From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Feb 01 05:58:58 2004 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.24) id 1AnFJa-0001jS-Ni for mharc-enigma-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2004 05:58:58 -0500 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AnFJY-0001j1-0K for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2004 05:58:56 -0500 Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AnFJ1-0001fM-2v for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2004 05:58:55 -0500 Received: from [62.67.200.156] (helo=smtprelay01.ispgateway.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AnFJ0-0001f7-KQ for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2004 05:58:22 -0500 Received: (qmail 16057 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2004 10:58:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO HUGO) (066971@[217.184.100.196]) (envelope-sender ) by smtprelay01.ispgateway.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 1 Feb 2004 10:58:18 -0000 Received: from ad.de.doubleclick.com [127.0.0.1] by HUGO (192.168.120.254) with SMTP (Classic Hamster Version 1.3 Build 1.3.22.103) ; Sun, 01 Feb 2004 11:51:39 +0100 From: Ralf Westram Subject: Re: [Enigma-devel] Problem with 0.81 Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 11:57:57 +0100 To: enigma-devel@nongnu.org (Enigma-devel) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200401251840.33367.lengel1@comcast.net> References: <200401251840.33367.lengel1@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 Deutsch (Standard) | Hamster/1.3.22.103 | KorrNews 4.11 Lines: 26 X-BeenThere: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Development ML for Enigma List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 10:58:56 -0000 > I had a problem with -Meditaton- (Level 30 of Enigma pack 2) and I wantd = to > take a screen capture to help clarify my question. When I pressed F10 to > capture as the online manual said, the Enigma window disappeared and my m= ouse > froze. I had to CTRL-ALT-F2 and open a console to kill my kde session to > regain control. Does F10 still work as described? I have the same problem and I tried to track it down with the debugger, but w/o success. Enigma crashes inside a SDL library call, which seems to be ok and seems to work for most users. It occurred the first time after I bought a faster machine - so I guessed it is some timing problem, but adding delays in the surrounding code didn't help. It would be interesting to get more information about your equipment. Possible workaround: It does not or seldom occur, if I press F10 when some text is displayed in the lower part of the screen. Don't ask why. Ralf --=20 Isn't vi that editor with two modes? One that beeps and one that corrupts your files? From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Feb 01 12:49:35 2004 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.24) id 1AnLix-0006kk-Gk for mharc-enigma-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2004 12:49:35 -0500 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AnLiv-0006hu-Fm for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2004 12:49:33 -0500 Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AnLiP-0006Fv-GE for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2004 12:49:32 -0500 Received: from [134.109.132.57] (helo=meg.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AnLiP-0006FZ-4b for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2004 12:49:01 -0500 Received: from marvin.csn.tu-chemnitz.de ([134.109.96.74] ident=postfix) by meg.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1AnLiN-0006AM-PN for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2004 18:48:59 +0100 Received: by marvin.csn.tu-chemnitz.de (Postfix, from userid 500) id A983A8CA7F; Sun, 1 Feb 2004 18:48:59 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 18:48:59 +0100 From: Ingo van Lil To: enigma-devel@nongnu.org Message-ID: <20040201174859.GA1100@marvin.csn.tu-chemnitz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: bf792412a9282b88258c217492ac655a Subject: [Enigma-devel] Laser bug? X-BeenThere: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Development ML for Enigma List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 17:49:34 -0000 Hi there, George's mail yesterday made me aware of a strange effect I noticed before which I think is a bug: Each time there is any change in the path of a laser (e.g. a box is moved into or out of the beam) the complete laser path is recalculated. If there are any laser-convertible objects lying inside the laser beam during recalculation they are once more converted, even if the change shouldn't have any effect on that part of the laser beam that hits them. The effect can easily be reproduced in Enigma 2, level #60 ("Do it yourself"): Pick up a coin, mint it into a 5 cent coin and place it left of the note (do not pick up the note!). Now, if you activate the laser it first hits both the coin and the note, the coin is transformed into a hammer and the note gets burned, then all laser paths are recalculated and the hammer is transformed once more, this time into a sword. From the users point of view the coin was only hit by one single beam, the disappearing note shouldn't have any effect on the other part of the laser. Cheers, Ingo From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Feb 01 15:41:47 2004 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.24) id 1AnOPa-0004Be-St for mharc-enigma-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2004 15:41:46 -0500 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AnOPY-00049I-Ae for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2004 15:41:44 -0500 Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AnOP1-0003fI-3Y for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2004 15:41:42 -0500 Received: from [204.127.202.64] (helo=sccrmhc13.comcast.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AnOP0-0003dE-RP for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2004 15:41:10 -0500 Received: from 192.168.20.200 (pcp05278317pcs.macmb101.mi.comcast.net[68.61.58.166]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <20040201204106016002dam3e>; Sun, 1 Feb 2004 20:41:06 +0000 From: George Lengel To: enigma-devel@nongnu.org (Enigma-devel) Subject: Re: [Enigma-devel] Problem with 0.81 Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 15:41:10 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: <200401251840.33367.lengel1@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200402011541.10732.lengel1@comcast.net> X-BeenThere: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list Reply-To: lengel1@comcast.net List-Id: Development ML for Enigma List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 20:41:44 -0000 On Sunday 01 February 2004 11:57 am, Ralf Westram wrote: > I have the same problem and I tried to track it down with the > debugger, but w/o success. Enigma crashes inside a SDL library call, > which seems to be ok and seems to work for most users. > It occurred the first time after I bought a faster machine - so I > guessed it is some timing problem, but adding delays in the > surrounding code didn't help. > > It would be interesting to get more information about your equipment. K7S5a motherboard using an AGP video card based on an S3 Savage4 chip. I am using Knoppix 3.3 which is kernel 2.4.22 and XFree 4.3.99. My CPU is an Athlon 1400 running at ~ 1 GHz. > > Possible workaround: It does not or seldom occur, if I press F10 when > some text is displayed in the lower part of the screen. Don't ask why. I will try this out. -- George (Worm) Kohlii head. You could have been lava bones. From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Feb 07 11:44:17 2004 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.24) id 1ApVZ3-0001ID-Dn for mharc-enigma-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Feb 2004 11:44:17 -0500 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ApVZ0-0001Fw-Jl for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sat, 07 Feb 2004 11:44:14 -0500 Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ApVYT-0000bA-CM for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sat, 07 Feb 2004 11:44:12 -0500 Received: from [217.12.11.34] (helo=smtp003.mail.ukl.yahoo.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ApVYM-0000YZ-93 for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sat, 07 Feb 2004 11:43:34 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO file) (michihostettler2001@80.218.11.186 with login) by smtp003.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Feb 2004 16:43:32 -0000 From: "Michi Hostettler" To: "Enigma-devel Group" Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 17:43:33 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: [Enigma-devel] bug with st-bumps? X-BeenThere: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Development ML for Enigma List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2004 16:44:15 -0000 hi, the 0.81 windows version doesn't support st-bumps. if i try to load a level that uses this stone type, enigma will not load this level! is this a bug??? michi From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Feb 07 15:11:02 2004 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.24) id 1ApYn8-0004Yi-7F for mharc-enigma-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Feb 2004 15:11:02 -0500 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ApYn6-0004Yb-EO for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sat, 07 Feb 2004 15:11:00 -0500 Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ApYma-00049T-NB for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sat, 07 Feb 2004 15:10:59 -0500 Received: from [217.12.11.33] (helo=smtp002.mail.ukl.yahoo.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ApYma-000488-BZ for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sat, 07 Feb 2004 15:10:28 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO file) (michihostettler2001@80.218.11.186 with login) by smtp002.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Feb 2004 20:10:26 -0000 From: "Michi Hostettler" To: "Enigma-devel Group" Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 21:10:26 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: [Enigma-devel] fl-bridge x,y,a X-BeenThere: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Development ML for Enigma List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2004 20:11:01 -0000 hi all, in the gfx dir, there are graphics for fl-bridgex,fl-bridgey and fl-bridgea. but only fl-bridge will work, resulting a fl-bridgea. how can i make fl-bridgex or fl-bridgey? thanks you, michi From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Feb 07 15:51:54 2004 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.24) id 1ApZQg-0004Kf-Ia for mharc-enigma-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Feb 2004 15:51:54 -0500 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ApZQe-0004KY-BI for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sat, 07 Feb 2004 15:51:52 -0500 Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ApZQ8-0004IS-Me for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sat, 07 Feb 2004 15:51:51 -0500 Received: from [217.12.11.33] (helo=smtp002.mail.ukl.yahoo.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ApZQ8-0004IL-7j for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sat, 07 Feb 2004 15:51:20 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO file) (michihostettler2001@80.218.11.186 with login) by smtp002.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Feb 2004 20:51:18 -0000 From: "Michi Hostettler" To: "Enigma-devel Group" Subject: AW: [Enigma-devel] fl-bridge x,y,a Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 21:51:19 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <40254DDD.8040908@centrum.cz> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-BeenThere: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Development ML for Enigma List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2004 20:51:52 -0000 > -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- > Von: Petr Machata [mailto:ant_39@centrum.cz] > Gesendet: Samstag, 7. Februar 2004 21:43 > An: Michi Hostettler > Betreff: Re: [Enigma-devel] fl-bridge x,y,a > > > Michi Hostettler wrote: > > hi all, > > > > in the gfx dir, there are graphics for fl-bridgex,fl-bridgey > and fl-bridgea. > > but only fl-bridge will work, resulting a fl-bridgea. how can i make > > fl-bridgex or fl-bridgey? > > try this: > set_floor("fl-bridge", x, y, {type="x"}) > set_floor("fl-bridge", x, y, {type="y"}) ok, this works but for developing BlackBallEd, every attribute will increase the difficulty to load and save the level. is ther no other way, such as fl-bridgex or fl-xbridge or so on??? but this is a possibility if there is no other way to get this. michi > > > > > thanks you, > > michi > > Petr Machata > From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Feb 07 18:08:33 2004 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.24) id 1ApbYv-0007cI-Jg for mharc-enigma-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Feb 2004 18:08:33 -0500 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ApbYt-0007c0-Kk for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sat, 07 Feb 2004 18:08:31 -0500 Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ApbYN-0007S4-EK for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sat, 07 Feb 2004 18:08:30 -0500 Received: from [129.206.210.211] (helo=relay2.uni-heidelberg.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ApbYM-0007Rx-Qd for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sat, 07 Feb 2004 18:07:58 -0500 Received: from extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.140]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i17N7uSe015340 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2004 00:07:57 +0100 (MET) Received: (qmail 7876 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2004 23:07:54 -0000 Received: from ?129.206.203.242? (HELO tigger) (129.206.203.242) by extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2004 23:07:55 -0000 Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 23:33:55 +0100 From: Daniel Heck To: enigma-devel@nongnu.org Subject: Re: [Enigma-devel] Laser bug? Message-Id: <20040207233355.671b533f.dheck@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> In-Reply-To: <20040201174859.GA1100@marvin.csn.tu-chemnitz.de> References: <20040201174859.GA1100@marvin.csn.tu-chemnitz.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.6claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Development ML for Enigma List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2004 23:08:32 -0000 Ingo van Lil wrote: > George's mail yesterday made me aware of a strange effect I noticed > before which I think is a bug: Each time there is any change in the > path of a laser (e.g. a box is moved into or out of the beam) the > complete laser path is recalculated. If there are any > laser-convertible objects lying inside the laser beam during > recalculation they are once more converted, even if the change > shouldn't have any effect on that part of the laser beam that hits > them. You are right, it is a bug, albeit one that is a little difficult to resolve. I don't think it renders any of the levels unsolvable, so I won't attempt to fix it before the rest of the game is working correctly. Cheers, Daniel From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Feb 08 17:19:36 2004 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.24) id 1ApxH5-0001Li-FN for mharc-enigma-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Feb 2004 17:19:35 -0500 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ApxH2-0001Hp-Kd for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 08 Feb 2004 17:19:32 -0500 Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ApxGW-00010y-Oo for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 08 Feb 2004 17:19:31 -0500 Received: from [217.12.11.33] (helo=smtp002.mail.ukl.yahoo.