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Re: [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] Re: Vhost-pci RFC2.0

From: Jan Kiszka
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] Re: Vhost-pci RFC2.0
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 11:31:39 +0200
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On 2017-04-19 11:09, Wei Wang wrote:
> On 04/19/2017 04:49 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>> On 2017-04-19 10:42, Wei Wang wrote:
>>> On 04/19/2017 03:35 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>>> On 2017-04-19 08:38, Wang, Wei W wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>    We made some design changes to the original vhost-pci design,
>>>>> and want
>>>>> to open
>>>>> a discussion about the latest design (labelled 2.0) and its extension
>>>>> (2.1).
>>>>> 2.0 design: One VM shares the entire memory of another VM
>>>>> 2.1 design: One VM uses an intermediate memory shared with another VM
>>>>> for
>>>>>                        packet transmission.
>>>>>    For the convenience of discussion, I have some pictures
>>>>> presented at
>>>>> this link:
>>>>> _https://github.com/wei-w-wang/vhost-pci-discussion/blob/master/vhost-pci-rfc2.0.pdf_
>>>>>    Fig. 1 shows the common driver frame that we want use to build
>>>>> the 2.0
>>>>> and 2.1
>>>>> design. A TX/RX engine consists of a local ring and an exotic ring.
>>>>> Local ring:
>>>>> 1) allocated by the driver itself;
>>>>> 2) registered with the device (i.e. virtio_add_queue())
>>>>> Exotic ring:
>>>>> 1) ring memory comes from the outside (of the driver), and exposed to
>>>>> the driver
>>>>>        via a BAR MMIO;
>>>> Small additional requirement: In order to make this usable with
>>>> Jailhouse as well, we need [also] a side-channel configuration for the
>>>> regions, i.e. likely via a PCI capability. There are too few BARs, and
>>>> they suggest relocatablity, which is not available under Jailhouse for
>>>> simplicity reasons (IOW, the shared regions are statically mapped by
>>>> the
>>>> hypervisor into the affected guest address spaces).
>>> What kind of configuration would you need for the regions?
>>> I think adding a PCI capability should be easy.
>> Basically address and size, see
>> https://github.com/siemens/jailhouse/blob/wip/ivshmem2/Documentation/ivshmem-v2-specification.md#vendor-specific-capability-id-09h
> Got it, thanks. That should be easy to add to 2.1.
>>>>> 2) does not have a registration in the device, so no ioeventfd/irqfd,
>>>>> configuration
>>>>> registers allocated in the device
>>>>>    Fig. 2 shows how the driver frame is used to build the 2.0 design.
>>>>> 1) Asymmetric: vhost-pci-net <-> virtio-net
>>>>> 2) VM1 shares the entire memory of VM2, and the exotic rings are the
>>>>> rings
>>>>>       from VM2.
>>>>> 3) Performance (in terms of copies between VMs):
>>>>>       TX: 0-copy (packets are put to VM2’s RX ring directly)
>>>>>       RX: 1-copy (the green arrow line in the VM1’s RX engine)
>>>>>    Fig. 3 shows how the driver frame is used to build the 2.1 design.
>>>>> 1) Symmetric: vhost-pci-net <-> vhost-pci-net
>>>> This is interesting!
>>>>> 2) Share an intermediate memory, allocated by VM1’s vhost-pci device,
>>>>> for data exchange, and the exotic rings are built on the shared memory
>>>>> 3) Performance:
>>>>>       TX: 1-copy
>>>>> RX: 1-copy
>>>> I'm not yet sure I to this right: there are two different MMIO regions
>>>> involved, right? One is used for VM1's RX / VM2's TX, and the other for
>>>> the reverse path? Would allow our requirement to have those regions
>>>> mapped with asymmetric permissions (RX read-only, TX read/write).
>>> The design presented here intends to use only one BAR to expose
>>> both TX and RX. The two VMs share an intermediate memory
>>> here, why couldn't we give the same permission to TX and RX?
>> For security and/or safety reasons: the TX side can then safely prepare
>> and sign a message in-place because the RX side cannot mess around with
>> it while not yet being signed (or check-summed). Saves one copy from a
>> secure place into the shared memory.
> If we allow guest1 to write to RX, what safety issue would it cause to
> guest2?

This way, guest1 could trick guest2, in a race condition, to sign a
modified message instead of the original one.

>>>>>    Fig. 4 shows the inter-VM notification path for 2.0 (2.1 is
>>>>> similar).
>>>>> The four eventfds are allocated by virtio-net, and shared with
>>>>> vhost-pci-net:
>>>>> Uses virtio-net’s TX/RX kickfd as the vhost-pci-net’s RX/TX callfd
>>>>> Uses virtio-net’s TX/RX callfd as the vhost-pci-net’s RX/TX kickfd
>>>>> Example of how it works:
>>>>> After packets are put into vhost-pci-net’s TX, the driver kicks TX,
>>>>> which
>>>>> causes the an interrupt associated with fd3 to be injected to
>>>>> virtio-net
>>>>>    The draft code of the 2.0 design is ready, and can be found here:
>>>>> Qemu: _https://github.com/wei-w-wang/vhost-pci-device_
>>>>> Guest driver: _https://github.com/wei-w-wang/vhost-pci-driver_
>>>>>    We tested the 2.0 implementation using the Spirent packet
>>>>> generator to transmit 64B packets, the results show that the
>>>>> throughput of vhost-pci reaches around 1.8Mpps, which is around
>>>>> two times larger than the legacy OVS+DPDK. Also, vhost-pci shows
>>>>> better scalability than OVS+DPDK.
>>>> Do you have numbers for the symmetric 2.1 case as well? Or is the
>>>> driver
>>>> not yet ready for that yet? Otherwise, I could try to make it work over
>>>> a simplistic vhost-pci 2.1 version in Jailhouse as well. That would
>>>> give
>>>> a better picture of how much additional complexity this would mean
>>>> compared to our ivshmem 2.0.
>>> Implementation of 2.1 is not ready yet. We can extend it to 2.1 after
>>> the common driver frame is reviewed.
>> Can you you assess the needed effort?
>> For us, this is a critical feature, because we need to decide if
>> vhost-pci can be an option at all. In fact, the "exotic ring" will be
>> the only way to provide secure inter-partition communication on
>> Jailhouse.
> If what is here for 2.0 is suitable to be upstream-ed, I think it will
> be easy
> to extend it to 2.1 (probably within 1 month).

Unfortunate ordering here, though. Specifically if we need to modify
existing things instead of just adding something. We will need 2.1 prior
to committing to 2.0 being the right thing.


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