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Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] Moving #savannah from FreeNode to OFTC

From: Yavor Doganov
Subject: Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] Moving #savannah from FreeNode to OFTC
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:04:46 +0300
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At Sun, 25 Jul 2010 12:51:12 -0500,
Mario Castelan Castro wrote:
> > It is unfortunate that #savannah is not going to be on the same

> I rather think it's unfortunate GNU channels are on Freenode

If you believe so (note that I don't dispute your statement, as I
can't possibly evaluate its meaning), it would be better to launch an
organized move to OFTC (or wherever), after some negotiations with
FreeNode, perhaps.  For purely organizational purposes, it is best all
GNU projects to be uniform, as far as it is possible.

When Debian moved to OFTC, all their channels moved.  And there was a
project-wide discussion prior the move.  (I'm not saying we should
mimic Debian, I hope that's clear.)

> IMO we shouldn't follow the majority just because it is the
> majority.

Of course.  But by the same token, we shouldn't strive to convince GNU
projects to move to Savannah...

> There is plenty of free multi-network IRC clients which users can
> use.

I guess so.  But I also suspect that an IRC client for a regular IRC
user is what an editor is for me.  So I anticipate you won't be very
happy as a user to switch to, say,, after using irssi or
ERC for years.  I think the potential inconvenience is a fact; maybe
not a severe problem, but still a problem.

My intrudence in the thread was merely a suggestion to retry/revisit
the conversation with rms.  Maybe he simply misunderstood the problem;
I know for sure that he is serious about issues of privacy and

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