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ApxGW-00010k-A5 for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 08 Feb 2004 17:19:00 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO file) (michihostettler2001@80.218.11.186 with login) by smtp002.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Feb 2004 22:18:58 -0000 From: "Michi Hostettler" To: "Enigma-devel Group" , "OxydGroup" Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2004 23:18:59 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Cc: Subject: [Enigma-devel] BlackBallEd 0.80 out! X-BeenThere: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Development ML for Enigma List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2004 22:19:34 -0000 Hi, the new BlackBallEd version 0.80 is out! NEW FEATURES: - supports now ALL actors of enigma - more items, floors and stones of enigma supported (f.e. open bridges or fl-rock1) - some bugs fixed (f.e. connections for fl-bridge) - better (more enigma like) graphics for puzzles and mirrors - Logical Wizzard for fourswitches - the external gfx dir is no more needed (->smaller package) - right click shows only the required attributtes for the selected cell (f.e. only "Interval" for st-timer download the new relase: www.blackballed.uni.cc michi "FilE" hostettler From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Feb 11 17:18:00 2004 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.24) id 1Ar2gB-0000Qq-GP for mharc-enigma-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 17:17:59 -0500 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1Aqhpv-00056j-Nn for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:02:39 -0500 Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AqhpO-0004x9-Ly for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:02:38 -0500 Received: from [62.91.17.164] (helo=legolas.drinsama.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.24) id 1AqhpO-0004sj-2z for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:02:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E14FC4C090 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 01:01:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from legolas.drinsama.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (legolas [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id 12533-03 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 01:01:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from wintermute.xmldesign.de (pD9E4F102.dip.t-dialin.net [217.228.241.2]) by legolas.drinsama.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0799DC4C092 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 01:01:56 +0100 (CET) Received: by wintermute.xmldesign.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CAF54234050; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 01:01:53 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 01:01:53 +0100 From: Erich Schubert To: enigma-devel@nongnu.org Message-ID: <20040211000153.GA4379@wintermute.xmldesign.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-GPG: 4B3A135C 6073 C874 8488 BCDA A6A9 B761 9ED0 78EF 4B3A 135C X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1+cvs20040105i Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p7 (Debian) at mucl.de X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 17:17:55 -0500 Subject: [Enigma-devel] "thumbs" dir and packaging X-BeenThere: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Development ML for Enigma List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 00:02:40 -0000 Hi, i've just started doing a CVS package for debian once again. The "thumbs" dir gives me headaches. On a multi-user system this causes serious security problems. Doing "chmod 777" is not an option (this will allow anybody to pass broken data to enigma, and needs a thoroughly tested image loader!) But using SGID games isn't much better, too. So i still favour one of the two following options: - storing thumbnails in .enigma/thumbs. the space waste is minimal for most installations - pregenerating thumbnails (certainly better if you want enigma to stay on knoppix. ;-) OTOH i havn't looked at how much this is used yet... right now i'm trying to get a working enigma version, i get a segfault in video.cc:317 i need to sort out. Greetings, Erich Schubert --=20 erich@(vitavonni.de|debian.org) -- GPG Key ID: 4B3A135C (o_ Which is worse: ignorance or apathy? Who knows? Who cares? //\ W=E4hrend das Gl=FCck dir lacht, wirst Freunde du z=E4hlen in Menge; = V_/_ wenn sich der Himmel bew=F6lkt, findest du dich bald allein. From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Feb 11 17:18:01 2004 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.24) id 1Ar2gC-0000Rr-9G for mharc-enigma-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 17:18:00 -0500 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1Aqk3V-0000EE-S8 for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 21:24:49 -0500 Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1Aqk2y-00007h-VR for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 21:24:48 -0500 Received: from [62.91.17.164] (helo=legolas.drinsama.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.24) id 1Aqk2y-00006m-CB for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 21:24:16 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34B9CC4C091 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 03:24:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from legolas.drinsama.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (legolas [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id 06762-05 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 03:24:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from wintermute.xmldesign.de (pD9E4F102.dip.t-dialin.net [217.228.241.2]) by legolas.drinsama.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE7FDC4C090 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 03:24:10 +0100 (CET) Received: by wintermute.xmldesign.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 58A3F234050; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 03:24:09 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 03:24:09 +0100 From: Erich Schubert To: enigma-devel@nongnu.org Message-ID: <20040211022409.GA14563@wintermute.xmldesign.de> References: <20040211000153.GA4379@wintermute.xmldesign.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040211000153.GA4379@wintermute.xmldesign.de> X-GPG: 4B3A135C 6073 C874 8488 BCDA A6A9 B761 9ED0 78EF 4B3A 135C X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1+cvs20040105i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p7 (Debian) at mucl.de X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 17:17:55 -0500 Subject: [Enigma-devel] Re: "thumbs" dir and packaging X-BeenThere: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Development ML for Enigma List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 02:24:50 -0000 > OTOH i havn't looked at how much this is used yet... > right now i'm trying to get a working enigma version, i get a segfault > in video.cc:317 i need to sort out. The segfault was caused by menu_bg.jpg not being found for gfx32. Fix is to add $(srcdir)/*.jpg to the pkgdata_DATA variable Keys are broken. If you use them to unlock a lock they don't get removed from your inventory. Since the level pngs are still around, what are "thumbs" for? As i understand the code they are generated when no existing level png was found, correct? Sounds nice for user levels. If that means i don't have to provide a system wide writeable "thumbs" directory that would be ok. Greetings, Erich Schubert P.S. i needed: --- configure.ac -AC_CONFIG_HEADERS([src/config.h]) +AM_CONFIG_HEADER(src/config.h) but the only other patches remaining in my build dirs are 1. lua api difference patch (debian-specific) 2. use the debian-supplied lua and zipios (debian-specific) 3. i disabled the "thumbs" dir, because the install-data-local is broken -- erich@(mucl.de|debian.org) -- GPG Key ID: 4B3A135C (o_ Go away or i'll replace you with a very small shell script. //\ Wer keine Zeit mehr mit echten Freunden verbringt, der wird bald V_/_ sein Gleichgewicht verlieren. --- Michael Levine From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Feb 11 17:18:03 2004 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.24) id 1Ar2gD-0000SH-Hc for mharc-enigma-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 17:18:01 -0500 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AqyCg-0001xy-2r for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 12:31:14 -0500 Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org 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18:30:16 +0100 Message-ID: <1076520616.402a66a84b1b1@webmail1.kuleuven.be> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 18:30:16 +0100 From: Jon Sneyers To: enigma-devel@nongnu.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="-MOQ10765206165ff2448eb5e8c834214f38395fbc1d37" User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2-cvs X-Originating-IP: 10.0.44.43 X-Virus-Scanned: by KULeuven Antivirus Cluster X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 17:17:55 -0500 Subject: [Enigma-devel] some levels X-BeenThere: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Development ML for Enigma List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 17:31:16 -0000 This message is in MIME format. ---MOQ10765206165ff2448eb5e8c834214f38395fbc1d37 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit here are some enigma levels I recently made if you want to, you can include them in the next enigma release (if 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(HELO tigger) (145.254.218.66) by extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de with SMTP; 13 Feb 2004 10:02:10 -0000 Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 10:57:25 +0100 From: Daniel Heck To: enigma-devel@nongnu.org Subject: Re: [Enigma-devel] "thumbs" dir and packaging Message-Id: <20040213105725.758d58d7.dheck@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> In-Reply-To: <20040211000153.GA4379@wintermute.xmldesign.de> References: <20040211000153.GA4379@wintermute.xmldesign.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.6claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Development ML for Enigma List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 10:02:49 -0000 Erich Schubert wrote: > i've just started doing a CVS package for debian once again. I don't know if that's a good idea. The CVS version is pretty flakey at the moment. > The "thumbs" dir gives me headaches. > > On a multi-user system this causes serious security problems. > Doing "chmod 777" is not an option (this will allow anybody to pass > broken data to enigma, and needs a thoroughly tested image loader!) > But using SGID games isn't much better, too. That's one reason why the automatic creation of thumbnails is still disabled by default. > So i still favour one of the two following options: > - storing thumbnails in .enigma/thumbs. the space waste is minimal > for most installations > - pregenerating thumbnails (certainly better if you want enigma to > stay on knoppix. ;-) That's the solution if favour too. But the current solution probably works better on Windows. I currently spend the little time I have for Enigma on laying the groundwork for network games, so I can't promise I will be able to resolve the issue soon, but I've added it to my todo list. Cheers, Daniel From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Feb 13 05:02:56 2004 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.24) id 1Ara9w-0002Vi-95 for mharc-enigma-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 05:02:56 -0500 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1Ara9s-0002Ui-4c for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 05:02:52 -0500 Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1Ara9L-0002Ox-DD for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 05:02:50 -0500 Received: from [129.206.210.211] (helo=relay2.uni-heidelberg.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1Ara9K-0002Oj-UI for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 05:02:19 -0500 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (popix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.235]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i1DA2HSe001584 for ; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 11:02:17 +0100 (MET) Received: from extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.140]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA1081596 for ; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 11:02:16 +0100 Received: (qmail 6896 invoked by uid 0); 13 Feb 2004 10:02:14 -0000 Received: from ?145.254.218.66? (HELO tigger) (145.254.218.66) by extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de with SMTP; 13 Feb 2004 10:02:14 -0000 Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 11:02:58 +0100 From: Daniel Heck To: enigma-devel@nongnu.org Subject: Re: [Enigma-devel] Re: "thumbs" dir and packaging Message-Id: <20040213110258.2d8cb70e.dheck@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> In-Reply-To: <20040211022409.GA14563@wintermute.xmldesign.de> References: <20040211000153.GA4379@wintermute.xmldesign.de> <20040211022409.GA14563@wintermute.xmldesign.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.6claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Development ML for Enigma List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 10:02:53 -0000 Erich Schubert wrote: > > OTOH i havn't looked at how much this is used yet... > > right now i'm trying to get a working enigma version, i get a > > segfault in video.cc:317 i need to sort out. > > The segfault was caused by menu_bg.jpg not being found for gfx32. > Fix is to add $(srcdir)/*.jpg to the pkgdata_DATA variable Thanks > Keys are broken. If you use them to unlock a lock they don't get > removed from your inventory. No, that's intentional. The idea is that you need the key for both unlocking and locking. > Since the level pngs are still around, what are "thumbs" for? > As i understand the code they are generated when no existing level png > was found, correct? Sounds nice for user levels. Yes, that's the idea. > If that means i don't have to provide a system wide writeable "thumbs" > directory that would be ok. Maybe we could use /var/games/enigma/thumbs, but ~/.enigma/thumbs is certainly easier. > -AC_CONFIG_HEADERS([src/config.h]) > +AM_CONFIG_HEADER(src/config.h) That's the syntax for newer Automake/Autoconf versions. I decided to stick with the old syntax because it simplified building the CVS version for users of older distributions. Daniel From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Feb 13 05:02:59 2004 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.24) id 1Ara9z-0002X1-L5 for mharc-enigma-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 05:02:59 -0500 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1Ara9w-0002W1-Vt for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 05:02:56 -0500 Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1Ara9P-0002Pc-KY for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 05:02:54 -0500 Received: from [129.206.210.211] (helo=relay2.uni-heidelberg.