From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Oct 01 05:44:20 2018 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1g6ukW-0004eC-1W for mharc-bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2018 05:44:20 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50295) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g6ukS-0004cQ-V1 for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2018 05:44:17 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g6ukR-0007lC-4Q for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2018 05:44:16 -0400 Received: from mail-wr1-x436.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::436]:38512) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g6ukM-0007iS-C7; Mon, 01 Oct 2018 05:44:10 -0400 Received: by mail-wr1-x436.google.com with SMTP id a13-v6so2431920wrt.5; Mon, 01 Oct 2018 02:44:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=U/u0QlvD1nK1bjRi2OpGScThU1pW2TuGU54jaHkvcKw=; b=oZShwPGM1MlUDH1ZklLNFMFW5G+Ss1fkNSrd/NsyalC/3hLgCScYIVS0VL74VvFOAB 1KPo7BzsqZxWoPYabd9a/Lfi37dg0K7Z3rVakDA7i3qpYzjK/qkn972OtZvCno8Lq8oh HqTGwxBTlJM7so6uzXJ9cUTmWrkYRui4vHTNOGQS/gK9LMPi3VjO050dY974fvhbAlo/ /5xOQ+7TJnkllk6en0vF0ud7EcK0IG6WvAZicx7pQwVTMxvbiuVQLv8lUOtCnYN538m+ ycsJVGKbCpcTbKJkfK7VB5agehdOVUEHVHo44OffU6aVDGEzw6m380Un0wkNLVlQ/Aam OCHg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=U/u0QlvD1nK1bjRi2OpGScThU1pW2TuGU54jaHkvcKw=; b=ojL0LE5AFMrdQUNQJnYKvGU3fMNL0lVqTmBLcgXfwxIztmR7SiLYko8t6mCKcJQ8fW nuupbI7PZCD7K9e0HA47wmcN7eHBAQqSBVFI7r403e1DW3hrlmqZfUDumSl9MY1AsOVw S5xgmj07NDS6ttHYArgGMP0hCVrv53/UEMBJW9FHrDidfW7SjbdS0HJVQIbAVSvpqA8b suvLwZ3ZXc6dq7WMn1S1HPhAW822pk/MHIxd2E8d9nj3di8KVG/EzXAVV6u2tl2JAGVf rdSmb40izHSwFpfFHnjrZw972/DKlKWnma2ZtLVrLQnbveMKAlGVQKGsigrdLTw+ygfo psUg== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfogB0M73bXEkankOdY8a+Z0WGWw194GUWBH0vZiVLO8xZx8Gq7Hn 3AdE9xl7fslGuZcgN0Zw8xsKb278U8Szb1vl8w7jY5BA X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV63vCOkcSqrf0S8oaaKgOWOdlzYwGTVA8iAKuxVMy3fcqbU1t4Wj60PB6imxNGjrNnWNS4qOvS+UiV04txyfrWE= X-Received: by 2002:adf:da43:: with SMTP id r3-v6mr3689467wrl.221.1538387048956; Mon, 01 Oct 2018 02:44:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <87tvm7no4l.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87pnwvnl2a.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k1n2o9bo.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <87k1n2o9bo.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> From: Thomas Morley Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 11:43:53 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Wrong letter in title To: David Kastrup Cc: bug-lilypond Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::436 X-BeenThere: bug-lilypond@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond Bug Reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2018 09:44:18 -0000 Am Mo., 1. Okt. 2018 um 01:37 Uhr schrieb David Kastrup : > > Thomas Morley writes: > > > Am So., 30. Sep. 2018 um 15:59 Uhr schrieb David Kastrup : > > > >> Tracker issue: 5422 (https://sourceforge.net/p/testlilyissues/issues/5= 422/) > >> Rietveld issue: 345090043 (https://codereview.appspot.com/345090043) > >> Issue description: > >> Escape nul, cr, newline in PDF metadata > >> > >> I wasn't really aware that the strings remain pure 8-bit strings on > >> input and the UTF16 interpretation is private business of the pdfmark > >> command. So thanks for that pointer, allowing to tackle this fairly > >> long-known bug. > > > > Hi David, > > > > I tested your patch with a .ly-file containing > > \header { title =3D "foo=C3=BC=C4=8C=C4=8D" } > > checking meta-data with exiftool. > > > > With 2.19.82: > > Title : foo=EF=BF=BD=C4=8C=C4=8D > > > > Recent master: > > Title : foo=C3=BC=C4=8C=C4=8D > > > > Recent master with guile-2.0.14 and the patches from branch guile-v2-wo= rk: > > Title : foo=C3=BC=C4=8C=C4=8D > > > > Recent master with guile-2.2.4 and the patches from branch > > guile-v2-work and some others: > > Title : ??foo?.... > > > > Looks like a change in guile-2.2.x, so ly:encode-string-for-pdf does > > not work as before. > > Well, then we should try to make it work again if possible. > > > But enabling the commented code in 'handle-metadata', i.e.: > > > > (use-modules (ice-9 iconv)) > > (use-modules (rnrs bytevectors)) > > ;;; Create DOCINFO pdfmark containing metadata > > ;;; header fields with pdf prefix override those without the prefix > > (define (handle-metadata header port) > > (define (metadata-encode val) > > ;; First, call ly:encode-string-for-pdf to encode the string (latin= 1 or > > ;; utf-16be), then escape all parentheses and backslashes > > ;; > > ;; NOTE: with guile-2.0+ ly:encode-string-for-pdf is not really nee= ded and > > ;; could be replaced. > > ;; For guile-2.2.+ this is a 'must do' > > ;; > > (ps-quote > > (let* ((utf16be-bom #vu8(#xFE #xFF))) > > (string-append (bytevector->string utf16be-bom "ISO-8859-1") > > (bytevector->string (string->utf16 val 'big) > > "ISO-8859-1"))))) > > ...) > > > > Returns > > Title : foo=C3=BC=C4=8C=C4=8D > > as desired. > > > > I tried to create something like below with a guile-v2-condition: > > > > (use-modules (ice-9 iconv)) > > (use-modules (rnrs bytevectors)) > > ;;; Create DOCINFO pdfmark containing metadata > > ;;; header fields with pdf prefix override those without the prefix > > (define (handle-metadata header port) > > (define (metadata-encode val) > > ;; First, call ly:encode-string-for-pdf to encode the string (latin= 1 or > > ;; utf-16be), then escape all parentheses and backslashes > > ;; > > ;; NOTE: with guile-2.0+ ly:encode-string-for-pdf is not really nee= ded and > > ;; could be replaced. > > ;; For guile-2.2.+ this is a 'must do' > > ;; > > (ps-quote > > (if guile-v2 > > (let* ((utf16be-bom #vu8(#xFE #xFF))) > > (string-append (bytevector->string utf16be-bom "ISO-8859-1"= ) > > (bytevector->string (string->utf16 val > > 'big) "ISO-8859-1"))) > > (ly:encode-string-for-pdf val)))) > > > > ...) > > > > > > Though, this does not work, because guile-1.8 would issue an error > > about the unknown syntax. > > You can always write something like #vu8(#xFE #xFF) as a function call > rather than as "read syntax". Don't understand. Could you give a code-example? > > Any chance to create something which will work in guilev1 and guilev2? > > I think the sane perspective would be fixing the problem where it > appears rather than at some later point of time. Agreed. Though, to fix ly:encode-string-for-pdf, some C++-work is requiered, which is beyond my capabilities. Cheers, Harm From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Oct 01 06:08:34 2018 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1g6v7y-0000z3-Np for mharc-bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2018 06:08:34 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55434) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g6v7w-0000yl-69 for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2018 06:08:33 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g6v7r-0003JS-PG for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2018 06:08:31 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:53590) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g6v7r-0003JO-LG; Mon, 01 Oct 2018 06:08:27 -0400 Received: from x5ce2cc07.dyn.telefonica.de ([92.226.204.7]:50722 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1g6v7r-0002Ez-5E; Mon, 01 Oct 2018 06:08:27 -0400 From: David Kastrup To: Thomas Morley Cc: bug-lilypond Subject: Re: Wrong letter in title References: <87tvm7no4l.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87pnwvnl2a.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k1n2o9bo.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2018 12:08:23 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Thomas Morley's message of "Mon, 1 Oct 2018 11:43:53 +0200") Message-ID: <87ftxqnfmw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: bug-lilypond@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond Bug Reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2018 10:08:33 -0000 Thomas Morley writes: [...] >> > ;; >> > (ps-quote >> > (if guile-v2 >> > (let* ((utf16be-bom #vu8(#xFE #xFF))) >> > (string-append (bytevector->string utf16be-bom "ISO-8859-1") >> > (bytevector->string (string->utf16 val >> > 'big) "ISO-8859-1"))) >> > (ly:encode-string-for-pdf val)))) >> > >> > ...) >> > >> > >> > Though, this does not work, because guile-1.8 would issue an error >> > about the unknown syntax. >> >> You can always write something like #vu8(#xFE #xFF) as a function call >> rather than as "read syntax". > > Don't understand. Could you give a code-example? (u8-list->bytevector '(#xFE #xFF)) >> > Any chance to create something which will work in guilev1 and guilev2? >> >> I think the sane perspective would be fixing the problem where it >> appears rather than at some later point of time. > > Agreed. > Though, to fix ly:encode-string-for-pdf, some C++-work is requiered, > which is beyond my capabilities. Sure, but the 2.0/2.2 differences will have more pressing consequences elsewhere. Document metadata is not the highest priority and may even "happen" to be fixed as a side effect of other fixes. -- David Kastrup From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Oct 01 15:27:13 2018 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1g73qb-0006Ra-5b for mharc-bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2018 15:27:13 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55665) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g73qY-0006QS-53 for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2018 15:27:11 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g73qX-0004Jw-7s for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2018 15:27:10 -0400 Received: from mail-wm1-x329.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::329]:50201) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g73qW-0004Fe-2V; Mon, 01 Oct 2018 15:27:08 -0400 Received: by mail-wm1-x329.google.com with SMTP id s12-v6so9966325wmc.0; Mon, 01 Oct 2018 12:27:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=2Y1qQSWYSaNtK28pr2CxZQiuh8Bs1aO/fQ+5sTnQ0Ws=; b=odBxsPmuMTM0SLy3iHMWDY51h0SHlU9qECNdWLvZUYf08JZbEy7OBbpcwTg6Bhyyk2 338hPKlpcLpVxo4yVXUiuPCXfNP5WngDfJf0qZAw9x+Go3rCT31CMSS9JVTmIuXG8S+X EWYupDjJ17GQvfcJtCAfWYOpgcByUVNU6ZAKKYulpTsnRm/7JKYqRbvGpG2ixa8eWRGr qLO0zPTWjWkgoq8XAxRxJxnKuNs3t3oBtzYt+du9m9BSgdh5gOLBc0ltGGHuckp1PRqw DOsFYB2wqRp8viHRvr/OZzMlgArHnz3PU2dKKpxGxfGzti/u1noW4842hxJsh7RbxY3Y HukQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=2Y1qQSWYSaNtK28pr2CxZQiuh8Bs1aO/fQ+5sTnQ0Ws=; b=UF2y9ruGAT9lhpGaZGLejXpCFT5/iieIJy0Qn9Eg80D6Mf97/a4rI17Oz/9sS7g7RI rhYcyT/LrtNrdyAeRWEYs6q3nfp5Ja/7EfwrN8VcVulh+4u/vHmBojQaGs5wKVS7WQG2 eviqdCeV64dfU9Hu00Olw860MP9ZOnlNxL4KTfc8Ccumy6yftRcNDA6knqtLeU/g43Q5 ri4Ns3gxZzFEnz9Zb58bJDQLBbS5rkw5gXliRq7VLpRP1yddse5tM/ljKfPMN9QhXeY9 pPMD6Bq3km4xShmLFQWr6VZw6Kv4hrlcl/sSlds3Qp8jBLqD/pozohB5WXRiAW8Tw1Zs PBVA== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfohBF5wxjNxtNhU4VJAqo5KausQn0gmKuRf+0dbKePEnCDX+KK1y PGC3G/CkcO1cEZwzE50eKjkXzd3Tsk8+KfzCMjGh+g8l X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV60EmudamP72OOVN5IucvHp0LSVgF5NjESvj+7IuRl9vZoLpXOoTtx8aprw8Nj/chcyCF0FEU2PKLn6JuXSlyt0= X-Received: by 2002:a1c:cc0e:: with SMTP id h14-v6mr9034894wmb.2.1538422026390; Mon, 01 Oct 2018 12:27:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <87tvm7no4l.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87pnwvnl2a.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k1n2o9bo.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87ftxqnfmw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <87ftxqnfmw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> From: Thomas Morley Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 21:26:50 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Wrong letter in title To: David Kastrup Cc: bug-lilypond Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::329 X-BeenThere: bug-lilypond@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond Bug Reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2018 19:27:11 -0000 Am Mo., 1. Okt. 2018 um 12:08 Uhr schrieb David Kastrup : > > Thomas Morley writes: > > [...] > > >> > ;; > >> > (ps-quote > >> > (if guile-v2 > >> > (let* ((utf16be-bom #vu8(#xFE #xFF))) > >> > (string-append (bytevector->string utf16be-bom "ISO-8859-1") > >> > (bytevector->string (string->utf16 val > >> > 'big) "ISO-8859-1"))) > >> > (ly:encode-string-for-pdf val)))) > >> > > >> > ...) > >> > > >> > > >> > Though, this does not work, because guile-1.8 would issue an error > >> > about the unknown syntax. > >> > >> You can always write something like #vu8(#xFE #xFF) as a function call > >> rather than as "read syntax". > > > > Don't understand. Could you give a code-example? > > (u8-list->bytevector '(#xFE #xFF)) Works. Many thanks! For the record here the code working with guile-1.8 and guile-2.2.4: (if (guile-v2) (use-modules (ice-9 iconv) (rnrs bytevectors))) ;;; Create DOCINFO pdfmark containing metadata ;;; header fields with pdf prefix override those without the prefix (define (handle-metadata header port) (define (metadata-encode val) ;; First, call ly:encode-string-for-pdf to encode the string (latin1 or ;; utf-16be), then escape all parentheses and backslashes ;; ;; NOTE: with guile-2.0+ ly:encode-string-for-pdf is not really needed and ;; could be replaced. ;; For guile-2.2.+ this is a 'must do' ;; (ps-quote (if (guile-v2) (let* (;(utf16be-bom #vu8(#xFE #xFF)) (utf16be-bom (u8-list->bytevector '(#xFE #xFF))) ) (string-append (bytevector->string utf16be-bom "ISO-8859-1") (bytevector->string (string->utf16 val 'big) "ISO-8859-1"))) (ly:encode-string-for-pdf val)))) ...) > > >> > Any chance to create something which will work in guilev1 and guilev2? > >> > >> I think the sane perspective would be fixing the problem where it > >> appears rather than at some later point of time. > > > > Agreed. > > Though, to fix ly:encode-string-for-pdf, some C++-work is requiered, > > which is beyond my capabilities. > > Sure, but the 2.0/2.2 differences will have more pressing consequences > elsewhere. Document metadata is not the highest priority and may even > "happen" to be fixed as a side effect of other fixes. We already know the problems with guile-2.0.x. With guile-2._2_.x (currently I use 2.2.4) the list gets more entries: - ly:protects doesn't work any more - message/warnings about missing (ice-9 threads) - not working special characters in file-names. (Not sure whether it's already a problem with guile-2.0.x) - meta-data with special characters I've already tried some experimental fixes for the first three problems. See attachment to http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-lilypond/2018-06/msg00011.html patch 13-15 The code above is at least a work around for the last problem. Are there other known problems new with guile-2.2.x (not yet known with guile-2.0.x)? Thanks, Harm - From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Oct 06 14:31:54 2018 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1g8rMo-0008Lv-L4 for mharc-bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Oct 2018 14:31:54 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59329) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g8rMm-0008Jp-Re for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Oct 2018 14:31:53 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g8rMi-0007b3-SS for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Oct 2018 14:31:52 -0400 Received: from gateway24.websitewelcome.com ([192.185.51.162]:12563) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g8rMi-00077C-N2 for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Oct 2018 14:31:48 -0400 Received: from cm10.websitewelcome.com (cm10.websitewelcome.com [100.42.49.4]) by gateway24.