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Re: [PATCH qemu v20] spapr: Implement Open Firmware client interface


From: BALATON Zoltan
Subject: Re: [PATCH qemu v20] spapr: Implement Open Firmware client interface
Date: Tue, 25 May 2021 12:08:45 +0200 (CEST)

On Tue, 25 May 2021, David Gibson wrote:
On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 12:55:07PM +0200, BALATON Zoltan wrote:
On Mon, 24 May 2021, David Gibson wrote:
On Sun, May 23, 2021 at 07:09:26PM +0200, BALATON Zoltan wrote:
On Sun, 23 May 2021, BALATON Zoltan wrote:
On Sun, 23 May 2021, Alexey Kardashevskiy wrote:
One thing to note about PCI is that normally I think the client
expects the firmware to do PCI probing and SLOF does it. But VOF
does not and Linux scans PCI bus(es) itself. Might be a problem for
you kernel.

I'm not sure what info does MorphOS get from the device tree and what it
probes itself but I think it may at least need device ids and info about
the PCI bus to be able to access the config regs, after that it should
set the devices up hopefully. I could add these from the board code to
device tree so VOF does not need to do anything about it. However I'm
not getting to that point yet because it crashes on something that it's
missing and couldn't yet find out what is that.

I'd like to get Linux working now as that would be enough to test this
and then if for MorphOS we still need a ROM it's not a problem if at
least we can boot Linux without the original firmware. But I can't make
Linux open a serial console and I don't know what it needs for that. Do
you happen to know? I've looked at the sources in Linux/arch/powerpc but
not sure how it would find and open a serial port on pegasos2. It seems
to work with the board firmware and now I can get it to boot with VOF
but then it does not open serial so it probably needs something in the
device tree or expects the firmware to set something up that we should
add in pegasos2.c when using VOF.

I've now found that Linux uses rtas methods read-pci-config and
write-pci-config for PCI access on pegasos2 so this means that we'll
probably need rtas too (I hoped we could get away without it if it were only
used for shutdown/reboot or so but seems Linux needs it for PCI as well and
does not scan the bus and won't find some devices without it).

Yes, definitely sounds like you'll need an RTAS implementation.

I plan to fix that after managed to get serial working as that seems to not
need it. If I delete the rtas-size property from /rtas on the original
firmware that makes Linux skip instantiating rtas, but I still get serial
output just not accessing PCI devices. So I think it should work and keeps
things simpler at first. Then I'll try rtas later.

While VOF can do rtas, this causes a problem with the hypercall method using
sc 1 that goes through vhyp but trips the assert in ppc_store_sdr1() so
cannot work after guest is past quiesce.

So the question is why is that
assert there

Ah.. right.  So, vhyp was designed for the PAPR use case, where we
want to model the CPU when it's in supervisor and user mode, but not
when it's in hypervisor mode.  We want qemu to mimic the behaviour of
the hypervisor, rather than attempting to actually execute hypervisor
code in the virtual CPU.

On systems that have a hypervisor mode, SDR1 is hypervisor privileged,
so it makes no sense for the guest to attempt to set it.  That should
be caught by the general SPR code and turned into a 0x700, hence the
assert() if we somehow reach ppc_store_sdr1().

So, we are seeing a problem here because you want the 'sc 1'
interception of vhyp, but not the rest of the stuff that goes with it.

and would using sc 1 for hypercalls on pegasos2 cause other
problems later even if the assert could be removed?

At least in the short term, I think you probably can remove the
assert.  In your case the 'sc 1' calls aren't truly to a hypervisor,
but a special case escape to qemu for the firmware emulation.  I think
it's unlikely to cause problems later, because nothing on a 32-bit
system should be attempting an 'sc 1'.  The only thing I can think of
that would fail is some test case which explicitly verified that 'sc
1' triggered a 0x700 (SIGILL from userspace).

OK so the assert should check if the CPU has an HV bit. I think there was a
#detine for that somewhere that I can add to the assert then I can try that.
What I wasn't sure about is that sc 1 would conflict with the guest's usage
of normal sc calls or are these going through different paths and only sc 1
will trigger vhyp callback not affecting notmal sc calls?

The vhyp shouldn't affect normal system calls, 'sc 1' is specifically
for hypercalls, as opposed to normal 'sc' (a.k.a. 'sc 0'), and the
vhyp only intercepts the hypercall version (after all Linux on PAPR
certainly uses its own system calls, and hypercalls are active for the
lifetime of the guest there).

(Or if this causes
an otherwise unnecessary VM exit on KVM even when it works then maybe
looking for a different way in the future might be needed.

What you're doing here won't work with KVM as it stands.  There are
basically two paths into the vhyp hypercall path: 1) from TCG, if we
interpret an 'sc 1' instruction we enter vhyp, 2) from KVM, if we get
a KVM_EXIT_PAPR_HCALL KVM exit then we also go to the vhyp path.

The second path is specific to the PAPR (ppc64) implementation of KVM,
and will not work for a non-PAPR platform without substantial
modification of the KVM code.

OK so then at that point when we try KVM we'll need to look at alternative ways, I think MOL OSI worked with KVM at least in MOL but will probably make all syscalls exit KVM but since we'll probably need to use KVM PR it will exit anyway. For now I keep this vhyp as it does not run with KVM for other reasons yet so that's another area to clean up so as a proof of concept first version of using VOF vhyp will do.

[...]
I've tested that the missing rtas is not the reason for getting no output
via serial though, as even when disabling rtas on pegasos2.rom it boots and
I still get serial output just some PCI devices are not detected (such as
USB, the video card and the not emulated ethernet port but these are not
fatal so it might even work as a first try without rtas, just to boot a
Linux kernel for testing it would be enough if I can fix the serial output).
I still don't know why it's not finding serial but I think it may be some
missing or wrong info in the device tree I generat. I'll try to focus on
this for now and leave the above rtas question for later.

Oh.. another thought on that.  You have an ISA serial port on Pegasos,
I believe.  I wonder if the PCI->ISA bridge needs some configuration /
initialization that the firmware is expected to do.  If so you'll need
to mimic that setup in qemu for the VOF case.

That's what I begin to think because I've added everything to the device
tree that I thought could be needed and I still don't get it working so it
may need some config from the firmware. But how do I access device registers
from board code? I've tried adding a machine reset method and write to
memory mapped device registers but all my attempts failed. I've tried
cpu_stl_le_data and even memory_region_dispatch_write but these did not get
to the device. What's the way to access guest mmio regs from QEMU?

That's odd, cpu_stl() and memory_region_dispatch_write() should work
from board code (after the relevant memory regions are configured, of
course).  As an ISA serial port, it's probably accessed through IO
space, not memory space though, so you'd need &address_space_io.  And
if there is some bridge configuration then it's the bridge control
registers you need to look at not the serial registers - you'd have to
look at the bridge documentation for that.  Or, I guess the bridge
implementation in qemu, which you wrote part of.

I've found at last that stl_le_phys() works. There are so many of these that I never know when to use which.

I think the address_space_rw calls in vof_client_call() in vof.c could also use these for somewhat shorter code. I've ended up with stl_le_phys(CPU(cpu)->as, addr, val) in my machine reset methodbut I don't even need that now as it works without additional setup. Also VOF's memory access is basically the same as the already existing rtas_st() and co. so maybe that could be reused to make code smaller?

Regards,
BALATON Zoltan



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