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Re: Available slots

From: Kirill Kononenko
Subject: Re: Available slots
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 10:54:22 +0400

Not only you removed my from list of mentors, without reading my
email, telling that we don't want Matthias-Christian anymore, you only
don't bother to make excuses, and tell you are wrong, making your
agressive steps. You are doing a wrong thing. Just that you understand
one simple thing - people are much more important, than any code or
money even.


2009/4/15 Kirill Kononenko <address@hidden>:
> Ok. So Micah you removed me from the list of mentors? Well, as you
> want. But I really require excuses from you, because it is you who
> remove applications without consulting with other people. All these
> scores are not important. I think it is you who should be removed from
> list of organization admins.
> Thanks,
> Kirill
> 2009/4/15 Kirill Kononenko <address@hidden>:
>>>>>> Note though that this scoring down/unassigning *has* to be done by the
>>>>>> organisation who gives the student up. The student can't make the
>>>>>> selection himself. The student can be included in the discussion, but
>>>>>> ultimately the yielding organisation has to make sure he is no longer
>>>>>> among the top-ranked proposals, or the conflict won't be resolved. The
>>>>>> duplicate resolution meeting is the very latest occasion to do this --
>>>>>> but if the situation is clear beforehand, it should be done earlier.
>>>>> The above rather sounds like it is up to us to decide whether to keep
>>>>> the student - whether or not he has indicated preference for another
>>>>> project. It is true that the action to take in reducing the ranking is
>>>>> ours, and not the students: however, it has been made quite clear that
>>>>> the student _must_ (not "should") be consulted, and that if they make a
>>>>> choice we are expected to comply. If, as Klaus had indicated (off-list),
>>>>> and also NetBSD has indicated on the mentors list, Matthias-Chris has
>>>>> opted for NetBSD, it is inappropriate for us to keep him in our top
>>>>> rankings. We need to hear _now_ if the situation is other than as it has
>>>>> been represented to be, otherwise he should be immediately ranked below
>>>>> the top eight.
>>>> I am sorry but not everyone lives in the American timing zone. So to
>>>> "hear _now_ is too strong."
>>> It cannot possibly be too strong. Now means "now". As in, the absolute,
>>> final resolution meeting takes place in (at this point) a matter of hours.
>>>> I think the only reason I see to reject
>>>> Matthias-Christian is:
>>> Matthias-Christian was not rejected, he explicitly chose to go another
>>> direction, as I've said more than once already. There really should not
>>> be further discussion past that: as I pointed out before, the person to
>>> take it up with is _him_. Until the situation changes (and I submit that
>>> it's too late at this point to be trying to change this), we _must_
>>> remove him from our slots (and this has in fact been done).
>> Okay. No problem with me about Matthias-Christian. I think our group
>> is not really found to work with Matthias-Christian anyways. I am
>> personally not found to work with this again anymore. The guy is only
>> an opportunist who is afraid of doing a real work.  Even if we take
>> him, he will not work with us later, because he is only doing this for
>> money and even very little money. I see no sense of our group to
>> invest our precious time in him.
>> Thanks,
>> Kirill

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