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1Ara9P-0002PQ-64 for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 05:02:23 -0500 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (popix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.235]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i1DA2LSe001600 for ; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 11:02:21 +0100 (MET) Received: from extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.140]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA2195640 for ; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 11:02:20 +0100 Received: (qmail 6901 invoked by uid 0); 13 Feb 2004 10:02:18 -0000 Received: from ?145.254.218.66? (HELO tigger) (145.254.218.66) by extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de with SMTP; 13 Feb 2004 10:02:18 -0000 Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 11:05:56 +0100 From: Daniel Heck To: Jon Sneyers Subject: Re: [Enigma-devel] some levels Message-Id: <20040213110556.40d8718c.dheck@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> In-Reply-To: <1076520616.402a66a84b1b1@webmail1.kuleuven.be> References: <1076520616.402a66a84b1b1@webmail1.kuleuven.be> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.6claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-BeenThere: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Development ML for Enigma List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 10:02:58 -0000 Thanks a lot! I hope I will have time to take a closer look at them this weekend. Cheers, Daniel Jon Sneyers wrote: > here are some enigma levels I recently made > if you want to, you can include them in the next enigma release > (if you think some of the levels suck but others are nice, of course > you can just omit the bad ones... and if you think some level could > use some kind of modification, feel free to do so) > > all levels are playtested and should be finishable (i finished them > all except the "tough skyscraper" level, which is kinda hard) > > in the tarball there's also an ordered index of the levels, from easy > to hard (imo) > > keep up the good work! enigma rules! > > greetings, > Jon -- Daniel Heck http://www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~dheck/ From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Feb 13 05:03:29 2004 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.24) id 1AraAT-0002eZ-AY for mharc-enigma-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 05:03:29 -0500 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ArSC9-0003tM-VY for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2004 20:32:41 -0500 Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ArSAs-0003Zi-Tp for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2004 20:32:00 -0500 Received: from [62.212.101.94] (helo=stan.aopsys.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ArSAp-0003Sx-BB for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2004 20:31:19 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by stan.aopsys.com with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1ArRzw-0003Y8-00 for ; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 02:20:04 +0100 To: enigma-devel@nongnu.org From: Laurent Martelli Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 02:20:04 +0100 Message-ID: <87smhfepx7.fsf@stan.aopsys> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) Emacs/20.7 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 05:03:27 -0500 Subject: [Enigma-devel] SDL_Delay X-BeenThere: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Development ML for Enigma List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 01:32:42 -0000 Hi, I'm wondering if there's a good reason to comment the call to SDL_Delay in Game::run() because it as the effect to burn as much CPU cycles as it can. I tried to uncomment the line and all seems to work fine. So is there any good reason why it was commented ? -- Laurent Martelli laurent@aopsys.com Java Aspect Components http://www.aopsys.com/ http://jac.aopsys.com From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Feb 13 06:43:05 2004 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.24) id 1Arbiq-0002zd-NA for mharc-enigma-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 06:43:04 -0500 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1Arbin-0002xL-VT for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 06:43:01 -0500 Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1Arbhk-0002Z0-W3 for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 06:42:28 -0500 Received: from [216.109.118.116] (helo=web60305.mail.yahoo.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ArbhI-0002Lq-TF for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 06:41:28 -0500 Message-ID: <20040213114126.68422.qmail@web60305.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [212.117.102.5] by web60305.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 12:41:26 CET Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 12:41:26 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Michi=20Hostettler?= To: enigma-devel@nongnu.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [Enigma-devel] BBE for linux - testing X-BeenThere: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Development ML for Enigma List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 11:43:03 -0000 Hi, is there anyone who want to test the BBE-linux executable on his linux system. i tested it on mandrake 9.2, but it returned a segmentation fault error (signal 11). mandrake 9.2 gave this signal to other applications too - maybe it's a bug, and not my fault. has someone suse or redhat or debian or any other distribution and want to test the executable,mail me please (michihostettler2001@yahoo.de) michi Mit schönen Grüßen von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Feb 13 07:25:27 2004 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.24) id 1ArcMB-0004Qk-5D for mharc-enigma-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 07:23:43 -0500 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ArcLj-00044Y-T7 for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 07:23:15 -0500 Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ArcJw-0003Ix-MQ for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 07:21:56 -0500 Received: from [134.109.132.57] (helo=meg.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ArcJw-0003Ha-0G for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 07:21:24 -0500 Received: from marvin.csn.tu-chemnitz.de ([134.109.96.74]) by meg.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1ArcJs-0008Hr-Ui; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 13:21:20 +0100 Received: by marvin.csn.tu-chemnitz.de (Postfix, from userid 500) id E7BCE4F2BC; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 13:21:24 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 13:21:24 +0100 From: Ingo van Lil To: Daniel Heck Subject: Re: [Enigma-devel] Re: "thumbs" dir and packaging Message-ID: <20040213122124.GA17632@marvin.csn.tu-chemnitz.de> References: <20040211000153.GA4379@wintermute.xmldesign.de> <20040211022409.GA14563@wintermute.xmldesign.de> <20040213110258.2d8cb70e.dheck@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040213110258.2d8cb70e.dheck@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: b75b3a670525627ec81a7de66e8d9271 Cc: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-BeenThere: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Development ML for Enigma List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 12:23:38 -0000 On 13 Feb 2004, Daniel Heck wrote: > > Keys are broken. If you use them to unlock a lock they don't get > > removed from your inventory. > > No, that's intentional. The idea is that you need the key for both > unlocking and locking. Wouldn't that change break numerous levels, e.g. "Doors Galore"? Cheers, Ingo From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Feb 15 15:30:08 2004 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.24) id 1AsStz-0007F5-PF for mharc-enigma-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Feb 2004 15:30:07 -0500 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AsStw-0007Dr-Tk for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 15 Feb 2004 15:30:04 -0500 Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AsStO-00073t-JD for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 15 Feb 2004 15:30:01 -0500 Received: from [134.109.132.57] (helo=meg.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AsStO-00073a-3V for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 15 Feb 2004 15:29:30 -0500 Received: from marvin.csn.tu-chemnitz.de ([134.109.96.74]) by meg.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1AsStM-0007oP-D4 for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 15 Feb 2004 21:29:28 +0100 Received: by marvin.csn.tu-chemnitz.de (Postfix, from userid 500) id 8DCB65E0CC; Sun, 15 Feb 2004 21:30:14 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 21:30:14 +0100 From: Ingo van Lil To: enigma-devel@nongnu.org Message-ID: <20040215203014.GA7591@marvin.csn.tu-chemnitz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: e3a4f6e1275be1643272008be9fceab0 Subject: [Enigma-devel] CVS: sound.cc changes X-BeenThere: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Development ML for Enigma List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:30:06 -0000 Hi Daniel, you're recent changes to sound.cc in CVS can't be correct: The second argument (volume) of SoundEngine_SDL::play_sound() is integer, yet you multiply it by MIX_MAX_VOLUME afterwards. The volume argument should either be double or it should be multiplied before calling play_sound(). Cheers, Ingo From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Feb 15 19:39:37 2004 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.24) id 1AsWnQ-0008Fg-Jg for mharc-enigma-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Feb 2004 19:39:36 -0500 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AsWnN-0008CL-5k for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 15 Feb 2004 19:39:33 -0500 Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AsWmo-0007hC-Hq for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 15 Feb 2004 19:39:30 -0500 Received: from [129.206.210.211] (helo=relay2.uni-heidelberg.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AsWmO-0007Gz-Ts for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 15 Feb 2004 19:38:33 -0500 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (popix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.235]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i1G0cTSe007083 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2004 01:38:29 +0100 (MET) Received: from extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.140]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA3129460 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2004 01:32:39 +0100 Received: (qmail 29970 invoked by uid 0); 16 Feb 2004 00:32:37 -0000 Received: from ?129.206.203.85? (HELO tigger) (129.206.203.85) by extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de with SMTP; 16 Feb 2004 00:32:37 -0000 Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 01:31:57 +0100 From: Daniel Heck To: enigma-devel@nongnu.org Subject: Re: [Enigma-devel] CVS: sound.cc changes Message-Id: <20040216013157.6dce7b2f.dheck@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> In-Reply-To: <20040215203014.GA7591@marvin.csn.tu-chemnitz.de> References: <20040215203014.GA7591@marvin.csn.tu-chemnitz.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.6claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Development ML for Enigma List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 00:39:34 -0000 > you're recent changes to sound.cc in CVS can't be correct: The second > argument (volume) of SoundEngine_SDL::play_sound() is integer, yet you > multiply it by MIX_MAX_VOLUME afterwards. The volume argument should > either be double or it should be multiplied before calling > play_sound(). Argh, you're right. Thanks, it's fixed. Daniel From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Feb 15 19:59:48 2004 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.24) id 1AsX6d-0003PU-6g for mharc-enigma-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Feb 2004 19:59:27 -0500 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AsX6B-00036s-S8 for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 15 Feb 2004 19:58:59 -0500 Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AsX5J-0002dO-WE for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 15 Feb 2004 19:58:37 -0500 Received: from [204.127.198.35] (helo=rwcrmhc11.comcast.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AsX5J-0002bv-3l for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 15 Feb 2004 19:58:05 -0500 Received: from 192.168.20.200 (pcp05278317pcs.macmb101.mi.comcast.net[68.61.58.166]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <200402160058020130083cfqe>; Mon, 16 Feb 2004 00:58:02 +0000 From: George Lengel To: enigma-devel@nongnu.org Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 19:58:35 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: <20040215203014.GA7591@marvin.csn.tu-chemnitz.de> <20040216013157.6dce7b2f.dheck@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> In-Reply-To: <20040216013157.6dce7b2f.dheck@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200402151958.35699.lengel1@comcast.net> Subject: [Enigma-devel] Alien Glyphs X-BeenThere: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Development ML for Enigma List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 00:59:24 -0000 Hello, Can someone explain the concept of Alien Glyphs? After trying and trying and trying, I could not solve it. I put in each glyph pattern over and over and got nothing. I then cheated and looked at the lua file so I saw the glyph that was needed. How is a user supposed to reach that solution by looking a the other glyphs? I think I am missing something. As an aside, there is a comment above the solution inside the lua file that is supposed to show the correct glyph. However, that does not work. Looking at the long if...and if... and.... statement right after it, f21 is illustrated as a 0 but needs to be a 1 for it to work. -- George Lengel (Worm) "Kohli head. You could have been lava bones. From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Feb 15 20:05:12 2004 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.24) id 1AsXCB-0008Hp-7r for mharc-enigma-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:05:11 -0500 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AsXC3-0008Fl-Vb for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:05:03 -0500 Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AsXBU-0007rD-Sx for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:05:01 -0500 Received: from [129.206.210.211] (helo=relay2.uni-heidelberg.