From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Dec 06 08:53:17 2015 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1a5Zka-0002EX-KN for mharc-dolibarr-dev@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 08:53:16 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34968) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a5ZkY-00027T-2m for dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 08:53:15 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a5ZkX-0001V3-4p for dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 08:53:14 -0500 Received: from mail-vk0-x22d.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400c:c05::22d]:35611) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a5ZkX-0001Ui-0t for dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 08:53:13 -0500 Received: by vkha189 with SMTP id a189so89119596vkh.2 for ; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 05:53:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=destailleur-fr.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=cSiQuh41A1yXo4APrYlKNs9ePdw2QX7IoZEIjP0C+hc=; b=f9NVTo1Pm9iYV+yR6Og2XAAX0AvIN8YSDaBJVpl8zXmKZXO4NNb6+gCKRIHl5ARrxW 9v/KuAjZZs5YFQb91qTXlMxlFxIrXwdRSJi+UwHi10jZnt00iv1Dl7OyOePsGVdEwEEq /aoXZO4J06R/HfOKjDAcWfs9kOX9GSRqsWzqIhYloFHyXURpJKk7NCP9sjusYQj8+wzq HhmJyFUmilyNQXCGovp9m8tSiQuCeRYTcEZwIE5IvVo6jr2trMC4WUH0Z2d0apnHMl7C h6tl0+V1E1wcnbtirYgVDP61dBTviMFOsOBaGPFq5oXyS9dVvtE8VMVKUOsRqj7aFird j22g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=cSiQuh41A1yXo4APrYlKNs9ePdw2QX7IoZEIjP0C+hc=; b=k2X/ZOz38ytZOACspMhQ8oRcj79PT4NcxVXfY3mOIVj74EM/69UM69ghPHQ6fTUx3l f7zbmpfX9iY5/tPQhxsp3+2GtaY1Wi0uGIgxEAh2dAoiganh7gqGnoq3SLbL9i0QiROX 8a5C2wVdBfGI6jS7WHWEBONjFiVQo5lWWYuzvfwvLRDUPomFl8aPEucKlHVvRfRwOdW2 HvkdtI2+C0TQwTIh3rNN0M2wFGsNqXMROqcaTOcmDrtcaLP5s2OUGN2MuGc8kNEmW7UY 8wZE9bh6FGetFg+giVEq14Ddu5mLJUMgKz17XYg7Uq4dEHGXmRGiteWXwQc3ZWJvzN2j lXHQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmyCz/30W4YNqDN9HCbXHEGT7xy6mUFJOw9KiYrk6AMu53Fu45Uf/fMfWf69ouAITbVYmHF X-Received: by 10.31.49.147 with SMTP id x141mr17603888vkx.1.1449409992157; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 05:53:12 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.31.34.9 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 05:52:52 -0800 (PST) From: "Laurent Destailleur (aka Eldy)" Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2015 14:52:52 +0100 Message-ID: To: ML Dolibarr dev Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11438346b7800605263b0ff9 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400c:c05::22d Subject: [Dolibarr-dev] Dolibarr 3.9 freeze X-BeenThere: dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding List-Id: Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2015 13:53:15 -0000 --001a11438346b7800605263b0ff9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 As usual, i am a little bit late compared to roadmap for the annoucement of the freez of version 3.9 There was so exiting changes into interface on the road that i would like to have them finished and stable to start the freeze. It's done. Starting from today, no new features will be added from PR. I will create the branch 3.9 soon, but please, everybody, let's start to debug the current develop version ans send fixes. Version 3.9 should have a better compatibility with external modules that 3.8, so i think you can already check your externale modules are still working. The Changelog provides information on what was necessarly changed and may create regression for external modules. Laurent (eldy) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Google+: https://plus.google.com/+LaurentDestailleur/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Destailleur.Laurent Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/eldy10 --001a11438346b7800605263b0ff9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

As usual, i am a little bit late compared t= o roadmap for the annoucement of the freez of version 3.9

There was so exiting changes into interface on the road that i would like= to have them finished and stable to start the freeze.
It's d= one.

Starting from today, no new features will be = added from PR.

I will create the branch 3.9 soon, = but please, everybody, let's start to debug the current develop version= ans send fixes.=C2=A0


Version 3.9 = should have a better compatibility with external modules that 3.8, so i thi= nk you can already check your externale modules are still working.
The Changelog provides information on what was necessarly changed and may= create regression for external modules.

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--001a11438346b7800605263b0ff9-- From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Dec 06 09:09:26 2015 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1a5a0E-0005vh-3H for mharc-dolibarr-dev@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 09:09:26 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37644) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a5a0B-0005ui-BB for dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 09:09:24 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a5a08-0004Qm-2N for dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 09:09:23 -0500 Received: from 9.mo69.mail-out.ovh.net ([46.105.56.78]:54079) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a5a07-0004Po-PX for dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 09:09:19 -0500 Received: from mail409.ha.ovh.net (b9.ovh.net [213.186.33.59]) by mo69.mail-out.ovh.net (Postfix) with SMTP id C2B78FFC75F for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 15:09:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (HELO queueout) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Dec 2015 16:09:17 +0200 Received: from mon69-3-82-235-38-14.fbx.proxad.net (HELO charlesPC) (charles.fr@benke.fr@82.235.38.14) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 6 Dec 2015 16:09:16 +0200 From: "charles benke.fr" To: "'Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding'" References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2015 15:09:42 +0100 Message-ID: <000901d1302f$c1008d10$4301a730$@benke.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01D13038.22C62D90" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQKMEyCRdJyXJDTT58Ztc0ZHLeFp6J1IOG1A Content-Language: fr X-Ovh-Tracer-Id: 4723150110971802599 X-Ovh-Remote: 82.235.38.14 (mon69-3-82-235-38-14.fbx.proxad.net) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-OVH-SPAMSTATE: OK X-OVH-SPAMSCORE: -100 X-OVH-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrfeekiedruddtucetufdoteggodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfqggfjnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmd X-VR-SPAMSTATE: OK X-VR-SPAMSCORE: -100 X-VR-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrfeekiedruddtucetufdoteggodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfqggfjnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmd X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x (no timestamps) [generic] X-Received-From: 46.105.56.78 Subject: Re: [Dolibarr-dev] Dolibarr 3.9 freeze X-BeenThere: dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding List-Id: Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2015 14:09:24 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01D13038.22C62D90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Laurent Please don=E2=80=99t freez the 3.9 till end of year,=20 we have planned 3 week of work on accounting modules whose a real = advance on Dolibarr than a better interface and I don=E2=80=99t the advancement on native multidevis on=20 =20 Charlie (defrance) =20 =20 De : dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3Dbenke.fr@nongnu.org = [mailto:dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3Dbenke.fr@nongnu.org] De la = part de Laurent Destailleur (aka Eldy) Envoy=C3=A9 : dimanche 6 d=C3=A9cembre 2015 14:53 =C3=80 : ML Dolibarr dev Objet : [Dolibarr-dev] Dolibarr 3.9 freeze =20 =20 As usual, i am a little bit late compared to roadmap for the annoucement = of the freez of version 3.9 =20 There was so exiting changes into interface on the road that i would = like to have them finished and stable to start the freeze. It's done. =20 Starting from today, no new features will be added from PR. =20 I will create the branch 3.9 soon, but please, everybody, let's start to = debug the current develop version ans send fixes.=20 =20 =20 Version 3.9 should have a better compatibility with external modules = that 3.8, so i think you can already check your externale modules are = still working. The Changelog provides information on what was necessarly changed and = may create regression for external modules. =20 =20 =20 Laurent (eldy) -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----------- Google+: = https://plus.google.com/+LaurentDestailleur/ Facebook: = https://www.facebook.com/Destailleur.Laurent Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/eldy10 ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01D13038.22C62D90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello Laurent

Please don=E2=80=99t freez the 3.9 till end = of year,

we have planned 3 week of work on accounting = modules whose a real advance on Dolibarr than a better = interface

and I don=E2=80=99t the advancement on = native multidevis on

 

Charlie (defrance)

 

 

De : = dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3Dbenke.fr@nongnu.org = [mailto:dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3Dbenke.fr@nongnu.org] De la = part de Laurent Destailleur (aka Eldy)
Envoy=C3=A9 : = dimanche 6 d=C3=A9cembre 2015 14:53
=C3=80 : ML Dolibarr = dev <dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org>
Objet : = [Dolibarr-dev] Dolibarr 3.9 freeze

 

 

As = usual, i am a little bit late compared to roadmap for the annoucement of = the freez of version 3.9

 

There was so exiting changes into interface on the = road that i would like to have them finished and stable to start the = freeze.

It's = done.

 

Starting from today, no new features will be added = from PR.

 

I = will create the branch 3.9 soon, but please, everybody, let's start to = debug the current develop version ans send = fixes. 

 

 

Version 3.9 should have a better compatibility with = external modules that 3.8, so i think you can already check your = externale modules are still working.

The Changelog provides information on what was = necessarly changed and may create regression for external = modules.


 

 

 

Laurent = (eldy)
---------------------------------------------------------------= ---------------------
Google+: https://plus.google.com/+LaurentDestailleur/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Destailleur.Laurent
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/eldy10

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      Can you create 3.8_backport branch ?

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Le 06/12/2015 15:09, charles benke.fr a écrit :

Hello Laurent

Please don’t freez the 3.9 till end of year,

we have planned 3 week of work on accounting modules whose a real advance on Dolibarr than a better interface

and I don’t the advancement on native multidevis on

 

Charlie (defrance)

 

 

De : dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=benke.fr@nongnu.org [mailto:dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=benke.fr@nongnu.org] De la part de Laurent Destailleur (aka Eldy)
Envoyé : dimanche 6 décembre 2015 14:53
À : ML Dolibarr dev <dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org>
Objet : [Dolibarr-dev] Dolibarr 3.9 freeze

 

 

As usual, i am a little bit late compared to roadmap for the annoucement of the freez of version 3.9

 

There was so exiting changes into interface on the road that i would like to have them finished and stable to start the freeze.

It's done.

 

Starting from today, no new features will be added from PR.

 

I will create the branch 3.9 soon, but please, everybody, let's start to debug the current develop version ans send fixes. 

 

 

Version 3.9 should have a better compatibility with external modules that 3.8, so i think you can already check your externale modules are still working.

The Changelog provides information on what was necessarly changed and may create regression for external modules.


 

 

 

Laurent (eldy)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Destailleur.Laurent
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L'objectif est de pouvoir param=C3=A9tr=C3=A9 certaine constante.

Merci de votre retour.


--------------000201020201010301020601-- --------------050706070306020702090907 Content-Type: text/x-patch; name="patch_asterisk_wrapper.diff" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="patch_asterisk_wrapper.diff" diff -BNaur ancien_rep/dolibarr/htdocs/asterisk/wrapper.php nouveau_rep/dolibarr/htdocs/asterisk/wrapper.php --- ancien_rep/dolibarr/htdocs/asterisk/wrapper.php 2015-12-07 15:43:00.652147214 +0100 +++ nouveau_rep/dolibarr/htdocs/asterisk/wrapper.php 2015-12-07 15:44:31.365941000 +0100 @@ -78,11 +78,6 @@ if (! isset($conf->global->ASTERISK_TYPE)) $conf->global->ASTERISK_TYPE="SIP/"; if (! isset($conf->global->ASTERISK_INDICATIF)) $conf->global->ASTERISK_INDICATIF="0"; if (! isset($conf->global->ASTERISK_PORT)) $conf->global->ASTERISK_PORT=5038; -if (! isset($conf->global->ASTERISK_CONTEXT)) $conf->global->ASTERISK_CONTEXT="from-internal"; -if (! isset($conf->global->ASTERISK_WAIT_TIME)) $conf->global->ASTERISK_WAIT_TIME="30"; -if (! isset($conf->global->ASTERISK_PRIORITY)) $conf->global->ASTERISK_PRIORITY="1"; -if (! 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D=E9sol=E9

Le 07/12/2015 15:53, Thomas Legay a =E9crit=A0:
Bonjour,

Suite =E0 mon post sur le forum, vous trouverez un patch que j'ai fait.

L'objectif est de pouvoir param=E9tr=E9 certaine constante.

Merci de votre retour.




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--------------030306090702000707090206-- --------------050301080205090808060708 Content-Type: text/x-patch; name="patch_asterisk_wrapper.diff" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="patch_asterisk_wrapper.diff" diff -BNaur ancien_rep/dolibarr/htdocs/asterisk/wrapper.php nouveau_rep/dolibarr/htdocs/asterisk/wrapper.php --- ancien_rep/dolibarr/htdocs/asterisk/wrapper.php 2015-12-07 15:44:31.365941000 +0100 +++ nouveau_rep/dolibarr/htdocs/asterisk/wrapper.php 2015-12-07 15:43:00.652147214 +0100 @@ -78,6 +78,11 @@ if (! isset($conf->global->ASTERISK_TYPE)) $conf->global->ASTERISK_TYPE="SIP/"; if (! isset($conf->global->ASTERISK_INDICATIF)) $conf->global->ASTERISK_INDICATIF="0"; if (! isset($conf->global->ASTERISK_PORT)) $conf->global->ASTERISK_PORT=5038; +if (! isset($conf->global->ASTERISK_CONTEXT)) $conf->global->ASTERISK_CONTEXT="from-internal"; +if (! isset($conf->global->ASTERISK_WAIT_TIME)) $conf->global->ASTERISK_WAIT_TIME="30"; +if (! isset($conf->global->ASTERISK_PRIORITY)) $conf->global->ASTERISK_PRIORITY="1"; +if (! isset($conf->global->ASTERISK_MAX_RETRY)) $conf->global->ASTERISK_MAX_RETRY="2"; + if ($conf->global->ASTERISK_INDICATIF=='NONE') $conf->global->ASTERISK_INDICATIF=''; @@ -96,14 +101,13 @@ // Port $port = $conf->global->ASTERISK_PORT; // Context ( generalement from-internal ) -$strContext = "from-internal"; - +$strContext = $conf->global->ASTERISK_CONTEXT; // Delai d'attente avant de raccrocher -$strWaitTime = "30"; +$strWaitTime = $conf->global->ASTERISK_WAIT_TIME; // Priority -$strPriority = "1"; +$strPriority = $conf->global->ASTERISK_PRIORITY; // Nomber of try -$strMaxRetry = "2"; +$strMaxRetry = $conf->global->ASTERISK_MAX_RETRY; /* --------------050301080205090808060708-- From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Dec 07 15:32:52 2015 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1a62Sq-0003Ji-Rz for mharc-dolibarr-dev@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 15:32:52 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38603) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a62Sn-0003In-Oq for dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 15:32:51 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a62Sm-0004Z5-8u for dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 15:32:49 -0500 Received: from mail-vk0-x235.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400c:c05::235]:34212) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a62Sm-0004Yo-1m for dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 15:32:48 -0500 Received: by vkbs1 with SMTP id s1so110017928vkb.1 for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 12:32:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=jeffinfo-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=liwHyd3cTE8N+hzTKprCUVnRXzUH6UBTeySybfuIFaA=; b=tae8FSzm9oa8GzJ3ewqY/JdtnlBF7nFfM9fwB+h45aCo3N8ngcqwdkAGkdlZKZ7L6w LoK3WtmY7sCeeEgz5Xh/z/bpIPQMqpamnixuyR8z8Qixdut948r2E19Fe4zCWS+ES/pA 1URId3wLW36ChI0B7QlB9QrYDX93cVCY4TB3YDVWnB+JzEUijyWoyI3UI2TmUtBdqb4p m/e43JcWiI6pXPYMaEXruG9A5ywakIg3rZCCCAVBVD+iaIDNK6+elN6mccG1yDM3pW9a NvzWdytcgck/Lyn4dUfn+/dUw0ESJnTELtBTCMHA86UqCJF3fci4RxuTUJWj7gnCV5f9 xGNg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=liwHyd3cTE8N+hzTKprCUVnRXzUH6UBTeySybfuIFaA=; b=LV7jHLJsYDMkTOI1YQZwvKV2aFw506pBBVGJYAeNtjt3xV6sNm1I4sNNSir7qe24lL XM7mIpZkjhiBvpRFu80hfS79MPp+rJ1yQdAbEEhchtudGWX4fdYaJpWJaS3aTwxpsR3T Y8z/mP5EAV7OqbLt/Ff6OZaUcCWd0zJoSJMYrozMOqkalBZ3TiaIZd0DKp8kR/7Ukh/s nTm5c+BYy7LO4k6Ng+5wlqSxk9ioMHkoMhmZIVGmsKj33oWn/XtS8X4dvixFUpKiAdc0 FBsWHxw3PDYgofpFwVFryCKD8j//PrhdTg3u5ICiH917x5Nqla+sefuciA9q3WvMkJLm mJpg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkTOwWuTaKisFRJ2P01h69o4ASHjKhLtLK+YnlfnfzNvXroSKL1wdawQktIaB2m8BCBsyTS MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.31.160.144 with SMTP id j138mr23972148vke.59.1449520367138; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 12:32:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.31.80.199 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 12:32:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <56654ADE.7010108@open-concept.pro> References: <000901d1302f$c1008d10$4301a730$@benke.fr> <56654ADE.7010108@open-concept.pro> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 21:32:47 +0100 Message-ID: From: Olivier Geffroy To: "Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114277d6941845052654c21b X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400c:c05::235 Subject: Re: [Dolibarr-dev] Dolibarr 3.9 freeze X-BeenThere: dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding List-Id: Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 20:32:51 -0000 --001a114277d6941845052654c21b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, why launch the 3.9 ? we have a lot of problems with 3.8, it's disturbing for users. It will be better to spend the next 6 months in order to correct the 3.8 and show that we care about stability (don't be Microsoft..) my 2 cents 2015-12-07 10:01 GMT+01:00 Florian HENRY : > Laurent, > > Can you create 3.8_backport branch ? > > Regard > > Florian Henry+33 6 03 76 48 07florian.henry@open-concept.prohttp://www.op= en-concept.pro > Twitter : @_Open_Concept_ > Google+ : https://www.google.com/+Open-conceptPro > > Le 06/12/2015 15:09, charles benke.fr a =C3=A9crit : > > Hello Laurent > > Please don=E2=80=99t freez the 3.9 till end of year, > > we have planned 3 week of work on accounting modules whose a real advance > on Dolibarr than a better interface > > and I don=E2=80=99t the advancement on native multidevis on > > > > Charlie (defrance) > > > > > > *De :* dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3Dbenke.fr@nongnu.org [ > mailto:dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3Dbenke.fr@nongnu.org > ] *De la part de* > Laurent Destailleur (aka Eldy) > *Envoy=C3=A9 :* dimanche 6 d=C3=A9cembre 2015 14:53 > *=C3=80 :* ML Dolibarr dev > *Objet :* [Dolibarr-dev] Dolibarr 3.9 freeze > > > > > > As usual, i am a little bit late compared to roadmap for the annoucement > of the freez of version 3.9 > > > > There was so exiting changes into interface on the road that i would like > to have them finished and stable to start the freeze. > > It's done. > > > > Starting from today, no new features will be added from PR. > > > > I will create the branch 3.9 soon, but please, everybody, let's start to > debug the current develop version ans send fixes. > > > > > > Version 3.9 should have a better compatibility with external modules that > 3.8, so i think you can already check your externale modules are still > working. > > The Changelog provides information on what was necessarly changed and may > create regression for external modules. > > > > > > > > > Laurent (eldy) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----------- > Google+: https://plus.google.com/+LaurentDestailleur/ > Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Destailleur.Laurent > Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/eldy10 > > > _______________________________________________ > Dolibarr-dev mailing listDolibarr-dev@nongnu.orghttps://lists.nongnu.org/= mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev > > > > _______________________________________________ > Dolibarr-dev mailing list > Dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org > https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev > > --=20 *Olivier Geffroy**Consultant Informatique* *Jeffinfo a 15 ans cette ann=C3=A9e ---------------------= ----------------* *Jeffinfo SARL**295 rue d'aire **59660 Merville* *jeff@jeffinfo.com Gsm : 0608632740**Skype : darkj3ff* --001a114277d6941845052654c21b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,=C2=A0

why launch the 3.9 ?
we have a lot of problems with 3.8, it's disturbing for users. It= will be better to spend the next 6 months in order to correct the 3.8 and = show that we care about stability (don't be Microsoft..)
my 2= cents

2015-12-07 10:01 GMT+01:00 Florian HENRY <florian.henry@open= -concept.pro>:
=20 =20 =20
Laurent,

=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Can you create 3.8_backport branch ?

Regard
Florian Henry
+33 6 03 76 48 07
florian=
.henry@open-concept.pro
http://www.open-c=
oncept.pro
Twitter : @_Open_Concept_
Google+ : https://www.google.com/+Open-conceptPro
Le 06/12/2015 15:09, charles benke.fr a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
=20 =20 =20

Hello Laurent<= u>

Please don=E2= =80=99t freez the 3.9 till end of year,

we have planned 3 week of work on accounting modules whose a real advance on Dolibarr than a better interface

and I don=E2=80=99t the advancement on native multidevis on

=C2=A0<= u>

Charlie (defra= nce)

=C2=A0<= u>

=C2=A0<= u>

De=C2=A0: dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3Dbenke.fr@nong= nu.org [mailto:dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3Dbenke= .fr@nongnu.org] De la part de Laurent Destailleur (aka Eldy)
Envoy=C3=A9=C2=A0: dimanche 6 d=C3=A9cembre 2015 14:53 =C3=80=C2=A0: ML Dolibarr dev <dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org>
Objet=C2=A0: [Dolibarr-dev] Dolibarr 3.9 freeze

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

As usual, i am a little bit late compared to roadmap for the annoucement of the freez of version 3.9

=C2=A0

There was so exiting changes into interface on the road that i would like to have them finished and stable to start the freeze.

It's done.

=C2=A0

Starting from today, no new features will be added from PR.

=C2=A0

I will create the branch 3.9 soon, but please, everybody, let's start to debug the current develop version ans send fixes.=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Version 3.9 should have a better compatibility with external modules that 3.8, so i think you can already check your externale modules are still working.

The Changelog provides information on what was necessarly changed and may create regression for external modules.


=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Laurent (eldy)
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--001a114277d6941845052654c21b-- From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Dec 07 15:44:54 2015 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1a62eU-0007Fg-P3 for mharc-dolibarr-dev@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 15:44:54 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41211) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a62eS-0007D1-JX for dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 15:44:53 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a62eP-0007en-B3 for dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 15:44:52 -0500 Received: from mail-wm0-x22c.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c09::22c]:35900) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a62eP-0007ed-2D for dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 15:44:49 -0500 Received: by wmww144 with SMTP id w144so156481298wmw.1 for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 12:44:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=to:from:subject:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :content-type; bh=LpwFuZnD50sEE2aRBs0CZrQnbw1LkNS6/JIFocZs9wk=; b=JmQc58OXq5jsj8XDxblsl+kXDWyD5CgpDzxrMmmIJWY+ZUUgE3hC8+mHamwQI5ni4P 79pQln59c+ORkCCHyLCNtgz7RKG9l1DmC4jzOf2mz92RKiMGHXq7arQEWodROYHr96Fr BsVGr9WIAO9dwLUj0uvcqFX86R3qfwJws1ziXh6M7r6AaKIYc5CT4d+9CdPtBN3Y8RkV fMtVjmGd+7rl9n/oDY8dVWlUQBhSZ9dehSp4CE7l2ltXBm1WzHLcXQgx4e3owoh/IXlE MW52IkL63tU3auuYdwJMiCpxzDDh2UES+IV+d0vwcbXEFqUV+M3hsSpp1nI6sxgnq5gJ ANhg== X-Received: by 10.28.222.138 with SMTP id v132mr385952wmg.23.1449521088207; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 12:44:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.42.167] ([37.175.92.231]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h189sm18298005wme.1.2015.12.07.12.44.46 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 07 Dec 2015 12:44:47 -0800 (PST) To: dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org From: Jacques PYRAT Message-ID: <5665EFBD.7050505@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 21:44:45 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; fr; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090812 Thunderbird/2.0.0.23 ThunderBrowse/3.2.6.5 Mnenhy/0.7.6.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010607000809090403080908" X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c09::22c Subject: [Dolibarr-dev] Improvements idea X-BeenThere: dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding List-Id: Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 20:44:53 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010607000809090403080908 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Excuse my english, I read it every day, but don't write often. I'm using Dolibarr without any plugin since 2013. It's a source of dilights, and a pain in the ass alltogether Why is it a pain ? - link pdf generated have a content disposition that force the download (there is a plugin to handle that : https://www.dolistore.com/fr/modules/340-Aper--u-document-3-3-3-8.html !) (and I use browser extension to override this). Why ? Can(t it be a simple link and let people right click to save ? This one, I think I could fork on github, but only if I'm sure it will be integrated - action are in the url or in post that leads the browser to redo the action if shutdown and tabs are reloaded. In SPIP, actions are handled with internal redirect so that you can comminicate URLS to other without garbage ans reload tabs without a question like "Would you like to send the data again ?" - confirmations : why is Dolibarr diplaying confirmation AFTER reloading the page : can't it be ajax overlay ? - position of button to add a line and to validate : I click on the validate loosing all my text to much often ! (consequence of precedent point) - I do not use plugins because the only one I've tried was overwriting some part of Dolibarr code. And also because I've read that after each update of Dolibarr, I should desactivate and activate again each of those plugins. Thanks for reading. PS : I'm reposting because I've posted from another email not susbscribed to the list Jacques - www.pyrat.net --------------010607000809090403080908 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi,

Excuse my english, I read it every day, but don't write often.

I'm using Dolibarr without any plugin since 2013.
It's a source of dilights, and a pain in the ass alltogether

Why is it a pain ?
- link pdf generated have a content disposition that force the download (there is a plugin to handle that : https://www.dolistore.com/fr/modules/340-Aper--u-document-3-3-3-8.html !) (and I use browser extension to override this). Why ? Can(t it be a simple link and let people right click to save ?
This one, I think I could fork on github, but only if I'm sure it will be integrated
- action are in the url or in post that leads the browser to redo the action if shutdown and tabs are reloaded. In SPIP, actions are handled with internal redirect so that you can comminicate URLS to other without garbage ans reload tabs without a question like "Would you like to send the data again ?"
- confirmations : why is Dolibarr diplaying confirmation AFTER reloading the page : can't it be ajax overlay ?
- position of button to add a line and to validate : I click on the validate loosing all my text to much often ! (consequence of precedent point)
- I do not use plugins because the only one I've tried was overwriting some part of Dolibarr code.
And also because I've read that after each update of Dolibarr, I should desactivate and activate again each of those plugins.

Thanks for reading.

