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Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V8 08/14] Introduce file lock for the block laye

From: Michael S. Tsirkin
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V8 08/14] Introduce file lock for the block layer
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 18:16:49 +0300
User-agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15)

On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 11:06:42AM -0400, Stefan Berger wrote:
> On 09/07/2011 10:35 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 10:25:08AM -0400, Stefan Berger wrote:
> >>On 09/07/2011 10:10 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >>>On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 09:56:52AM -0400, Stefan Berger wrote:
> >>>>On 09/07/2011 09:16 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >>>>>On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 09:06:05AM -0400, Stefan Berger wrote:
> >>>>>>>>First: There are two ways to encrypt the data.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>One comes with the QCoW2 type of image and it comes for free. Set
> >>>>>>>>the encryption flag when creating the QCoW2 file and one has to
> >>>>>>>>provide a key to access the QCoW2. I found this mode problematic for
> >>>>>>>>users since it required me to go through the monitor every time I
> >>>>>>>>started the VM. Besides that the key is provided so late that all
> >>>>>>>>devices are already initialized and if the wrong key was provided
> >>>>>>>>the only thing the TPM can do is to go into shutdown mode since
> >>>>>>>>there is state on the QCoW2 but it cannot be decrypted. This also
> >>>>>>>>became problematic when doing migrations with libvirt for example
> >>>>>>>>and one was to have a wrong key/password installed on the target
> >>>>>>>>side -- graceful termination of the migration is impossible.
> >>>>>OK let's go back to this for a moment. Add a load
> >>>>>callback, access file there. On failure, return
> >>>>>an error. migration fails gracefully, and
> >>>>>management can retry, or migrate to another node,
> >>>>>or whatever.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>What's the problem exactly?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>The switch-over from source to destination already happened when the
> >>>>key is finally passed and you just won't be able to access the QCoW2
> >>>>in case the key was wrong.
> >>>This is exactly what happens with any kind of othe rmigration errror.
> >>>So fail migration, and source can get restarted if necessary.
> >>>
> >>I guess I wanted to improve on this and catch user errors.
> >>If we let migration fail then all you can do is try to terminate the
> >>VM on the destination and cold-start on the source.
> >No, normally if migration fails VM is not started on destination,
> >and it can just continue on source.
> >
> When I had tried this in conjunction with encrypted QCoW2 the
> switch-over already had happened and the source had died.

Giving continue command should bring it back.

> So a wrong key on the destination was fatal.

So it's a bug in the code then?

> >>>>Similar problems occur when you start a
> >>>>VM with an encrypted QCoW2 image. The monitor will prompt you for
> >>>>the password and then you start the VM and if the password was wrong
> >>>>the OS just won't be able to access the image.
> >>>>
> >>>>    Stefan
> >>>Why can't you verify the password?
> >>>
> >>I do verify the key/password in the TPM driver. If the driver cannot
> >>make sense of the contents of the QCoW2 due to wrong key I simply
> >>put the driver into failure mode. That's all I can do with encrypted
> >>QCoW2.
> >You can return error from init script which will make qemu exit.
> >
> I can return an error code when the front- and backend interfaces
> are initialized, but that happens really early and the encyrption
> key entered through the monitor is not available at this point.
> I also don't get a notification about when the key was entered. In
> case of QCoW2 encryption (and migration) I delay initialization
> until very late, basically when the VM accesses the tpm tis hardware
> emulation layer again (needs to be done this way I think to support
> block migration where I cannot even access the block device early on
> at all).

So it in the loadvm callback. This happens when guest is
stopped on source, so no need for locks.
On failure you return an error and migration fails
before destination is started. You can

> Only then I find out that the key was wrong. I guess any
> other handling would require blockdev.c's invocation of
> monitor_read_bdrv_key_start() to be 'somehow' extended and ... do
> what ? loop until the correct password was entered?

Return an error so vm start fails?

>    Stefan
> >>In case of a QCoW2 encrypted VM image it's different. There I guess
> >>the intelligence of what is good and bad data is only inside the OS.
> >>
> >>    Stefan

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