From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Mar 03 13:03:43 2016 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1abXbD-0007oG-5f for mharc-libreplanet-ca-on@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Mar 2016 13:03:43 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38071) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1abXbA-0007nT-Us for libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org; Thu, 03 Mar 2016 13:03:41 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1abXb7-0002IZ-Kt for libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org; Thu, 03 Mar 2016 13:03:40 -0500 Received: from w1.tutanota.de ([81.3.6.162]:41207) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1abXb7-0002HT-Bj for libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org; Thu, 03 Mar 2016 13:03:37 -0500 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by w1.tutanota.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BD63FA82BC for ; Thu, 3 Mar 2016 18:03:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from w1.tutanota.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (w1.tutanota.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7CQi70CrNRU1 for ; Thu, 3 Mar 2016 18:03:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from w1.tutanota.de (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by w1.tutanota.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 359A3FA82A7 for ; Thu, 3 Mar 2016 18:03:12 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2016 18:03:12 +0000 (GMT) From: Rudolf Olah To: LibrePlanet Ontario Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <87io1fosnh.fsf@sergiodj.net> References: <56CCDC03.80407@sobac.com> <<56CCDC03.80407@sobac.com> (Bob Jonkman's message of "Tue, 23 Feb 2016 17:24:03 -0500")> <87oab7ovsj.fsf@sergiodj.net> <<87oab7ovsj.fsf@sergiodj.net>> < (Rudolf's message of "Wed, 24 Feb 2016 00:10:01 +0000")> <87io1fosnh.fsf@sergiodj.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_138067_104152779.1457028192211" X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 81.3.6.162 Subject: Re: [lp-ca-on] Can anyone host LibreLuna? (LibrePlanet viewing session) X-BeenThere: libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "LibrePlanet Ontario, Canada Team" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2016 18:03:42 -0000 ------=_Part_138067_104152779.1457028192211 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My thought is we hang out on IRC and watch the stream and advertise to=20 others. Someone can always stream their screen if the load is too great for= =20 their servers.=C2=A0 Would be easier than dealing with a commute (my commute is way longer than= =20 before, between an hour and two hours, yay GO bus)=C2=A0 -rudolf -- Securely sent with Tutanota. Claim your encrypted mailbox today! https://tutanota.com 23. Feb 2016 19:31 by sergiodj@sergiodj.net: > On Tuesday, February 23 2016, Rudolf wrote: > >> It sounds like they want someone to just display their server's streams = in >> a public event, if the event is on the weekend there's still some time t= o >> book a room with decent WiFi somewhere and invite people by going to mee= t >> ups. > > Thanks, it made sense after I looked for more info. > > -- > Sergio > GPG key ID: 237A 54B1 0287 28BF 00EF 31F4 D0EB 7628 65FC 5E36 > Please send encrypted e-mail if possible > http://sergiodj.net ------=_Part_138067_104152779.1457028192211 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My thought is we hang out on IRC and watch the stream and advertise to others. Someone can always stream their screen if the load is too great for their servers. 

Would be easier than dealing with a commute (my commute is way longer than before, between an hour and two hours, yay GO bus) 

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23. Feb 2016 19:31 by sergiodj@sergiodj.net:

On Tuesday, February 23 2016, Rudolf wrote:
It sounds like they want someone to just display their server's streams in
a public event, if the event is on the weekend there's still some time to
book a room with decent WiFi somewhere and invite people by going to meet
ups.

Thanks, it made sense after I looked for more info.

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There was interest in February, but we didn't nail down a date. How about a poll? https://framadate.org/J9kiJoUROjMvdtPI I've put options up for 8pm or 9pm, Mon-Thurs on the last two weeks of the month. This will be after the LibrePlanet conference, so in addition to discussing LibrePlanet Ontario, we could also discuss the conference for those who attend / watch the stream. From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Mar 08 07:53:20 2016 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1adH8a-0005sf-1S for mharc-libreplanet-ca-on@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2016 07:53:20 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41437) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1adH8W-0005mt-CN for libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2016 07:53:17 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1adH8R-0006N0-Pa for libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2016 07:53:16 -0500 Received: from w1.tutanota.de ([81.3.6.162]:53327) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1adH8R-0006MR-Fr for libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2016 07:53:11 -0500 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by w1.tutanota.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 748BDFA8271 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 12:53:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from w1.tutanota.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (w1.tutanota.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id w1TKztQ5oQrI for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 12:53:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from w1.tutanota.de (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by w1.tutanota.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05E31FA08B7 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 12:53:07 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 12:53:07 +0000 (GMT) From: Rudolf Olah To: LibrePlanet Ontario Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_9625_1642262502.1457441587015" X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 81.3.6.162 Subject: [lp-ca-on] Weird license to look at X-BeenThere: libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "LibrePlanet Ontario, Canada Team" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2016 12:53:18 -0000 ------=_Part_9625_1642262502.1457441587015 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Someone is writing an open source event ticketing platform and the company = I=20 now work at is in the same business so it's pretty important for me to make= =20 sure I can even look at the code without violating a license.=C2=A0 So I took a look and this the weirdest modification of the BSD license=20 because it restricts redistribution. That makes it not open source or Libre= =20 right? I wonder what happens if I just look and copy the css style sheet an= d=20 themes of their site, I would have to put "powered by Attendize" somewhere?= =C2=A0 It also does what Mozilla does (or used to do?) which is restrict the use o= f=20 a trademark.=C2=A0 Text of the license in case it changes: Attribution Assurance LicenseCopyright (c) 2016 by Dave Earley=20 (dave@attendize.com)http://www.attendize.com All Rights ReservedATTRIBUTION ASSURANCE LICENSE (adapted from the original= =20 BSD license)Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or=20 withoutmodification, are permitted provided that the conditions below are= =20 met.These conditions require a modest attribution to Attendize.com. The=20 hopeis that its promotional value may help justify the thousands of dollars= =20 inotherwise billable time invested in writing this and other freely=20 available,open-source software. 1. Redistributions of source code, in whole or part and with or=20 withoutmodification requires the express permission of the author and must= =20 prominentlydisplay "Powered by Attendize" or the Attendize logo in verifiab= le=20 formwith hyperlink to said site.2. Neither the name nor any trademark of th= e=20 Author may be used toendorse or promote products derived from this software= =20 without specificprior written permission.3. Users are entirely responsible,= =20 to the exclusion of the Author andany other persons, for compliance with (1= )=20 regulations set by owners oradministrators of employed equipment, (2)=20 licensing terms of any othersoftware, and (3) local regulations regarding= =20 use, including thoseregarding import, export, and use of encryption softwar= e. 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Claim your encrypted mailbox today! https://tutanota.com ------=_Part_9625_1642262502.1457441587015 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Someone is writing an open source event ticketing platform and the company = I now work at is in the same business so it's pretty important for me to ma= ke sure I can even look at the code without violating a license. 
=
So I took a look and this the weirdest modification of the= BSD license because it restricts redistribution. That makes it not open so= urce or Libre right? I wonder what happens if I just look and copy the css = style sheet and themes of their site, I would have to put "powered by = Attendize" somewhere? 

It also does wh= at Mozilla does (or used to do?) which is restrict the use of a trademark.&= nbsp;

Text of the license in case it changes:

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m= odification, are permitted provided that the conditions below are met.
These conditions require a modest attribution to Atten= dize.com. The hope
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endorse or promote products d= erived from this software without specific
prior = written permission.
3. Users are entirely respons= ible, to the exclusion of the Author and
any othe= r persons, for compliance with (1) regulations set by owners or
administrators of employed equipment, (2) licensing terms of= any other
software, and (3) local regulations re= garding use, including those
regarding import, ex= port, and use of encryption software.