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AsXBU-0007qe-3q for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:04:28 -0500 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (popix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.235]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i1G14PSe010150 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2004 02:04:25 +0100 (MET) Received: from extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.140]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA3358726 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2004 02:04:24 +0100 Received: (qmail 119 invoked by uid 0); 16 Feb 2004 01:04:23 -0000 Received: from ?129.206.203.119? (HELO tigger) (129.206.203.119) by extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de with SMTP; 16 Feb 2004 01:04:23 -0000 Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 02:00:05 +0100 From: Daniel Heck To: enigma-devel@nongnu.org Subject: Re: [Enigma-devel] fl-bridge x,y,a Message-Id: <20040216020005.4a48fd06.dheck@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> In-Reply-To: References: <40254DDD.8040908@centrum.cz> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.6claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Development ML for Enigma List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 01:05:05 -0000 Michi Hostettler wrote: > ok, this works but for developing BlackBallEd, every attribute will > increase the difficulty to load and save the level. is ther no other > way, such as fl-bridgex or fl-xbridge or so on??? The next release will contain many more predefined object names, mainly to simplify level editing and writing level editors. - Daniel From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Feb 15 20:05:15 2004 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.24) id 1AsXCE-0008JS-S8 for mharc-enigma-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:05:14 -0500 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AsXC6-0008HU-IY for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:05:06 -0500 Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AsXBX-0007tm-UK for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:05:03 -0500 Received: from [129.206.210.211] (helo=relay2.uni-heidelberg.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AsXBX-0007t6-9j for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:04:31 -0500 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (popix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.235]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i1G14SSe010156 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2004 02:04:29 +0100 (MET) Received: from extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.140]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA3358728 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2004 02:04:27 +0100 Received: (qmail 124 invoked by uid 0); 16 Feb 2004 01:04:26 -0000 Received: from ?129.206.203.119? (HELO tigger) (129.206.203.119) by extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de with SMTP; 16 Feb 2004 01:04:26 -0000 Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 02:04:18 +0100 From: Daniel Heck To: enigma-devel@nongnu.org Subject: Re: [Enigma-devel] bug with st-bumps? Message-Id: <20040216020418.0a2bce82.dheck@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.6claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Development ML for Enigma List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 01:05:12 -0000 Michi Hostettler wrote: > the 0.81 windows version doesn't support st-bumps. if i try to load a > level that uses this stone type, enigma will not load this level! is > this a bug??? Uh, well, there simply is no such stone in Enigma. So far, at least. There's only a graphics file that was never used. Daniel From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Feb 16 16:50:26 2004 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.24) id 1AsqdG-0003EV-HZ for mharc-enigma-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Feb 2004 16:50:26 -0500 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1Asqd9-00037N-TD for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 16 Feb 2004 16:50:19 -0500 Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AsqcS-0002O2-7w for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 16 Feb 2004 16:50:09 -0500 Received: from [217.12.11.36] (helo=smtp005.mail.ukl.yahoo.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AsqcQ-0002Jl-Mt for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 16 Feb 2004 16:49:34 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO 192.168.1.250) (michihostettler2001@80.218.11.194 with plain) by smtp005.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Feb 2004 21:49:30 -0000 From: FilE To: enigma-devel@nongnu.org Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 22:49:39 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200402162249.39619.michihostettler2001@yahoo.de> Subject: [Enigma-devel] cvs-compiling X-BeenThere: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list Reply-To: michihostettler2001@yahoo.de List-Id: Development ML for Enigma List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 21:50:25 -0000 hi all, using my mandrake 9.2, i can't compile the cvs-version of enigma! when i exec ./configure, the console cant find it! i executed the folowing: aclocal autoconf ./configure but then, ./confgure reported a missing makefile.in in data/fonts. after copying the makefile.in from the 0.81 version, i can't compile zipios++! help me please! michi From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Feb 16 20:43:05 2004 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.24) id 1AsuGO-0004QZ-Gv for mharc-enigma-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Feb 2004 20:43:04 -0500 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AsuGD-00048B-7s for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 16 Feb 2004 20:42:53 -0500 Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AsuFW-0003gJ-TI for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 16 Feb 2004 20:42:42 -0500 Received: from [62.91.17.164] (helo=legolas.drinsama.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.24) id 1AsuFW-0003g7-II for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 16 Feb 2004 20:42:10 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88E45C4C090; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 02:42:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from legolas.drinsama.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (legolas [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id 28536-10; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 02:42:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from wintermute.xmldesign.de (p508015EB.dip.t-dialin.net [80.128.21.235]) by legolas.drinsama.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71DAEC4C08E; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 02:42:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (wintermute.xmldesign.de [127.0.0.1]) by wintermute.xmldesign.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA6762341A0; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 02:42:05 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [Enigma-devel] Re: "thumbs" dir and packaging From: Erich Schubert To: dheck@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de In-Reply-To: 20040213110258.2d8cb70e.dheck@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Debian GNU/Linux Developers Message-Id: <1076982124.4059.66.camel@wintermute.xmldesign.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 02:42:05 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p7 (Debian) at mucl.de Cc: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-BeenThere: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Development ML for Enigma List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 01:42:56 -0000 The new key behaviour makes several levels way to easy (you only need to get a single key and can use it to unlock several locks) "ZigZag" doesn't work for me in CVS. I couldn't solve barry03, "Tool-Time". How do i enter the box on the upper right screen in the lower right corner? I need both a sword and a hammer, but i have only one and i can enter only once. The lua file defines an open-close button but that isn't placed on the map. I don't like the other barry0x levels, they are unfair. You have to resort to retrying everything without any clues. "Doors Galore", is that playable or will it need a compatibility option? If moving the box wouldn't trigger the bomb i think i can do that level. Greetings, Erich Schubert -- erich@(vitavonni.de|debian.org) -- GPG Key ID: 4B3A135C (o_ Which is worse: ignorance or apathy? Who knows? Who cares? //\ "Wissen ist Macht" - wenn man das richtige daraus macht. V_/_ From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Feb 16 22:14:06 2004 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.24) id 1AsvgU-0004l1-Gi for mharc-enigma-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Feb 2004 22:14:06 -0500 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AsvgR-0004kB-PQ for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 16 Feb 2004 22:14:03 -0500 Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1Asvfu-0004cE-2m for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 16 Feb 2004 22:14:01 -0500 Received: from [64.4.18.82] (helo=hotmail.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1Asvft-0004aR-NP for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 16 Feb 2004 22:13:29 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 16 Feb 2004 19:13:27 -0800 Received: from 65.40.77.65 by law12-oe25.law12.hotmail.com with DAV; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 03:13:26 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.40.77.65] X-Originating-Email: [unknown_kev_cat@hotmail.com] X-Sender: unknown_kev_cat@hotmail.com From: "Tacvek" To: Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 22:13:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Feb 2004 03:13:27.0258 (UTC) FILETIME=[02D343A0:01C3F504] Subject: [Enigma-devel] Guide Status: Still on hold X-BeenThere: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Development ML for Enigma List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 03:14:04 -0000 The guide to compiling enigma under windows using cygwin is still on hold, as things at savannah have still not returned to normal. However, today I figured out the correct way to pakage the SDL libs, which brings the size of the file to accompany the guide from ~4 MB iirc, to only 500KB. This I happened to discover by looking at cygwin's generic-build-script, and will greatly reduce the hastle of maintaining that file. As soon as things return to normal the guide will be published... I only fear that this mess has *not* delayed development of enigma. From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Feb 17 12:09:22 2004 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.24) id 1At8io-0005pc-GH for mharc-enigma-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 12:09:22 -0500 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1At8ik-0005on-GN for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 12:09:18 -0500 Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1At8iD-0005du-RB for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 12:09:16 -0500 Received: from [134.109.132.38] (helo=tom.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1At8iD-0005df-I2 for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 12:08:45 -0500 Received: from marvin.csn.tu-chemnitz.de ([134.109.96.74]) by tom.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1At8iB-0004Ra-K9; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 18:08:43 +0100 Received: by marvin.csn.tu-chemnitz.de (Postfix, from userid 500) id 1EBD466162; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 18:09:39 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 18:09:38 +0100 From: Ingo van Lil To: Jon Sneyers Subject: Re: [Enigma-devel] some levels Message-ID: <20040217170938.GA3222@marvin.csn.tu-chemnitz.de> References: <1076520616.402a66a84b1b1@webmail1.kuleuven.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1076520616.402a66a84b1b1@webmail1.kuleuven.be> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: e12d97d61532ad8cf10729288984e4c0 Cc: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-BeenThere: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Development ML for Enigma List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 17:09:19 -0000 On 11 Feb 2004, Jon Sneyers wrote: > here are some enigma levels I recently made I just tried them, a few comments: (Counter)Clockwise: Maybe a bit lengthy Hurry!: Too easy. If you trigger the impulse just once, wait for all the walkers to reach their goals and then trigger the impulses again the door stays open and there's no more need to hurry. Lotsa Triggers: OK. Annoying little balls: Fun! My favourite. Impossible?: Haven't figured that one out yet. For the time being I'll call it "Impossible.". ;-) Bridge Builders: Good. Easy Skyscraper: Nice. Spiral Race: Hard but good. Block its way!: No idea yet. Little Puzzles: Takes quite long to finish, but I liked it. - Meditation -: Good. Tough Skyscraper: Good. Big Adventures: Haven't finished it yet, but the first few screens were quite cool. All in all, maybe you shouldn't put your girlfriend's name in so often. > all levels are playtested and should be finishable (i finished them all > except the "tough skyscraper" level, which is kinda hard) Really? I made it on the third try. I consider "Spiral Race" a great deal harder. Cheers, Ingo From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Feb 18 08:48:24 2004 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.24) id 1AtS3o-0006XM-Gq for mharc-enigma-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Feb 2004 08:48:20 -0500 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AtS3R-00064L-Vc for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 18 Feb 2004 08:47:58 -0500 Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AtS2j-0005kh-J0 for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 18 Feb 2004 08:47:44 -0500 Received: from [134.109.132.38] (helo=tom.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AtS02-0004Ik-Ra for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 18 Feb 2004 08:44:26 -0500 Received: from marvin.csn.tu-chemnitz.de ([134.109.96.74]) by tom.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1AtS00-00044q-OG; Wed, 18 Feb 2004 14:44:24 +0100 Received: by marvin.csn.tu-chemnitz.de (Postfix, from userid 500) id 0DB5165C7D; Wed, 18 Feb 2004 14:45:36 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 14:45:35 +0100 From: Ingo van Lil To: FilE Subject: Re: [Enigma-devel] cvs-compiling Message-ID: <20040218134535.GA1731@marvin.csn.tu-chemnitz.de> References: <200402162249.39619.michihostettler2001@yahoo.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200402162249.39619.michihostettler2001@yahoo.