The big reason is for output for complex subheadings and big banner reports.
This is what everyone in my industry uses SPSS for. Actually, it is the only
thing that they use it for. In terms of presentation I know it is ugly as all
hell but there really isn't a substitute for the CTABLES functionality out
there especially when it comes to big survey banner reports that involve
subcategory reporting. For multiple response questions you really can't beat
the MRSETS CTABLES combination.
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From: "Frans Houweling" <address@hidden>
To: "pspp-users" <address@hidden>
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 10:47:58 AM
Subject: Re: Multi response sets in PSPP
Hi all,
I am not one of the - bless them - developers. I am a old TABLES
user. Lately (20 years or so) the output is not considered "presentation
quality" anymore. So I find myself exporting the TABLES output in order
to get it into Microsoft Office stuff, where AGGREGATE + SAVE TRANSLATE
would in fact be a shorter track.
So my question is: why do you consider CTABLES such a useful feature? I
don't want to fuel any argument, just understand if workarounds exist or
could be more easily developed.
Regards
frans
On 06/11/2015 19:00, Robert Lutener wrote:
There is no interest from the developers to do this. A while back someone even
offered to put down $500 of their own money and others volunteered a few
hundred each on top to bring this about but it was stated that there is no
interest from the developers to implement this functionality. Which is kind of
weird because CTABLES is the key reason why the Canadian government uses SPSS
at CRA and a few other departments. For their stats stuff they typically use R
or Stata.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthias Faeth" <address@hidden>
To: "robertl" <address@hidden>
Cc: "ftr" <address@hidden>, "pspp-users" <address@hidden>
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 9:32:53 AM
Subject: Re: Multi response sets in PSPP
I strongly support Robert's view. However, the maintainers seem to be more
interested in statistics than plain old tabulation. Has anyone an idea how
to implement even a stripped down version of CTABLES?
Matthias Fäth
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2015-11-06 18:06 GMT+01:00 Robert Lutener <address@hidden>:
CTABLES is probably the most valuable feature of SPSS and is used by the
vast majority of people that buy the SPSS license. It is a real shame that
PSPP doesn't have CTABLES as this would be a major factor in more
widespread use of this open source solution.
----- Original Message -----
From: "ftr" <address@hidden>
To: "pspp-users" <address@hidden>
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 5:56:23 AM
Subject: Re: Multi response sets in PSPP
On 06/11/2015 11:24, Michał Dubrawski wrote:
Hi,
If the information here is up to date then we have MRSETS command
implemented in PSPP
http://www.gnu.org/software/pspp/manual/pspp.html#MRSETS
Is there any way to display these MRSETS in the PSPP output - frequences,
percentages or in corss tabs? I'm only using thses MRSETS in SPSS in
CTables. I am aware that CTables are not implemented in PSPP and since it
is very complicated won't rather be implemented in the nearest future.
If it is not possible to display multi response, maybe implementation of
MULT RESPONSE command would be a solution? Is it possoble to implement it?
It is has an option to display frequences, percentages and even cross
tabulation. I think that it would be very useful for users, what do you
think?
Thanks again to all the developers and people involved with PSPP project
for all your work.
kind regards,
Michał Dubrawski
Hi Michal,
survey analyst NEED methods to study multiple-response variables. So I
strongly support the idea to implement a Mult Response command.
The help text ends with this cryptic sentence:
Otherwise, multiple response sets are currently used only by third party
software.
Dear maintainers, would you please be so kind to explain which third party
software is meant ?
TIA
-ftr
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