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ANY DIR= ECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR
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That makes it not open source or Libre >right? I wonder what happens if I just look and copy the css style sheet a= nd >themes of their site, I would have to put "powered by Attendize" >somewhere?=C2=A0 Custom licenses almost always go badly. 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X-Received-From: 206.248.154.181 Subject: Re: [lp-ca-on] Weird license to look at X-BeenThere: libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "LibrePlanet Ontario, Canada Team" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2016 18:10:16 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --13TF30mmuB4fIV98jclLm6u11pEvEGG3v Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="JuIqDr8uEDbBj6eeBkffb5pnExGS3Eu1W" From: Bob Jonkman To: Libreplanet Canada Ontario Message-ID: <56DF155F.6010006@sobac.com> Subject: Re: [lp-ca-on] Weird license to look at References: <20160308163522.GA3075@singpolyma-liberty> In-Reply-To: <20160308163522.GA3075@singpolyma-liberty> --JuIqDr8uEDbBj6eeBkffb5pnExGS3Eu1W Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rudolf wrote: >> So I took a look and this the weirdest modification of the BSD=20 >> license because it restricts redistribution. That makes it not open >> source or Libre right? Stephen replied: > This one seems unclear, but not *necessarily* nonfree. The requirement for attribution or the restriction of the trademark doesn't make it non-free, since it doesn't affect your ability to view, distribute, modify or distribute modifications. But the need for permission to distribute source code *does* make it non-free, since permission could be denied, or worse, revoked after you've already distributed it with prior permission. The code may still be "Open Source", in that the code is available for inspection, but it is not FSF-defined Free Software since it doesn't have the freedom to distibute the code or distribute modified code. If you're working on a commercial project, it's probably OK to look at the source code. But I wouldn't use any of the code (CSS included) in your own software. Patents open up a whole new can of worms. If any of the code is patented (can CSS be patented?) then even looking at the code could result in a patent infringement, since any subsequent code you write could have been based on the techniques in their code. --Bob, who is not a lawyer but just as paranoid. Bob Jonkman Phone: +1-519-635-9413 SOBAC Microcomputer Services http://sobac.com/sobac/ Software --- Office & Business Automation --- Consulting GnuPG Fngrprnt:04F7 742B 8F54 C40A E115 26C2 B912 89B0 D2CC E5EA On 2016-03-08 11:35 AM, Stephen Paul Weber wrote: > Somebody claiming to be Rudolf Olah wrote: >> Someone is writing an open source event ticketing platform and the=20 >> company I now work at is in the same business so it's pretty=20 >> important for me to make sure I can even look at the code without=20 >> violating a license. So I took a look and this the weirdest=20 >> modification of the BSD license because it restricts=20 >> redistribution. That makes it not open source or Libre right? I=20 >> wonder what happens if I just look and copy the css style sheet >> and themes of their site, I would have to put "powered by >> Attendize" somewhere? >=20 > Custom licenses almost always go badly. This one seems unclear, but > not *necessarily* nonfree. On 2016-03-08 07:53 AM, Rudolf Olah wrote: > Someone is writing an open source event ticketing platform and the=20 > company I now work at is in the same business so it's pretty=20 > important for me to make sure I can even look at the code without=20 > violating a license. So I took a look and this the weirdest=20 > modification of the BSD license because it restricts redistribution. > That makes it not open source or Libre right? I wonder what happens > if I just look and copy the css style sheet and themes of their=20 > site, I would have to put "powered by Attendize" somewhere? It also=20 > does what Mozilla does (or used to do?) which is restrict the use of=20 > a trademark. Text of the license in case it changes: >=20 > Attribution Assurance LicenseCopyright (c) 2016 by Dave Earley=20 > (dave@attendize.com)http://www.attendize.com All Rights Reserved >=20 > ATTRIBUTION ASSURANCE LICENSE (adapted from the original BSD=20 > license)Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or=20 > without modification, are permitted provided that the conditions=20 > below are met. These conditions require a modest attribution to=20 > Attendize.com. The hope is that its promotional value may help > justify the thousands of dollars in otherwise billable time invested > in writing this and other freely available,open-source software. >=20 > 1. Redistributions of source code, in whole or part and with or=20 > without modification requires the express permission of the author=20 > and must prominently display "Powered by Attendize" or the Attendize=20 > logo in verifiable form with hyperlink to said site. >=20 > 2. Neither the name nor any trademark of the Author may be used to > endorse or promote products derived from this software without=20 > specific prior written permission. >=20 > 3. Users are entirely responsible, to the exclusion of the Author and > any other persons, for compliance with (1) regulations set by owners > or administrators of employed equipment, (2) licensing terms of any > other software, and (3) local regulations regarding use, including=20 > those regarding import, export, and use of encryption software. >=20 > THIS FREE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE AUTHOR "AS IS" ANDANY EXPRESS=20 > OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED=20 > WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE > ARE DISCLAIMED. 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[173.238.199.108]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id h131sm1831935ioe.7.2016.03.08.12.52.13 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 08 Mar 2016 12:52:13 -0800 (PST) To: libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org References: <20160308163522.GA3075@singpolyma-liberty> <56DF155F.6010006@sobac.com> From: Daniel Villarreal Message-ID: <56DF3B7C.6050706@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 14:52:12 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <56DF155F.6010006@sobac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22a Subject: Re: [lp-ca-on] Weird license to look at X-BeenThere: libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "LibrePlanet Ontario, Canada Team" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2016 20:52:21 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 08/03/16 12:09 PM, Bob Jonkman wrote: > Rudolf wrote: >>> [...] the weirdest modification of the BSD license because it >>> restricts redistribution. That makes it not open source or >>> Libre right? > > Stephen replied: >> This one seems unclear, but not *necessarily* nonfree. > > The requirement for attribution or the restriction of the > trademark doesn't make it non-free, since it doesn't affect your > ability to view, distribute, modify or distribute modifications. > > But the need for permission to distribute source code *does* make > it non-free[...] > > The code may still be "Open Source", in that the code is available > for inspection, but it is not FSF-defined Free Software since it > doesn't have the freedom to distibute the code or distribute > modified code. > > If you're working on a commercial project, it's probably OK to look > at the source code. But I wouldn't use any of the code (CSS > included) in your own software... --Bob, who is not a lawyer but > just as paranoid[...] I wouldn't even look at the code, before checking with the legal department, and getting more opinions. There are so many licenses available... https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html > On 2016-03-08 11:35 AM, Stephen Paul Weber wrote: >>> [...] Rudolf Olah wrote: Someone is writing an open source >>> event ticketing platform and the company I now work at is in >>> the same business so it's pretty important for me to make sure >>> I can even look at the code without violating a license. [...] >>> this the weirdest modification of the BSD license because it >>> restricts redistribution. That makes it not open source or >>> Libre right? I wonder what happens if I just look and copy the >>> css style sheet and themes of their site, I would have to put >>> "powered by Attendize" somewhere? >> >> Custom licenses almost always go badly. This one seems unclear, >> but not *necessarily* nonfree.[...] I'd want to know why they _didn't_ go with an existing license-type. This is not legal advice. 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X-Received-From: 206.248.154.181 Subject: Re: [lp-ca-on] March Mumble Meeting X-BeenThere: libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "LibrePlanet Ontario, Canada Team" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2016 09:23:21 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --QW9PxKki329n1KWbBxjko99Xm6lK8aMN0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0DHJxb0fB0I7vf16ue3GTtUk2vSvONvBS" From: Bob Jonkman To: Libreplanet Canada Ontario Message-ID: <56DFEB76.3030409@sobac.com> Subject: Re: [lp-ca-on] March Mumble Meeting References: <56DE6551.60406@blaise.ca> In-Reply-To: <56DE6551.60406@blaise.ca> --0DHJxb0fB0I7vf16ue3GTtUk2vSvONvBS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK, I've added my availability to the framadate. Seems like I have less time left than I thought. --Bob, who didn't mean to sound morbid in that previous sentence. On 2016-03-08 12:38 AM, Blaise Alleyne wrote: > Okay, let's try again for a Mumble meeting this month. There was intere= st in > February, but we didn't nail down a date. >=20 > How about a poll? > https://framadate.org/J9kiJoUROjMvdtPI >=20 > I've put options up for 8pm or 9pm, Mon-Thurs on the last two weeks of = the > month. This will be after the LibrePlanet conference, so in addition to= > discussing LibrePlanet Ontario, we could also discuss the conference fo= r those > who attend / watch the stream. >=20 --0DHJxb0fB0I7vf16ue3GTtUk2vSvONvBS-- --QW9PxKki329n1KWbBxjko99Xm6lK8aMN0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 Comment: Ensure confidentiality, authenticity, non-repudiability iEYEARECAAYFAlbf63YACgkQuRKJsNLM5eqc/wCgy2wqXTlyk6sD2WO1ZlZCIg+K 3+sAnj22YdcsdKe4vTS0F3TxFJlrK1aK =3hXd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --QW9PxKki329n1KWbBxjko99Xm6lK8aMN0-- From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Mar 19 12:14:48 2016 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1ahJWa-0005gh-IU for mharc-libreplanet-ca-on@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2016 12:14:48 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51798) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ahJWX-0005dE-Tq for libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2016 12:14:46 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ahJWS-0004bU-TW for libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2016 12:14:45 -0400 Received: from anaximander.blaise.ca ([198.50.117.186]:58719) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ahJWS-0004ar-Oz for libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2016 12:14:40 -0400 Received: from [192.168.2.103] (69-165-245-61.cable.teksavvy.com [69.165.245.61]) by anaximander.blaise.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BE5D5BEC023 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2016 12:14:39 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=blaise.ca; s=2014; t=1458404080; bh=jb9T67e+v71hkpZ6/APS/EDQD93eWmalKmzWUhoJSIA=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=NLJ9ZaCATDT/cSUAvSWjlgSqvcLURfWZDKAVOABQGba+X7tuxfIGjWZi3hUkEDMgQ Dhe57C1QscjtHul9wB1i8CNh9zUAUHSo/0HmkAkROAUo6OEQyRavPcvsbmaaKwNH0w gq/RAwZxlvCgTKtg3WT6yeeP1IeIAtBz+7yb5NRrUP2QomS1VSThPz0iHY4s6RYE2U bS/U54uSO/fdFIifMm9kSNUXcz+aLarg5j9Vxd7Z0No8TTszXuLGK/Glc4WCs0HeC8 zWgZGfUML2Ptdo9nO/2Gv8tsGEOwZtjStUSuwUK5EPliByBO+UVrkaotn0PzWK+4xV TDoK+Kq0qJWqA== To: libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org References: <56DE6551.60406@blaise.ca> <56DFEB76.3030409@sobac.com> From: Blaise Alleyne Message-ID: <56ED7AEF.6080601@blaise.ca> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2016 12:14:39 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/38.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <56DFEB76.3030409@sobac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 198.50.117.186 Subject: Re: [lp-ca-on] March Mumble Meeting X-BeenThere: libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "LibrePlanet Ontario, Canada Team" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2016 16:14:47 -0000 On 09/03/16 04:23 AM, Bob Jonkman wrote: > On 2016-03-08 12:38 AM, Blaise Alleyne wrote: >> Okay, let's try again for a Mumble meeting this month. [...] >> >> How about a poll? >> https://framadate.org/J9kiJoUROjMvdtPI >> Okay, let's do Thurs March 24 @ 9pm. I think we can get 4-5 of us. Sergio, can you resend instructions for connecting to the Mumble server? From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Mar 20 22:05:54 2016 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1ahpEA-0001ci-8v for mharc-libreplanet-ca-on@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2016 22:05:54 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57771) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ahpE7-0001as-PS for libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2016 22:05:52 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ahpE3-0002gn-K4 for libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2016 22:05:51 -0400 Received: from kwanyin.sergiodj.net ([176.31.208.32]:55505) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ahpE3-0002gL-DH for libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2016 22:05:47 -0400 From: Sergio Durigan Junior To: Blaise Alleyne References: <56DE6551.60406@blaise.ca> <56DFEB76.3030409@sobac.com> <56ED7AEF.6080601@blaise.ca> X-URL: http://blog.sergiodj.net Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2016 22:05:41 -0400 In-Reply-To: <56ED7AEF.6080601@blaise.ca> (Blaise Alleyne's message of "Sat, 19 Mar 2016 12:14:39 -0400") Message-ID: <871t74bn62.fsf@sergiodj.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 176.31.208.32 Cc: libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org Subject: Re: [lp-ca-on] March Mumble Meeting X-BeenThere: libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "LibrePlanet Ontario, Canada Team" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 02:05:52 -0000 On Saturday, March 19 2016, Blaise Alleyne wrote: > On 09/03/16 04:23 AM, Bob Jonkman wrote: >> On 2016-03-08 12:38 AM, Blaise Alleyne wrote: >>> Okay, let's try again for a Mumble meeting this month. [...] >>> >>> How about a poll? >>> https://framadate.org/J9kiJoUROjMvdtPI >>> > > Okay, let's do Thurs March 24 @ 9pm. I think we can get 4-5 of us. Nice. > Sergio, can you resend instructions for connecting to the Mumble server? Yeah. The server is at , default port (64738). Once you connect to it, double-click the "LibrePlanet Ontario" room and you'll be taken to where we'll meet. 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X-Received-From: 206.248.154.181 Subject: Re: [lp-ca-on] March Mumble Meeting X-BeenThere: libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "LibrePlanet Ontario, Canada Team" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 04:30:36 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --spGup5VrT3q4v1huKu5QalHAAKVI6FcJu Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="1NM5j5BqJ3bfbjALACQqwNHBr4k21lne9" From: Bob Jonkman To: Libreplanet Canada Ontario Message-ID: <56F21BC9.7090700@sobac.com> Subject: Re: [lp-ca-on] March Mumble Meeting References: <56DE6551.60406@blaise.ca> <56DFEB76.3030409@sobac.com> <56ED7AEF.6080601@blaise.ca> <871t74bn62.fsf@sergiodj.net> In-Reply-To: <871t74bn62.fsf@sergiodj.net> --1NM5j5BqJ3bfbjALACQqwNHBr4k21lne9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All: Thursday, 24 March 2016 coincides with the KWVoIP meeting, which takes place from 7:00pm to 9:00pm at the Egg Roll King restaurant in Kitchener. I'd like to invite any LibrePlanet folk to crash^H^H^H^H come to the KWVoIP meeting as well, where we'll be tuning in to the Mumble channel at 9:00pm, and staying as long as our host Tony lets us stay (ERK closes at 9:30pm). There's a convenient convergence of technologies: Mumble is a Voice over Internet Protocol technology, although it's not Internet Telephony that integrates to the Public Switched Telephone System... --Bob. (a caution to Libre folks: Not all the VoIP stuff we discuss is Libre -- some is downright proprietary!) *What*: KWVoIP meeting http://kwvoip.ca/ *When*: Thursday, 24 March 2016 from 7:00pm to 9:00pm *Where*: Egg Roll King Restaurant *Location*: 85 Courtland Avenue East, Kitchener, Ontario *Map*: http://osm.org/go/ZXnwS2IA--?m=3D&way=3D195517589 *iCalendar*: http://kwvoip.sobac.com/kwvoip-2016-03-24.ics On 2016-03-20 10:05 PM, Sergio Durigan Junior wrote: > On Saturday, March 19 2016, Blaise Alleyne wrote: >=20 >> On 09/03/16 04:23 AM, Bob Jonkman wrote: >>> On 2016-03-08 12:38 AM, Blaise Alleyne wrote: >>>> Okay, let's try again for a Mumble meeting this month. [...] >>>> >>>> How about a poll? >>>> https://framadate.org/J9kiJoUROjMvdtPI >>>> >> >> Okay, let's do Thurs March 24 @ 9pm. I think we can get 4-5 of us. >=20 > Nice. >=20 >> Sergio, can you resend instructions for connecting to the Mumble serve= r? >=20 > Yeah. The server is at , default port (64738). Onc= e > you connect to it, double-click the "LibrePlanet Ontario" room and > you'll be taken to where we'll meet. >=20 > Cheers, >=20 --1NM5j5BqJ3bfbjALACQqwNHBr4k21lne9-- --spGup5VrT3q4v1huKu5QalHAAKVI6FcJu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 Comment: Ensure confidentiality, authenticity, non-repudiability iEYEARECAAYFAlbyG80ACgkQuRKJsNLM5ep3ZgCg3rpKlEr+veIJ+U2HVZ9dDTuq kqgAn2i1T5M42yMgp7nxh2U+Ra+FSIA7 =32eo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --spGup5VrT3q4v1huKu5QalHAAKVI6FcJu-- From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Mar 23 10:01:29 2016 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1aijLl-0003vE-5M for mharc-libreplanet-ca-on@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:01:29 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48587) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aijLf-0003u8-Tw for libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:01:28 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aijLb-0002Dg-B9 for libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:01:23 -0400 Received: from sub3.mail.dreamhost.com ([69.163.253.7]:58199 helo=homiemail-a23.g.dreamhost.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aijLb-0002DS-1G for libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:01:19 -0400 Received: from homiemail-a23.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a23.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E34194B007C for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 07:01:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=tnir.org; h=from :content-type:message-id:mime-version:subject:date:references:to :in-reply-to; s=tnir.org; bh=+zSKIq/+B/1Y4lkynRph8Q/mkxw=; b=OEd tuokVsDVIZRlXuNl2tsZ8S2Zl++rKTkuDPpqnbuFoz0JRICtJ+YvK5xgUB0wZoqF s/aqewsPCl4dJGej5MRJS9v3nqjMJUNr3Fd4g6APmp/NI1JwZw8DAdlX9spfAYcj KCU/LaF6uV4WrxrJrLDSydXeWcKEqig00uxscXmU= Received: from [192.168.1.22] (76-10-128-217.dsl.teksavvy.com [76.10.128.217]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: rae@tnir.org) by homiemail-a23.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A5E084B006F for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 07:01:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Reid Ellis Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_D487EBAC-9349-4CF3-A58F-11624912CBBA" Message-Id: <3872CA72-E139-4E42-9E55-8E6AA51404A3@tnir.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.2 \(3112\)) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:01:14 -0400 References: <56DE6551.60406@blaise.ca> <56DFEB76.3030409@sobac.com> <56ED7AEF.6080601@blaise.ca> <871t74bn62.fsf@sergiodj.net> <56F21BC9.7090700@sobac.com> To: Libreplanet Canada Ontario In-Reply-To: <56F21BC9.7090700@sobac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3112) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 69.163.253.7 Subject: Re: [lp-ca-on] March Mumble Meeting X-BeenThere: libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "LibrePlanet Ontario, Canada Team" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 14:01:28 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_D487EBAC-9349-4CF3-A58F-11624912CBBA Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, Long-time lurker, first time poster here. :-) Any chance the mumble meeting can be/is recorded so that we lurking = masses can listen to them later? I know that tomorrow night at 9 I will = be in a darkened theatre watching Batman v Superman. :-) If there is no recording, is it ok to leave myself connected, recording = audio? I could upload the (ogg encoded!) recording to archive.org = later. I guess I would use the = same CC BY-ND 4.0 license that GNU uses = ? Reid On Wed Mar 23 2016, at 00:30 , Bob Jonkman wrote: > Hi All: Thursday, 24 March 2016 coincides with the KWVoIP meeting, = which > takes place from 7:00pm to 9:00pm at the Egg Roll King restaurant in > Kitchener. >=20 > I'd like to invite any LibrePlanet folk to crash^H^H^H^H come to the > KWVoIP meeting as well, where we'll be tuning in to the Mumble channel > at 9:00pm, and staying as long as our host Tony lets us stay (ERK = closes > at 9:30pm). >=20 > There's a convenient convergence of technologies: Mumble is a Voice = over > Internet Protocol technology, although it's not Internet Telephony = that > integrates to the Public Switched Telephone System... >=20 > --Bob. >=20 > (a caution to Libre folks: Not all the VoIP stuff we discuss is Libre = -- > some is downright proprietary!) >=20 >=20 > *What*: KWVoIP meeting http://kwvoip.ca/ > *When*: Thursday, 24 March 2016 from 7:00pm to 9:00pm > *Where*: Egg Roll King Restaurant > *Location*: 85 Courtland Avenue East, Kitchener, Ontario > *Map*: http://osm.org/go/ZXnwS2IA--?m=3D&way=3D195517589 > *iCalendar*: http://kwvoip.sobac.com/kwvoip-2016-03-24.ics >=20 >=20 > On 2016-03-20 10:05 PM, Sergio Durigan Junior wrote: >> On Saturday, March 19 2016, Blaise Alleyne wrote: >>=20 >>> On 09/03/16 04:23 AM, Bob Jonkman wrote: >>>> On 2016-03-08 12:38 AM, Blaise Alleyne wrote: >>>>> Okay, let's try again for a Mumble meeting this month. [...] >>>>>=20 >>>>> How about a poll? >>>>> https://framadate.org/J9kiJoUROjMvdtPI >>>>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Okay, let's do Thurs March 24 @ 9pm. I think we can get 4-5 of us. >>=20 >> Nice. >>=20 >>> Sergio, can you resend instructions for connecting to the Mumble = server? >>=20 >> Yeah. The server is at , default port (64738). = Once >> you connect to it, double-click the "LibrePlanet Ontario" room and >> you'll be taken to where we'll meet. >>=20 >> Cheers, >>=20 --Apple-Mail=_D487EBAC-9349-4CF3-A58F-11624912CBBA Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Hi,

