Re: [Texmacs-dev] Keyboard handling

[David Allouche]

On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 06:41:46PM +0200, Joris van der Hoeven wrote:
> > 
> > The problems are:
> > 
> >     Multiple [escape] are not bound to [A-] and [H-] modifiers, and
> >     generally all those definitions seem to be ignored:
> > 
> >     (set-post-wildcards
> >       ("escape" "M-" #t)
> >       ("escape escape" "A-" #t)
> >       ("escape escape escape" "H-" #t)
> >       ("escape escape escape escape" "noop" #t)
> >       ("A-C-" "H-" #t)
> >       ("H-" "F5" #t)
> >       ("H-C-" "F6" #t)
> >       ("H-C-S-" "S-F6" #t)
> >       ("H-A-" "F7" #t)
> >       ("H-M-" "F8" #t)
> 
> I do not have this impression: on my keyboard escape yields M,
> escape escape yields A and escape escape escape yields H
> (which starts emphasized text in text mode).

Here, escape yields M-, esccape espace yields M-, escape escape escape
yields M-, and so on...

Mh... I also tried A-C-a in math to insert <alpha> in math mode, it
did not work. Now it works again.

> >     math:x prefix defined to be F5..F8 are not applied. That is even
> >     visible from the tooltips of the greek, bold, etc. menus.
> > 
> >     [A-] shortcuts for accents are disabled, yet [M-] shortcuts for
> >     accents do work. I made sure that was not a pb of modifier
> >     configuration by looking at the feedback in the window footer.
> 
> I did not notice this either; please be more specific.

That works again too :-(


> > Well... there are probably more, but that is all I have found for the
> > moment.
> > 
> > Other complaints:
> > 
> >     I have not redefined caps-lock (it keeps its std behaviour) and I
> >     noticed it still behave like SHIFT w.r.t. to shortcuts, which is
> >     BAD!
> 
> How do you want caps-lock to behave?

As documented there:

    http://alqua.com/tmresources/bug%20-%20Caps-Lock%20is%20shift


> >     Also, there are still shortcuts which read "M-C" instead of
> >     "M-S-c" which is just confusing.
> 
> I prefer M-C, which may be confusing, yet it is unambiguous.

I am no willing to get into that discussion again. Being inambiguous
and being obvious are unambiguously different problems whose
difference you obviously do not see. You think you know how to design
keyboard shortcuts and menus better than the folks at Apple and
Microsoft, fine.


> > There a probably more goodies, too bad changes in the code are so
> > badly advertised.
> 
> You volunteer for writing documentation?

I was not whining about the documentation. I was whining about the
poorness of the changelog.

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