Re: [Texmacs-dev] working around arXiv' overshoot

[TeXmacs]

Hi Jeroen,

Thanks, great; please send us feedback whenever you have news about your pull 
request.

Best wishes, --Joris


On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 10:44:34PM +0000, Jeroen Wouters wrote:
> Hello Joris,
> 
> It seems that someone at arXiv actually used one of your papers to test
> their expressions on:
> https://github.com/arXiv/arxiv-submission-core/blob/ARXIVNG-2885/core/arxiv/submission/process/checks/test_files_tex_produced/sparsemult6.pdf
> 
> That specific paper was written in TeXmacs 1.0.7.2, which has in the
> Creator string "TeXmacs-1.0.7.2" (note the dash).
> 
> More recent versions use a space to before the version number, though,
> e.g. "TeXmacs 1.99.20". If those metadata fields are changed to
> "TeXmacs-1.99.20", then it is accepted. Since the number 1 is
> explicitly in their regex, this doesn't work for 2.1.
> 
> I have created a pull request to update the regex:
> https://github.com/arXiv/arxiv-submission-core/pull/85/files
> 
> Best wishes,
> Jeroen
> 
> On Sat, 2021-11-20 at 23:34 +0100, TeXmacs wrote:
> > Thanks Jeroen, for finding this useful information.
> > So with the 1.* versions, ArXiv actually did accept TeXmacs, lately?
> > 
> > Maybe the person(s) who recontact ArXiv could just suggest to
> > change the regular expression into
> > 
> >     regex3 = re.compile(br"^(Creator|Producer).*TeX(?!(t|macs-
> > ))",re.IGNORECASE)
> > 
> > Best wishes, --Joris
> > 
> > 
> > On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 04:29:31PM +0000, Jeroen Wouters wrote:
> > > Dear all,
> > > 
> > > It seems that at least some of the code on Github is, in fact, in
> > > use.
> > > Specifically, there's the following regular expression [1]:
> > > 
> > >     regex3 = re.compile(br"^(Creator|Producer).*TeX(?!(t|macs-1\.))",
> > > re.IGNORECASE)
> > > 
> > > This excludes strings like "TeXmacs-1.xx.xx". I've tested this on the
> > > arXiv with PDFs with "TeXmacs-1.99.20" as both Creator and Producer
> > > and
> > > they do go through the checks!
> > > 
> > > Note that there has to be a dash between "TeXmacs" and "1.". Looking
> > > at
> > > some of my older PDFs made in 1.99.20, the Creator and Producer
> > > fields
> > > are actually "TeXmacs 1.99.xx", hence they don't get through the
> > > checks
> > > without modifying the metadata.
> > > 
> > > Best wishes,
> > > Jeroen
> > > 
> > > [1]
> > > https://github.com/arXiv/arxiv-submission-core/blob/647be11c8e5409107371699586271dfabdf9b15e/core/arxiv/submission/process/checks/tex_produced/__init__.py#L214
> > > 
> > > On Sat, 2021-11-20 at 13:58 +0100, TeXmacs wrote:
> > > > Dear all,
> > > > 
> > > > Maybe we can move the technical ArXiv discussion to texmacs-dev.
> > > > It is a very interesting one, but end-users only need to know how
> > > > they can participate to the petition, once we worked out
> > > > the precise steps that are needed for this.
> > > > 
> > > > Best wishes, --Joris
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 12:07:22PM +0000, Frank wrote:
> > > > > No, there is no such statement, but I inferred it from their
> > > > > attitudes.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > Frank
> > > > > 
> > > > > 于 2021年11月20日 UTC 上午11:48:25, Giovanni Piredda
> > > > > <pireddag@posteo.de>
> > > > > 写到:
> > > > > > I did not find that statement in the linked page. Where is it?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > G.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On 20.11.21 12:45, Frank wrote:
> > > > > > > And it looks like they would not accept PR before receiving
> > > > > > > responses from help:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > https://github.com/arXiv/arxiv-submission-core/issues/80
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > Frank
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 于 2021年11月20日 UTC 上午11:41:14, Frank <sci.frank@gmail.com> 写到:
> > > > > > > > I am not familiar with git, but seemingly this code is not
> > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > the default branch (develop). How is that working?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > Frank
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 于 2021年11月20日 UTC 上午11:20:38, Giovanni Piredda
> > > > > > > > <pireddag@posteo.de> 写到:
> > > > > > > > > On 20.11.21 12:14, Giovanni Piredda wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On 20.11.21 12:07, Frank wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Meanwhile, I searched among the source code, but I
> > > > > > > > > > > failed
> > > > > > > > > > > to locate
> > > > > > > > > > > the checker. There is a line related:
> > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/arXiv/arxiv-submission-ui/blob/5cd67e15db72bb8aa4acf686fb3aa8b41727580a/submit/controllers/ui/new/process.py#L202
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > but I don't see where the code could raise an error
> > > > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > reason
> > > > > > > > > > > containing "from TeX", say, in
> > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/arXiv/arxiv-submission-core/blob/develop/core/arxiv/submission/process/process_source.py
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Perhaps there is some code here:
> > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/arXiv/arxiv-submission-core/pull/77
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > e.g. here
> > > > > > > > > https://github.com/arXiv/arxiv-submission-core/pull/77/commits/647be11c8e5409107371699586271dfabdf9b15e
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I do not know whether this pull request is part of the
> > > > > > > > > current code (I
> > > > > > > > > need to learn how to check for that) and which place this
> > > > > > > > > part takes in
> > > > > > > > > the overall code.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > 
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