PS : I'm reposting because I've posted from another email not susbscribed to the list
Jacques - www.pyrat.net


--------------010607000809090403080908-- From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Dec 07 17:37:52 2015 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1a64Po-0004t2-46 for mharc-dolibarr-dev@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 17:37:52 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39594) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a64Pk-0004rM-Fr for dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 17:37:50 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a64Pg-0001Sn-9j for dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 17:37:48 -0500 Received: from [209.140.22.86] (port=43696 helo=vps.zaytec.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a64Pg-0001IX-1H for dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 17:37:44 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=accett.com.mx; s=default; h=Content-Type:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:From: References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version; bh=IvcvHGf+en296Eff0Me7zvQQT8DMN+bdsGw/KoV+Rr0=; b=iXa7ZGxZuE2lzetARaDfZB9B96 8ZohdJAd8edkO/mnD43+LzYpbqyo67qgZ30ryZVtAhWtbxUF7U8Q6GP5Tw6Ux1zuuus/UnEjaDjqg WGAuoELMrpGDKHFg9bI/1kEDcR1pCHzkhHU2AIpDamgMQ4n4noJ6rN60nS73axQDfJMQ=; Received: from mail-ig0-f170.google.com ([209.85.213.170]:36823) by vps.zaytec.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1a63cX-0003cJ-Gi for dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 15:46:57 -0600 Received: by igcph11 with SMTP id ph11so83498890igc.1 for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 13:46:56 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.50.12.98 with SMTP id x2mr18314311igb.79.1449524816990; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 13:46:56 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.64.229.113 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 13:46:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <000901d1302f$c1008d10$4301a730$@benke.fr> <56654ADE.7010108@open-concept.pro> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Ing=2E_V=C3=ADctor_Ortiz_P=C3=A9rez?= Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 15:46:17 -0600 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: To: "Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0122ea0ccf59f4052655cbb3 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.zaytec.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - nongnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - accett.com.mx X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: vps.zaytec.com: authenticated_id: victor@accett.com.mx X-Authenticated-Sender: vps.zaytec.com: victor@accett.com.mx X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 209.140.22.86 Subject: Re: [Dolibarr-dev] Dolibarr 3.9 freeze X-BeenThere: dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding List-Id: Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 22:37:50 -0000 --089e0122ea0ccf59f4052655cbb3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable IMHO: I agree. I think is too fast, maybe waiting more, the new version could be tested enough to decrease the number of bugs of the last release. I understand that there is a schedule maybe it have to be rescheduled. 2015-12-07 14:32 GMT-06:00 Olivier Geffroy : > Hi all, > > why launch the 3.9 ? > we have a lot of problems with 3.8, it's disturbing for users. It will be > better to spend the next 6 months in order to correct the 3.8 and show th= at > we care about stability (don't be Microsoft..) > my 2 cents > > 2015-12-07 10:01 GMT+01:00 Florian HENRY = : > >> Laurent, >> >> Can you create 3.8_backport branch ? >> >> Regard >> >> Florian Henry+33 6 03 76 48 07florian.henry@open-concept.prohttp://www.o= pen-concept.pro >> Twitter : @_Open_Concept_ >> Google+ : https://www.google.com/+Open-conceptPro >> >> Le 06/12/2015 15:09, charles benke.fr a =C3=A9crit : >> >> Hello Laurent >> >> Please don=E2=80=99t freez the 3.9 till end of year, >> >> we have planned 3 week of work on accounting modules whose a real advanc= e >> on Dolibarr than a better interface >> >> and I don=E2=80=99t the advancement on native multidevis on >> >> >> >> Charlie (defrance) >> >> >> >> >> >> *De :* dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3Dbenke.fr@nongnu.org [ >> mailto:dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3Dbenke.fr@nongnu.org >> ] *De la part de* >> Laurent Destailleur (aka Eldy) >> *Envoy=C3=A9 :* dimanche 6 d=C3=A9cembre 2015 14:53 >> *=C3=80 :* ML Dolibarr dev >> *Objet :* [Dolibarr-dev] Dolibarr 3.9 freeze >> >> >> >> >> >> As usual, i am a little bit late compared to roadmap for the annoucement >> of the freez of version 3.9 >> >> >> >> There was so exiting changes into interface on the road that i would lik= e >> to have them finished and stable to start the freeze. >> >> It's done. >> >> >> >> Starting from today, no new features will be added from PR. >> >> >> >> I will create the branch 3.9 soon, but please, everybody, let's start to >> debug the current develop version ans send fixes. >> >> >> >> >> >> Version 3.9 should have a better compatibility with external modules tha= t >> 3.8, so i think you can already check your externale modules are still >> working. >> >> The Changelog provides information on what was necessarly changed and ma= y >> create regression for external modules. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Laurent (eldy) >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------ >> Google+: https://plus.google.com/+LaurentDestailleur/ >> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Destailleur.Laurent >> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/eldy10 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Dolibarr-dev mailing listDolibarr-dev@nongnu.orghttps://lists.nongnu.org= /mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Dolibarr-dev mailing list >> Dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org >> https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev >> >> > > > -- > > > *Olivier Geffroy**Consultant Informatique* > > > > *Jeffinfo a 15 ans cette ann=C3=A9e > -------------------= ------------------* > > *Jeffinfo SARL**295 rue d'aire **59660 Merville* > > > *jeff@jeffinfo.com Gsm : 0608632740**Skype : darkj3ff* > > > _______________________________________________ > Dolibarr-dev mailing list > Dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org > https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev > > --=20 Gracias por no enviar cadenas. Ing. V=C3=ADctor Ortiz P=C3=A9rez AcceTT - Soluciones Computacionales M=C3=A1rtires 28 de Agosto #134 esq. Ruiz Cortines Col. Ferrer Guardia Xalapa, Veracruz CP 91020 Tel. (228) 840 3284 WA 228 840 3284 victor@accett.com.mx www.accett.com.mx --089e0122ea0ccf59f4052655cbb3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
IMHO:

I agree. I think is too fas= t, maybe waiting more, the new version could be tested enough to decrease t= he number of bugs of the last release.

I understand that= there is a schedule maybe it have to be rescheduled.
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No matter how much we wait, there will never be a perfectly ironed out version. Much less when some want to push major features just before release. If there's something the 3.8 release taught us, it is that bugs were uncovered too late in the release cycle. So start testing, reporting and fixing bugs now! There's already 19 issues that needs fixing: https://github.com/Dolibarr/dolibarr/milestones/3.7.3 https://github.com/Dolibarr/dolibarr/milestones/3.8.3 https://github.com/Dolibarr/dolibarr/milestones/3.9.0 I'll start a marathon tomorrow from noon till dawn (CET timezone), anyone interested, join me on #dolibarr IRC channel at freenode. Let's make it fun :) Cheers, *Rapha=C3=ABl Doursenaud* Directeur technique (CTO) Expert certifi=C3=A9 en d=C3=A9ploiement Google Apps +33 (0)5 35 53 97 13 - +33 (0)6 68 48 20 10 2015-12-07 22:46 GMT+01:00 Ing. V=C3=ADctor Ortiz P=C3=A9rez : > IMHO: > > I agree. I think is too fast, maybe waiting more, the new version could b= e > tested enough to decrease the number of bugs of the last release. > > I understand that there is a schedule maybe it have to be rescheduled. > > 2015-12-07 14:32 GMT-06:00 Olivier Geffroy : > >> Hi all, >> >> why launch the 3.9 ? >> we have a lot of problems with 3.8, it's disturbing for users. It will b= e >> better to spend the next 6 months in order to correct the 3.8 and show t= hat >> we care about stability (don't be Microsoft..) >> my 2 cents >> >> 2015-12-07 10:01 GMT+01:00 Florian HENRY >> : >> >>> Laurent, >>> >>> Can you create 3.8_backport branch ? >>> >>> Regard >>> >>> Florian Henry+33 6 03 76 48 07florian.henry@open-concept.prohttp://www.= open-concept.pro >>> Twitter : @_Open_Concept_ >>> Google+ : https://www.google.com/+Open-conceptPro >>> >>> Le 06/12/2015 15:09, charles benke.fr a =C3=A9crit : >>> >>> Hello Laurent >>> >>> Please don=E2=80=99t freez the 3.9 till end of year, >>> >>> we have planned 3 week of work on accounting modules whose a real >>> advance on Dolibarr than a better interface >>> >>> and I don=E2=80=99t the advancement on native multidevis on >>> >>> >>> >>> Charlie (defrance) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *De :* dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3Dbenke.fr@nongnu.org [ >>> mailto:dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3Dbenke.fr@nongnu.org >>> ] *De la part de= * >>> Laurent Destailleur (aka Eldy) >>> *Envoy=C3=A9 :* dimanche 6 d=C3=A9cembre 2015 14:53 >>> *=C3=80 :* ML Dolibarr dev >>> >>> *Objet :* [Dolibarr-dev] Dolibarr 3.9 freeze >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> As usual, i am a little bit late compared to roadmap for the annoucemen= t >>> of the freez of version 3.9 >>> >>> >>> >>> There was so exiting changes into interface on the road that i would >>> like to have them finished and stable to start the freeze. >>> >>> It's done. >>> >>> >>> >>> Starting from today, no new features will be added from PR. >>> >>> >>> >>> I will create the branch 3.9 soon, but please, everybody, let's start t= o >>> debug the current develop version ans send fixes. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Version 3.9 should have a better compatibility with external modules >>> that 3.8, so i think you can already check your externale modules are s= till >>> working. >>> >>> The Changelog provides information on what was necessarly changed and >>> may create regression for external modules. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Laurent (eldy) >>> >>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------- >>> Google+: https://plus.google.com/+LaurentDestailleur/ >>> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Destailleur.Laurent >>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/eldy10 >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Dolibarr-dev mailing listDolibarr-dev@nongnu.orghttps://lists.nongnu.or= g/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Dolibarr-dev mailing list >>> Dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org >>> https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> *Olivier Geffroy**Consultant Informatique* >> >> >> >> *Jeffinfo a 15 ans cette ann=C3=A9e >> ------------------= -------------------* >> >> *Jeffinfo SARL**295 rue d'aire **59660 Merville* >> >> >> *jeff@jeffinfo.com Gsm : 0608632740 <0608632740>**Sky= pe >> : darkj3ff* >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Dolibarr-dev mailing list >> Dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org >> https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev >> >> > > > -- > Gracias por no enviar cadenas. > Ing. V=C3=ADctor Ortiz P=C3=A9rez > AcceTT - Soluciones Computacionales > M=C3=A1rtires 28 de Agosto #134 esq. Ruiz Cortines > Col. Ferrer Guardia Xalapa, Veracruz CP 91020 > Tel. (228) 840 3284 > WA 228 840 3284 > victor@accett.com.mx > www.accett.com.mx > > _______________________________________________ > Dolibarr-dev mailing list > Dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org > https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev > > --=20 https://gpcsolutions.fr Technopole H=C3=A9lioparc 2 avenue du Pr=C3=A9sident Pierre Angot 64053 PAU CEDEX 9 SARL GPC.solutions au capital de 7 500 =E2=82=AC - R.C.S. PAU 528 995 921 =20 --001a11c398f2ad7a6905265ef5ef Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi everyone,

The free software is= all about release early, release often.
No matter how much we wait, th= ere will never be a perfectly ironed out version.
Much less when = some want to push major features just before release.

<= div>If there's something the 3.8 release taught us, it is that bugs wer= e uncovered too late in the release cycle.
So start testing, repo= rting and fixing bugs now!

There's already 19 = issues that needs fixing:
=
I'll start a marathon tomorrow from noon till dawn (CET = timezone), anyone interested, join me on #dolibarr IRC channel at freenode.=
Let's make it fun :)

Cheers,
<= div>

2015-12-07 14:32 GMT-06:00 = Olivier Geffroy <jeff@jeffinfo.com>:
Hi all,=C2=A0

why launch the= 3.9 ?
we have a lot of problems with 3.8, it's disturbing fo= r users. It will be better to spend the next 6 months in order to correct t= he 3.8 and show that we care about stability (don't be Microsoft..)
my 2 cents

2015-12-07 10:01 GMT+01:00 Florian HENRY <= florian= .henry@open-concept.pro>:
=20 =20 =20
Laurent,

=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Can you create 3.8_backport branch ?

Regard
Florian Henry
+33 6 03 76 48 07
florian=
.henry@open-concept.pro
http://www.open-c=
oncept.pro
Twitter : @_Open_Concept_
Google+ : https://www.google.com/+Open-conceptPro
Le 06/12/2015 15:09, charles benke.fr a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
=20 =20 =20

Hello Laurent<= u>

Please don=E2= =80=99t freez the 3.9 till end of year,

we have planned 3 week of work on accounting modules whose a real advance on Dolibarr than a better interface

and I don=E2=80=99t the advancement on native multidevis on

=C2=A0<= u>

Charlie (defra= nce)

=C2=A0<= u>

=C2=A0<= u>

De=C2=A0: dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3Dbenke.fr@nong= nu.org [mailto:dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3Dbenke= .fr@nongnu.org] De la part de Laurent Destailleur (aka Eldy)
Envoy=C3=A9=C2=A0: dimanche 6 d=C3=A9cembre 2015 14:53 =C3=80=C2=A0: ML Dolibarr dev <dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org>
Objet=C2=A0: [Dolibarr-dev] Dolibarr 3.9 freeze

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

As usual, i am a little bit late compared to roadmap for the annoucement of the freez of version 3.9

=C2=A0

There was so exiting changes into interface on the road that i would like to have them finished and stable to start the freeze.

It's done.

=C2=A0

Starting from today, no new features will be added from PR.

=C2=A0

I will create the branch 3.9 soon, but please, everybody, let's start to debug the current develop version ans send fixes.=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Version 3.9 should have a better compatibility with external modules that 3.8, so i think you can already check your externale modules are still working.

The Changelog provides information on what was necessarly changed and may create regression for external modules.


=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

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2015-12-07 22:46 GMT+01:00 Ing. V=C3=ADctor = Ortiz P=C3=A9rez <victor@accett.com.mx>:
IMHO:

I agree. = I think is too fast, maybe waiting more, the new version could be tested en= ough to decrease the number of bugs of the last release.

I understand that there is a schedule maybe it have to be rescheduled.

2015-12-07 14:32 GMT-06:00 Olivier Geffroy = <jeff@jeffinfo.co= m>:
Hi all= ,=C2=A0

why launch the 3.9 ?
we have a lot of = problems with 3.8, it's disturbing for users. It will be better to spen= d the next 6 months in order to correct the 3.8 and show that we care about= stability (don't be Microsoft..)
my 2 cents

2015-12-07 10:01 GMT+0= 1:00 Florian HENRY <florian.henry@open-concept.pro>:
=20 =20 =20
Laurent,

=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Can you create 3.8_backport branch ?

Regard
Florian Henry
+33 6 03 76 48 07
florian=
.henry@open-concept.pro
http://www.open-c=
oncept.pro
Twitter : @_Open_Concept_
Google+ : https://www.google.com/+Open-conceptPro
Le 06/12/2015 15:09, charles benke.fr a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
=20 =20 =20

Hello Laurent<= u>

Please don=E2= =80=99t freez the 3.9 till end of year,

we have planned 3 week of work on accounting modules whose a real advance on Dolibarr than a better interface

and I don=E2=80=99t the advancement on native multidevis on

=C2=A0<= u>

Charlie (defra= nce)

=C2=A0<= u>

=C2=A0<= u>

De=C2=A0: dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3Dbenke.fr@nong= nu.org [mailto:dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3Dbenke= .fr@nongnu.org] De la part de Laurent Destailleur (aka Eldy)
Envoy=C3=A9=C2=A0: dimanche 6 d=C3=A9cembre 2015 14:53 =C3=80=C2=A0: ML Dolibarr dev <dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org>
Objet=C2=A0: [Dolibarr-dev] Dolibarr 3.9 freeze

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

As usual, i am a little bit late compared to roadmap for the annoucement of the freez of version 3.9

=C2=A0

There was so exiting changes into interface on the road that i would like to have them finished and stable to start the freeze.

It's done.

=C2=A0

Starting from today, no new features will be added from PR.

=C2=A0

I will create the branch 3.9 soon, but please, everybody, let's start to debug the current develop version ans send fixes.=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Version 3.9 should have a better compatibility with external modules that 3.8, so i think you can already check your externale modules are still working.

The Changelog provides information on what was necessarly changed and may create regression for external modules.


=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Laurent (eldy)
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--001a11c398f2ad7a6905265ef5ef-- From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Dec 08 04:08:56 2015 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1a6EGW-0006Du-Kz for mharc-dolibarr-dev@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 04:08:56 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54849) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a6EGT-00068S-F6 for dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 04:08:54 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a6EGR-0007rS-VO for dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 04:08:53 -0500 Received: from smtp2-g21.free.fr ([2a01:e0c:1:1599::11]:31562) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a6EGR-0007hp-NM for dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 04:08:51 -0500 Received: from [IPv6:2a01:e35:8b8b:a580:39b1:98ed:621e:8cfb] (unknown [IPv6:2a01:e35:8b8b:a580:39b1:98ed:621e:8cfb]) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FFCC4B005A for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 10:06:46 +0100 (CET) To: Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding References: From: =?UTF-8?B?RnLDqWTDqXJpYyBGUkFOQ0U=?= X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Message-ID: <56669DE3.8020603@free.fr> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 10:07:47 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------060705080309040809070908" X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Windows NT kernel [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 2a01:e0c:1:1599::11 Subject: Re: [Dolibarr-dev] Dolibarr 3.9 freeze X-BeenThere: dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding List-Id: Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 09:08:55 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060705080309040809070908 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Paypal stops support of TLSv1 in january 2016 Maybe we need to update paypal.lib.php curl_setopt($ch, CURLOPT_SSLVERSION, 6); // Force TLSv1.2 >From paypal in french: 14 janvier 2016 : Apr=E8s cette date, les points de terminaison API de l'environnement de test prendront en charge uniquement les nouvelles normes (HTTP/1.1, TLS 1.2 et certificats SHA-256). www.sandbox.paypal.com acceptera donc uniquement HTTPS pour les envois IP= N. https://www.paypal-knowledge.com/infocenter/index?page=3Dcontent&id=3DFAQ= 1913&expand=3Dtrue&locale=3Dfr_FR https://www.paypal-knowledge.com/infocenter/index?page=3Dcontent&id=3DFAQ= 1913&expand=3Dtrue&locale=3Den_US Fr=E9d=E9ric FRANCE Le 06/12/2015 14:52, Laurent Destailleur (aka Eldy) a =E9crit : > > As usual, i am a little bit late compared to roadmap for the > annoucement of the freez of version 3.9 > > There was so exiting changes into interface on the road that i would > like to have them finished and stable to start the freeze. > It's done. > > Starting from today, no new features will be added from PR. > > I will create the branch 3.9 soon, but please, everybody, let's start > to debug the current develop version ans send fixes.=20 > > > Version 3.9 should have a better compatibility with external modules > that 3.8, so i think you can already check your externale modules are > still working. > The Changelog provides information on what was necessarly changed and > may create regression for external modules. > > > > > Laurent (eldy) > -----------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------- > Google+: https://plus.google.com/+LaurentDestailleur/ > Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Destailleur.Laurent > Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/eldy10 > > > _______________________________________________ > Dolibarr-dev mailing list > Dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org > https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev --------------060705080309040809070908 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello
Paypal stops support of TLSv1 in january 2016
Maybe we need to update paypal.lib.php

curl_setopt($ch, CURLOPT_SSLVERSION, 6); // Force TLSv1.2

From paypal in french:
14 janvier 2016 : Apr=E8s cette date, les points de terminaison API de l'environnement de test prendront en charge uniquement les nouvelles normes (HTTP/1.1, TLS 1.2 et certificats SHA-256). www.sandbox.paypal.com acceptera donc uniquement HTTPS pour= les envois IPN.

https://www.paypal-knowledge.com/infocenter/index?page=3D= content&id=3DFAQ1913&expand=3Dtrue&locale=3Dfr_FR

https://www.paypal-knowledge.com/infocenter/index?page=3D= content&id=3DFAQ1913&expand=3Dtrue&locale=3Den_US

Fr=E9d=E9ric FRANCE

Le 06/12/2015 14:52, Laurent Destailleur (aka Eldy) a =E9crit=A0:

As usual, i am a little bit late compared to roadmap for the annoucement of the freez of version 3.9

There was so exiting changes into interface on the road that i would like to have them finished and stable to start the freeze.
It's done.

Starting from today, no new features will be added from PR.<= /div>

I will create the branch 3.9 soon, but please, everybody, let's start to debug the current develop version ans send fixes.=A0


Version 3.9 should have a better compatibility with external modules that 3.8, so i think you can already check your externale modules are still working.
The Changelog provides information on what was necessarly changed and may create regression for external modules.




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No matter how much we wait, there will never be a perfectly ironed out = version. Much less when some want to push major features just before release. =20 If there's something the 3.8 release taught us, it is that bugs were = uncovered too late in the release cycle. So start testing, reporting and fixing bugs now! =20 There's already 19 issues that needs fixing: https://github.com/Dolibarr/dolibarr/milestones/3.7.3 https://github.com/Dolibarr/dolibarr/milestones/3.8.3 https://github.com/Dolibarr/dolibarr/milestones/3.9.0 =20 I'll start a marathon tomorrow from noon till dawn (CET timezone), = anyone interested, join me on #dolibarr IRC channel at freenode. Let's make it fun :) =20 Cheers, =20 Rapha=C3=ABl Doursenaud Directeur technique (CTO) Expert certifi=C3=A9 en d=C3=A9ploiement Google Apps = =20 +33 (0)5 35 53 97 13 - +33 (0)6 68 48 20 10 =20 2015-12-07 22:46 GMT+01:00 Ing. V=C3=ADctor Ortiz P=C3=A9rez = >: IMHO: =20 I agree. I think is too fast, maybe waiting more, the new version could = be tested enough to decrease the number of bugs of the last release. =20 I understand that there is a schedule maybe it have to be rescheduled. =20 2015-12-07 14:32 GMT-06:00 Olivier Geffroy >: Hi all,=20 =20 why launch the 3.9 ? we have a lot of problems with 3.8, it's disturbing for users. It will = be better to spend the next 6 months in order to correct the 3.8 and = show that we care about stability (don't be Microsoft..) my 2 cents =20 2015-12-07 10:01 GMT+01:00 Florian HENRY >: Laurent, Can you create 3.8_backport branch ? Regard Florian Henry +33 6 03 76 48 07 =20 florian.henry@open-concept.pro =20 http://www.open-concept.pro Twitter : @_Open_Concept_ Google+ : https://www.google.com/+Open-conceptPro Le 06/12/2015 15:09, charles benke.fr a =C3=A9crit : Hello Laurent Please don=E2=80=99t freez the 3.9 till end of year,=20 we have planned 3 week of work on accounting modules whose a real = advance on Dolibarr than a better interface and I don=E2=80=99t the advancement on native multidevis on=20 =20 Charlie (defrance) =20 =20 De : dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3Dbenke.fr@nongnu.org = = [mailto:dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3Dbenke.fr@nongnu.org] De la = part de Laurent Destailleur (aka Eldy) Envoy=C3=A9 : dimanche 6 d=C3=A9cembre 2015 14:53 =C3=80 : ML Dolibarr dev = Objet : [Dolibarr-dev] Dolibarr 3.9 freeze =20 =20 As usual, i am a little bit late compared to roadmap for the annoucement = of the freez of version 3.9 =20 There was so exiting changes into interface on the road that i would = like to have them finished and stable to start the freeze. It's done. =20 Starting from today, no new features will be added from PR. =20 I will create the branch 3.9 soon, but please, everybody, let's start to = debug the current develop version ans send fixes.=20 =20 =20 Version 3.9 should have a better compatibility with external modules = that 3.8, so i think you can already check your externale modules are = still working. The Changelog provides information on what was necessarly changed and = may create regression for external modules. =20 =20 =20 Laurent (eldy) -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----------- Google+: = https://plus.google.com/+LaurentDestailleur/ Facebook: = https://www.facebook.com/Destailleur.Laurent Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/eldy10 =20 _______________________________________________ Dolibarr-dev mailing list Dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org =20 https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev =20 _______________________________________________ Dolibarr-dev mailing list Dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org =20 https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev =20 --=20 =20 Olivier Geffroy Consultant Informatique =20 Jeffinfo a 15 ans cette ann=C3=A9e = =20 ------------------------------------- Jeffinfo SARL 295 rue d'aire 59660 Merville jeff@jeffinfo.com =20 Gsm : 0608632740 =20 Skype : darkj3ff =20 _______________________________________________ Dolibarr-dev mailing list Dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org =20 https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev =20 --=20 Gracias por no enviar cadenas. 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=E2=80=9CErrare humanum est, perseverare = diabolicum=E2=80=9D

 

The main problem on the 3.8 is to considering than httpunit test is = enough

 

I have no problem to release often BUT we do not drive the release = delivery by calendar but by feature and quality

Say =E2=80=9CWe can delivery a release version because the quality is = bad=E2=80=9D or because they are nothing really new is a better way than = respect free sortware spirit

Or we say that 3.9 is a version for nothing!

 

Bien cordialement,

Charlie Benke

 

De : = dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3Dbenke.fr@nongnu.org = [mailto:dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3Dbenke.fr@nongnu.org] De la = part de Doursenaud, Rapha=C3=ABl
Envoy=C3=A9 : mardi = 8 d=C3=A9cembre 2015 09:43
=C3=80 : Posts about Dolibarr = ERP & CRM development and coding = <dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org>
Objet : Re: = [Dolibarr-dev] Dolibarr 3.9 freeze

 

Hi = everyone,

 

The = free software is all about release early, release = often.

No matter how much we = wait, there will never be a perfectly ironed out = version.

Much less when = some want to push major features just before = release.

 

If there's something the 3.8 release taught us, it is = that bugs were uncovered too late in the release = cycle.

So start testing, = reporting and fixing bugs now!

 

There's already 19 issues that needs = fixing:

=

 

I'll start a marathon tomorrow from noon till dawn = (CET timezone), anyone interested, join me on #dolibarr IRC channel at = freenode.

Let's make it = fun :)

 

Cheers,

 


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2015-12-07 22:46 GMT+01:00 Ing. V=C3=ADctor Ortiz = P=C3=A9rez <victor@accett.com.mx>:

IMHO:

 

I = agree. I think is too fast, maybe waiting more, the new version could be = tested enough to decrease the number of bugs of the last = release.

 

I = understand that there is a schedule maybe it have to be = rescheduled.

 

2015-12-07 14:32 GMT-06:00 Olivier Geffroy <jeff@jeffinfo.com>:

Hi = all, 

 

why launch the 3.9 ?

we have a lot of problems with 3.8, it's disturbing = for users. It will be better to spend the next 6 months in order to = correct the 3.8 and show that we care about stability (don't be = Microsoft..)

my 2 = cents

 

2015-12-07 10:01 GMT+01:00 Florian HENRY <florian.henry@open-concept.pro>:

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Laurent,

      Can you = create 3.8_backport branch = ?

Regard

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Le 06/12/2015 15:09, charles benke.fr a = =C3=A9crit :

Hello Laurent

Please don=E2=80=99t freez the 3.9 till end of year, =

we have planned 3 week of work on accounting modules whose a real = advance on Dolibarr than a better interface

and I don=E2=80=99t the advancement on native multidevis on =

 

Charlie (defrance)

 

 

De : dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3Dbenke.fr@nongnu.org [mailto:dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3Dbenke.fr@nongn= u.org] De la part de Laurent Destailleur (aka = Eldy)
Envoy=C3=A9 : dimanche 6 d=C3=A9cembre 2015 = 14:53
=C3=80 : ML Dolibarr dev <dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org>
Objet :<= /b> [Dolibarr-dev] Dolibarr 3.9 freeze

 <= /o:p>

 <= /o:p>

As usual, i = am a little bit late compared to roadmap for the annoucement of the = freez of version 3.9

 <= /o:p>

There was = so exiting changes into interface on the road that i would like to have = them finished and stable to start the = freeze.

It's = done.

 <= /o:p>

Starting = from today, no new features will be added from = PR.

 <= /o:p>

I will = create the branch 3.9 soon, but please, everybody, let's start to debug = the current develop version ans send = fixes. 

 <= /o:p>

 <= /o:p>

Version 3.9 = should have a better compatibility with external modules that 3.8, so i = think you can already check your externale modules are still = working.

The = Changelog provides information on what was necessarly changed and may = create regression for external modules.


 <= /o:p>

 <= /o:p>

 <= /o:p>

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From paypal in french:
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Le 06/12/2015 14:52, Laurent Destailleur (aka Eldy) a =C3=A9crit=C2= =A0:

As usual, i am a little bit late compared to roadmap for the annoucement of the freez of version 3.9

There was so exiting changes into interface on the road that i would like to have them finished and stable to start the freeze.
It's done.

Starting from today, no new features will be added from PR.

I will create the branch 3.9 soon, but please, everybody, let's start to debug the current develop version ans send fixes.=C2=A0


Version 3.9 should have a better compatibility with external modules that 3.8, so i think you can already check your externale modules are still working.
The Changelog provides information on what was necessarly changed and may create regression for external modules.




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--047d7bfd01c64d55360526603ec9-- From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Dec 08 05:58:11 2015 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1a6FyF-000201-6i for mharc-dolibarr-dev@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 05:58:11 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56126) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a6FyB-0001zU-QR for dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 05:58:09 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a6FyA-0001IE-7G for dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 05:58:07 -0500 Received: from mail-lf0-x234.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c07::234]:34546) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a6Fy9-0001I4-PN for dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 05:58:06 -0500 Received: by lffu14 with SMTP id u14so10163209lff.1 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 02:58:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gpcsolutions.fr; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=zrO58mXjyo16vmRPB+RjZ18TM2xfCGgzRTHWp0VThgU=; b=fU5EeDsn7rN4ih7oPKmHLr6CvzDddBnmhQjU8SpxYD9o+sLyoHFkWohbiaN/1AS4IY P5Od9AV7b8uSwgiB24q+EkL7sPdH+HyamHIPB/jZ6ptMkFGtmwRir9jTsbSmn45j7TDa X+Faw/i9S2LTF/EKlr4pQjkXsp3t12+WTuiVI= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=zrO58mXjyo16vmRPB+RjZ18TM2xfCGgzRTHWp0VThgU=; b=BBSfQyPQTIrEMV5NOWbRUyBuXk8F3ww0rvgfkm4RJSp+42Xvz1wCg29Q0lzUBYngh9 O115YLXB05zVrUtirkbd6crmTD8j0y78nhYWxHyC+QgQVpeTWpi3+nC7pxrgFpFk10Mf uWKXguBeZr3qlLjdyDcAJDk+vD5Rat4f8NHjZgzyR6Sqmq013i79PBwCxsQZ7g+cyTO8 irOuwOyV7TYgx1iYA6lSLgf/u35SiFYCSNCu0q/GEIapV1hUE0QZPcvucCwOvGYDPdSG e4ydgJ4PvYbMaWicfLR9YZe7Pmk/WmwELX0ALYf1jyarjbXUasQDJ20uy70TtPYM/5yE bVDA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmQ9itQvlYB4yz2rW56KBqFT/Xdd0cgpnS/9udYqB98BwCdntu1sW070dBPmaBvTxhND/akV1TK+dFisU8kz4gtwe/4Eb6/tbkKvgHwKSDXPzlDGBbetEwRyFAm9N9QI4jSsVjGok17osDNSRGuivEbhVe4Xg== X-Received: by 10.25.207.205 with SMTP id f196mr1240333lfg.124.1449572284626; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 02:58:04 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.25.41.143 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 02:57:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <56659E97.2020107@lgy.fr> References: <56659D7F.3040709@lgy.fr> <56659E97.2020107@lgy.fr> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Doursenaud=2C_Rapha=C3=ABl?= Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 11:57:45 +0100 Message-ID: To: "Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1140041c1a1257052660d97c X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4010:c07::234 Subject: Re: [Dolibarr-dev] =?utf-8?q?clicktodial_le_contexte_n=27est_pas_para?= =?utf-8?b?bcOpdHJhYmxl?= X-BeenThere: dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding List-Id: Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 10:58:09 -0000 --001a1140041c1a1257052660d97c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Sorry, this list is english spoken only. Your patch seems ok but I think you may want to add an interface to populate the parameters. htdocs/admin/clicktodial.php seems to be the right place. Also, pull requests are preferred to mere patches. The basic workflow is described in our contribution guidelines : https://github.com/Dolibarr/dolibarr/blob/develop/CONTRIBUTING.md Please let me know if you need further assistance, I'd be glad to help. Regards, *Rapha=C3=ABl Doursenaud* Directeur technique (CTO) Expert certifi=C3=A9 en d=C3=A9ploiement Google Apps +33 (0)5 35 53 97 13 - +33 (0)6 68 48 20 10 Le 7 d=C3=A9cembre 2015 =C3=A0 15:58, Thomas Legay a =C3=A9= crit : > Avec la bonne version du patch > > D=C3=A9sol=C3=A9 > > > Le 07/12/2015 15:53, Thomas Legay a =C3=A9crit : > > Bonjour, > > Suite =C3=A0 mon post > > sur le forum, vous trouverez un patch que j'ai fait. > > L'objectif est de pouvoir param=C3=A9tr=C3=A9 certaine constante. > > Merci de votre retour. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Dolibarr-dev mailing listDolibarr-dev@nongnu.orghttps://lists.nongnu.org/= mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev > > > > _______________________________________________ > Dolibarr-dev mailing list > Dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org > https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev > > --=20 https://gpcsolutions.fr Technopole H=C3=A9lioparc 2 avenue du Pr=C3=A9sident Pierre Angot 64053 PAU CEDEX 9 SARL GPC.solutions au capital de 7 500 =E2=82=AC - R.C.S. PAU 528 995 921 =20 --001a1140041c1a1257052660d97c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

Sorry, this list is english spoken = only.