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 524E616911 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2018 13:31:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from leaf.websitewelcome.com ([192.185.82.99]) by cmsmtp with SMTP id 8rMKgd91ZBcCX8rMKgwpOa; 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Received: from [10.9.9.127] (helo=rmmprod05.runbox) by mailtransmit02.runbox with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g8s0G-0007i9-BM; Sat, 06 Oct 2018 21:12:40 +0200 Received: from mail by rmmprod05.runbox with local (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g8s0G-0000pY-9y; Sat, 06 Oct 2018 21:12:40 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [Authenticated user (896525)] by runbox.com with http (RMM6); Sat, 06 Oct 2018 19:12:40 GMT From: "James Lowe" To: "Devon Sean McCullough" , "bug-lilypond" Subject: Re: obstacles to installation Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2018 20:12:40 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: RMM6 In-Reply-To: <62946260-6ED1-43BA-A5D2-FA30EF1BE2BE@jovi.net> Message-Id: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 91.220.196.211 X-BeenThere: bug-lilypond@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond Bug Reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2018 19:16:05 -0000 Hello Devon. On Sat, 6 Oct 2018 14:31:23 -0400, Devon Sean McCullough wrote: > These instructions lead nowhere, making it hard to install: >=20 > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/topdocs/INSTALL.html > 404 http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/topdocs/web#download >=20 > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond > 404 http://post.gmane.org/post.php?group=3Dgmane.comp.gnu.lilypond.bugs >=20 > Peace > --Devon That's not really much information for me to be of any help to you. However if all you want is a download (binary) Try here: http://lilypond.org/download.html The link you gave: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/topdocs/INSTALL.html Works for me but this is really if you want to compile the source. If you *do* want to do that and are having problems compiling or getting so= urce, then give us some more details and we'll do what we can to help. James From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Oct 07 02:18:04 2018 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1g92OC-0005fj-1e for mharc-bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2018 02:18:04 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37036) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g92O6-0005fD-Bp for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2018 02:18:02 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g92M3-0002Mx-Sv for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2018 02:15:55 -0400 Received: from perdizione.investici.org ([2001:41d0:2:33d0::19]:24912) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g92M3-0002JM-JS for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Oct 2018 02:15:51 -0400 Received: from [94.23.50.208] (perdizione [94.23.50.208]) (Authenticated sender: fede@inventati.org) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DB65E140220; Sun, 7 Oct 2018 06:15:45 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=inventati.org; s=stigmate; t=1538892946; bh=+bsbIe9sGcE3WarB3LPFm1zNO1KGD34a6UWZJewu2Go=; h=Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References; b=DuEumaK4KLDLDEMxyBeRw3WhkZ2Ih3KN6tucULaRLIhBWsk7zbkpFcv4lHQp3zOUU 8t8+cNsZPmfA3QLzvtkkiSyqcWekD4ZV2tPpOJI4AgOlOhcWyq2Nvgrmmsgc0AYZk7 OAmQXwjGEjmxpyzvMHgtIzdev3BX5QoLGkZ+4RDc= Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2018 08:15:44 +0200 From: Federico Bruni Subject: Re: obstacles to installation To: James Lowe Cc: Devon Sean McCullough , bug-lilypond Message-Id: <1538892945.2545.0@smtp.autistici.org> In-Reply-To: References: <62946260-6ED1-43BA-A5D2-FA30EF1BE2BE@jovi.net> X-Mailer: geary/master~gc1bc3ee9 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2001:41d0:2:33d0::19 X-BeenThere: bug-lilypond@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond Bug Reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2018 06:18:02 -0000 Il giorno sab 6 ott 2018 alle 21:12, James Lowe ha scritto: > Hello Devon. > > On Sat, 6 Oct 2018 14:31:23 -0400, Devon Sean McCullough > wrote: > >> These instructions lead nowhere, making it hard to install: >> >> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/topdocs/INSTALL.html >> >> 404 http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/topdocs/web#download >> >> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond >> >> 404 http://post.gmane.org/post.php?group=gmane.comp.gnu.lilypond.bugs >> >> Peace >> --Devon > > That's not really much information for me to be of any help to you. > > James, 404 is page not found. In fact if you go to the first link and click on Download under 1.1 paragraph, you'll get to the second link, which is not found. BTW, if you google "lilypond install", that is the second page listed after downloads page. The file Documentation/topdocs/INSTALL.texi includes Documentation/included/compile.itexi, where you can see: Pre-compiled binaries are available on the @rweb{Download} page. so the @rweb{Download} is expanding to web#download relative to current directory (Documentation/topdocs). I don't know why it's not using the correct path... $ git grep "@*{Download}" Documentation/included/compile.itexi:31:are available on the @rweb{Download} page. Documentation/web/news-old.itexi:3199:@ref{Download}. 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Let me remind you that Google might not give identical search results to different persons/computers even when they type the exacts same search string. If I type "Lilypond" I get stuff related to our beloved engraving software. Google "knows" I am a musician. Someone else will probably first find something like http://www.lilypond.nl which is about ... lilyponds and swimmingpools. :-) MT From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Oct 11 03:33:36 2018 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1gAVTS-0001sH-3z for mharc-bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 03:33:35 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52164) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAVTP-0001s7-Pg for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 03:33:32 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAVTO-0005a4-T9 for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 03:33:31 -0400 Received: from mail-io1-xd36.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::d36]:39737) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAVTO-0005Zq-NB for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 03:33:30 -0400 Received: by mail-io1-xd36.google.com with SMTP id z16-v6so5881720iol.6 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 00:33:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=q2c6X/jgMPeQrFh9occCejdPcn4jsj10Aaz359N2Qqk=; b=oxHYbRTlIk0+dTJ88Tug8TvboXUAR5BdO6UPgsVQcpOpNZIjhx9/D69mSYuSczJSdf czZuYhYiakWZt4Zu+/6Y84Ck/hJVEpnwHYrsN2FoIT3Y8xNQxPUhX4XQrxbLpZXbMH4s NvyntVJRya3OrK3HLzck9YFXvNo8gJ1WRIAwWwFNDMCEpVuavMhdXdgkuC4PgjVLrnKV r5qIi2wrggXiy1+8+kf3C9tg09eT28bk4yprjtgkVIK2v7wa+i731v0JoN2S25pRqTJe iGPJQicd2tj2GIwHCmDSjqp85SvyvAexLcJX1MhVcBj0CKe2Uk6LoJ+gvYtyJUVbKolQ FpbQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=q2c6X/jgMPeQrFh9occCejdPcn4jsj10Aaz359N2Qqk=; b=WCh54/sgcTUDb4+e0QB0KTlm9Oojjv6dkMumgp5sU1VCu8OJvMutMMUsAKgY5Hwl/l NTIyD69sNBX69ArGTTRZn9ue6QAL6ZhDsjBAGcYWw7Wq/QTir1r8bbPkC9VPD1PbI+SK CXQuQ18L76mD+ZtXXyT3/uvjoz3Af3dtR8jeGrjwT+bJtBtI+gQFQd9X/EIYxXW+bOc2 5rifUqM8Tyt3N0NbfqXlKQ8K6QcG0XEaICcFusdToerOMJhjcq2MPdwssOswNGsKb4xb zu6Yad8rc4Nl/XoGh9WUIROIP75xdK5p9HztupCUWKiuhNMRfH9uEfYEGkO/gpgUznTd xwfA== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfogWHvTuMxJ24oeXfnIQbN8i00L93aX9Audvmhl+Wop9kWzpo1Nv TJ/YEzlf9P9j3hKeyERKGVhbGMD3GU2EgB667Zj6LreE X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV63sgVjvjUhOvyMA5gwpH831YiX10DU8x/ekIbJMfz0PUd8RsDe09R1ygcUNoCtjRQWVTtYWZDiks8EzQHkt3C4= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:7f48:: with SMTP id m8-v6mr296679ioq.16.1539243209671; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 00:33:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Raitis Veinbahs Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 10:33:11 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Very long PDFs with 2.19.80, \chord and #ly:one-page-breaking To: bug-lilypond@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::d36 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: bug-lilypond@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond Bug Reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 07:33:32 -0000 Hi, Here's the tiny showcase: \version "2.19" \book { \paper { page-breaking = #ly:one-page-breaking } \score { << \relative c { c } \chords { c } >> } } % lilypond --version GNU LilyPond 2.19.80 Can you reproduce this? --- Regards, Raitis Veinbahs From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Oct 11 05:34:31 2018 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1gAXMV-0003Dx-Pz for mharc-bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 05:34:31 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54895) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAXMU-0003DI-3m for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 05:34:30 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAXMP-0005ev-UF for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 05:34:29 -0400 Received: from outbound-relay6.guardedhost.com ([216.239.133.206]:54381) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAXMF-0005WD-DO for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 05:34:19 -0400 Received: from mail.guardedhost.com (mx04.guardedhost.com [IPv6:2607:fe90:1:1::55:1]) by outbound-relay5.guardedhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42W5Q35f54z1ZHl for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 09:34:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail.omnis.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:fe90:1:1::a3:3]) (Authenticated sender: hillvisions@hillvisions.com) by mail.guardedhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 42W5Q26fgXz4xQLp for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 09:34:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from c-67-170-72-177.hsd1.wa.comcast.net ([67.170.72.177]) by webmail.omnis.com with HTTP (HTTP/1.1 POST); Thu, 11 Oct 2018 09:34:02 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 02:34:02 -0700 From: Aaron Hill To: bug-lilypond@gnu.org Subject: Re: Very long PDFs with 2.19.80, \chord and #ly:one-page-breaking In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7d6a52da0631eca8c6c1bc9f4db962da@hillvisions.com> X-Sender: lilypond@hillvisions.com User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.3.6 Authentication-Results: mail.guardedhost.com;auth=pass X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse-Id: CA889F36-CD38-11E8-8151-B1B155AB470A X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 216.239.133.206 X-BeenThere: bug-lilypond@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond Bug Reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 09:34:31 -0000 On 2018-10-11 12:33 am, Raitis Veinbahs wrote: > Hi, > > Here's the tiny showcase: > > \version "2.19" > > \book { > \paper { page-breaking = #ly:one-page-breaking } > \score { << \relative c { c } \chords { c } >> } > } > > % lilypond --version > GNU LilyPond 2.19.80 Repros on 2.19.48 (lilybin.com) Repros on 2.19.82 (local Linux 64 build) Interestingly, PNG 200dpi cropped is 164x137069 but only 291KB. Good compression. ;-) -- Aaron Hill From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Oct 11 05:38:11 2018 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1gAXQ2-000507-UO for mharc-bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 05:38:10 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55885) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAXPv-0004wN-Ej for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 05:38:09 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAXPt-0007FM-Kq for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 05:38:03 -0400 Received: from mail-ed1-x533.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::533]:43683) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAXPt-0007FA-Dm for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 05:38:01 -0400 Received: by mail-ed1-x533.google.com with SMTP id y20-v6so7612175eds.10 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 02:38:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=IWbVXN9rnjs/uCw0306me9bGZzTAIoFm9tySFL+imks=; b=ljx7aCnqVDfoYRkmg+fOd07Qls+f0Pm9LNtrI+wYl4r3FpSXHzd6yVWxOA6KCApoLM 9vMljTLwbpDfX62BGxKw81+8kWYpw3Wsg1mhTg7SYv0Sa+yJn6GjLiOVx56e1/rgJnq9 BK3R2/+Aq85ZlG02xiZzkCl6x4SgQ9/NYopr4ZRXszb26EF8dRwjP1YtifU0rl2AZsrR CCZ/bMs9TopSSwNP7ZhLTUK51ofwB+1moO9VW+zgYaLbjuT+tqVGiVl9YARpRsZLT7W5 OiVE2lgV9etqZ2NoYRkOsJDzuEJaVJWyenudjvUl1RrOCrj4zZU1r3bP8BjQ0WyQomex RaOw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=IWbVXN9rnjs/uCw0306me9bGZzTAIoFm9tySFL+imks=; b=XPZkxHcGiZGvwGtU66a9ygM69T+PAW3IQ5pYitbcC7IhdfQNsa5n+sXCgIYk7AFQSD JEqV7BmAvHaCbOkLZ4iR+7KHiFsAmq8fZ/+ME27qaBe3jHiLf8do4b3mAaaeFvOrzOF/ b8g4opLtoXKhM71owJpdaZxvUL0uiKZ0ExzXDiNsxbkm7vAwASEqgOL2RtcgSc3i/RHF Uy3JQMfk7Q1Ezp9qJs1x+YSQDm7WHZyMGdrgkJZq9bFVKMFYqPhDsDmFJAS2lPt2lMLv UuIXeaiaIhWT1P1bP75Sqbf5Z/PUUa6Us7ADwddpmbagznkVMtUP8lwHrLVCovmpCjIJ VzRA== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfoh0K6Qds3APY3c9e1cFrryYik/eNRYEi2M41fLQ484qGM6qwPGQ 29D4rQrnLpIT/jrfLJ2o/DbgJWSjIkMqyRMxKXA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV63qCRkA6M6Y6Kcqhfjp3FsbBEhgjgRqaIAGWs20Bgd7W5CNRTvnG4+kEDeY/kBy9GEBuSJOdDPjGdj/zdJpvVI= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:6716:: with SMTP id a22-v6mr1364111ejp.58.1539250680263; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 02:38:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <45ce971f-98f6-7480-c888-c212a94b1664@scharkowski.com> In-Reply-To: <45ce971f-98f6-7480-c888-c212a94b1664@scharkowski.com> From: Raitis Veinbahs Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 12:37:42 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Very long PDFs with 2.19.80, \chord and #ly:one-page-breaking To: thomas@scharkowski.com Cc: bug-lilypond@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::533 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: bug-lilypond@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond Bug Reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 09:38:09 -0000 Hi, (I remembered to press "reply to all" this time) I thought this was pretty obvious if you try compiling this, but the resulting PDF from the example is very long and it shouldn't be that way. Fortunately it looks like Aaron managed to reproduce it. On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 12:32 PM Thomas Scharkowski wrote: > Hi Raitis, > > I'm afraid I don't understand your question. > > Thomas > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > > Hi, > > > > Here's the tiny showcase: > > > > \version "2.19" > > > > \book { > > \paper { page-breaking = #ly:one-page-breaking } > > \score { << \relative c { c } \chords { c } >> } > > } > > > > % lilypond --version > > GNU LilyPond 2.19.80 > > > > Can you reproduce this? > > > > --- > > Regards, > > Raitis Veinbahs > > _______________________________________________ > > bug-lilypond mailing list > > bug-lilypond@gnu.org > > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond > > > > -- Raitis Veinbahs, +371 2236 4708 From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Oct 11 05:46:18 2018 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1gAXXu-0006VH-OR for mharc-bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 05:46:18 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57278) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAXXs-0006V9-EB for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 05:46:17 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAXXo-0003Gc-89 for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 05:46:16 -0400 Received: from mailout04.t-online.de ([194.25.134.18]:37018) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAXXo-0003EZ-0d for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 05:46:12 -0400 Received: from fwd37.aul.t-online.de (fwd37.aul.t-online.de [172.20.27.137]) by mailout04.t-online.