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Re: [PATCH v2 0/3] virtio: increase VIRTQUEUE_MAX_SIZE to 32k


From: Michael S. Tsirkin
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/3] virtio: increase VIRTQUEUE_MAX_SIZE to 32k
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2021 07:19:43 -0400

On Tue, Oct 05, 2021 at 01:10:56PM +0200, Christian Schoenebeck wrote:
> On Dienstag, 5. Oktober 2021 09:38:53 CEST David Hildenbrand wrote:
> > On 04.10.21 21:38, Christian Schoenebeck wrote:
> > > At the moment the maximum transfer size with virtio is limited to 4M
> > > (1024 * PAGE_SIZE). This series raises this limit to its maximum
> > > theoretical possible transfer size of 128M (32k pages) according to the
> > > virtio specs:
> > > 
> > > https://docs.oasis-open.org/virtio/virtio/v1.1/cs01/virtio-v1.1-cs01.html#
> > > x1-240006
> > I'm missing the "why do we care". Can you comment on that?
> 
> Primary motivation is the possibility of improved performance, e.g. in case 
> of 
> 9pfs, people can raise the maximum transfer size with the Linux 9p client's 
> 'msize' option on guest side (and only on guest side actually). If guest 
> performs large chunk I/O, e.g. consider something "useful" like this one on 
> guest side:
> 
>   time cat large_file_on_9pfs.dat > /dev/null
> 
> Then there is a noticable performance increase with higher transfer size 
> values. That performance gain is continuous with rising transfer size values, 
> but the performance increase obviously shrinks with rising transfer sizes as 
> well, as with similar concepts in general like cache sizes, etc.
> 
> Then a secondary motivation is described in reason (2) of patch 2: if the 
> transfer size is configurable on guest side (like it is the case with the 
> 9pfs 
> 'msize' option), then there is the unpleasant side effect that the current 
> virtio limit of 4M is invisible to guest; as this value of 4M is simply an 
> arbitrarily limit set on QEMU side in the past (probably just implementation 
> motivated on QEMU side at that point), i.e. it is not a limit specified by 
> the 
> virtio protocol,

According to the spec it's specified, sure enough: vq size limits the
size of indirect descriptors too.
However, ever since commit 44ed8089e991a60d614abe0ee4b9057a28b364e4 we
do not enforce it in the driver ...

> nor is this limit be made aware to guest via virtio protocol 
> at all. The consequence with 9pfs would be if user tries to go higher than 
> 4M, 
> then the system would simply hang with this QEMU error:
> 
>   virtio: too many write descriptors in indirect table
> 
> Now whether this is an issue or not for individual virtio users, depends on 
> whether the individual virtio user already had its own limitation <= 4M 
> enforced on its side.
> 
> Best regards,
> Christian Schoenebeck
> 




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