Your patch seems ok but I think you may want= to add an interface to populate the parameters.
htdocs/admin/cli= cktodial.php seems to be the right place.

Also= , pull requests are preferred to mere patches.
The basic workflow= is described in our contribution guidelines :=C2=A0https://github.com/D= olibarr/dolibarr/blob/develop/CONTRIBUTING.md

<= div>Please let me know if you need further assistance, I'd be glad to h= elp.

Regards,

Rapha=C3=ABl Doursenaud
Directeur technique (CTO)
+33 (0)= 5 35 53 97 13 - +33 (0)6 68 48 20 10

Le 7 d=C3=A9cembre 2015 =C3=A0 15:58, Thomas= Legay <thomas@lgy.fr> a =C3=A9crit :
=20 =20 =20
Avec la bonne version du patch

D=C3=A9sol=C3=A9


Le 07/12/2015 15:53, Thomas Legay a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
=20 Bonjour,

Suite =C3=A0 mon post sur le forum, vous trouverez un patch que j'ai fait.

L'objectif est de pouvoir param=C3=A9tr=C3=A9 certaine constante.=

Merci de votre retour.




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Versions doesn't need to have a certain amount of new features... except in commercial softwares maybe... And the pace is great to focus attention of dev community just before releases to correct issues as Rdoursenaud wants to invite. It should be great to find a way to focus attention of users and theirs integrators also to report bugs and requests just after the release to set a certain "rythm" also. I imagine that the sooner and less stable the release is... the later the migration of users will be so it is good for Devs to have time to adapt modules ;) Users willing to adopt a 3.9 should wait 3.9.1 to get semi solid production environment and 3.9.2 to have a stable one. Hub Hubert ANDRIOLO G=C3=A9rant FM MEDICAL 0033623101731 Le 8 d=C3=A9c. 2015 10:09, a =C3=A9crit : > Send Dolibarr-dev mailing list submissions to > dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > dolibarr-dev-request@nongnu.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > dolibarr-dev-owner@nongnu.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Dolibarr-dev digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Dolibarr 3.9 freeze (Doursenaud) > 2. Re: Dolibarr 3.9 freeze (Fr?d?ric FRANCE) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 09:42:34 +0100 > From: Doursenaud, Rapha?l > To: "Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding" > > Subject: Re: [Dolibarr-dev] Dolibarr 3.9 freeze > Message-ID: > bjRKgojV775Qd8ELtNyzxQ@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8" > > Hi everyone, > > The free software is all about release early, release often. > No matter how much we wait, there will never be a perfectly ironed out > version. > Much less when some want to push major features just before release. > > If there's something the 3.8 release taught us, it is that bugs were > uncovered too late in the release cycle. > So start testing, reporting and fixing bugs now! > > There's already 19 issues that needs fixing: > https://github.com/Dolibarr/dolibarr/milestones/3.7.3 > https://github.com/Dolibarr/dolibarr/milestones/3.8.3 > https://github.com/Dolibarr/dolibarr/milestones/3.9.0 > > I'll start a marathon tomorrow from noon till dawn (CET timezone), anyone > interested, join me on #dolibarr IRC channel at freenode. > Let's make it fun :) > > Cheers, > > > *Rapha?l Doursenaud* > Directeur technique (CTO) > Expert certifi? en d?ploiement Google Apps > < > https://gpcsolutions.fr/raphael-doursenaud-google-apps-certified-deployme= nt-specialist > > > +33 (0)5 35 53 97 13 - +33 (0)6 68 48 20 10 > > 2015-12-07 22:46 GMT+01:00 Ing. V?ctor Ortiz P?rez = : > > > IMHO: > > > > I agree. I think is too fast, maybe waiting more, the new version could > be > > tested enough to decrease the number of bugs of the last release. > > > > I understand that there is a schedule maybe it have to be rescheduled. > > > > 2015-12-07 14:32 GMT-06:00 Olivier Geffroy : > > > >> Hi all, > >> > >> why launch the 3.9 ? > >> we have a lot of problems with 3.8, it's disturbing for users. It will > be > >> better to spend the next 6 months in order to correct the 3.8 and show > that > >> we care about stability (don't be Microsoft..) > >> my 2 cents > >> > >> 2015-12-07 10:01 GMT+01:00 Florian HENRY < > florian.henry@open-concept.pro> > >> : > >> > >>> Laurent, > >>> > >>> Can you create 3.8_backport branch ? > >>> > >>> Regard > >>> > >>> Florian Henry+33 6 03 76 48 07florian.henry@open-concept.prohttp:// > www.open-concept.pro > >>> Twitter : @_Open_Concept_ > >>> Google+ : https://www.google.com/+Open-conceptPro > >>> > >>> Le 06/12/2015 15:09, charles benke.fr a ?crit : > >>> > >>> Hello Laurent > >>> > >>> Please don?t freez the 3.9 till end of year, > >>> > >>> we have planned 3 week of work on accounting modules whose a real > >>> advance on Dolibarr than a better interface > >>> > >>> and I don?t the advancement on native multidevis on > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Charlie (defrance) > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> *De :* dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3Dbenke.fr@nongnu.org [ > >>> mailto:dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3Dbenke.fr@nongnu.org > >>> ] *De la part = de* > >>> Laurent Destailleur (aka Eldy) > >>> *Envoy? :* dimanche 6 d?cembre 2015 14:53 > >>> *? :* ML Dolibarr dev > >>> > >>> *Objet :* [Dolibarr-dev] Dolibarr 3.9 freeze > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> As usual, i am a little bit late compared to roadmap for the > annoucement > >>> of the freez of version 3.9 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> There was so exiting changes into interface on the road that i would > >>> like to have them finished and stable to start the freeze. > >>> > >>> It's done. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Starting from today, no new features will be added from PR. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> I will create the branch 3.9 soon, but please, everybody, let's start > to > >>> debug the current develop version ans send fixes. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Version 3.9 should have a better compatibility with external modules > >>> that 3.8, so i think you can already check your externale modules are > still > >>> working. > >>> > >>> The Changelog provides information on what was necessarly changed and > >>> may create regression for external modules. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Laurent (eldy) > >>> > >>> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----------- > >>> Google+: https://plus.google.com/+LaurentDestailleur/ > >>> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Destailleur.Laurent > >>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/eldy10 > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Dolibarr-dev mailing listDolibarr-dev@nongnu.orghttps:// > lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Dolibarr-dev mailing list > >>> Dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org > >>> https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> > >> *Olivier Geffroy**Consultant Informatique* > >> > >> > >> > >> *Jeffinfo a 15 ans cette ann?e > >> >-------------------------------------* > >> > >> *Jeffinfo SARL**295 rue d'aire **59660 Merville* > >> > >> > >> *jeff@jeffinfo.com Gsm : 0608632740 <0608632740 > >**Skype > >> : darkj3ff* > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Dolibarr-dev mailing list > >> Dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org > >> https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Gracias por no enviar cadenas. > > Ing. V?ctor Ortiz P?rez > > AcceTT - Soluciones Computacionales > > M?rtires 28 de Agosto #134 esq. Ruiz Cortines > > Col. Ferrer Guardia Xalapa, Veracruz CP 91020 > > Tel. (228) 840 3284 > > WA 228 840 3284 > > victor@accett.com.mx > > www.accett.com.mx > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Dolibarr-dev mailing list > > Dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org > > https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev > > > > > > -- > > https://gpcsolutions.fr > Technopole H?lioparc > 2 avenue du Pr?sident Pierre Angot > 64053 PAU CEDEX 9 > SARL GPC.solutions au capital de 7 500 ? - R.C.S. PAU 528 995 921 > < > http://wiki.dolibarr.org/index.php/Dolibarr_suppliers_France#GPC.solution= s > > > < > http://www.google.com/a/partnersearch/#partner?partner_id=3D46687933_a0n6= 0000000sqpWAAQ&partner_name=3DGPC.solutions > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/dolibarr-dev/attachments/20151208/f7= 77b96f/attachment.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 10:07:47 +0100 > From: Fr?d?ric FRANCE > To: Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding > > Subject: Re: [Dolibarr-dev] Dolibarr 3.9 freeze > Message-ID: <56669DE3.8020603@free.fr> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"windows-1252" > > Hello > Paypal stops support of TLSv1 in january 2016 > Maybe we need to update paypal.lib.php > > curl_setopt($ch, CURLOPT_SSLVERSION, 6); // Force TLSv1.2 > > >From paypal in french: > 14 janvier 2016 : Apr?s cette date, les points de terminaison API de > l'environnement de test prendront en charge uniquement les nouvelles > normes (HTTP/1.1, TLS 1.2 et certificats SHA-256). > www.sandbox.paypal.com acceptera donc uniquement HTTPS pour les envois > IPN. > > > https://www.paypal-knowledge.com/infocenter/index?page=3Dcontent&id=3DFAQ= 1913&expand=3Dtrue&locale=3Dfr_FR > > > https://www.paypal-knowledge.com/infocenter/index?page=3Dcontent&id=3DFAQ= 1913&expand=3Dtrue&locale=3Den_US > > Fr?d?ric FRANCE > > Le 06/12/2015 14:52, Laurent Destailleur (aka Eldy) a ?crit : > > > > As usual, i am a little bit late compared to roadmap for the > > annoucement of the freez of version 3.9 > > > > There was so exiting changes into interface on the road that i would > > like to have them finished and stable to start the freeze. > > It's done. > > > > Starting from today, no new features will be added from PR. > > > > I will create the branch 3.9 soon, but please, everybody, let's start > > to debug the current develop version ans send fixes. > > > > > > Version 3.9 should have a better compatibility with external modules > > that 3.8, so i think you can already check your externale modules are > > still working. > > The Changelog provides information on what was necessarly changed and > > may create regression for external modules. > > > > > > > > > > Laurent (eldy) > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----------- > > Google+: https://plus.google.com/+LaurentDestailleur/ > > Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Destailleur.Laurent > > Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/eldy10 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Dolibarr-dev mailing list > > Dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org > > https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/dolibarr-dev/attachments/20151208/28= a09952/attachment.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Dolibarr-dev mailing list > Dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org > https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev > > > End of Dolibarr-dev Digest, Vol 153, Issue 4 > ******************************************** > --001a113f97b2711142052660dd79 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

It is just a release calendar to set the steps no ? Versions= doesn't=C2=A0 need to have a certain amount of new features... except = in commercial softwares maybe...

And the pace is great to focus attention of dev community ju= st before releases to correct issues as Rdoursenaud wants to invite.

It should be great to find a way to focus attention of users= and theirs integrators also to report bugs and requests just after the rel= ease to set a certain "rythm" also.

I imagine that the sooner and less stable the release is... = the later the migration of users will be so it is good for Devs to have tim= e to adapt modules ;)

Users willing to adopt a 3.9 should wait 3.9.1 to get semi s= olid production environment and 3.9.2 to have a stable one.

Hub

Hubert ANDRIOLO
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=C2=A0 =C2=A01. Re: Dolibarr 3.9 freeze (Doursenaud)
=C2=A0 =C2=A02. Re: Dolibarr 3.9 freeze (Fr?d?ric FRANCE)


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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 09:42:34 +0100
From: Doursenaud, Rapha?l <rdoursenaud@gpcsolutions.fr>
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Hi everyone,

The free software is all about release early, release often.
No matter how much we wait, there will never be a perfectly ironed out
version.
Much less when some want to push major features just before release.

If there's something the 3.8 release taught us, it is that bugs were uncovered too late in the release cycle.
So start testing, reporting and fixing bugs now!

There's already 19 issues that needs fixing:
https://github.com/Dolibarr/dolibarr/milestones= /3.7.3
https://github.com/Dolibarr/dolibarr/milestones= /3.8.3
https://github.com/Dolibarr/dolibarr/milestones= /3.9.0

I'll start a marathon tomorrow from noon till dawn (CET timezone), anyo= ne
interested, join me on #dolibarr IRC channel at freenode.
Let's make it fun :)

Cheers,


*Rapha?l Doursenaud*
Directeur technique (CTO)
Expert certifi? en d?ploiement Google Apps
<https://gp= csolutions.fr/raphael-doursenaud-google-apps-certified-deployment-specialis= t>
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2015-12-07 22:46 GMT+01:00 Ing. V?ctor Ortiz P?rez <victor@accett.com.mx>:

> IMHO:
>
> I agree. I think is too fast, maybe waiting more, the new version coul= d be
> tested enough to decrease the number of bugs of the last release.
>
> I understand that there is a schedule maybe it have to be rescheduled.=
>
> 2015-12-07 14:32 GMT-06:00 Olivier Geffroy <jeff@jeffinfo.com>:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> why launch the 3.9 ?
>> we have a lot of problems with 3.8, it's disturbing for users.= It will be
>> better to spend the next 6 months in order to correct the 3.8 and = show that
>> we care about stability (don't be Microsoft..)
>> my 2 cents
>>
>> 2015-12-07 10:01 GMT+01:00 Florian HENRY <florian.henry@open-concept.pro>
>> :
>>
>>> Laurent,
>>>
>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Can you create 3.8_backport branch ?=
>>>
>>> Regard
>>>
>>> Florian Henry+33 6 03 76 48 07florian.henry@open-concept.proht= tp://www.open-concept.pro
>>> Twitter : @_Open_Concept_
>>> Google+ : https://www.google.com/+Open-conceptPr= o
>>>
>>> Le 06/12/2015 15:09, charles benke.fr a ?crit :
>>>
>>> Hello Laurent
>>>
>>> Please don?t freez the 3.9 till end of year,
>>>
>>> we have planned 3 week of work on accounting modules whose a r= eal
>>> advance on Dolibarr than a better interface
>>>
>>> and I don?t the advancement on native multidevis on
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Charlie (defrance)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *De :* dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3Dbenke.fr@nongnu.org [
>>> mailto:do= libarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3D= benke.fr@nongnu.org
>>> <dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3Dbenke.fr@nongnu.org>] *De la part de*
>>> Laurent Destailleur (aka Eldy)
>>> *Envoy? :* dimanche 6 d?cembre 2015 14:53
>>> *? :* ML Dolibarr dev <dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org>
>>> <dolibarr-dev@no= ngnu.org>
>>> *Objet :* [Dolibarr-dev] Dolibarr 3.9 freeze
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As usual, i am a little bit late compared to roadmap for the a= nnoucement
>>> of the freez of version 3.9
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> There was so exiting changes into interface on the road that i= would
>>> like to have them finished and stable to start the freeze.
>>>
>>> It's done.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Starting from today, no new features will be added from PR. >>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I will create the branch 3.9 soon, but please, everybody, let&= #39;s start to
>>> debug the current develop version ans send fixes.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Version 3.9 should have a better compatibility with external m= odules
>>> that 3.8, so i think you can already check your externale modu= les are still
>>> working.
>>>
>>> The Changelog provides information on what was necessarly chan= ged and
>>> may create regression for external modules.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Laurent (eldy)
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------= ----------------------
>>> Google+: https://plus.google.com/+LaurentDe= stailleur/
>>> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Destaill= eur.Laurent
>>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/eldy10
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>
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>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> *Olivier Geffroy**Consultant Informatique*
>>
>>
>>
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>
>
> --
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From: Fr?d?ric FRANCE <freder= ic.france@free.fr>
To: Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding
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Hello
Paypal stops support of TLSv1 in january 2016
Maybe we need to update paypal.lib.php

curl_setopt($ch, CURLOPT_SSLVERSION, 6); // Force TLSv1.2

>From paypal in french:
14 janvier 2016 : Apr?s cette date, les points de terminaison API de
l'environnement de test prendront en charge uniquement les nouvelles normes (HTTP/1.1, TLS 1.2 et certificats SHA-256).
www.sandbox.paypal.com acceptera donc uniquement HTTPS pour les env= ois IPN.

https://www.paypal-knowledge.com/infocenter/index?page=3D= content&id=3DFAQ1913&expand=3Dtrue&locale=3Dfr_FR

https://www.paypal-knowledge.com/infocenter/index?page=3D= content&id=3DFAQ1913&expand=3Dtrue&locale=3Den_US

Fr?d?ric FRANCE

Le 06/12/2015 14:52, Laurent Destailleur (aka Eldy) a ?crit :
>
> As usual, i am a little bit late compared to roadmap for the
> annoucement of the freez of version 3.9
>
> There was so exiting changes into interface on the road that i would > like to have them finished and stable to start the freeze.
> It's done.
>
> Starting from today, no new features will be added from PR.
>
> I will create the branch 3.9 soon, but please, everybody, let's st= art
> to debug the current develop version ans send fixes.
>
>
> Version 3.9 should have a better compatibility with external modules > that 3.8, so i think you can already check your externale modules are<= br> > still working.
> The Changelog provides information on what was necessarly changed and<= br> > may create regression for external modules.
>
>
>
>
> Laurent (eldy)
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------= --------------
> Google+: https://plus.google.com/+LaurentDestaille= ur/
> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Destailleur.Laur= ent
> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/eldy10
>
>
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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Also, please note that there are many issues in Doliforge that we are no longer able to access until they are migrated into Github=E2=80=A6 Regards, *Marcos Garc=C3=ADa* marcosgdf@gmail.com 2015-12-08 11:14 GMT+01:00 Doursenaud, Rapha=C3=ABl : > Please open an issue. > This has nothing to do with the release freeze announcement ;) > > *Rapha=C3=ABl Doursenaud* > Directeur technique (CTO) > Expert certifi=C3=A9 en d=C3=A9ploiement Google Apps > > +33 (0)5 35 53 97 13 - +33 (0)6 68 48 20 10 > > 2015-12-08 10:07 GMT+01:00 Fr=C3=A9d=C3=A9ric FRANCE : > >> Hello >> Paypal stops support of TLSv1 in january 2016 >> Maybe we need to update paypal.lib.php >> >> curl_setopt($ch, CURLOPT_SSLVERSION, 6); // Force TLSv1.2 >> >> From paypal in french: >> 14 janvier 2016 : Apr=C3=A8s cette date, les points de terminaison API d= e >> l'environnement de test prendront en charge uniquement les nouvelles nor= mes >> (HTTP/1.1, TLS 1.2 et certificats SHA-256). www.sandbox.paypal.com >> acceptera donc uniquement HTTPS pour les envois IPN. >> >> >> https://www.paypal-knowledge.com/infocenter/index?page=3Dcontent&id=3DFA= Q1913&expand=3Dtrue&locale=3Dfr_FR >> >> >> https://www.paypal-knowledge.com/infocenter/index?page=3Dcontent&id=3DFA= Q1913&expand=3Dtrue&locale=3Den_US >> >> Fr=C3=A9d=C3=A9ric FRANCE >> >> >> Le 06/12/2015 14:52, Laurent Destailleur (aka Eldy) a =C3=A9crit : >> >> >> As usual, i am a little bit late compared to roadmap for the annoucement >> of the freez of version 3.9 >> >> There was so exiting changes into interface on the road that i would lik= e >> to have them finished and stable to start the freeze. >> It's done. >> >> Starting from today, no new features will be added from PR. >> >> I will create the branch 3.9 soon, but please, everybody, let's start to >> debug the current develop version ans send fixes. >> >> >> Version 3.9 should have a better compatibility with external modules tha= t >> 3.8, so i think you can already check your externale modules are still >> working. >> The Changelog provides information on what was necessarly changed and ma= y >> create regression for external modules. >> >> >> >> >> Laurent (eldy) >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------ >> Google+: https://plus.google.com/+LaurentDestailleur/ >> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Destailleur.Laurent >> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/eldy10 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Dolibarr-dev mailing listDolibarr-dev@nongnu.orghttps://lists.nongnu.org= /mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Dolibarr-dev mailing list >> Dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org >> https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev >> >> > > > https://gpcsolutions.fr > Technopole H=C3=A9lioparc > 2 avenue du Pr=C3=A9sident Pierre Angot > 64053 PAU CEDEX 9 > SARL GPC.solutions au capital de 7 500 =E2=82=AC - R.C.S. 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Also, please note that there are many issues in Doliforge = that we are no longer able to access until they are migrated into Github=E2= =80=A6

Regards,
=C2=A0
Marcos Garc=C3=ADa
marcosgdf= @gmail.com

2015-12-08 11:14 GMT+01:00 Doursenaud, Rapha= =C3=ABl <rdoursenaud@gpcsolutions.fr>:
Please open an issue.
This has = nothing to do with the release freeze announcement ;)

2015-12-08 10:= 07 GMT+01:00 Fr=C3=A9d=C3=A9ric FRANCE <frederic.france@free.fr&= gt;:
=20 =20 =20
Hello
Paypal stops support of TLSv1 in january 2016
Maybe we need to update paypal.lib.php

curl_setopt($ch, CURLOPT_SSLVERSION, 6); // Force TLSv1.2

From paypal in french:
14 janvier 2016 : Apr=C3=A8s cette date, les points de terminaison AP= I de l'environnement de test prendront en charge uniquement les nouvelles normes (HTTP/1.1, TLS 1.2 et certificats SHA-256). www.sandb= ox.paypal.com acceptera donc uniquement HTTPS pour les envois IPN.

h= ttps://www.paypal-knowledge.com/infocenter/index?page=3Dcontent&id=3DFA= Q1913&expand=3Dtrue&locale=3Dfr_FR

h= ttps://www.paypal-knowledge.com/infocenter/index?page=3Dcontent&id=3DFA= Q1913&expand=3Dtrue&locale=3Den_US

Fr=C3=A9d=C3=A9ric FRANCE


Le 06/12/2015 14:52, Laurent Destailleur (aka Eldy) a =C3=A9crit=C2= =A0:

As usual, i am a little bit late compared to roadmap for the annoucement of the freez of version 3.9

There was so exiting changes into interface on the road that i would like to have them finished and stable to start the freeze.
It's done.

Starting from today, no new features will be added from PR.

I will create the branch 3.9 soon, but please, everybody, let's start to debug the current develop version ans send fixes.=C2=A0


Version 3.9 should have a better compatibility with external modules that 3.8, so i think you can already check your externale modules are still working.
The Changelog provides information on what was necessarly changed and may create regression for external modules.




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We are talking about an ERP, not a browser or a music player ! an ERP=20 often needs several months to be put in production, and we dont change=20 version every 6 months ! My 2 cents as an integrator. --------------------------------------- /Christophe Battarel Responsable technique Altairis/ +33 (0)9 52 71 70 96 Altairis - Blog -=20 Modules Dolibarr - Twitter=20 Le 08/12/2015 11:59, Hubert Andriolo a =E9crit : > > It is just a release calendar to set the steps no ? Versions doesn't =20 > need to have a certain amount of new features... except in commercial=20 > softwares maybe... > > And the pace is great to focus attention of dev community just before=20 > releases to correct issues as Rdoursenaud wants to invite. > > It should be great to find a way to focus attention of users and=20 > theirs integrators also to report bugs and requests just after the=20 > release to set a certain "rythm" also. > > I imagine that the sooner and less stable the release is... the later=20 > the migration of users will be so it is good for Devs to have time to=20 > adapt modules ;) > > Users willing to adopt a 3.9 should wait 3.9.1 to get semi solid=20 > production environment and 3.9.2 to have a stable one. > > Hub > > Hubert ANDRIOLO > G=E9rant FM MEDICAL > 0033623101731 > > Le 8 d=E9c. 2015 10:09, > a =E9crit : > > Send Dolibarr-dev mailing list submissions to > dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > dolibarr-dev-request@nongnu.org > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > dolibarr-dev-owner@nongnu.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Dolibarr-dev digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Dolibarr 3.9 freeze (Doursenaud) > 2. Re: Dolibarr 3.9 freeze (Fr?d?ric FRANCE) > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------= --- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 09:42:34 +0100 > From: Doursenaud, Rapha?l > > To: "Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding" > > > Subject: Re: [Dolibarr-dev] Dolibarr 3.9 freeze > Message-ID: > =20 > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8" > > Hi everyone, > > The free software is all about release early, release often. > No matter how much we wait, there will never be a perfectly ironed = out > version. > Much less when some want to push major features just before release= . > > If there's something the 3.8 release taught us, it is that bugs wer= e > uncovered too late in the release cycle. > So start testing, reporting and fixing bugs now! > > There's already 19 issues that needs fixing: > https://github.com/Dolibarr/dolibarr/milestones/3.7.3 > https://github.com/Dolibarr/dolibarr/milestones/3.8.3 > https://github.com/Dolibarr/dolibarr/milestones/3.9.0 > > I'll start a marathon tomorrow from noon till dawn (CET timezone), > anyone > interested, join me on #dolibarr IRC channel at freenode. > Let's make it fun :) > > Cheers, > > > *Rapha?l Doursenaud* > Directeur technique (CTO) > Expert certifi? en d?ploiement Google Apps > > +33 (0)5 35 53 97 13 - > +33 (0)6 68 48 20 10 > > 2015-12-07 22:46 GMT+01:00 Ing. V?ctor Ortiz P?rez > >: > > > IMHO: > > > > I agree. I think is too fast, maybe waiting more, the new > version could be > > tested enough to decrease the number of bugs of the last release. > > > > I understand that there is a schedule maybe it have to be > rescheduled. > > > > 2015-12-07 14:32 GMT-06:00 Olivier Geffroy >: > > > >> Hi all, > >> > >> why launch the 3.9 ? > >> we have a lot of problems with 3.8, it's disturbing for users. > It will be > >> better to spend the next 6 months in order to correct the 3.8 > and show that > >> we care about stability (don't be Microsoft..) > >> my 2 cents > >> > >> 2015-12-07 10:01 GMT+01:00 Florian HENRY > > > >> : > >> > >>> Laurent, > >>> > >>> Can you create 3.8_backport branch ? > >>> > >>> Regard > >>> > >>> Florian Henry+33 6 03 76 48 > 07florian.henry@open-concept.prohttp://www.open-concept.pro > > >>> Twitter : @_Open_Concept_ > >>> Google+ : https://www.google.com/+Open-conceptPro > >>> > >>> Le 06/12/2015 15:09, charles benke.fr a ?crit= : > >>> > >>> Hello Laurent > >>> > >>> Please don?t freez the 3.9 till end of year, > >>> > >>> we have planned 3 week of work on accounting modules whose a re= al > >>> advance on Dolibarr than a better interface > >>> > >>> and I don?t the advancement on native multidevis on > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Charlie (defrance) > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> *De :* dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr > =3Dbenke.fr@nongnu.org [ > >>> mailto:dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr > =3Dbenke.fr@nongnu.org > > >>> =3Dbenke.fr@nongnu.org > >] *De la part de* > >>> Laurent Destailleur (aka Eldy) > >>> *Envoy? :* dimanche 6 d?cembre 2015 14:53 > >>> *? :* ML Dolibarr dev > > >>> > > >>> *Objet :* [Dolibarr-dev] Dolibarr 3.9 freeze > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> As usual, i am a little bit late compared to roadmap for the > annoucement > >>> of the freez of version 3.9 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> There was so exiting changes into interface on the road that i > would > >>> like to have them finished and stable to start the freeze. > >>> > >>> It's done. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Starting from today, no new features will be added from PR. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> I will create the branch 3.9 soon, but please, everybody, > let's start to > >>> debug the current develop version ans send fixes. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Version 3.9 should have a better compatibility with external > modules > >>> that 3.8, so i think you can already check your externale > modules are still > >>> working. > >>> > >>> The Changelog provides information on what was necessarly > changed and > >>> may create regression for external modules. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Laurent (eldy) > >>> > >>> > -------------------------------------------------------------------= ----------------- > >>> Google+: https://plus.google.com/+LaurentDestailleur/ > >>> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Destailleur.Laurent > >>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/eldy10 > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Dolibarr-dev mailing > listDolibarr-dev@nongnu.orghttps://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinf= o/dolibarr-dev > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Dolibarr-dev mailing list > >>> Dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org > >>> https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> > >> *Olivier Geffroy**Consultant Informatique* > >> > >> > >> > >> *Jeffinfo a 15 ans cette ann?e > >> > -------------= ------------------------* > >> > >> *Jeffinfo SARL**295 rue d'aire **59660 Merville* > >> > >> > >> *jeff@jeffinfo.com > >Gsm : 0608632740 > <0608632740 >**Skype > >> : darkj3ff* > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Dolibarr-dev mailing list > >> Dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org > >> https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Gracias por no enviar cadenas. > > Ing. V?ctor Ortiz P?rez > > AcceTT - Soluciones Computacionales > > M?rtires 28 de Agosto #134 esq. Ruiz Cortines > > Col. Ferrer Guardia Xalapa, Veracruz CP 91020 > > Tel. (228) 840 3284 > > WA 228 840 3284 > > victor@accett.com.mx > > www.accett.com.mx > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Dolibarr-dev mailing list > > Dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org > > https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev > > > > > > -- > > https://gpcsolutions.fr > Technopole H?lioparc > 2 avenue du Pr?sident Pierre Angot > 64053 PAU CEDEX 9 > SARL GPC.solutions au capital de 7 500 ? - R.C.S. PAU 528 995 921 > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 10:07:47 +0100 > From: Fr?d?ric FRANCE > > To: Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding > > > Subject: Re: [Dolibarr-dev] Dolibarr 3.9 freeze > Message-ID: <56669DE3.8020603@free.fr > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"windows-1252" > > Hello > Paypal stops support of TLSv1 in january 2016 > Maybe we need to update paypal.lib.php > > curl_setopt($ch, CURLOPT_SSLVERSION, 6); // Force TLSv1.2 > > >From paypal in french: > 14 janvier 2016 : Apr?s cette date, les points de terminaison API d= e > l'environnement de test prendront en charge uniquement les nouvelle= s > normes (HTTP/1.1, TLS 1.2 et certificats SHA-256). > www.sandbox.paypal.com acceptera > donc uniquement HTTPS pour les envois IPN. > > https://www.paypal-knowledge.com/infocenter/index?page=3Dcontent&id= =3DFAQ1913&expand=3Dtrue&locale=3Dfr_FR > > https://www.paypal-knowledge.com/infocenter/index?page=3Dcontent&id= =3DFAQ1913&expand=3Dtrue&locale=3Den_US > > Fr?d?ric FRANCE > > Le 06/12/2015 14:52, Laurent Destailleur (aka Eldy) a ?crit : > > > > As usual, i am a little bit late compared to roadmap for the > > annoucement of the freez of version 3.9 > > > > There was so exiting changes into interface on the road that i wo= uld > > like to have them finished and stable to start the freeze. > > It's done. > > > > Starting from today, no new features will be added from PR. > > > > I will create the branch 3.9 soon, but please, everybody, let's > start > > to debug the current develop version ans send fixes. > > > > > > Version 3.9 should have a better compatibility with external modu= les > > that 3.8, so i think you can already check your externale > modules are > > still working. > > The Changelog provides information on what was necessarly > changed and > > may create regression for external modules. > > > > > > > > > > Laurent (eldy) > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------= ----------------- > > Google+: https://plus.google.com/+LaurentDestailleur/ > > Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Destailleur.Laurent > > Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/eldy10 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Dolibarr-dev mailing list > > Dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org > > https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Dolibarr-dev mailing list > Dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org > https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev > > > End of Dolibarr-dev Digest, Vol 153, Issue 4 > ******************************************** > > > > _______________________________________________ > Dolibarr-dev mailing list > Dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org > https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev --------------070703020301090204070109 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "It should be great to find a way to focus attention of users and theirs integrators also to report bugs and requests just after the release to set a certain "rythm" also."