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 5D77A41AD0BE; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 11:46:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iMac.fritz.box (rIHN4yZDrhPubljI2GQKXSTji3E-JBiHlSBeVPsNrpoFuIHEB51+vb43cnYYt3OQxc@[79.239.74.154]) by fwd37.t-online.de with (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 encrypted) esmtp id 1gAXXd-45riPQ0; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 11:46:01 +0200 Subject: Re: Very long PDFs with 2.19.80, \chord and #ly:one-page-breaking To: Raitis Veinbahs Cc: bug-lilypond@gnu.org References: <45ce971f-98f6-7480-c888-c212a94b1664@scharkowski.com> From: Thomas Scharkowski Message-ID: Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 11:46:00 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: de-DE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ID: rIHN4yZDrhPubljI2GQKXSTji3E-JBiHlSBeVPsNrpoFuIHEB51+vb43cnYYt3OQxc X-TOI-MSGID: c00e2fa1-1812-41b7-b725-af04373b328c X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 194.25.134.18 X-BeenThere: bug-lilypond@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond Bug Reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 09:46:17 -0000 Could you specify "very long"? LilyPond 2.19.82 on MacOS 10.14 produces a 37 KB pdf, which I would call "quite short" ;-) Thomas ------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Hi, (I remembered to press "reply to all" this time) > I thought this was pretty obvious if you try compiling this, but the > resulting PDF from the example is very long and it shouldn't be that way. > > Fortunately it looks like Aaron managed to reproduce it. > > On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 12:32 PM Thomas Scharkowski > wrote: > >> Hi Raitis, >> >> I'm afraid I don't understand your question. >> >> Thomas >> -------- Original-Nachricht -------- >>> Hi, >>> >>> Here's the tiny showcase: >>> >>> \version "2.19" >>> >>> \book { >>> \paper { page-breaking = #ly:one-page-breaking } >>> \score { << \relative c { c } \chords { c } >> } >>> } >>> >>> % lilypond --version >>> GNU LilyPond 2.19.80 >>> >>> Can you reproduce this? >>> >>> --- >>> Regards, >>> Raitis Veinbahs >>> _______________________________________________ >>> bug-lilypond mailing list >>> bug-lilypond@gnu.org >>> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond >>> >> >> > From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Oct 11 05:49:46 2018 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1gAXbG-00074Y-T3 for mharc-bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 05:49:46 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58011) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAXbF-00073U-7H for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 05:49:46 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAXbB-00058n-UK for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 05:49:45 -0400 Received: from delta.ursliska.de ([85.25.3.15]:45496) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAXbB-00058J-Ma for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 05:49:41 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by delta.ursliska.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2818C5680FF8 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 11:49:40 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at delta.ursliska.de Received: from delta.ursliska.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (delta.ursliska.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SjIQ5CFVYf-9 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 11:49:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.178.52] (p5DE62483.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [93.230.36.131]) (Authenticated sender: lists@openlilylib.org) by delta.ursliska.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 11:49:37 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Very long PDFs with 2.19.80, \chord and #ly:one-page-breaking To: bug-lilypond@gnu.org References: <45ce971f-98f6-7480-c888-c212a94b1664@scharkowski.com> From: Urs Liska Message-ID: <7910105b-8b15-8f7f-95c6-56a9f693e23b@openlilylib.org> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 11:49:34 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 85.25.3.15 X-BeenThere: bug-lilypond@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond Bug Reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 09:49:46 -0000 Am 11.10.2018 um 11:46 schrieb Thomas Scharkowski: > Could you specify "very long"? > LilyPond 2.19.82 on MacOS 10.14 produces a 37 KB pdf, which I would=20 > call "quite short" > ;-) > Thomas 210 =C3=97 17428 mm on my computer. I would agree this is "long", especially given the=20 content ... > ------- Original-Nachricht -------- >> Hi, (I remembered to press "reply to all" this time) >> I thought this was pretty obvious if you try compiling this, but the >> resulting PDF from the example is very long and it shouldn't be that=20 >> way. >> >> Fortunately it looks like Aaron managed to reproduce it. >> >> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 12:32 PM Thomas Scharkowski=20 >> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Raitis, >>> >>> I'm afraid I don't understand your question. >>> >>> Thomas >>> -------- Original-Nachricht -------- >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Here's the tiny showcase: >>>> >>>> \version "2.19" >>>> >>>> \book { >>>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 \paper { page-breaking =3D #ly:one-page-breaking = } >>>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 \score { << \relative c { c } \chords { c } >> } >>>> } >>>> >>>> % lilypond --version >>>> GNU LilyPond 2.19.80 >>>> >>>> Can you reproduce this? >>>> >>>> --- >>>> Regards, >>>> Raitis Veinbahs >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> bug-lilypond mailing list >>>> bug-lilypond@gnu.org >>>> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond >>>> >>> >>> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > bug-lilypond mailing list > bug-lilypond@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Oct 11 05:54:07 2018 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1gAXfT-0000k3-Ra for mharc-bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 05:54:07 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59163) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAXfR-0000jh-Sj for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 05:54:06 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAXfO-0007bM-8O for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 05:54:05 -0400 Received: from n5.nabble.com ([162.253.133.81]:57252) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAXfO-0007ai-25 for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 05:54:02 -0400 Received: from n5.nabble.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by n5.nabble.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98B02927C086 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 02:54:00 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 02:54:00 -0700 (MST) From: =?UTF-8?Q?Torsten_H=C3=A4mmerle?= To: bug-lilypond@gnu.org Message-ID: <1539251640623-0.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <7d6a52da0631eca8c6c1bc9f4db962da@hillvisions.com> References: <7d6a52da0631eca8c6c1bc9f4db962da@hillvisions.com> Subject: Re: Very long PDFs with 2.19.80, \chord and #ly:one-page-breaking MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Mac OS X [generic] X-Received-From: 162.253.133.81 X-BeenThere: bug-lilypond@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond Bug Reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 09:54:06 -0000 Hi, Yes, with \chords (or \new ChordNames etc.) as last line the score, the PDF page height will be 200 inches. Aaron Hill wrote > Interestingly, PNG 200dpi cropped is 164x137069 but only 291KB. Good > compression. ;-) /Off topic:/ That's the benefit of the PNG format for screenshots: uniformly coloured areas will take up very little storage space and PNG is lossless. Like in this case: "white all over" is far more economic that storing each and every individual pixel. Even JPEG is inferior for screenshots because it has been developed for photographs where you practically never have neighboring pixels of exactly the same colour. Moreover, JPEG compression is anything but lossless for screenshots with sharp contrasts and edges. All the best, Torsten -- Sent from: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Bugs-f58488.html From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Oct 11 05:54:31 2018 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1gAXfr-0000qF-8Z for mharc-bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 05:54:31 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59216) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAXfo-0000q3-S0 for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 05:54:29 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAXfl-0007mW-Kd for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 05:54:28 -0400 Received: from mail-it1-x130.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::130]:38099) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAXfk-0007lT-Rx for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 05:54:25 -0400 Received: by mail-it1-x130.google.com with SMTP id i76-v6so12265418ita.3 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 02:54:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=4CZeM4cbSrLPWO1wr9sxb/xzKoBQUi7xWz29eDTFtsc=; b=EHIrbnaRcwkZumBSxssWpfsDe2h6mN2f6U7oS2nGdo5DLpRdygcCEIPFunPesZme+p JplawEYQHJMOOEsA4h9uWTYLxYMKlGzGqFmkooAnchuX759+2cLXFvvL6AGfHp4ICoBz 1iDVXH19OSrcCRQqzggGhCzHRVHXEAYec5bjz9VNzLZejdfQs2k+qFu9eH1FYFZUaVqu YmCWuOlP/glS1HCY3KkdW5R1y1j16rViGJI1umKUdBgNQ3OOXsAqLECQtBN8/jL3Vbxc E4vaSgqH+nBiCbVn2vDGL6Junttx7aCEm0MQTJpGHvR664gUIEVwdPy/ZqJnpAQC2d8E bsGw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=4CZeM4cbSrLPWO1wr9sxb/xzKoBQUi7xWz29eDTFtsc=; b=clAP9lZ+Cb+0d5Lvm9UAY6nMvf2KYl2hMWQa4rohPPUHKYNw/3H+LT+lBDw71MdjJ9 /EPrbMKjsS80rzletvaw3R7qkEGdzUQagISDfRDaVvEQztCNQN95iyfjjnXJfgVK4+mO nSZ0OS8sB/ublggNuTeqNgs7n3JJU4ltrjYwKNtFEpHivtMpDhUqfGmu17EwpgB2UL+g aIwSVE+qvVDsrToBDtKJIuRKt03EmYLEsPcZ7i7580uJn5dlRgd4pCX9dodv3FZYRFOd K3LhxSCuGJDgUkjhDQHORDfHzwMHesVXErTn2sDd3rV6yWgSfBmVOCtnArJLD1czehbJ BmjQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfoih5mexHV/QRGKeq8dhwoJQJlIyKosyf/pfiDXQmesoins6XPOD xx3/fMIADEpH4gHjhNZZhIfLNw9ioO/ApAvFzv4se7Wo X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV62PhTuuT56XQx0EVrMOsiorHOIgc2+fDWDUcQlq2jB9bK8c2fHArghKgx1P9gq50UWZrawm/4E3BhndZAcAhrI= X-Received: by 2002:a24:a94d:: with SMTP id x13-v6mr762867iti.5.1539251662462; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 02:54:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <45ce971f-98f6-7480-c888-c212a94b1664@scharkowski.com> <7910105b-8b15-8f7f-95c6-56a9f693e23b@openlilylib.org> In-Reply-To: <7910105b-8b15-8f7f-95c6-56a9f693e23b@openlilylib.org> From: Raitis Veinbahs Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 12:54:04 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Very long PDFs with 2.19.80, \chord and #ly:one-page-breaking To: bug-lilypond@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::130 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: bug-lilypond@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond Bug Reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 09:54:30 -0000 I'm not talking about the literal size of the PDF, but when seen in a viewer, of course. It's hella long, like 40 times its width or something. % pdfinfo main.pdf Creator: LilyPond 2.19.80 Producer: GPL Ghostscript 9.25 CreationDate: Thu Oct 11 10:28:51 2018 EEST Page size: 595.28 x 49401.7 pts File size: 37554 bytes It not only does it have two notes, but due to #ly:one-page-breaking it should also adjust its height to the height of the content rather than leave rest of the page blank. On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 12:51 PM Urs Liska wrote: > > > Am 11.10.2018 um 11:46 schrieb Thomas Scharkowski: > > Could you specify "very long"? > > LilyPond 2.19.82 on MacOS 10.14 produces a 37 KB pdf, which I would > > call "quite short" > > ;-) > > Thomas > > 210 =C3=97 17428 mm > on my computer. I would agree this is "long", especially given the > content ... > > > ------- Original-Nachricht -------- > >> Hi, (I remembered to press "reply to all" this time) > >> I thought this was pretty obvious if you try compiling this, but the > >> resulting PDF from the example is very long and it shouldn't be that > >> way. > >> > >> Fortunately it looks like Aaron managed to reproduce it. > >> > >> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 12:32 PM Thomas Scharkowski > >> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Hi Raitis, > >>> > >>> I'm afraid I don't understand your question. > >>> > >>> Thomas > >>> -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > >>>> Hi, > >>>> > >>>> Here's the tiny showcase: > >>>> > >>>> \version "2.19" > >>>> > >>>> \book { > >>>> \paper { page-breaking =3D #ly:one-page-breaking } > >>>> \score { << \relative c { c } \chords { c } >> } > >>>> } > >>>> > >>>> % lilypond --version > >>>> GNU LilyPond 2.19.80 > >>>> > >>>> Can you reproduce this? > >>>> > >>>> --- > >>>> Regards, > >>>> Raitis Veinbahs > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> bug-lilypond mailing list > >>>> bug-lilypond@gnu.org > >>>> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > bug-lilypond mailing list > > bug-lilypond@gnu.org > > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond > > > _______________________________________________ > bug-lilypond mailing list > bug-lilypond@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond > --=20 Raitis Veinbahs, +371 2236 4708 From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Oct 11 06:00:46 2018 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1gAXlu-0001Wx-2p for mharc-bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 06:00:46 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60430) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAXlr-0001Wm-6h for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 06:00:43 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAXlo-0004Do-HJ for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 06:00:43 -0400 Received: from outbound-relay2.guardedhost.com ([2607:fe90:1:1::202]:58426) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAXlo-0004D8-AD for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 06:00:40 -0400 Received: from mail.guardedhost.com (mx02.guardedhost.com [IPv6:2607:fe90:1:1::53:1]) by outbound-relay1.guardedhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42W60k6jsQz4xK1p for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 10:00:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from webmail.omnis.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:fe90:1:1::a3:3]) (Authenticated sender: hillvisions@hillvisions.com) by mail.guardedhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 42W60j6xw9z4xQPN for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 10:00:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from c-67-170-72-177.hsd1.wa.comcast.net ([67.170.72.177]) by webmail.omnis.com with HTTP (HTTP/1.1 POST); Thu, 11 Oct 2018 10:00:37 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 03:00:37 -0700 From: Aaron Hill To: bug-lilypond@gnu.org Subject: Re: Very long PDFs with 2.19.80, \chord and #ly:one-page-breaking In-Reply-To: References: <45ce971f-98f6-7480-c888-c212a94b1664@scharkowski.com> <7910105b-8b15-8f7f-95c6-56a9f693e23b@openlilylib.org> Message-ID: X-Sender: lilypond@hillvisions.com User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.3.6 Authentication-Results: mail.guardedhost.com;auth=pass X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse-Id: 81415490-CD3C-11E8-8880-E2C37EB16F51 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:fe90:1:1::202 X-BeenThere: bug-lilypond@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond Bug Reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 10:00:44 -0000 This appears to be due to an odd interaction between one-page-breaking and the default staff-affinity for ChordNames (which is #DOWN). Adding this to the \score fixes it: %%%% \layout { \context { \ChordNames \override VerticalAxisGroup.staff-affinity = #UP } } %%%% -- Aaron Hill From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Oct 11 06:23:44 2018 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1gAY88-0007io-B5 for mharc-bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 06:23:44 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39266) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAY86-0007ii-TS for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 06:23:43 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAY83-0002fo-Ec for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 06:23:42 -0400 Received: from n5.nabble.com ([162.253.133.81]:52609) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAY83-0002dt-6B for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 06:23:39 -0400 Received: from n5.nabble.