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 8a8fa125b9cc748093f12ed7809f170b Cc: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-BeenThere: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Development ML for Enigma List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 13:48:16 -0000 On 16 Feb 2004, FilE wrote: > using my mandrake 9.2, i can't compile the cvs-version of enigma! when i exec > ./configure, the console cant find it! > i executed the folowing: > aclocal > autoconf > ./configure The correct commands are: ./autogen.sh ./configure make Cheers, Ingo From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Feb 18 10:18:03 2004 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.24) id 1AtTSc-0002fF-Jn for mharc-enigma-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Feb 2004 10:18:02 -0500 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AtTSU-0002XF-3i for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 18 Feb 2004 10:17:54 -0500 Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AtTQS-0001pk-5w for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 18 Feb 2004 10:16:19 -0500 Received: from [62.91.17.164] (helo=legolas.drinsama.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.24) id 1AtTPt-0001VY-Oc for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 18 Feb 2004 10:15:14 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68B09C4C092 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2004 16:15:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from legolas.drinsama.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (legolas [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id 29774-02 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2004 16:15:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from wintermute.xmldesign.de (pD9E4FC02.dip.t-dialin.net [217.228.252.2]) by legolas.drinsama.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29F51C4C091 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2004 16:15:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (wintermute.xmldesign.de [127.0.0.1]) by wintermute.xmldesign.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A2812341A0 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2004 16:15:06 +0100 (CET) From: Erich Schubert To: enigma-devel@nongnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Organization: Debian GNU/Linux Developers Message-Id: <1077117306.22043.160.camel@wintermute.xmldesign.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 16:15:06 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p7 (Debian) at mucl.de Subject: [Enigma-devel] Splitting Enigma in data- and code parts? X-BeenThere: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Development ML for Enigma List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 15:17:57 -0000 Hi, those following debian bugtracking will have noticed that after months with no open bug, the "enigma" package got a new bug opened. Basically this bug suggests to split the "enigma" package (which is at 4.5 MB for each of the currently 11 architectures in debian main) So splitting the package into arch-dependant and independant parts could save up to 40 MB for the mirrors. I'm going to do this split with the next upload, but i'd like to know your opinions especially WRT future developments. First question: Will there be a new stable enigma release in the near future? I.e. should i start packaging enigma CVS snapshots or first try to push a split version of 0.81 into debian testing (aka upcoming "sarge") The unsplit enigma package has been in "sarge" for a long time, and unless something serious arises with it's dependencies that will not change. I have a working enigma CVS package as of 20040210 here. There is no urgent "need" to have a split package. Second question: Will there be split upstream tarballs? Debian maintainers usually try to use the upstream source tarball. This makes it easier for third-parties to use the same tarball and this might save download time for people using multiple systems (i.e. they can re-use the tarball for gentoo, freebsd, ...) OTOH, debian packages coming from the same source tarball can only be updated at the same time. This means that to add new levels i'll have to update the tarball and the enigma engine will be recompiled, too. This gives basically three choices: 1. don't care for recompiling the engine needlessly 2. use "official" split tarballs by upstream 3. use own split tarballs (for CVS this is easy) Currently i don't see the need to do so, albeit having split data and engine tarballs would be nice for updating them independently. Third question: How far should the split go? I can split into enigma-engine and enigma-data. That is the obvious way to go and solves these "unneccessary duplication of data" issues. But i could also split data into graphics, sound, individual level packs and even separate level-preview packages. This would allow a more fine-grained installation by the user. Greetings, Erich Schubert --=20 erich@(vitavonni.de|debian.org) -- GPG Key ID: 4B3A135C (o_ Go away or i'll replace you with a very small shell script. //\ Das gr=C3=B6=C3=9Fte Hindernis beim Erkennen der Wahrheit ist nicht di= e V_/_ Falschheit, sondern die Halbwahrheit. --- L. N. Tolstoi From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Feb 18 19:17:16 2004 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.24) id 1AtbrT-0004co-K9 for mharc-enigma-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Feb 2004 19:16:15 -0500 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1Atb7t-0004Vv-6T for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 18 Feb 2004 18:29:09 -0500 Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1Atas7-0007JU-Jw for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 18 Feb 2004 18:13:23 -0500 Received: from [62.91.17.164] (helo=legolas.drinsama.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.24) id 1Atas6-0007Hl-6x for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 18 Feb 2004 18:12:50 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58B31C4C091 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2004 00:12:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from legolas.drinsama.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (legolas [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id 07816-09 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2004 00:12:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from wintermute.xmldesign.de (pD9E4FC02.dip.t-dialin.net [217.228.252.2]) by legolas.drinsama.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F445C4C08E for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2004 00:12:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (wintermute.xmldesign.de [127.0.0.1]) by wintermute.xmldesign.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE8E02341A0 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2004 00:12:43 +0100 (CET) From: Erich Schubert To: enigma-devel@nongnu.org In-Reply-To: <1077117306.22043.160.camel@wintermute.xmldesign.de> References: <1077117306.22043.160.camel@wintermute.xmldesign.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Organization: Debian GNU/Linux Developers Message-Id: <1077145963.22043.245.camel@wintermute.xmldesign.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 00:12:43 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p7 (Debian) at mucl.de Subject: [Enigma-devel] Re: Splitting Enigma in data- and code parts? X-BeenThere: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Development ML for Enigma List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 00:16:13 -0000 Hi, i've build CVS packages from a single tarball which are split into arch-dependant (3.7 MB) and arch-independant data (5.5 MB). A few bugs i encountered: - sometimes i don't respawn, the clock just keep counting on (noticed for example on brittle floor and vesuv) i think this happens only when no more lives are left. (noticed it in "the safe", too) - pressing the right mouse button in the editor crashed enigma The "skip to next unsolved level" button was nice, i missed it. The 640x480 resolution, is it really needed? Are there many machines you can play enigma on at 640x480 but not at 800x600? I'm considering making enigma-gfx640 and enigma-gfx800 packages and only require one of them to be installed, if enigma could auto-detect the available video modes accordingly. Greetings, Erich Schubert --=20 erich@(vitavonni.de|debian.org) -- GPG Key ID: 4B3A135C (o= _ A man doesn't know what he knows until he knows what he doesn't know. //= \ Das gr=C3=B6=C3=9Fte Hindernis beim Erkennen der Wahrheit ist nicht = die V_/_ Falschheit, sondern die Halbwahrheit. --- L. N. Tolstoi From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Feb 20 03:32:20 2004 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.30) id 1Au655-00038N-Tl for mharc-enigma-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 03:32:19 -0500 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1Au377-0005En-UX for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 00:22:13 -0500 Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1Au36N-0004at-N2 for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 00:22:00 -0500 Received: from [207.178.128.19] (helo=mail.iswest.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Au36N-0004Y1-2k for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 00:21:27 -0500 Received: from dsc04-lai-ca-199-182-38-230.rasserver.net ([199.182.38.230] helo=iswest.com) by mail.iswest.com with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1Au38C-000ISG-00 for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 19 Feb 2004 21:23:21 -0800 Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 21:23:29 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed From: Jan Webber To: enigma-devel@nongnu.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 03:32:17 -0500 Subject: [Enigma-devel] download from personal web page is not working X-BeenThere: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Development ML for Enigma List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 05:22:21 -0000 After asking for the Mac OSX download from Daniel's personal web page, I got a text file that was largely Greek characters, and not at all useful. Please let me know, if possible, when I can get Enigma; I have a copy of Oxyd which I dearly love, but it is unplayable on my new Mac. Thank you for your efforts in keeping these games available. Jan Webber From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Feb 21 09:46:02 2004 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.30) id 1AuYOI-0005Vz-24 for mharc-enigma-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 09:46:02 -0500 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1Au9ou-0005PQ-6T for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 07:31:52 -0500 Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1Au9jC-0002fR-Gw for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 07:26:30 -0500 Received: from [137.222.10.72] (helo=dirf.bris.ac.uk) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Au9jB-0002dc-FM for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 07:25:57 -0500 Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk by dirf.bris.ac.uk with SMTP-PRIV with ESMTP; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:25:39 +0000 Received: from s86-8.nomadic.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.86.8] helo=morat.gataki.co.uk) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1Au9iK-0005cz-34 for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:25:04 +0000 Received: by morat.gataki.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 501) id B74DB197961; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:25:03 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:25:03 +0000 From: "A. S. Budden" To: enigma-devel@nongnu.org Message-ID: <20040220122503.GC2865@morat> Mail-Followup-To: "A. S. Budden" , enigma-devel@nongnu.org References: <20031231145809.GA3183@morat> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031231145809.GA3183@morat> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i-nntp3 X-GPG-Key: http://gataki.co.uk/gpgkey_al.asc X-GPG-Fingerprint: 3B17 EB88 6667 911A 82DA FB23 9956 1720 C1E9 0DFB X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 09:45:59 -0500 Subject: [Enigma-devel] Re: nongnu.org: Latest Version of Enigma X-BeenThere: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Development ML for Enigma List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:31:54 -0000 In case anyone's interested, I managed to get the Mandrake RPMs in the end. They're at ftp://ftp.gnu.org/savannah/files/enigma/ with all the other releases (Mac OS X etc). Hope that helps someone, Al (P.S. I'm not subscribed to this list!) Thus spake A. S. Budden: > Hi there, > > I just tried to download enigma from the www.nongnu.org/enigma website, > but all the download links I tried seem to be broken. I can get an old > version from rpmfind.net, but not the latest. > > I'm keen to get 0.81 for Mandrake and for Windows. Does anyone know > where they can be found? > > Please reply to me in person (or CC me) as I am not subscribed to the > list. > > Many thanks, > > Al From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Feb 21 09:46:03 2004 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.30) id 1AuYOI-0005W4-L0 for mharc-enigma-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 09:46:02 -0500 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1AuUqZ-00072J-Oo for enigma-devel@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 05:58:59 -0500 Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1AuUpu-0006fi-75 for enigma-devel@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 05:58:55 -0500 Received: from [213.165.64.20] (helo=mail.gmx.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1AuUpt-0006dy-Nq for enigma-devel@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 05:58:17 -0500 Received: (qmail 15430 invoked by uid 65534); 21 Feb 2004 10:58:13 -0000 Received: from pD9E3D3D0.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO [217.227.211.208]) (217.227.211.208) by mail.gmx.net (mp023) with SMTP; 21 Feb 2004 11:58:13 +0100 X-Authenticated: #2348060 In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v612) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Johannes Fortmann Subject: Re: [Enigma-devel] download from personal web page is not working Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 11:58:11 +0100 To: Jan Webber X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.1 (v33, 10.3) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.612) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 09:45:59 -0500 Cc: enigma-devel@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org X-BeenThere: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Development ML for Enigma List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 10:59:02 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Am 20. Feb 2004 um 06:23 schrieb Jan Webber: > After asking for the Mac OSX download from Daniel's personal web page, > I got a text file that was largely Greek characters, and not at all > useful. Please let me know, if possible, when I can get Enigma; I > have a copy of Oxyd which I dearly love, but it is unplayable on my > new Mac. > Indeed, I could verify this problem. It seems that Safari doesn't automatically save .bz2 files to disk in all cases. As a workaround, you can hold the option (alt) key while clicking the link; the file will be automatically downloaded then. To Daniel: could this be a problem with the web server (wrong MIME type or something)? Safari auto-saves the other .bz2 archives I tried, e.g. from kernel.org. Greetings, Johannes -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (Darwin) iD8DBQFANznEgVISPpHJp2kRAjYOAKDkaEN4DUyH76qJ3VoUZNmE8VdUZACdEEn0 oa7YbfzadQaRj40QY15PYVA= =Qbbw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Feb 21 14:03:54 2004 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.30) id 1AucPp-0008I3-IZ for mharc-enigma-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 14:03:53 -0500 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1AucPj-00082W-4s for enigma-devel@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 14:03:47 -0500 Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1AucP7-0006mZ-Nd for enigma-devel@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 14:03:41 -0500 Received: from [213.165.64.20] (helo=mail.gmx.