We are talking about an ERP, not a browser or a music player ! an ERP often needs several months to be put in production, and we dont change version every 6 months !

My 2 cents as an integrator.

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Le 08/12/2015 11:59, Hubert Andriolo a =E9crit=A0:

It is just a release calendar to set the steps no ? Versions doesn't=A0 need to have a certain amount of new features... except in commercial softwares maybe...

And the pace is great to focus attention of dev community just before releases to correct issues as Rdoursenaud wants to invite.

It should be great to find a way to focus attention of users and theirs integrators also to report bugs and requests just after the release to set a certain "rythm" also.

I imagine that the sooner and less stable the releas= e is... the later the migration of users will be so it is good for Devs to have time to adapt modules ;)

Users willing to adopt a 3.9 should wait 3.9.1 to ge= t semi solid production environment and 3.9.2 to have a stable one.

Hub

Hubert ANDRIOLO
G=E9rant FM MEDICAL
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Hi everyone,

The free software is all about release early, release often. No matter how much we wait, there will never be a perfectly ironed out
version.
Much less when some want to push major features just before release.

If there's something the 3.8 release taught us, it is that bugs were
uncovered too late in the release cycle.
So start testing, reporting and fixing bugs now!

There's already 19 issues that needs fixing:
https://github.com/Dolib= arr/dolibarr/milestones/3.7.3
https://github.com/Dolib= arr/dolibarr/milestones/3.8.3
https://github.com/Dolib= arr/dolibarr/milestones/3.9.0

I'll start a marathon tomorrow from noon till dawn (CET timezone), anyone
interested, join me on #dolibarr IRC channel at freenode.
Let's make it fun :)

Cheers,


*Rapha?l Doursenaud*
Directeur technique (CTO)
Expert certifi? en d?ploiement Google Apps
<https://gpcsolutions.fr/= raphael-doursenaud-google-apps-certified-deployment-specialist> +33 (0)5 35 53 97 13=A0- +33 (0)6 68 48 20 10

2015-12-07 22:46 GMT+01:00 Ing. V?ctor Ortiz P?rez <victor@accett.com.mx>:

> IMHO:
>
> I agree. I think is too fast, maybe waiting more, the new version could be
> tested enough to decrease the number of bugs of the last release.
>
> I understand that there is a schedule maybe it have to be rescheduled.
>
> 2015-12-07 14:32 GMT-06:00 Olivier Geffroy <jef= f@jeffinfo.com>:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> why launch the 3.9 ?
>> we have a lot of problems with 3.8, it's disturbing for users. It will be
>> better to spend the next 6 months in order to correct the 3.8 and show that
>> we care about stability (don't be Microsoft..)
>> my 2 cents
>>
>> 2015-12-07 10:01 GMT+01:00 Florian HENRY <fl= orian.henry@open-concept.pro>
>> :
>>
>>> Laurent,
>>>
>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Can you create 3.8_backport branch ?=
>>>
>>> Regard
>>>
>>> Florian Henry+33 6 03 76 48 07florian.henry@open-concept.prohttp://www.open-concept.pro
>>> Twitter : @_Open_Concept_
>>> Google+ : https://www.google.com/+= Open-conceptPro
>>>
>>> Le 06/12/2015 15:09, charles benke.fr a ?crit : >>>
>>> Hello Laurent
>>>
>>> Please don?t freez the 3.9 till end of year,
>>>
>>> we have planned 3 week of work on accounting modules whose a real
>>> advance on Dolibarr than a better interface
>>>
>>> and I don?t the advancement on native multidevis on
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Charlie (defrance)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *De :* dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3D= benke.fr@nongnu.org [
>>> mailto:dolibarr-de= v-bounces+charles.fr=3D= benke.fr@nongnu.org
>>> <dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3D= benke.fr@nongnu.org>] *De la part de*
>>> Laurent Destailleur (aka Eldy)
>>> *Envoy? :* dimanche 6 d?cembre 2015 14:53
>>> *? :* ML Dolibarr dev <dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org>
>>> <dolibarr-dev@nongnu.o= rg>
>>> *Objet :* [Dolibarr-dev] Dolibarr 3.9 freeze
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As usual, i am a little bit late compared to roadmap for the annoucement
>>> of the freez of version 3.9
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> There was so exiting changes into interface on the road that i would
>>> like to have them finished and stable to start the freeze.
>>>
>>> It's done.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Starting from today, no new features will be added from PR.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I will create the branch 3.9 soon, but please, everybody, let's start to
>>> debug the current develop version ans send fixes.<= br> >>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Version 3.9 should have a better compatibility with external modules
>>> that 3.8, so i think you can already check your externale modules are still
>>> working.
>>>
>>> The Changelog provides information on what was necessarly changed and
>>> may create regression for external modules.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Laurent (eldy)
>>>
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Hello
Paypal stops support of TLSv1 in january 2016
Maybe we need to update paypal.lib.php

curl_setopt($ch, CURLOPT_SSLVERSION, 6); // Force TLSv1.2

>From paypal in french:
14 janvier 2016 : Apr?s cette date, les points de terminaison API de
l'environnement de test prendront en charge uniquement les nouvelles
normes (HTTP/1.1, TLS 1.2 et certificats SHA-256).
www.sandbox.paypal.com acceptera donc uniquement HTTPS pour les envois IPN.

https://www.paypal-knowl= edge.com/infocenter/index?page=3Dcontent&id=3DFAQ1913&expand=3Dtr= ue&locale=3Dfr_FR

https://www.paypal-knowl= edge.com/infocenter/index?page=3Dcontent&id=3DFAQ1913&expand=3Dtr= ue&locale=3Den_US

Fr?d?ric FRANCE

Le 06/12/2015 14:52, Laurent Destailleur (aka Eldy) a ?crit : >
> As usual, i am a little bit late compared to roadmap for the
> annoucement of the freez of version 3.9
>
> There was so exiting changes into interface on the road that i would
> like to have them finished and stable to start the freeze.
> It's done.
>
> Starting from today, no new features will be added from PR.
>
> I will create the branch 3.9 soon, but please, everybody, let's start
> to debug the current develop version ans send fixes.
>
>
> Version 3.9 should have a better compatibility with external modules
> that 3.8, so i think you can already check your externale modules are
> still working.
> The Changelog provides information on what was necessarly changed and
> may create regression for external modules.
>
>
>
>
> Laurent (eldy)
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------= -----------
> Google+: https://plus.google.com/= +LaurentDestailleur/
> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com= /Destailleur.Laurent
> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/eldy10
>
>
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Bug free software simply don't exist without it. No matter how much effort you put into writing your code, there's always a corner case you didn't account for, a subtle undesirable side effect you didn't spot, a language idiosyncrasy you didn't know about, a shitty browser implementation, a spooky server bug=E2=80=A6 anything, reall= y. Off to testing ;) Cheers, *Rapha=C3=ABl Doursenaud* Directeur technique (CTO) Expert certifi=C3=A9 en d=C3=A9ploiement Google Apps +33 (0)5 35 53 97 13 - +33 (0)6 68 48 20 10 2015-12-09 4:31 GMT+01:00 Christophe Battarel < christophe.battarel@altairis.fr>: > "It should be great to find a way to focus attention of users and theirs > integrators also to report bugs and requests just after the release to se= t > a certain "rythm" also." > > We are talking about an ERP, not a browser or a music player ! an ERP > often needs several months to be put in production, and we dont change > version every 6 months ! > > My 2 cents as an integrator. > > --------------------------------------- > > *Christophe Battarel Responsable technique Altairis* > +33 (0)9 52 71 70 96 > Altairis - Blog - = Modules > Dolibarr - Twitter > > > > > > > > > Le 08/12/2015 11:59, Hubert Andriolo a =C3=A9crit : > > It is just a release calendar to set the steps no ? Versions doesn't nee= d > to have a certain amount of new features... except in commercial software= s > maybe... > > And the pace is great to focus attention of dev community just before > releases to correct issues as Rdoursenaud wants to invite. > > It should be great to find a way to focus attention of users and theirs > integrators also to report bugs and requests just after the release to se= t > a certain "rythm" also. > > I imagine that the sooner and less stable the release is... the later the > migration of users will be so it is good for Devs to have time to adapt > modules ;) > > Users willing to adopt a 3.9 should wait 3.9.1 to get semi solid > production environment and 3.9.2 to have a stable one. > > Hub > > Hubert ANDRIOLO > G=C3=A9rant FM MEDICAL > 0033623101731 > Le 8 d=C3=A9c. 2015 10:09, < > dolibarr-dev-request@nongnu.org> a =C3=A9crit : > >> Send Dolibarr-dev mailing list submissions to >> dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> dolibarr-dev-request@nongnu.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> dolibarr-dev-owner@nongnu.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Dolibarr-dev digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Dolibarr 3.9 freeze (Doursenaud) >> 2. Re: Dolibarr 3.9 freeze (Fr?d?ric FRANCE) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 09:42:34 +0100 >> From: Doursenaud, Rapha?l >> To: "Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding" >> >> Subject: Re: [Dolibarr-dev] Dolibarr 3.9 freeze >> Message-ID: >> > >> bjRKgojV775Qd8ELtNyzxQ@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8" >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> The free software is all about release early, release often. >> No matter how much we wait, there will never be a perfectly ironed out >> version. >> Much less when some want to push major features just before release. >> >> If there's something the 3.8 release taught us, it is that bugs were >> uncovered too late in the release cycle. >> So start testing, reporting and fixing bugs now! >> >> There's already 19 issues that needs fixing: >> https://github.com/Dolibarr/dolibarr/milestones/3.7.3 >> https://github.com/Dolibarr/dolibarr/milestones/3.8.3 >> https://github.com/Dolibarr/dolibarr/milestones/3.9.0 >> >> I'll start a marathon tomorrow from noon till dawn (CET timezone), anyon= e >> interested, join me on #dolibarr IRC channel at freenode. >> Let's make it fun :) >> >> Cheers, >> >> >> *Rapha?l Doursenaud* >> Directeur technique (CTO) >> Expert certifi? en d?ploiement Google Apps >> < >> https://gpcsolutions.fr/raphael-doursenaud-google-apps-certified-deploym= ent-specialist >> > >> +33 (0)5 35 53 97 13 - +33 (0)6 68 48 20 10 >> >> 2015-12-07 22:46 GMT+01:00 Ing. V?ctor Ortiz P?rez < >> victor@accett.com.mx>: >> >> > IMHO: >> > >> > I agree. I think is too fast, maybe waiting more, the new version coul= d >> be >> > tested enough to decrease the number of bugs of the last release. >> > >> > I understand that there is a schedule maybe it have to be rescheduled. >> > >> > 2015-12-07 14:32 GMT-06:00 Olivier Geffroy < >> jeff@jeffinfo.com>: >> > >> >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> why launch the 3.9 ? >> >> we have a lot of problems with 3.8, it's disturbing for users. It wil= l >> be >> >> better to spend the next 6 months in order to correct the 3.8 and sho= w >> that >> >> we care about stability (don't be Microsoft..) >> >> my 2 cents >> >> >> >> 2015-12-07 10:01 GMT+01:00 Florian HENRY < >> florian.henry@open-concept.pro> >> >> : >> >> >> >>> Laurent, >> >>> >> >>> Can you create 3.8_backport branch ? >> >>> >> >>> Regard >> >>> >> >>> Florian Henry+33 6 03 76 48 07florian.henry@open-concept.prohttp:// >> www.open-concept.pro >> >>> Twitter : @_Open_Concept_ >> >>> Google+ : https://www.google.com/+Open-conceptPro >> >>> >> >>> Le 06/12/2015 15:09, charles benke.fr a ?crit : >> >>> >> >>> Hello Laurent >> >>> >> >>> Please don?t freez the 3.9 till end of year, >> >>> >> >>> we have planned 3 week of work on accounting modules whose a real >> >>> advance on Dolibarr than a better interface >> >>> >> >>> and I don?t the advancement on native multidevis on >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Charlie (defrance) >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> *De :* dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3D >> benke.fr@nongnu.org [ >> >>> mailto:dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3D >> benke.fr@nongnu.org >> >>> >> benke.fr@nongnu.org>] *De la part de* >> >>> Laurent Destailleur (aka Eldy) >> >>> *Envoy? :* dimanche 6 d?cembre 2015 14:53 >> >>> *? :* ML Dolibarr dev < >> dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org> >> >>> >> >>> *Objet :* [Dolibarr-dev] Dolibarr 3.9 freeze >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> As usual, i am a little bit late compared to roadmap for the >> annoucement >> >>> of the freez of version 3.9 >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> There was so exiting changes into interface on the road that i would >> >>> like to have them finished and stable to start the freeze. >> >>> >> >>> It's done. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Starting from today, no new features will be added from PR. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> I will create the branch 3.9 soon, but please, everybody, let's star= t >> to >> >>> debug the current develop version ans send fixes. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Version 3.9 should have a better compatibility with external modules >> >>> that 3.8, so i think you can already check your externale modules ar= e >> still >> >>> working. >> >>> >> >>> The Changelog provides information on what was necessarly changed an= d >> >>> may create regression for external modules. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Laurent (eldy) >> >>> >> >>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------ >> >>> Google+: https://plus.google.com/+LaurentDestailleur/ >> >>> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Destailleur.Laurent >> >>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/eldy10 >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Dolibarr-dev mailing listDolibarr-dev@nongnu.orghttps:// >> lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Dolibarr-dev mailing list >> >>> Dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org >> >>> https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> >> *Olivier Geffroy**Consultant Informatique* >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *Jeffinfo a 15 ans cette ann?e >> >> > >-------------------------------------* >> >> >> >> *Jeffinfo SARL**295 rue d'aire **59660 Merville* >> >> >> >> >> >> *jeff@jeffinfo.com < jeff@jeffinfo.com>Gsm : >> 0608632740 <0608632740>**Skype >> >> : darkj3ff* >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Dolibarr-dev mailing list >> >> Dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org >> >> https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Gracias por no enviar cadenas. >> > Ing. V?ctor Ortiz P?rez >> > AcceTT - Soluciones Computacionales >> > M?rtires 28 de Agosto #134 esq. Ruiz Cortines >> > Col. Ferrer Guardia Xalapa, Veracruz CP 91020 >> > Tel. (228) 840 3284 >> > WA 228 840 3284 >> > victor@accett.com.mx >> > www.accett.com.mx >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Dolibarr-dev mailing list >> > Dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org >> > https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev >> > >> > >> >> -- >> >> https://gpcsolutions.fr >> Technopole H?lioparc >> 2 avenue du Pr?sident Pierre Angot >> 64053 PAU CEDEX 9 >> SARL GPC.solutions au capital de 7 500 ? - R.C.S. PAU 528 995 921 >> < >> http://wiki.dolibarr.org/index.php/Dolibarr_suppliers_France#GPC.solutio= ns >> > >> < >> http://www.google.com/a/partnersearch/#partner?partner_id=3D46687933_a0n= 60000000sqpWAAQ&partner_name=3DGPC.solutions >> > >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/dolibarr-dev/attachments/20151208/f= 777b96f/attachment.html >> > >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 10:07:47 +0100 >> From: Fr?d?ric FRANCE >> To: Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding >> >> Subject: Re: [Dolibarr-dev] Dolibarr 3.9 freeze >> Message-ID: <56669DE3.8020603@free.fr> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"windows-1252" >> >> Hello >> Paypal stops support of TLSv1 in january 2016 >> Maybe we need to update paypal.lib.php >> >> curl_setopt($ch, CURLOPT_SSLVERSION, 6); // Force TLSv1.2 >> >> >From paypal in french: >> 14 janvier 2016 : Apr?s cette date, les points de terminaison API de >> l'environnement de test prendront en charge uniquement les nouvelles >> normes (HTTP/1.1, TLS 1.2 et certificats SHA-256). >> www.sandbox.paypal.com acceptera donc uniquement HTTPS pour les envois >> IPN. >> >> >> https://www.paypal-knowledge.com/infocenter/index?page=3Dcontent&id=3DFA= Q1913&expand=3Dtrue&locale=3Dfr_FR >> >> >> https://www.paypal-knowledge.com/infocenter/index?page=3Dcontent&id=3DFA= Q1913&expand=3Dtrue&locale=3Den_US >> >> Fr?d?ric FRANCE >> >> Le 06/12/2015 14:52, Laurent Destailleur (aka Eldy) a ?crit : >> > >> > As usual, i am a little bit late compared to roadmap for the >> > annoucement of the freez of version 3.9 >> > >> > There was so exiting changes into interface on the road that i would >> > like to have them finished and stable to start the freeze. >> > It's done. >> > >> > Starting from today, no new features will be added from PR. >> > >> > I will create the branch 3.9 soon, but please, everybody, let's start >> > to debug the current develop version ans send fixes. >> > >> > >> > Version 3.9 should have a better compatibility with external modules >> > that 3.8, so i think you can already check your externale modules are >> > still working. >> > The Changelog provides information on what was necessarly changed and >> > may create regression for external modules. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Laurent (eldy) >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------ >> > Google+: https://plus.google.com/+LaurentDestailleur/ >> > Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Destailleur.Laurent >> > Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/eldy10 >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Dolibarr-dev mailing list >> > Dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org >> > https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/dolibarr-dev/attachments/20151208/2= 8a09952/attachment.html >> > >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Dolibarr-dev mailing list >> Dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org >> https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev >> >> >> End of Dolibarr-dev Digest, Vol 153, Issue 4 >> ******************************************** >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Dolibarr-dev mailing listDolibarr-dev@nongnu.orghttps://lists.nongnu.org/= mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev > > > > _______________________________________________ > Dolibarr-dev mailing list > Dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org > https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev > > --=20 https://gpcsolutions.fr Technopole H=C3=A9lioparc 2 avenue du Pr=C3=A9sident Pierre Angot 64053 PAU CEDEX 9 SARL GPC.solutions au capital de 7 500 =E2=82=AC - R.C.S. 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Hi Christophe,

While I under= stand your views, that should not prevent you from testing alpha and betas = and reporting bugs to have a better version for your next project ;)
<= div>
Some things you can do:
- Use real data to che= ck for regressions in the upgrade path (This is very important, particularl= y if you tend to skip versions).
- Try=C2=A0your customers' c= ritical workflows, again to spot regressions
- Check compatibilit= y with your usual platforms (servers, browsers=E2=80=A6)
- Learn = and discover new features your customers may need
- Have fun doin= g that :)

Early feedback is critical. Bug free sof= tware simply don't exist without it. No matter how much effort you put = into writing your code, there's always a corner case you didn't acc= ount for, a subtle undesirable side effect you didn't spot, a language = idiosyncrasy you didn't know about, a shitty browser implementation, a = spooky server bug=E2=80=A6 anything, really.

Off t= o testing ;)

Cheers,


Rapha=C3=ABl Doursena= ud
Directeur technique (CTO)
<= div style=3D"text-align:left">Exp= ert certifi=C3=A9 en d=C3=A9ploiement Google Apps
+33 (0)5 35 53 97 13 - +33 (0)6 68 48 20 10

2015-12-09 4:31 GMT+01:00 Christophe Battare= l <christophe.battarel@altairis.fr>:
=20 =20 =20
"It should be great to find a way to focus attention of users and theirs integrators also to report bugs and requests just after the release to set a certain "rythm" also."

We are talking about an ERP, not a browser or a music player ! an ERP often needs several months to be put in production, and we dont change version every 6 months !

My 2 cents as an integrator.

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Le 08/12/2015 11:59, Hubert Andriolo a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:

It is just a release calendar to set the steps no ? Versions doesn't=C2=A0 need to have a certain amount of new features... except in commercial softwares maybe...

And the pace is great to focus attention of dev community just before releases to correct issues as Rdoursenaud wants to invite.

It should be great to find a way to focus attention of users and theirs integrators also to report bugs and requests just after the release to set a certain "rythm" also.

I imagine that the sooner and less stable the release is... the later the migration of users will be so it is good for Devs to have time to adapt modules ;)

Users willing to adopt a 3.9 should wait 3.9.1 to get semi solid production environment and 3.9.2 to have a stable one.

Hub

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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 09:42:34 +0100
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Hi everyone,

The free software is all about release early, release often.
No matter how much we wait, there will never be a perfectly ironed out
version.
Much less when some want to push major features just before release.

If there's something the 3.8 release taught us, it is that bugs were
uncovered too late in the release cycle.
So start testing, reporting and fixing bugs now!

There's already 19 issues that needs fixing:
https://github.com/Dolibarr/dolibarr/= milestones/3.7.3
https://github.com/Dolibarr/dolibarr/= milestones/3.8.3
https://github.com/Dolibarr/dolibarr/= milestones/3.9.0

I'll start a marathon tomorrow from noon till dawn (CET timezone), anyone
interested, join me on #dolibarr IRC channel at freenode.
Let's make it fun :)

Cheers,


*Rapha?l Doursenaud*
Directeur technique (CTO)
Expert certifi? en d?ploiement Google Apps
<= https://gpcsolutions.fr/raphael-doursenaud-google-apps-certified-deployment= -specialist>
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2015-12-07 22:46 GMT+01:00 Ing. V?ctor Ortiz P?rez <victor@accett.com.mx>:

> IMHO:
>
> I agree. I think is too fast, maybe waiting more, the new version could be
> tested enough to decrease the number of bugs of the last release.
>
> I understand that there is a schedule maybe it have to be rescheduled.
>
> 2015-12-07 14:32 GMT-06:00 Olivier Geffroy <jeff@jeffinfo.com>:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> why launch the 3.9 ?
>> we have a lot of problems with 3.8, it's disturbing for users. It will be
>> better to spend the next 6 months in order to correct the 3.8 and show that
>> we care about stability (don't be Microsoft..)
>> my 2 cents
>>
>> 2015-12-07 10:01 GMT+01:00 Florian HENRY <florian.henry@open-co= ncept.pro>
>> :
>>
>>> Laurent,
>>>
>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Can you create 3.8_backpor= t branch ?
>>>
>>> Regard
>>>
>>> Florian Henry+33 6 03 76 48 07florian.henry@open-concept.prohttp://www.open-concept.pro
>>> Twitter : @_Open_Concept_
>>> Google+ : https://www.google.com/+Open= -conceptPro
>>>
>>> Le 06/12/2015 15:09, charles benke.fr a ?crit :
>>>
>>> Hello Laurent
>>>
>>> Please don?t freez the 3.9 till end of year,
>>>
>>> we have planned 3 week of work on accounting modules whose a real
>>> advance on Dolibarr than a better interface
>>>
>>> and I don?t the advancement on native multidevis on
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Charlie (defrance)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *De :* dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3Dbenke.fr@nongnu.org [
>>> mailto:dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3Dbenke.fr@nongnu.org
>>> <dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3Dbenke.fr@nongnu.org>] *De la part de*
>>> Laurent Destailleur (aka Eldy)
>>> *Envoy? :* dimanche 6 d?cembre 2015 14:53
>>> *? :* ML Dolibarr dev <dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org>
>>> <dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org>
>>> *Objet :* [Dolibarr-dev] Dolibarr 3.9 freeze
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As usual, i am a little bit late compared to roadmap for the annoucement
>>> of the freez of version 3.9
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> There was so exiting changes into interface on the road that i would
>>> like to have them finished and stable to start the freeze.
>>>
>>> It's done.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Starting from today, no new features will be added from PR.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I will create the branch 3.9 soon, but please, everybody, let's start to
>>> debug the current develop version ans send fixes. >>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Version 3.9 should have a better compatibility with external modules
>>> that 3.8, so i think you can already check your externale modules are still
>>> working.
>>>
>>> The Changelog provides information on what was necessarly changed and
>>> may create regression for external modules.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Laurent (eldy)
>>>
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Fr?d?ric FRANCE

