Re: [Pan-users] Losing headers after clicking off of a group?

[Frisky Weasel]

thank you Heinz for the reply and sorry for the delayed response - 

i checked my preferences, but under Preferences > Behavior > Group

there was only one item checked - "Get new headers when entering group"

Earlier I had said that I think when i click away from a populated group, and 
then click back on that group again, and i lose my previously retrieved 
headers, that Pan would then retrieve only the few new headers that had been 
posted since that last time I had loaded headers for that group. I'm not so 
sure that's correct. After most of my headers disappeared, i checked the date 
stamp on the remaining few and they were not newly-posted articles.....It seems 
that they are just a few of the most recent. So instead it seems the actual 
behavior is that when i come back to/revisit a previously loaded group, Pan is 
just deleting all but a few of the articles (it's not a set-in-stone 
number....sometimes it leaves 2 headers remaining...sometimes 8....no pattern 
to it).

I tried a simple test to narrow down the behavior, but not having much luck i'm 
afraid:

I right-clicked and did a "subscribe" on the 1st 2 groups in my list, and then 
scrolled down and did the same for a linux iso binaries group, so im now 
subscribed to these 3 groups:
0
0.akita-inu
alt.binaries.linux.iso

I clicked on each one, and when the header retrieval box popped up, i selected 
the same option for each one of them...."get the latest N headers", and i set 
the number to ten-thousand (10000). I then clicked execute, Pan successfully 
retrieved some headers, and I then moved to the next group and did the same 
process.........when finished, my mouse focus was resting on the 
"alt.binaries.linux.iso" group, and my "subscribed groups" section now looked 
like this:

0 (180)
0.akita-inu (1785)
alt.binaries.linux.iso (131)

i took my mouse and clicked back onto the first group in the list, the "0" 
group....as soon as i did, the headers disappeared from the right hand side, 
and on the left-hand listing, the "0" group under subscribed groups section 
went from looking like this: 0 (180) to this: 0 - it was also bold before, and 
it switched from bold to normal 

i then clicked once on the next subscribed group in my list. In this case, it 
remained bold, but it changed from this: 0.akita-inu (1785) to this 0.akita-inu 
(2) 

i then clicked on the 3rd subscribed group in my list. In this case it behaved 
EXACTLY like i wanted lol....After clicking on it, it continued to remain bold, 
and displayed this: alt.binaries.linux.iso (131) .... all of the individual 
headers on the right-hand side remained...none were lost...this is exactly the 
behavior i had expected for all of my groups/headers from the very start

I then proceeded to just click around randomly in the app, and randomly 
returning and clicking on the alt.binaries.linux.iso group to see if it would 
lose its headers. It never did.

I completely shut down Pan entirely, and re-launched it. alt.binaries.linux.iso 
was still bold and still had all its headers.

I should mention that the above testing was all done on a different machine 
than my first post. First box was Ubuntu 18.04 running 0.144. This is a linux 
mint 18.3 box running the latest version of Pan from the PPA (ver 0.145). I 
wanted to see if the behavior on my Mint machine would match what i saw with my 
Ubuntu 18.04 install...it seems that it does. 

In any case, just wanted to pass this test along in case anyone wanted to see 
if they could replicate the behavior. I'm really not sure if this is a bug, by 
design, or if there's just something I'm missing and maybe i have a setting 
"off" somewhere. 

I didn't have much luck finding other nice / clean GUI usenet clients for 
linux, so i really really wanted Pan to work.....and it seems like it does for 
most folks....not sure what's happening in my case...P.E.B.K.A.C. maybe ; ) 

in any case thanks again for trying to help me - much appreciated!






On Friday, July 20, 2018, 12:48:16 AM CDT, Heinz Mezera <address@hidden> wrote: 

Check your settings. I have a German UI here and try to translate.

Am Freitag, den 20.07.2018, 04:39 +0000 schrieb Frisky Weasel:
> hi guys - loving Pan so far, but having one small problem. This may 

> be by design, but I can't quite make sense of it. 
> <...>
> successfully......BUT...when i then click back on group "a.b.1", my
> 30,000 headers just seem to  completely disappear and it looks like
> it then retrieves the new headers that came in since the last time
> was on that group

Behavior --> Groups --> you might have "Mark articles read when leaving
the group" checked.


> i dont want that - i want it to keep all of my retrieved headers no
> matter where else i go in the app, until i explicitly remove them...
> 
> any ideas what i might be missing? im thinking this may be a feature
> and not a bug, but i cant make sense of why it would do that
> 
> thanks for any help/tips


Heinz

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