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1AucP6-0006hu-VU for enigma-devel@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 14:03:09 -0500 Received: (qmail 32289 invoked by uid 65534); 21 Feb 2004 19:03:04 -0000 Received: from pD9E3DD99.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO [217.227.221.153]) (217.227.221.153) by mail.gmx.net (mp027) with SMTP; 21 Feb 2004 20:03:04 +0100 X-Authenticated: #2348060 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v612) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <93637930-64A0-11D8-B1B7-00039363D100@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: enigma-devel@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org From: Johannes Fortmann Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 20:03:03 +0100 X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.1 (v33, 10.3) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.612) Cc: Subject: [Enigma-devel] Networking X-BeenThere: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Development ML for Enigma List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 19:03:51 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, since I've got some free time now (Semesterferien), I'd like to know what the current state of planning is wrt/ network support. I have some experience with networked apps (simple socket sending stuff, excuse the alliteration), but I've never 'networkized' a whole game; however, I'd be really interested in trying/helping. Daniel: Since in one of your last mails you mentioned "laying the groundwork for network games", what have you planned? How can I help? BTW: There's a review in this weeks c't magazine; doesn't say much more than the blurb on our homepage, though. Greetings, Johannes -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (Darwin) iD8DBQFAN6togVISPpHJp2kRAqCyAKDBfuRW+dczbiTGZ57MXNRLG4ZnmwCg5HC6 39pRcMBEWF4l3MIdXrZ2kL4= =RKgS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Feb 21 16:12:28 2004 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.30) id 1AueQG-0006sP-7u for mharc-enigma-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 16:12:28 -0500 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1AueQD-0006sC-VA for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 16:12:25 -0500 Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1AuePh-0006q6-2R for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 16:12:25 -0500 Received: from [129.206.210.211] (helo=relay2.uni-heidelberg.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1AuePg-0006q3-Kf for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 16:11:52 -0500 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (popix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.235]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i1LLBnSe016264 for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 22:11:49 +0100 (MET) Received: from extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.140]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA2130156 for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 22:11:47 +0100 Received: (qmail 951 invoked by uid 0); 21 Feb 2004 21:11:45 -0000 Received: from ?145.254.224.144? (HELO tigger) (145.254.224.144) by extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de with SMTP; 21 Feb 2004 21:11:45 -0000 Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 22:12:53 +0100 From: Daniel Heck To: enigma-devel@nongnu.org Subject: Re: [Enigma-devel] Splitting Enigma in data- and code parts? Message-Id: <20040221221253.3a517b52.dheck@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> In-Reply-To: <1077117306.22043.160.camel@wintermute.xmldesign.de> References: <1077117306.22043.160.camel@wintermute.xmldesign.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.6claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Development ML for Enigma List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 21:12:26 -0000 Erich Schubert wrote: > Will there be a new stable enigma release in the near future? Probably not. The current CVS version is not too bad, but there are many small glitches that take some more time to fix. > I.e. should i start packaging enigma CVS snapshots or first try to > push a split version of 0.81 into debian testing (aka upcoming > "sarge") The unsplit enigma package has been in "sarge" for a long > time, and unless something serious arises with it's dependencies that > will not change. I have a working enigma CVS package as of 20040210 > here. There is no urgent "need" to have a split package. Do as you like. Maybe a CVS snapshot would increase the visibility of Enigma and maybe even help recruit new developers, maybe it would only generate a flood of bug reports... > Second question: > Will there be split upstream tarballs? Some day, hopefully, yes. It's currently not a priority for me, so don't expect them in the immediate future. > Third question: > How far should the split go? > I can split into enigma-engine and enigma-data. That is the obvious > way to go and solves these "unneccessary duplication of data" issues. Sounds like a good starting point. - Daniel From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Feb 21 16:12:33 2004 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.30) id 1AueQK-0006tQ-I0 for mharc-enigma-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 16:12:32 -0500 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1AueQG-0006sh-Qn for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 16:12:28 -0500 Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1AuePk-0006qZ-OA for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 16:12:27 -0500 Received: from [129.206.100.212] (helo=relay.uni-heidelberg.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1AuePk-0006qW-9o for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 16:11:56 -0500 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (popix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.235]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i1LLBqiv021297 for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 22:11:52 +0100 (MET) Received: from extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.140]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA2654446 for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 22:11:51 +0100 Received: (qmail 959 invoked by uid 0); 21 Feb 2004 21:11:50 -0000 Received: from ?145.254.224.144? (HELO tigger) (145.254.224.144) by extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de with SMTP; 21 Feb 2004 21:11:50 -0000 Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 22:15:58 +0100 From: Daniel Heck To: enigma-devel@nongnu.org Subject: Re: [Enigma-devel] Re: Splitting Enigma in data- and code parts? Message-Id: <20040221221558.0ad5ac30.dheck@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> In-Reply-To: <1077145963.22043.245.camel@wintermute.xmldesign.de> References: <1077117306.22043.160.camel@wintermute.xmldesign.de> <1077145963.22043.245.camel@wintermute.xmldesign.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.6claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Development ML for Enigma List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 21:12:30 -0000 Erich Schubert wrote: > Hi, > i've build CVS packages from a single tarball which are split into > arch-dependant (3.7 MB) and arch-independant data (5.5 MB). > A few bugs i encountered: > - sometimes i don't respawn, the clock just keep counting on (noticed > for example on brittle floor and vesuv) i think this happens only > when no more lives are left. (noticed it in "the safe", too) Yes, I know > - pressing the right mouse button in the editor crashed enigma Better disable the level editor if you release a CVS snapshot; it doesn't work at all. > The "skip to next unsolved level" button was nice, i missed it. You can still use F5. Is there a better solution? > The 640x480 resolution, is it really needed? Are there many machines > you can play enigma on at 640x480 but not at 800x600? I'm considering > making enigma-gfx640 and enigma-gfx800 packages and only require one > of them to be installed, if enigma could auto-detect the available > video modes accordingly. 800x600 works, but it's still flaky. And 640x480 works better on slower (<=500MHz) machines. - Daniel From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Feb 22 15:05:13 2004 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.30) id 1Auzqh-0000Z4-Vh for mharc-enigma-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 15:05:11 -0500 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1AuzqM-00005C-QK for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 15:04:50 -0500 Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1AuzpQ-000736-Ib for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 15:04:25 -0500 Received: from [129.206.210.211] (helo=relay2.uni-heidelberg.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1AuzpN-000714-55 for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 15:03:49 -0500 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (popix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.235]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i1MK3iSe005344 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 21:03:44 +0100 (MET) Received: from extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.140]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA1917086 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 21:03:44 +0100 Received: (qmail 18440 invoked by uid 0); 22 Feb 2004 20:03:43 -0000 Received: from ?145.254.219.15? (HELO tigger) (145.254.219.15) by extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de with SMTP; 22 Feb 2004 20:03:43 -0000 Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 20:55:16 +0100 From: Daniel Heck To: enigma-devel@nongnu.org Subject: Re: [Enigma-devel] download from personal web page is not working Message-Id: <20040222205516.5c308cc5.dheck@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.6claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Development ML for Enigma List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 20:05:10 -0000 Johannes Fortmann wrote: > To Daniel: could this be a problem with the web server (wrong MIME > type or something)? Safari auto-saves the other > .bz2 archives I tried, e.g. from kernel.org. Might be. I tried to upload new (signed) packages to savannah last night, but I did not succeed. Maybe there's a problem with my GPG configuration, I don't know. Daniel From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Feb 22 15:05:52 2004 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.30) id 1AuzrF-0001Ip-Se for mharc-enigma-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 15:05:45 -0500 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1AuzqO-00008M-25 for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 15:04:52 -0500 Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1Auzpc-0007OJ-HB for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 15:04:36 -0500 Received: from [129.206.100.212] (helo=relay.uni-heidelberg.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1AuzpV-0007Bn-Pb for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 15:04:02 -0500 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (popix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.235]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i1MK3riv021627 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 21:03:54 +0100 (MET) Received: from extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.140]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA2752520 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 21:03:52 +0100 Received: (qmail 18450 invoked by uid 0); 22 Feb 2004 20:03:51 -0000 Received: from ?145.254.219.15? (HELO tigger) (145.254.219.15) by extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de with SMTP; 22 Feb 2004 20:03:51 -0000 Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 21:05:02 +0100 From: Daniel Heck To: "A. S. Budden" Subject: Re: [Enigma-devel] Re: nongnu.org: Latest Version of Enigma Message-Id: <20040222210502.029b49c8.dheck@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> In-Reply-To: <20040220122503.GC2865@morat> References: <20031231145809.GA3183@morat> <20040220122503.GC2865@morat> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.6claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-BeenThere: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Development ML for Enigma List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 20:05:43 -0000 A. S. Budden wrote: > In case anyone's interested, I managed to get the Mandrake RPMs in the > end. They're at ftp://ftp.gnu.org/savannah/files/enigma/ with all the > other releases (Mac OS X etc). I know, but I have no way of verifiying that these packages have not been modified when the nongnu.org server was cracked last autumn. I think it's unlikely that they have been modified, but I'm not sure: use them at your own risk. Daniel From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Feb 22 15:06:21 2004 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.30) id 1AuzrM-0001U3-1n for mharc-enigma-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 15:05:52 -0500 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1Auzqd-0000QE-5l for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 15:05:07 -0500 Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1Auzpm-0007W9-9b for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 15:04:47 -0500 Received: from [129.206.100.212] (helo=relay.uni-heidelberg.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1AuzpF-0006mt-1c for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 15:03:41 -0500 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (popix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.235]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i1MK3biv021565 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 21:03:37 +0100 (MET) Received: from extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.140]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA2916466 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 21:03:36 +0100 Received: (qmail 18430 invoked by uid 0); 22 Feb 2004 20:03:35 -0000 Received: from ?145.254.219.15? (HELO tigger) (145.254.219.15) by extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de with SMTP; 22 Feb 2004 20:03:35 -0000 Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 20:34:24 +0100 From: Daniel Heck To: enigma-devel@nongnu.org Subject: Re: [Enigma-devel] Networking Message-Id: <20040222203424.3f1ca94c.dheck@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> In-Reply-To: <93637930-64A0-11D8-B1B7-00039363D100@gmx.de> References: <93637930-64A0-11D8-B1B7-00039363D100@gmx.