Le 06/12/2015 14:52, Laurent Destailleur (aka Eldy) a ?crit :
>
> As usual, i am a little bit late compared to roadmap for the
> annoucement of the freez of version 3.9
>
> There was so exiting changes into interface on the road that i would
> like to have them finished and stable to start the freeze.
> It's done.
>
> Starting from today, no new features will be added from PR.
>
> I will create the branch 3.9 soon, but please, everybody, let's start
> to debug the current develop version ans send fixes.
>
>
> Version 3.9 should have a better compatibility with external modules
> that 3.8, so i think you can already check your externale modules are
> still working.
> The Changelog provides information on what was necessarly changed and
> may create regression for external modules.
>
>
>
>
> Laurent (eldy)
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---------
> Google+: https://plus.google.com/+Laurent= Destailleur/
> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Destai= lleur.Laurent
> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/eldy10
>
>
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Bug free software simply don't exist without > it. No matter how much effort you put into writing your code, there's > always a corner case you didn't account for, a subtle undesirable side > effect you didn't spot, a language idiosyncrasy you didn't know about, a > shitty browser implementation, a spooky server bug=E2=80=A6 anything, rea= lly. > > Off to testing ;) > > Cheers, > > > *Rapha=C3=ABl Doursenaud* > Directeur technique (CTO) > Expert certifi=C3=A9 en d=C3=A9ploiement Google Apps > > +33 (0)5 35 53 97 13 - +33 (0)6 68 48 20 10 > > 2015-12-09 4:31 GMT+01:00 Christophe Battarel < > christophe.battarel@altairis.fr>: > >> "It should be great to find a way to focus attention of users and theirs >> integrators also to report bugs and requests just after the release to s= et >> a certain "rythm" also." >> >> We are talking about an ERP, not a browser or a music player ! an ERP >> often needs several months to be put in production, and we dont change >> version every 6 months ! >> >> My 2 cents as an integrator. >> >> --------------------------------------- >> >> *Christophe Battarel Responsable technique Altairis* >> +33 (0)9 52 71 70 96 >> Altairis - Blog -= Modules >> Dolibarr - Twitter >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Le 08/12/2015 11:59, Hubert Andriolo a =C3=A9crit : >> >> It is just a release calendar to set the steps no ? Versions doesn't >> need to have a certain amount of new features... except in commercial >> softwares maybe... >> >> And the pace is great to focus attention of dev community just before >> releases to correct issues as Rdoursenaud wants to invite. >> >> It should be great to find a way to focus attention of users and theirs >> integrators also to report bugs and requests just after the release to s= et >> a certain "rythm" also. >> >> I imagine that the sooner and less stable the release is... the later th= e >> migration of users will be so it is good for Devs to have time to adapt >> modules ;) >> >> Users willing to adopt a 3.9 should wait 3.9.1 to get semi solid >> production environment and 3.9.2 to have a stable one. >> >> Hub >> >> Hubert ANDRIOLO >> G=C3=A9rant FM MEDICAL >> 0033623101731 >> Le 8 d=C3=A9c. 2015 10:09, < >> dolibarr-dev-request@nongnu.org> a =C3=A9crit : >> >>> Send Dolibarr-dev mailing list submissions to >>> dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> dolibarr-dev-request@nongnu.org >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> dolibarr-dev-owner@nongnu.org >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of Dolibarr-dev digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: Dolibarr 3.9 freeze (Doursenaud) >>> 2. Re: Dolibarr 3.9 freeze (Fr?d?ric FRANCE) >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 09:42:34 +0100 >>> From: Doursenaud, Rapha?l >>> To: "Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding" >>> >>> Subject: Re: [Dolibarr-dev] Dolibarr 3.9 freeze >>> Message-ID: >>> >> >>> bjRKgojV775Qd8ELtNyzxQ@mail.gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8" >>> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> The free software is all about release early, release often. >>> No matter how much we wait, there will never be a perfectly ironed out >>> version. >>> Much less when some want to push major features just before release. >>> >>> If there's something the 3.8 release taught us, it is that bugs were >>> uncovered too late in the release cycle. >>> So start testing, reporting and fixing bugs now! >>> >>> There's already 19 issues that needs fixing: >>> https://github.com/Dolibarr/dolibarr/milestones/3.7.3 >>> https://github.com/Dolibarr/dolibarr/milestones/3.8.3 >>> https://github.com/Dolibarr/dolibarr/milestones/3.9.0 >>> >>> I'll start a marathon tomorrow from noon till dawn (CET timezone), anyo= ne >>> interested, join me on #dolibarr IRC channel at freenode. >>> Let's make it fun :) >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> >>> *Rapha?l Doursenaud* >>> Directeur technique (CTO) >>> Expert certifi? en d?ploiement Google Apps >>> < >>> https://gpcsolutions.fr/raphael-doursenaud-google-apps-certified-deploy= ment-specialist >>> > >>> +33 (0)5 35 53 97 13 - +33 (0)6 68 48 20 10 >>> >>> 2015-12-07 22:46 GMT+01:00 Ing. V?ctor Ortiz P?rez < >>> victor@accett.com.mx>: >>> >>> > IMHO: >>> > >>> > I agree. I think is too fast, maybe waiting more, the new version >>> could be >>> > tested enough to decrease the number of bugs of the last release. >>> > >>> > I understand that there is a schedule maybe it have to be rescheduled= . >>> > >>> > 2015-12-07 14:32 GMT-06:00 Olivier Geffroy < >>> jeff@jeffinfo.com>: >>> > >>> >> Hi all, >>> >> >>> >> why launch the 3.9 ? >>> >> we have a lot of problems with 3.8, it's disturbing for users. It >>> will be >>> >> better to spend the next 6 months in order to correct the 3.8 and >>> show that >>> >> we care about stability (don't be Microsoft..) >>> >> my 2 cents >>> >> >>> >> 2015-12-07 10:01 GMT+01:00 Florian HENRY < >>> florian.henry@open-concept.pro> >>> >> : >>> >> >>> >>> Laurent, >>> >>> >>> >>> Can you create 3.8_backport branch ? >>> >>> >>> >>> Regard >>> >>> >>> >>> Florian Henry+33 6 03 76 48 07florian.henry@open-concept.prohttp:// >>> www.open-concept.pro >>> >>> Twitter : @_Open_Concept_ >>> >>> Google+ : https://www.google.com/+Open-conceptPro >>> >>> >>> >>> Le 06/12/2015 15:09, charles benke.fr a ?crit : >>> >>> >>> >>> Hello Laurent >>> >>> >>> >>> Please don?t freez the 3.9 till end of year, >>> >>> >>> >>> we have planned 3 week of work on accounting modules whose a real >>> >>> advance on Dolibarr than a better interface >>> >>> >>> >>> and I don?t the advancement on native multidevis on >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Charlie (defrance) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *De :* dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3D >>> benke.fr@nongnu.org [ >>> >>> mailto:dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3D >>> benke.fr@nongnu.org >>> >>> >>> benke.fr@nongnu.org>] *De la part de* >>> >>> Laurent Destailleur (aka Eldy) >>> >>> *Envoy? :* dimanche 6 d?cembre 2015 14:53 >>> >>> *? :* ML Dolibarr dev < >>> dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org> >>> >>> >>> >>> *Objet :* [Dolibarr-dev] Dolibarr 3.9 freeze >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> As usual, i am a little bit late compared to roadmap for the >>> annoucement >>> >>> of the freez of version 3.9 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> There was so exiting changes into interface on the road that i woul= d >>> >>> like to have them finished and stable to start the freeze. >>> >>> >>> >>> It's done. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Starting from today, no new features will be added from PR. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I will create the branch 3.9 soon, but please, everybody, let's >>> start to >>> >>> debug the current develop version ans send fixes. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Version 3.9 should have a better compatibility with external module= s >>> >>> that 3.8, so i think you can already check your externale modules >>> are still >>> >>> working. >>> >>> >>> >>> The Changelog provides information on what was necessarly changed a= nd >>> >>> may create regression for external modules. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Laurent (eldy) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------- >>> >>> Google+: https://plus.google.com/+LaurentDestailleur/ >>> >>> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Destailleur.Laurent >>> >>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/eldy10 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Dolibarr-dev mailing listDolibarr-dev@nongnu.orghttps:// >>> lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Dolibarr-dev mailing list >>> >>> Dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org >>> >>> https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> *Olivier Geffroy**Consultant Informatique* >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> *Jeffinfo a 15 ans cette ann?e >>> >> >> >-------------------------------------* >>> >> >>> >> *Jeffinfo SARL**295 rue d'aire **59660 Merville* >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> *jeff@jeffinfo.com < jeff@jeffinfo.com>Gsm : >>> 0608632740 <0608632740>**Skype >>> >> : darkj3ff* >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Dolibarr-dev mailing list >>> >> Dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org >>> >> https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Gracias por no enviar cadenas. >>> > Ing. 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PAU 528 995 921 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Dolibarr-dev mailing list > Dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org > https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev > > --=20 *Olivier Geffroy**Consultant Informatique* *Jeffinfo a 15 ans cette ann=C3=A9e ---------------------= ----------------* *Jeffinfo SARL**295 rue d'aire **59660 Merville* *jeff@jeffinfo.com Gsm : 0608632740**Skype : darkj3ff* --001a1142cf742971c605267abd9c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
+1 to rapha=C3=ABl=C2=A0

it's reall= y crazy some times,=C2=A0

today, we debug accounti= ng with florian and test 2 databases (with real data)
And we have= differents bugs=C2=A0

test, test and re test , th= at's the key ^^

2015-12-09 12:15 GMT+01:00 Doursenaud, Rapha=C3=ABl <rdoursenaud@gpcsolutions.fr>:
Hi Christophe,

While I= understand your views, that should not prevent you from testing alpha and = betas and reporting bugs to have a better version for your next project ;)<= /div>

Some things you can do:
- Use real data = to check for regressions in the upgrade path (This is very important, parti= cularly if you tend to skip versions).
- Try=C2=A0your customers&= #39; critical workflows, again to spot regressions
- Check compat= ibility with your usual platforms (servers, browsers=E2=80=A6)
- = Learn and discover new features your customers may need
- Have fu= n doing that :)

Early feedback is critical. Bug fr= ee software simply don't exist without it. No matter how much effort yo= u put into writing your code, there's always a corner case you didn'= ;t account for, a subtle undesirable side effect you didn't spot, a lan= guage idiosyncrasy you didn't know about, a shitty browser implementati= on, a spooky server bug=E2=80=A6 anything, really.

Off to testing ;)

Cheers,



2015-12-09 4:31 GMT+01:00 Christophe Battare= l <christophe.battarel@altairis.fr>:
=20 =20 =20
"It should be great to find a way to focus attention of users and theirs integrators also to report bugs and requests just after the release to set a certain "rythm" also."

We are talking about an ERP, not a browser or a music player ! an ERP often needs several months to be put in production, and we dont change version every 6 months !

My 2 cents as an integrator.

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Le 08/12/2015 11:59, Hubert Andriolo a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:

It is just a release calendar to set the steps no ? Versions doesn't=C2=A0 need to have a certain amount of new features... except in commercial softwares maybe...

And the pace is great to focus attention of dev community just before releases to correct issues as Rdoursenaud wants to invite.

It should be great to find a way to focus attention of users and theirs integrators also to report bugs and requests just after the release to set a certain "rythm" also.

I imagine that the sooner and less stable the release is... the later the migration of users will be so it is good for Devs to have time to adapt modules ;)

Users willing to adopt a 3.9 should wait 3.9.1 to get semi solid production environment and 3.9.2 to have a stable one.

Hub

Hubert ANDRIOLO
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Hi everyone,

The free software is all about release early, release often.
No matter how much we wait, there will never be a perfectly ironed out
version.
Much less when some want to push major features just before release.

If there's something the 3.8 release taught us, it is that bugs were
uncovered too late in the release cycle.
So start testing, reporting and fixing bugs now!

There's already 19 issues that needs fixing:
https://github.com/Dolibarr/dolibarr/= milestones/3.7.3
https://github.com/Dolibarr/dolibarr/= milestones/3.8.3
https://github.com/Dolibarr/dolibarr/= milestones/3.9.0

I'll start a marathon tomorrow from noon till dawn (CET timezone), anyone
interested, join me on #dolibarr IRC channel at freenode.
Let's make it fun :)

Cheers,


*Rapha?l Doursenaud*
Directeur technique (CTO)
Expert certifi? en d?ploiement Google Apps
<= https://gpcsolutions.fr/raphael-doursenaud-google-apps-certified-deployment= -specialist>
+33 (0)5 35 53 97 13=C2=A0- +33 (0)6 68 48 20 10

2015-12-07 22:46 GMT+01:00 Ing. V?ctor Ortiz P?rez <victor@accett.com.mx>:

> IMHO:
>
> I agree. I think is too fast, maybe waiting more, the new version could be
> tested enough to decrease the number of bugs of the last release.
>
> I understand that there is a schedule maybe it have to be rescheduled.
>
> 2015-12-07 14:32 GMT-06:00 Olivier Geffroy <jeff@jeffinfo.com>:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> why launch the 3.9 ?
>> we have a lot of problems with 3.8, it's disturbing for users. It will be
>> better to spend the next 6 months in order to correct the 3.8 and show that
>> we care about stability (don't be Microsoft..)
>> my 2 cents
>>
>> 2015-12-07 10:01 GMT+01:00 Florian HENRY <florian.henry@open-co= ncept.pro>
>> :
>>
>>> Laurent,
>>>
>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Can you create 3.8_backpor= t branch ?
>>>
>>> Regard
>>>
>>> Florian Henry+33 6 03 76 48 07florian.henry@open-concept.prohttp://www.open-concept.pro
>>> Twitter : @_Open_Concept_
>>> Google+ : https://www.google.com/+Open= -conceptPro
>>>
>>> Le 06/12/2015 15:09, charles benke.fr a ?crit :
>>>
>>> Hello Laurent
>>>
>>> Please don?t freez the 3.9 till end of year,
>>>
>>> we have planned 3 week of work on accounting modules whose a real
>>> advance on Dolibarr than a better interface
>>>
>>> and I don?t the advancement on native multidevis on
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Charlie (defrance)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *De :* dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3Dbenke.fr@nongnu.org [
>>> mailto:dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3Dbenke.fr@nongnu.org
>>> <dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3Dbenke.fr@nongnu.org>] *De la part de*
>>> Laurent Destailleur (aka Eldy)
>>> *Envoy? :* dimanche 6 d?cembre 2015 14:53
>>> *? :* ML Dolibarr dev <dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org>
>>> <dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org>
>>> *Objet :* [Dolibarr-dev] Dolibarr 3.9 freeze
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As usual, i am a little bit late compared to roadmap for the annoucement
>>> of the freez of version 3.9
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> There was so exiting changes into interface on the road that i would
>>> like to have them finished and stable to start the freeze.
>>>
>>> It's done.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Starting from today, no new features will be added from PR.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I will create the branch 3.9 soon, but please, everybody, let's start to
>>> debug the current develop version ans send fixes. >>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Version 3.9 should have a better compatibility with external modules
>>> that 3.8, so i think you can already check your externale modules are still
>>> working.
>>>
>>> The Changelog provides information on what was necessarly changed and
>>> may create regression for external modules.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Laurent (eldy)
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---------
>>> Google+: https://plus.google.com/= +LaurentDestailleur/
>>> Facebook: https://www.facebook.co= m/Destailleur.Laurent
>>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/eldy10
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Dolibarr-dev mailing listDolibarr-dev@nongnu.orghttps://= lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> Dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org
>>> https://lists.nongnu.or= g/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> *Olivier Geffroy**Consultant Informatique*
>>
>>
>>
>> *Jeffinfo a 15 ans cette ann?e
>> <http://www.jeffinfo.com/m= a-petite-entreprise-15-ans/>-------------------------------------* >>
>> *Jeffinfo SARL**295 rue d'aire **59660 Merville*
>>
>>
>> *= jeff@jeffinfo.com <jeff@jeffi= nfo.com>Gsm : 0608632740 <0608632740>**Skype
>> : darkj3ff*
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Gracias por no enviar cadenas.
> Ing. V?ctor Ortiz P?rez
> AcceTT - Soluciones Computacionales
> M?rtires 28 de Agosto #134 esq. Ruiz Cortines
> Col. Ferrer Guardia Xalapa, Veracruz CP 91020
> Tel. (228) 840 3284
> WA 228 840 3284
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Fr?d?ric FRANCE

Le 06/12/2015 14:52, Laurent Destailleur (aka Eldy) a ?crit :
>
> As usual, i am a little bit late compared to roadmap for the
> annoucement of the freez of version 3.9
>
> There was so exiting changes into interface on the road that i would
> like to have them finished and stable to start the freeze.
> It's done.
>
> Starting from today, no new features will be added from PR.
>
> I will create the branch 3.9 soon, but please, everybody, let's start
> to debug the current develop version ans send fixes.
>
>
> Version 3.9 should have a better compatibility with external modules
> that 3.8, so i think you can already check your externale modules are
> still working.
> The Changelog provides information on what was necessarly changed and
> may create regression for external modules.
>
>
>
>
> Laurent (eldy)
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---------
> Google+: https://plus.google.com/+Laurent= Destailleur/
> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Destai= lleur.Laurent
> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/eldy10
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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--001a1142cf742971c605267abd9c-- From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Dec 10 12:35:39 2015 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1a757z-0003KT-H0 for mharc-dolibarr-dev@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 12:35:39 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42933) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a757v-0003Jc-UB for dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 12:35:37 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a757r-0005AU-5P for dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 12:35:35 -0500 Received: from relay6-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.198]:55278) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a757q-00059f-St for dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 12:35:31 -0500 Received: from mfilter21-d.gandi.net (mfilter21-d.gandi.net [217.70.178.149]) by relay6-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54BE7FB8B3 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 18:35:29 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter21-d.gandi.net Received: from relay6-d.mail.gandi.net ([IPv6:::ffff:217.70.183.198]) by mfilter21-d.gandi.net (mfilter21-d.gandi.net [::ffff:10.0.15.180]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dKhc-uppy9WY for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 18:34:22 +0100 (CET) X-Originating-IP: 37.163.220.17 Received: from [10.46.110.232] (unknown [37.163.220.17]) (Authenticated sender: florian.henry@open-concept.pro) by relay6-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D9D95FB8CB for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 18:34:21 +0100 (CET) User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: <566995B5.8090401@pachyderme.net> References: <566995B5.8090401@pachyderme.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----R3K0NG6BMK4D2CRIZK4RW12Z83DO4Q" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Florian HENRY Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 18:34:01 +0100 To: "dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org" Message-ID: <3F949089-A663-43B3-9902-AD1A783A871C@open-concept.pro> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 217.70.183.198 Subject: [Dolibarr-dev] Fwd: Re: [April - Atelier] Projet de loi de finances 2016 : logiciels non-frauduleux. Coordination X-BeenThere: dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding List-Id: Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 17:35:37 -0000 ------R3K0NG6BMK4D2CRIZK4RW12Z83DO4Q Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Florian Henry (+33) 6 03 76 48 07 florian.henry@open-concept.pro http://www.open-concept.pro Twitter: @_Open_Concept_ Google +: https://plus.google.com/+Open-conceptPro Envoyé à partir de mon smartphone Veuillez excuser ma brièveté. -------- Message d'origine -------- De : Philippe Pary Envoyé : 10 décembre 2015 16:09:41 GMT+01:00 À : Baptiste Carvello , Thomas HOCEDEZ Cc : comptabilite , reseau@listes.libre-entreprise.org, florian.henry@open-concept.pro, Philippe Scoffoni | Open-DSI Objet : Re: [April - Atelier] Projet de loi de finances 2016 : logiciels non-frauduleux. Coordination Salut à tous, Grâce à Thomas Hocedez, ami libriste au bras long, on a eu un conseiller de Christian Eckert au téléphone. Ça a duré 20 minutes, en deux parties. Le résumé de la première partie est simple. Nous avons eu confirmation que ma lecture du projet, pessimiste, est exacte. Ils veulent interdire les logiciels libres de comptabilité, de facturation et d’encaissement. Ou ad minima imposer des boîtes noires au sein de ces logiciels. La seconde partie a été une négociation de « marchand de tapis » pour faire corriger ça. Je vous épargne les détails. Sur ma proposition, le gouvernement réfléchit à la possibilité soit d’avoir une boîte noire, soit de devoir communiquer avec un tiers de confiance qui enregistrerait les données. Rien n’est acquis, ils ne font que prendre en compte la proposition et revenir vers nous (sans avoir précisé quand) Nous avons eu le droit à un lénifiant « mais la loi entrera en vigueur en 2018, on aura le temps de corriger » même si un inquiétant « ça entrera peut-être en vigueur en 2017 » lui a échappé. Le vote de la loi est imminent, c’est la semaine prochaine. À ce ce titre, notre interlocuteur a rejeté les amendements proposés par Baptiste Carvello. J’ai évidemment bataillé contre les boîtes noires. Le conseiller a évoqué que l’AFNOR leur garantissait que c’était possible. Merci l’AFNOR … J’ai utilisé, c’est vil je le concède, Prestashop comme argument pour dire que ça ne concerne pas que 3 pelés et un tondu cette affaire. En clair, c’est la merde. Philippe Le 26/11/2015 15:56, Philippe Pary a écrit : > J’ai appelé aujourd’hui. Rien n’a bougé. > Pffff :/ > > Philippe > > Le 22/11/2015 13:20, Philippe Pary a écrit : >> Le 22/11/2015 10:16, Baptiste Carvello a écrit : >>> Le 20/11/2015 13:08, Philippe Pary a écrit : >>>> Salut, >>>> >>>> J’ai été appelé hier par le cabinet de M Roman. M Eckert a assuré que >>>> nos craintes étaient infondées, M Roman lui a demandé un document écrit >>>> l’assurant. >>>> >>>> Nous attendons ce document. >>>> >>>> Philippe >>> >>> Mouais, j'espère que ça sera publié au JO comme "réponse ministérielle", >>> il n'y a que ça qui soit opposable à l'administration. Et pour tout >>> dire, ça ne me rassure pas vraiment: la loi donne un pouvoir >>> disproportionné à l'administration, et après, on promet de ne pas en >>> abuser... >> >> On est d’accord sur ce dernier point … Mais au pire, moi je continue mon >> boulot et j’aurais la gloire d’avoir un procès emblématique … >> >> Philippe >> ------R3K0NG6BMK4D2CRIZK4RW12Z83DO4Q Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Florian Henry
(+33) 6 03 76 48 07
florian.henry@open-concept.pro
http://www.open-concept.pro
Twitter: @_Open_Concept_
Google +: https://plus.google.com/+Open-conceptPro

Envoyé à partir de mon smartphone
Veuillez excuser ma brièveté.


De : Philippe Pary <philippe@pachyderme.net>
Envoyé : 10 décembre 2015 16:09:41 GMT+01:00
À : Baptiste Carvello <bcarvello@april.org>, Thomas HOCEDEZ <thomas.hocedez@free.fr>
Cc : comptabilite <comptabilite@april.org>, reseau@listes.libre-entreprise.org, florian.henry@open-concept.pro, Philippe Scoffoni | Open-DSI <p.scoffoni@open-dsi.fr>
Objet : Re: [April - Atelier] Projet de loi de finances 2016 : logiciels non-frauduleux. Coordination

Salut à tous,

Grâce à Thomas Hocedez, ami libriste au bras long, on a eu un conseiller
de Christian Eckert au téléphone.
Ça a duré 20 minutes, en deux parties.

Le résumé de la première partie est simple. Nous avons eu confirmation
que ma lecture du projet, pessimiste, est exacte.

Ils veulent interdire les logiciels libres de comptabilité, de
facturation et d’encaissement.

Ou ad minima imposer des boîtes noires au sein de ces logiciels.

La seconde partie a été une négociation de « marchand de tapis » pour
faire corriger ça. Je vous épargne les détails.

Sur ma proposition, le gouvernement réfléchit à la possibilité soit
d’avoir une boîte noire, soit de devoir communiquer avec un tiers de
confiance qui enregistrerait les données.

Rien n’est acquis, ils ne font que prendre en compte la proposition et
revenir vers nous (sans avoir précisé quand)

Nous avons eu le droit à un lénifiant « mais la loi entrera en vigueur
en 2018, on aura le temps de corriger » même si un inquiétant « ça
entrera peut-être en vigueur en 2017 » lui a échappé.

Le vote de la loi est imminent, c’est la semaine prochaine. À ce ce
titre, notre interlocuteur a rejeté les amendements proposés par
Baptiste Carvello.

J’ai évidemment bataillé contre les boîtes noires. Le conseiller a
évoqué que l’AFNOR leur garantissait que c’était possible. Merci l’AFNOR …

J’ai utilisé, c’est vil je le concède, Prestashop comme argument pour
dire que ça ne concerne pas que 3 pelés et un tondu cette affaire.

En clair, c’est la merde.
Philippe



Le 26/11/2015 15:56, Philippe Pary a écrit :
J’ai appelé aujourd’hui. Rien n’a bougé.
Pffff :/

Philippe

Le 22/11/2015 13:20, Philippe Pary a écrit :
Le 22/11/2015 10:16, Baptiste Carvello a écrit :
Le 20/11/2015 13:08, Philippe Pary a écrit :
Salut,

J’ai été appelé hier par le cabinet de M Roman. M Eckert a assuré que
nos craintes étaient infondées, M Roman lui a demandé un document écrit
l’assurant.

Nous attendons ce document.

Philippe

Mouais, j'espère que ça sera publié au JO comme "réponse ministérielle",
il n'y a que ça qui soit opposable à l'administration. Et pour tout
dire, ça ne me rassure pas vraiment: la loi donne un pouvoir
disproportionné à l'administration, et après, on promet de ne pas en
abuser...

On est d’accord sur ce dernier point … Mais au pire, moi je continue mon
boulot et j’aurais la gloire d’avoir un procès emblématique …

Philippe

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Coordination X-BeenThere: dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding List-Id: Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 20:44:46 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040701060509060809020102 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment vous voyez la chose pour Dolibarr sur le sol fran=E7ais, en admettant que la loi passe, et pour vos entreprises int=E9grant Dolibarr = ? Je pense =E0 Laurent, mais aussi Florien ou Rapha=EBl ? Un entrepreneur qui utilise 'encore' Excel se trouve de facto dans l'ill=E9galit=E9 ? C'est d=E9primant en tous cas. CF Le 10/12/2015 18:34, Florian HENRY a =E9crit : > > Florian Henry > (+33) 6 03 76 48 07 > florian.henry@open-concept.pro > http://www.open-concept.pro > Twitter: @_Open_Concept_ > Google +: https://plus.google.com/+Open-conceptPro > > Envoy=E9 =E0 partir de mon smartphone > Veuillez excuser ma bri=E8vet=E9. > > -----------------------------------------------------------------------= - > *De :* Philippe Pary > *Envoy=E9 :* 10 d=E9cembre 2015 16:09:41 GMT+01:00 > *=C0 :* Baptiste Carvello , Thomas HOCEDEZ > > *Cc :* comptabilite , > reseau@listes.libre-entreprise.org, florian.henry@open-concept.pro, > Philippe Scoffoni | Open-DSI > *Objet :* Re: [April - Atelier] Projet de loi de finances 2016 : > logiciels non-frauduleux. Coordination > > Salut =E0 tous, > > Gr=E2ce =E0 Thomas Hocedez, ami libriste au bras long, on a eu un conse= iller=20 > de Christian Eckert au t=E9l=E9phone. > =C7a a dur=E9 20 minutes, en deux parties. > > Le r=E9sum=E9 de la premi=E8re partie est simple. Nous avons eu confirm= ation=20 > que ma lecture du projet, pessimiste, est exacte. > > Ils veulent interdire les logiciels libres de comptabilit=E9, de=20 > facturation et d=92encaissement. > > Ou ad minima imposer des bo=EEtes noires au sein de ces logiciels. > > La seconde partie a =E9t=E9 une n=E9gociation de =AB marchand de tapis = =BB pour=20 > faire corriger =E7a. Je vous =E9pargne les d=E9tails. > > Sur ma proposition, le gouvernement r=E9fl=E9chit =E0 la possibilit=E9 = soit=20 > d=92avoir une bo=EEte noire, soit de devoir communiquer avec un tiers d= e=20 > confiance qui enregistrerait les donn=E9es. > > Rien n=92est acquis, ils ne font que prendre en compte la proposition e= t=20 > reveni > r vers > nous (sans avoir pr=E9cis=E9 quand) > > Nous avons eu le droit =E0 un l=E9nifiant =AB mais la loi entrera en vi= gueur=20 > en 2018, on aura le temps de corriger =BB m=EAme si un inqui=E9tant =AB= =E7a=20 > entrera peut-=EAtre en vigueur en 2017 =BB lui a =E9chapp=E9. > > Le vote de la loi est imminent, c=92est la semaine prochaine. =C0 ce ce= =20 > titre, notre interlocuteur a rejet=E9 les amendements propos=E9s par=20 > Baptiste Carvello. > > J=92ai =E9videmment bataill=E9 contre les bo=EEtes noires. Le conseille= r a=20 > =E9voqu=E9 que l=92AFNOR leur garantissait que c=92=E9tait possible. Me= rci l=92AFNOR =85 > > J=92ai utilis=E9, c=92est vil je le conc=E8de, Prestashop comme argumen= t pour=20 > dire que =E7a ne concerne pas que 3 pel=E9s et un tondu cette affaire. > > En clair, c=92est la merde. > Philippe > > > > Le 26/11/2015 15:56, Philippe Pary a =E9crit : > > J=92ai appel=E9 aujourd=92hui. Rien n=92a boug=E9. Pffff :/ Philipp= e Le > 22/11/2015 13:20, Philippe Pary a =E9crit : > > Le 22/11/2015 10:16, Baptiste Carvello a =E9crit : > > Le 20/11/2015 13:08, Philippe Pary a =E9crit : > > Salut, J=92ai =E9t=E9 appel=E9 hier par le cabinet de M= Roman. > M Eckert a assur=E9 que nos craintes =E9taient infond=E9= es, > M Roman lui a demand=E9 un document =E9crit l=92assuran= t. > Nous attendons ce document. Philippe=20 > > Mouais, j'esp=E8re que =E7a sera publi=E9 au JO comme "r=E9= ponse > minist=E9rielle", il n'y a que =E7a qui soit opposable =E0 > l'administration. Et pour tout dire, =E7a ne me rassure pas > vraiment: la loi donne un pouvoir disproportionn=E9 =E0 > l'administration, et apr=E8s, on promet de ne pas en abuser= ...=20 > > On est d=92accord sur ce dernier point =85 Mais au pire, moi je > continue mon boulot et j=92aurais la gloire d=92avoir un proc=E8= s > embl=E9matique =85 Philippe > > > > _______________________________________________ > Dolibarr-dev mailing list > Dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org > https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev --------------040701060509060809020102 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Comment vous voyez la chose pour Dolibarr sur le sol fran=E7ais, en admettant que la loi passe, et pour vos entreprises int=E9grant Dolibarr ? Je pense =E0 Laurent, m= ais aussi Florien ou Rapha=EBl ?

Un entrepreneur qui utilise 'encore' Excel se trouve de facto dans l'ill=E9galit=E9 ?

C'est d=E9primant en tous cas.

CF

Le 10/12/2015 18:34, Florian HENRY a =E9crit=A0:

Florian Henry
(+33) 6 03 76 48 07
florian.henry@open-concept.pro
ht= tp://www.open-concept.pro
Twitter: @_Open_Concept_
Google +: https://plus.go= ogle.com/+Open-conceptPro

Envoy=E9 =E0 partir de mon smartphone
Veuillez excuser ma bri=E8vet=E9.


