From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Mar 01 03:56:26 2015 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1YRzfm-000241-RI for mharc-gcmd-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2015 03:56:26 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50547) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YRzfj-0001zH-Ci for gcmd-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2015 03:56:24 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YRzfe-00011s-DN for gcmd-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2015 03:56:23 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:53882) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YRzfe-00010n-30 for gcmd-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2015 03:56:18 -0500 Received: from localhost ([95.116.223.67]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MJSQ7-1YTvkR0x8l-0032bz for ; Sun, 01 Mar 2015 09:56:16 +0100 Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 502D467698; Sun, 1 Mar 2015 09:56:15 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2015 09:56:15 +0100 From: Uwe Scholz To: gcmd-devel@nongnu.org Message-ID: <20150301085615.GA2887@uwe-notebook> Mail-Followup-To: gcmd-devel@nongnu.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline X-message: Please send Plain-Text messages. 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X-Editor: GNU Emacs 24.1.1 X-GPG-Fingerprint: CCEB FA34 16C0 7873 D9AA 0892 6054 A9B7 A6B5 5686 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.22 (2013-10-16) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:V08j3e8DVpYWhht2rF5jL85fNluqltv5xSkVjxh4DbFpj8kHiDe qcZ2e1cgP9vgaUfLMF8NfzGCWbA9Jgl/Yb1crH/V0DOgs8x145//f6w5/u3pswLGjAAMwey wi+fXuZ0TRLTcPLde55BccOwkjav9gstHdGkqkwNoKp9LFdI2Jq0QJb2XpbStx12wnqnRon SBhjFlFANEGsBOSUMHp8w== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.15.18 Subject: [gcmd-dev] Getting rid of bug 653573 - Passwords stored in plain text in ./gnome-commander/connections X-BeenThere: gcmd-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gnome-commander development list List-Id: Gnome-commander development list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2015 08:56:24 -0000 Hi, currently, connection passwords are stored in plain text in ./gnome-commander/connections when not using GNOME Keyring Manager for storing passwords in Gnome Commander. This is a security flaw, as already stated in the bug report #653573 (*). For the next release of GCMD I plan to get rid of this bug, i.e. I will remove the ability to store passwords in ./gnome-commander/connections. This would mean, that only GNOME Keyring Manager will be used in the future for storing connection passwords. If anybody has suggestions on how to store passwords in a secure way in a usual text file (preferably using some ready to use C libraries), please let me know. Otherwise, as said above, I will remove the current password storing behaviour from GCMD. Best wishes, Uwe (*) https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=653573 From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Mar 01 20:24:04 2015 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1YSF5Y-0006Qk-3R for mharc-gcmd-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2015 20:24:04 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39588) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YSF5V-0006Qc-Te for gcmd-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2015 20:24:02 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YSF5S-0006Y8-Mk for gcmd-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2015 20:24:01 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:56878) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YSF5S-0006XY-DH for gcmd-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2015 20:23:58 -0500 Received: from mirrors.kernel.org ([78.48.39.248]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LZz01-1Xn5lZ24NR-00lnUP for ; Mon, 02 Mar 2015 02:23:56 +0100 Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2015 02:24:19 +0100 From: Michael To: gcmd-devel@nongnu.org Message-ID: <20150302022419.5085c771@mirrors.kernel.org> In-Reply-To: <20150301085615.GA2887@uwe-notebook> References: <20150301085615.GA2887@uwe-notebook> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:eCs2f6XX4Y7f2/hrdmYp2ZtiyubGlpFW9a/g/kOcvuLKRmF/cuZ bYpo+Tsw6aiEEbUSHUHtmxwSPaV1Wczik2WDW0eumJqTg08YXyfXQ+6WLIZUw1TuJj6p+oc 4eOUybe7GeKekV/X4kGyo8amxmwJzHwVLM1dLGlfLg0WxqqaTftAaHW72ZwwTllAM402mxm dcBKqACBsJOcTdCQxpOZA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.15.19 Subject: Re: [gcmd-dev] Getting rid of bug 653573 - Passwords stored in plain text in ./gnome-commander/connections X-BeenThere: gcmd-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gnome-commander development list List-Id: Gnome-commander development list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2015 