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Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 27/42] ivshmem: Receive shared memory synchro

From: Marc-André Lureau
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 27/42] ivshmem: Receive shared memory synchronously in realize()
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 13:45:51 +0100

On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 8:25 PM, Markus Armbruster <address@hidden> wrote:
> When configured for interrupts (property "chardev" given), we receive
> the shared memory from an ivshmem server.  We do so asynchronously
> after realize() completes, by setting up callbacks with
> qemu_chr_add_handlers().
> Keeping server I/O out of realize() that way avoids delays due to a
> slow server.  This is probably relevant only for hot plug.
> However, this funny "no shared memory, yet" state of the device also
> causes a raft of issues that are hard or impossible to work around:
> * The guest is exposed to this state: when we enter and leave it its
>   shared memory contents is apruptly replaced, and device register
>   IVPosition changes.
>   This is a known issue.  We document that guests should not access
>   the shared memory after device initialization until the IVPosition
>   register becomes non-negative.
>   For cold plug, the funny state is unlikely to be visible in
>   practice, because we normally receive the shared memory long before
>   the guest gets around to mess with the device.
>   For hot plug, the timing is tighter, but the relative slowness of
>   PCI device configuration has a good chance to hide the funny state.
>   In either case, guests complying with the documented procedure are
>   safe.
> * Migration becomes racy.
>   If migration completes before the shared memory setup completes on
>   the source, shared memory contents is silently lost.  Fortunately,
>   migration is rather unlikely to win this race.
>   If the shared memory's ramblock arrives at the destination before
>   shared memory setup completes, migration fails.
>   There is no known way for a management application to wait for
>   shared memory setup to complete.
>   All you can do is retry failed migration.  You can improve your
>   chances by leaving more time between running the destination QEMU
>   and the migrate command.
>   To mitigate silent memory loss, you need to ensure the server
>   initializes shared memory exactly the same on source and
>   destination.
>   These issues are entirely undocumented so far.
> I'd expect the server to be almost always fast enough to hide these
> issues.  But then rare catastrophic races are in a way the worst kind.
> This is way more trouble than I'm willing to take from any device.
> Kill the funny state by receiving shared memory synchronously in
> realize().  If your hot plug hangs, go kill your ivshmem server.
> For easier review, this commit only makes the receive synchronous, it
> doesn't add the necessary error propagation.  Without that, the funny
> state persists.  The next commit will do that, and kill it off for
> real.
> Signed-off-by: Markus Armbruster <address@hidden>
> ---

Reviewed-by: Marc-André Lureau <address@hidden>

Marc-André Lureau

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