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Speech Dispatcher 0.7 Beta -- Please help with testing
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trev . saunders |
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Speech Dispatcher 0.7 Beta -- Please help with testing |
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Tue, 27 Apr 2010 21:12:23 -0400 |
> I like the socket approach,
I don't have a problem with using sockets, the problem is the location of the
socket.
> but I guess your concern may be why Luke
> was thinking of using dbus. Still, a denial of service that requires
> users already be logged into the machine is a far smaller security
> hole. Right now, a clever hacker could most likely find a way to
> cause one of the less well maintained speech-dispatcher subsystems to
> execute arbitrary code, remotely though a wide-open TCP port. I think
> a switch to file sockets is a sensible short-term fix. One of my
> favorite tricks to play on blind guys I'm supporting in Vinux is to
> start talking to them through the speech-dispatcher TCP port. If you
> ever let me into a machine on your network, don't be surprised when
> your machines running Orca start saying the strangest things!
you are aware of the only listen on loopback option for speechd, and iptables
right?
If we assume that the user isn't an idiot, and either has speechd only listen
on loopback, or applies iptables well, then the tcp port is only available on
trusted machines. Further it is possible to have iptables do even more
filtering than just what host a packet originated at.
So here is the difference with a bit of work a local user can deny the tcp port
for use by sending huge numbers of requests, in wich case speechd will slow
down, possibly drop packets etc, but this will all make the kernel very
unhappy, because of how many packets we're sending. On the other hand the same
local user can very quickly make it so thatadminastrative action must be taken
to allow for use of speechd again, this is mostly because of the location of
the socket. You will note that ssh-agent, gpg-agent etc attach a random string
to the end of there socket names for this reason (its hard to generate all the
files needed to make a file with 6 random chars appended to the name
unavailable).
note that while I believe this to be a bug, I *don't* consider it absolutely
critical because it requires a shell on the machine.
Hope that clears up what I was saying :-)
Trev
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