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Re: [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup
From: |
Gleb Natapov |
Subject: |
Re: [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup |
Date: |
Thu, 13 Sep 2012 19:06:13 +0300 |
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:56:56AM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Gleb Natapov <address@hidden> writes:
>
> > On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 09:35:18AM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> >> Gleb Natapov <address@hidden> writes:
> >>
> >> > On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 09:06:29AM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> >> >> "Daniel P. Berrange" <address@hidden> writes:
> >> >>
> >> >> I think it's better for QEMU to talk to qemu-ga. We can tell when a
> >> >> large
> >> >> period of time has passed in QEMU because we'll accumulate a large
> >> >> number of missed ticks.
> >> >>
> >> > With RTC configured to use vm clock we will not.
> >>
> >> Not for host suspend. For stop and live migration, we stop vm_clock.
> >> But QEMU isn't aware of host suspend so vm_clock cannot be stopped.
> >>
> > Hmm, true. What about hooking into suspend and doing vmstop during
> > suspend.
>
> Is suspend the only foreseeable way for this problem to happen? I don't
> think it is which is what concerns me about any approach that relies on
> "hooking suspend".
>
With RTC using real time clock setting host time far ahead of what is it
will trigger same behaviour I think.
> Also, I don't think there is a generic way to "hook suspend".
>
> >> >> This could happen because of stop, host suspend, live migration to a
> >> >> file, etc.
> >> >>
> >> >> It's much easier for us to call into qemu-ga to do the time correction
> >> >> whenever this event occurs than to try and have libvirt figure out when
> >> >> it's necessary.
> >> > And if guest does not have qemu-ga what is better inject interrupts like
> >> > crazy for next 2 minutes or leave guest with incorrect time?
> >>
> >> Yes, at least that's fixable by the end-user. QEMU consuming 100% CPU
> >> for a prolonged period of time isn't fixable.
> >>
> > You mean yes to "leave guest with incorrect time"? QEMU will still
> > consume 100% of cpu for some time calling qemu_timer callback millions
> > times. timedrift code is not the right level to fix that.
>
> Not if we put a cap on how many interrupts we'll try to catch up.
>
Interrupts ctachup happens at another level. If guest was stopped for
24 hours while RTC was configured to 1kHz qemu_timer will fire callback
88473600 times. Each invocation will try to inject interrupt and fail
incrementing coalesced_irq instead. You can cap coalesced_irq but
callback will still fire 88473600 times.
> As I mentioned previously, if we acrue more than X number of missed
> ticks, we should simply declare bankruptcy and reset the counter.
>
> When that occurs, *if* qemu-ga is present, we should ask qemu-ga to
> reset the guest's clock based on reading the hardware clock via a
> 'guest-resync-time' command.
>
> If it isn't, time will be off. Hopefully the guest is running NTP and
> can correct itself. Otherwise, at least the admin can manually fix the
> time.
>
> Regards,
>
> Anthony Liguori
>
> >
> > --
> > Gleb.
--
Gleb.
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup, (continued)
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup, Avi Kivity, 2012/09/13
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup, Eric Blake, 2012/09/13
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup, Avi Kivity, 2012/09/13
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup, Anthony Liguori, 2012/09/13
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup, Avi Kivity, 2012/09/13
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup, Anthony Liguori, 2012/09/13
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup, Anthony Liguori, 2012/09/13
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup, Gleb Natapov, 2012/09/13
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup, Avi Kivity, 2012/09/13
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup, Anthony Liguori, 2012/09/13
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup,
Gleb Natapov <=
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup, Anthony Liguori, 2012/09/13
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup, Gleb Natapov, 2012/09/13
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup, Anthony Liguori, 2012/09/13
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup, Avi Kivity, 2012/09/13
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup, Gleb Natapov, 2012/09/13
Re: [Qemu-devel] Rethinking missed tick catchup, Stefan Weil, 2012/09/12