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[Savannah-hackers] [ 101225 ] Import bashdb to CVS, please.

From: R. Bernstein
Subject: [Savannah-hackers] [ 101225 ] Import bashdb to CVS, please.
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 09:05:12 -0400

address@hidden writes:
 > Support Request #101225, was updated on 2002-Aug-26 16:12
 > You can respond by visiting: 
 > Category: CVS
 > Status: Open
 > Priority: 5
 > Summary: Import bashdb to CVS, please.
 > By: yeupou
 > Date: 2002-Sep-06 12:27
 > Logged In: YES 
 > user_id=1896
 > Browser: Mozilla/5.0 Galeon/1.2.5 (X11 ; GNU / Linux 2.4.18-3custom i686 ; 
 > fr_FR)
 > There's no  /cvsroot/bashdb//bashdb/CWRU/#cvs.lock
 > Sorry about the lack of communication. If I remember well, I
 > put myself the content of your cvs tree. At this moment, a
 > mail should have been sent to you. But this week I was
 > really overloaded, sleeping only 4/5 hours max per night
 > (work + moving to a new flat). After this, I was not able to
 > use internet for a almost a week. Really sorry.
 > Can you tell me how it works now?

Sorry, but all of this is a too little too late.  I've already moved
the project over to

So now I guess you can just remove it from Savannah. I understand and
appreciate that you are busy, that this is volunteer work or near
volunteer work and that emergencies happen. That however is not the
point. It's the Savannah organization conducting itself professionally
that greatly bothers me. Recent experience with Savannah doesn't bode
well for having a project hosted on Savannah.

I am a Systems Administrator myself. Let me explain Mathematics for
System Administrators. There are only a small set of numbers you need
to know: 0 = broken. That's been this project on Savannah for the last
two weeks. 1 = it works, great!  And 2 = you can take a vacation, be
overloaded at work and move and things are still work. The Savannah
team hasn't got to that advanced blissful Nirvana 2 yet.

If you were busy or out of pocket, perhaps you could have indicated
that this was likely to be the case to me and your Savannah colleagues.
That would have been real cool. 

Worse, you have no backup person. If you disappear for 2 weeks --
nothing happens. No one feels compelled to take over your pending
requests or help you out.  I am not even suggesting that any of this
get *fixed*, although that would be grat. But that the Savannah "team"
give a clue as to what's going on. The fix is/was probably issuing a
single Unix command, like: 
find /cvsroot/bashdb/bashdb -type d -exec chmod +w {} \;

Two weeks to get a project imported to CVS is pretty sucky. When you
did your CVS import, I doubt you tried to do a checkout or no doubt
you would have seen a problem as I and others have.

In half the time for you to get back to me on this single problem
Sourceforge has the project approved *and* properly imported into CVS.
And this included a delay in import because of the Labor Day holiday.

Unfortunately the time that you were very busy was exactly the time I
have to get this set up and try to get others interested in working on
this. There has been a lot of activity in this period.

In sum, if Savannah is to be successful, you (and "you" here is
plural) gotta be more professional.

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