From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 01 00:05:37 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BfspM-0001wd-Q2 for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 00:05:36 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BfspK-0001tc-KO for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 00:05:34 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BfspJ-0001rZ-Ev for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 00:05:34 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BfspJ-0001rQ-Cb; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 00:05:33 -0400 Received: from [61.97.159.182] (helo=wrob.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BfsnV-0002dq-Oy; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 00:03:42 -0400 Received: from 160.210.205.17 by smtp.abast.es; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 04:02:15 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Amparo Belcher" To: lilypond-user@gnu.org, lilypond-devel@gnu.org Subject: $12882 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 23:01:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 04:05:35 -0000 Hello, I sent you an email a few days ago, because you now qualify for a new mortgage. 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The problem here is certainly that the proposed solution was intended for another version of LilyPond than what you currently have. However, this is easily solved using the convert-ly program. So, try to figure out from the email you found, what version it was intended for, say version 2.0.0. Then, copy the lines of code into a file, say myfile.ly and run the command convert-ly -e --from=2.0.0 myfile.ly Then, the file contents should be updated to work with your version of LilyPond, so you could just copy the lines into your score. /Mats John Sellers wrote: > Newbee question: > I was doing a simple lead sheet with repeats and alternatives and had > trouble with the chordnames being above the alternative ending brackets > rather than between the brackets and the staff, which is the usual way > of doing lead sheets. > > I got some help which lead me to a solution to this problem posted in > Feb., and after playing got part of it working: > > \score { > \notes << > \context ChordNames { > \set chordChanges = ##t > \harmonies > } > \context Staff = one \melody > \set verticalExtent = #' (-1 . 3.5) > \set minimumVerticalExtent = #'(-1 . 1) > >> > > \paper{ > % \translator { > % \StaffContext > % VoltaBracket \override #'padding = #3 %pts > % } > > > The part that is flagged out is an exact quote from the solution > posting, but the translator escape is not recognized by lilypond in my > case. What should I do to get the VoltaBracket padding modification to > work? Translators are completely beyond my newbee experience. > > Thanks, John Sellers, fiddle player, violinist, and Former Smalltalker > _______________________________________________ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- ============================================= Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: mats.bengtsson@s3.kth.se WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe ============================================= From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 01 04:35:39 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bfx2g-0005RK-RG for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 04:35:39 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bfx2d-0005Q3-Eq for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 04:35:35 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bfx2a-0005NL-B1 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 04:35:32 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bfx2a-0005My-33 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 04:35:32 -0400 Received: from [130.237.43.24] (helo=iris.s3.kth.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bfx0j-0001is-5F for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 04:33:37 -0400 Received: from localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.md.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7933261C2D; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 10:33:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se ([130.237.43.24]) by localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id 01731-07; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 10:33:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6887C61C5F; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 10:33:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [130.237.50.49] (drongo.s3.kth.se [130.237.50.49]) by iris.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 453F861C2D; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 10:33:35 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <40E3CC5F.40801@s3.kth.se> Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 10:33:35 +0200 From: Mats Bengtsson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Will Oram Subject: Re: Making a lilypond-book -- IT WORKS...sort of References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 08:35:36 -0000 Will Oram wrote: > As is typical with me, I misread the instructions for lilypond-book > --process. After some toying around, I got it to build at last. > > There are some problems, however. One is that nothing in \header {} > (found in header.ly) is printed in the final output. This is not a > terrible problem; I can insert anything missing in TeX. See the information on titling at http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.2/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Integrating-LaTeX-and-music.html#Integrating%20LaTeX%20and%20music However, you will need version 2.2.3 since earlier 2.2.x versions had a bug. If you don't want to upgrade, I have described a workaround