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Re: [PATCH 00/52] migration/rdma: Error handling fixes


From: Markus Armbruster
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/52] migration/rdma: Error handling fixes
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2023 15:22:33 +0200
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Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> writes:

> On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 12:49:46PM -0400, Peter Xu wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 04:41:14PM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>> > Oh dear, where to start.  There's so much wrong, and in pretty obvious
>> > ways.  This code should never have passed review.  I'm refraining from
>> > saying more; see the commit messages instead.
>> > 
>> > Issues remaining after this series include:
>> > 
>> > * Terrible error messages
>> > 
>> > * Some error message cascades remain
>> > 
>> > * There is no written contract for QEMUFileHooks, and the
>> >   responsibility for reporting errors is unclear
>> 
>> Even being removed.. because no one is really extending that..
>> 
>> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20230509120700.78359-1-quintela@redhat.com/#t
>
> One day (in another 5-10 years) I still hope we'll get to
> the point where QEMUFile itself is obsolete :-) Getting
> rid of QEMUFileHooks is a great step in that direction.
> Me finishing a old PoC to bring buffering to QIOChannel
> would be another big step.
>
> The data rate limiting would be the biggest missing piece
> to enable migration/vmstate logic to directly consume
> a QIOChannel.
>
> Eliminating QEMUFile would help to bring Error **errp
> to all the vmstate codepaths.

Sounds like improvement to me.

>> > * There seem to be no tests whatsoever
>> 
>> I always see rdma as "odd fixes" stage.. for a long time.  But maybe I was
>> wrong.

To be honest, it doesn't look or smell maintained to me.  More like
thrown over the fence and left to rot.  Given the shape it is in, I
wouldn't let friends use it in production.

> In the MAINTAINERS file RDMA still get classified as formally
> supported under the migration maintainers.  I'm not convinced
> that is an accurate description of its status.  I tend to agree
> with you that it is 'odd fixes' at the very best.

Let's fix MAINTAINERS not to raise unrealistic expectations.

> Dave Gilbert had previously speculated about whether we should
> even consider deprecating it on the basis that latest non-RDMA
> migration is too much better than in the past, with multifd
> and zerocopy, that RDMA might not even offer a significant
> enough peformance win to justify.

I provided approximately 52 additional arguments for deprecating it :)

>> Copying Zhijian for status of rdma; Zhijian, I saw that you just replied to
>> the hwpoison issue.  Maybe we should have one entry for rdma too, just like
>> colo?
>
> With regards,
> Daniel




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