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by n5.nabble.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DDFA927E266 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 03:23:36 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 03:23:36 -0700 (MST) From: =?UTF-8?Q?Torsten_H=C3=A4mmerle?= To: bug-lilypond@gnu.org Message-ID: <1539253416184-0.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <7910105b-8b15-8f7f-95c6-56a9f693e23b@openlilylib.org> References: <7910105b-8b15-8f7f-95c6-56a9f693e23b@openlilylib.org> Subject: Re: Very long PDFs with 2.19.80, \chord and #ly:one-page-breaking MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Mac OS X [generic] X-Received-From: 162.253.133.81 X-BeenThere: bug-lilypond@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond Bug Reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 10:23:43 -0000 Urs Liska-3 wrote > 210 =C3=97 17428 mm That's interesting=E2=80=A6 On my computer (Windows 10 64 bit), Adobe Reade= r XI shows 210 x 5.080 mm. But that seems to be a limitation of the Adobe Reader. Considering the PDF (tested with 2.19.55, 2.19.82, 2.21.0), it says <) id 1gAY9r-00080G-Gz for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 06:25:34 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAY9d-00040e-Km for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 06:25:25 -0400 Received: from delta.ursliska.de ([85.25.3.15]:45682) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAY9V-0003tH-BT for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 06:25:12 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by delta.ursliska.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AA2B5680B33 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 12:25:08 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at delta.ursliska.de Received: from delta.ursliska.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (delta.ursliska.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qz7OUWuDbnwR for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 12:25:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.178.52] (p5DE62483.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [93.230.36.131]) (Authenticated sender: lists@openlilylib.org) by delta.ursliska.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 12:25:05 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Very long PDFs with 2.19.80, \chord and #ly:one-page-breaking To: bug-lilypond@gnu.org References: <7910105b-8b15-8f7f-95c6-56a9f693e23b@openlilylib.org> <1539253416184-0.post@n5.nabble.com> From: Urs Liska Message-ID: Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 12:25:02 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1539253416184-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 85.25.3.15 X-BeenThere: bug-lilypond@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond Bug Reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 10:25:34 -0000 Am 11.10.2018 um 12:23 schrieb Torsten H=C3=A4mmerle: > Urs Liska-3 wrote >> 210 =C3=97 17428 mm > > That's interesting=E2=80=A6 On my computer (Windows 10 64 bit), Adobe R= eader XI > shows 210 x 5.080 mm. > But that seems to be a limitation of the Adobe Reader. > > Considering the PDF (tested with 2.19.55, 2.19.82, 2.21.0), it says > < And that, converted into millimetres, exactly matches the 17428 mm you > found. > > In any case, the output page size is far too long and this is a bug of > #ly:one-page-breaking in combination with ChordNames at the end. > > All the best, > Torsten What would be the remedy? A fix in the code to change the behaviour of=20 this specific combination? Or rather a "Known issue" addition to the NR? From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Oct 11 07:49:53 2018 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1gAZTV-0000C7-Ju for mharc-bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 07:49:53 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60554) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAZTT-0000Bu-Mm for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 07:49:52 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAZTP-0003k7-Mi for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 07:49:51 -0400 Received: from n5.nabble.com ([162.253.133.81]:51170) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAZTP-0003ju-FG for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 07:49:47 -0400 Received: from n5.nabble.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by n5.nabble.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3E209284778 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 04:49:45 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 04:49:45 -0700 (MST) From: =?UTF-8?Q?Torsten_H=C3=A4mmerle?= To: bug-lilypond@gnu.org Message-ID: <1539258585735-0.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: References: <7910105b-8b15-8f7f-95c6-56a9f693e23b@openlilylib.org> <1539253416184-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Subject: Re: Very long PDFs with 2.19.80, \chord and #ly:one-page-breaking MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Mac OS X [generic] X-Received-From: 162.253.133.81 X-BeenThere: bug-lilypond@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond Bug Reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 11:49:52 -0000 Urs Liska-3 wrote > What would be the remedy? A fix in the code to change the behaviour of > this specific combination? Or rather a "Known issue" addition to the NR? Hmmm, Given the fact that #ly:one-page-breaking is quite new (dating back to 2016) and only part of the development versions of LilyPond, I'd very much prefer to have the issue solved than just documenting the problem. In a first step, the page-height is set to a maximum, and at the end, page-height is set to the finale height of the score. In case of ChordNames, however, it looks like a \vfill (speaking TeX) between the last stave and the chord symbols filling up all the space. Perhaps even Paul Morris, the developer of the one-page-breaking feature has an idea. In any case, creating an issue would be a good idea, and if there's no solution, the issue can still be used for adding "Known issues and warnings" to the NR. All the best, Torsten -- Sent from: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Bugs-f58488.html From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Oct 11 10:01:06 2018 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1gAbWU-0001Az-9F for mharc-bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 10:01:06 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54329) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAXKq-0002Mo-Ls for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 05:32:49 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAXKm-0004md-If for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 05:32:48 -0400 Received: from smtp.work.de ([212.12.62.98]:50002) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAXKm-0004kx-AS for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 05:32:44 -0400 Received: from [79.239.74.154] (helo=iMac.fritz.box) by smtp.work.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1gAXKi-0004lD-Mo; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 11:32:40 +0200 Subject: Re: Very long PDFs with 2.19.80, \chord and #ly:one-page-breaking To: Raitis Veinbahs , bug-lilypond@gnu.org References: From: Thomas Scharkowski Message-ID: <45ce971f-98f6-7480-c888-c212a94b1664@scharkowski.com> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 11:32:40 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: de-DE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x (no timestamps) [generic] X-Received-From: 212.12.62.98 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 10:01:05 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-lilypond@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond Bug Reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 09:32:49 -0000 Hi Raitis, I'm afraid I don't understand your question. Thomas -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Hi, > > Here's the tiny showcase: > > \version "2.19" > > \book { > \paper { page-breaking = #ly:one-page-breaking } > \score { << \relative c { c } \chords { c } >> } > } > > % lilypond --version > GNU LilyPond 2.19.80 > > Can you reproduce this? > > --- > Regards, > Raitis Veinbahs > _______________________________________________ > bug-lilypond mailing list > bug-lilypond@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond > From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Oct 11 12:53:15 2018 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1gAeD4-00051N-T4 for mharc-bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 12:53:14 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58962) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAeD3-000519-Iy for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 12:53:14 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAeCy-0002l2-Fp for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 12:53:12 -0400 Received: from aibo.runbox.com ([91.220.196.211]:36490) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAeCy-0002jr-4a for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 12:53:08 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=runbox.com; s=rbselector1; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:From:References:To:Subject; bh=jgoPniExQS85NmC8H1cko+a7EPhGlPLdrQLeR0WU2FI=; b=gBefvbQLQrgkZc3BpQXEpwR6FT 55WXs34XaNp2kcdXjscfPrsAeALkvcLna3b7qSGwMrUQwtIfmKyeHqWDsnaGUSLie2AfppJIA7JWY TXHU+hwiIakwbVN3T7DXWHQDRWkSDHRHam4QlN+ZZnUdsuaxR7kAAj72d9LQX//bwVCZ0F4pbswYN UoQ5yQqjlEC/+Io5gPRQMU481RHuToKne4YycselcvBtNVTQHJtd5T4O5ji3DpbCGJGdov98U8t/B LDkMnyBXHUhZWIjCJ3NxuNiyPWxouNRRYr5Ovhk4NLs30+vfLlO/wIqdAwNVdcEKnDRDENoagNUC5 zAm+MS3w==; Received: from [10.9.9.212] (helo=mailfront12.runbox.com) by mailtransmit03.runbox with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gAeCv-00007g-Je for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 18:53:05 +0200 Received: by mailfront12.runbox.com with esmtpsa (uid:896525 ) (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) id 1gAeCp-0003io-0q for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 18:52:59 +0200 Subject: Re: Very long PDFs with 2.19.80, \chord and #ly:one-page-breaking To: bug-lilypond@gnu.org References: <7910105b-8b15-8f7f-95c6-56a9f693e23b@openlilylib.org> <1539253416184-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <1539258585735-0.post@n5.nabble.com> From: James Message-ID: Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 17:52:41 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1539258585735-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 91.220.196.211 X-BeenThere: bug-lilypond@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond Bug Reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 16:53:14 -0000 Hello, On 11/10/18 12:49, Torsten Hämmerle wrote: > Urs Liska-3 wrote >> What would be the remedy? A fix in the code to change the behaviour of >> this specific combination? Or rather a "Known issue" addition to the NR? > > Hmmm, > > Given the fact that #ly:one-page-breaking is quite new (dating back to 2016) > and only part of the development versions of LilyPond, I'd very much prefer > to have the issue solved than just documenting the problem. > > In a first step, the page-height is set to a maximum, and at the end, > page-height is set to the finale height of the score. > In case of ChordNames, however, it looks like a \vfill (speaking TeX) > between the last stave and the chord symbols filling up all the space. > > Perhaps even Paul Morris, the developer of the one-page-breaking feature has > an idea. > In any case, creating an issue would be a good idea, and if there's no > solution, the issue can still be used for adding "Known issues and warnings" > to the NR. If this is a bug then we don't 'document' them in Known Issues. They get a tracker Item only. James From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Oct 11 13:39:04 2018 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1gAevQ-0003Up-N8 for mharc-bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 13:39:04 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42530) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAevO-0003Tj-Sj for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 13:39:03 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAevK-0003ji-98 for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 13:39:02 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:34430) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAevK-0003jb-5b for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 13:38:58 -0400 Received: from x4db5cb76.dyn.telefonica.de ([77.181.203.118]:50458 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gAevJ-0007Cv-S9 for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 13:38:58 -0400 From: David Kastrup To: bug-lilypond@gnu.org Subject: Re: Very long PDFs with 2.19.80, \chord and #ly:one-page-breaking References: <7d6a52da0631eca8c6c1bc9f4db962da@hillvisions.com> <1539251640623-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 19:38:56 +0200 In-Reply-To: <1539251640623-0.post@n5.nabble.com> ("Torsten \=\?iso-8859-1\?Q\?H\=E4mmerle\=22's\?\= message of "Thu, 11 Oct 2018 02:54:00 -0700 (MST)") Message-ID: <87murkbcy7.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: bug-lilypond@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond Bug Reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 17:39:03 -0000 Torsten H=E4mmerle writes: > Even JPEG is inferior for screenshots because it has been developed > for photographs where you practically never have neighboring pixels of > exactly the same colour. "Desktop Wallpaper". "Translucent windows". "Antialiased fonts". > Moreover, JPEG compression is anything but lossless for screenshots > with sharp contrasts and edges. Who uses pixel fonts anymore? --=20 David Kastrup From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Oct 11 23:50:53 2018 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1gAoTV-0001dK-Ns for mharc-bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 23:50:53 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37532) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAoTU-0001dE-7a for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 23:50:52 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAoTP-0000IA-Ha for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 23:50:52 -0400 Received: from perdizione.investici.org ([2001:41d0:2:33d0::19]:35090) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAoTP-0000H3-88 for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 23:50:47 -0400 Received: from [94.23.50.208] (perdizione [94.23.50.208]) (Authenticated sender: fede@inventati.org) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9CF6C140243 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 03:50:43 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=inventati.org; s=stigmate; t=1539316243; bh=rr4GJ9QgEkkNDeJg+JJgkmiq0w9Grn8/GsXoMJPhT2A=; h=Date:From:Subject:To; b=fbkeBr6W6CQpYPTqUXd9LIF+hmrGV36bJA6umqnVkSqNo8OR+odS02nsMAE1mQlcO MRAmhTj8+LNVDB0M+DANn7ihipN69WnisTZVvD3HITsHjdP6PkxCiNbKzU0wbFx523 dIE8RP+X/C4EtrZp6MaDWieoVx91xoX4FguoUh6E= Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 05:50:42 +0200 From: Federico Bruni Subject: snippet "Accordion register symbols" To: bug-lilypond Message-Id: <1539316242.8383.0@smtp.autistici.org> X-Mailer: geary/master~gc1bc3ee9 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2001:41d0:2:33d0::19 X-BeenThere: bug-lilypond@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond Bug Reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 03:50:53 -0000 http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=929 This snippet contains a typo and a wrong link to NR: texidoc = " Accordion register symbols are available as @code{\\markup} as well as as standalone music events (as register changes tend to occur between actual music events. Bass registers are not overly standardized. The available commands can be found in 'Accordion Registers' in the Notation Reference. " 1. typo: there's a missing closing bracket after "music events". 