in several emails found in the mailing list archives. > A more serious problem is that I can't seem to have multiple > \lilypondfile's in one .tex file. This is my code: > > \documentclass[a4paper]{opera} > \begin{document} > > \title {Violin Concerto in D Major} > \subtitle {Opus 35} > \author {Peter Ilyitch Tchaikovsky} > \date {\today} > \maketitle > > \begin{center} > {\huge{I. Allegro Moderato}} \\ > \end{center} > \lilypondfile{mvmt1/mvmt1.ly} > > \begin{center} > {\huge{III. Finale}} \\ > \end{center} > \lilypondfile{mvmt3/mvmt3.ly} > > \end{document} > > The resulting output is the title page, mvmt1 header, mvmt1, NO header > at all, mvmt1 AGAIN. What's up? I tried your example with some small files in mvmt1.ly and mvmt3.ly and it works fine here. You can hopefully get a hint on what's up if you run lilypond-book with the additional flag --verbose and also take a careful look at the printouts from LaTeX. I recommend to remove all lily-*.ly files first to make sure that lilypond-book reruns all the steps. /Mats From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 01 05:17:40 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BfxhM-0004sf-Fo for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 05:17:40 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BfxhK-0004qQ-Sn for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 05:17:38 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BfxhJ-0004nd-6i for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 05:17:38 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BfxhJ-0004nT-41 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 05:17:37 -0400 Received: from [130.237.43.24] (helo=iris.s3.kth.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bfxf3-0003cM-L4 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 05:15:18 -0400 Received: from localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.md.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 989B261B45; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 11:15:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se ([130.237.43.24]) by localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id 03055-09; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 11:15:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7563C61BBE; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 11:15:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [130.237.50.49] (drongo.s3.kth.se [130.237.50.49]) by iris.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0512861B45; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 11:15:15 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <40E3D623.6080008@s3.kth.se> Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 11:15:15 +0200 From: Mats Bengtsson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pom@debats.ch Subject: Re: After install problem References: <40DFCD81.3060302@debats.ch> In-Reply-To: <40DFCD81.3060302@debats.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 09:17:39 -0000 It looks as if the installation failed half way through, for some weird reason. Try to rerun setup.exe once again and choose "Reinstall" for the lilypond package (or run setup twice, first removing then installing the package again). /Mats Pom wrote: > Hello ! > > I have a classical "after installation" problem on Windows XP with > cygwin. I installed like shown on installation page (from cygwin > installer), and this error appears (I have : > > C:\temp>lilypond-bin test2.ly > > Now processing `test2.ly' > Parsing... > Interpreting music... error: can't find `feta20.afm' > Fonts have not been installed properly. Aborting > > C:\temp>kpsewhich test2.ly > test2.ly > > > test2.ly contains: > > C:\temp>cat test2.ly > \score { > \notes { c'4 e' g' } > } > > and just the command "lilypond" does not exist in my cygwin/bin > directory, neither in other ?bin directory. > > What can I do to resolve this problem ? > > Thanks. > > Best regards, > > Tadeusz > > > > > _______________________________________________ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- ============================================= Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: mats.bengtsson@s3.kth.se WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe ============================================= From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 01 05:26:36 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bfxq0-0001i6-7b for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 05:26:36 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bfxpy-0001gf-MP for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 05:26:34 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bfxpx-0001gT-H5 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 05:26:34 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bfxpx-0001gQ-DM for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 05:26:33 -0400 Received: from [130.237.43.24] (helo=iris.s3.kth.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bfxnr-00024R-06 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 05:24:23 -0400 Received: from localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.md.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id E41CA61AC6; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 11:24:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se ([130.237.43.24]) by localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id 03404-07; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 11:24:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id B461761C04; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 11:24:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [130.237.50.49] (drongo.s3.kth.se [130.237.50.49]) by iris.