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Re: [Qemu-devel] CoW image commit+shrink(= make_empty) support

From: Jeff Cody
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] CoW image commit+shrink(= make_empty) support
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 10:29:02 -0400
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On 06/14/2012 10:23 AM, Zhi Hui Li wrote:
> On 2012年06月11日 23:37, Jeff Cody wrote:
>> On 06/11/2012 10:24 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Kevin Wolf<address@hidden>  wrote:
>>>> Am 11.06.2012 14:09, schrieb Stefan Hajnoczi:
>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Jeff Cody<address@hidden>  wrote:
>>>>>> On 06/08/2012 12:11 PM, Kevin Wolf wrote:
>>>>>>> Am 08.06.2012 16:32, schrieb Jeff Cody:
>>>>>>>> On 06/08/2012 09:53 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Jeff Cody<address@hidden>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 06/08/2012 08:42 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Let's figure out how to specify block-commit so we're all happy, 
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> way we can avoid duplicating work.  Any comments on my notes above?
>>>>>>>>>> I think we are almost completely on the same page - devil is in the
>>>>>>>>>> details, of course (for instance, on how to convert the destination 
>>>>>>>>>> base
>>>>>>>>>> from r/o to r/w).
>>>>>>>>> Great.  The atomic r/o ->  r/w transition and the commit coroutine can
>>>>>>>>> be implemented on in parallel.  Are you happy to implement the atomic
>>>>>>>>> r/o ->  r/w transition since you wrote bdrv_append()?  Then Zhi Hui 
>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>> assume that part already works and focus on implementing the commit
>>>>>>>>> coroutine in the meantime.  I'm just suggesting a way to split up the
>>>>>>>>> work, please let me know if you think this is good.
>>>>>>>> I am happy to do it that way.  I'll shift my focus to the atomic image
>>>>>>>> reopen in r/w mode.  I'll go ahead and post my diagrams and other info
>>>>>>>> for block-commit on the wiki, because I don't think it conflicts with 
>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>> discussed above (although I will modify my diagrams to not show commit
>>>>>>>> from the top-level image).  Of course, feel free to change it as
>>>>>>>> necessary.
>>>>>>> I may have mentioned it before, but just in case: I think Supriya's
>>>>>>> bdrv_reopen() patches are a good starting point. I don't know why they
>>>>>>> were never completed, but I think we all agreed on the general design,
>>>>>>> so it should be possible to pick that up.
>>>>>>> Though if you have already started with your own work on it, Jeff, I
>>>>>>> expect that it won't be much different because it's basically the same
>>>>>>> transactional approach that you know and that we already used for group
>>>>>>> snapshots.
>>>>>> I will definitely use parts of Supriya's as it makes sense - what I
>>>>>> started work on is similar to bdrv_append() and the current transaction
>>>>>> approach, so there will be plenty in common to reuse, even with some
>>>>>> differences.
>>>>> I have CCed Supriya who has been working on the reopen patch series.
>>>>> She is close to posting a new version.
>>>> It's just a bit disappointing that it takes several months between each
>>>> two versions of the patch series. We'd like to have this in qemu 1.2,
>>>> not only in qemu 1.14.
>>>> I can understand if someone can't find the time, but then allow at least
>>>> someone else to pick it up.
>>> Hey, don't shoot the messenger :).  I just wanted add Supriya to CC so
>>> she can join the discussion and see how much overlap there is with
>>> what she's doing.  We all contribute to QEMU from different angles and
>>> with different priorities.  If there is a time critical dependency on
>>> the reopen code then discuss it here and the result will be that
>>> someone officially drives the feature on.
>> I am more than happy to take the previous reopen() patches, and drive
>> those forward, and also do whatever else is needed for live block
>> commit.
>> It sounds like Zhi Hui is working on live block commit patches, and
>> Supriya is working on the bdrv_reopen() portion - I don't want to
>> duplicate any effort, but if there is anything I can do to help with
>> either of those areas, just let me know.
>> Thanks,
>> Jeff
> Jeff please go ahead with block-commit, I
> am finishing up my fdc async conversion patch series first.  I will
> reply when I'm ready to work on block-commit.
> Thank you very much!

Hi Zhi,

I will do that.  Thanks!


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