2. There's no 'Accordion Registers' node anymore in the NR: $ git grep '@node Accordion' Documentation/notation Documentation/notation/keyboards.itely:586:@node Accordion Documentation/notation/notation-appendices.itely:1152:@node Accordion glyphs Also, shouldn't we use a cross-ref to link from Snippet to NR manual? So it should be: available commands can be found in @ruser{Discant symbols} BTW, even if not used anymore in the documentation, wrong node name is also in this obsolete snippet: http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=194 No need to open an issue, I think, since these changes must be made on the LSR. Thanks Federico From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Oct 12 00:26:30 2018 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1gAp1y-0006Dh-0C for mharc-bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 00:26:30 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41664) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAp1v-0006DM-8b for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 00:26:28 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAp1r-0000zZ-La for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 00:26:26 -0400 Received: from perdizione.investici.org ([94.23.50.208]:61574) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAp1r-0000sZ-8y for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 00:26:23 -0400 Received: from [94.23.50.208] (perdizione [94.23.50.208]) (Authenticated sender: fede@inventati.org) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 420BC140170 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 04:26:12 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=inventati.org; s=stigmate; t=1539318372; bh=jfdtUNYSmpV+StzAc5riPlKv3rs+eP2Hpg9HbPJGGtw=; h=Date:From:Subject:To; b=ihS98ZwfxBjhjRu6ct1/B0t+Cqu0QVwqj7j9BwbZZymUByRgCCeiuubt0oUt+2rZb ykUSytZCksfzummlWULv+k6qZUuqelx89Q7cPY9AGw1Ujw5B55G9VGjI7kkOs+xaTb G0LJkDTInFpkvjZ9w0CSTyiheWR4bPtjlEcXKAaw= Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 06:26:11 +0200 From: Federico Bruni Subject: Doc: typo in keyboards.itely To: bug-lilypond@gnu.org Message-Id: <1539318371.8383.1@smtp.autistici.org> X-Mailer: geary/master~gc1bc3ee9 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 94.23.50.208 X-BeenThere: bug-lilypond@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond Bug Reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 04:26:28 -0000 $ git grep -n tremelo Documentation/notation/keyboards.itely:644:@item A @notation{bisbigliando} is written as a tremelo @ref{Tremolo tremelo > tremolo Can anybody push a fix? Thanks Federico From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Oct 12 04:34:58 2018 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1gAsuP-0006vd-T7 for mharc-bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 04:34:57 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55573) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAsuN-0006u4-K0 for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 04:34:56 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAsuJ-00029Z-Rz for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 04:34:55 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:48073) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAsuJ-00029N-NH for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 04:34:51 -0400 Received: from x5ce34c03.dyn.telefonica.de ([92.227.76.3]:55978 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gAsuH-0007Tx-Kp for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 04:34:50 -0400 From: David Kastrup To: bug-lilypond@gnu.org Subject: Re: Doc: typo in keyboards.itely References: <1539318371.8383.1@smtp.autistici.org> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 10:34:47 +0200 In-Reply-To: <1539318371.8383.1@smtp.autistici.org> (Federico Bruni's message of "Fri, 12 Oct 2018 06:26:11 +0200") Message-ID: <87efcva7h4.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: bug-lilypond@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond Bug Reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 08:34:56 -0000 Federico Bruni writes: > $ git grep -n tremelo > Documentation/notation/keyboards.itely:644:@item A > @notation{bisbigliando} is written as a tremelo @ref{Tremolo > > tremelo > tremolo > > Can anybody push a fix? Pushed to staging. -- David Kastrup From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Oct 12 04:36:56 2018 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1gAswK-0008AP-9n for mharc-bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 04:36:56 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56094) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAswH-00088h-Sz for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 04:36:54 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAswE-0003GN-ID for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 04:36:53 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:48096) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAswE-0003GI-E1 for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 04:36:50 -0400 Received: from x5ce34c03.dyn.telefonica.de ([92.227.76.3]:55980 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gAswE-0007hD-2P for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 04:36:50 -0400 From: David Kastrup To: bug-lilypond@gnu.org Subject: Re: snippet "Accordion register symbols" References: <1539316242.8383.0@smtp.autistici.org> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 10:36:48 +0200 In-Reply-To: <1539316242.8383.0@smtp.autistici.org> (Federico Bruni's message of "Fri, 12 Oct 2018 05:50:42 +0200") Message-ID: <87a7nja7dr.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: bug-lilypond@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond Bug Reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 08:36:55 -0000 Federico Bruni writes: > http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=929 > > This snippet contains a typo and a wrong link to NR: > > texidoc = " > Accordion register symbols are available as @code{\\markup} as well as > as standalone music events (as register changes tend to occur between > actual music events. Bass registers are not overly standardized. The > available commands can be found in 'Accordion Registers' in the > Notation Reference. > > " > > 1. typo: there's a missing closing bracket after "music events". > > 2. There's no 'Accordion Registers' node anymore in the NR: > > $ git grep '@node Accordion' Documentation/notation > Documentation/notation/keyboards.itely:586:@node Accordion > Documentation/notation/notation-appendices.itely:1152:@node Accordion > glyphs > > Also, shouldn't we use a cross-ref to link from Snippet to NR manual? > So it should be: > > available commands can be found in @ruser{Discant symbols} > > BTW, even if not used anymore in the documentation, wrong node name is > also in this obsolete snippet: > http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=194 > > No need to open an issue, I think, since these changes must be made on > the LSR. Using @ruser carries the danger of documentation builds becoming more complicated when you want to change section names. Basically, you need to put the snippet in snippets/new whenever you do that in order to synch the change with the current LilyPond version. -- David Kastrup From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Oct 12 04:43:53 2018 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1gAt33-0002RV-6l for mharc-bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 04:43:53 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58131) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAt31-0002Qb-4x for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 04:43:51 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAt30-00036B-87 for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 04:43:51 -0400 Received: from mail-wm1-x335.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::335]:52398) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAt30-00032N-0K for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 04:43:50 -0400 Received: by mail-wm1-x335.google.com with SMTP id 189-v6so11504508wmw.2 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 01:43:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=VP6noGAhR+ExVFhYEqJh22lT4Jo+f1LfZ8jwxa+MAtg=; b=rJGQSeX3q9/0CrJ0PM0yVPvkNsebEHIDbLdmLO5LZPbFwAgNBX5RBoIwcDmW9Mkf0i OVzrITl9gFHDrmByXkSk06o5zTzP0EHpVf8VMX/R7rYljt3X9SM0xs+BYCjsnKPMMBvG LDSOc9G6jC+ifDwvfxhvEbxjUFwh5VgLwBw2nXCaNP4Z637C6GXYCKOkSL/Z7deXTKzJ Cw5guL7m7iVNLpggBppduqD/mNTczYXqq6J3NhUdNey0I1QX6gM882gYe7Ifp6RE5bNN /MGwiIx6ivoRlP7pupZKPHHHZsKTIAckW1pCqHJqV3ILwfMVVB6sMci64GWKQKpb1smV cyjw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=VP6noGAhR+ExVFhYEqJh22lT4Jo+f1LfZ8jwxa+MAtg=; b=fAU5ARDJ6T5bYDAT+HiegKJEI1SUZxEo+j78RvHjVUUOicTyz2dw80by3YiPEpf84B WlMLoDdfQWWYBZff+5uViHSLx0NLXD1g5kvbcy3mQB4YrO3Kvntk1eV7DcW+m1exGXi5 OyoZgNDVLLQ6mucya1/IYBkdq8AkPSIIeJd+5hgcLoNdFUxNDgGmhO2ZiYqE/5f8bYGD Rn0iQKP7V3Ca3OAGOLrp8WdzeMcyONoI3qnDpzS6qqpqXn0au4MosbTAZGbB5cIaHzgP xq8tePV2iiaY2VmgaYII7GmpzkQmrc6/fet2PwO3oMswKzFDS7fIsggSY4jbVBPeKMHQ sOrg== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfogQu98AYJR6rm+u6RREF91/6vdcYxOPwWZ8aJs5OUL+A88YH2ba wxrn/wA1YCHx0WdDrL8jwlyUaD+fWl+JxiyeNgk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV62Hvhp6QdCthQX9qZTz2bTYuXVOwDyt5cX0uLbaeYkTqQ3qVV6ApcTmVCCs4SuSIoubNAcj2D4QeB3o523gXIw= X-Received: by 2002:a1c:cc8:: with SMTP id 191-v6mr4285595wmm.55.1539333828767; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 01:43:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1539316242.8383.0@smtp.autistici.org> In-Reply-To: <1539316242.8383.0@smtp.autistici.org> From: Thomas Morley Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 10:43:33 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: snippet "Accordion register symbols" To: Federico Bruni Cc: bug-lilypond Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::335 X-BeenThere: bug-lilypond@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond Bug Reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 08:43:52 -0000 Am Fr., 12. Okt. 2018 um 05:51 Uhr schrieb Federico Bruni : > > http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=929 > > This snippet contains a typo and a wrong link to NR: I now changed the text in LSR to: Accordion register symbols are available as \markup as well as as standalone music events (as register changes tend to occur between actual music events). Bass registers are not overly standardized. The available commands can be found in 'Discant symbols' in the Notation Reference. Ok? Cheers, Harm From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Oct 12 04:47:36 2018 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1gAt6d-0004fH-U3 for mharc-bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 04:47:35 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59358) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAt6a-0004bS-VC for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 04:47:33 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAt6a-0004k8-0h for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 04:47:32 -0400 Received: from mail-wm1-x336.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::336]:50810) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gAt6Z-0004hp-Cs for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 04:47:31 -0400 Received: by mail-wm1-x336.google.com with SMTP id i8-v6so11448679wmg.0 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 01:47:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=xG4iKfUlJs3B+AHPzAllR1wv8FSRXRnDrYXk57CDuZ4=; b=Co0zYg9IIaUZZ+0squ1TwowUpGwxsW3Rl4qZkgvUTXZ4luPWDIP44nU7MY97ntV7A5 68NCnbdrsWF1BG7j/vAcENwQXt9Hyh9ot9qs+/e10y94CYNJ9KR1Ef3seFxLk7UBkoo4 MAJh7YOUOR1UzLcu9G/+HITkq5sKjECx2HYDeJBIUtJIdkVOyOZY7lScM8sRydeHghLs aAO32cbNVVFZHNLAKPJc3FC6/KxDps/oiDgaVnTT7CvA8/gxiS1cuGJVILRLcphIxjY8 4nlO73TqF3EQWKyrDkIp1hPJ8KNYKVplw6TrdNpOgvQEtcCPu1mrGDunm1XItH/pDmfv l6qQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=xG4iKfUlJs3B+AHPzAllR1wv8FSRXRnDrYXk57CDuZ4=; b=OGoMB7BNvno9YyO03mzWrCtVItxI4yi9K71/UhePBHHDAXtxDzSpImfecTZmkanr2k KhMYMK0pM+yDfqqtPayRnJrkjOWGiinHkooelLGHSmFYseleGboNCbgXSNAfaZXVONLu uMZWd+cL6MJ9mP9c3ppLQAXfndkIdJeThXu8/FULCcOvFWw4quiiWf/43zfDwj/I4Zvf a35cTif6OCymEVkcE/f2yHT8MeKpzuwnRSpGtVVw+trS0PpBomrWTtK+bTPR6TWpjtaM 0bObHvBPc0MGG1ayTcLA13T4GpMy/v2kS4X1vhYBytt72amYAKw9PaN89d9OJs4hao4J XSow== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfoiwlY7XyPpP4x5zVARdXKg1hB4p/F3DTHmeYZpDUgiOvK78l8IY sNQFJZGgrQoPNMf9Pk4lU6zJJW7sXP8/vF3MtuM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV60CvGgnG/id6rn7o22PxC0PMe22ahc4ce5RabpU37E+szGLOdTn6/7zV8iWLwWugXYUrqPVqI0SQl/sYvWITuI= X-Received: by 2002:a1c:cc8:: with SMTP id 191-v6mr4295050wmm.55.1539334049240; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 01:47:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1539316242.8383.0@smtp.autistici.org> In-Reply-To: <1539316242.8383.0@smtp.autistici.org> From: Thomas Morley Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 10:47:13 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: snippet "Accordion register symbols" To: Federico Bruni Cc: bug-lilypond Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::336 X-BeenThere: bug-lilypond@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond Bug Reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 08:47:33 -0000 Am Fr., 12. Okt. 2018 um 05:51 Uhr schrieb Federico Bruni : > BTW, even if not used anymore in the documentation, wrong node name is > also in this obsolete snippet: > http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=194 Text changed to: This snippet has been obsoleted by predefined markup commands, see 'Discant symbols' in the Notation Reference. [...] Cheers, Harm From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Oct 15 08:13:07 2018 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1gC1kA-0002Wn-Tp for mharc-bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Oct 2018 08:13:06 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46258) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gC1k8-0002UV-Dk for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Oct 2018 08:13:05 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gC1k6-0006Gu-WE for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Oct 2018 08:13:04 -0400 Received: from mail-wr1-x42e.