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBA3D61AC6; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 11:24:18 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <40E3D842.9040006@s3.kth.se> Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 11:24:18 +0200 From: Mats Bengtsson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tim Sawyer Subject: Re: Coda Wheel and Sign not printing References: <200406261330.19724.lists@calidris.co.uk> <200406261905.24772.ersa9195@student.uu.se> <200406271239.39292.lists@calidris.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <200406271239.39292.lists@calidris.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 09:26:34 -0000 Tim Sawyer wrote: > On Saturday 26 Jun 2004 18:05, Erik Sandberg wrote: > >>On Saturday 26 June 2004 14.30, Tim Sawyer wrote: >> >>>e4. e8 e8 e8 e4 e8 e4 e8 e8 e8 e8 e8 e8 e8 e4. r4. \mark #'(music >>>"scripts-segno") \bar "||" e8 e8 e8 e8 e8 e8 e4. e4. e8 e8 e8 e8 e8 e8 >>>e4. r4. \mark #'(music "scripts-coda") \bar "||" e8^"To Coda" e8 e8 e4 >>>e8 e8 e8 e8 e4 e8 e4 e8 e8 e8 e8 e4. r4.^"D.S. al Coda" \bar "|." >> >>Try running convert-ly on your file. Also, I would recommend you to use >>lilypond version 2.2.x. > > > My apologies, I didn't include enough info. > > I'm building using lilypond-book, then running latex. I'm not sure how to run > convert-ly in this context. I'm running on Gentoo Linux if that helps, > lilypond 2.0.3 is the latest stable version there. You could try to run convert-ly on your LaTeX file with the included lilypond code, but make sure to check afterwards that it didn't destroy any of rest of the document. As an alternative, just copy the relevant lines of LilyPond code into a separate .ly file, and run convert-ly on that to see what is changed. However, I'm not sure that convert-ly can handle the text markup code, so you may have to read the manual yourself to find out the new syntax, see http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.0/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Text-markup.html#Text%20markup Version 2.2.x contains a completely new version of lilypond-book that can run convert-ly selectively only on the lilypond code. /Mats From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 01 07:42:52 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bfzxs-0002u7-Fr for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 07:42:52 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bfzxq-0002to-U1 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 07:42:50 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bfzxo-0002tc-Jv for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 07:42:50 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bfzxo-0002tZ-Fd for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 07:42:48 -0400 Received: from [130.237.43.24] (helo=iris.s3.kth.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bfzvh-00005S-JM for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 07:40:37 -0400 Received: from localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.md.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2916561B31; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 13:40:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se ([130.237.43.24]) by localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id 07758-07; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 13:40:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05B9F61B5F; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 13:40:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [130.237.50.49] (drongo.s3.kth.se [130.237.50.49]) by iris.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id D899961B3E; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 13:40:34 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <40E3F833.8080601@s3.kth.se> Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 13:40:35 +0200 From: Mats Bengtsson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin Birks Subject: Re: Problem with lilypond References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 11:42:51 -0000 See http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2004-04/msg00034.html /Mats Martin Birks wrote: > I have downloaded lilypond but unfortunately it doesn't seem to work, i got a test PDF appear, but throughout the running of the process i got several messages saying that python 2 had caused errors. I hope you can help me find out whats wrong and correct the problem > > Thankyou Martin > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- ============================================= Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: mats.bengtsson@s3.kth.se WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe ============================================= From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 01 08:06:52 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg0L5-0004sZ-Tk for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 08:06:51 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg0L4-0004sC-2t for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 08:06:50 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg0L1-0004rX-Hh for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 08:06:49 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg0Hx-0003Dc-A6 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 08:03:37 -0400 Received: from [152.66.115.1] (helo=nic.bme.hu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bg0Ft-0005Oq-9H for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 08:01:29 -0400 Received: from gep2 (gep2.iit.bme.hu [152.66.241.161]) by nic.bme.