Long-time lurker, first time poster here. :-)

Any chance the mumble = meeting can be/is recorded so that we lurking masses can listen to them = later? I know that tomorrow night at 9 I will be in a darkened theatre = watching Batman v Superman. :-)

If there is no recording, is it ok to = leave myself connected, recording audio? I could upload the (ogg = encoded!) recording to archive.org later. I guess I would use the = same CC BY-ND = 4.0 license that GNU uses?

Reid

On Wed Mar 23 2016, at = 00:30 , Bob Jonkman <bjonkman@sobac.com> wrote:
Hi All: Thursday, 24 March 2016 coincides with = the KWVoIP meeting, which
takes place from 7:00pm to 9:00pm at the Egg Roll King = restaurant in
Kitchener.

I'd = like to invite any LibrePlanet folk to crash^H^H^H^H come to the
KWVoIP meeting as well, where we'll be tuning in to the = Mumble channel
at 9:00pm, and staying as long as our host = Tony lets us stay (ERK closes
at 9:30pm).

There's a convenient convergence of technologies: Mumble is a = Voice over
Internet Protocol technology, although it's not = Internet Telephony that
integrates to the Public Switched = Telephone System...

--Bob.

(a caution to Libre folks: Not all the VoIP stuff we discuss = is Libre --
some is downright proprietary!)


*What*: KWVoIP meeting http://kwvoip.ca/
*When*: Thursday, 24 March 2016 from 7:00pm to 9:00pm
*Where*: Egg Roll King Restaurant
*Location*: = 85 Courtland Avenue East, Kitchener, Ontario
*Map*: http://osm.org/go/ZXnwS2IA--?m=3D&way=3D195517589
*iCalendar*: http://kwvoip.sobac.com/kwvoip-2016-03-24.ics


On 2016-03-20 10:05 PM, Sergio = Durigan Junior wrote:
On Saturday, March 19 2016, Blaise Alleyne wrote:

On = 09/03/16 04:23 AM, Bob Jonkman wrote:
On 2016-03-08 12:38 AM, Blaise Alleyne = wrote:
Okay, let's = try again for a Mumble meeting this month. [...]

How about a poll?
https://framadate.org/J9kiJoUROjMvdtPI


Okay, let's do Thurs = March 24 @ 9pm. I think we can get 4-5 of us.

Nice.

Sergio, can you resend = instructions for connecting to the Mumble server?

Yeah.  The server is at = <libreplanetbr.org>, default port (64738). =  Once
you connect to it, double-click the = "LibrePlanet Ontario" room and
you'll be taken to where = we'll meet.

