[gnu.org #359140] Re: [Savannah-help-public] Redirecting bug-gnu-emacs to emacsbugs

[Joshua Ginsberg via RT]

Howdy --

Thank you -- by "envelope from" I mean the value submitted during the
SMTP exchange for the MAIL command, e.g. MAIL FROM:
<address@hidden> -- if this is correct, I can
set up the router based on that, but I'd like to also restrict the
router's action by client, that is, "What host will be sending the mail
that you actually want distributed to the list?" Will it be
64.62.190.156? Or 138.23.92.77?

So to reiterate what I'm interpreting your request to be, the router
would only permit a posting to address@hidden if the posting came
from a specific host and had the envelope MAIL FROM of
address@hidden -- otherwise, the message would
be rerouted and redirected to address@hidden -- is
this correct?

Thanks!

-jag

> address@hidden - Wed Apr 30 03:00:21 2008]:
> 
> > I apologize for the delay in response, but I can certainly help you move
> > forward with this.
> 
> > Rather than muck with an already creaky and hack-laden Mailman instance,
> > I'd prefer to do this on the MTA side -- I can create a router to
> > conditionally reroute traffic for bug-gnu-emacs elsewhere -- I just need
> > to know the envelope and client parameters.
> 
> I hoped Don or Stephen would know what to tell you, because I don't.
> The quoted thread already says what I know:
> 
> 1 - Mail that is sent to address@hidden should be redirected to
> > address@hidden (and not distributed to the
> > recipients of the address@hidden mailing-list).
> 2 - Mail coming from the address@hidden to
> > address@hidden should be distributed to the recipients of the
> > address@hidden list.
> 
> I don't know what envelope parameters you need to know, nor what "client"
> you have in mind.  If you want to know the "envelope-from" parameter for
> email coming from the address@hidden mailing-list, it
> seems to be "address@hidden".
> 
> 
> >     Stefan
> 
> 
> >> address@hidden - Sat Mar 29 15:57:34 2008]:
> >> 
> >> Hi,
> >> 
> >> We're trying to use a Debbugs to manage bug reports for the
> >> Emacs project.  For various reason, it is necessary to reuse the
> >> address@hidden email address for bug submission as well as the
> >> bug-gnu-emacs mailing-list for distribution of the discussions about
> >> bugs, so we need to insert the Debbugs in between the
> >> address@hidden address and the bug-gnu-emacs Mailman list.
> >> 
> >> Stephen J. Turnbull says that a clean way to do it is to add a special
> >> Mailman Handler for the bug-gnu-emacs list which would redirect to
> >> Debbugs all the email that is not coming from Debbugs.  Can you help
> >> us
> >> out here?
> >> 
> >> 
> >> >     Stefan
> >> 
> >> 
> >> >>>>> "Sylvain" == Sylvain Beucler <address@hidden> writes:
> >> 
> >> > On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 09:01:48AM +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> >> >> > >>>>> "Sylvain" == Sylvain Beucler <address@hidden> writes:
> >> >> > > On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 09:55:11PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > >> >> All email sent to address@hidden should not go to
> >> Mailman,
> >> >> > >> >> but instead it should be forwarded to
> >> >> > >> >> address@hidden
> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> > >> >> Then all mail currently sent from Emacsbugs to the
> >> >> > >> >> address@hidden mailing list should be
> >> distributed to
> >> >> > >> >> the members of the bug-gnu-emacs mailing list.
> >> >>
> >> >> > >> > Well, there's no magic. The only working
> >> >> > >> > "address@hidden" adress is "bug-gnu-
> >> address@hidden",
> >> >> > >> > so if you want to make that one point to somewhere else, we
> >> need to
> >> >> > >> > rename the Mailman mailing list.
> >> >>
> >> >> I don't think this is true.  AFAIK Mailman knows nothing and cares
> >> >> less about the envelope recipient.
> >> >>
> >> >> So you should currently have an alias (sendmail-style, and I'm
> >> kinda
> >> >> guessing here, depends on Mailman version and suchlike)
> >> >>
> >> >> bug-gnu-emacs:          "|/var/lib/mailman/bin/mailman post 
> >> >> bug-gnu-emacs"
> >> >>
> >> >> Change that to
> >> >>
> >> >> bug-gnu-emacs:          address@hidden
> >> >> bug-gnu-emacs-really:   "|/var/lib/mailman/bin/mailman post bug-gnu-
> >> emacs"
> >> >>
> >> >> Obviously you need the right configuration of the debbugs program
> >> at
> >> >> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, pointing back to "bug-gnu-emacs-
> >> really".
> >> >> Season nomenclature to taste (-recipients made line-length 82
> >> columns ;-).
> >> >>
> >> >> Note that you now have three addresses where spam can get into the
> >> >> pipeline.  I don't know how these "internal" addresses leak out,
> >> but
> >> >> they sometimes do.  So you may wish to restrict the envelope sender
> >> to
> >> >> bug-gnu-emacs-really to be "emacsbugs".  You probably also want to
> >> >> ensure that traffic to "submit" always goes via the "bug-gnu-emacs"
> >> >> alias, or you need to make "address@hidden" be
> >> an
> >> >> alias of bug-gnu-emacs in the Mailman interface.
> >> 
> >> > Hi,
> >> 
> >> > We don't have root access to the lists.gnu.org computer, so this
> >> kind
> >> > of thing is outside our reach. Please contact address@hidden to
> >> see
> >> > if they can do something.
> >> 
> >> > Consider that lists.gnu.org hosts thousands of lists - this is
> >> > mass-hosting. There isn't a series of hand-made aliases, but a set
> >> of
> >> > custom Exim rules that deliver all @gnu.org and @nongnu.org to
> >> Mailman
> >> > or other places (such as fencepost) dependending on various factors.
> >> 
> >> > --
> >> > Sylvain
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> > -- 
> > Joshua Ginsberg <address@hidden>
> > Free Software Foundation - Senior Systems Administrator
> 
> 
> 
-- 
Joshua Ginsberg <address@hidden>
Free Software Foundation - Senior Systems Administrator