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Re: [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] [PATCH] configure: introduce --enable-xen-f

From: Oleksandr Andrushchenko
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] [PATCH] configure: introduce --enable-xen-fb-backend
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 09:14:09 +0300
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On 04/14/2017 08:52 PM, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
On Fri, 14 Apr 2017, Juergen Gross wrote:
On 14/04/17 08:06, Oleksandr Andrushchenko wrote:
On 04/14/2017 03:12 AM, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
On Tue, 11 Apr 2017, Oleksandr Andrushchenko wrote:
From: Oleksandr Andrushchenko <address@hidden>

For some use cases when Xen framebuffer/input backend
is not a part of Qemu it is required to disable it,
because of conflicting access to input/display devices.
Introduce additional configuration option for explicit
input/display control.
In these cases when you don't want xenfb, why don't you just remove
"vfb" from the xl config file? QEMU only starts the xenfb backend when
requested by the toolstack.

Is it because you have an alternative xenfb backend? If so, is it really
fully xenfb compatible, or is it a different protocol? If it is a
different protocol, I suggest you rename your frontend/backend PV device
name to something different from "vfb".

Well, offending part is vkbd actually (for multi-touch
we run our own user-space backend which supports
kbd/ptr/mtouch), but vfb and vkbd is the same backend
in QEMU. So, I am ok for vfb, but just want vkbd off
So, there are 2 options:
1. At compile time remove vkbd and still allow vfb
2. Remove xenfb completely, if acceptable (this is my case)
What about adding a Xenstore entry for backend type and let qemu test
for it being not present or containing "qemu"?
sounds reasonable
That is what we do for the console, using the xenstore node "type". QEMU
is "ioemu" while xenconsoled is "xenconsoled". Weirdly, instead of a
backend node, it is a read-only frontend node, see

Oleksandr, I am sorry to feature-creep this simple patch, but I think
Juergen is right. But we cannot do it just for one protocol. We need to
introduce a generic way to enable/disable backends in QEMU. Using a
xenstore node is OK.

We could do exactly the same as the PV console, thus "type" = "ioemu",
read-only, under the frontend xenstore directory. Or we could introduce
new nodes. I would probably go for "backend-type" = "qemu" under the
backend xenstore directory. I don't have a strong opinion about this. In
the example below I'll use the PV console convention.

For starters:

* libxl needs to write the "type" node to xenstore for *all* protocols.
   The "type" is not yet configurable.
* qemu reads them for all backends, proceeds if "type" = "ioemu"

These should be two simple patches. Stage 2:

* we add options in the xl config file to configure any backend, libxl
   set "type" accordingly (Maybe not *any*, but vif, vkbd, vfb could all
   have a "type". It is OK if you only add an option for vkbd.)
* non-QEMU backends, in particular Linux backends, also read the "type"
   node and proceed if it's "linux"

Does this sound OK to you?
For the first take it does, but I'll get back to it a bit later
Actually the purpose of the change was to find a way
we can live with backends implemented in QEMU and user-space
and how they can co-exist

Thank you,

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