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Re: [Qemu-block] [PATCH v6 03/22] blockdev: Add and parse "lock-mode" op

From: Max Reitz
Subject: Re: [Qemu-block] [PATCH v6 03/22] blockdev: Add and parse "lock-mode" option for image locking
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 15:05:23 +0200
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On 08.07.2016 11:50, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> Am 08.07.2016 um 04:56 hat Fam Zheng geschrieben:
>> On Tue, 07/05 15:37, Kevin Wolf wrote:
>>> Am 17.06.2016 um 11:23 hat Kevin Wolf geschrieben:
>>>> Am 03.06.2016 um 10:48 hat Fam Zheng geschrieben:
>>>>> Respect the locking mode from CLI or QMP, and set the open flags
>>>>> accordingly.
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Fam Zheng <address@hidden>
>>>>> Reviewed-by: Max Reitz <address@hidden>
>>>> This is the wrong level to implement the feature. You would only be able
>>>> to configure the locking on the top level image this way (because what
>>>> we're doing here is BB, not BDS configuration). If you want to allow
>>>> configuration per node, you need to put the options into
>>>> bdrv_runtime_opts and interpret them in bdrv_open_common().
>>>> Otherwise we would have to specify in the blockdev-add documentation
>>>> that this works only on the top level, but I don't see a reason for
>>>> such a restriction.
>>> And actually, after some more thinking about block device configuration,
>>> I'm not sure any more whether letting the user configure this on the
>>> node level, at least as the primary interface.
>>> A node usually knows by itself what locking mode it needs to request
>>> from its children, depending on the locking mode that the parent node
>>> requested for it. It could be passing down the locking mode (raw
>>> format), it could require a stricter locking mode (non-raw formats never
>>> work with r/w sharing) or it could even be less strict (backing files
>>> are normally ro/ and can therefore be shared, even if the guest can't
>>> share its image).
>>> The real origin of the locking requirement is the top level. So maybe
>>> the right interface for guest devices is adding a qdev option that tells
>>> whether the guest can share the image. For NBD servers, we'd add a QMP
>> I think most block devices are not designed to share the data, so in general
>> it's hard to imagine this as a device property.
> Well, it's really a guest OS (or even guest application) property, but
> obviously that doesn't exist. And the device is the qemu component that
> is the closest to the guest. We generally have options about behaviour
> that the guest expects at the device level.

Can the guest device really make a qualified decision here? If you're
using raw as the image format, sharing may be fine, if you're using
qcow2, it most likely is not.

I think whether to lock a BDS chain is a host-side property and has not
a lot to do with the guest, thus it should be a BDS property. I can
imagine that a guest may say that sharing should be disallowed under all
circumstances, but a guest is never able to decide to allow sharing.


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