Cheers,

= --Apple-Mail=_D487EBAC-9349-4CF3-A58F-11624912CBBA-- From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Mar 23 10:26:36 2016 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1aijk4-00008Q-D1 for mharc-libreplanet-ca-on@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:26:36 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54653) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aijjw-000083-WB for libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:26:34 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aijju-0000pk-9j for libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:26:28 -0400 Received: from anaximander.blaise.ca ([198.50.117.186]:42889) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aijju-0000pd-5C for libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:26:26 -0400 Received: from [192.168.2.103] (69-165-245-61.cable.teksavvy.com [69.165.245.61]) by anaximander.blaise.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3CB37BEC045 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:26:25 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=blaise.ca; s=2014; t=1458743185; bh=KtUjdRIRQlDWiT6AjI8Xwo7rBMHHFX20qkE2F3mKQik=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=jFnoGxNW/n5KiF1Q6ZBDCtOU2GKugsce9dIdsT0l4fETpynZYKCZ6a2T/61u+aEUI iSFlqtcNk7xQ7II+sEzlSk+2ctEPOKcezxC50gcS9eXTTv/+MZbgVYAbm5cjaaKNti GSMA2iozCQEf7V5Xv+VGq1WOFLfmw+TJWIyiKBBFwMrBvB0zAZ27+bxU54+YQBq+l5 4nf4WSCahS2ynqBaV1IUugNdgTrNbITwKIDAPkRQScAaOVpcpxwqwBHPDb5JjKrJx1 Hz5SnefWFEHvHs4xwu+X0tpkeCwIIPMaBJOep4BhPrlZ9GWMtJSOB56kAeKnsrqCp1 ZAVJoE0/r/iWg== To: libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org References: <56DE6551.60406@blaise.ca> <56DFEB76.3030409@sobac.com> <56ED7AEF.6080601@blaise.ca> <871t74bn62.fsf@sergiodj.net> <56F21BC9.7090700@sobac.com> <3872CA72-E139-4E42-9E55-8E6AA51404A3@tnir.org> From: Blaise Alleyne Message-ID: <56F2A790.7060102@blaise.ca> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:26:24 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/38.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3872CA72-E139-4E42-9E55-8E6AA51404A3@tnir.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 198.50.117.186 Subject: Re: [lp-ca-on] March Mumble Meeting X-BeenThere: libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "LibrePlanet Ontario, Canada Team" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 14:26:34 -0000 On 23/03/16 10:01 AM, Reid Ellis wrote: > Long-time lurker, first time poster here. :-) > Welcome! > Any chance the mumble meeting can be/is recorded so that we lurking masses can > listen to them later? [...] If there is no recording, is it ok to leave myself connected, recording audio? I > could upload the (ogg encoded!) recording to archive.org later. *shrugs* I don't mind? Whether or not it can be recorded via Mumble would be a Sergio question I guess. I imagine as long as everyone in the meeting knows it's being recorded, it's not a problem? > I guess I would use the same CC > BY-ND 4.0 license that GNU uses ? > My vote would be for a libre license, like CC BY or BY-SA. From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Mar 23 12:57:55 2016 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1aim6V-0005Bk-Tf for mharc-libreplanet-ca-on@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 12:57:55 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39155) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aim6T-0005BU-UW for libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 12:57:55 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aim6P-0000pX-F5 for libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 12:57:53 -0400 Received: from singpolyma.net ([184.107.182.218]:36111) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aim6P-0000pD-AY for libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 12:57:49 -0400 Received: by singpolyma.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 80E44F20E3; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 16:57:48 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=singpolyma.net; s=iweb; t=1458752268; bh=BCZfaZTG1Cpg5cywS4yz2onYLCig6z4YE90W62NISfE=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:In-Reply-To; b=e6946ax9/cTEDIESEXYvPqAmtvFnJt1UTxWzlUl8USaACzVcin6CaS/ngmf4XAYlh SDgsN+dRfsC7/hXabRnl2RojJVhKOWb5HimYKNPbTaCwDOnb8xDWFq4vUg14wIfLnR qK9jjVqQeIvOa5z4ZlM3ndnMzaQ7hUcTpivf3zZ0= Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 11:57:47 -0500 From: Stephen Paul Weber To: Blaise Alleyne Message-ID: <20160323165747.GB3064@singpolyma-liberty> References: <56DE6551.60406@blaise.ca> <56DFEB76.3030409@sobac.com> <56ED7AEF.6080601@blaise.ca> <871t74bn62.fsf@sergiodj.net> <56F21BC9.7090700@sobac.com> <3872CA72-E139-4E42-9E55-8E6AA51404A3@tnir.org> <56F2A790.7060102@blaise.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <56F2A790.7060102@blaise.ca> Jabber-ID: singpolyma@singpolyma.net OpenPGP: id=CE519CDE; url=https://singpolyma.net/public.asc X-URL: https://singpolyma.net User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 184.107.182.218 Cc: libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org Subject: Re: [lp-ca-on] March Mumble Meeting X-BeenThere: libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "LibrePlanet Ontario, Canada Team" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 16:57:55 -0000 >> I guess I would use the same CC >> BY-ND 4.0 license that GNU uses ? > >My vote would be for a libre license, like CC BY or BY-SA. +1 -- Stephen Paul Weber, @singpolyma See for how I prefer to be contacted edition right joseph From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Mar 23 13:01:29 2016 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1aim9x-0005gx-71 for mharc-libreplanet-ca-on@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 13:01:29 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39944) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aim9r-0005cp-T4 for libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 13:01:27 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aim9n-0001zx-Pt for libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 13:01:23 -0400 Received: from singpolyma.net ([184.107.182.218]:36360) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aim9n-0001zs-Lc for libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 13:01:19 -0400 Received: by singpolyma.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4D4E8F20F3; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 17:01:19 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=singpolyma.net; s=iweb; t=1458752479; bh=6hmyq2D8CzPE7rRI20gALXI9Cm5hWUA0KOprQ3H92T8=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:In-Reply-To; b=cqV1BciIALk0GgXGonJrlV0FZuzYjzLBu0K3hEtbH9tREyEh1XzEmDTW8vrRioQwD C7HquTXpwiBmh7uWnn9dVP6hW3x0DTiR8v5rdG8RajKp1qTg0mw7eIi0g4uquKnh3v JvAXXswkE1I8FEIO45m6fxe1YlsxGwf/7lWyNNtM= Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 12:01:18 -0500 From: Stephen Paul Weber To: Sergio Durigan Junior Message-ID: <20160323170118.GC3064@singpolyma-liberty> References: <56DE6551.60406@blaise.ca> <56DFEB76.3030409@sobac.com> <56ED7AEF.6080601@blaise.ca> <871t74bn62.fsf@sergiodj.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="wzJLGUyc3ArbnUjN" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <871t74bn62.fsf@sergiodj.net> Jabber-ID: singpolyma@singpolyma.net OpenPGP: id=CE519CDE; url=https://singpolyma.net/public.asc X-URL: https://singpolyma.net User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 184.107.182.218 Cc: libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org Subject: Re: [lp-ca-on] March Mumble Meeting X-BeenThere: libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "LibrePlanet Ontario, Canada Team" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 17:01:27 -0000 --wzJLGUyc3ArbnUjN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >> Okay, let's do Thurs March 24 @ 9pm. I think we can get 4-5 of us. > >Nice. > >> Sergio, can you resend instructions for connecting to the Mumble server? > >Yeah. The server is at , default port (64738). Once >you connect to it, double-click the "LibrePlanet Ontario" room and >you'll be taken to where we'll meet. I'll try to scrounge up a mic and join. --=20 Stephen Paul Weber, @singpolyma See for how I prefer to be contacted edition right joseph --wzJLGUyc3ArbnUjN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJW8sveAAoJENEcKRHOUZzeGIQP/08bJFIO4WhJCjeYmRrPYk4G aaNKdKoF6+JjnnCzGYpNKpYuPOwEn/BMp/NxUFSFuPkIfMlNBLSdvFpGLlC5nCO7 ifCau1/juOb/Ik5ilvAY2tRKBz1lB+b7QKeW0wZrCg1H0fMg3tRtNOlSMqod7ctk Q53rbuewCO3dx6EYt/Pm0JFLgXo2XuOK1n0RC0D14vXf6dVez5O7FGofOtZKJ47+ zMfBEl/QEkegsdeKqxj82VuBNnCWNvYFPiNWoEjKvyVxfFk1b78a8SclgczTm/Sc DnXwTuRxXjfRK19Grg7dHBFWBO2V4KvEAMYF+NykNsDX8Ck2oGwhblvuPvdldiMn 5WQ5v4T0t4kjId1t7htI96GrTS1iZpuSuOc4uRzzvhME5IUXCmbz1d2K/HGVc3YO huUV5rDQkwCVIQVsKrF0Z7hYhx2dIiZpjfWiAJ0rrzxxBk2ABM9cnRnB8SwanLCj /5l8uOMs7klc+HDODTdD2Q8QtjsW4dVpmFAs/tnl1NjBmqvVzYE5O/5lc0c4wLrL GWXy8hohdc6nb2Uwqiy6AwFPw8I5XcN8DQLiQhcfCf955Hs/DGRFEZYY94Wbcqag hakvR3CQ/yfsL6CFXKPR2aP1J2rDe4DP53JV40+tQCbSHWrNrYNC3BgCsYjgiwUC pTDnOcrD7nvv9sKpfpqX =4fDy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --wzJLGUyc3ArbnUjN-- From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Mar 23 13:18:19 2016 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1aimQF-0003li-Qj for mharc-libreplanet-ca-on@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 13:18:19 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44110) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aimQD-0003lU-OZ for libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 13:18:18 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aimQA-00067y-EB for libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 13:18:17 -0400 Received: from kwanyin.sergiodj.net ([176.31.208.32]:59183) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aimQA-00067b-7m for libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 13:18:14 -0400 From: Sergio Durigan Junior To: Blaise Alleyne References: <56DE6551.60406@blaise.ca> <56DFEB76.3030409@sobac.com> <56ED7AEF.6080601@blaise.ca> <871t74bn62.fsf@sergiodj.net> <56F21BC9.7090700@sobac.com> <3872CA72-E139-4E42-9E55-8E6AA51404A3@tnir.org> <56F2A790.7060102@blaise.ca> X-URL: http://blog.sergiodj.net Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 13:18:09 -0400 In-Reply-To: <56F2A790.7060102@blaise.ca> (Blaise Alleyne's message of "Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:26:24 -0400") Message-ID: <87d1ql865q.fsf@sergiodj.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 176.31.208.32 Cc: libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org Subject: Re: [lp-ca-on] March Mumble Meeting X-BeenThere: libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "LibrePlanet Ontario, Canada Team" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 17:18:18 -0000 On Wednesday, March 23 2016, Blaise Alleyne wrote: > On 23/03/16 10:01 AM, Reid Ellis wrote: >> Long-time lurker, first time poster here. :-) >> > > Welcome! Welcome, too :-). > >> Any chance the mumble meeting can be/is recorded so that we lurking masses can >> listen to them later? [...] If there is no recording, is it ok to leave myself connected, recording audio? I >> could upload the (ogg encoded!) recording to archive.org later. > > *shrugs* I don't mind? Whether or not it can be recorded via Mumble would be a > Sergio question I guess. > > I imagine as long as everyone in the meeting knows it's being recorded, it's not > a problem? I don't mind as well. The Mumble desktop client can record the conversations, and it's even smart enough to offer recording all in one track or each person in its own track. It's very nice for podcasts, TBH (I honestly don't understand why people still use Skype for this, but that's another question...). So yeah, you're welcome to leave your client connected and record, if you want. And while at it, if someone else wants to record as well, feel free to do so. >> I guess I would use the same CC >> BY-ND 4.0 license that GNU uses ? >> > > My vote would be for a libre license, like CC BY or BY-SA. 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X-Received-From: 206.248.154.181 Subject: Re: [lp-ca-on] March Mumble Meeting X-BeenThere: libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "LibrePlanet Ontario, Canada Team" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 19:00:13 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I don't mind being recorded either, and would prefer a Free Culture license too. - --Bob. On 2016-03-23 01:18 PM, Sergio Durigan Junior wrote: > On Wednesday, March 23 2016, Blaise Alleyne wrote: > >> On 23/03/16 10:01 AM, Reid Ellis wrote: >>> Long-time lurker, first time poster here. :-) >>> >> >> Welcome! > > Welcome, too :-). > >> >>> Any chance the mumble meeting can be/is recorded so that we >>> lurking masses can listen to them later? [...] If there is no >>> recording, is it ok to leave myself connected, recording audio? >>> I could upload the (ogg encoded!) recording to archive.org >>> later. >> >> *shrugs* I don't mind? Whether or not it can be recorded via >> Mumble would be a Sergio question I guess. >> >> I imagine as long as everyone in the meeting knows it's being >> recorded, it's not a problem? > > I don't mind as well. > > The Mumble desktop client can record the conversations, and it's > even smart enough to offer recording all in one track or each > person in its own track. It's very nice for podcasts, TBH (I > honestly don't understand why people still use Skype for this, but > that's another question...). > > So yeah, you're welcome to leave your client connected and record, > if you want. And while at it, if someone else wants to record as > well, feel free to do so. > >>> I guess I would use the same CC BY-ND 4.0 license that GNU uses >>> ? >>> >> >> My vote would be for a libre license, like CC BY or BY-SA. > > Agreed. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 Comment: Ensure confidentiality, authenticity, non-repudiability iEYEARECAAYFAlby55UACgkQuRKJsNLM5ert5wCg0J7JFZQ66EKdJka7xPpD9lYm PaQAn1rsrsTdmVs65ba2mrtX7vwy5t3d =je31 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Mar 23 15:39:13 2016 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1aiocb-000159-OX for mharc-libreplanet-ca-on@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 15:39:13 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51754) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aiocY-000151-Ag for libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 15:39:11 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aiocV-000893-4T for libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 15:39:10 -0400 Received: from sub3.mail.dreamhost.com ([69.163.253.7]:47250 helo=homiemail-a12.g.dreamhost.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aiocU-00088y-RL for libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 15:39:07 -0400 Received: from homiemail-a12.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a12.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AB7C1030063 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 12:39:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=tnir.org; h=from :content-type:message-id:mime-version:subject:date:references:to :in-reply-to; s=tnir.org; bh=4UbblyzCAx5kWNRou3Kx/zpufSc=; b=cCU vE+KTGWLCZ8j+p4ZhK5q3hHylFH+EkC3RyNRjTwlRyEbzx2fOINrobka1zUIqFJk EVjTBl9vYfdHUjPJUML9dPdW/eEy1k9ybws6GbZpkRMLoTg2cve7zRW7NfRFNPG/ BvlOdBAf3P0TSp+8YHRxAuFiQ+kUCdM/3kLEnUxg= Received: from [192.168.1.22] (76-10-128-217.dsl.teksavvy.com [76.10.128.217]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: rae@tnir.org) by homiemail-a12.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EED731030020 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 12:39:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Reid Ellis Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_296B05B2-BD30-49EF-AC4E-426B0646C272" Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 15:39:03 -0400 References: <56DE6551.60406@blaise.ca> <56DFEB76.3030409@sobac.com> <56ED7AEF.6080601@blaise.ca> <871t74bn62.fsf@sergiodj.net> <56F21BC9.7090700@sobac.com> <3872CA72-E139-4E42-9E55-8E6AA51404A3@tnir.org> <56F2A790.7060102@blaise.ca> <87d1ql865q.fsf@sergiodj.net> <56F2E798.2040008@sobac.com> To: Libreplanet Canada Ontario In-Reply-To: <56F2E798.2040008@sobac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x (no timestamps) [generic] X-Received-From: 69.163.253.7 Subject: Re: [lp-ca-on] March Mumble Meeting X-BeenThere: libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "LibrePlanet Ontario, Canada Team" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 19:39:11 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_296B05B2-BD30-49EF-AC4E-426B0646C272 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 It=E2=80=99s interesting that gnu.org itself doesn=E2=80=99t use a Free = Culture license. =46rom what I can tell (via = ) that means using one of: CC BY 4.0 CC BY-SA 4.0 So I=E2=80=99ll go for CC BY 4.0 if that=E2=80=99s ok with everyone. = I=E2=80=99ll start recording before we leave (around 5pm) and stop when = we get home (around 11pm). Obviously I=E2=80=99ll edit it down to get = rid of silences. Reid On Wed Mar 23 2016, at 14:59 , Bob Jonkman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 >=20 > I don't mind being recorded either, and would prefer a Free Culture > license too. >=20 > - --Bob. >=20 >=20 > On 2016-03-23 01:18 PM, Sergio Durigan Junior wrote: >> On Wednesday, March 23 2016, Blaise Alleyne wrote: >>=20 >>> On 23/03/16 10:01 AM, Reid Ellis wrote: >>>> Long-time lurker, first time poster here. :-) >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Welcome! >>=20 >> Welcome, too :-). >>=20 >>>=20 >>>> Any chance the mumble meeting can be/is recorded so that we >>>> lurking masses can listen to them later? [...] If there is no >>>> recording, is it ok to leave myself connected, recording audio? >>>> I could upload the (ogg encoded!) recording to archive.org >>>> later. >>>=20 >>> *shrugs* I don't mind? Whether or not it can be recorded via >>> Mumble would be a Sergio question I guess. >>>=20 >>> I imagine as long as everyone in the meeting knows it's being >>> recorded, it's not a problem? >>=20 >> I don't mind as well. >>=20 >> The Mumble desktop client can record the conversations, and it's >> even smart enough to offer recording all in one track or each >> person in its own track. It's very nice for podcasts, TBH (I >> honestly don't understand why people still use Skype for this, but >> that's another question...). >>=20 >> So yeah, you're welcome to leave your client connected and record, >> if you want. And while at it, if someone else wants to record as >> well, feel free to do so. >>=20 >>>> I guess I would use the same CC BY-ND 4.0 license that GNU uses >>>> ? >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>> My vote would be for a libre license, like CC BY or BY-SA. >>=20 >> Agreed. >>=20 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2 > Comment: Ensure confidentiality, authenticity, non-repudiability >=20 > iEYEARECAAYFAlby55UACgkQuRKJsNLM5ert5wCg0J7JFZQ66EKdJka7xPpD9lYm > PaQAn1rsrsTdmVs65ba2mrtX7vwy5t3d > =3Dje31 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >=20 --Apple-Mail=_296B05B2-BD30-49EF-AC4E-426B0646C272 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 It=E2=80=99s interesting that gnu.org itself doesn=E2=80=99t use a Free Culture = license. =46rom what I can tell (via <http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0>) that = means using one of:
  • CC BY = 4.0
  • CC BY-SA 4.0
So = I=E2=80=99ll go for CC BY 4.0 if that=E2=80=99s ok with everyone. I=E2=80=99= ll start recording before we leave (around 5pm) and stop when we get = home (around 11pm). Obviously I=E2=80=99ll edit it down to get rid of = silences.