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::42e]:47078) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gC1k1-00067s-M9 for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Oct 2018 08:13:00 -0400 Received: by mail-wr1-x42e.google.com with SMTP id n11-v6so20952608wru.13 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2018 05:12:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=1Lv9nsEOTRfAgofjPmJYx/T4cx41Rxnk1yUa+kX/cu8=; b=Z2LZaIejgSIylKzg7S3EdDMv249aiARjAOr/2hia0jIhcXR3mAMqTVfRq67jBh1TuO 1OnHJy2MT0LP+VKWwosA4cXTMh9YltwXZwQAyVPo+Gx7N1C0A4Xk7scqJ2a/+mZiT4uh JdgtfuqK2iRlR2XLG/EYP/PsxAVNYy6WoAqHvLeqiPoSiQcRRSNQHj+fAKoTBFWtWx6B okNlMAtDzYPOtuEWMNFhMU2FWiSq8ZNho1CbCztDEgwFs+5JJW8VaboDXLpErhZsR/7p dIJFxACqvzKIlEb4R+j0qO+LNVirly/Yd/gW9pRzEKMmz5w8aqazdMKAN0+biSS32KLs QtIg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=1Lv9nsEOTRfAgofjPmJYx/T4cx41Rxnk1yUa+kX/cu8=; b=sX8BmvuAS2eZ3wTtbs8CFAIcYKFXWHeDGBmwS7l0cfvS/Mr5U/98MZA93jN0V/FuTz ve9t/A1nbMIHl4gCJNPi09j65eTQV+BuvC3Om7LoQJ8vWuu2dSSmVhgRL9RpyZT541Qu FCqvkZXeeMKCigaCtc10aln5DHRYp6I55j/2phNeFPJ7SqHGvRjBRan1/WxDa6qcQnpy WURFC8HfQVRW6dGwmi/KvWULfILCTwPwmT4SDNwGhPkLerusS+Y499SOKXjzGm+zcFB0 HezAfx0kaSXM+TE0wIqs51jJYFfGpG/Sk1o7HfkS9+rCkloWnyt26kzZLNCbW93CF07X iRLw== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfojMHwj/kwTKd/G/B6XfXypkZeMVXmnj5jlUQwbOzVr+9/nb8+2k etB7Lj01hwgGnpxzfLDb8pl4ZWscsT0lr2oBMRsdH/qPHAc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV601nT87GC6ezs8Vd6gcFUG81ghGn8RxLG3V8HY2i9uwBMU4OCIy3PTCuOEZ5rY9X3YXmoubzhe1biKLAhbixuA= X-Received: by 2002:adf:c793:: with SMTP id l19-v6mr14151894wrg.230.1539605570132; Mon, 15 Oct 2018 05:12:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Thomas Morley Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 14:12:36 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: staffgroup-staff-spacing may be applied multiple times per StaffGroup To: bug-lilypond Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0000000000001a40d70578435b07" X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::42e X-BeenThere: bug-lilypond@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond Bug Reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 12:13:05 -0000 --0000000000001a40d70578435b07 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi, for nested container-contexts StaffGrouper.staffgroup-staff-spacing is applied not only to the last Staff (as opposed to the NR). See code below, png attached. \version "2.19.82" mus = \new Voice { c''1 } \score { << \new StaffGroup << \mus \new GrandStaff << \mus \mus >> \mus \new GrandStaff << \mus \mus >> \mus >> \mus >> \layout { %% Play with the padding-values \override StaffGroup.StaffGrouper.staffgroup-staff-spacing = #'((basic-distance . 0) (minimum-distance . 0) (padding . 10) (stretchability . 0)) \override GrandStaff.StaffGrouper.staffgroup-staff-spacing = #'((basic-distance . 0) (minimum-distance . 0) (padding . 0) (stretchability . 0)) %% Don't get disturbed by other settings \override Staff.VerticalAxisGroup.default-staff-staff-spacing = #'((basic-distance . 0) (minimum-distance . 0) (padding . 0) (stretchability . 0)) \override StaffGroup.StaffGrouper.staff-staff-spacing = #'((basic-distance . 0) (minimum-distance . 0) (padding . 0) (stretchability . 0)) } } http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/flexible-vertical-spacing-within-systems states: "Properties of the StaffGrouper grob [...] staffgroup-staff-spacing The distance between the last staff of the current staff-group and the staff just below it in the same system, [...]." Actually, the last Staff of a StaffGroup (or equivalent) _and_ every Staff right before another container-context is spaced by staffgroup-staff-spacing. I'm undecided whether I'd call this behaviour a bug or a feature. Opinions? In any case the doc is currently wrong, at least incomplete. 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10:03:56 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1539266194243-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 91.220.196.211 X-BeenThere: bug-lilypond@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond Bug Reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 09:04:13 -0000 Hello, (cc-ing the bug list) On 11/10/2018 2:56 pm, d_l wrote: > I have joined this list today just for the purpose of facilitating a link > between Scribus and LilyPond forums and posting one PATCH suggestion before > next imminent release of lilypond. > > Over at the Scribus forum a small issue prevents svg output from lilypond > commandline being rendered in Scribus the desktop publishing tool. PNG > output works. > > The Scribus issue refers to SVG fill attribute "currentColor" being used > instead of "black". > > Perhaps at this 11th hour before next release this might be looked at? > LilyPond printing through Scribus would make a nice team. > > References: > > https://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=15454 > > http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/rsvg-view-can-t-display-SVG-files-created-by-lilypond-tc191462.html#a191496 > > Here is a quote from a Scribus forum snr. member: > > "the lillypond authors seem to know about the issue but (probably) wrongly > decided to do nothing... > > can somebody who uses lillypond try to post a bug report for this issue with > jean's explanation from the bug tracker and telling them that this shortcut > makes hard to import the svg in scribus? > (i mean, they could keep track of the color used and always set it > explicitly, instead of relying on a default value that seems not to be 100% > standardized)." I have created https://sourceforge.net/p/testlilyissues/issues/5429/ Regards James From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Oct 16 05:04:35 2018 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1gCLHH-0000XL-MD for mharc-bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Oct 2018 05:04:35 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49648) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gCLHC-0000VH-J9 for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Oct 2018 05:04:34 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gCLH8-0006bi-LS for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Oct 2018 05:04:28 -0400 Received: from aibo.runbox.com ([91.220.196.211]:56672) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gCLH6-0006Yq-I6 for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Oct 2018 05:04:26 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=runbox.com; s=rbselector1; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:Reply-To:References:Cc:To:Subject:From; bh=p40UIckEEz4qPoXI0fpHp3veHnv0ezeLm6bztkZPx6k=; b=F0G5W1JDXKZIoZv4d0boc7WKsr 2cIt8gE+oaN05YvmsQwuU5ttiFvr8bLvIvka6YbFHed8KeT0eQriHlHmBquj8KjNoR+/HUeVyhwIC 6Nnx+3Ol29d5/2fnb+AiX5PAgUZVgQLx33h1YPet2wNEyLdsaZ0BaVqkg7Df08lYc4sQczeZD2S1z YFSdOz2VNRvzUKYVdAu2rhtLY9jmqoUgMC76v8wjJoB9KaVTLyNd/wOHHMYzaU0yYspQgv9e+N7ae azWsV8/qG2VEU89s7DesRSXgzxzpspNGir5oty/0jMYU+1PRmlvsvhkXU/abclt8XXL6OUmJSHRxj bCYns7Zg==; Received: from [10.9.9.211] (helo=mailfront11.runbox.com) by mailtransmit03.runbox with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gCLH5-0007af-D8; Tue, 16 Oct 2018 11:04:23 +0200 Received: by mailfront11.runbox.com with esmtpsa (uid:896525 ) (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) id 1gCLH3-0004aF-TH; Tue, 16 Oct 2018 11:04:22 +0200 From: James Lowe Subject: Re: Request PATCH to ensure LilyPond SVG compatibility with Scribus To: d_l Cc: bug-lilypond References: <1539266194243-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Reply-To: pkx166h@runbox.com Message-ID: <43930d16-63fe-8e2b-31a1-f8ea948a04e2@runbox.com> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 10:04:21 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1539266194243-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 91.220.196.211 X-BeenThere: bug-lilypond@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond Bug Reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 09:04:34 -0000 Hello, (cc-ing the bug list) On 11/10/2018 2:56 pm, d_l wrote: > I have joined this list today just for the purpose of facilitating a link > between Scribus and LilyPond forums and posting one PATCH suggestion before > next imminent release of lilypond. > > Over at the Scribus forum a small issue prevents svg output from lilypond > commandline being rendered in Scribus the desktop publishing tool. PNG > output works. > > The Scribus issue refers to SVG fill attribute "currentColor" being used > instead of "black". > > Perhaps at this 11th hour before next release this might be looked at? > LilyPond printing through Scribus would make a nice team. > > References: > > https://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=15454 > > http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/rsvg-view-can-t-display-SVG-files-created-by-lilypond-tc191462.html#a191496 > > Here is a quote from a Scribus forum snr. member: > > "the lillypond authors seem to know about the issue but (probably) wrongly > decided to do nothing... > > can somebody who uses lillypond try to post a bug report for this issue with > jean's explanation from the bug tracker and telling them that this shortcut > makes hard to import the svg in scribus? > (i mean, they could keep track of the color used and always set it > explicitly, instead of relying on a default value that seems not to be 100% > standardized)." I have created https://sourceforge.net/p/testlilyissues/issues/5429/ Regards James From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Oct 20 11:55:01 2018 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1gDtab-0007dR-LR for mharc-bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Oct 2018 11:55:01 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60734) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gDtaa-0007dI-8n for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Oct 2018 11:54:56 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gDtaZ-0003jb-IV for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Oct 2018 11:54:56 -0400 Received: from mail-wr1-x42f.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::42f]:38535) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gDtaZ-0003iz-97 for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Oct 2018 11:54:55 -0400 Received: by mail-wr1-x42f.google.com with SMTP id d10-v6so819803wrs.5 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2018 08:54:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=pNA7wo7TgD78nZ87DlUhh6l0BaRcyg4aUbtWm41N0IQ=; b=Efk1wbs36zXBoVJtoQQPx+ofNjQdBP1fZ+17uXQYlL1iXa2B+PhwQ8Brwd0POXbvON goXUYkbdQojdwu/Z6H/oMsq6R/13SKeUSgktfCRi8KSDebcI8ogkVHshSEnqjeAj27KT kCZadmHDa7mOvk+aPE8zYAB7q90UmW9rN8zTwPg86GUvkRXWFo2BHo5qe9FmhCISkeSr A2rghM56trGzXS8mK7mB7tmtJToY6j0bybnNY6RJjM57PtvyojEcAzlj7Tpzb0JRaHWW MR0w2zs8SL2cNWUk7T3U37x5Zex3ZbINz4PyrIC0Y231ZWbaQM2f4dtFWJdr8BQ8EAWi Yy0w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=pNA7wo7TgD78nZ87DlUhh6l0BaRcyg4aUbtWm41N0IQ=; b=IZ03efyrZYdNTZqynolLDn56kTtLo7WZZqy5VZu17MKbVGzkDb8ZiYtZOrV2YIhP9J IB2b+54nna8cUxcSvTnS3YzHvibzZMAb5R/COsYClowY8anFy44RuJDW0YXBRQhSuuv5 hqebxaYkbfimRRbLd3B3v+m+PqL3sNVIPL3hxLjK3tUSsousqD0m+5Jq0b268QFQBTDP EvVw3OLzEMFzrxarlZX4kkplfui24l9bxOzNRYxTxXp+JrQLSQ/HFMCgGyRD4hSXKkot p3P04lj8jC4iMpxdSEzM1xTIEYiNSkIaxXeW4/b+608A8f5eDwahS75LDfFRDLK0HDEG xeNQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfohQDkCvYM2Otms0fltDD1aWMNKWfB9yHMgdZLEmxO+6v40CTMwZ knQYXWy4QRvK6lXhiVEzaACvGvH6iHrTpeH11Dp99xxeImY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV63TAVIvXuwaPiBAjHBcqAyNER/yEqZ/PBg19l7ZkX1hq2/XIPkm9zeaY24PCkHJGQ/h+coy7YnBEonOq23XocI= X-Received: by 2002:adf:da43:: with SMTP id r3-v6mr39577039wrl.221.1540050893558; Sat, 20 Oct 2018 08:54:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Thomas Morley Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 17:54:39 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Superfluous clef To: bug-lilypond Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::42f X-BeenThere: bug-lilypond@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond Bug Reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 15:54:57 -0000 Hi, with the code below a superfluous clef is printed. \version "2.19.82" \new Staff << \new Voice { s1 s } \new Voice { s \clef treble s } >> Probably it's caused by the method how the default treble-clef is put into Staff when initializing, I'm guessing, though. Cheers, Harm From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Oct 20 11:59:37 2018 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1gDtf7-0000rn-IZ for mharc-bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Oct 2018 11:59:37 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33532) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gDtf3-0000qU-4A for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Oct 2018 11:59:33 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gDtev-00068L-Bf for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Oct 2018 11:59:33 -0400 Received: from horologium.uberspace.de ([95.143.172.232]:53854) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gDtep-0005x9-Gw for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Oct 2018 11:59:23 -0400 Received: (qmail 6920 invoked from network); 20 Oct 2018 15:59:15 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?IPv6:2a02:810d:8a00:14b0:7649:2806:ff59:9d81?) (127.0.0.1) by horologium.uberspace.de with SMTP; 20 Oct 2018 15:59:15 -0000 Subject: Re: Superfluous clef To: bug-lilypond@gnu.org References: From: Malte Meyn Message-ID: <8972a48f-f58d-607f-90e1-4bcef6f1ed6c@maltemeyn.de> Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 17:59:13 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-CA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 95.143.172.232 X-BeenThere: bug-lilypond@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond Bug Reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 15:59:36 -0000 Am 20.10.18 um 17:54 schrieb Thomas Morley: > Hi, > > with the code below a superfluous clef is printed. > > \version "2.19.82" > > \new Staff > << > \new Voice { s1 s } > \new Voice { s \clef treble s } >>> You don’t even need two voices for that: \version "2.19.82" { s1 \clef treble s } % try also s4 instead of s1 From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Oct 22 09:43:50 2018 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1gEaUo-00044n-9u for mharc-bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 09:43:50 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47512) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gEV6w-0006FZ-Iq for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 03:58:51 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gEV6s-0006O2-40 for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 03:58:50 -0400 Received: from n5.nabble.com ([162.253.133.81]:61972) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gEV6r-0006Nm-Ua for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 03:58:46 -0400 Received: from n5.nabble.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by n5.nabble.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0030964D81E for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 00:58:44 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 00:58:44 -0700 (MST) From: maanshic To: bug-lilypond@gnu.org Message-ID: <1540195124804-0.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: UNC file names MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Mac OS X [generic] X-Received-From: 162.253.133.81 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 09:43:49 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-lilypond@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond Bug Reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 07:58:51 -0000 AOL is the best independent organization that provides AOL Customer Service for any glitches. 