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Re: [PATCH 1/5] migration/multifd: Separate compression ops from non-com
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Fabiano Rosas |
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Re: [PATCH 1/5] migration/multifd: Separate compression ops from non-compression |
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Mon, 29 Jan 2024 09:42:24 -0300 |
Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> writes:
> On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 07:19:39PM -0300, Fabiano Rosas wrote:
>> +static MultiFDMethods multifd_socket_ops = {
>> + .send_setup = multifd_socket_send_setup,
>> + .send_cleanup = multifd_socket_send_cleanup,
>> + .send_prepare = multifd_socket_send_prepare,
>
> Here it's named with "socket", however not all socket-based multifd
> migrations will go into this route, e.g., when zstd compression enabled it
> will not go via this route, even if zstd also uses sockets as transport.
> From that pov, this may be slightly confusing. Maybe it suites more to be
> called "socket_plain" / "socket_no_comp"?
>
> One step back, I had a feeling that the current proposal tried to provide a
> single ->ops to cover a model where we may need more than one layer of
> abstraction.
>
> Since it might be helpful to allow multifd send arbitrary data (e.g. for
> VFIO? Avihai might have an answer there..), I'll try to even consider that
> into the picture.
>
> Let's consider the ultimate goal of multifd, where the simplest model could
> look like this in my mind (I'm only discussing sender side, but it'll be
> similar on recv side):
>
> prepare() send()
> Input ----------------> IOVs ------------> iochannels
>
> [I used prepare/send, but please think them as generic terms, not 100%
> aligned with what we have with existing multifd_ops, or what you proposed
> later]
>
> Here what are sure, IMHO, is:
>
> - We always can have some input data to dump; I didn't use "guest pages"
> just to say we may allow arbitrary data. For any multifd user that
> would like to dump arbitrary data, they can already provide IOVs, so
> here input can be either "MultiFDPages_t" or "IOVs".
Or anything else, since the client code also has control over send(),
no? So it could give multifd a pointer to some memory and then use
send() to do whatever it wants with it. Multifd is just providing worker
threads and "scheduling".
Also note that multifd clients currently _do not_ provide IOVs. They
merely provide data to multifd (p->pages) and then convert that data
into IOVs at prepare(). This is different, because multifd currently
holds that p->pages (and turns that into p->normal), which means the
client code does not need to store the data across iterations (in the
case of RAM which is iterative).
>
> - We may always want to have IOVs to represent the buffers at some point,
> no matter what the input it
>
> - We always flush the IOVs to iochannels; basically I want to say we can
> always assume the last layer is connecting to QIOChannel APIs, while I
> don't think there's outliers here so far, even if the send() may differ.
>
> Then _maybe_ it's clearer that we can have two layers of OPs?
>
> - prepare(): it tells how the "input" will be converted into a scatter
> gatter list of buffers. All compression methods fall into this afaiu.
> This has _nothing_ to do on how the buffers will be sent. For
> arbitrary-typed input, this can already be a no-op since the IOVs
> provided can already be passed over to send().
>
> - send(): how to dump the IOVs to the iochannels. AFAIU this is motly
> only useful for fixed-ram migrations.
>
> Would this be clearer, rather than keep using a single multifd_ops?
Sorry, I don't see how what you describe is any different than what we
have. And I don't see how any of this would mean more than one
multifd_ops. We already have multifd_ops->prepare() and
multifd_ops->send(). What am I missing?
- [PATCH 0/5] migration/multifd: Prerequisite cleanups for ongoing work, Fabiano Rosas, 2024/01/26
- [PATCH 3/5] migration/multifd: Add multifd_ops->send, Fabiano Rosas, 2024/01/26
- [PATCH 1/5] migration/multifd: Separate compression ops from non-compression, Fabiano Rosas, 2024/01/26
- Re: [PATCH 1/5] migration/multifd: Separate compression ops from non-compression, Peter Xu, 2024/01/29
- Re: [PATCH 1/5] migration/multifd: Separate compression ops from non-compression,
Fabiano Rosas <=
- Re: [PATCH 1/5] migration/multifd: Separate compression ops from non-compression, Peter Xu, 2024/01/30
- Re: [PATCH 1/5] migration/multifd: Separate compression ops from non-compression, Fabiano Rosas, 2024/01/30
- Re: [PATCH 1/5] migration/multifd: Separate compression ops from non-compression, Peter Xu, 2024/01/31
- Re: [PATCH 1/5] migration/multifd: Separate compression ops from non-compression, Fabiano Rosas, 2024/01/31
- Re: [PATCH 1/5] migration/multifd: Separate compression ops from non-compression, Peter Xu, 2024/01/31
[PATCH 4/5] migration/multifd: Simplify zero copy send, Fabiano Rosas, 2024/01/26
[PATCH 2/5] migration/multifd: Move multifd_socket_ops to socket.c, Fabiano Rosas, 2024/01/26
[PATCH 5/5] migration/multifd: Move zero copy flag into multifd_socket_setup, Fabiano Rosas, 2024/01/26
RE: [PATCH 0/5] migration/multifd: Prerequisite cleanups for ongoing work, Liu, Yuan1, 2024/01/28