Reid

On Wed Mar 23 2016, at 14:59 , Bob Jonkman <bjonkman@sobac.com> = wrote:
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I don't mind being recorded either, and would = prefer a Free Culture
license too.

- --Bob.


On = 2016-03-23 01:18 PM, Sergio Durigan Junior wrote:
On Wednesday, March 23 = 2016, Blaise Alleyne wrote:

On 23/03/16 10:01 AM, Reid Ellis wrote:
Long-time lurker, first = time poster here. :-)


Welcome!

Welcome, = too :-).


Any = chance the mumble meeting can be/is recorded so that we
lurking masses can listen to them later? [...] If there is = no
recording, is it ok to leave myself connected, = recording audio?
I could upload the (ogg encoded!) = recording to archive.org
later.

*shrugs* I = don't mind? Whether or not it can be recorded via
Mumble = would be a Sergio question I guess.

I = imagine as long as everyone in the meeting knows it's being
recorded, it's not a problem?

I don't mind as well.

The Mumble = desktop client can record the conversations, and it's
even = smart enough to offer recording all in one track or each
person in its own track.  It's very nice for podcasts, = TBH (I
honestly don't understand why people still use = Skype for this, but
that's another question...).

So yeah, you're welcome to leave your client = connected and record,
if you want.  And while at it, = if someone else wants to record as
well, feel free to do = so.

I guess I would use the = same CC BY-ND 4.0 license that GNU uses
<https://audio-video.gnu.org/audio/>?


My vote would be for a libre = license, like CC BY or BY-SA.

Agreed.

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On mumble during our meeting we can discuss, but so far I'd like to set up GNU social and Jabber, in particular the Prosody server which has federation enabled.

Choosing the VPS has been a little harder than usual because we want to pick a provider that supports free software. So far Gandi is the pick because they don't offer Windows services at all, unfortunately they don't go further and have core boot servers and I think their control panel is proprietary (waiting for a reply on that). 

Please feel free to suggest a free software friendly VPS. I'd like to move on this as soon as possible. 

