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Re: [PATCH 0/3] Disable vhost device IOTLB is IOMMU is not enabled


From: Jason Wang
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Disable vhost device IOTLB is IOMMU is not enabled
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 09:46:10 +0800
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在 2021/8/5 上午12:08, Peter Xu 写道:
On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 11:48:00AM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
Hi:

We currently try to enable device IOTLB when iommu_platform is
set. This may lead unnecessary trasnsactions between qemu and vhost
when vIOMMU is not used (which is the typical case for the encrypted
VM).

So patch tries to use transport specific method to detect the enalbing
of vIOMMU and enable the device IOTLB only if vIOMMU is enalbed.
Just to mention that there's also the ordering requirement for e.g. vfio-pci
and the iommu device so far because vfio_realize() depends on vIOMMU being
realized too, so specifying "-device vfio-pci" before "-device intel-iommu"
will stop working, I think (see the similar pci_device_iommu_address_space()
call in vfio_realize()).


Right, I actually try to google and end up with one patch that you posted to make sure vtd is initialized first.



Do you think vhost can do the same to assume vIOMMU must be specified before
vhost?


See below and I think it's not user friendly. I think maybe there should a general way to handle the order/dependency of device initialization in Qemu. But until that is implemented, I tend to use the "workaround" like this.


Then vhost can call pci_device_iommu_address_space() freely.  It'll be
more gentle for vhost even when it's used wrong: instead of not working at all
(vfio-pci), vhost runs slower.


It's not about the slower, if pci_device_iommu_address_space() is used we will end up a wrong dma_as which breaks virtio DMA.



Currently libvirt should be able to guarantee that ordering so libvirt users
shouldn't need to bother.  I think libvirt should also guarantee the vIOMMU
device to be created before all the rest devices, including virtio/vhost.  But
need to check.  If that's the case libvirt will naturally work for vhost too.

For the long term we may need to think about making device creation to be not
ordered by user cmdline input but still has a priority specified in the code
itself.


I fully agree.


  Migration has something like that (MigrationPriority).  I think we
just need something similar for general device realizations.  Since vhost
raised the same need, I think that priority should bump up too.


Yes.


The other concern is right now vhost has vhost_dev.dma_as but now we're not
using it for vhost_dev_has_iommu().


If I understand correctly, both of us means using pci_device_iommu_address_space() in get_dma_as. If this is true, it's not he vhost_dev.dma_as but virtio_dev.dma_as.

So it breaks virtio actually (see above).



   It's just a bit confusing as when to use
which.


Yes, but I don't think a better approach.

Thanks



What do you think?

Thanks,





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