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Re: Simplest ssh line


From: Michael Albinus
Subject: Re: Simplest ssh line
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 15:56:34 +0200
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積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <address@hidden> writes:

Hi Dan,

> The problem is the way the manual is worded, the user thinks that tramp
> _does not_ use any of the ssh shortcut notations. The manual says "the
> shortest way".

I don't know what you are speaking on. "shortcut" is not used in the ssh
man pages (with one exception about proxy jumps, which do not matter for
Tramp). So there's nothing to say about.

> In fact now that you say that it does use the ssh shortcuts, I find
> C-x C-f /ssh:jidanni.org: indeed works for me, (but
> C-x C-f /ssh:jidanni.org
> doesn't).

Are you kidding? You know, that "/ssh:jidanni.org" is not a valid Tramp name.

> So please mention that one can almost do just like one does when doing
> $ ssh ...
> else users will think according to the manual it won't work, and not
> even try it, and instead just use the long versions. Thanks.

You lost me, sorry. The Tramp manual is not about ssh commands; and it
tries to avoid underlying command details (not only for ssh). It would
be all too much. 

For example, "ssh host" can behave different, depending on your
.ssh/config. Tramp won't explain all these details, this is left to the
ssh manuals.

So I don't see what needs to be changed. Pls show me *errors* in the
Tramp manual, and I will fix. That's it.

Best regards, Michael.



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