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[Pan-users] Re: posting server according to the group one?


From: Matej Cepl
Subject: [Pan-users] Re: posting server according to the group one?
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 08:53:06 +0000 (UTC)
User-agent: Pan/0.133 (House of Butterflies)

Duncan, Tue, 26 May 2009 02:27:24 +0000:
> For text-only, /possibly/ but it'd surprise me.

You're probably right.

>> a) identity for posting ... yes, of course, I understand need for
>> double identity, but then it should be really identity,
> 
> Real identity?  You lost me at that point.

Identity meaning a collection of your name, email address, signature, 
maybe something else.

>> 3) usenet with (currently, but it may change anytime)
>> news.felk.cvut.cz, which is for "the real Usenet" (whatever it is).
> 
> I don't really like the analogy but OK...

Why?

>> The point is that separate network doesn't have to correspond to the
>> real piece of hardware and in the ideal case you could change servers
>> without disrupting organization of your messages.
> 
> Except that normally, each server has its own per-group sequence
> numbering, even if they carry the same groups.

I am not saying that it is EASY to do transfer among different newsgroup 
servers, just that my proposal would make it possible at all.

> Well, just have one profile, copied three times, with a different server
> selected for each.  That's not too difficult, particularly if you're
> using an external sig (file or executable generator) and don't have
> custom headers.

yes, of course, there is this kludge as a workaround, but I have general 
distaste for copying information to different places ... I am not saying 
it is not possible to survive without this change I propose, just that it 
shows ugliness of the original design. Moreover, with my suggestion you 
can do automatic assignement of news network to particular newsgroup, so 
that pan could switch among different networks automagically.

> But the point is, if a group shows up on more than one server/network,
> as must be assumed for "real" USENET, then no matter how you handled it,

No, a group could be only on one network (in your case, the "Real 
USENET"), handling of different servers is separate from my point.

> you'd still have the problem, that being that the posting server would
> need selected per group as Murphy's law is plain enough that the default
> one would NOT be the preferred one. =:^(

My suggestions makes life better for people with a surreal USENET 
(grc.com, gmane.org, and many others) and doesn't make life more 
difficult for people with The Only True And Real USENET. What's not to 
like?

Matěj





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