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X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::233 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 13:11:47 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: bug-lilypond@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond Bug Reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 16:57:56 -0000 Did this bug end up being materialized on the tracker? (I was looking if there had been any follow-up on the sourceforge bug tracker but was unable to find it there). Best regards, David Baptista Torsten H=C3=A4mmerle escreveu no dia sexta, 4/05/2018 =C3=A0(s) 14:01: > David Baptista wrote > > Thank you for the speedy reply. > > Ok, I admit it was too speedy... > Yes, you are right, I confirm to have the same effect here. > > That, indeed, calls for a tracker issue. > > All the best and thanks for the hint, > Torsten > > > > -- > Sent from: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Bugs-f58488.html > > _______________________________________________ > bug-lilypond mailing list > bug-lilypond@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond > From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Oct 24 04:32:43 2018 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1gFEap-0008TW-Qe for mharc-bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 04:32:43 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49665) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gFEaj-0007e9-Tv for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 04:32:42 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gFEKj-0007ZC-Ed for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 04:16:08 -0400 Received: from aibo.runbox.com ([91.220.196.211]:44514) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gFEKj-0007Xz-3l for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 04:16:05 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=runbox.com; s=rbselector1; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:From:Reply-To:References:Cc:To:Subject; bh=t5+knZ/GzYKWvaBYWAaNIlW+gn05lhMfGae20HN61bE=; b=MaULGAPRoUkgLsth1l2888TryF yYcJBvcsWgOOBJe4+HDX/tflGKaij0N2L3Z6NqmmwNOLLp/GMYfNe276Y/5UDPrNZXivvLp8BlRzs XlhO0Ks0Yq1LdIgRtlfLIyqvzQGteWdovskuq3DaM0StKitbzmF4EXztkZBx7WjYFJrQOHVdBn61s hH9rm/zg93jAexl7841ULfgtjbxPtFYWKjLyhS3GjCQJB9fSpFKqq27Xcley7f25tdcQnNMIMNpIx 7JG8hwrOZPooJgF/VF3FBxyxDso/UyWIpiSrjg8+jy1g7e06PnqGOCz52GKkNjJwbY6dADRskllHj m2s+933A==; Received: from [10.9.9.211] (helo=mailfront11.runbox.com) by mailtransmit02.runbox with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gFEKg-0001iP-Hk; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 10:16:02 +0200 Received: by mailfront11.runbox.com with esmtpsa (uid:896525 ) (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) id 1gFEKQ-0003xT-H7; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 10:15:46 +0200 Subject: Re: Articulate script plus grace notes following multiple voices results in timing errors To: David Baptista , torsten.haemmerle@web.de Cc: bug-lilypond@gnu.org References: <1525433439975-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <1525438861145-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Reply-To: pkx166h@runbox.com From: James Lowe Message-ID: Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 09:15:34 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 91.220.196.211 X-BeenThere: bug-lilypond@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond Bug Reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 08:32:42 -0000 Hello, On 22/10/2018 5:57 pm, David Baptista wrote: > Did this bug end up being materialized on the tracker? (I was looking if > there had been any follow-up on the sourceforge bug tracker but was unable > to find it there). > > Best regards, > David Baptista No it does not look like anything was added to the tracker based on the date of this thread. However I am having a struggle understanding what the 'concise' request is here, to be able to add something - i.e. is it an output / engraving issue or an 'audio' / midi-specific issue or both (in which case we probably need two trackers). Thank you. James > Torsten Hämmerle escreveu no dia sexta, > 4/05/2018 à(s) 14:01: > >> David Baptista wrote >>> Thank you for the speedy reply. >> Ok, I admit it was too speedy... >> Yes, you are right, I confirm to have the same effect here. >> >> That, indeed, calls for a tracker issue. >> >> All the best and thanks for the hint, >> Torsten >> >> >> >> -- >> Sent from: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Bugs-f58488.html >> >> _______________________________________________ >> bug-lilypond mailing list >> bug-lilypond@gnu.org >> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond >> > _______________________________________________ > bug-lilypond mailing list > bug-lilypond@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Oct 24 05:53:51 2018 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1gFFrL-0006gy-5j for mharc-bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 05:53:51 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43883) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gFFrI-0006f2-RZ for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 05:53:50 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gFFrG-0007Gk-VD for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 05:53:48 -0400 Received: from mail-ot1-x332.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::332]:34203) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gFFrF-0007Fo-Fn for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 05:53:45 -0400 Received: by mail-ot1-x332.google.com with SMTP id c3so4413824otm.1 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 02:53:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=5jPqNMR2nMRfu0Ymd8FU6nfHkDKSOz01oL4wB6pgu3U=; b=gDHatI8S6WU+Ju3SHAYmPsadzsh3US+Qjr+XANb7lMrk3/F3LYywhfnhQL7UaS1Wvm XWbnCewJGSTstRycOodcTHwRs+MEsIBybtzezAjonDYroWZHeGC1ZJDe3Rc2HqxfHKGW s/RBhg+tLCs+sXaq8SAXkSsNfzJ+vSzDZXTaT2cXErzo12d2eVKkLTgbdGmS4W/GBxij gQedu/fAASy5rbWt1w8ZPrrHc/82EgQKbqc7jFOWsL+1QVSpi6I6K97tvyI88d8SRyvM qiwKX7ggWUjsmwrXpk8bOnOsvYO13rNkKwc1JnMcn7Wg2ymS6McOyO2UpS8PoQLwjmBk sOSw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=5jPqNMR2nMRfu0Ymd8FU6nfHkDKSOz01oL4wB6pgu3U=; b=aEJ7rFgqeCUVdcgaQgbq9G5scgdTU+mxISI7s3GChZa7sgfy8UT4S9xHzw5W0hLknZ VJ8hcpIg94XD+oZtwtwQYJ/lJNP81r1RhiKgvfF5rpFX5Vro8ZmIv74lqxXY/7WQ4GTo zm6aQWihbHnkpwGbeLPhN/gMryVm1Z7SzgTr8yQfZXdzVL9ScPsJqRmO457nqCLN/Lzi SYvTogsh6G5gR7SNO5bRe45qIJddZeYAEcyGxIXxLnKaUmmlY1WDCy1PbZEY7wFr31rh 5Kg+DY6ytZLVHBDojPIX2rJzbkFaFgQcV8my+l2GKd5N154lNFWJbqOdZkckOrtSOMH7 gYpQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gKETf8rXq6EhqtxSlC5kWWS6TgRYW65TSu5uP56Rth98zeZHVTL q7yPAhmGRUxMpwN3zOAGL0yAHW5l1GhGGjt/CQE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5f0YvNF9aEAWBwO1ECxMxJitRihtcHtqXkmSopGWCEKM2kBVHUd486dRtz+ixxN33ka9eAxLP2G4qBEn0uFANk= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:2538:: with SMTP id k53mr1120347otb.156.1540374823933; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 02:53:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1525433439975-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <1525438861145-0.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: From: David Baptista Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 10:53:32 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Articulate script plus grace notes following multiple voices results in timing errors To: pkx166h@runbox.com Cc: torsten.haemmerle@web.de, bug-lilypond@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::332 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: bug-lilypond@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond Bug Reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 09:53:50 -0000 I think it is a single issue, but because it happens at the music expression level, it can manifest itself in both engraving and midi "rendering". Essentially the articulate script introduces wrong musical content, that is not present at the input, under certain conditions (an hypothetical parallel to help categorize the issue would be if articulate always added a whole bar full of C#'s to the music - it would be a glich present in both midi and engraving output). In this case we are talking about adding extra time/pause/rests to the music when articulate processes a music expression where grace notes follow the use of multiple voices. Examples: http://lilybin.com/97o636/2 - Here you cannot see the glitch visually because the articulate output is not engraved, only used for midi output. But you can hear from the midi output that extra time has been added to the top staff after the grace note, resulting in that staff being out of sync with the staff below. http://lilybin.com/97o636/1 - Here you can see the glitch visually because I rendered the articulate output (I understand no one in their right mind would do this in a normal scenario, but I believe it is helpful here because we can visualize the extra time that has been added, confirming that this is not a midi rendering problem, but a problem with articulate script introducing wrong musical content not present at the input). (Because GNU's mailing lists archives aren't always easy to follow, an easy to follow thread archive with the previous discussion of this issue is available at http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Articulate-script-plus-grace-notes-fo= llowing-multiple-voices-results-in-timing-errors-td212650.html ) Where does this manifest in regular use? Essentially in piano and orchestral scores, where use of multiple voices within a staff are common and grace notes are relatively common. Users with this use case relying on articulate to produce "better than bland" midi output will suffer from midi output with timing issues (essentially resulting in wrong playback with some staves being out of time with the rest of the music). The workaround as of now requires rewriting the music to avoid having grace notes following multiple voices (in my case this forced me to have different musical expressions for engraving and for midi output). Best regards, David Baptista James Lowe escreveu no dia quarta, 24/10/2018 =C3=A0(s= ) 09:16: > Hello, > > On 22/10/2018 5:57 pm, David Baptista wrote: > > Did this bug end up being materialized on the tracker? (I was looking i= f > > there had been any follow-up on the sourceforge bug tracker but was > unable > > to find it there). > > > > Best regards, > > David Baptista > > No it does not look like anything was added to the tracker based on the > date of this thread. > > However I am having a struggle understanding what the 'concise' request > is here, to be able to add something - i.e. is it an output / engraving > issue or an 'audio' / midi-specific issue or both (in which case we > probably need two trackers). > > Thank you. > > James > > > > Torsten H=C3=A4mmerle escreveu no dia sexta, > > 4/05/2018 =C3=A0(s) 14:01: > > > >> David Baptista wrote > >>> Thank you for the speedy reply. > >> Ok, I admit it was too speedy... > >> Yes, you are right, I confirm to have the same effect here. > >> > >> That, indeed, calls for a tracker issue. > >> > >> All the best and thanks for the hint, > >> Torsten > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Sent from: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Bugs-f58488.html > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> bug-lilypond mailing list > >> bug-lilypond@gnu.org > >> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > bug-lilypond mailing list > > bug-lilypond@gnu.org > > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond > From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Oct 24 06:28:59 2018 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1gFGPL-0004gg-88 for mharc-bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 06:28:59 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54963) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gFGPD-0004WR-Ha for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 06:28:56 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gFGPA-0008WV-2G for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 06:28:51 -0400 Received: from aibo.runbox.com ([91.220.196.211]:56016) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gFGP9-0008Ri-Ep for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 06:28:47 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=runbox.com; s=rbselector1; h=Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:From: References:Cc:To:Subject:Reply-To; bh=rPGMl+BtNTNel2GEK0o/fsz76FHyP0NzNcBefGdJpCs=; b=UErcODnLAJkKV9QJ8bnCAbyFod bYbGy3zEUhAasFzsJMr2emYZQba8Z14hJOtkaKIdAGgWVPuFskihaHPot9JPkhQ+pzzYbCSJB9XNI 7H8KV9scZPlC8WEivI4hOKiScqHCv5DiCGULWwnXGSd5aojXiW6E50l8iMfg5kwiiJiokpaDjS//s DjqrY7fCjYmktMkVBBUgJztOzSr7EvhMliHSWZxE/xiGjEsQmgpO5ho+WpF+8Sje6kJZkDqpDBlcY FqiMCWba9JIw8jxLKkKiS3GvA8yCr1d/GnSqndzM12m3iYkJUcLiqDamG0Nr4UkCOaDLfrTZdZhFE i2Grs0OQ==; Received: from [10.9.9.212] (helo=mailfront12.runbox.com) by mailtransmit02.runbox with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gFGP7-00042w-4f; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 12:28:45 +0200 Received: by mailfront12.runbox.com with esmtpsa (uid:896525 ) (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) id 1gFGOp-00041e-R9; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 12:28:28 +0200 Reply-To: pkx166h@runbox.com Subject: Re: Articulate script plus grace notes following multiple voices results in timing errors To: David Baptista Cc: torsten.haemmerle@web.de, bug-lilypond@gnu.org References: <1525433439975-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <1525438861145-0.post@n5.nabble.com> From: James Lowe Message-ID: <98148cd1-cc91-6306-24fc-13f3a1e73ec9@runbox.com> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 11:28:26 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 91.220.196.211 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: bug-lilypond@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond Bug Reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 10:28:56 -0000 David, On 24/10/2018 10:53 am, David Baptista wrote: > I think it is a single issue, but because it happens at the music > expression level, it can manifest itself in both engraving and midi > "rendering". Essentially the articulate script introduces wrong > musical content, that is not present at the input, under certain > conditions (an hypothetical parallel to help categorize the issue > would be if articulate always added a whole bar full of C#'s to the > music - it would be a glich present in both midi and engraving > output). In this case we are talking about adding extra > time/pause/rests to the music when articulate processes a music > expression where grace notes follow the use of multiple voices. Examples: > > http://lilybin.com/97o636/2 - Here you cannot see the glitch visually > because the articulate output is not engraved, only used for midi > output. But you can hear from the midi output that extra time has been > added to the top staff after the grace note, resulting in that staff > being out of sync with the staff below. > > http://lilybin.com/97o636/1 - Here you can see the glitch visually > because I rendered the articulate output (I understand no one in their > right mind would do this in a normal scenario, but I believe it is > helpful here because we can visualize the extra time that has been > added, confirming that this is not a midi rendering problem, but a > problem with articulate script introducing wrong musical content not > present at the input). > > (Because GNU's mailing lists archives aren't always easy to follow, an > easy to follow thread archive with the previous discussion of this > issue is available at > http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Articulate-script-plus-grace-notes-following-multiple-voices-results-in-timing-errors-td212650.html) > > Where does this manifest in regular use? Essentially in piano and > orchestral scores, where use of multiple voices within a staff are > common and grace notes are relatively common. Users with this use case > relying on articulate to produce "better than bland" midi output will > suffer from midi output with timing issues (essentially resulting in > wrong playback with some staves being out of time with the rest of the > music). The workaround as of now requires rewriting the music to avoid > having grace notes following multiple voices (in my case this forced > me to have different musical expressions for engraving and for midi > output). > > Best regards, > David Baptista Thank you for that. I'll take what you have written here and us it to create a new tracker for this and send an email to the list with the URL/number. Jamess > > James Lowe > escreveu > no dia quarta, 24/10/2018 à(s) 09:16: > > Hello, > > On 22/10/2018 5:57 pm, David Baptista wrote: > > Did this bug end up being materialized on the tracker? (I was > looking if > > there had been any follow-up on the sourceforge bug tracker but > was unable > > to find it there). > > > > Best regards, > > David Baptista > > No it does not look like anything was added to the tracker based > on the > date of this thread. > > However I am having a struggle understanding what the 'concise' > request > is here, to be able to add something - i.e. is it an output / > engraving > issue or an 'audio' / midi-specific issue or both (in which case we > probably need two trackers). > > Thank you. > > James > > > > Torsten Hämmerle > escreveu no dia sexta, > > 4/05/2018 à(s) 14:01: > > > >> David Baptista wrote > >>> Thank you for the speedy reply. > >> Ok, I admit it was too speedy... > >> Yes, you are right, I confirm to have the same effect here. > >> > >> That, indeed, calls for a tracker issue. > >> > >> All the best and thanks for the hint, > >> Torsten > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Sent from: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Bugs-f58488.html > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> bug-lilypond mailing list > >> bug-lilypond@gnu.org > >> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > bug-lilypond mailing list > > bug-lilypond@gnu.org > > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond > From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Oct 24 06:35:43 2018 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1gFGVr-0006k1-EV for mharc-bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 06:35:43 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57705) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gFGVo-0006jt-26 for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 06:35:41 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gFGVm-0003H4-A2 for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 06:35:39 -0400 Received: from mail-oi1-x22d.