De=A0: Philippe Pary <philippe@pachyderme.net>=
Envoy=E9=A0: 10 d=E9cembre 2015 16:09:41 GMT+01:00
=C0=A0: Baptiste Carvello <bcarvello@april.org>, T= homas HOCEDEZ <thomas.hocedez@free.fr>
Cc=A0: comptabilite <comptabilite@april.org>, reseau@listes.libre-entreprise.org, florian.henry@open-concept.pro, Philippe Scoffoni= | Open-DSI <p.scoffoni@open-dsi.fr>
Objet=A0: Re: [April - Atelier] Projet de loi de finances 2016 : logiciels non-frauduleux. Coordination

Salut =E0 tous,

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facturation et d=92encaissement.

Ou ad minima imposer des bo=EEtes noires au sein de ces logiciels.

La seconde partie a =E9t=E9 une n=E9gociation de =AB marchand de tapis =BB=
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faire corriger =E7a. Je vous =E9pargne les d=E9tails.

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it=20
d=92avoir une bo=EEte noire, soit de devoir communiquer avec un tiers de=20
confiance qui enregistrerait les donn=E9es.

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reveni
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nous (sans avoir pr=E9cis=E9 quand)

Nous avons eu le droit =E0 un l=E9nifiant =AB mais la loi entrera en vigu=
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en 2018, on aura le temps de corriger =BB m=EAme si un inqui=E9tant =AB =E7=
a=20
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Le vote de la loi est imminent, c=92est la semaine prochaine. =C0 ce ce=20
titre, notre interlocuteur a rejet=E9 les amendements propos=E9s par=20
Baptiste Carvello.

J=92ai =E9videmment bataill=E9 contre les bo=EEtes noires. Le conseiller =
a=20
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dire que =E7a ne concerne pas que 3 pel=E9s et un tondu cette affaire.

En clair, c=92est la merde.
Philippe



Le 26/11/2015 15:56, Philippe Pary a =E9crit :
J=92ai appel=E9 aujourd=92hui. Rien n=92a b= oug=E9. Pffff :/ Philippe Le 22/11/2015 13:20, Philippe Pary a =E9crit :
Le 22/11/2015 10:16, Ba= ptiste Carvello a =E9crit :
Le 20/11/2015 13:08, Ph= ilippe Pary a =E9crit :
Salut, J=92ai =E9t=E9 appel=E9 hier par le cabinet de M Roman. M Eckert a assur= =E9 que nos craintes =E9taient infond=E9es, M Roman lui a demand=E9 un document = =E9crit l=92assurant. Nous attendons ce document. Philippe
Mouais, j'esp=E8re que =E7a sera publi=E9 au JO comme "r=E9ponse minist=E9rielle", il n'y a que =E7a qui soit opposable =E0 l'administration. Et pour tout dire, =E7a ne me rassure pas vraiment: la loi donne un pouvoir disproportionn=E9 =E0 l'administration, et apr=E8s, on promet de ne pas = en abuser...
On est d=92accord sur ce dernier point =85 Mais au pire, moi je continue= mon boulot et j=92aurais la gloire d=92avoir un proc=E8s embl=E9matique =85 Philippe


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--------------040701060509060809020102-- From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Dec 10 15:49:21 2015 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1a789R-0005wX-06 for mharc-dolibarr-dev@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 15:49:21 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45691) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a789K-0005wA-Ug for dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 15:49:19 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a789F-0004a7-Oq for dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 15:49:14 -0500 Received: from 18.mo3.mail-out.ovh.net ([87.98.172.162]:56215) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a789F-0004Zw-F6 for dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 15:49:09 -0500 Received: from mail630.ha.ovh.net (b6.ovh.net [213.186.33.56]) by mo3.mail-out.ovh.net (Postfix) with SMTP id EB65AFFCBB0 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2015 21:49:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (HELO queueout) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Dec 2015 22:49:07 +0200 Received: from mon69-3-82-235-38-14.fbx.proxad.net (HELO charlesPort) (charles.fr@benke.fr@82.235.38.14) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 10 Dec 2015 22:49:05 +0200 From: "Charles Benke" To: "'Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding'" References: <566995B5.8090401@pachyderme.net> <3F949089-A663-43B3-9902-AD1A783A871C@open-concept.pro> <5669E42D.6030401@studelec-sa.com> In-Reply-To: <5669E42D.6030401@studelec-sa.com> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 21:49:07 +0100 Message-ID: <000901d1338c$3708d9e0$a51a8da0$@benke.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01D13394.98D24AF0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQIB0PvlGIUepHNPPRxpNIfliTWoxgGezTllAWT5yjWeS1dzIA== Content-Language: fr X-Ovh-Tracer-Id: 16519203435147899879 X-Ovh-Remote: 82.235.38.14 (mon69-3-82-235-38-14.fbx.proxad.net) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-OVH-SPAMSTATE: OK X-OVH-SPAMSCORE: -100 X-OVH-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrfeekiedrudejucetufdoteggodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfqggfjnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmd X-VR-SPAMSTATE: OK X-VR-SPAMSCORE: -100 X-VR-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrfeekiedrudejgddufeelucetufdoteggodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfqggfjnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmd X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x (no timestamps) [generic] X-Received-From: 87.98.172.162 Subject: Re: [Dolibarr-dev] Fwd: Re: [April - Atelier] Projet de loi de finances 2016 : logiciels non-frauduleux. Coordination X-BeenThere: dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding List-Id: Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 20:49:20 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01D13394.98D24AF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Personnellement je ne vois m=EAme pas comment une telle loi peu passer, = c=92est un peu comme obliger les poissons =E0 respirer. Ce n=92est m=EAme pas li=E9 =E0 Dolibarr, pour connaitre d=92autres ERP = (gestimum, divalto) ils seront dans la m=EAme probl=E9matique =E0 savoir rendre non modifiable les donn=E9es comptables Sans parler du reste (boutique internet, =85)=20 La France peut-elle se passer de l=92open-source ? Pouvons-nous continuer de travailler en France ? =20 Bien cordialement, Charlie Benke =20 De : dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3Dbenke.fr@nongnu.org [mailto:dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3Dbenke.fr@nongnu.org] De la = part de CF Envoy=E9 : jeudi 10 d=E9cembre 2015 21:44 =C0 : dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org Objet : Re: [Dolibarr-dev] Fwd: Re: [April - Atelier] Projet de loi de finances 2016 : logiciels non-frauduleux. Coordination =20 Comment vous voyez la chose pour Dolibarr sur le sol fran=E7ais, en = admettant que la loi passe, et pour vos entreprises int=E9grant Dolibarr ? Je = pense =E0 Laurent, mais aussi Florien ou Rapha=EBl ?=20 Un entrepreneur qui utilise 'encore' Excel se trouve de facto dans l'ill=E9galit=E9 ? C'est d=E9primant en tous cas. CF Le 10/12/2015 18:34, Florian HENRY a =E9crit : Florian Henry (+33) 6 03 76 48 07 florian.henry@open-concept.pro =20 http://www.open-concept.pro Twitter: @_Open_Concept_ Google +: https://plus.google.com/+Open-conceptPro=20 Envoy=E9 =E0 partir de mon smartphone Veuillez excuser ma bri=E8vet=E9. _____ =20 De : Philippe Pary Envoy=E9 : 10 d=E9cembre 2015 16:09:41 GMT+01:00 =C0 : Baptiste Carvello = , Thomas HOCEDEZ Cc : comptabilite = , reseau@listes.libre-entreprise.org , = florian.henry@open-concept.pro , Philippe Scoffoni | Open-DSI Objet : Re: [April - Atelier] Projet de loi de finances 2016 : logiciels non-frauduleux. Coordination =20 Salut =E0 tous, =20 Gr=E2ce =E0 Thomas Hocedez, ami libriste au bras long, on a eu un = conseiller=20 de Christian Eckert au t=E9l=E9phone. =C7a a dur=E9 20 minutes, en deux parties. =20 Le r=E9sum=E9 de la premi=E8re partie est simple. Nous avons eu = confirmation=20 que ma lecture du projet, pessimiste, est exacte. =20 Ils veulent interdire les logiciels libres de comptabilit=E9, de=20 facturation et d=92encaissement. =20 Ou ad minima imposer des bo=EEtes noires au sein de ces logiciels. =20 La seconde partie a =E9t=E9 une n=E9gociation de =AB marchand de tapis = =BB pour=20 faire corriger =E7a. Je vous =E9pargne les d=E9tails. =20 Sur ma proposition, le gouvernement r=E9fl=E9chit =E0 la possibilit=E9 = soit=20 d=92avoir une bo=EEte noire, soit de devoir communiquer avec un tiers de = confiance qui enregistrerait les donn=E9es. =20 Rien n=92est acquis, ils ne font que prendre en compte la proposition et = reveni r vers nous (sans avoir pr=E9cis=E9 quand) =20 Nous avons eu le droit =E0 un l=E9nifiant =AB mais la loi entrera en = vigueur=20 en 2018, on aura le temps de corriger =BB m=EAme si un inqui=E9tant =AB = =E7a=20 entrera peut-=EAtre en vigueur en 2017 =BB lui a =E9chapp=E9. =20 Le vote de la loi est imminent, c=92est la semaine prochaine. =C0 ce ce=20 titre, notre interlocuteur a rejet=E9 les amendements propos=E9s par=20 Baptiste Carvello. =20 J=92ai =E9videmment bataill=E9 contre les bo=EEtes noires. Le conseiller = a=20 =E9voqu=E9 que l=92AFNOR leur garantissait que c=92=E9tait possible. = Merci l=92AFNOR =85 =20 J=92ai utilis=E9, c=92est vil je le conc=E8de, Prestashop comme argument = pour=20 dire que =E7a ne concerne pas que 3 pel=E9s et un tondu cette affaire. =20 En clair, c=92est la merde. Philippe =20 =20 =20 Le 26/11/2015 15:56, Philippe Pary a =E9crit : J=92ai appel=E9 aujourd=92hui. Rien n=92a boug=E9. Pffff :/ =20 Philippe =20 Le 22/11/2015 13:20, Philippe Pary a =E9crit : Le 22/11/2015 10:16, Baptiste Carvello a =E9crit : Le 20/11/2015 13:08, Philippe Pary a =E9crit : Salut, =20 J=92ai =E9t=E9 appel=E9 hier par le cabinet de M Roman. M Eckert a = assur=E9 que nos craintes =E9taient infond=E9es, M Roman lui a demand=E9 un document = =E9crit l=92assurant. =20 Nous attendons ce document. =20 Philippe =20 Mouais, j'esp=E8re que =E7a sera publi=E9 au JO comme "r=E9ponse minist=E9rielle", il n'y a que =E7a qui soit opposable =E0 l'administration. Et pour tout dire, =E7a ne me rassure pas vraiment: la loi donne un pouvoir disproportionn=E9 =E0 l'administration, et apr=E8s, on promet de ne pas = en abuser... =20 On est d=92accord sur ce dernier point =85 Mais au pire, moi je = continue mon boulot et j=92aurais la gloire d=92avoir un proc=E8s embl=E9matique =85 =20 Philippe =20 _______________________________________________ Dolibarr-dev mailing list Dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org =20 https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev =20 ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01D13394.98D24AF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Personnellement je ne vois m=EAme pas comment une telle loi peu passer, = c’est un peu comme obliger les poissons =E0 = respirer.

Ce n’est m=EAme pas li=E9 =E0 Dolibarr, pour connaitre = d’autres ERP (gestimum, divalto) ils seront dans la m=EAme = probl=E9matique =E0 savoir rendre non modifiable les donn=E9es = comptables

Sans parler du reste (boutique internet, …) =

La France peut-elle se passer de = l’open-source ?

Pouvons-nous continuer de travailler en = France ?

 

Bien cordialement,

Charlie Benke

 

De : dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3Dbenke.fr@nongnu.org = [mailto:dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3Dbenke.fr@nongnu.org] De la = part de CF
Envoy=E9 : jeudi 10 d=E9cembre 2015 = 21:44
=C0 : = dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org
Objet : Re: [Dolibarr-dev] Fwd: = Re: [April - Atelier] Projet de loi de finances 2016 : logiciels = non-frauduleux. Coordination

 

Comment = vous voyez la chose pour Dolibarr sur le sol fran=E7ais, en admettant = que la loi passe, et pour vos entreprises int=E9grant Dolibarr ? Je = pense =E0 Laurent, mais aussi Florien ou Rapha=EBl ?

Un = entrepreneur qui utilise 'encore' Excel se trouve de facto dans = l'ill=E9galit=E9 ?

C'est d=E9primant en tous = cas.

CF

Le 10/12/2015 18:34, Florian HENRY a = =E9crit :


Florian Henry
(+33) 6 03 76 48 = 07
florian.henry@open-concept= .pro
http://www.open-concept.pro
T= witter: @_Open_Concept_
Google +: https://plus.google.com= /+Open-conceptPro

Envoy=E9 =E0 partir de mon = smartphone
Veuillez excuser ma bri=E8vet=E9.


De : = Philippe Pary <philippe@pachyderme.net>
Envoy=E9 : 10 d=E9cembre 2015 16:09:41 = GMT+01:00
=C0 : Baptiste Carvello
<bcarvello@april.org>, = Thomas HOCEDEZ <thomas.hocedez@free.fr>=
Cc : comptabilite <comptabilite@april.org>= , reseau@listes.libre-en= treprise.org, florian.henry@open-concept= .pro, Philippe Scoffoni | Open-DSI <p.scoffoni@open-dsi.fr>=
Objet : Re: [April - Atelier] Projet de loi de finances = 2016 : logiciels non-frauduleux. = Coordination

 

Salut =E0 =
tous,
 
Gr=E2ce =E0 =
Thomas Hocedez, ami libriste au bras long, on a eu un conseiller =
de Christian Eckert au =
t=E9l=E9phone.
=C7a a dur=E9 20 minutes, en deux =
parties.
 
Le r=E9sum=E9 =
de la premi=E8re partie est simple. Nous avons eu confirmation =
que ma lecture du projet, pessimiste, est =
exacte.
 
Ils veulent =
interdire les logiciels libres de comptabilit=E9, de =
facturation et =
d’encaissement.
 
Ou=
 ad minima imposer des bo=EEtes noires au sein de ces =
logiciels.
 
La seconde =
partie a =E9t=E9 une n=E9gociation de =AB marchand de tapis =BB pour =
faire corriger =E7a. Je vous =E9pargne les =
d=E9tails.
 
Sur ma =
proposition, le gouvernement r=E9fl=E9chit =E0 la possibilit=E9 soit =
d’avoir une bo=EEte noire, soit de devoir =
communiquer avec un tiers de 
confiance qui =
enregistrerait les =
donn=E9es.
 
Rien =
n’est acquis, ils ne font que prendre en compte la proposition et =
reveni
 r =
vers
nous (sans avoir pr=E9cis=E9 =
quand)
 
Nous avons eu le =
droit =E0 un l=E9nifiant =AB mais la loi entrera en vigueur =
en 2018, on aura le temps de corriger =BB m=EAme =
si un inqui=E9tant =AB =E7a 
entrera peut-=EAtre en =
vigueur en 2017 =BB lui a =
=E9chapp=E9.
 
Le vote de =
la loi est imminent, c’est la semaine prochaine. =C0 ce ce =
titre, notre interlocuteur a rejet=E9 les =
amendements propos=E9s par 
Baptiste =
Carvello.
 
J’ai =
=E9videmment bataill=E9 contre les bo=EEtes noires. Le conseiller a =
=E9voqu=E9 que l’AFNOR leur garantissait que =
c’=E9tait possible. Merci l’AFNOR =
…
 
J’ai =
utilis=E9, c’est vil je le conc=E8de, Prestashop comme argument =
pour 
dire que =E7a ne concerne pas que 3 pel=E9s =
et un tondu cette =
affaire.
 
En clair, =
c’est la =
merde.
Philippe
 
 
 
Le =
26/11/2015 15:56, Philippe Pary a =E9crit :
 J’ai appel=E9 =
aujourd’hui. Rien n’a boug=E9.
 Pffff =
:/
 
 =
Philippe
 
 Le 22/11/2015 =
13:20, Philippe Pary a =E9crit :
 Le =
22/11/2015 10:16, Baptiste Carvello a =E9crit =
:
 Le =
20/11/2015 13:08, Philippe Pary a =E9crit :
 =
Salut,
 
 J’ai =
=E9t=E9 appel=E9 hier par le cabinet de M Roman. M Eckert a assur=E9 =
que
 nos craintes =E9taient infond=E9es, M Roman =
lui a demand=E9 un document =E9crit
 =
l’assurant.
 
 Nous =
attendons ce document.
 
 =
Philippe
 
 =
Mouais, j'esp=E8re que =E7a sera publi=E9 au JO comme =
"r=E9ponse
minist=E9rielle",
 il n'y a que =E7a qui soit opposable =E0 l'administration. Et =
pour tout
 dire, =E7a ne me rassure pas vraiment: =
la loi donne un pouvoir
 disproportionn=E9 =E0 =
l'administration, et apr=E8s, on promet de ne pas =
en
 =
abuser...
 
 =
On est d’accord sur ce dernier point … Mais au pire, moi je =
continue mon
 boulot et j’aurais la gloire =
d’avoir un proc=E8s embl=E9matique =
…
 
 =
Philippe
 




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Coordination X-BeenThere: dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding List-Id: Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 20:58:56 -0000 --001a1143637833f9d30526917959 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry french speaking, but don't worry we spoke about a F*** french law Une partie de ma r=C3=A9ponse a phillippe tout a l'heure quand j'ai eu l'information Quid de toutes les soci=C3=A9t=C3=A9s qui font leurs factures sur word ou e= xcel ? Quid des soci=C3=A9t=C3=A9s qui ont un logiciel en SAS h=C3=A9berg=C3=A9 a = l'=C3=A9tranger comme sales force (est ce que le logiciel aura l'obligation d'obtenir cette norme pour vendre sur le march=C3=A9 fran=C3=A7ais) Quid des solutions SAS de facturation (certaines sont des startups prometteuses, cette norme a obtenir va =C3=AAtre un frein a leur d=C3=A9vel= oppement) Quid des solutions internes de facturation (prodware fait sur mesure que les GMS utilisent par exemple) Car si on r=C3=A9sume cette loi, le but est de graver dans le marbre toutes transactions par un logiciel qui a norme fran=C3=A7aise sp=C3=A9cifique et pour finir le sujet qui nous int=C3=A9resse Quid du march=C3=A9 de l'open source (4 milliard d'euro ...) En outre je pense que leurs propositions sont un peu trop intrusives et il faudrait faire un point sur les lois europ=C3=A9enne, si =C3=A7a se trouve = =C3=A7a fera comme la CSG pour les r=C3=A9sidents non fran=C3=A7ais et donc en case law = cela sera inapplicable Le 10 d=C3=A9cembre 2015 =C3=A0 21:49, Charles Benke = a =C3=A9crit : > Personnellement je ne vois m=C3=AAme pas comment une telle loi peu passer= , > c=E2=80=99est un peu comme obliger les poissons =C3=A0 respirer. > > Ce n=E2=80=99est m=C3=AAme pas li=C3=A9 =C3=A0 Dolibarr, pour connaitre d= =E2=80=99autres ERP (gestimum, > divalto) ils seront dans la m=C3=AAme probl=C3=A9matique =C3=A0 savoir re= ndre non > modifiable les donn=C3=A9es comptables > > Sans parler du reste (boutique internet, =E2=80=A6) > > La France peut-elle se passer de l=E2=80=99open-source ? > > Pouvons-nous continuer de travailler en France ? > > > > Bien cordialement, > > Charlie Benke > > > > *De :* dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3Dbenke.fr@nongnu.org [mailto: > dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3Dbenke.fr@nongnu.org] *De la part de* CF > *Envoy=C3=A9 :* jeudi 10 d=C3=A9cembre 2015 21:44 > *=C3=80 :* dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org > *Objet :* Re: [Dolibarr-dev] Fwd: Re: [April - Atelier] Projet de loi de > finances 2016 : logiciels non-frauduleux. Coordination > > > > Comment vous voyez la chose pour Dolibarr sur le sol fran=C3=A7ais, en > admettant que la loi passe, et pour vos entreprises int=C3=A9grant Doliba= rr ? Je > pense =C3=A0 Laurent, mais aussi Florien ou Rapha=C3=ABl ? > > Un entrepreneur qui utilise 'encore' Excel se trouve de facto dans > l'ill=C3=A9galit=C3=A9 ? > > C'est d=C3=A9primant en tous cas. > > CF > > Le 10/12/2015 18:34, Florian HENRY a =C3=A9crit : > > > Florian Henry > (+33) 6 03 76 48 07 > florian.henry@open-concept.pro > http://www.open-concept.pro > Twitter: @_Open_Concept_ > Google +: https://plus.google.com/+Open-conceptPro > > Envoy=C3=A9 =C3=A0 partir de mon smartphone > Veuillez excuser ma bri=C3=A8vet=C3=A9. > ------------------------------ > > *De :* Philippe Pary > *Envoy=C3=A9 :* 10 d=C3=A9cembre 2015 16:09:41 GMT+01:00 > *=C3=80 :* Baptiste Carvello , > Thomas HOCEDEZ > *Cc :* comptabilite , > reseau@listes.libre-entreprise.org, florian.henry@open-concept.pro, > Philippe Scoffoni | Open-DSI > > *Objet :* Re: [April - Atelier] Projet de loi de finances 2016 : > logiciels non-frauduleux. Coordination > > > > Salut =C3=A0 tous, > > > > Gr=C3=A2ce =C3=A0 Thomas Hocedez, ami libriste au bras long, on a eu un c= onseiller > > de Christian Eckert au t=C3=A9l=C3=A9phone. > > =C3=87a a dur=C3=A9 20 minutes, en deux parties. > > > > Le r=C3=A9sum=C3=A9 de la premi=C3=A8re partie est simple. Nous avons eu = confirmation > > que ma lecture du projet, pessimiste, est exacte. > > > > Ils veulent interdire les logiciels libres de comptabilit=C3=A9, de > > facturation et d=E2=80=99encaissement. > > > > Ou ad minima imposer des bo=C3=AEtes noires au sein de ces logiciels. > > > > La seconde partie a =C3=A9t=C3=A9 une n=C3=A9gociation de =C2=AB marchand= de tapis =C2=BB pour > > faire corriger =C3=A7a. Je vous =C3=A9pargne les d=C3=A9tails. > > > > Sur ma proposition, le gouvernement r=C3=A9fl=C3=A9chit =C3=A0 la possibi= lit=C3=A9 soit > > d=E2=80=99avoir une bo=C3=AEte noire, soit de devoir communiquer avec un = tiers de > > confiance qui enregistrerait les donn=C3=A9es. > > > > Rien n=E2=80=99est acquis, ils ne font que prendre en compte la propositi= on et > > reveni > > r vers > > nous (sans avoir pr=C3=A9cis=C3=A9 quand) > > > > Nous avons eu le droit =C3=A0 un l=C3=A9nifiant =C2=AB mais la loi entrer= a en vigueur > > en 2018, on aura le temps de corriger =C2=BB m=C3=AAme si un inqui=C3=A9t= ant =C2=AB =C3=A7a > > entrera peut-=C3=AAtre en vigueur en 2017 =C2=BB lui a =C3=A9chapp=C3=A9. > > > > Le vote de la loi est imminent, c=E2=80=99est la semaine prochaine. =C3= =80 ce ce > > titre, notre interlocuteur a rejet=C3=A9 les amendements propos=C3=A9s pa= r > > Baptiste Carvello. > > > > J=E2=80=99ai =C3=A9videmment bataill=C3=A9 contre les bo=C3=AEtes noires.= Le conseiller a > > =C3=A9voqu=C3=A9 que l=E2=80=99AFNOR leur garantissait que c=E2=80=99=C3= =A9tait possible. Merci l=E2=80=99AFNOR =E2=80=A6 > > > > J=E2=80=99ai utilis=C3=A9, c=E2=80=99est vil je le conc=C3=A8de, Prestash= op comme argument pour > > dire que =C3=A7a ne concerne pas que 3 pel=C3=A9s et un tondu cette affai= re. > > > > En clair, c=E2=80=99est la merde. > > Philippe > > > > > > > > Le 26/11/2015 15:56, Philippe Pary a =C3=A9crit : > > J=E2=80=99ai appel=C3=A9 aujourd=E2=80=99hui. Rien n=E2=80=99a boug=C3= =A9. > > Pffff :/ > > > > Philippe > > > > Le 22/11/2015 13:20, Philippe Pary a =C3=A9crit : > > Le 22/11/2015 10:16, Baptiste Carvello a =C3=A9crit : > > Le 20/11/2015 13:08, Philippe Pary a =C3=A9crit : > > Salut, > > > > J=E2=80=99ai =C3=A9t=C3=A9 appel=C3=A9 hier par le cabinet de M Roman. M= Eckert a assur=C3=A9 que > > nos craintes =C3=A9taient infond=C3=A9es, M Roman lui a demand=C3=A9 un = document =C3=A9crit > > l=E2=80=99assurant. > > > > Nous attendons ce document. > > > > Philippe > > > > Mouais, j'esp=C3=A8re que =C3=A7a sera publi=C3=A9 au JO comme "r=C3=A9p= onse > > minist=C3=A9rielle", > > il n'y a que =C3=A7a qui soit opposable =C3=A0 l'administration. Et pour= tout > > dire, =C3=A7a ne me rassure pas vraiment: la loi donne un pouvoir > > disproportionn=C3=A9 =C3=A0 l'administration, et apr=C3=A8s, on promet d= e ne pas en > > abuser... > > > > On est d=E2=80=99accord sur ce dernier point =E2=80=A6 Mais au pire, moi= je continue mon > > boulot et j=E2=80=99aurais la gloire d=E2=80=99avoir un proc=C3=A8s embl= =C3=A9matique =E2=80=A6 > > > > Philippe > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Dolibarr-dev mailing list > > Dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org > > https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev > > > > _______________________________________________ > Dolibarr-dev mailing list > Dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org > https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev > > --=20 *Olivier Geffroy**Consultant Informatique* *Jeffinfo a 15 ans cette ann=C3=A9e ---------------------= ----------------* *Jeffinfo SARL**295 rue d'aire **59660 Merville* *jeff@jeffinfo.com Gsm : 0608632740**Skype : darkj3ff* --001a1143637833f9d30526917959 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sorry french speaking, but don't worry we spoke a= bout a F*** french law=C2=A0

Une partie de ma r=C3=A9po= nse a phillippe tout a l'heure quand j'ai eu l'information=C2= =A0

Quid de toutes les s= oci=C3=A9t=C3=A9s qui font leurs factures sur word ou excel ?
Quid des soci=C3=A9t=C3=A9s qui ont un logiciel en = SAS h=C3=A9berg=C3=A9 a l'=C3=A9tranger comme sales force (est ce que l= e logiciel aura l'obligation d'obtenir cette norme pour vendre sur = le march=C3=A9 fran=C3=A7ais)
Quid des= solutions SAS de facturation (certaines sont des startups prometteuses, ce= tte norme a obtenir va =C3=AAtre un frein a leur d=C3=A9veloppement)
<= div style=3D"font-size:12.8px">Quid des solutions internes de facturation (= prodware fait sur mesure que les GMS utilisent par exemple)

Car si on r= =C3=A9sume cette loi, le but est de graver dans le marbre toutes transactio= ns par un logiciel qui a norme fran=C3=A7aise sp=C3=A9cifique

et pour f= inir le sujet qui nous int=C3=A9resse=C2=A0

Quid du march=C3=A9 de l= 9;open source (4 milliard d'euro ...)


En outre je pense que leurs propositions sont un peu trop intr= usives et il faudrait faire un point sur les lois europ=C3=A9enne, si =C3= =A7a se trouve =C3=A7a fera comme la CSG pour les r=C3=A9sidents non fran= =C3=A7ais et donc en case law cela sera inapplicable=C2=A0

Olivier Geffroy
Consultant Info= rmatique

Jeffinfo a 15 ans c= ette ann=C3=A9e=C2=A0
-------------------------------------
<= div>= Jeffinfo SARL
295 rue d'aire=C2=A059660 = Merville
jeff@jeffinfo.com
Gsm : 0608632740
Skype : darkj3ff<= /b>


Le 10 d=C3=A9cem= bre 2015 =C3=A0 21:49, Charles Benke <charles.fr@benke.fr>= a =C3=A9crit :
<= p class=3D"MsoNormal">Personnellement je ne vois= m=C3=AAme pas comment une telle loi peu passer, c=E2=80=99est un peu comme= obliger les poissons =C3=A0 respirer.

Ce n=E2=80=99est m=C3=AAme pas li=C3= =A9 =C3=A0 Dolibarr, pour connaitre d=E2=80=99autres ERP (gestimum, divalto= ) ils seront dans la m=C3=AAme probl=C3=A9matique =C3=A0 savoir rendre non = modifiable les donn=C3=A9es comptables

Sans parler du reste (boutique intern= et, =E2=80=A6)

La France peut-elle se passer de l=E2=80=99open-source=C2= =A0?

Pouvons-nous continuer de travailler en France=C2=A0?