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.6claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Development ML for Enigma List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 20:05:45 -0000 Johannes Fortmann wrote: > Daniel: Since in one of your last mails you mentioned "laying the > groundwork for network games", what have you planned? I don't have any concrete plans, only a couple of rough ideas. In the last few weeks I started to separate the code more cleanly into "server" and "client" functionality. It's not nearly finished, though. > How can I help? Converting the current code base is a huge task, we can only do it step by step. Here's a rough list of small steps needed: - Choose a suitable networking library. My favourite is enet (enet.cubik.org), but SDL_net might also be an option. - Integrate the library into the Enigma configure script / Makefiles - Add basic support for message passing, both using a memory buffer (for local games) or using a network connection if present - Add a --dedicated command line options that starts Enigma as a standalone server (we can later remove it, but I think it's useful for testing purposes) - rework world.cc to properly handle multiple physical players - changing models and starting animations should probably handled on the client-side, so we need a way to transfer an object's state variables. (My idea is that the client can run exactly the same code as the server but usually not change the game state. The game state on the client-side can only be modified by messages from the server.) - Convert all objects to properly sync their state over the network - Add menu buttons for starting/joining a network game - ... lots of changes I cannot forsee at the moment If you want to help, choose any of these tasks and "just do it". Or propose better solutions to particular problems. I have no experience writing network games, so I definitely could use some help. Cheers, Daniel From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Feb 24 04:04:25 2004 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.30) id 1AvYT7-000242-8O for mharc-enigma-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Feb 2004 04:03:09 -0500 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1AvYSV-0001s4-W4 for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 24 Feb 2004 04:02:31 -0500 Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1AvYR9-0001MN-QX for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 24 Feb 2004 04:01:39 -0500 Received: from [62.91.17.164] (helo=legolas.drinsama.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.30) id 1AvYR8-0001J4-P6 for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 24 Feb 2004 04:01:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9E35C4C093 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 2004 10:00:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from legolas.drinsama.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (legolas [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id 24428-09 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 2004 10:00:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from wintermute.xmldesign.de (pD958F793.dip.t-dialin.net [217.88.247.147]) by legolas.drinsama.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 903FBC4D5E8 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 2004 10:00:48 +0100 (CET) Received: by wintermute.xmldesign.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 71D2D2341DA; Mon, 23 Feb 2004 21:19:01 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 21:19:01 +0100 From: Erich Schubert To: enigma-devel@nongnu.org Message-ID: <20040223201901.GA22444@wintermute.xmldesign.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-GPG: 4B3A135C 6073 C874 8488 BCDA A6A9 B761 9ED0 78EF 4B3A 135C X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1+cvs20040105i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p7 (Debian) at mucl.de Subject: [Enigma-devel] Enigma "reviewed" in c't magazine X-BeenThere: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Development ML for Enigma List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 09:02:52 -0000 Hi, i just wanted to note that enigma has been reviewed in the latest issue of the c't magazine (05/2004, page 224). This is really cool: It is the first time i noticed a free game being listed on that (very small, just 2 pages) games section in this magazine. The c't magazine (from heise) is probably the highest rated german computer technics magazine, not a games magazine. The review is fair: it mentions oxyd and some of the difficulties you face; enigma gets a good score for addictiveness, but a low score for the graphics ("not attractive for today requirements") I guess they discovered enigma while making the knoppix version they gave out with the previous magazine. ;-) Greetings, Erich Schubert -- erich@(vitavonni.de|debian.org) -- GPG Key ID: 4B3A135C (o_ A man doesn't know what he knows until he knows what he doesn't know. //\ Ein Freund ist ein Geschenk, das man sich selbst macht. V_/_ From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Feb 24 08:55:58 2004 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.30) id 1Avd2U-0008KU-PG for mharc-enigma-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Feb 2004 08:55:58 -0500 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1Avd0u-0007xy-Mw for enigma-devel@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org; Tue, 24 Feb 2004 08:54:20 -0500 Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1Avd01-0007sy-Mu for enigma-devel@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org; Tue, 24 Feb 2004 08:53:56 -0500 Received: from [213.165.64.20] (helo=mail.gmx.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1AvcoL-000462-Pw for enigma-devel@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org; Tue, 24 Feb 2004 08:41:21 -0500 Received: (qmail 23948 invoked by uid 65534); 24 Feb 2004 13:41:12 -0000 Received: from pD9E3D0D6.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO [217.227.208.214]) (217.227.208.214) by mail.gmx.net (mp009) with SMTP; 24 Feb 2004 14:41:12 +0100 X-Authenticated: #2348060 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v612) In-Reply-To: <20040222203424.3f1ca94c.dheck@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <93637930-64A0-11D8-B1B7-00039363D100@gmx.de> <20040222203424.3f1ca94c.dheck@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <133FAD13-66CF-11D8-9A09-00039363D100@gmx.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Johannes Fortmann Subject: Re: [Enigma-devel] Networking Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 14:40:57 +0100 To: enigma-devel@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.612) Cc: X-BeenThere: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Development ML for Enigma List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 13:55:57 -0000 Am 22. Feb 2004 um 20:34 schrieb Daniel Heck: > > Converting the current code base is a huge task, we can only do it step > by step. Here's a rough list of small steps needed: > > - Choose a suitable networking library. My favourite is enet > (enet.cubik.org), but SDL_net might also be an option. > > - Integrate the library into the Enigma configure script / Makefiles I'm all for Enet. I have used SDL_net in the past (well, tried to), and I wouldn't want to do it again :-). Plus, the rationale for enet given in its documentation (fast&unreliable message passing if you need it, optional reliable packets) sounds very good. I've already integrated enet into my local copy of SDL, however I'm completely stuck as to how I import the enet source tree into CVS. I'm trying to work with cvs import, but that wants some really strange parameters. I just want to do some kind of recursive add, but that seems impossible. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Greetings, Johannes From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Feb 25 04:12:02 2004 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.30) id 1Avv5G-0007wM-H0 for mharc-enigma-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Feb 2004 04:12:02 -0500 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1Avv5D-0007vb-Gc for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 25 Feb 2004 04:11:59 -0500 Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1Avv4e-0007h6-QX for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 25 Feb 2004 04:11:56 -0500 Received: from [129.206.210.211] (helo=relay2.uni-heidelberg.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Avv4d-0007er-TZ for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 25 Feb 2004 04:11:24 -0500 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (popix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.235]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i1P9BHSe009420 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 2004 10:11:17 +0100 (MET) Received: from extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.140]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA942092 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 2004 10:11:17 +0100 Received: (qmail 20920 invoked by uid 0); 25 Feb 2004 09:11:15 -0000 Received: from ?145.254.216.242? (HELO tigger) (145.254.216.242) by extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de with SMTP; 25 Feb 2004 09:11:16 -0000 Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 10:09:50 +0100 From: Daniel Heck To: enigma-devel@nongnu.org Subject: Re: [Enigma-devel] Guide Status: Still on hold Message-Id: <20040225100950.7891bc37.dheck@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.6claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Development ML for Enigma List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 09:12:00 -0000 Tacvek wrote: > The guide to compiling enigma under windows using cygwin is still on > hold, as things at savannah have still not returned to normal. Unfortunately no, I still haven't manage to upload new files to the download area. And I've already maxed our the disk space limit of my user account at university. > However, today I figured out the correct way to pakage the SDL libs, > which brings the size of the file to accompany the guide from ~4 MB > iirc, to only 500KB. This I happened to discover by looking at > cygwin's generic-build-script, and will greatly reduce the hastle of > maintaining that file. Great! > As soon as things return to normal the guide will be published... I > only fear that this mess has *not* delayed development of enigma. Only a little, but the Win32 compilation guide will still be useful when the next release comes out.With regard to building Enigma not much has changed to far. I hope I'll be able to sort this all out during March. Cheers, Daniel From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Feb 25 04:14:51 2004 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.30) id 1Avv7y-0000Sh-Kn for mharc-enigma-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Feb 2004 04:14:50 -0500 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1Avv7v-0000Q0-CW for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 25 Feb 2004 04:14:47 -0500 Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1Avv4o-0007ni-HL for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 25 Feb 2004 04:12:06 -0500 Received: from [129.206.100.212] (helo=relay.uni-heidelberg.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Avv4n-0007mV-MA for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 25 Feb 2004 04:11:33 -0500 Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (popix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.235]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i1P9BTiv007302 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 2004 10:11:29 +0100 (MET) Received: from extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.140]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA884742 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 2004 10:11:28 +0100 Received: (qmail 20925 invoked by uid 0); 25 Feb 2004 09:11:27 -0000 Received: from ?145.254.216.242? (HELO tigger) (145.254.216.242) by extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de with SMTP; 25 Feb 2004 09:11:27 -0000 Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 10:15:43 +0100 From: Daniel Heck To: enigma-devel@nongnu.org Subject: Re: [Enigma-devel] Networking Message-Id: <20040225101543.7a906455.dheck@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> In-Reply-To: <133FAD13-66CF-11D8-9A09-00039363D100@gmx.de> References: <93637930-64A0-11D8-B1B7-00039363D100@gmx.de> <20040222203424.3f1ca94c.dheck@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> <133FAD13-66CF-11D8-9A09-00039363D100@gmx.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.6claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Development ML for Enigma List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 09:14:48 -0000 Johannes Fortmann wrote: > I'm all for Enet. I have used SDL_net in the past (well, tried to), > and I wouldn't want to do it again :-). Plus, the rationale for enet > given in its documentation (fast&unreliable message passing if you > need it, optional reliable packets) sounds very good. And, judging from what I've seen so far, these guys seem to know there stuff. > I've already integrated enet into my local copy of SDL, however I'm > completely stuck as to how I import the enet source tree into CVS. > I'm trying to work with cvs import, but that wants some really strange > > parameters. Import is only for importing the very first version into CVS. You need to do a "cvs add" for every new directory and every new file. With a graphical front end this is really a no-brainer, but its also manageable from the command line. > I just want to do some kind of recursive add, but that seems > impossible. Can anyone point me in the right direction? There's no recursive add. You have to do it manually. Daniel From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Feb 27 07:18:57 2004 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.30) id 1AwgvG-0008S6-CY for mharc-enigma-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Feb 2004 07:16:54 -0500 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1AwgtM-0007g4-2Y for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 27 Feb 2004 07:14:56 -0500 Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1Awgr7-00076M-7m for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 27 Feb 2004 07:13:08 -0500 Received: from [164.128.36.32] (helo=mailout.ip-plus.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Awgr6-00075i-8T for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 27 Feb 2004 07:12:36 -0500 Received: from mail.kinet.ch (unknown [212.117.102.4]) by mailout.ip-plus.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 349AB5A26B for ; Fri, 27 Feb 2004 13:14:11 +0100 (MET) Received: from PC402 ([212.117.102.5]) by mail.kinet.