01:24:02 -0000 Uwe, Hmmm....i think there are secure local ways, but it's probably not worth the effort to maintain them. Anything 'secure' has to be kept up-to-date and be watched for exploits. It's more effective to leave this routine to the keyring crews. There's one argument for local storage, though: Keyring is in focus of potential hackers, while a single file manager (and not too popular, i guess) is not. But then, if a user of a desktop application really fears a virus or hacker, then she should begin with effective firewalling (preferably at the gateway) and intrusion detection...and if you're *that* paranoid, then shouldn't you store your passwords only on a sheet of paper, in the first place, and keep it under your pillow... Instead of improving the security of some module of gcmd, anybody concerned should rather support improving keyring applications. ps. Ah, i forgot to say, i seem to remember there are more keyring apps out (like kwallet) and i hope they meanwhile talk a common protocol, so that a specific gnome binding is not necessary ? i.e., make the keyring application configurable....and even if one freakish users favorite no-works then at least gcmd is prepared for the day when it will do ... From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Mar 03 16:02:17 2015 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1YStxJ-0001l6-Lw for mharc-gcmd-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2015 16:02:17 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33519) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YStxH-0001fx-G0 for gcmd-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2015 16:02:16 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YStxE-0006OQ-7Y for gcmd-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2015 16:02:15 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:57829) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YStxD-0006O2-T9 for gcmd-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2015 16:02:12 -0500 Received: from localhost ([217.51.55.231]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LabZr-1XlqZx0zBH-00mGZa for ; Tue, 03 Mar 2015 22:02:10 +0100 Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 007D3672A7; Tue, 3 Mar 2015 22:02:08 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2015 22:02:08 +0100 From: Uwe Scholz To: Gnome-commander development list Message-ID: <20150303210208.GA4373@uwe-notebook> Mail-Followup-To: Gnome-commander development list References: <20150301085615.GA2887@uwe-notebook> <20150302022419.5085c771@mirrors.kernel.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150302022419.5085c771@mirrors.kernel.org> X-message: Please send Plain-Text messages. 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X-Editor: GNU Emacs 24.1.1 X-GPG-Fingerprint: CCEB FA34 16C0 7873 D9AA 0892 6054 A9B7 A6B5 5686 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:MljMoQZS++nj7eZJo/hRV9VZKsXwOMt8xGpj2HKk2CJdZYcW17T 8UbWB9cg/Xhrds1lawryCoyIP6LRdkej1YNYc7XYxsKSgTexc7UH1gzM2b5eS963uVfMqiN +XbNgCgZDvh/t6X9EphJHC3vdIn0D2R/x9Dx38xhtf16Tv2y92i1MbuiIfEfaEdzdEWPWo4 M8pHXS2KwY9rRmYExnMdA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.17.20 Subject: Re: [gcmd-dev] Getting rid of bug 653573 - Passwords stored in plain text in ./gnome-commander/connections X-BeenThere: gcmd-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gnome-commander development list List-Id: Gnome-commander development list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2015 21:02:16 -0000 Hi Michael, Just to be sure, I don't know if this came out clearly on my last mail: I'm not willing to take the responsibility of users password storage on a software which is maintained by me. Michael schrieb am [Mon, 02.03.2015 02:24]: > Hmmm....i think there are secure local ways, but it's probably not > worth the effort to maintain them. Anything 'secure' has to be kept > up-to-date and be watched for exploits. It's more effective to leave > this routine to the keyring crews. Do you really think there are secure ways that don't rely on external libraries? I can hardly imagine that a developer without deep knowledge in encryption and memory handling can handle something like this. > There's one argument for local storage, though: Keyring is in focus of > potential hackers, while a single file manager (and not too popular, i > guess) is not. >From the developers point of view there is never a good argument for password storage on a disk, despite user convenience. The past gave us enough examples. Even when not storing the password physically on the disk can be problematic: You might have heard about the latest bug in putty? (*) Actually I'm wondering why Piotr did not remove the plain text storage of an ssh password earlier. This is really a scary bug. Think of a company using Gnome Commander... if I was an admin I would definitely prohibit the use of a software in which