=C2=A0

Bien co= rdialement,

Charlie Benke

=C2=A0

De=C2=A0: dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3Dbenke.fr@nongnu.org [mailto:dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3Dbenke.fr@nong= nu.org] De la part de CF
Envoy=C3=A9=C2=A0: jeudi 10 d= =C3=A9cembre 2015 21:44
=C3=80=C2=A0: dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org
Objet= =C2=A0: Re: [Dolibarr-dev] Fwd: Re: [April - Atelier] Projet de loi de = finances 2016 : logiciels non-frauduleux. Coordination
=

=C2=A0=

Comment vous voyez la chose pour Dol= ibarr sur le sol fran=C3=A7ais, en admettant que la loi passe, et pour vos = entreprises int=C3=A9grant Dolibarr ? Je pense =C3=A0 Laurent, mais aussi F= lorien ou Rapha=C3=ABl ?

Un entrepreneur qui utilise 'encore= 9; Excel se trouve de facto dans l'ill=C3=A9galit=C3=A9 ?

C'= est d=C3=A9primant en tous cas.

CF

Le 10/12/2015 18:34, Flori= an HENRY a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:


Florian Henry
(+33) 6 03 76 48 07
f= lorian.henry@open-concept.pro
http://www.open-concept.pro
Twitter: @_Open_Conc= ept_
Google +: https://plus.google.com/+Open-conceptPro

Envoy=C3= =A9 =C3=A0 partir de mon smartphone
Veuillez excuser ma bri=C3=A8vet=C3= =A9.


De=C2=A0: Philippe Pary <philippe@pachyde= rme.net>
Envoy=C3=A9=C2=A0: 10 d=C3=A9cembre 2015 16:09:41= GMT+01:00
=C3=80=C2=A0: Baptiste Carvello <bcarvello@april.org>, Thomas = HOCEDEZ <tho= mas.hocedez@free.fr>
Cc=C2=A0: comptabilite <comptabilite@april.org>= ;, reseau@listes.libre-entreprise.org, florian.henry@open-concept.pro, Ph= ilippe Scoffoni | Open-DSI <p.scoffoni@open-dsi.fr>
Objet=C2=A0: Re: [= April - Atelier] Projet de loi de finances 2016 : logiciels non-frauduleux.= Coordination

= =C2=A0

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=C3=87a a dur=C3=A9 20 minut=
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=C2=A0
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que ma lecture du projet, pessimiste, =
est exacte.
=C2=A0
Ils veul=
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facturation et d=E2=80=99encaissement.
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faire corriger =C3=A7a. Je=
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=C2=A0<=
u>
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font que prendre en compte la proposition et 
reven=
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nous (sans avoir =
pr=C3=A9cis=C3=A9 quand)
=C2=A0
=
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rera en vigueur 
en 2018, on aura le temps de corri=
ger =C2=BB m=C3=AAme si un inqui=C3=A9tant =C2=AB =C3=A7a 
entrera peut-=C3=AAtre en vigueur en 2017 =C2=BB lui a =C3=A9chapp=
=C3=A9.
=C2=A0
Le vote de l=
a loi est imminent, c=E2=80=99est la semaine prochaine. =C3=80 ce ce 
titre, notre interlocuteur a rejet=C3=A9 les amendements=
 propos=C3=A9s par 
Baptiste Carvello.
=C2=A0
J=E2=80=99ai =C3=A9videmment bat=
aill=C3=A9 contre les bo=C3=AEtes noires. Le conseiller a 
=C3=A9voqu=C3=A9 que l=E2=80=99AFNOR leur garantissait que c=E2=80=
=99=C3=A9tait possible. Merci l=E2=80=99AFNOR =E2=80=A6
=
=C2=A0
J=E2=80=99ai utilis=C3=A9, c=E2=80=99es=
t vil je le conc=C3=A8de, Prestashop comme argument pour 
dire que =C3=A7a ne concerne pas que 3 pel=C3=A9s et un tondu cette =
affaire.
=C2=A0
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=E2=80=99est la merde.
Philippe
=
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=
=C2=A0
Le 26/11/2015 15:56, Philippe Pary a =C3=A9crit :
 J=E2=80=99ai appel=C3=
=A9 aujourd=E2=80=99hui. Rien n=E2=80=99a boug=C3=A9.
Pffff :/
=C2=A0
 Philip=
pe
=C2=A0
 Le 22/11/2015 13=
:20, Philippe Pary a =C3=A9crit :
 Le 22/11/2015 10:16=
, Baptiste Carvello a =C3=A9crit :
 Le 20/11/2015 13:0=
8, Philippe Pary a =C3=A9crit :
 Salut,<=
/pre>
=C2=A0
 J=E2=80=99ai =C3=A9t=C3=A9 appel=
=C3=A9 hier par le cabinet de M Roman. M Eckert a assur=C3=A9 que=
 nos craintes =C3=A9taient infond=C3=A9es, M Roman lui a dem=
and=C3=A9 un document =C3=A9crit
 l=E2=80=99assuran=
t.
=C2=A0
 Nous attendons c=
e document.
=C2=A0
 Philipp=
e
=C2=A0
 Moua=
is, j'esp=C3=A8re que =C3=A7a sera publi=C3=A9 au JO comme "r=C3=
=A9ponse
minist=C3=A9rielle",
 il n'y a que =C3=A7a qui soit opposable =C3=A0 l'administr=
ation. Et pour tout
 dire, =C3=A7a ne me rassure pa=
s vraiment: la loi donne un pouvoir
 disproportionn=
=C3=A9 =C3=A0 l'administration, et apr=C3=A8s, on promet de ne pas en
 abuser...
<=
/u>=C2=A0
 On est d=E2=80=99accord sur ce dernier point =
=E2=80=A6 Mais au pire, moi je continue mon
 boulot=
 et j=E2=80=99aurais la gloire d=E2=80=99avoir un proc=C3=A8s embl=C3=A9mat=
ique =E2=80=A6
=C2=A0
 Phil=
ippe
=C2=A0




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Consultant Info= rmatique

Jeffinfo a 15 ans c= ette ann=C3=A9e=C2=A0
-------------------------------------
<= div>= Jeffinfo SARL
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Coordination X-BeenThere: dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding List-Id: Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 14:18:21 -0000 --001a114383463c2d6e0526c83a2e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For the moment, it is wait and see. I have no idea of what will be future..= . Le 10 d=C3=A9cembre 2015 =C3=A0 21:44, CF a =C3= =A9crit : > Comment vous voyez la chose pour Dolibarr sur le sol fran=C3=A7ais, en > admettant que la loi passe, et pour vos entreprises int=C3=A9grant Doliba= rr ? Je > pense =C3=A0 Laurent, mais aussi Florien ou Rapha=C3=ABl ? > > Un entrepreneur qui utilise 'encore' Excel se trouve de facto dans > l'ill=C3=A9galit=C3=A9 ? > > C'est d=C3=A9primant en tous cas. > > CF > > > Le 10/12/2015 18:34, Florian HENRY a =C3=A9crit : > > > Florian Henry > (+33) 6 03 76 48 07 > florian.henry@open-concept.pro > http://www.open-concept.pro > Twitter: @_Open_Concept_ > Google +: https://plus.google.com/+Open-conceptPro > > Envoy=C3=A9 =C3=A0 partir de mon smartphone > Veuillez excuser ma bri=C3=A8vet=C3=A9. > > ------------------------------ > *De :* Philippe Pary > *Envoy=C3=A9 :* 10 d=C3=A9cembre 2015 16:09:41 GMT+01:00 > *=C3=80 :* Baptiste Carvello , > Thomas HOCEDEZ > *Cc :* comptabilite , > reseau@listes.libre-entreprise.org, florian.henry@open-concept.pro, > Philippe Scoffoni | Open-DSI > > *Objet :* Re: [April - Atelier] Projet de loi de finances 2016 : > logiciels non-frauduleux. Coordination > > Salut =C3=A0 tous, > > Gr=C3=A2ce =C3=A0 Thomas Hocedez, ami libriste au bras long, on a eu un c= onseiller > de Christian Eckert au t=C3=A9l=C3=A9phone. > =C3=87a a dur=C3=A9 20 minutes, en deux parties. > > Le r=C3=A9sum=C3=A9 de la premi=C3=A8re partie est simple. Nous avons eu = confirmation > que ma lecture du projet, pessimiste, est exacte. > > Ils veulent interdire les logiciels libres de comptabilit=C3=A9, de > facturation et d=E2=80=99encaissement. > > Ou ad minima imposer des bo=C3=AEtes noires au sein de ces logiciels. > > La seconde partie a =C3=A9t=C3=A9 une n=C3=A9gociation de =C2=AB marchand= de tapis =C2=BB pour > faire corriger =C3=A7a. Je vous =C3=A9pargne les d=C3=A9tails. > > Sur ma proposition, le gouvernement r=C3=A9fl=C3=A9chit =C3=A0 la possibi= lit=C3=A9 soit > d=E2=80=99avoir une bo=C3=AEte noire, soit de devoir communiquer avec un = tiers de > confiance qui enregistrerait les donn=C3=A9es. > > Rien n=E2=80=99est acquis, ils ne font que prendre en compte la propositi= on et > reveni > r vers > nous (sans avoir pr=C3=A9cis=C3=A9 quand) > > Nous avons eu le droit =C3=A0 un l=C3=A9nifiant =C2=AB mais la loi entrer= a en vigueur > en 2018, on aura le temps de corriger =C2=BB m=C3=AAme si un inqui=C3=A9t= ant =C2=AB =C3=A7a > entrera peut-=C3=AAtre en vigueur en 2017 =C2=BB lui a =C3=A9chapp=C3=A9. > > Le vote de la loi est imminent, c=E2=80=99est la semaine prochaine. =C3= =80 ce ce > titre, notre interlocuteur a rejet=C3=A9 les amendements propos=C3=A9s pa= r > Baptiste Carvello. > > J=E2=80=99ai =C3=A9videmment bataill=C3=A9 contre les bo=C3=AEtes noires.= Le conseiller a > =C3=A9voqu=C3=A9 que l=E2=80=99AFNOR leur garantissait que c=E2=80=99=C3= =A9tait possible. Merci l=E2=80=99AFNOR =E2=80=A6 > > J=E2=80=99ai utilis=C3=A9, c=E2=80=99est vil je le conc=C3=A8de, Prestash= op comme argument pour > dire que =C3=A7a ne concerne pas que 3 pel=C3=A9s et un tondu cette affai= re. > > En clair, c=E2=80=99est la merde. > Philippe > > > > Le 26/11/2015 15:56, Philippe Pary a =C3=A9crit : >> >> J=E2=80=99ai appel=C3=A9 aujourd=E2=80=99hui. Rien n=E2=80=99a boug=C3= =A9. >> Pffff :/ >> >> Philippe >> >> Le 22/11/2015 13:20, Philippe Pary a =C3=A9crit : >>> >>> Le 22/11/2015 10:16, Baptiste Carvello a =C3=A9crit : >>>> >>>> Le 20/11/2015 13:08, Philippe Pary a =C3=A9crit : >>>>> >>>>> Salut, >>>>> >>>>> J=E2=80=99ai =C3=A9t=C3=A9 appel=C3=A9 hier par le cabinet de M Roma= n. M Eckert a assur=C3=A9 que >>>>> nos craintes =C3=A9taient infond=C3=A9es, M Roman lui a demand=C3=A9= un document =C3=A9crit >>>>> l=E2=80=99assurant. >>>>> >>>>> Nous attendons ce document. >>>>> >>>>> Philippe >>>> >>>> >>>> Mouais, j'esp=C3=A8re que =C3=A7a sera publi=C3=A9 au JO comme "r=C3= =A9ponse >>>> minist=C3=A9rielle", >>>> il n'y a que =C3=A7a qui soit opposable =C3=A0 l'administration. Et p= our tout >>>> dire, =C3=A7a ne me rassure pas vraiment: la loi donne un pouvoir >>>> disproportionn=C3=A9 =C3=A0 l'administration, et apr=C3=A8s, on prome= t de ne pas en >>>> abuser... >>> >>> >>> On est d=E2=80=99accord sur ce dernier point =E2=80=A6 Mais au pire, m= oi je continue mon >>> boulot et j=E2=80=99aurais la gloire d=E2=80=99avoir un proc=C3=A8s em= bl=C3=A9matique =E2=80=A6 >>> >>> Philippe >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Dolibarr-dev mailing listDolibarr-dev@nongnu.orghttps://lists.nongnu.org/= mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev > > > > _______________________________________________ > Dolibarr-dev mailing list > Dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org > https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev > > --=20 EMail: eldy@destailleur.fr Web: http://www.destailleur.fr ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= --------- Google+: https://plus.google.com/+LaurentDestailleur/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Destailleur.Laurent Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/eldy10 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= --------- * Dolibarr (Project leader): http://www.dolibarr.org (make a donation for Dolibarr project via Paypal: contact@destailleur.fr) * AWStats (Author) : http://awstats.sourceforge.net (make a donation for AWStats project via Paypal: contact@destailleur.fr) * AWBot (Author) : http://awbot.sourceforge.net * CVSChangeLogBuilder (Author) : http://cvschangelogb.sourceforge.net --001a114383463c2d6e0526c83a2e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
For the moment, it is wait and see. I have no idea of= what will be future...

Le 10 d=C3=A9cembre 2015 =C3=A0 21:44, CF <cfoiss= ac@studelec-sa.com> a =C3=A9crit :
=20 =20 =20
Comment vous voyez la chose pour Dolibarr sur le sol fran=C3=A7ais, en admettant que la loi passe, et pour vos entreprises int=C3=A9grant Dolibarr ? Je pense =C3=A0 Lauren= t, mais aussi Florien ou Rapha=C3=ABl ?

Un entrepreneur qui utilise 'encore' Excel se trouve de facto= dans l'ill=C3=A9galit=C3=A9 ?

C'est d=C3=A9primant en tous cas.

CF


Le 10/12/2015 18:34, Florian HENRY a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
=20
Florian Henry
(+33) 6 03 76 48 07
f= lorian.henry@open-concept.pro
http://www.= open-concept.pro
Twitter: @_Open_Concept_
Google +: https://plus.google.com/+Open-conceptPro

Envoy=C3=A9 =C3=A0 partir de mon smartphone
Veuillez excuser ma bri=C3=A8vet=C3=A9.


De=C2=A0: Philippe Pary <philippe@pachyderme.net>
Envoy=C3=A9=C2=A0: 10 d=C3=A9cembre 2015 16:09:41 GMT+01:00<= br> =C3=80=C2=A0: Baptiste Carvello <bcarvello@april.org>, Thomas HOCEDEZ <thomas.hocedez@free.fr>
Cc=C2=A0: comptabilite <comptabilite@april.org>, reseau@listes.libre-entreprise.org, florian.henry@open-concept.pro, Philippe Scoffoni | Open-DSI <p.s= coffoni@open-dsi.fr>
Objet=C2=A0: Re: [April - Atelier] Projet de loi de finances 2016 : logiciels non-frauduleux. Coordination

Salut =C3=A0 tous,

Gr=C3=A2ce =C3=A0 Thomas Hocedez, ami libriste au bras long, on a eu un con=
seiller=20
de Christian Eckert au t=C3=A9l=C3=A9phone.
=C3=87a a dur=C3=A9 20 minutes, en deux parties.

Le r=C3=A9sum=C3=A9 de la premi=C3=A8re partie est simple. Nous avons eu co=
nfirmation=20
que ma lecture du projet, pessimiste, est exacte.

Ils veulent interdire les logiciels libres de comptabilit=C3=A9, de=20
facturation et d=E2=80=99encaissement.

Ou ad minima imposer des bo=C3=AEtes noires au sein de ces logiciels.

La seconde partie a =C3=A9t=C3=A9 une n=C3=A9gociation de =C2=AB marchand d=
e tapis =C2=BB pour=20
faire corriger =C3=A7a. Je vous =C3=A9pargne les d=C3=A9tails.

Sur ma proposition, le gouvernement r=C3=A9fl=C3=A9chit =C3=A0 la possibili=
t=C3=A9 soit=20
d=E2=80=99avoir une bo=C3=AEte noire, soit de devoir communiquer avec un ti=
ers de=20
confiance qui enregistrerait les donn=C3=A9es.

Rien n=E2=80=99est acquis, ils ne font que prendre en compte la proposition=
 et=20
reveni
 r vers
nous (sans avoir pr=C3=A9cis=C3=A9 quand)

Nous avons eu le droit =C3=A0 un l=C3=A9nifiant =C2=AB mais la loi entrera =
en vigueur=20
en 2018, on aura le temps de corriger =C2=BB m=C3=AAme si un inqui=C3=A9tan=
t =C2=AB =C3=A7a=20
entrera peut-=C3=AAtre en vigueur en 2017 =C2=BB lui a =C3=A9chapp=C3=A9.

Le vote de la loi est imminent, c=E2=80=99est la semaine prochaine. =C3=80 =
ce ce=20
titre, notre interlocuteur a rejet=C3=A9 les amendements propos=C3=A9s par=
=20
Baptiste Carvello.

J=E2=80=99ai =C3=A9videmment bataill=C3=A9 contre les bo=C3=AEtes noires. L=
e conseiller a=20
=C3=A9voqu=C3=A9 que l=E2=80=99AFNOR leur garantissait que c=E2=80=99=C3=A9=
tait possible. Merci l=E2=80=99AFNOR =E2=80=A6

J=E2=80=99ai utilis=C3=A9, c=E2=80=99est vil je le conc=C3=A8de, Prestashop=
 comme argument pour=20
dire que =C3=A7a ne concerne pas que 3 pel=C3=A9s et un tondu cette affaire=
.

En clair, c=E2=80=99est la merde.
Philippe



Le 26/11/2015 15:56, Philippe Pary a =C3=A9crit :
J=E2=80=99ai appel=C3=A9 aujourd= =E2=80=99hui. Rien n=E2=80=99a boug=C3=A9. Pffff :/ Philippe Le 22/11/2015 13:20, Philippe Pary a =C3=A9crit :
Le 22/11/2015 10:16, Baptiste Car= vello a =C3=A9crit :
Le 20/11/2015 13:08, Philippe Par= y a =C3=A9crit :
Salut, J=E2=80=99ai =C3=A9t=C3=A9 appel=C3=A9 hier par le cabinet de M Roman. M E= ckert a assur=C3=A9 que nos craintes =C3=A9taient infond=C3=A9es, M Roman lui a demand=C3=A9 un do= cument =C3=A9crit l=E2=80=99assurant. Nous attendons ce document. Philippe
Mouais, j'esp=C3=A8re que =C3=A7a sera publi=C3=A9 au JO comme "r= =C3=A9ponse minist=C3=A9rielle", il n'y a que =C3=A7a qui soit opposable =C3=A0 l'administration. E= t pour tout dire, =C3=A7a ne me rassure pas vraiment: la loi donne un pouvoir disproportionn=C3=A9 =C3=A0 l'administration, et apr=C3=A8s, on promet= de ne pas en abuser...
On est d=E2=80=99accord sur ce dernier point =E2=80=A6 Mais au pire, moi j= e continue mon boulot et j=E2=80=99aurais la gloire d=E2=80=99avoir un proc=C3=A8s embl= =C3=A9matique =E2=80=A6 Philippe


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Why ? Can(t it be a simple > link and let people right click to save ? > You can achieve this just by a setup of your browser. Another solution, if you don't know how to do this, you can also set option MAIN_DISABLE_FORCE_SAVEAS to 1. > > This one, I think I could fork on github, but only if I'm sure it will be > integrated > - action are in the url or in post that leads the browser to redo the > action if shutdown and tabs are reloaded. In SPIP, actions are handled with > internal redirect so that you can comminicate URLS to other without garbage > ans reload tabs without a question like "Would you like to send the data > again ?" > Dolibarr was designed to be used without need to press F5, so for a common usage, this is not a trouble. I d'ont experience the message "Would you like to send the data again ?". Can you describe a use case when you have this ? - confirmations : why is Dolibarr diplaying confirmation AFTER reloading > the page : can't it be ajax overlay ? > Why ? > > - position of button to add a line and to validate : I click on the > validate loosing all my text to much often ! (consequence of precedent > point) > Sorry, i don't see. Can you provide more information on this ? A screen shot may help to understand. > > - I do not use plugins because the only one I've tried was overwriting > some part of Dolibarr code. > Such plugins are not pluggins, but code hacks. By definition a plugin does not overwrite any dolibarr files. It is a standalone directory. > > And also because I've read that after each update of Dolibarr, I should > desactivate and activate again each of those plugins. > Where did you read this ? It may be true that with a new version of dolibarr, you may need to upgrade also plugin (above all if plugins does not match dolibarr development rules), but need to disable/enable should be rare. > > > Thanks for reading. > > PS : I'm reposting because I've posted from another email not susbscribed > to the list > Jacques - www.pyrat.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > Dolibarr-dev mailing list > Dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org > https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev > > -- EMail: eldy@destailleur.fr Web: http://www.destailleur.fr ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Google+: https://plus.google.com/+LaurentDestailleur/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Destailleur.Laurent Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/eldy10 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ * Dolibarr (Project leader): http://www.dolibarr.org (make a donation for Dolibarr project via Paypal: contact@destailleur.fr) * AWStats (Author) : http://awstats.sourceforge.net (make a donation for AWStats project via Paypal: contact@destailleur.fr) * AWBot (Author) : http://awbot.sourceforge.net * CVSChangeLogBuilder (Author) : http://cvschangelogb.sourceforge.net --001a11426426d9ab800526c8665a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


2015-12-07 21:44 GMT+01:00 Jacques PYRAT <jpyrat@gmail.com>:
=20 =20 =20
Hi,

Excuse my english, I read it every day, but don't write often.

I'm using Dolibarr without any plugin since 2013.
It's a source of dilights, and a pain in the ass alltogether

Why is it a pain ?
- link pdf generated have a content disposition that force the download (there is a plugin to handle that : https://www.dolistore.com/fr/modules/340-Ap= er--u-document-3-3-3-8.html !) (and I use browser extension to override this). Why ? Can(t it be a simple link and let people right click to save ?

You can achieve this just by a= setup of your browser.
Another solution, if you don't know h= ow to do this, you can also set option=C2=A0MAIN_DISABLE_FORCE_SAVEAS to 1.=C2=A0
=

This one, I think I could fork on github, but only if I'm sure it will be integrated
- action are in the url or in post that leads the browser to redo the action if shutdown and tabs are reloaded. In SPIP, actions are handled with internal redirect so that you can comminicate URLS to other without garbage ans reload tabs without a question like "Would you like to send the data again ?"

Dolibarr was designed to be used without nee= d to press F5, so for a common usage, this is not a trouble. I d'ont ex= perience the message=C2=A0"Would you like to send the data again ?". Can you describe = a use case when you have this ?

- confirmations : why is Dolibarr diplaying confirmation AFTER reloading the page : can't it be ajax overlay ?

Why ?=C2=A0

- position of button to add a line and to validate : I click on the validate loosing all my text to much often ! (consequence of precedent point)

Sorry, i don't see. Can yo= u provide more information on this ? A screen shot may help to understand.= =C2=A0
<= br> - I do not use plugins because the only one I've tried was overwriting some part of Dolibarr code.

Such plugins are not pluggins,= but code hacks. By definition a plugin does not overwrite any dolibarr fil= es. It is a standalone directory.
=C2=A0
=

And also because I've read that after each update of Dolibarr, I should desactivate and activate again each of those plugins.

Where did you read this ?=C2=A0
It may be true that with a new version of dolibarr, you may need to upgr= ade also plugin (above all if plugins does not match dolibarr development r= ules), but need to disable/enable should be rare.
=C2=A0


Thanks for reading.

PS : I'm reposting because I've posted from another email not susbscribed to the list
Jacques - www.pyra= t.net



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The more we wait, the more difficult is to have a stable version. It is not because a release is availabel that users HAVE TO upgrade. Saying to wait because a new amazing feature will come is also not a good reason to delay. There is always amazing and important feature in the pipe. The fact is user rely on roadmap. And roadmap say we will launch the beta if everything looks stable enough to start a beta. And it is. Currently i am not aware of critical troubles, nor in 3.8.2, nor in 3.9 branch, so there is no reason to not follow the good practice "release early, release often". If i missed such problems, it will be interesting to have them reported on github bug tracker (note the old tracker on doliforge has been adandonned). Then the argument "we must start beta later because we need to do more test", is just a bad argument. The goal of the beta is to "start test". So the more we wait to start the beta, the less we make test. So let's test the version now the freeze so the fix/bug period has started and fix the more you can. The annouce of the freeze for future 3.9 just means: "We don't need features developers, new features will not be introduced, we need testers and bug fixers" and it seems everybody agrees with that, so we are going in same direction. PS: Adding phpunit tests is not adding new feature, so you can submit such PR. 2015-12-07 21:32 GMT+01:00 Olivier Geffroy : > Hi all, > > why launch the 3.9 ? > we have a lot of problems with 3.8, it's disturbing for users. It will be > better to spend the next 6 months in order to correct the 3.8 and show th= at > we care about stability (don't be Microsoft..) > my 2 cents > > 2015-12-07 10:01 GMT+01:00 Florian HENRY = : > >> Laurent, >> >> Can you create 3.8_backport branch ? >> >> Regard >> >> Florian Henry+33 6 03 76 48 07florian.henry@open-concept.prohttp://www.o= pen-concept.pro >> Twitter : @_Open_Concept_ >> Google+ : https://www.google.com/+Open-conceptPro >> >> Le 06/12/2015 15:09, charles benke.fr a =C3=A9crit : >> >> Hello Laurent >> >> Please don=E2=80=99t freez the 3.9 till end of year, >> >> we have planned 3 week of work on accounting modules whose a real advanc= e >> on Dolibarr than a better interface >> >> and I don=E2=80=99t the advancement on native multidevis on >> >> >> >> Charlie (defrance) >> >> >> >> >> >> *De :* dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3Dbenke.fr@nongnu.org [ >> mailto:dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3Dbenke.fr@nongnu.org >> ] *De la part de* >> Laurent Destailleur (aka Eldy) >> *Envoy=C3=A9 :* dimanche 6 d=C3=A9cembre 2015 14:53 >> *=C3=80 :* ML Dolibarr dev >> *Objet :* [Dolibarr-dev] Dolibarr 3.9 freeze >> >> >> >> >> >> As usual, i am a little bit late compared to roadmap for the annoucement >> of the freez of version 3.9 >> >> >> >> There was so exiting changes into interface on the road that i would lik= e >> to have them finished and stable to start the freeze. >> >> It's done. >> >> >> >> Starting from today, no new features will be added from PR. >> >> >> >> I will create the branch 3.9 soon, but please, everybody, let's start to >> debug the current develop version ans send fixes. >> >> >> >> >> >> Version 3.9 should have a better compatibility with external modules tha= t >> 3.8, so i think you can already check your externale modules are still >> working. >> >> The Changelog provides information on what was necessarly changed and ma= y >> create regression for external modules. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Laurent (eldy) >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------ >> Google+: https://plus.google.com/+LaurentDestailleur/ >> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Destailleur.Laurent >> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/eldy10 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Dolibarr-dev mailing listDolibarr-dev@nongnu.orghttps://lists.nongnu.org= /mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Dolibarr-dev mailing list >> Dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org >> https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev >> >> > > > -- > > > *Olivier Geffroy**Consultant Informatique* > > > > *Jeffinfo a 15 ans cette ann=C3=A9e > -------------------= ------------------* > > *Jeffinfo SARL**295 rue d'aire **59660 Merville* > > > *jeff@jeffinfo.com Gsm : 0608632740**Skype : darkj3ff* > > > _______________________________________________ > Dolibarr-dev mailing list > Dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org > https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev > > --=20 EMail: eldy@destailleur.fr Web: http://www.destailleur.fr ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= --------- Google+: https://plus.google.com/+LaurentDestailleur/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Destailleur.Laurent Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/eldy10 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= --------- * Dolibarr (Project leader): http://www.dolibarr.org (make a donation for Dolibarr project via Paypal: contact@destailleur.fr) * AWStats (Author) : http://awstats.sourceforge.net (make a donation for AWStats project via Paypal: contact@destailleur.fr) * AWBot (Author) : http://awbot.sourceforge.net * CVSChangeLogBuilder (Author) : http://cvschangelogb.sourceforge.net --001a11438346a4a6cc0526c89a76 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Waiting more time to start a beta period is never a good i= dea. The more we wait, the more difficult is to have a stable version. It i= s not because a release is availabel that users HAVE TO upgrade.=C2=A0
= Saying to wait because a new amazing feature will come is also not a good r= eason to delay. There is always amazing and important feature in the pipe.<= /div>

The fact is user rely on roadmap. And roadmap say = we will launch the beta if everything looks stable enough to start a beta. = And it is.

Currently i am not aware of critical tr= oubles, nor in 3.8.2, nor in 3.9 branch, so there is no reason to not follo= w the good practice "release early, release often".
If = i missed such problems, it will be interesting to have them reported on git= hub bug tracker (note the old tracker on doliforge has been adandonned).

Then the argument "we must start beta later bec= ause we need to do more test", is just a bad argument. The goal of the= beta is to "start test". So the more we wait to start the beta, = the less we make test.

So let's test the versi= on now the freeze so the fix/bug period has started and fix the more you ca= n.=C2=A0
The annouce of the freeze for future 3.9 just means: &qu= ot;We don't need features developers, new features will not be introduc= ed, we need testers and bug fixers" and it seems everybody agrees with= that, so we are going in same direction.

PS: Addi= ng phpunit tests is not adding new feature, so you can submit such PR.