-rudolf

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------=_Part_40360_366801677.1458859320638-- From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Mar 25 01:01:32 2016 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1ajJsK-0003im-6L for mharc-libreplanet-ca-on@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 01:01:32 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41231) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ajJsI-0003hi-48 for libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 01:01:31 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ajJsE-00079n-SE for libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 01:01:30 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:54866) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ajJsE-00079Q-LT for libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 01:01:26 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A0B4BgA731xV/3AZ9hhZA4MQVF6DHsIjhXUCgTw9EAEBAQEBAQGBCoQjAQEEIw8BIyIPAggDDQsCAgUWCwICCQMCAQIBCR4eBg0GAgEBEYgXDap/pBcBAQgBAQEBAR0EgR2KGYR1FxGCV4FFAQSXIYZPgSc+hgqHTmSDGoNZI4IJARyBbiIxgkcBAQE X-IPAS-Result: A0B4BgA731xV/3AZ9hhZA4MQVF6DHsIjhXUCgTw9EAEBAQEBAQGBCoQjAQEEIw8BIyIPAggDDQsCAgUWCwICCQMCAQIBCR4eBg0GAgEBEYgXDap/pBcBAQgBAQEBAR0EgR2KGYR1FxGCV4FFAQSXIYZPgSc+hgqHTmSDGoNZI4IJARyBbiIxgkcBAQE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.13,465,1427774400"; d="scan'208";a="198579911" Received: from 24-246-25-112.cable.teksavvy.com (HELO jonkman) ([24.246.25.112]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 25 Mar 2016 01:01:24 -0400 Received: from Spooler by jonkman (Mercury/32 v4.80.145) ID MO0001F7; 25 Mar 2016 01:01:09 -0400 Received: from spooler by kornbluth.sobac.com (Mercury/32 v4.80.149); 25 Mar 2016 01:00:49 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.100] (192.168.1.1) by sobac.com (Mercury/32 v4.80.145) with ESMTP ID MG0001F6; 25 Mar 2016 01:00:47 -0400 To: Libreplanet Canada Ontario References: <56DE6551.60406@blaise.ca> <56DFEB76.3030409@sobac.com> <56ED7AEF.6080601@blaise.ca> <871t74bn62.fsf@sergiodj.net> <56F21BC9.7090700@sobac.com> <3872CA72-E139-4E42-9E55-8E6AA51404A3@tnir.org> <56F2A790.7060102@blaise.ca> <87d1ql865q.fsf@sergiodj.net> <56F2E798.2040008@sobac.com> From: Bob Jonkman Openpgp: id=04F7742B8F54C40AE11526C2B91289B0D2CCE5EA; url=http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0xB91289B0D2CCE5EA Organization: SOBAC Microcomputer Services Message-ID: <56F4C60E.7040106@sobac.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 01:01:02 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.181 Subject: Re: [lp-ca-on] March Mumble Meeting X-BeenThere: libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "LibrePlanet Ontario, Canada Team" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 05:01:31 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Sorry we missed you, Reid. And everyone else too! I've put up the audio, including the raw .wav file (547 MBytes!!!), converted it to .ogg (36 MBytes, whew!) and some .ogg files in which I removed the silent pauses and tried to remove some of the noise (which mostly existed only on the audio when I was speaking). They're all available at https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:LibrePlanet_Ontario/Meeting_Notes#24_March_2016 The text channel is there too, but the timestamps will only match the full-length audio recordings, naturally. I should have declared a CC-BY (or even CC-0) in the metadata, but forgot. Maybe someone can update the wiki page if it's urgent and/or important. - --Bob. On 2016-03-23 03:39 PM, Reid Ellis wrote: > It’s interesting that gnu.org itself doesn’t use a Free Culture > license. From what I can tell (via > ) that means using one > of: CC BY 4.0 CC BY-SA 4.0 So I’ll go for CC BY 4.0 if that’s ok > with everyone. I’ll start recording before we leave (around 5pm) > and stop when we get home (around 11pm). Obviously I’ll edit it > down to get rid of silences. > > Reid > > On Wed Mar 23 2016, at 14:59 , Bob Jonkman > wrote: I don't mind being recorded either, and would prefer a Free > Culture license too. > > --Bob. > > > On 2016-03-23 01:18 PM, Sergio Durigan Junior wrote: >>>> On Wednesday, March 23 2016, Blaise Alleyne wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 23/03/16 10:01 AM, Reid Ellis wrote: >>>>>> Long-time lurker, first time poster here. :-) >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Welcome! >>>> >>>> Welcome, too :-). >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Any chance the mumble meeting can be/is recorded so that >>>>>> we lurking masses can listen to them later? [...] If >>>>>> there is no recording, is it ok to leave myself >>>>>> connected, recording audio? I could upload the (ogg >>>>>> encoded!) recording to archive.org later. >>>>> >>>>> *shrugs* I don't mind? Whether or not it can be recorded >>>>> via Mumble would be a Sergio question I guess. >>>>> >>>>> I imagine as long as everyone in the meeting knows it's >>>>> being recorded, it's not a problem? >>>> >>>> I don't mind as well. >>>> >>>> The Mumble desktop client can record the conversations, and >>>> it's even smart enough to offer recording all in one track or >>>> each person in its own track. It's very nice for podcasts, >>>> TBH (I honestly don't understand why people still use Skype >>>> for this, but that's another question...). >>>> >>>> So yeah, you're welcome to leave your client connected and >>>> record, if you want. And while at it, if someone else wants >>>> to record as well, feel free to do so. >>>> >>>>>> I guess I would use the same CC BY-ND 4.0 license that >>>>>> GNU uses ? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> My vote would be for a libre license, like CC BY or BY-SA. >>>> >>>> Agreed. - -- Bob Jonkman Phone: +1-519-635-9413 SOBAC Microcomputer Services http://sobac.com/sobac/ Software --- Office & Business Automation --- Consulting GnuPG Fngrprnt:04F7 742B 8F54 C40A E115 26C2 B912 89B0 D2CC E5EA -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 Comment: Ensure confidentiality, authenticity, non-repudiability iEYEARECAAYFAlb0xgsACgkQuRKJsNLM5erBXQCfQjngCdlfPdfHWzP87Dx0AKX9 TqgAoPkbsSwYtQxg2yfIhqgjXAZACbi5 =U0eM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Mar 25 01:28:57 2016 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1ajKIr-0006Tj-I0 for mharc-libreplanet-ca-on@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 01:28:57 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43896) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ajKIp-0006TP-69 for libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 01:28:55 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ajKIk-0003pg-7s for libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 01:28:55 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:47557) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ajKIk-0003pc-1X for libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 01:28:50 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A0DfBwA731xV/3AZ9hhcgxABgTGDHrIFAZAMh0Q8EQEBAQEBAQGBCoRMGg0IBCIZEBQWCwILAwIBAgEnN4gsmy+PXYVOnnWQXIJSgUUBBJR/iHGHb48lI4FTgiU+MYJHAQEB X-IPAS-Result: A0DfBwA731xV/3AZ9hhcgxABgTGDHrIFAZAMh0Q8EQEBAQEBAQGBCoRMGg0IBCIZEBQWCwILAwIBAgEnN4gsmy+PXYVOnnWQXIJSgUUBBJR/iHGHb48lI4FTgiU+MYJHAQEB X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.13,465,1427774400"; d="ics'?scan'208";a="198583849" Received: from 24-246-25-112.cable.teksavvy.com (HELO jonkman) ([24.246.25.112]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 25 Mar 2016 01:28:49 -0400 Received: from Spooler by jonkman (Mercury/32 v4.80.145) ID MO000207; 25 Mar 2016 01:28:34 -0400 Received: from spooler by kornbluth.sobac.com (Mercury/32 v4.80.149); 25 Mar 2016 01:28:15 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.100] (192.168.1.1) by sobac.com (Mercury/32 v4.80.145) with ESMTP ID MG000206; 25 Mar 2016 01:28:10 -0400 MIME-version: 1.0 From: Bob Jonkman Organization: SOBAC Microcomputer Services Message-ID: <56F4CC79.5010703@sobac.com> To: libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 05:28:25 GMT Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_qyG4ZdjoAsiZ+Jo19dCbWQ)" X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.181 Subject: [lp-ca-on] Event Invitation: Monthly LibrePlanet Ontario Meeting X-BeenThere: libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "LibrePlanet Ontario, Canada Team" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 05:28:56 -0000 --Boundary_(ID_qyG4ZdjoAsiZ+Jo19dCbWQ) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_ryU4ZdJoASiZ+Jo21dCbwA)" --Boundary_(ID_ryU4ZdJoASiZ+Jo21dCbwA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT bjonkman@sobac.com has invited you to Monthly LibrePlanet Ontario Meeting --Boundary_(ID_ryU4ZdJoASiZ+Jo21dCbwA) Content-type: text/calendar; method=REQUEST; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT BEGIN:VCALENDAR PRODID:-//Mozilla.org/NONSGML Mozilla Calendar V1.1//EN VERSION:2.0 METHOD:REQUEST BEGIN:VTIMEZONE TZID:America/Toronto BEGIN:DAYLIGHT TZOFFSETFROM:-0500 TZOFFSETTO:-0400 TZNAME:EDT DTSTART:19700308T020000 RRULE:FREQ=YEARLY;BYDAY=2SU;BYMONTH=3 END:DAYLIGHT BEGIN:STANDARD TZOFFSETFROM:-0400 TZOFFSETTO:-0500 TZNAME:EST DTSTART:19701101T020000 RRULE:FREQ=YEARLY;BYDAY=1SU;BYMONTH=11 END:STANDARD END:VTIMEZONE BEGIN:VEVENT CREATED:20160325T020807Z LAST-MODIFIED:20160325T052823Z DTSTAMP:20160325T052823Z UID:b8927102-493d-4bcb-a14f-4c3a1262a6c5 SUMMARY:Monthly LibrePlanet Ontario Meeting ORGANIZER;RSVP=TRUE;PARTSTAT=ACCEPTED;ROLE=CHAIR:mailto:bjonkman@sobac.com ATTENDEE;RSVP=TRUE;CN=Libreplanet Canada Ontario;PARTSTAT=NEEDS-ACTION;ROL E=REQ-PARTICIPANT:mailto:libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org RRULE:FREQ=MONTHLY;BYMONTHDAY=24 DTSTART;TZID=America/Toronto:20160424T210000 DTEND;TZID=America/Toronto:20160424T220000 TRANSP:OPAQUE DESCRIPTION:We thought that LibrePlanet Ontario could meet on the 24th of every month. That means it will fall on different days of the week\, so th at people who can't make it on a particular weekday aren't always left out .\n\nWe'll generaly meet on Mumble at \n\nmumble://libreplanetbr.org/Libre Planet%20Ontario?title=LibrePlanet%20SP%20Mumble%20Server&version=1.2.0\n\ nServer= libreplanetbr.org\nPort (default)= 64738\nChannel= LibrePlanet On tario\n\nThere may be the occassional field trip\, where KW folks may trek out to the Falls\, or Toronto folks go to Ottawa to have at least a parti al IRL meeting. 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That means it will fall on different days of the week\, so th at people who can't make it on a particular weekday aren't always left out .\n\nWe'll generaly meet on Mumble at \n\nmumble://libreplanetbr.org/Libre Planet%20Ontario?title=LibrePlanet%20SP%20Mumble%20Server&version=1.2.0\n\ nServer= libreplanetbr.org\nPort (default)= 64738\nChannel= LibrePlanet On tario\n\nThere may be the occassional field trip\, where KW folks may trek out to the Falls\, or Toronto folks go to Ottawa to have at least a parti al IRL meeting. CLASS:PUBLIC END:VEVENT END:VCALENDAR --Boundary_(ID_qyG4ZdjoAsiZ+Jo19dCbWQ)-- From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Mar 25 17:09:02 2016 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1ajYyc-0007G6-Gc for mharc-libreplanet-ca-on@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 17:09:02 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45778) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ajYya-0007Fi-1V for libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 17:09:01 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ajYyW-00041U-Qt for libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 17:08:59 -0400 Received: from sub3.mail.dreamhost.com ([69.163.253.7]:54409 helo=homiemail-a17.g.dreamhost.