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Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.9 4/5] rbd: Peel off redundant RbdAuthMeth

From: Markus Armbruster
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.9 4/5] rbd: Peel off redundant RbdAuthMethod wrapper struct
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 07:58:51 +0200
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Eric Blake <address@hidden> writes:

> On 03/24/2017 09:10 AM, Jeff Cody wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 08:49:20AM -0500, Eric Blake wrote:
>>> On 03/24/2017 07:42 AM, Jeff Cody wrote:
>>>> Agree.  My preference is to leave it as an array of methods, so long as 
>>>> that
>>>> is tenable to libvirt.
>>> The -drive syntax should remain unchanged (that's an absolute must for
>>> libvirt).  But the QMP syntax being an array of methods sounds best to
>>> me, and I think password-secret should be part of the array.  So my vote
>>> would be for:
>>> { "driver": "rbd", "image": "foo",
>>>   "auth": [ { "type": "cephx", "password-secret": "sec0" },
>>>             { "type": "none" } ],
>>>   "pool": "bar" }
>>> It makes mapping -drive arguments into QMP form a bit trickier, but the
>>> QMP form is then easily extensible if we add another auth method down
>>> the road.
>> In that case, what about adding user as well, and not just password-secret?
> Makes sense - anything that is associated solely with cephx should
> belong to the same flat-union branch for cephx, rather than at the top
> level.

I've thought about this some more and have come to the conclusion that
this design is clumsy and overly complex.  Moreover, I suspect our
testing has been poor.  Let me explain.

= Overview =

What we're trying to configure is authentication methods the client is
to offer to the server.

This is not a list, it's a set: the order doesn't matter, and multiple
entries of the same type make no sense.  We could reject multiple
entries, or let the last one win silently, but this is just unnecessary

Type "cephx" uses a user name and a key.

Type "none" uses neither (it could theoretically use the user name, but
I've been assured it doesn't).

The user name defaults to "admin".

The key defaults to the user name's entry in a keyring.  There is a
configurable list of key ring files, with a default.  The default
commonly includes /etc/ceph/client.keyring.

= Librados configuration =

Librados takes these configuration bits as follows:

* The user name is to be passed to rados_create().  NULL means default
  to "admin".

* The key may be passed to rados_conf_set() with key "key" (value is the
  key) or "keyfile" (value is name of the file containing the key).
  Documentation discourages use of "key".

* The list of keyrings may passed to rados_conf_set() with key
  "keyring" and a value listing file names separated by ','.  At least
  according to the documentation; the source looks like any non-empty
  sequence of [;,= \t]* serves as separator.

* The offered authentication methods may be passed to rados_conf_set()
  with key "auth_supported" (deprecated) or "auth_client_required", and
  a value listing methods separated by "," (or maybe [;,= \t]*, see
  above).  The methods are "cephx" and "none".  Default is "cephx,none".

= Command line -drive =

With -drive file=rbd:pool/address@hidden:key=value...], the
key=value... part lets you specify arbitrary rados_conf_set() settings,
except pseudo-key "id" is mapped to the user name instead, and
pseudo-key "conf" names a rados configuration file.  This overloading of
rados_conf_set() keys and our own pseudo-keys isn't pretty, but it's a
done deal.  The full set of authentication configuration discussed above
is available as keys "id", "key", "keyfile", "keyring", "auth_supported"
and "auth_client_required".  Also via "conf", of course.

These -drive rbd:...:key=value settings are also available in -drive
QemuOpts syntax -drive driver=rbd,key=value:

* Pseudo-key "id" is "user" in QemuOpts.

* Pseudo-key "conf" is "conf" in QemuOpts, too

* Any other keys together become "keyvalue-pairs" in QemuOpts, with
  the same key=value:... syntax.

Additionally, QemuOpts-only "password-secret" lets you set
rados_conf_set() key "key" to a value obtained from the QCryptoSecret

Note that @password-secret is a misnomer: this is *not* a password, it's
a *key*.  Calling it a password is confusing, and makes it harder to
mentally connect QMP and Ceph configuration.

The settings in file=rbd:... override the ones in QemuOpts (that's how
->bdrv_parse_filename() works), which in turn override (I think)
settings from a config file.  Note that *any* key other than "id" and
"conf" in file=rbd:... completely overrides *all* keys in

Except "password-secret" works the other way: it overrides "key" set in
file=rbd:... or "keyvalue-pairs".

As so often with syntactic sugar, once you actually explain how it
works, you realize what a bloody mess it is.

It's not quite clear whether "keyvalue-pairs" is really meant for the
user, or just for internal use to implement file=rbd:...  I posted a
patch to hide it from the user.

= QMP blockdev-add and command line -blockdev =

The current QAPI/QMP schema lets you specify only a few settings
directly: pseudo-keys "id" and "conf" (optional members @user and
@conf), keys "key" and "auth_supported" (optional members
@password-secret and @auth_supported).  The only way to specify other
rados_conf_set() settings such as "keyfile" and "keyring" is via "conf".

Begs the question how the settings you can specify directly interact
with the config file.  I figure they override the config file.

Let's review how this could be used.

If you specify no optional members, you get the Ceph defaults described
above.  Good.

If you want to override the default user, there's @user.  Good.

If you want to override the keyring, you have to fall back to @conf.
Not ideal, but good enough for 2.9.  I guess most users will be fine
with the default keyrings.

If you want to override the authentication methods, you have several

* Use @conf and set auth_supported (deprecated) or auth_client_required
  in the config file

* Use @auth_supported like this:

      "auth_supported": [ { "auth": METHOD}, ... ]


If you want to override the key, you again have several options:

* Use @conf and set keyfile or key in the config file

* Use @password-secret to get it from the QCryptoSecret interface

  Did we actually test this?

= What to do for 2.9 =

I propose to

* drop both "auth_supported" and "password-secret" from the QAPI schema

* drop "password-secret" from QemuOpts

* hide "keyvalue-pairs" in QemuOpts

No existing usage is affected, since all these things are new in 2.9.

Users who need something else than the default keyring can continue to
configure alternate keys and keyrings with -drive, both directly with
file=rbd:...:key=value and with a config file.  With -blockdev /
blockdev_add, they need to use the config file.

We can consider improvements post 2.9.

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