Re: [Pan-users] Pan logging

[Dave]

On Wednesday 20 January 2016 19:25:48 Duncan wrote:
> Dave posted on Wed, 20 Jan 2016 11:33:41 +0000 as excerpted:
> 
> > Is there any way to tell or see "live" which server Pan is pulling from?
> > 
> > I have a "free" ISP news server and a pay server from which I buy blocks
> > of data as backup/fills and it might be nice to see how much is coming
> > from the pay server.
> 
> Do you have your fill server set as "fallback" in the servers 
> configuration?  (If you have more than two servers, you can actually set 
> more than the primary/fallback by editing servers.xml directly, and pan 
> will behave accordingly, but the simplified GUI just has the two 
> levels.)  That's the main thing.

Yup, ISP server set as primary, pay server set as fallback.  The ISP server
used to be excellent (for up to about 10-14 days worth of retention anyway),
but was missing one or two groups I use.  Recently they dropped some high
traffic groups and rumour is that they may be dropping usenet completely so
sadly this might not be a problem anyway in a few months.

> With servers at the same level, servers that have significantly less 
> messages will naturally tend to move ahead faster as they'll skip 
> messages they don't have, which will mean that you just normally get the 
> messages from them that they have available, because their fetch process 
> will get to them first, while the fill server is stuck back a ways 
> because it has more messages to pull.
> 
> But server rank makes that explicit, and won't pull from a fallback 
> server until all primary servers are checked for the message.  So the 
> first thing to do if you want to be sure to get all you can from your 
> primary server and save the bandwidth on the fallback, is set them as 
> such in the server configuration.
> 
> Beyond that, it has been awhile since I did binaries on multi-server (or 
> for that matter, at all, tho I do have a 1000 GB block account that I use 
> occasionally), but from looking just now on the single-server text I'm 
> doing, the log doesn't contain server information, only actions.
> 
> But the bandwidth indicator to the left in the status bar, should show 
> per-server activity if you hover over it.

As a long term Pan user of many years, I never noticed that.  I think that'll
do initially at least to keep an eye on things.  Thanks!

> Beyond that, I seem to 
> remember a couple other ways it was tracked, but I've not done multi-
> server or binaries in long enough I don't remember the details, and what 
> I do remember, I can't be sure whether it's current pan, or the old C-
> based pan from about a decade ago, that worked quite differently in terms 
> of multi-server.
> 
> Hopefully someone who does multi-server and/or binaries a bit more 
> regularly will followup with more detail.