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RE: [avrdude-dev] Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] Hosting requirements ina

From: Weddington, Eric
Subject: RE: [avrdude-dev] Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] Hosting requirements inavrdude
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 14:49:08 -0600

We understand that there are hosting requirements for a project on Savannah. I 
don't even think that we have objections to them, even if we find one or two of 
them a bit silly, and that overall we would be willing to comply in some 

I do think that there are several other issues here that need to be addressed:

1. Identify who you are. I don't this Mario person at all. It would be helpful 
if he identified who he is, what organization is he from, and what the purpose 
of the email. Otherwise he comes across as every other opinionated person in 
the public, who would be duly ignored if he communicated that way.

2. Try to have reasonably good English. If you're an admin, and speaking as an 
authority from some group, then it is helpful to have at least decent spelling. 
I understand that English is not everyone's first language; I regularly work on 
many free and open source projects with people from all around the world with 
varying degrees of command of the language. But with that many spelling errors 
in the email, I was beginning to wonder if this was a troll.

3. Be specific. One should read Eric Raymond's "How to Ask Questions the Smart 
Way": <>. If you're going to tell 
us that something is wrong with the project, then please be specific as to what 
is wrong so we don't have to play "20 questions" to guess where it is at. Like 
all volunteer developers our time is always limited, and the more detailed you 
can be, the easier it is for us to fix it. Or maybe if someone is really 
motivated, patches are always welcome. ;-)

4. Which brings me to my next point: DO NOT GO AND CHANGE ANYTHING ON THE 
PROJECT WITHOUT PERMISSION! This was *way over the line* and heavy-handed. The 
point is to communicate with us first! Give us time to work out the issues and 
get things fixed. If you come across as a dictator, then that makes us feel 
like our project is not welcome, and we *will* move elsewhere.

Bottom line: If you are unreasonable, then it gives us no incentive to be 
reasonable back. If you are reasonable, we will work towards fixing any 
perceived problems.

Eric Weddington

> -----Original Message-----
> From: 
> address@hidden 
> [mailto:address@hidden
> rg] On Behalf Of Sylvain Beucler
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 1:10 PM
> To: address@hidden
> Cc: address@hidden
> Subject: [avrdude-dev] Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] Hosting 
> requirements inavrdude
> Hi all,
> Hmm, it looks like the situation somewhat got out of hands.
> Apologizes if you felt the request was worded unpolitely.
> We'll discuss the problem and come back to you in a while to clarify
> the situation.
> Regards,
> -- 
> Sylvain
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