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[Savannah-hackers-public] Re: [ #323176] [Savannah] PEAR's QuickF

From: Sylvain Beucler
Subject: [Savannah-hackers-public] Re: [ #323176] [Savannah] PEAR's QuickForm and the PHP license
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:56:26 +0100
User-agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11)


I initiated a discussion with the PHP and PEAR group:

Nobody is sure about whether the latest PHP license is compatible with
the GNU GPL, in fact.

- Could you precise whether the PHP license v3.0_1_ is compatible with
  GPLv2? There's only comments about compatibility with v3.0 (not
  3.01). I attach a diff. I think those changes were made to make the
  license applicable to works that are not PHP itself but also
  released by the PHP Group, following a request by the Debian-legal

- More importantly, is the PHP license v3.01 compatible with

  The comment at the end of makes
  me thing there's no compatibility:

"However, the second draft of the GPLv3 prohibits the following additional 
    requirements regarding changes to the name of the work 
which conflicts with the PHP license's prohibition on using "PHP" as a name for 
the work."

This affects the way we approve GNU GPL'd project using PEAR packages
at Savannah, so I'd like to be sure about it. Can you check?



On Fri, Dec 08, 2006 at 09:27:04PM +0100, Sylvain Beucler wrote:
> Hello,
> I'd like to include the QuickForm package/library [1] in my GPL'd
> application. It is licensed under the PHP license and is Copyright (c)
> 1997-2003 The PHP Group.
> As the license is not compatible with GNU GPLv2, I'd like to make the
> QuickForm people switch their license. I already contacted them but
> they do not seem much informed about the situation. I know I could
> wait for GPLv3 but I need this library for a developpement right now -
> so I'm willing to spent a little time on a license change :)
> Maybe I could add a GPL exception to my program in order to legally
> use it, but I also use other GPL'd pieces of code that I don't own, so
> this is probably not an option.
> I have 2 questions:
> - Did you already have to deal with the PHP license and PEAR packages?
>   Do you have any advice/experience about this? This issue is not new.
> - Do you know whether the 'PHP Group' is a legal entity? I asked the
>   QuickForm authors whether they signed a copyright paper - they
>   didn't reply yet. I could not find a way to contact this 'PHP Group'
>   either. I wonder whether the 'PHP Group' is really the copyright
>   holder of QuickForm, or if the copyright notice is just part of a
>   PEAR policy, without legal basis - in which case each contributor
>   would be a co-owner, and a license change would be quite difficult,
> Thanks in advance,
> [1]
> [2]
> [3] 
> -- 
> Sylvain

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