passwords are stored in plain text. > [...] > > Instead of improving the security of some module of gcmd, anybody > concerned should rather support improving keyring applications. Exactly. This is also my point. > ps. Ah, i forgot to say, i seem to remember there are more keyring > apps out (like kwallet) and i hope they meanwhile talk a common > protocol, so that a specific gnome binding is not necessary ? i.e., > make the keyring application configurable....and even if one freakish > users favorite no-works then at least gcmd is prepared for the day > when it will do ... Thanks for these tips, I will keep them in mind. (*) http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/SSH-Client-Putty-Fast-vergessene-Sicherheitsluecke-geschlossen-2563230.html From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Mar 31 16:20:44 2015 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1Yd2eS-0004dz-5w for mharc-gcmd-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2015 16:20:44 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54060) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ycz3a-0005H2-Fp for gcmd-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2015 12:30:28 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ycz3Q-0004B1-VM for gcmd-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2015 12:30:26 -0400 Received: from nm35-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([98.138.229.97]:54007) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ycz3Q-0004Ap-Oc for gcmd-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2015 12:30:16 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1427819415; bh=rhh1tMIuub2yK2W7A30UpQ+dQeb/HdvyESRFwDY9l9I=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:From:Subject; b=Tgi1t+8ItUKcR5mYrteWn36SyQ6UZ65rj609XggqvzKVPhcZiWrYTP5KF3oQC3aq3zanJr/VjrGRvdF2Oq4rLXXq5OfFF7WDVX7TXsPpfJdCkjbuOv8A02xFxoXD2QqNteXzmirlusXOfDJvr9mrrmTIHVgAg2IE7lkCSyvDZAwOh6d47QoYSnY6JBsS6lvh7jKHkIZ3YBmkUTJoXHNsbkZ4EdbkJo2Zo8YMBXn4rfsvKGQhluuRRm2e2C6PGI3jLR22l2nR0hKSQLhMBpc9tOZq1SMKxkqt/HOYUnUuueR0Ol1GtaLje+V9vvLPFQNx4sh45xRTXO15qgB4BaLovA== Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm35.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Mar 2015 16:30:15 -0000 Received: from [98.138.100.118] by nm35.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Mar 2015 16:27:33 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.171] by tm109.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Mar 2015 16:27:25 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.214] by tm17.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Mar 2015 16:27:25 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1023.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Mar 2015 16:27:25 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-4 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 713777.72376.bm@omp1023.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-YMail-OSG: IpyvzNgVM1nnb0yg31vWVuBR6EIghgwGERhWKvomf1a8vZZ3Btu4w7pLFHi20LR 0uvw44ZvRR_IpQJKAAdzOGquGM6yWmJiYuZUwojKqBrqotykLnA9VL5H84kB.30GdMYZlZrwXg_M 2DJoErIhQWXPXcoqjZbpMTNsN4NliD1a2qFVufttWhRML8znRukeSYb_7vB26lieRs1_fjeOxPd7 sk.1VVFlFdY0eUdMcyzPcXPRg1fuSQaj426ppl4NS7ju.Pb8WzPVTdU5Di8pHwt0W2FrYT7KvdbD s8J8wE1LyMV4_hPlrKHd_s0BGjYFJpZq.mzNlm7aakGUthCYTm6EQwdvg_azQetH5VeT01Gfhhu. YRqzFc87f1oIYNShGFhaClMg7l8xOOB93NJ6iyTUSO8A.oCELDTzalcHegotO43elzGmAjEVAZgu l_2JIlvaZLbM4C7lTK.LGJb0dbDQ7uZvyGSe.M2SVeL.nksxAmfP2zE6TiwCfkMpQJ7MBDjz8C2P GRfFfsV2AOsiZwgzpfByyBC9VOLAxEkrr5ySW9tfucnp_JuZnj.Uuye6BlB6CVze.xAuj4FnTN09 qYBzLLZ7K3RvquM7Y_Qtkoj017BOvC01I1DmlUvzgHQE44bJ6sqzX7OkVr6f3kh5AW_0R7RflOId kMk18fLZcyZ6OmIqtpVK48ucb Received: by 66.196.81.109; Tue, 31 Mar 2015 16:27:25 +0000 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 16:27:24 +0000 (UTC) From: Nick Eolicman To: "gcmd-users@nongnu.org" , "gcmd-devel@nongnu.org" Message-ID: <431848219.2652645.1427819244432.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Length: 4972 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 98.138.229.97 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 16:20:43 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Subject: [gcmd-dev] Problem with the icon set of Gnome Commander (possible bug?) X-BeenThere: gcmd-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick Eolicman , Gnome-commander development list List-Id: Gnome-commander development list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 16:30:28 -0000 Hi Folks, =C2=A0I'm trying to customize an icon them for Gnome Commander, but I'm hav= ing big problems=20 with two icons: the icon of the delete action in the edit main pop up menu = and thesend files icon of the toolbar, actually it seems impossible to chan= ge them! =C2=A0From the source code: [gnome-cmd-file-popmenu.cc]=C2=A0static GnomeUIInfo other_uiinfo[] =3D =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 { =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 GNOMEUIINFO_ITEM_STOCK(N_("Cu_t"= ), NULL, on_cut, GTK_STOCK_CUT), =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 GNOMEUIINFO_ITEM_STOCK(N_("_Copy= "), NULL, on_copy, GTK_STOCK_COPY), =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 GNOMEUIINFO_ITEM(N_("Copy file n= ames"), NULL, edit_copy_fnames, copy_file_names_xpm), =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 GNOMEUIINFO_ITEM_STOCK(N_("_Dele= te"), NULL, on_delete, GNOME_STOCK_TRASH), =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 GNOMEUIINFO_SEPARATOR, =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 GNOMEUIINFO_ITEM_NONE (N_("Renam= e"), NULL, on_rename), **************LOOK HERE !!!!