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::22d]:35449) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gFGVj-0003CV-P8 for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 06:35:37 -0400 Received: by mail-oi1-x22d.google.com with SMTP id 22-v6so3660600oiz.2 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 03:35:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=dIqdZiHpi6JiX7WvRL9Gzj3qYMDvxLBaiY5TlwHHqXA=; b=OsL9ZM1PCwAXTjsdbmgBFxkmhjMnadMWWvmACIYl8aiHq5YzChg0F/z+xJbPAWGRbK DJ1tUnOcf33vIp+9eyOaKUZ4SzQDZQqA5GdvVMTjoEpdAFbJglBbR53MrYr0mbTq8zQE MfLbgT+3Q8wZgc3aGboa097Qz9IPhX4T9E1YIqT2hJhrSNdTH7Oo0gEVgwcA+xOPVHLf FxPkpOiH5Hj13veJ8FZaFaw8ggFwV5hzeDQdl4ykY/oSYWRK21L1KF9vC94ThVRLtUMY vfaDo58176A1/MXVLPmBLHXMfay4b0K7QEkEvkjA6CPYYbtRbUaSwONh7mOE+qvpRffo 5saw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=dIqdZiHpi6JiX7WvRL9Gzj3qYMDvxLBaiY5TlwHHqXA=; b=ZNv/PgT2DO3NQ4wssM0a5fBv6E4zfK6FF0U/DtnHVqHNx6MuaS0PJ/kCrOMi8xpxfy HoOtA7b0l8qz/vcDkiaNmmjlZRjSEn4rFaBZQ8YJfnC1z6lKyxpllGZ1VzWfIoLYy9Lo y1Ofyi1wWnRKP90pN4hT7Wwm1hn6rAtIUIfwLxBhfZ5TiO2+Q74P2nNsnQAogtqcKLrO OktIIrCkb3fL6GfW5/FZ9xHkYOPCZl8W8ZcGFBbCSQ3WxIOn9/AmWJ7HuNNzrWbzlTg6 w50xHknECEQSnp6iRG/f/UozlxKTSvHcSYzl/LS/cS+516F5diZVuABGjOItslr+Wxap gdnQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gJ9zD9nARiEaIboNl/d4RkL7OqfgIkGRqIJuC4Lg/I9k/76IBv8 /UUke2XcjAmWj536miAYQMT8WSTloSTw9WgssLo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5d4XbHa8B2gSEjc/gqGq2dMeSsxASqE9x9QoAOB4WxBgHC3V1sYxbr+o0S9NJTxRHB37BA0PM5A8HJy5v/CNDM= X-Received: by 2002:aca:754b:: with SMTP id q72-v6mr1127601oic.13.1540377318908; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 03:35:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1525433439975-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <1525438861145-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <98148cd1-cc91-6306-24fc-13f3a1e73ec9@runbox.com> In-Reply-To: <98148cd1-cc91-6306-24fc-13f3a1e73ec9@runbox.com> From: David Baptista Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 11:35:07 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Articulate script plus grace notes following multiple voices results in timing errors To: pkx166h@runbox.com Cc: torsten.haemmerle@web.de, bug-lilypond@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::22d Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: bug-lilypond@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond Bug Reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 10:35:42 -0000 Thank you, I reckon it might not be a bug encountered often, but since it is a consistently reproducible issue, it seemed worth of listing in the issue tracker. Best regards, David Baptista James Lowe escreveu no dia quarta, 24/10/2018 =C3=A0(s= ) 11:28: > David, > On 24/10/2018 10:53 am, David Baptista wrote: > > I think it is a single issue, but because it happens at the music > expression level, it can manifest itself in both engraving and midi > "rendering". Essentially the articulate script introduces wrong musical > content, that is not present at the input, under certain conditions (an > hypothetical parallel to help categorize the issue would be if articulate > always added a whole bar full of C#'s to the music - it would be a glich > present in both midi and engraving output). In this case we are talking > about adding extra time/pause/rests to the music when articulate processe= s > a music expression where grace notes follow the use of multiple voices. > Examples: > > http://lilybin.com/97o636/2 - Here you cannot see the glitch visually > because the articulate output is not engraved, only used for midi output. > But you can hear from the midi output that extra time has been added to t= he > top staff after the grace note, resulting in that staff being out of sync > with the staff below. > > http://lilybin.com/97o636/1 - Here you can see the glitch visually > because I rendered the articulate output (I understand no one in their > right mind would do this in a normal scenario, but I believe it is helpfu= l > here because we can visualize the extra time that has been added, > confirming that this is not a midi rendering problem, but a problem with > articulate script introducing wrong musical content not present at the > input). > > (Because GNU's mailing lists archives aren't always easy to follow, an > easy to follow thread archive with the previous discussion of this issue = is > available at > http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Articulate-script-plus-grace-notes-= following-multiple-voices-results-in-timing-errors-td212650.html > ) > > Where does this manifest in regular use? Essentially in piano and > orchestral scores, where use of multiple voices within a staff are common > and grace notes are relatively common. Users with this use case relying o= n > articulate to produce "better than bland" midi output will suffer from mi= di > output with timing issues (essentially resulting in wrong playback with > some staves being out of time with the rest of the music). The workaround > as of now requires rewriting the music to avoid having grace notes > following multiple voices (in my case this forced me to have different > musical expressions for engraving and for midi output). > > Best regards, > David Baptista > > Thank you for that. > > I'll take what you have written here and us it to create a new tracker fo= r > this and send an email to the list with the URL/number. > > Jamess > > > > > James Lowe escreveu no dia quarta, 24/10/2018 =C3=A0= (s) > 09:16: > >> Hello, >> >> On 22/10/2018 5:57 pm, David Baptista wrote: >> > Did this bug end up being materialized on the tracker? (I was looking = if >> > there had been any follow-up on the sourceforge bug tracker but was >> unable >> > to find it there). >> > >> > Best regards, >> > David Baptista >> >> No it does not look like anything was added to the tracker based on the >> date of this thread. >> >> However I am having a struggle understanding what the 'concise' request >> is here, to be able to add something - i.e. is it an output / engraving >> issue or an 'audio' / midi-specific issue or both (in which case we >> probably need two trackers). >> >> Thank you. >> >> James >> >> >> > Torsten H=C3=A4mmerle escreveu no dia sexta= , >> > 4/05/2018 =C3=A0(s) 14:01: >> > >> >> David Baptista wrote >> >>> Thank you for the speedy reply. >> >> Ok, I admit it was too speedy... >> >> Yes, you are right, I confirm to have the same effect here. >> >> >> >> That, indeed, calls for a tracker issue. >> >> >> >> All the best and thanks for the hint, >> >> Torsten >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Sent from: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Bugs-f58488.html >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> bug-lilypond mailing list >> >> bug-lilypond@gnu.org >> >> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > bug-lilypond mailing list >> > bug-lilypond@gnu.org >> > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond >> > From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Oct 24 06:57:50 2018 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1gFGrG-0005VU-QY for mharc-bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 06:57:50 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35712) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gFGrB-0005QL-Rr for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 06:57:49 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gFGr3-0001II-DP for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 06:57:42 -0400 Received: from aibo.runbox.com ([91.220.196.211]:58222) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gFGr1-0001EE-8n for bug-lilypond@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 06:57:37 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=runbox.com; s=rbselector1; h=Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:From: References:Cc:To:Subject:Reply-To; bh=TJz5mSGkE+1rS7l+dI+zxekhzVhZvvA8i5RmxT4TzMQ=; b=JM/AkuRG/uNKhpOuubvMVNeaW7 /B3Q0xuzBJjbYNVv/jmo4sBY+A+QIfAQfJ3+aP6CzMBKSZoHTWvdqflmPulMUe1su/q4x7dT+RYZT uMWxtAwCdPztAswrBB2ljgs64t9lX71Li4vNS8RyYGSynaaFddLrIUMBtPC3/e01uVnpCbgFsPrAe ATSZrn6Rr21csfem9fS8IbWdrz2sRwz6/b9y1IPMZ+huApReWnnUbk3GlhCwZoPWXQmAQCUXXQNt0 h0A7AdE36PD+65EsJlTdxGxwX9BZAswt1ZRQR95huN+cz/+67qaCL8TSUrhsT1gRDAGIIp0mJqh6a b5oQES4g==; Received: from [10.9.9.212] (helo=mailfront12.runbox.com) by mailtransmit02.runbox with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gFGqx-0006Hy-6N; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 12:57:31 +0200 Received: by mailfront12.runbox.com with esmtpsa (uid:896525 ) (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) id 1gFGqn-0002Eu-Tj; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 12:57:22 +0200 Reply-To: pkx166h@runbox.com Subject: Re: Articulate script plus grace notes following multiple voices results in timing errors To: David Baptista Cc: torsten.haemmerle@web.de, bug-lilypond@gnu.org References: <1525433439975-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <1525438861145-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <98148cd1-cc91-6306-24fc-13f3a1e73ec9@runbox.com> From: James Lowe Message-ID: Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 11:57:21 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 91.220.196.211 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: bug-lilypond@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond Bug Reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 10:57:49 -0000 Hello, On 24/10/2018 11:35 am, David Baptista wrote: > Thank you, I reckon it might not be a bug encountered often, but since > it is a consistently reproducible issue, it seemed worth of listing in > the issue tracker. > > Best regards, > David Baptista Added as: https://sourceforge.net/p/testlilyissues/issues/5431/ Thank you. James > > James Lowe > escreveu > no dia quarta, 24/10/2018 à(s) 11:28: > > David, > > On 24/10/2018 10:53 am, David Baptista wrote: >> I think it is a single issue, but because it happens at the music >> expression level, it can manifest itself in both engraving and >> midi "rendering". Essentially the articulate script introduces >> wrong musical content, that is not present at the input, under >> certain conditions (an hypothetical parallel to help categorize >> the issue would be if articulate always added a whole bar full of >> C#'s to the music - it would be a glich present in both midi and >> engraving output). In this case we are talking about adding extra >> time/pause/rests to the music when articulate processes a music >> expression where grace notes follow the use of multiple voices. >> Examples: >> >> http://lilybin.com/97o636/2 - Here you cannot see the glitch >> visually because the articulate output is not engraved, only used >> for midi output. But you can hear from the midi output that extra >> time has been added to the top staff after the grace note, >> resulting in that staff being out of sync with the staff below. >> >> http://lilybin.com/97o636/1 - Here you can see the glitch >> visually because I rendered the articulate output (I understand >> no one in their right mind would do this in a normal scenario, >> but I believe it is helpful here because we can visualize the >> extra time that has been added, confirming that this is not a >> midi rendering problem, but a problem with articulate script >> introducing wrong musical content not present at the input). >> >> (Because GNU's mailing lists archives aren't always easy to >> follow, an easy to follow thread archive with the previous >> discussion of this issue is available at >> http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Articulate-script-plus-grace-notes-following-multiple-voices-results-in-timing-errors-td212650.html) >> >> Where does this manifest in regular use? Essentially in piano and >> orchestral scores, where use of multiple voices within a staff >> are common and grace notes are relatively common. Users with this >> use case relying on articulate to produce "better than bland" >> midi output will suffer from midi output with timing issues >> (essentially resulting in wrong playback with some staves being >> out of time with the rest of the music). The workaround as of now >> requires rewriting the music to avoid having grace notes >> following multiple voices (in my case this forced me to have >> different musical expressions for engraving and for midi output). >> >> Best regards, >> David Baptista > > Thank you for that. > > I'll take what you have written here and us it to create a new > tracker for this and send an email to the list with the URL/number. > > Jamess > > > >> >> James Lowe > >> escreveu no dia quarta, 24/10/2018 à(s) 09:16: >> >> Hello, >> >> On 22/10/2018 5:57 pm, David Baptista wrote: >> > Did this bug end up being materialized on the tracker? (I >> was looking if >> > there had been any follow-up on the sourceforge bug tracker >> but was unable >> > to find it there). >> > >> > Best regards, >> > David Baptista >> >> No it does not look like anything was added to the tracker >> based on the >> date of this thread. >> >> However I am having a struggle understanding what the >> 'concise' request >> is here, to be able to add something - i.e. is it an output / >> engraving >> issue or an 'audio' / midi-specific issue or both (in which >> case we >> probably need two trackers). >> >> Thank you. >> >> James >> >> >> > Torsten Hämmerle > > escreveu no dia sexta, >> > 4/05/2018 à(s) 14:01: >> > >> >> David Baptista wrote >> >>> Thank you for the speedy reply. >> >> Ok, I admit it was too speedy... >> >> Yes, you are right, I confirm to have the same effect here. >> >> >> >> That, indeed, calls for a tracker issue. >> >> >> >> All the best and thanks for the hint, >> >> Torsten >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Sent from: >> http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Bugs-f58488.html >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> bug-lilypond mailing list >> >> bug-lilypond@gnu.org >> >> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > bug-lilypond mailing list >> > bug-lilypond@gnu.org >> > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond >>