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Re: [PATCH] acpi: cpuhp: fix guest-visible maximum access size to the le


From: Michael S. Tsirkin
Subject: Re: [PATCH] acpi: cpuhp: fix guest-visible maximum access size to the legacy reg block
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2023 04:51:07 -0500

On Thu, Jan 05, 2023 at 10:00:00AM +0100, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:
> On 5/1/23 08:13, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> > On 1/4/23 13:35, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jan 04, 2023 at 10:01:38AM +0100, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> [...]
> 
> > > > To make things *even more* complicated, the breakage was (and remains, 
> > > > as
> > > > of today) visible with TCG acceleration only.  Commit 5d971f9e6725 makes
> > > > no difference with KVM acceleration -- the DWORD accesses still work,
> > > > despite "valid.max_access_size = 1".
> > > 
> > > BTW do you happen to know why that's the case for KVM? Because if kvm
> > > ignores valid.max_access_size generally then commit 5d971f9e6725 is
> > > incomplete, and we probably have some related kvm-only bugs.
> > 
> > It remains a mystery for me why KVM accel does not enforce
> > "valid.max_access_size".
> > 
> > In the thread I started earlier (which led to this patch), at
> > 
> >    "IO port write width clamping differs between TCG and KVM"
> >    https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2023-01/msg00199.html
> 
> [...]
> 
> > So, I think the bug is somehow "distributed" between
> > flatview_write_continue(), flatview_access_allowed(), and
> > memory_access_size(). flatview_access_allowed() does not care about "l"
> > at all, when it should (maybe?) compare it against
> > "mr->ops->valid.max_access_size". In turn, memory_access_size()
> > *silently* reduces the access width, based on
> > "->ops->valid.max_access_size".
> > 
> > And all this this *precedes* the call to memory_region_access_valid(),
> > which is only called from within memory_region_dispatch_write(), which
> > already gets the reduced width only.
> > 
> > Now, flatview_access_allowed() is from commit 3ab6fdc91b72
> > ("softmmu/physmem: Introduce MemTxAttrs::memory field and
> > MEMTX_ACCESS_ERROR", 2022-03-21), and the fact it does not check "len"
> > seems intentional -- it only takes "len" for logging.
> > 
> > Hmm. After digging a lot more, I find the issue may have been introduced
> > over three commits:
> > 
> > - 82f2563fc815 ("exec: introduce memory_access_size", 2013-05-29), which
> >    (IIUC) was the first step towards automatically reducing the address
> >    width, but at first only based on alignment,
> > 
> > - 23326164ae6f ("exec: Support 64-bit operations in address_space_rw",
> >    2013-07-14), which extended the splitting based on
> >    "MemoryRegionOps.impl",
> > 
> > - e1622f4b1539 ("exec: fix incorrect assumptions in memory_access_size",
> >    2013-07-18), which flipped the splitting basis to
> >    "MemoryRegionOps.valid".
> > 
> > To me, 23326164ae6f seems *vaguely* correct ("vague" is not criticism
> > for the commit, it's criticism for my understanding :)); after all we're
> > on our way towards the device model, and the device model exposes via
> > "MemoryRegionOps.impl" what it can handle. Plus, commit 5d971f9e6725
> > does direct us towards "MemoryRegionOps.impl"!
> > 
> > But clearly there must have been something wrong with 23326164ae6f,
> > according to e1622f4b1539...
> 
> Maybe the long-standing unaligned access problem? Could be fixed by:
> https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/20210619172626.875885-15-richard.henderson@linaro.org/

indeed. want to dust it up and post?

> > The latter is what introduced the current "silent splitting of access
> > based on 'valid'". The message of commit e1622f4b1539 says, almost like
> > an afterthought:
> > 
> > >      access_size_max can be mr->ops->valid.max_access_size because 
> > > memory.c
> > >      can and will still break accesses bigger than
> > >      mr->ops->impl.max_access_size.
> > 
> > I think this argument may have been wrong: if "impl.max_access_size" is
> > large (such as: unset), but "valid.max_access_size" is small, that just
> > means:
> > 
> >    the implementation is flexible and can deal with any access widths (so
> >    "memory.c" *need not* break up accesses for the device model's sake),
> >    but the device should restrict the *guest* to small accesses. So if
> >    the guest tries something larger, we shouldn't silently accommodate
> >    that.
> 
> Indeed. '.impl' is a software thing for the device modeller, ideally one
> will chose a value that allows the simplest implementation. I.e. if a
> device only allows 8-bit access, use 8-bit registers aligned on a 64-bit
> boundary, the model might use:
> 
>   .impl.min_access_size = 8,
>   .impl.max_access_size = 1,
> 
> Also we need to keep in mind that even if most MemoryRegionOps structs
> are 'static const', such structure can be dynamically created. I.e.:
> https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/20200817161853.593247-5-f4bug@amsat.org/
> 
> > I have zero idea how to fix this, but I feel that the quoted argument
> > from commit e1622f4b1539 is the reason why KVM accel is so lenient that
> > it sort of "de-fangs" commit 5d971f9e6725.
> > 
> > Laszlo
> > 




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