****** =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 GNOMEUIINFO_ITEM_STOCK(N_("Send = files"), NULL, file_sendto, GNOME_STOCK_MAIL_SND), **************LOOK HERE !!!!******=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=20 GNOMEUIINFO_ITEM_FILENAME (N_("Open this _folder"), NULL, command_open_naut= ilus, PACKAGE_NAME G_DIR_SEPARATOR_S "nautilus.svg"), =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 GNOMEUIINFO_ITEM_FILENAME (N_("O= pen _terminal here"), NULL, command_open_terminal__internal, PACKAGE_NAME G= _DIR_SEPARATOR_S "terminal.svg"), =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 GNOMEUIINFO_SEPARATOR, =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 GNOMEUIINFO_ITEM_STOCK(N_("_Prop= erties..."), NULL, on_properties, GTK_STOCK_PROPERTIES), =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 GNOMEUIINFO_END =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 }; [gnome-cmd-main-win.cc] static GnomeUIInfo other_uiinfo[] =3D =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 { =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 GNOMEUIINFO_ITEM_STOCK(N_("Cu_t"= ), NULL, on_cut, GTK_STOCK_CUT), =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 GNOMEUIINFO_ITEM_STOCK(N_("_Copy= "), NULL, on_copy, GTK_STOCK_COPY), =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 GNOMEUIINFO_ITEM(N_("Copy file n= ames"), NULL, edit_copy_fnames, copy_file_names_xpm), =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 GNOMEUIINFO_ITEM_STOCK(N_("_Dele= te"), NULL, on_delete, GNOME_STOCK_TRASH), =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 GNOMEUIINFO_SEPARATOR, =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 GNOMEUIINFO_ITEM_NONE (N_("Renam= e"), NULL, on_rename), **************LOOK HERE !!!!****** =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 GNOMEUIINFO_ITEM_STOCK(N_("Send = files"), NULL, file_sendto, GNOME_STOCK_MAIL_SND), **************LOOK HERE !!!!******* GNOMEUIINFO_ITEM_FILENAME (N_("Open this _folder"), NULL, command_open_naut= ilus, PACKAGE_NAME G_DIR_SEPARATOR_S "nautilus.svg"), =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 GNOMEUIINFO_ITEM_FILENAME (N_("O= pen _terminal here"), NULL, command_open_terminal__internal, PACKAGE_NAME G= _DIR_SEPARATOR_S "terminal.svg"), =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 GNOMEUIINFO_SEPARATOR, =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 GNOMEUIINFO_ITEM_STOCK(N_("_Prop= erties..."), NULL, on_properties, GTK_STOCK_PROPERTIES), =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 GNOMEUIINFO_END =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 }; =C2=A0it appears these icons should be named:"gnome-stock-trash", (the one = of the pop up menu); "gnome-stock-mail-snd", (the one of the toolbar); infact: [gnome-stock-icons.h] #define GNOME_STOCK_TIMER "gnome-stock-timer" #define GNOME_STOCK_TIMER_STOP "gnome-stock-timer-stop" #define GNOME_STOCK_TRASH "gnome-stock-trash" #define GNOME_STOCK_TRASH_FULL "gnome-stock-trash-full" #define GNOME_STOCK_SCORES "gnome-stock-scores" #define GNOME_STOCK_ABOUT "gnome-stock-about" #define GNOME_STOCK_BLANK "gnome-stock-blank" #define GNOME_STOCK_VOLUME "gnome-stock-volume" #define GNOME_STOCK_MIDI "gnome-stock-midi" #define GNOME_STOCK_MIC "gnome-stock-mic" #define GNOME_STOCK_LINE_IN "gnome-stock-line-in" #define GNOME_STOCK_MAIL "gnome-stock-mail" #define GNOME_STOCK_MAIL_RCV "gnome-stock-mail-rcv" #define GNOME_STOCK_MAIL_SND "gnome-stock-mail-snd" #define GNOME_STOCK_MAIL_RPL "gnome-stock-mail-rpl" #define GNOME_STOCK_MAIL_FWD "gnome-stock-mail-fwd" #define GNOME_STOCK_MAIL_NEW "gnome-stock-mail-new" #define GNOME_STOCK_ATTACH "gnome-stock-attach" =C2=A0Unfortunately I didn't manage in any way to change them regardless th= e names I usedin my theme: is it a bug or I'm missing something? =C2=A0More does anyone know where is located the defaul icon set? I've sear= ched in thestandard locations, ($HOME/.icons, /usr/share/icons, /usr/pixmap= s), but also inthis case I had no luck....=C2=A0=20 =C2=A0Please send your kind responses to this mail address, since I haven't= subscribed yet to the mailing list. Thank You All In Advance. Nicholas =C2=A0