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ajYyW-00041L-GF for libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 17:08:56 -0400 Received: from homiemail-a17.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a17.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ECB52B2070 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 14:08:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=tnir.org; h=content-type :mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; s=tnir.org; bh=gsQFkHC3mxCcB3Hw6WffFaBrhco=; b=eaT4PPnQoBP0+iwLXX7nF5Y2z09Z rPnxZy4H3DXFYgzJ3zi2osBXv/gkJnK1BZy4EimhkNE15GpIOyDlzXaEMy+5P8NG 7paBM/LiA6AJGTyWaFvDYoIUYtY72t2k+IWpbaX6POQwprVbqzNY2AehwNwnmrDj gk9FeF7KYLNr+MM= Received: from [192.168.1.22] (76-10-128-217.dsl.teksavvy.com [76.10.128.217]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: rae@tnir.org) by homiemail-a17.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DC9BC2B206D for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2016 14:08:50 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) From: Reid Ellis In-Reply-To: <56F4C60E.7040106@sobac.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 17:08:49 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <538B0727-01D4-4613-93F5-179DB2205D2D@tnir.org> References: <56DE6551.60406@blaise.ca> <56DFEB76.3030409@sobac.com> <56ED7AEF.6080601@blaise.ca> <871t74bn62.fsf@sergiodj.net> <56F21BC9.7090700@sobac.com> <3872CA72-E139-4E42-9E55-8E6AA51404A3@tnir.org> <56F2A790.7060102@blaise.ca> <87d1ql865q.fsf@sergiodj.net> <56F2E798.2040008@sobac.com> <56F4C60E.7040106@sobac.com> To: Libreplanet Canada Ontario X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x (no timestamps) [generic] X-Received-From: 69.163.253.7 Subject: Re: [lp-ca-on] March Mumble Meeting X-BeenThere: libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "LibrePlanet Ontario, Canada Team" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 21:09:01 -0000 Ya sorry, my computer decided to reboot when I wasn=E2=80=99t looking/at = home. :-p Reid On Fri Mar 25 2016, at 01:01 , Bob Jonkman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 >=20 > Sorry we missed you, Reid. And everyone else too! >=20 > I've put up the audio, including the raw .wav file (547 MBytes!!!), > converted it to .ogg (36 MBytes, whew!) and some .ogg files in which I > removed the silent pauses and tried to remove some of the noise (which > mostly existed only on the audio when I was speaking). >=20 > They're all available at > = https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:LibrePlanet_Ontario/Meeting_Notes#24_Ma= rch_2016 >=20 > The text channel is there too, but the timestamps will only match the > full-length audio recordings, naturally. >=20 > I should have declared a CC-BY (or even CC-0) in the metadata, but > forgot. Maybe someone can update the wiki page if it's urgent and/or > important. >=20 > - --Bob. >=20 >=20 >=20 > On 2016-03-23 03:39 PM, Reid Ellis wrote: >> It=E2=80=99s interesting that gnu.org itself doesn=E2=80=99t use a = Free Culture >> license. =46rom what I can tell (via >> ) that means using one >> of: CC BY 4.0 CC BY-SA 4.0 So I=E2=80=99ll go for CC BY 4.0 if = that=E2=80=99s ok >> with everyone. I=E2=80=99ll start recording before we leave (around = 5pm) >> and stop when we get home (around 11pm). Obviously I=E2=80=99ll edit = it >> down to get rid of silences. >>=20 >> Reid >>=20 >> On Wed Mar 23 2016, at 14:59 , Bob Jonkman >> wrote: I don't mind being recorded either, and would prefer a Free >> Culture license too. >>=20 >> --Bob. >>=20 >>=20 >> On 2016-03-23 01:18 PM, Sergio Durigan Junior wrote: >>>>> On Wednesday, March 23 2016, Blaise Alleyne wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>>> On 23/03/16 10:01 AM, Reid Ellis wrote: >>>>>>> Long-time lurker, first time poster here. :-) >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Welcome! >>>>>=20 >>>>> Welcome, too :-). >>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Any chance the mumble meeting can be/is recorded so that >>>>>>> we lurking masses can listen to them later? [...] If >>>>>>> there is no recording, is it ok to leave myself >>>>>>> connected, recording audio? I could upload the (ogg >>>>>>> encoded!) recording to archive.org later. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> *shrugs* I don't mind? Whether or not it can be recorded >>>>>> via Mumble would be a Sergio question I guess. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> I imagine as long as everyone in the meeting knows it's >>>>>> being recorded, it's not a problem? >>>>>=20 >>>>> I don't mind as well. >>>>>=20 >>>>> The Mumble desktop client can record the conversations, and >>>>> it's even smart enough to offer recording all in one track or >>>>> each person in its own track. It's very nice for podcasts, >>>>> TBH (I honestly don't understand why people still use Skype >>>>> for this, but that's another question...). >>>>>=20 >>>>> So yeah, you're welcome to leave your client connected and >>>>> record, if you want. 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X-Received-From: 206.248.154.181 Subject: [lp-ca-on] Fwd: Thursday: Join 5 Engaged Citizens at "The Public Servant - A night at the theatre" X-BeenThere: libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "LibrePlanet Ontario, Canada Team" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2016 02:21:25 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050207040708080501080708 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 If anyone wants to participate in some education, activism or advocacy and get involved in an existing community, the Toronto Open Data group has regular meetups. 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X-Received-From: 206.248.154.181 Subject: [lp-ca-on] Fwd: Invitation: #maptime March 2016 - Geographers Without Borders - Matthew Adams X-BeenThere: libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "LibrePlanet Ontario, Canada Team" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 18:17:36 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040600030706060307060706 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 And another Toronto event that might appeal to Libre folks looking to extend our community: - -------- Forwarded Message -------- From: Toronto OpenStreetMap Enthusiasts Sender: info@meetup.com To: bjonkman@sobac.com Subject: Invitation: #maptime March 2016 - Geographers Without Borders - - Matthew Adams New Meetup #maptime March 2016 - Geographers Without Borders - Matthew Adams http://www.meetup.com/__ms13000909/OpenStreetMap-Toronto/events/22993676 1/ Toronto OpenStreetMap Enthusiasts Added by Richard W When: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 6:30 PM Where: Mozilla Community Space 366 Adelaide St. W, Suite 500 Toronto, ON Event details: It's #maptime again. #Maptime is time for learning and sharing knowledge at the intersection of "Maps" and "The Internet". Beginners are welcome. Bring your computer so that you can work on your projects. Maptime starts with short show and tell. Attendees demonstrate their current projects and share key lessons, or ask for assistance. Maptime proceeds with workshop time when attendees self-study, or assemble in ad-hoc groups for collaboration. Maptime is friendly, diverse and inclusive. Join us. Maptime is dedicated to providing a harassment-free experience for everyone, regardless of colour, ethnic origin, gender, gender identity and expression, sexual orientation, disability, physical appearance, body size, race, age or religion. We do not tolerate harassment of event participants in any form. Sexual language and imagery is not appropriate for our events. Participants violating these rules may be sanctioned or expelled from the event at the discretion of the organizer s. Speaker and Outline Our presentation this month is from Matthew Adams of Geographers Without Borders: "Geographers Without Borders – What is it? Who is it? And where are they headed?” Matthew Adams is one of the founding members of Geographers Without Borders and is currently a postdoctoral fellow at McMaster University. Geographers Without Borders is a growing organization that is focused on applied geography to support other non-profits, NGOs, and people who are working towards improving our communities. 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charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As I mentioned during our last Mumble meeting, I am interested in doing Fre= e=20 Culture awareness work at public festivals / events, and have done some in= =20 KW (used to back at UW, last year at Open Streets UtW). Question for Toronto people: are there any Toronto cultural events or=20 similar you can think of where boothing might be feasible + useful? 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I'll be in town from June 1st-June 8th, and suggesting we meet then... From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Mar 30 16:14:23 2016 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1alMVT-000440-2M for mharc-libreplanet-ca-on@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 16:14:23 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48557) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1alMVR-00043W-3G for libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 16:14:22 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1alMVM-0006nI-0f for libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 16:14:21 -0400 Received: from singpolyma.net ([184.107.182.218]:44513) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1alMVL-0006nC-Se for libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 16:14:15 -0400 Received: by singpolyma.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 65A8EF2117; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 20:14:15 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=singpolyma.net; s=iweb; t=1459368855; bh=oeHQwhKLSaoidod2jnIabwY0Y6pqFs/KKWo40SuAeMI=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:In-Reply-To; b=sM+rhkFSZcpfXSMV9v4L9dWtRMahCv56+E9wIndO+DVQJDqsV07gM1WfLrREOz3ji zB7yDTGv69XZljHWKDqixGWydmXAgiOxd1DSUuyNv0/pualeyKJEqMCFI62jufTRSt rfChMGiuo8dvfFlxfEt/tUxAxiUgmOrMeHLyw4SM= Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 15:14:14 -0500 From: Stephen Paul Weber To: Matt Lee Message-ID: <20160330201414.GG3080@singpolyma-liberty> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="uXxzq0nDebZQVNAZ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Jabber-ID: singpolyma@singpolyma.net OpenPGP: id=CE519CDE; url=https://singpolyma.net/public.asc X-URL: https://singpolyma.net User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 184.107.182.218 Cc: LibrePlanet , 0@psycoti.ca Subject: Re: [lp-ca-on] In town from June 1 - 8th X-BeenThere: libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "LibrePlanet Ontario, Canada Team" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 20:14:22 -0000 --uXxzq0nDebZQVNAZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >I'll be in Toronto during that time, if there's a desire to have=20 >a meeting... 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Awesome, let's schedule something around that week the= n, preferably midtown equidistant for everyone heh.

