Re: [Phpgroupware-developers] GNU/Linux on the phpGW bug tracker

[Dave Hall]

Chris Weiss <address@hidden> wrote:
tracker

> then it seems I didn't understand, now I do.  And now I also see 
> that some
> poeple have way to much free time to invent just things to worry 
> about.
> I guess to be politicaly correct I would rather see the brand 
> names, but if it
> stops yet another flame war "GNU/Linux -whatever" it is.
> 

It was a 2min fix - no big deal.  It keeps people happy so I did it.  No
one on #phpgroupware had an issue with it.

> 
> Mathieu Roy (address@hidden) wrote:
> >
> > "Chris Weiss" <address@hidden> said:
> >
> > > I have a small problem with this change .... only Debain is 
> actually> > GNU/Linux, Mandrake is close, and the rest are 
> certainly not GNU.  "GNU/Linux"
> > > and "Linux" are not exactly the same thing, adding GNU to it 
> means that it's
> > > not just GPL compatable but is strictly following the rules of 
> the GNU,
> > > correct?
> >
> > Linux is no way means that a distribution is GPL-compatible. 
> Naming a
> > distribution Linux would just means that the kernel linux is shipped
> > with it.
> >
> > GNU/Linux does not means either that the distribution is
> > GPL-compatible, neither does it means that the distribution follows
> > GNU policy.
> >
> > GNU/Linux justs means that the distribution ship a system called GNU
> > along with the kernel called Linux.
> >
> > There is no specific name that I know to describe a distribution
> > wholy GPL-compatible. And I'm not sure that such distribution
> > exists. Most of them ship Apache, for instance - and hopefully they
> > do; but apache license is not GPL-compabible.
> >
> > And a project that strictly follows the GNU policy would be a GNU
> > package.
> >
> >
> > > I think the truely proper change would be to:
> > > Debian GNU/Linux
> > > Mandrake Linux
> > > Redhat/Fedora
> > > SuSE
> > > Other Linux
> > >
> > > I understand the want to put linux in front as it groups them, 
> but if that is
> > > somehow against GNU policy (and I say wtf on that) then 
> putting GNU/Linux on
> > > non-GNU distros should also be against the GNU policy.
> >
> > What are non-GNU distros? All the distributions you mention are
> > distributions of the GNU system along with the kernel linux.
> >
> > The only difference is the fact that the brand name of most of them
> > just mention "Linux", not GNU. Which is a problem according to GNU
> >
> > <" target="l">http://www.gnu.org/gnu/why-gnu-linux.html>
> >
> > But none of these brands starts with the word "linux" anyway.
> >
> > When I seen the page, it was something like:
> >      Linux - Debian
> >      Linux - Mandrake
> > (not brand names).
> >
> > What would be more helpful for GNU, according to GNU itself, 
> would be
> > something like
> >      GNU/Linux - Debian
> >      GNU/Linux - Mandrake
> > which still disregard the brand name.
> >
> > It is a very trivial change, however numerous members of the GNU
> > project thinks that using that name helps it.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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