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E7728376; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 14:01:27 +0200 (CEST) From: "Bertalan Fodor" To: "'Mats Bengtsson'" , "'Martin Birks'" Subject: RE: Problem with lilypond Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 14:02:07 +0200 Message-ID: <004501c45f63$3ba2e9f0$a1f14298@inf.iit.bme.hu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 In-Reply-To: <40E3F833.8080601@s3.kth.se> Importance: Normal Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 12:06:50 -0000 One more thing: I think we can say now that due to the Cygwin Python package LilyPond may not work on Windows 98. Bert From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 01 08:51:24 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg12C-0007dj-9n for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 08:51:24 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg12A-0007de-JT for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 08:51:22 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg129-0007cX-Ae for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 08:51:22 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg129-0007cU-90 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 08:51:21 -0400 Received: from [130.237.43.24] (helo=iris.s3.kth.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bg10J-0002yq-92 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 08:49:27 -0400 Received: from localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.md.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFEE461B1C; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 14:49:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se ([130.237.43.24]) by localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id 10081-05; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 14:49:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED1B61B33; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 14:49:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [130.237.50.49] (drongo.s3.kth.se [130.237.50.49]) by iris.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64B7361B1C; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 14:49:23 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <40E40853.808@s3.kth.se> Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 14:49:23 +0200 From: Mats Bengtsson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LEGRAND Jean-Marc Subject: Re: flag position References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 12:51:22 -0000 The problem is that the rhythm is incorrect. Each of the first 8 bars is one 32:nd note longer than 4/4. I see that you have turned off the ordinary timing, but LilyPond will still keep track of the timing and deterine the beaming and some other layout decisions based on it. I propose to use an alternative route, namely to "correct" the durations in the input, so that for example the MIDI output sounds as you would play it. Still, you can keep the original notation in the printed output. There are several possibilities to do this, but I suggest to use the trick described at http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.0/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Durations.html#Durations namely to write the first bar as d8. \stopped [a'32*2/3 a a] d,8 [a' d, a'] | This means that the printed output still will contain the three 32:nd notes, but LilyPond will internally handle them as a triplet. (An alternative would be to use the ordinary support for triplets: \times 2/3 { a32 a a }, but then you would have to turn off the triplet number.) This has several advantages, in addition to the problem you mention. For example that LilyPond will print the bar lines correctly (if you remove your setting of Score.timing). As you can see above, I also added a bar check at the end of the bar, which means that LilyPond will give you a warning when it thinks that the timing isn't correct. This is very useful, not the least in situations like these where you want to play some tricks with the durations. /Mats LEGRAND Jean-Marc wrote: > Hi all of you ! > > my new problem deals with flag position. > > My text is, with Lilypond 2.0 on Windows : > > > %31ème couplet > \score { > \notes { > \clef alto > \key d\minor > \time 3/4 > \relative c' { > \property Voice.Script \set #'padding = #1 > \property Score.timing = ##f > d8.\stopped [a'32 a a] d,8 [a' d, a'] \bar "|" > cis,8.[\breathe a'32 a a] cis,8 [a' a, a'] \bar "|" > d,8.\stopped [a'32 a a] d,8 [a' f d] \bar "|" > c8. [g'32 g g] c,8 [g' c, e] \bar "|" > f,8. [f'32 f f] f,8 [f' f, a] \bar "|" > \appoggiatura {\stemDown \slurUp c,16} g'8. [e'32 e e] c,8 [e' c, bes'] \bar "|" > \appoggiatura {\stemDown \slurUp d,16} f8. [d'32 d d] d,8 [d' d, f] > \clef F \bar "|" > \appoggiatura {\stemDown \slurUp a,16} e'8. [cis'32 cis cis] a,8 [cis' a, g'] \bar "|" > d16 a' a a f a a a d, a' a a \bar "|" > cis, a' a a e a a a cis, a' a a \bar "|" > d, a' a a f a a a d, b' b b \bar "|" > c, c' c c c,16 c' c c c,16 bes' bes bes \bar "|" > \clef alto > f f' f f a, f' f f f, f' f f \bar "|" > c, e' e e g,16 e' e e c,16 bes' bes bes \bar "|" > f d' d d \clef F a, cis' cis cis e, cis' cis cis \bar "|" > \appoggiatura {\stemDown \slurUp \property Voice.Beam \override #'positions = #'(-3 . -1) > d,16 [f a]} d2. > \bar "||"} > \break > } > \header { piece="\\newpage 31ème couplet"} > \paper {} > } > > In the first measure, it's OK : [a'32 a a] are well grouped together. > But in the second and sixth measures, the firts of these three notes has its flag on the left, so > that the two last are well grouped together, but there's a gap between first and second note. I > don't know if I'm clear, but I do need somme help ! > > > > _______________________________________________ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- ============================================= Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: mats.bengtsson@s3.kth.se WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe ============================================= From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 01 08:54:53 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg15Z-0000CJ-Em for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 08:54:53 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg15X-0000Bs-GI for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 08:54:51 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg15V-0000BI-Fw for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 08:54:50 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg15V-0000BF-C0 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 08:54:49 -0400 Received: from [130.237.43.24] (helo=iris.s3.kth.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bg13Z-0005Fj-G3 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 08:52:50 -0400 Received: from localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.md.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8881E61B1C; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 14:52:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se ([130.237.43.24]) by localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id 10141-05; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 14:52:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F72B61B33; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 14:52:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [130.237.50.49] (drongo.s3.kth.se [130.237.50.49]) by iris.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B47E61B1C; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 14:52:47 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <40E4091F.4010606@s3.kth.se> Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 14:52:47 +0200 From: Mats Bengtsson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bertalan Fodor Subject: Re: Drawing program to tweak lilypond output? References: <000b01c45455$b051a2f0$a1f14298@inf.iit.bme.hu> In-Reply-To: <000b01c45455$b051a2f0$a1f14298@inf.iit.bme.hu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 'lilypond-user' X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 12:54:51 -0000 I definitely recommend to do as many tweaks as possible from within LilyPond itself. The reason is that even the final version of a score often contains one or more mistakes that you want to correct later. This means that you often would have to do these manual corrections two or three times, so even if it's quicker to use a drawing program the first time you do the correction, it will in the end take longer than the additional time to find out how to do it in the .ly file. /Mats Bertalan Fodor wrote: > Hello, > > When finishing a document I would find it useful if there were a free > (gratis) vector drawing program that can import LilyPond's PS, so I > could beautify some parts of the score manually. Is there anything out > there for this purpose? > > Thanks, > > Bert > _______________________________________________ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- ============================================= Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: mats.bengtsson@s3.kth.se WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe ============================================= From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 01 09:01:21 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg1Bo-0003Ik-Q3 for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 09:01:20 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg1Bn-0003HF-2m for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 09:01:19 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg1Bl-0003Fe-Ek for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 09:01:18 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg1Bl-0003FR-AR for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 09:01:17 -0400 Received: from [130.237.43.24] (helo=iris.s3.kth.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bg19u-00011v-5B for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 08:59:22 -0400 Received: from localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.md.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 353C861B57; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 14:59:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se ([130.237.43.24]) by localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id 10421-03; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 14:59:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB46D61B45; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 14:59:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [130.237.50.49] (drongo.s3.kth.se [130.237.50.49]) by iris.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9993861B33; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 14:59:19 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <40E40AA7.3060101@s3.kth.se> Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 14:59:19 +0200 From: Mats Bengtsson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: TS Sunhede Fulk Subject: Re: Papersize switching References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 13:01:19 -0000 The problem is that dvips has its own opinion on what paper size to use. You can set the default paper size in dvips by running the command 'texconfig' as root. Otherwise, add the flag dvips -t a4 ... Normally, ps2pdf should copy the page size from the input file, otherwise you may have to add the flag ps2pdf -sPAPERSIZE=a4 ... as well. /Mats TS Sunhede Fulk wrote: > This is a strange problem. > > I've been working on a songbook using lilypond-book and Latex. In the > .tex file, I specified that I wanted a4 paper > ("\documentclass[a4paper]{book}"). However, the final .pdf file is U.S. > letter. > > Here are the commands that I used to produce the .pdf (all from the > manual). > lilypond-book --output=out filename.tex > cd out > latex filename > dvips -Ppdf -u +lilypond filename > ps2pdf filename.ps > > The .tex file that was created by lilypond-book has the same > \documentclass line as the original, so it must be something that one of > the the other programs is doing. > > Does anyone have any idea why this is happening? > > Thanks in advance, > Ted S. Sunhede Fulk > Örebro, Sweden > > > _______________________________________________ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-use > r -- ============================================= Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: mats.bengtsson@s3.kth.se WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe ============================================= From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 01 09:24:52 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg1Ya-0003V2-1F for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 09:24:52 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg1YY-0003Uo-EG for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 09:24:50 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg1YW-0003Uc-Pc for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 09:24:50 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg1YW-0003UZ-MX for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 09:24:48 -0400 Received: from [209.143.0.74] (helo=hagus.bright.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bg1WT-0007ZQ-Nk; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 09:22:41 -0400 Received: from bright.net (cpe-69-135-234-192.woh.rr.com [69.135.234.192]) by hagus.bright.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i61DMd5M014491; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 09:22:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <40E41AD8.9020407@bright.net> Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 10:08:24 -0400 From: Dave Phillips User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4.2) Gecko/20040308 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Greetings and a question References: <40E2C293.3000803@s3.kth.se> <40E2D0E1.4060205@bright.net> <3or7rwwtk0.fsf@tba.elte.hu> <40E35886.2090404@bright.net> <871xjwwpc6.fsf@peder.flower> In-Reply-To: <871xjwwpc6.fsf@peder.flower> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Jan Nieuwenhuizen X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 13:24:50 -0000 Hi Jan: I'll check out the CVS abc2ly today. Meanwhile, here's what's happening with my current versions of things (Planet CCRMA RH9, LilyPond 2.2.0) : [dlphilp@localhost dlphilp]$ abc2ly BachCelloPrelude.abc abc2ly from LilyPond 2.2.0 Parsing `BachCelloPrelude.abc'... Line ... lilypond output to: `BachCelloPrelude.ly'... [dlphilp@localhost dlphilp]$ lilypond BachCelloPrelude.ly lilypond (GNU LilyPond) 2.2.0 Running lilypond-bin... Now processing `BachCelloPrelude.ly' Parsing... /home/dlphilp/BachCelloPrelude.ly:14:38: error: parse error, unexpected BAR, expecting NOTENAME_PITCH or DRUM_PITCH or '>': \time 4/4 \key d \major < \ba r "|." d'16 ^"A"( a'16 fis''16 -) [snip many similar messages] Backtrace: In /usr/share/lilypond/2.2.0/scm/music-functions.scm: 429: 1* (let ((es #) (e #)) (if (pair? es) (# m # ...)) ...) 431: 2* (if (pair? es) ((setter ly:music-property) m (quote elements) ...)) 432: 3 [ly:music-set-property! # elements ... 432: 4* [map # (#)] In /usr/share/guile/1.6/srfi/srfi-1.scm: 637: 5 (if (null? rest) (map1 f list1) ...) ... 624: 6 (let ((ret (list #))) (letrec ((lp #)) (lp (cdr ls) ret))) 624: 7* [list ... 624: 8* [voicify-music #] In /usr/share/lilypond/2.2.0/scm/music-functions.scm: 429: 9 (let ((es #) (e #)) (if (pair? es) (# m # ...)) ...) 433: 10* (if (ly:music? e) ((setter ly:music-property) m (quote element) ...)) 434: 11 [ly:music-set-property! # element ... 434: 12* [voicify-music #] 429: 13 (let ((es #) (e #)) (if (pair? es) (# m # ...)) ...) 431: 14* (if (pair? es) ((setter ly:music-property) m (quote elements) ...)) 432: 15 [ly:music-set-property! # elements ... 432: 16* [map # (#)] In /usr/share/guile/1.6/srfi/srfi-1.scm: 637: 17 (if (null? rest) (map1 f list1) ...) ... 624: 18 (let ((ret (list #))) (letrec ((lp #)) (lp (cdr ls) ret))) 624: 19* [list ... 624: 20* (f (car ls)) /usr/share/guile/1.6/srfi/srfi-1.scm:624:24: In expression (f (car ls)): /usr/share/guile/1.6/srfi/srfi-1.scm:624:24: Stack overflow lilypond: error: LilyPond failed on input file BachCelloPrelude (exit status 2) lilypond: warning: Running LilyPond failed. Rerun with --verbose for a trace. I hope that helps. Going for the CVS abc2ly now... Best, dp Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: >Dave Phillips writes: > > > >>Not so much success with abc2ly and musedata2ly >> >> > >What problems do you have, can you post an error log? > >abc2ly is used quite heavily, notably by Laura Conrad (see >http://laymusic.org). > >As abc2ly is a python script, you may want to look at the latest >version in CVS > > http://savannah.gnu.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs/*checkout*/lilypond/lilypond/scripts/abc2ly.py?rev=HEAD&content-type=text/x-python > >some problems were fixed recently. > >Greetings, >Jan. > > > From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 01 10:02:56 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg29Q-0003uf-9K for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 10:02:56 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg29O-0003uN-6S for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 10:02:54 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg29M-0003u3-K2 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 10:02:53 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg29M-0003u0-Go for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 10:02:52 -0400 Received: from [194.109.24.7] (helo=smtp-out6.xs4all.nl) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bg27J-0006jY-4b for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 10:00:45 -0400 Received: