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[task #16584] Submission of StoneValley


From: Ineiev
Subject: [task #16584] Submission of StoneValley
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2024 12:06:58 -0400 (EDT)

Follow-up Comment #28, task #16584 (group administration):

On Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 08:07:11AM -0400, John Cage wrote:
> Follow-up Comment #27, task #16584 (group administration):
> 
> 
> > If the redistributors have other options, this isn't really a requirement.
> 
> > Can you quote the parts of the licenses where this is discussed?
> 
> Yes I can quote, and here it is, in the GPLv3 license.
> 
> "An interactive user interface displays “Appropriate Legal Notices” to
the
> extent that it includes a convenient and prominently visible feature that
(1)
> displays an appropriate copyright notice, and (2) tells the user that there
is
> no warranty for the work (except to the extent that warranties are
provided),
> that licensees may convey the work under this License, and how to view a
copy
> of this License. If the interface presents a list of user commands or
options,
> such as a menu, a prominent item in the list meets this criterion."

Let us recall the question: it was if including a copy of the LGPL
is a requirement.  How does this passage relates to that?

> "4. Conveying Verbatim Copies.
> 
> You may convey verbatim copies of the Program's source code as you receive
it,
> in any medium, provided that you conspicuously and appropriately publish on
> each copy an appropriate copyright notice; keep intact all notices stating
> that this License and any non-permissive terms added in accord with section
7
> apply to the code; keep intact all notices of the absence of any warranty;
and
> give all recipients a copy of this License along with the Program."

What license this paragraph refers to?

> Yes, I have read this file:(https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-howto.html)

Thank you!  I'm sorry, I have to ask you to also read
https://savannah.nongnu.org/maintenance/ValidNotices/

> There are 6 kinds of legal notices exist:
> 1) The copyright disclaimer
> 2) The copyright notice
> 3) The license files
> 4) The license notices
> 5) The startup notice
> 6) The Affero notice

I think my approach was wrong.  I should have been clearer.

The context I meant was including the legal notices as comments
in every copyrightable file the tarball contains.   As I've already
said, the copyright disclaimer isn't really a notice, it's a paper
signed by the interested parties.  Likewise, the license files can't
be such notices because (in cases like the GNU GPL or Apache 2.0)
the tarball is expected to only contain one copy of their texts
(or possibly another copy in the specific format to include
the license in the documentation).  The startup notice and the
Affero notice are displayed by the program when it runs, they
are not comments in copyrightable files.

Now you should have questions.  What are they?

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