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Re: [PATCH v4 00/14] hw/block/nvme: Support Namespace Types and Zoned Na


From: Keith Busch
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 00/14] hw/block/nvme: Support Namespace Types and Zoned Namespace Command Set
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 14:25:41 -0700

On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 08:36:48AM +0200, Klaus Jensen wrote:
> On Sep 28 02:33, Dmitry Fomichev wrote:
> > You are making it sound like the entire WDC series relies on this approach.
> > Actually, the persistency is introduced in the second to last patch in the
> > series and it only adds a couple of lines of code in the i/o path to mark
> > zones dirty. This is possible because of using mmap() and I find the way
> > it is done to be quite elegant, not ugly :)
> > 
> 
> No, I understand that your implementation works fine without
> persistance, but persistance is key. That is why my series adds it in
> the first patch. Without persistence it is just a toy. And the QEMU
> device is not just an "NVMe-version" of null_blk.

I really think we should be a bit more cautious of commiting to an
on-disk format for the persistent state. Both this and Klaus' persistent
state feels a bit ad-hoc, and with all the other knobs provided, it
looks too easy to have out-of-sync states, or just not being able to
boot at all if a qemu versions have different on-disk formats.

Is anyone really considering zone emulation for production level stuff
anyway? I can't imagine a real scenario where you'd want put yourself
through that: you are just giving yourself all the downsides of a zoned
block device and none of the benefits. AFAIK, this is provided as a
development vehicle, closer to a "toy".

I think we should consider trimming this down to a more minimal set that
we *do* agree on and commit for inclusion ASAP. We can iterate all the
bells & whistles and flush out the meta data's data marshalling scheme
for persistence later.



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