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Re: [Qemu-devel] [QEMU PATCH v2 0/2]: KVM: i386: Add support for save an
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Dr. David Alan Gilbert |
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Re: [Qemu-devel] [QEMU PATCH v2 0/2]: KVM: i386: Add support for save and restore nested state |
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Mon, 12 Nov 2018 16:50:54 +0000 |
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Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) |
* Daniel P. Berrangé (address@hidden) wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 04, 2018 at 11:19:57PM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > On 02/11/2018 17:54, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > > We have usually followed a rule that new machine types must not
> > > affect runability of a VM on a host. IOW new machine types should
> > > not introduce dependancies on specific kernels, or hardware features
> > > such as CPU flags.
> >
> > > Anything that requires a new kernel feature thus ought to be an
> > > opt-in config tunable on the CLI, separate from machine type
> > > choice.
> >
> > Unless someone tinkered with the module parameters, they could not even
> > use nested virtualization before 4.20. So for everyone else, "-cpu
> > ...,+vmx" does count as an "opt-in config tunable on the CLI" that
> > requires 4.20.
> >
> > For those that did tinker with module parameters, we can grandfather in
> > the old machine types, so that they can use nested virtualization with
> > no live migration support. For those that did not, however, I don't
> > think it makes sense to say "oh by the way I really want to be able to
> > migrate this VM" on the command line, or even worse on the monitor.
>
> IIUC, 4.20 is only required from POV of migration state. Is it thus
> possible to just register a migration blocker if QEMU is launched
> on a host with kernel < 4.20.
>
> Migration has always been busted historically, so those people using
> nested VMX already won't be hurt by not having ability to live migrate
> their VM, but could otherwise continue using them without being forced
> to upgrade their kernel to fix a feature they're not even using.
Yes, although I am a bit worried we might have a population of users
that:
a) Have enabled nesting
b) Run VMs with vmx enabled
c) Don't normally actually run nested guests
d) Currently happily migrate.
Dave
> Regards,
> Daniel
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- Re: [Qemu-devel] [QEMU PATCH v2 0/2]: KVM: i386: Add support for save and restore nested state, (continued)
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [QEMU PATCH v2 0/2]: KVM: i386: Add support for save and restore nested state, Daniel P . Berrangé, 2018/11/02
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [QEMU PATCH v2 0/2]: KVM: i386: Add support for save and restore nested state, Paolo Bonzini, 2018/11/04
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [QEMU PATCH v2 0/2]: KVM: i386: Add support for save and restore nested state, Liran Alon, 2018/11/02
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [QEMU PATCH v2 0/2]: KVM: i386: Add support for save and restore nested state, Jim Mattson, 2018/11/02
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [QEMU PATCH v2 0/2]: KVM: i386: Add support for save and restore nested state, Daniel P . Berrangé, 2018/11/02
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [QEMU PATCH v2 0/2]: KVM: i386: Add support for save and restore nested state, Jim Mattson, 2018/11/02
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [QEMU PATCH v2 0/2]: KVM: i386: Add support for save and restore nested state, Daniel P . Berrangé, 2018/11/02
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [QEMU PATCH v2 0/2]: KVM: i386: Add support for save and restore nested state, Dr. David Alan Gilbert, 2018/11/02
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [QEMU PATCH v2 0/2]: KVM: i386: Add support for save and restore nested state, Paolo Bonzini, 2018/11/04
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [QEMU PATCH v2 0/2]: KVM: i386: Add support for save and restore nested state, Daniel P . Berrangé, 2018/11/12
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [QEMU PATCH v2 0/2]: KVM: i386: Add support for save and restore nested state,
Dr. David Alan Gilbert <=
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [QEMU PATCH v2 0/2]: KVM: i386: Add support for save and restore nested state, Paolo Bonzini, 2018/11/12
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [QEMU PATCH v2 0/2]: KVM: i386: Add support for save and restore nested state, Daniel P . Berrangé, 2018/11/12
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [QEMU PATCH v2 0/2]: KVM: i386: Add support for save and restore nested state, Liran Alon, 2018/11/12
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [QEMU PATCH v2 0/2]: KVM: i386: Add support for save and restore nested state, Jim Mattson, 2018/11/12
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [QEMU PATCH v2 0/2]: KVM: i386: Add support for save and restore nested state, Liran Alon, 2018/11/12
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [QEMU PATCH v2 0/2]: KVM: i386: Add support for save and restore nested state, Liran Alon, 2018/11/12
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [QEMU PATCH v2 0/2]: KVM: i386: Add support for save and restore nested state, Jim Mattson, 2018/11/02
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [QEMU PATCH v2 0/2]: KVM: i386: Add support for save and restore nested state, Liran Alon, 2018/11/02
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [QEMU PATCH v2 0/2]: KVM: i386: Add support for save and restore nested state, Liran Alon, 2018/11/07
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [QEMU PATCH v2 0/2]: KVM: i386: Add support for save and restore nested state, Jim Mattson, 2018/11/07