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with SMTP id PAA15902 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 2004 15:14:41 +0100 From: "Michi H." To: Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 13:12:27 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: [Enigma-devel] Adding command-line parameters to make enigma a LUA-Level-screenshoot of an specified area X-BeenThere: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list Reply-To: michihostettler2001@yahoo.de List-Id: Development ML for Enigma List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 12:16:24 -0000 Hi all, is it possible to add command-line options to bring enigma to make a "screenshoot" of a specified screen area from a level and save it to a PNG, for example: enigma -s(test.lua,x,y,test.png) or enigma -s(test.lua,x,y) >>test.png x,y are the top,left cell of the screen. for example 0,0 if you want to take a screenstoot of the from screen 0to20,0to13. this will help to make Real enigma screenshoots from blackballed with real enigma graphics AND SHADOWS. thanks you, michi From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Feb 27 16:06:24 2004 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.30) id 1AwpBf-0007Nv-Um for mharc-enigma-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Feb 2004 16:06:23 -0500 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1AwpAv-00074r-3C for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 27 Feb 2004 16:05:37 -0500 Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1AwpAK-0006lu-T6 for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 27 Feb 2004 16:05:32 -0500 Received: from [65.54.184.96] (helo=hotmail.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1AwpAK-0006kw-C1 for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 27 Feb 2004 16:05:00 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 27 Feb 2004 13:04:55 -0800 Received: from 65.40.72.62 by bay15-dav39.bay15.hotmail.com with DAV; Fri, 27 Feb 2004 21:04:55 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.40.72.62] X-Originating-Email: [unknown_kev_cat@hotmail.com] X-Sender: unknown_kev_cat@hotmail.com From: "Tacvek" To: , References: Subject: Re: [Enigma-devel] Adding command-line parameters to make enigma aLUA-Level-screenshoot of an specified area Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 16:04:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Feb 2004 21:04:55.0999 (UTC) FILETIME=[5A0824F0:01C3FD75] Cc: X-BeenThere: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Development ML for Enigma List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 21:05:39 -0000 Yes it is possible, but how much work it would be, I do not know. But i mst warn you that some levels, being dynamicly generated, will not work quite as expected. I suspect that the existing thumbnail code would be the base of such a command line option. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michi H." To: Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 7:12 AM Subject: [Enigma-devel] Adding command-line parameters to make enigma aLUA-Level-screenshoot of an specified area > Hi all, > > is it possible to add command-line options to bring enigma to make a > "screenshoot" of a specified screen area from a level and save it to a PNG, > for example: > enigma -s(test.lua,x,y,test.png) > or > enigma -s(test.lua,x,y) >>test.png > > x,y are the top,left cell of the screen. for example 0,0 if you want to take > a screenstoot of the from screen 0to20,0to13. > > this will help to make Real enigma screenshoots from blackballed with real > enigma graphics AND SHADOWS. > > thanks you, > > michi > > > > _______________________________________________ > Enigma-devel mailing list > Enigma-devel@nongnu.org > http://mail.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/enigma-devel > From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Feb 28 09:52:00 2004 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.30) id 1Ax5ou-0003Ox-PZ for mharc-enigma-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Feb 2004 09:52:00 -0500 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1Ax1Ek-0005iN-HV for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sat, 28 Feb 2004 04:58:22 -0500 Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1Ax1EE-0005VD-QT for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sat, 28 Feb 2004 04:58:21 -0500 Received: from [146.159.4.93] (helo=md.swissinfo.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Ax1EE-0005UY-GD for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sat, 28 Feb 2004 04:57:50 -0500 Received: from mail.swissinfo.org ([194.6.181.33]) by md.swissinfo.org (md.swissinfo.org [146.159.6.10]) (MDaemon.PRO.v6.8.4.R) with ESMTP id 60-md50000002493.tmp for ; Sat, 28 Feb 2004 10:57:35 +0100 Received: from [80.218.15.41] (80.218.15.41) by mail.swissinfo.org (7.0.020) (authenticated as michihostettler) id 3F585D6600D550A7 for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sat, 28 Feb 2004 10:57:31 +0100 From: FilE To: enigma-devel@nongnu.org Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 10:57:56 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200402281057.56454.michihostettler@swissinfo.org> X-MDRemoteIP: 194.6.181.33 X-Return-Path: michihostettler@swissinfo.org X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-Spam-Processed: md.swissinfo.org, Sat, 28 Feb 2004 10:57:42 +0100 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 09:51:58 -0500 Subject: [Enigma-devel] cvs-compiling X-BeenThere: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list Reply-To: michihostettler@swissinfo.org List-Id: Development ML for Enigma List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 09:58:23 -0000 hi all, when i run ./autogen.sh, it reports the following: ===================================== bootstrapping ./lib-src/zipios++/ ===================================== src/Makefile.am: installing `../../depcomp' You can now run configure and make. ===================================== bootstrapping ./lib-src/enet/ ===================================== /usr//bin/autoheader-2.13: Symbol `ENET_BUFFER_MAXIMUM' is not covered by /usr/share/autoconf/acconfig.h /usr//bin/autoheader-2.13: Symbol `HAS_FCNTL' is not covered by /usr/share/autoconf/acconfig.h /usr//bin/autoheader-2.13: Symbol `HAS_GETHOSTBYADDR_R' is not covered by /usr/share/autoconf/acconfig.h /usr//bin/autoheader-2.13: Symbol `HAS_GETHOSTBYNAME_R' is not covered by /usr/share/autoconf/acconfig.h /usr//bin/autoheader-2.13: Symbol `HAS_POLL' is not covered by /usr/share/autoconf/acconfig.h You can now run configure and make. ==================== bootstrapping ./ ==================== configure.ac:8: `automake requires `AM_CONFIG_HEADER', not `AC_CONFIG_HEADER' You can now run configure and make. and then, ./configure is not found! please help, michi From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Feb 28 10:24:18 2004 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.30) id 1Ax6KA-00047E-75 for mharc-enigma-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Feb 2004 10:24:18 -0500 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1Ax6K6-00045S-El for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sat, 28 Feb 2004 10:24:14 -0500 Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1Ax6JY-0003tG-Uq for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sat, 28 Feb 2004 10:24:12 -0500 Received: from [134.109.132.57] (helo=meg.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Ax6JY-0003t2-LD for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sat, 28 Feb 2004 10:23:40 -0500 Received: from marvin.csn.tu-chemnitz.de ([134.109.96.74]) by meg.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Ax6JU-0003oF-56; Sat, 28 Feb 2004 16:23:36 +0100 Received: by marvin.csn.tu-chemnitz.de (Postfix, from userid 500) id F1DB07DE26; Sat, 28 Feb 2004 16:25:55 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 16:25:55 +0100 From: Ingo van Lil To: FilE Subject: Re: [Enigma-devel] cvs-compiling Message-ID: <20040228152555.GA4221@marvin.csn.tu-chemnitz.de> References: <200402281057.56454.michihostettler@swissinfo.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200402281057.56454.michihostettler@swissinfo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 35a077d52d8eb09d911074c20d374ce4 Cc: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-BeenThere: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Development ML for Enigma List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 15:24:16 -0000 On 28 Feb 2004, FilE wrote: > ===================================== > bootstrapping ./lib-src/enet/ > ===================================== > /usr//bin/autoheader-2.13: Symbol `ENET_BUFFER_MAXIMUM' is not covered by > /usr/share/autoconf/acconfig.h > /usr//bin/autoheader-2.13: Symbol `HAS_FCNTL' is not covered by > /usr/share/autoconf/acconfig.h > /usr//bin/autoheader-2.13: Symbol `HAS_GETHOSTBYADDR_R' is not covered by > /usr/share/autoconf/acconfig.h > /usr//bin/autoheader-2.13: Symbol `HAS_GETHOSTBYNAME_R' is not covered by > /usr/share/autoconf/acconfig.h > /usr//bin/autoheader-2.13: Symbol `HAS_POLL' is not covered by > /usr/share/autoconf/acconfig.h > You can now run configure and make. Looks like your autoconf is far too old. According to doc/HACKING enigma needs autoconf >= 2.5. And as far as I can tell that means 2.50 and above (bit of a strange release numbering scheme). My Linux distribution (Gentoo) installs both autoconf 2.13 and 2.58 and uses an environment variable (WANT_AUTOCONF) to determine which one to use. Maybe your distribution does something similar? Cheers, Ingo From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Feb 29 14:16:41 2004 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.30) id 1AxWQb-0000TB-2P for mharc-enigma-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Feb 2004 14:16:41 -0500 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1AxWPo-0000KF-NH for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 29 Feb 2004 14:15:52 -0500 Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1AxWOQ-0007mR-VP for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 29 Feb 2004 14:15:09 -0500 Received: from [65.54.184.112] (helo=hotmail.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1AxWOQ-0007jA-2X for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 29 Feb 2004 14:14:26 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 29 Feb 2004 11:14:21 -0800 Received: from 65.41.53.98 by bay15-dav8.bay15.hotmail.com with DAV; Sun, 29 Feb 2004 19:14:21 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.41.53.98] X-Originating-Email: [unknown_kev_cat@hotmail.com] X-Sender: unknown_kev_cat@hotmail.com From: "Tacvek" To: References: <200402281057.56454.michihostettler@swissinfo.org> <20040228152555.GA4221@marvin.csn.tu-chemnitz.de> Subject: Re: [Enigma-devel] cvs-compiling Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 14:14:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Feb 2004 19:14:21.0822 (UTC) FILETIME=[3C9491E0:01C3FEF8] X-BeenThere: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Development ML for Enigma List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 19:15:53 -0000 Actually from what i can tell, th GNU Autotools, have some sort of similiar built-in support, using progrmes named auto{gen,conf}-wrapper, that scan the configure.ac and/or makefile.am, calling an old version or a new version as needed. I have corrisponded privately with michi, and will point out, that my config seems nearly match his, and i get to the point where i can run configure, but it will not build for me (on cygwin, I assume this was just tempory for me, and have not tried more recently.) But michi seems to still have this problem so FWIW: He has: AC 2.57-5mdk (old: 2.13-19mdk) AM 1.7.6-1mdk (old: 1.4-23.p6.mdk) I have: AC 2.59 (old:2.13) AM 1.7.9 (old:1.4-p6) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ingo van Lil" To: "FilE" Cc: Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [Enigma-devel] cvs-compiling > On 28 Feb 2004, FilE wrote: > > > ===================================== > > bootstrapping ./lib-src/enet/ > > ===================================== > > /usr//bin/autoheader-2.13: Symbol `ENET_BUFFER_MAXIMUM' is not covered by > > /usr/share/autoconf/acconfig.h > > /usr//bin/autoheader-2.13: Symbol `HAS_FCNTL' is not covered by > > /usr/share/autoconf/acconfig.h > > /usr//bin/autoheader-2.13: Symbol `HAS_GETHOSTBYADDR_R' is not covered by > > /usr/share/autoconf/acconfig.h > > /usr//bin/autoheader-2.13: Symbol `HAS_GETHOSTBYNAME_R' is not covered by > > /usr/share/autoconf/acconfig.h > > /usr//bin/autoheader-2.13: Symbol `HAS_POLL' is not covered by > > /usr/share/autoconf/acconfig.h > > You can now run configure and make. > > Looks like your autoconf is far too old. According to doc/HACKING enigma > needs autoconf >= 2.5. And as far as I can tell that means 2.50 and > above (bit of a strange release numbering scheme). > My Linux distribution (Gentoo) installs both autoconf 2.13 and 2.58 and > uses an environment variable (WANT_AUTOCONF) to determine which one to > use. Maybe your distribution does something similar? > > Cheers, > Ingo > > > > _______________________________________________ > Enigma-devel mailing list > Enigma-devel@nongnu.org > http://mail.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/enigma-devel > From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Feb 29 20:19:12 2004 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.30) id 1Axc5P-0006Rp-BA for mharc-enigma-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Feb 2004 20:19:11 -0500 Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1Axc1b-0005Yk-6P for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 29 Feb 2004 20:15:15 -0500 Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1Axc12-0005Lu-Ay for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 29 Feb 2004 20:15:11 -0500 Received: from [134.109.132.57] (helo=meg.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Axc11-0005Ke-Na for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 29 Feb 2004 20:14:39 -0500 Received: from marvin.csn.tu-chemnitz.de ([134.109.96.74]) by meg.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Axc0x-0006C4-GY for enigma-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 01 Mar 2004 02:14:35 +0100 Received: by marvin.csn.tu-chemnitz.de (Postfix, from userid 500) id D71464C4A0; Mon, 1 Mar 2004 02:16:52 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 02:16:52 +0100 From: Ingo van Lil To: enigma-devel@nongnu.org Message-ID: <20040301011652.GA17344@marvin.csn.tu-chemnitz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 35a077d52d8eb09d911074c20d374ce4 Subject: [Enigma-devel] CVS testing X-BeenThere: enigma-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Development ML for Enigma List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 01:15:17 -0000 Hi there, here's a list of more or less serious issues I noticed when playing the current CVS version. Just ignore it if you're already aware of some of them: - The st-chameleon stone is no longer passable, rendering several levels (e.g. Draggers/ant21 or Look Closely/martin102) unsolvable. - Levels with mail stones and pipes (duffy70) have a strong tendency towards segmentation faults. - Most keys/locks don't seem to work. In fact, the only working locks I found were in level5e and ss_esp69 (two out of three in both cases). I don't know what makes these different from all the others. - The umbrella does no longer protect from drowning. - Levels that include it-burnable-ignited objects (e.g. ss7) fail to load. - Why is the par time for "Too Heavy?" (martin101) so high? The level can easily be finished in less than a minute. Cheers, Ingo