[phpGroupWare-developers] Sad thing

[Klaus Lepschi]

First things first:
I'm aware of phpgroupware for quite some time now, and I cannot emphasize 
enough how much I appreciate and honor the hard work and the efforts of the 
project crew that has gone into phpGroupWare so far.

Still, what is going on with that project lately?

"You can grab the new version from our download section."
Yet the "download section" (http://download.phpgroupware.org/) is down, and 
only yields a "Server not found"-page.

Mirrors:
Dead, apart from Japan and sourceforge.

Demos:
In search for a suitable groupware-solution for a client of ours, I came across 
the phpGroupWare-site again. As per today, there is effectively no demo site 
online anymore.

Docs:
When you try to browse the doc-section, there is nothing but void.

Apps:
see "Docs"

Support:
see above .. To be fair: there is a link to "phpgroupware.info", a site that 
describes how phpGroupWare _should_ operate.

I have done some 10 installs on the weekend, and as per usual this goes 
breezingly easy. But what comes then is simply a shame. "Projects" cannot be 
created as there are no "activities", and when you try to read up how you 
create "activities", guess what application comes without docs?

I don't want to bash anybody, and once again, being a programmer for decades 
myself, I truly honor all the work, but even if it's OpenSource, and "free to 
take", shouldn't there be at least _some_ quality-criteria be met?

1: Archive content
It's not really the sweetest thing to add some 850 CVS-folders to the 
distributed version of your system.

2: Applications
Why pack apps like "img" with the standard-version, and yet inform the user 
that these apps are outdated (btw. the suggested "FUNKWERK" does maybe 
anything, but not install via the "Setup"-module)

3: quality of code
What good is the respectable approach of templates when in key-apps like the 
calendar functions like "css()" are being called to write style-information?

Anyway, I understand that in a large project like phpGroupWare things can get 
hairy sometimes, but the current status of website , code and the system in 
general indicates that something's beyond being hairy, and pretty much going 
awry already.

I really hope the project team can inject some stringent quality aspects again 
before more ppl divert to e-groupware.

Sincerely 

.

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