-rud= olf

On Wed, Mar = 30, 2016 at 4:14 PM Stephen Paul Weber <singpolyma@singpolyma.net> wrote:
>I'll be in Toronto during that time, if there= 9;s a desire to have
>a meeting...

I expect I'll be around in that period, also.

--
Stephen Paul Weber, @singpolyma
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--001a1147603cd61c7f052f4dbe89-- From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Mar 31 07:14:26 2016 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1alaYU-0006kx-Gu for mharc-libreplanet-ca-on@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 07:14:26 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60380) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1alaYN-0006je-V4 for libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 07:14:24 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1alaYK-0003Fn-MZ for libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 07:14:19 -0400 Received: from w1.tutanota.de ([81.3.6.162]:39151) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1alaYK-0003Fa-Cu for libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 07:14:16 -0400 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by w1.tutanota.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 250A1FA836F for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 11:14:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from w1.tutanota.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (w1.tutanota.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RkMtOJZQ641G for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 11:14:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from w1.tutanota.de (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by w1.tutanota.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DD25FA839E for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 11:13:37 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 12:13:37 +0100 (BST) From: Rudolf Olah To: LibrePlanet Ontario Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_22373_155493037.1459422817047" X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 81.3.6.162 Subject: Re: [lp-ca-on] Projects and common hosted GNU social and Jabber/XMPP X-BeenThere: libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "LibrePlanet Ontario, Canada Team" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 11:14:24 -0000 ------=_Part_22373_155493037.1459422817047 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi everyone, I've got a server up and running on Gandi http://www.gandi.net. It's a litt= le=20 annoying that I had to pay extra for IPv4 but IPv6 is apparently barely=20 supported and I can't convince the routers to act as IPv6 routes ;-) https://prosody.im Prosody's default config lacks encryption but it's good= =20 enough that you only need to add a VirtualHost with a domain and some=20 accounts and it'll work. Right now I have to add the accounts manually. I= =20 also added the MUC Multi User Chat component so Jabber/XMPP can act like IR= C. Federation is acting funky at the moment, I'm trying to talk to myself usin= g=20 the FSF jabber account (become a member of the FSF to get=20 one:=C2=A0https://fsf.org/associate/benefits) and it isn't working, will so= rt it=20 out later. I'm installing ownCloud but I think 1gb RAM won't be enough when I get arou= nd=20 to install GNU Social and Murmer (the Mumble server). If anyone wants accounts for Jabber (or the other stuff that will eventuall= y=20 be setup), let me know-rudolf -- Securely sent with Tutanota. Claim your encrypted mailbox today! https://tutanota.com 24. Mar 2016 18:42 by rudolfolah@tuta.io: > Just created a small section for projects on the LibrePlanet wiki: >= =20 > https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:LibrePlanet_Ontario#Projects > On mumble during our meeting we can discuss, but so far I'd like to set u= p=20 > GNU social and Jabber, in particular the Prosody server which has=20 > federation enabled. > Choosing the VPS has been a little harder than usual because we want to= =20 > pick a provider that supports free software. So far Gandi is the pick=20 > because they don't offer Windows services at all, unfortunately they don'= t=20 > go further and have core boot servers and I think their control panel is= =20 > proprietary (waiting for a reply on that).=C2=A0 > Please feel free to suggest a free software friendly VPS. I'd like to mov= e=20 > on this as soon as possible.=C2=A0 > -rudolf > -- > Securely sent with Tutanota. Claim your encrypted mailbox today! > https://tutanota.com ------=_Part_22373_155493037.1459422817047 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi everyone,

I've got a server up and running on= Gandi http://www.gandi= .net. It's a little annoying that I had to pay extra for IPv4 but IPv6 = is apparently barely supported and I can't convince the routers to act as I= Pv6 routes ;-)

https://prosody.im Prosody's default config lacks encryptio= n but it's good enough that you only need to add a VirtualHost with a domai= n and some accounts and it'll work. Right now I have to add the accounts ma= nually. I also added the MUC Multi User Chat component so Jabber/XMPP can a= ct like IRC.

Federation is acting funky at the m= oment, I'm trying to talk to myself using the FSF jabber account (become a = member of the FSF to get one: https://fsf.org/associate/benefits) and it isn= 't working, will sort it out later.

I'm installi= ng ownCloud but I think 1gb RAM won't be enough when I get around to instal= l GNU Social and Murmer (the Mumble server).

If = anyone wants accounts for Jabber (or the other stuff that will eventually b= e setup), let me know
-rudolf

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24. Mar 2016 18:42 by rudolfolah@tuta.io:

=20 =20 Just created a small section for projects on the LibrePlanet wiki: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:LibrePlanet_Ontario#Projects=

On mumble during our meeting we can discuss, but = so far I'd like to set up GNU social and Jabber, in particular the Prosody = server which has federation enabled.

Choosing th= e VPS has been a little harder than usual because we want to pick a provide= r that supports free software. So far Gandi is the pick because they don't = offer Windows services at all, unfortunately they don't go further and have= core boot servers and I think their control panel is proprietary (waiting = for a reply on that). 

Please feel free to = suggest a free software friendly VPS. I'd like to move on this as soon as p= ossible. 

-rudolf

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------=_Part_22373_155493037.1459422817047-- From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Mar 31 07:59:24 2016 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1albG0-0004Hj-G8 for mharc-libreplanet-ca-on@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 07:59:24 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40919) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1albFx-0004Ha-5a for libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 07:59:22 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1albFt-0005n7-Sp for libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 07:59:21 -0400 Received: from w1.tutanota.de ([81.3.6.162]:42706) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1albFt-0005mz-IG for libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 07:59:17 -0400 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by w1.tutanota.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02246FA82F0 for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 11:59:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from w1.tutanota.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (w1.tutanota.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qE_vrzOtrFMU for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 11:59:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from w1.tutanota.de (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by w1.tutanota.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 614C9FA82EB for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 11:59:13 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 12:59:13 +0100 (BST) From: Rudolf Olah To: LibrePlanet Ontario Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_22813_1408936486.1459425553389" X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 81.3.6.162 Subject: Re: [lp-ca-on] Projects and common hosted GNU social and Jabber/XMPP X-BeenThere: libreplanet-ca-on@libreplanet.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "LibrePlanet Ontario, Canada Team" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 11:59:22 -0000 ------=_Part_22813_1408936486.1459425553389 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable and just got owncloud installed. the interface is nice and the calendar is = a=20 good app. This is pretty straight forward so far. HTTPS and all the password and=20 configuration seems to be the major issue (plus domain name and server=20 purchasing) in terms of user (un-)friendliness. I'm going to start putting together a presentation on this stuff; at work= =20 we're using google drive and dropbox and owncloud...it's way better not jus= t=20 for freedom reasons but in terms of quality and price which makes it easier= =20 to convince people to use it (not everyone is a fan of software freedom=20 unfortunately). feel free to ask for an account for owncloud -rudolf -- Securely sent with Tutanota. Claim your encrypted mailbox today! https://tutanota.com 31. Mar 2016 07:13 by rudolfolah@tuta.io: > > Hi everyone, > I've got a server up and running on Gandi > http://www.gandi.net> . It's = a=20 > little annoying that I had to pay extra for IPv4 but IPv6 is apparently= =20 > barely supported and I can't convince the routers to act as IPv6 routes ;= -) > https://prosody.im> Prosody's default config lacks encryption but it's= =20 > good enough that you only need to add a VirtualHost with a domain and som= e=20 > accounts and it'll work. Right now I have to add the accounts manually. I= =20 > also added the MUC Multi User Chat component so Jabber/XMPP can act like= =20 > IRC. > Federation is acting funky at the moment, I'm trying to talk to myself=20 > using the FSF jabber account (become a member of the FSF to get one:=C2= =A0>=20 > https://fsf.org/associate/benefits> ) and it isn't working, will sort it= =20 > out later. > I'm installing ownCloud but I think 1gb RAM won't be enough when I get=20 > around to install GNU Social and Murmer (the Mumble server). > If anyone wants accounts for Jabber (or the other stuff that will=20 > eventually be setup), let me know> -rudolf > -- > Securely sent with Tutanota. Claim your encrypted mailbox today! > https://tutanota.com > > 24. Mar 2016 18:42 by > rudolfolah@tuta.io> : > > >> Just created a small section for projects on the LibrePlanet wiki: >= >=20 >> https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:LibrePlanet_Ontario#Projects >> On mumble during our meeting we can discuss, but so far I'd like to set = up=20 >> GNU social and Jabber, in particular the Prosody server which has=20 >> federation enabled. >> Choosing the VPS has been a little harder than usual because we want to= =20 >> pick a provider that supports free software. So far Gandi is the pick=20 >> because they don't offer Windows services at all, unfortunately they don= 't=20 >> go further and have core boot servers and I think their control panel is= =20 >> proprietary (waiting for a reply on that).=C2=A0 >> Please feel free to suggest a free software friendly VPS. I'd like to mo= ve=20 >> on this as soon as possible.=C2=A0 >> -rudolf >> -- >> Securely sent with Tutanota. Claim your encrypted mailbox today! >> https://tutanota.com ------=_Part_22813_1408936486.1459425553389 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable and just got owncloud installed. the interface is nice and the calendar is = a good app.

This is pretty straight forward so far. HT= TPS and all the password and configuration seems to be the major issue (plu= s domain name and server purchasing) in terms of user (un-)friendliness.

I'm going to start putting together a presentation= on this stuff; at work we're using google drive and dropbox and owncloud..= .it's way better not just for freedom reasons but in terms of quality and p= rice which makes it easier to convince people to use it (not everyone is a = fan of software freedom unfortunately).

feel fre= e to ask for an account for owncloud

-rudolf

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31. Mar 2016 07:13 by rudolfolah@tuta.io:

=20 =20
Hi everyone,

I've got a server up and running on= Gandi http://www.gandi= .net. It's a little annoying that I had to pay extra for IPv4 but IPv6 = is apparently barely supported and I can't convince the routers to act as I= Pv6 routes ;-)

https://prosody.im Prosody's default config lacks encryptio= n but it's good enough that you only need to add a VirtualHost with a domai= n and some accounts and it'll work. Right now I have to add the accounts ma= nually. I also added the MUC Multi User Chat component so Jabber/XMPP can a= ct like IRC.

Federation is acting funky at the m= oment, I'm trying to talk to myself using the FSF jabber account (become a = member of the FSF to get one: https://fsf.org/associate/benefits) and it isn= 't working, will sort it out later.

I'm installi= ng ownCloud but I think 1gb RAM won't be enough when I get around to instal= l GNU Social and Murmer (the Mumble server).

If = anyone wants accounts for Jabber (or the other stuff that will eventually b= e setup), let me know
-rudolf

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24. Mar 2016 18:42 by rudolfolah@tuta.io:

=20 =20 Just created a small section for projects on the LibrePlanet wiki: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:LibrePlanet_Ontario#Projects=

On mumble during our meeting we can discuss, but = so far I'd like to set up GNU social and Jabber, in particular the Prosody = server which has federation enabled.

Choosing th= e VPS has been a little harder than usual because we want to pick a provide= r that supports free software. So far Gandi is the pick because they don't = offer Windows services at all, unfortunately they don't go further and have= core boot servers and I think their control panel is proprietary (waiting = for a reply on that). 

Please feel free to = suggest a free software friendly VPS. I'd like to move on this as soon as p= ossible. 

-rudolf

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