2015-12-07 21:32 GMT+01:00 Olivier Geffroy <jeff@jeffi= nfo.com>:
= Hi all,=C2=A0

why launch the 3.9 ?
we have a l= ot of problems with 3.8, it's disturbing for users. It will be better t= o spend the next 6 months in order to correct the 3.8 and show that we care= about stability (don't be Microsoft..)
my 2 cents

2015-12-07 10:01 GMT+01:00 Florian HENRY <florian.henr= y@open-concept.pro>:
=20 =20 =20
Laurent,

=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Can you create 3.8_backport branch ?

Regard
Florian Henry
+33 6 03 76 48 07
florian=
.henry@open-concept.pro
http://www.open-c=
oncept.pro
Twitter : @_Open_Concept_
Google+ : https://www.google.com/+Open-conceptPro
Le 06/12/2015 15:09, charles benke.fr a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
=20 =20 =20

Hello Laurent<= u>

Please don=E2= =80=99t freez the 3.9 till end of year,

we have planned 3 week of work on accounting modules whose a real advance on Dolibarr than a better interface

and I don=E2=80=99t the advancement on native multidevis on

=C2=A0<= u>

Charlie (defra= nce)

=C2=A0<= u>

=C2=A0<= u>

De=C2=A0: dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3Dbenke.fr@nong= nu.org [mailto:dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3Dbenke= .fr@nongnu.org] De la part de Laurent Destailleur (aka Eldy)
Envoy=C3=A9=C2=A0: dimanche 6 d=C3=A9cembre 2015 14:53 =C3=80=C2=A0: ML Dolibarr dev <dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org>
Objet=C2=A0: [Dolibarr-dev] Dolibarr 3.9 freeze

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

As usual, i am a little bit late compared to roadmap for the annoucement of the freez of version 3.9

=C2=A0

There was so exiting changes into interface on the road that i would like to have them finished and stable to start the freeze.

It's done.

=C2=A0

Starting from today, no new features will be added from PR.

=C2=A0

I will create the branch 3.9 soon, but please, everybody, let's start to debug the current develop version ans send fixes.=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Version 3.9 should have a better compatibility with external modules that 3.8, so i think you can already check your externale modules are still working.

The Changelog provides information on what was necessarly changed and may create regression for external modules.


=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

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--001a11438346a4a6cc0526c89a76-- From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Dec 13 09:51:48 2015 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1a8804-0002Kz-FQ for mharc-dolibarr-dev@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 09:51:48 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43307) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a8801-0002KT-Qr for dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 09:51:47 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a8800-0004NT-B6 for dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 09:51:45 -0500 Received: from mail-vk0-x229.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400c:c05::229]:34510) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a8800-0004NI-6I for dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 09:51:44 -0500 Received: by vkgj66 with SMTP id j66so44410954vkg.1 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 06:51:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=destailleur-fr.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=wmH7JGTfW0K5g5I8NDburdye9Z/wM8DkctS37mleOdc=; b=WmCDULS+ATfpJZwiCNLZmE+D4tMWJrICtuDBwpKGPut6Z0wQv/ffe5wYf1+l6MBsCZ DeK0ivo2cIsraZn0askpy9Vw4pCUG7clRWhiY588A6IIPCwb7oOl9QEtsddmMfbwvlN0 V64DraJIR6DTzpjPJ4jdfBFpLh3kYWGWPdyUG96nmzqggs9bLs1QlGEkiEItEX7KKo8O 8imAOXHfxEkhQ8Qqc88VmhCeFWdlAVhLFyLG27JcWQefo434eKpDLQZ0hayMGYHRxtTB bbJVkNt+Dqoymk2U+MpWCREMEuRhNcGingRJLZb99T3qOZDQ6xOmSUx/2OeF95oqogTE nswg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=wmH7JGTfW0K5g5I8NDburdye9Z/wM8DkctS37mleOdc=; b=JoQSpAgZdT4U98vXXapKZ1EqzPxiZhhUm090vEgI1Yl1TyS5UvV7oEEm39os26K1xo nlREnID2FvmEYIAKCKzhXLh+GwKZesbuuiC5lyPV+1oHCPqiD9KDAwNA4SRiPvj+kbls x43xwnN8xfwxnT2aeBfy0PHqx9hQVRbbevrlf0GuIQ0tB6e08eR+WW7eFeOPvd0x2YAd kEksRKpHQvk/jBhFR58xezEaPVc0As6z3LbHI70DTDB0YQXpd3KxZ+84TbEMcd6WurTZ zQqdOerS1orGPI42EibVNi+POszSpxYhjxKFICcZRtl4c1pyMWIt+/tVEjcmlFy4grka GOAQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmJyzfGZibAeZIjNamcHD5hLoqf9FhGZgJMNHEoycsNos3Omt+pwMMD7xyTyzE5Hw3vB26iSB1hlUePFOnR9uZInViA5g== X-Received: by 10.31.49.147 with SMTP id x141mr21601207vkx.1.1450018303470; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 06:51:43 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.31.34.86 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 06:51:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20151209111649.16871984@gram.numscale.com> References: <20151209111649.16871984@gram.numscale.com> From: "Laurent Destailleur (aka Eldy)" Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 15:51:24 +0100 Message-ID: To: "Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11438346e57d620526c8b143 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400c:c05::229 Subject: Re: [Dolibarr-dev] Patch for LDAP with STARTTLS X-BeenThere: dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding List-Id: Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 14:51:47 -0000 --001a11438346e57d620526c8b143 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Thanks. Fixed was added. 2015-12-09 12:16 GMT+01:00 Guillaume Quintin : > Hi, > > It seems that, while dolibarr proposes to use TLS to connect to the LDAP > server (in the LDAP module configuration page), it is not supported > within the php code. I was unable to find any code that handles LDAP > TLS. Therefore assuming that TLS means STARTTLS for dolibarr as for > apache2 for example, I propose the following patch to take care of this. > > Best regards, > > -- Guillaume Quintin > > _______________________________________________ > Dolibarr-dev mailing list > Dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org > https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev > > -- EMail: eldy@destailleur.fr Web: http://www.destailleur.fr ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Google+: https://plus.google.com/+LaurentDestailleur/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Destailleur.Laurent Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/eldy10 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ * Dolibarr (Project leader): http://www.dolibarr.org (make a donation for Dolibarr project via Paypal: contact@destailleur.fr) * AWStats (Author) : http://awstats.sourceforge.net (make a donation for AWStats project via Paypal: contact@destailleur.fr) * AWBot (Author) : http://awbot.sourceforge.net * CVSChangeLogBuilder (Author) : http://cvschangelogb.sourceforge.net --001a11438346e57d620526c8b143 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Hi,

It seems that, while dolibarr proposes to use TLS to connect to the LDAP server (in the LDAP module configuration page), it is not supported
within the php code. I was unable to find any code that handles LDAP
TLS. Therefore assuming that TLS means STARTTLS for dolibarr as for
apache2 for example, I propose the following patch to take care of this.
Best regards,

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Hi,

I've seen that module tabs are = gone and I think it decreases user experience=E2=80=A6 We have actually a l= ot of modules and the module configuration page is now a little mess when w= e are trying to find a specific module=E2=80=A6

Ca= n we at least have javascript tabs to have a better organization?

Regards,
=C2=A0
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--001a11471e5649c90d05278ee6c8-- From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Dec 23 07:55:56 2015 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1aBixQ-0008NY-J9 for mharc-dolibarr-dev@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Dec 2015 07:55:56 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37697) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aBixO-0008LN-DP for dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org; Wed, 23 Dec 2015 07:55:55 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aBixN-0001GF-2m for dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org; Wed, 23 Dec 2015 07:55:54 -0500 Received: from mail-vk0-x22b.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400c:c05::22b]:34600) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aBixM-0001F1-Sp for dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org; Wed, 23 Dec 2015 07:55:52 -0500 Received: by mail-vk0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id j66so132863008vkg.1 for ; Wed, 23 Dec 2015 04:55:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=destailleur-fr.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=aErR3Qp0uuf2YLnD46ViFA5EmhrPLpXSXbOzA2GVD2w=; b=hpcswLHWVIWu/Amt+H7x9NfcC5lpL/lO7CJO0UAqRkkTquOcb1MlH2XKq8USgSY3ey DaSzqDqcFxjBZ9ii51G29xcKO4BzuAehRrVAOqr3r2Lg7BU6XgZy3ytb4yhrf/1cqeoP wJ7nsJn6L92d6WjCBzwrxiZj07+S1RaqKoJ433V9EdZgUHJnmHGGRBS4ncSM9DPkDK0X a03flueWpWHAecuK/8oqQTgpLIkYD+Tp0i7LDeHHYhev04uMp+pyh8gXg0ICETCHC/KX Q11ZikKWD4YKwfEpcEmT+gLyzey6b1LSV+r2X/vWCKsqCx64+lOnJMRvogol9pFCPN3U lkcA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=aErR3Qp0uuf2YLnD46ViFA5EmhrPLpXSXbOzA2GVD2w=; b=kpWJnpDSPZIOO/3PDY6LpUfPO+77l5juQrVMdbSbG5X1rKMhSS5B+eaUfZdPByyHSu pBWEUwo4hJ6YlUdPwMjZo+V2y61/AKBnSOXEAPZxvyZjGl6iZikw479d/VBLp29IBSVf OFEIx/m4QC8Y0wCQ0jAyITDaVEF7Pcoh9yYaB217SVR9nvgYEJ9+IzebAcXpoDIe1k1e Efp9DxGxVegqnpsALsuv5RZfFYejlbTbpg6gW5cw+YO/bjv0L/rWYCdpQ/IHMn6uRCsI r3M4f9M0MDVdo+ESXgtFqD3yT43aNSWIV2P2GvG10k9xS87Xb4/Kmow3ZErpHCR9/1GV CRUA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnrGpV52nymymBG+X7V7uI8wtRRNkesC1S2sAIsIKDriFvD14qp/hRul0071xUQeDPsZ9WkRpK6ygF1t+JiQGoPXpFR7g== X-Received: by 10.31.171.202 with SMTP id u193mr19296519vke.12.1450875351813; Wed, 23 Dec 2015 04:55:51 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.31.34.86 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Dec 2015 04:55:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: "Laurent Destailleur (aka Eldy)" Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2015 13:55:32 +0100 Message-ID: To: "Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1143763ef566f10527903d28 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400c:c05::22b Subject: Re: [Dolibarr-dev] Take back module tabs X-BeenThere: dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding List-Id: Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2015 12:55:56 -0000 --001a1143763ef566f10527903d28 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A lot of users just failed to find module when using several tabs. Also list of modules were so long that adding more tabs was not a good solution. There is work planned to introduce filters on status, module family, keywords, installed or not, external or embedded and more. And this need to have all module on same page. Such filters will probably be in javascript, that's why first step was to merge all tabs into one. 2015-12-23 12:19 GMT+01:00 Marcos Garc=C3=ADa : > Hi, > > I've seen that module tabs are gone and I think it decreases user > experience=E2=80=A6 We have actually a lot of modules and the module conf= iguration > page is now a little mess when we are trying to find a specific module=E2= =80=A6 > > Can we at least have javascript tabs to have a better organization? > > Regards, > > > *Marcos Garc=C3=ADa* > > marcosgdf@gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Dolibarr-dev mailing list > Dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org > https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev > > --=20 EMail: eldy@destailleur.fr Web: http://www.destailleur.fr ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= --------- Google+: https://plus.google.com/+LaurentDestailleur/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Destailleur.Laurent Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/eldy10 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= --------- * Dolibarr (Project leader): http://www.dolibarr.org (make a donation for Dolibarr project via Paypal: contact@destailleur.fr) * AWStats (Author) : http://awstats.sourceforge.net (make a donation for AWStats project via Paypal: contact@destailleur.fr) * AWBot (Author) : http://awbot.sourceforge.net * CVSChangeLogBuilder (Author) : http://cvschangelogb.sourceforge.net --001a1143763ef566f10527903d28 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
A lot of users just failed to find module when using = several tabs. Also list of modules were so long that adding more tabs was n= ot a good solution.

There is work planned to introduce = filters on status, module family, keywords, installed or not, external or e= mbedded and more. And this need to have all module on same page. Such filte= rs will probably be in javascript, that's why first step was to merge a= ll tabs into one.

2015-12-23 12:19 GMT+01:00 Marcos Garc=C3=ADa <<= a href=3D"mailto:marcosgdf@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">marcosgdf@gmail.com= >:
Hi,
I've seen that module tabs are gone and I think it decr= eases user experience=E2=80=A6 We have actually a lot of modules and the mo= dule configuration page is now a little mess when we are trying to find a s= pecific module=E2=80=A6

Can we at least have javas= cript tabs to have a better organization?

Regards,=
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Marcos Garc=C3=ADa
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Hi there,

 

Le livre de Romain =C2=AB Bien = g=C3=A9rer son entreprise avec Dolibarr =C2=BB pour = soci=C3=A9t=C3=A9 de services et consultants est disponible en version = b=C3=AAta depuis peu sur le site de sa maison d=E2=80=99=C3=A9dition = d-booker.fr

 

http://www.d-booker.fr/dolibarr/283-dolibarr-p= our-societes-de-services-et-consultants.html

 

Pour le moment, le livre est disponible en = version html, Epub et PDF. Une version papier sera diffus=C3=A9 d=C3=A8s = les derniers correctifs et ajouts termin=C3=A9s =E2=80=93 sortie de la = version finale pr=C3=A9vue aux alentours du DevCamp = 2016

 

Joyeux Noel

 

Bien cordialement,

Charlie Benke

 

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Romain's book "Manage your business = with Dolibarr" for consultants and services companies is now = available in beta version on the publisher = website

 

http://www.d-booker.fr/dolibarr/283-dolibarr-p= our-societes-de-services-et-consultants.html

 

The book is available in html, Epub and PDF = format for the moment. A paper version will be released soon, once the = latest patches and additions completed - final version expected around = DevCamp 2016

 

Merry Christmas

 

Best regards,

Charlie Benke

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(and I use browser extension to override this). Why ? Can(t it > be a simple link and let people right click to save ? > > > You can achieve this just by a setup of your browser. > Another solution, if you don't know how to do this, you can also set=20 > option MAIN_DISABLE_FORCE_SAVEAS to 1. Great ! Hidden, but great ! > > This one, I think I could fork on github, but only if I'm sure it > will be integrated > - action are in the url or in post that leads the browser to redo > the action if shutdown and tabs are reloaded. In SPIP, actions are > handled with internal redirect so that you can comminicate URLS to > other without garbage ans reload tabs without a question like > "Would you like to send the data again ?" > > > Dolibarr was designed to be used without need to press F5, so for a=20 > common usage, this is not a trouble. I d'ont experience the message=20 > "Would you like to send the data again ?". Can you describe a use case = > when you have this ? It happens when I quit my browser (Windows Update for example) and when=20 I restart it, it reload all the tabs. And in some case, the browser ask=20 me if I want to resend the form. > > - confirmations : why is Dolibarr diplaying confirmation AFTER > reloading the page : can't it be ajax overlay ? > > > Why ? > > > - position of button to add a line and to validate : I click on > the validate loosing all my text to much often ! (consequence of > precedent point) > > > Sorry, i don't see. Can you provide more information on this ? A=20 > screen shot may help to understand. Because [Valider] is near the text I'm writing, I click it instead of=20 [Ajouter] and I lost all that I was writting (because confirmation=20 occurs after refreshing the page and not before). > > - I do not use plugins because the only one I've tried was > overwriting some part of Dolibarr code. > > > Such plugins are not pluggins, but code hacks. By definition a plugin=20 > does not overwrite any dolibarr files. It is a standalone directory. Glad to read it. > > And also because I've read that after each update of Dolibarr, I > should desactivate and activate again each of those plugins. > > > Where did you read this ? Someone told me on IRC. > It may be true that with a new version of dolibarr, you may need to=20 > upgrade also plugin (above all if plugins does not match dolibarr=20 > development rules), but need to disable/enable should be rare. Thanks for your answers. Regards, Merry Christmas. --=20 Jacques =97 www.pyrat.net --------------020104000206000507000104 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------010702040506000209090103" --------------010702040506000209090103 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Laurent Destailleur (aka Eldy) a =E9cr= it le 13/12/2015 15:30=A0:


2015-12-07 21:44 GMT+01:00 Jacques PYRAT <jpyrat= @gmail.com>:
Hi,

Excuse my english, I read it every day, but don't write often.

I'm using Dolibarr without any plugin since 2013.
It's a source of dilights, and a pain in the ass alltogether

Why is it a pain ?
- link pdf generated have a content disposition that force the download (there is a plugin to handle that : https://www.dolistore.com/fr/module= s/340-Aper--u-document-3-3-3-8.html !) (and I use browser extension to override this). Why ? Can(t it be a simple link and let people right click to save ?

You can achieve this just by a setup of your browser.
Another solution, if you don't know how to do this, you can also set option=A0MAIN_DI= SABLE_FORCE_SAVEAS to 1.
Great !
Hidden, but great !


This one, I think I could fork on github, but only if I'm sure it will be integrated
- action are in the url or in post that leads the browser to redo the action if shutdown and tabs are reloaded. In SPIP, actions are handled with internal redirect so that you can comminicate URLS to other without garbage ans reload tabs without a question like "Would you like to send the data again ?"

Dolibarr was designed to be used without need to press F5, so for a common usage, this is not a trouble. I d'ont experience the message=A0"Would yo= u like to send the data again ?". Can you describe a use case when you have this ?
It happens when I quit my browser (Windows Update for example) and when I restart it, it reload all the tabs. And in some case, the browser ask me if I want to resend the form.

- confirmations : why is Dolibarr diplaying confirmation AFTER reloading the page : can't it be ajax overlay ?

Why ?=A0

- position of button to add a line and to validate : I click on the validate loosing all my text to much often ! (consequence of precedent point)

Sorry, i don't see. Can you provide more information on this ? A screen shot may help to understand.
3D""
Because [Valider] is near the text I'm writing, I click it instead of [Ajouter] and I lost all that I was writting (because confirmation occurs after refreshing the page and not before).


- I do not use plugins because the only one I've tried was overwriting some part of Dolibarr code.

Such plugins are not pluggins, but code hacks. By definition a plugin does not overwrite any dolibarr files. It is a standalone directory.
Glad to read it.

=A0

And also because I've read that after each update of Dolibarr, I should desactivate and activate again each of those plugins.

Where did you read this ?
Someone told me on IRC.

It may be true that with a new version of dolibarr, you may need to upgrade also plugin (above all if plugins does not match dolibarr development rules), but need to disable/enable should be rare.
Thanks for your answers.

Regards,
Merry Christmas.

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Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1143834638cd5e0527e666db X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400c:c05::232 Subject: Re: [Dolibarr-dev] Book about Dolibarr X-BeenThere: dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding List-Id: Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2015 19:43:18 -0000 --001a1143834638cd5e0527e666db Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Note, you can submit a news on dolibarr.fr web site (menu "submit news" once logged on forum) if book is in french. Le 24 d=C3=A9cembre 2015 =C3=A0 15:22, Charles Benke = a =C3=A9crit : > Hi there, > > > > Le livre de Romain =C2=AB Bien g=C3=A9rer son entreprise avec Dolibarr = =C2=BB pour > soci=C3=A9t=C3=A9 de services et consultants est disponible en version b= =C3=AAta depuis > peu sur le site de sa maison d=E2=80=99=C3=A9dition d-booker.fr > > > > > http://www.d-booker.fr/dolibarr/283-dolibarr-pour-societes-de-services-et= -consultants.html > > > > Pour le moment, le livre est disponible en version html, Epub et PDF. Une > version papier sera diffus=C3=A9 d=C3=A8s les derniers correctifs et ajou= ts termin=C3=A9s > =E2=80=93 sortie de la version finale pr=C3=A9vue aux alentours du DevCam= p 2016 > > > > Joyeux Noel > > > > Bien cordialement, > > Charlie Benke > > > > ------- > > > > Romain's book "Manage your business with Dolibarr" for consultants and > services companies is now available in beta version on the publisher webs= ite > > > > > http://www.d-booker.fr/dolibarr/283-dolibarr-pour-societes-de-services-et= -consultants.html > > > > The book is available in html, Epub and PDF format for the moment. A pape= r > version will be released soon, once the latest patches and additions > completed - final version expected around DevCamp 2016 > > > > Merry Christmas > > > > Best regards, > > Charlie Benke > > _______________________________________________ > Dolibarr-dev mailing list > Dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org > https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev > > --=20 EMail: eldy@destailleur.fr Web: http://www.destailleur.fr ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= --------- Google+: https://plus.google.com/+LaurentDestailleur/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Destailleur.Laurent Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/eldy10 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= --------- * Dolibarr (Project leader): http://www.dolibarr.org (make a donation for Dolibarr project via Paypal: contact@destailleur.fr) * AWStats (Author) : http://awstats.sourceforge.net (make a donation for AWStats project via Paypal: contact@destailleur.fr) * AWBot (Author) : http://awbot.sourceforge.net * CVSChangeLogBuilder (Author) : http://cvschangelogb.sourceforge.net --001a1143834638cd5e0527e666db Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Le 24 d=C3=A9cembre 2015 =C3=A0 15:22, Charles Benke <c= harles.fr@benke.fr> a =C3=A9crit :

Hi there,

=C2=A0

= Le livre de Romain =C2=AB=C2=A0Bien g=C3=A9rer son entrepris= e avec Dolibarr=C2=A0=C2=BB pour soci=C3=A9t=C3=A9 de services et consultan= ts est disponible en version b=C3=AAta depuis peu sur le site de sa maison = d=E2=80=99=C3=A9dition d-b= ooker.fr

= =C2=A0

http://www.d-booker.fr/dolibarr/283= -dolibarr-pour-societes-de-services-et-consultants.html

=C2=A0<= /p>

Pour le moment, le livre est dispo= nible en version html, Epub et PDF. Une version papier sera diffus=C3=A9 d= =C3=A8s les derniers correctifs et ajouts termin=C3=A9s =E2=80=93 sortie de= la version finale pr=C3=A9vue aux alentours du DevCamp 2016<= /span>

=C2=A0=

Joyeux Noel =

=C2=A0

Bien cordialement,

Charlie Benke

=C2=A0

=

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=C2=A0

Romain's book "Manage yo= ur business with Dolibarr" for consultants and services companies is n= ow available in beta version on the publisher website<= /p>

=C2=A0

http://www.d-booker.fr/dolibarr/283-dol= ibarr-pour-societes-de-services-et-consultants.html

=C2=A0<= /u>

The book= is available in html, Epub and PDF format for the moment. A paper version = will be released soon, once the latest patches and additions completed - fi= nal version expected around DevCamp 2016

=C2=A0

Merry Christmas

= =C2=A0

Best rega= rds,

Charlie Benke

<= /div>

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--001a1143834638cd5e0527e666db-- From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Dec 29 06:30:07 2015 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1aDsTf-0000Yw-8f for mharc-dolibarr-dev@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2015 06:30:07 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48199) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aDsTa-0000XM-IB for dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2015 06:30:04 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aDsTX-0004Ev-AI for dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2015 06:30:02 -0500 Received: from 7.mo3.mail-out.ovh.net ([46.105.57.200]:36082) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aDsTW-0004Ek-Ua for dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2015 06:29:59 -0500 Received: from mail136.ha.ovh.net (b9.ovh.net [213.186.33.59]) by mo3.mail-out.ovh.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 092F71000728 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2015 12:29:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (HELO queueout) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 29 Dec 2015 13:29:56 +0200 Received: from unknown (HELO charlesPort) (charles.fr@benke.fr@78.250.100.125) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 29 Dec 2015 13:29:53 +0200 From: "Charles Benke" To: "'Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding'" References: <000001d13e56$8a13fb90$9e3bf2b0$@benke.fr> In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 12:29:55 +0100 Message-ID: <000801d1422c$3fd5b760$bf812620$@benke.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01D14234.A19A1F60" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQMyi8Ed7zeCaOPE6sqtUx7PRAdriQIfV3tHnA5FsKA= Content-Language: fr X-Ovh-Tracer-Id: 7976156415091160039 X-Ovh-Remote: 78.250.100.125 () X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-OVH-SPAMSTATE: OK X-OVH-SPAMSCORE: -100 X-OVH-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrfeekiedrheekucetufdoteggodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfqggfjnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmd X-VR-SPAMSTATE: OK X-VR-SPAMSCORE: -100 X-VR-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrfeekiedrheekgddvgecutefuodetggdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuqfggjfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddm X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x (no timestamps) [generic] X-Received-From: 46.105.57.200 Subject: Re: [Dolibarr-dev] Book about Dolibarr X-BeenThere: dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding List-Id: Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 11:30:04 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01D14234.A19A1F60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For the moment the book is in pre-release, that's why we do not want to = communicate more formally =20 Bien cordialement, Charlie Benke =20 De : dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3Dbenke.fr@nongnu.org = [mailto:dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3Dbenke.fr@nongnu.org] De la = part de Laurent Destailleur (aka Eldy) Envoy=C3=A9 : dimanche 27 d=C3=A9cembre 2015 20:43 =C3=80 : Posts about Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding = Objet : Re: [Dolibarr-dev] Book about Dolibarr =20 Note, you can submit a news on dolibarr.fr web = site (menu "submit news" once logged on forum) if book is in french. =20 Le 24 d=C3=A9cembre 2015 =C3=A0 15:22, Charles Benke = > a =C3=A9crit : Hi there, =20 Le livre de Romain =C2=AB Bien g=C3=A9rer son entreprise avec Dolibarr = =C2=BB pour soci=C3=A9t=C3=A9 de services et consultants est disponible = en version b=C3=AAta depuis peu sur le site de sa maison = d=E2=80=99=C3=A9dition d-booker.fr =20 =20 http://www.d-booker.fr/dolibarr/283-dolibarr-pour-societes-de-services-et= -consultants.html =20 Pour le moment, le livre est disponible en version html, Epub et PDF. = Une version papier sera diffus=C3=A9 d=C3=A8s les derniers correctifs et = ajouts termin=C3=A9s =E2=80=93 sortie de la version finale pr=C3=A9vue = aux alentours du DevCamp 2016 =20 Joyeux Noel=20 =20 Bien cordialement,=20 Charlie Benke =20 ------- =20 Romain's book "Manage your business with Dolibarr" for consultants and = services companies is now available in beta version on the publisher = website =20 http://www.d-booker.fr/dolibarr/283-dolibarr-pour-societes-de-services-et= -consultants.html =20 The book is available in html, Epub and PDF format for the moment. A = paper version will be released soon, once the latest patches and = additions completed - final version expected around DevCamp 2016 =20 Merry Christmas =20 Best regards, Charlie Benke _______________________________________________ Dolibarr-dev mailing list Dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org =20 https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dolibarr-dev =20 --=20 EMail: eldy@destailleur.fr =20 Web: http://www.destailleur.fr -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----------- Google+: = https://plus.google.com/+LaurentDestailleur/ Facebook: = https://www.facebook.com/Destailleur.Laurent Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/eldy10 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----------- * Dolibarr (Project leader): http://www.dolibarr.org (make a donation = for Dolibarr project via Paypal: contact@destailleur.fr = ) * AWStats (Author) : http://awstats.sourceforge.net (make a donation for = AWStats project via Paypal: contact@destailleur.fr = ) * AWBot (Author) : http://awbot.sourceforge.net * CVSChangeLogBuilder (Author) : http://cvschangelogb.sourceforge.net =20 =20 _____ =20 Aucun virus trouv=C3=A9 dans ce message. 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For the moment the book is in pre-release, = that's why we do not want to communicate more = formally

 

Bien cordialement,

Charlie Benke

 

De : = dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3Dbenke.fr@nongnu.org = [mailto:dolibarr-dev-bounces+charles.fr=3Dbenke.fr@nongnu.org] De la = part de Laurent Destailleur (aka Eldy)
Envoy=C3=A9 : = dimanche 27 d=C3=A9cembre 2015 20:43
=C3=80 : Posts about = Dolibarr ERP & CRM development and coding = <dolibarr-dev@nongnu.org>
Objet : Re: = [Dolibarr-dev] Book about Dolibarr

 

Note, = you can submit a news on dolibarr.fr = web site (menu "submit news" once logged on forum) if book is = in french.

 

Le 24 = d=C3=A9cembre 2015 =C3=A0 15:22, Charles Benke <charles.fr@benke.fr> a =C3=A9crit = :

Hi there,

 

Le livre de Romain =C2=AB Bien g=C3=A9rer son entreprise avec = Dolibarr =C2=BB pour soci=C3=A9t=C3=A9 de services et consultants = est disponible en version b=C3=AAta depuis peu sur le site de sa maison = d=E2=80=99=C3=A9dition d-booker.fr

 

http://www.d-booker.fr/dolibarr/283-dolibarr-pour-socie= tes-de-services-et-consultants.html

 

Pour le moment, le livre est disponible en version html, Epub et PDF. = Une version papier sera diffus=C3=A9 d=C3=A8s les derniers correctifs et = ajouts termin=C3=A9s =E2=80=93 sortie de la version finale pr=C3=A9vue = aux alentours du DevCamp 2016

 

Joyeux Noel

 

Bien cordialement,

Charlie Benke

 

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Romain's book "Manage your business with Dolibarr" for = consultants and services companies is now available in beta version on = the publisher website

 

http://www.d-booker.fr/dolibarr/283-dolibarr-pour-socie= tes-de-services-et-consultants.html

 

The book is available in html, Epub and PDF format for the moment. A = paper version will be released soon, once the latest patches and = additions completed - final version expected around DevCamp = 2016

 

Merry Christmas

 

Best regards,

Charlie Benke


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