from peder.flower (appel.xs4all.nl [80.126.34.178]) by smtp-out6.xs4all.nl (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i61E0few093886; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 16:00:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=peder.flower ident=janneke) by peder.flower with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bg27G-0006jF-FX; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 16:00:42 +0200 To: Dave Phillips Subject: Re: Greetings and a question References: <40E2C293.3000803@s3.kth.se> <40E2D0E1.4060205@bright.net> <3or7rwwtk0.fsf@tba.elte.hu> <40E35886.2090404@bright.net> <871xjwwpc6.fsf@peder.flower> <40E41AD8.9020407@bright.net> From: Jan Nieuwenhuizen Organization: Jan at Appel Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 16:00:42 +0200 In-Reply-To: <40E41AD8.9020407@bright.net> (Dave Phillips's message of "Thu, 01 Jul 2004 10:08:24 -0400") Message-ID: <87vfh7ddyt.fsf@peder.flower> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 14:02:54 -0000 Dave Phillips writes: > I'll check out the CVS abc2ly today. Meanwhile, here's what's > happening with my current versions of things (Planet CCRMA RH9, > LilyPond 2.2.0) : Ok. > /home/dlphilp/BachCelloPrelude.ly:14:38: error: parse error, > unexpected BAR, expecting NOTENAME_PITCH or DRUM_PITCH or '>': > \time 4/4 \key d \major < \ba This is invalid lilypond syntax: you found a bug. AFAIC, abc is mainly used for simple tunes. The multiple voices/chord syntax changed and abc2ly was apparrently not updated. > I hope that helps. Going for the CVS abc2ly now... This won't help, same bug is probably in CVS. Could you please complete your bug report by posting the ABC source that triggers the bug? (attachments are not allowed on lilypond-user currently, due to limited spam filtering options). Jan. -- Jan Nieuwenhuizen | GNU LilyPond - The music typesetter http://www.xs4all.nl/~jantien | http://www.lilypond.org From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 01 11:10:30 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg3Co-0000Ku-OC for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 11:10:30 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg3Cm-0000Jz-Tg for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 11:10:29 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg3Cm-0000JH-1x for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 11:10:28 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg3Ck-0000JD-IL for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 11:10:27 -0400 Received: from [152.66.115.1] (helo=nic.bme.hu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bg3AY-00085L-VL for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 11:08:11 -0400 Received: from gep2 (gep2.iit.bme.hu [152.66.241.161]) by nic.bme.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6FF628390; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 17:08:08 +0200 (CEST) From: "Bertalan Fodor" To: "'Mats Bengtsson'" Subject: RE: What properties should I set? Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 17:08:48 +0200 Message-ID: <006b01c45f7d$505cdb70$a1f14298@inf.iit.bme.hu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 In-Reply-To: <40E2DE12.1040104@s3.kth.se> Importance: Normal Cc: 'Lilypond Users' X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 15:10:29 -0000 > There are certainly a number of properties that are useful to > set but that are unset by default. However, it's a difficult > compromise to determine which ones to list or not. Well it is not a difficult compromise if there is a well-known property like minimumVerticalExtent, but you don't have the chance at all to find out that it can be set. For example I suppose that it can be set even in ChoirStaff, but there is no link to anywhere from the ChoirStaff documentation where you can find it. I must add, that I don't want to browse the documentation for settable properties at all. It's the task for my automatic code completion working in jEdit's LilyPond plugins. And I was able to perfectly set up the code completion database for the grob properties, but not for context properties. So I think something is very bad, if contexts' properties are not self-documenting. Bert From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 01 11:23:43 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg3Pb-0005Wc-AE for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 11:23:43 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg3PZ-0005WR-PF for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 11:23:41 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg3PX-0005WA-T4 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 11:23:41 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg3PX-0005W0-Ot for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 11:23:39 -0400 Received: from [130.237.43.24] (helo=iris.s3.kth.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bg3N7-0007VR-1s for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 11:21:09 -0400 Received: from localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.md.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8039F61AE5; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 17:21:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se ([130.237.43.24]) by localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id 16215-07; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 17:21:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2717361B91; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 17:21:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [130.237.50.49] (drongo.s3.kth.se [130.237.50.49]) by iris.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0668161AE5; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 17:21:06 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <40E42BE2.30400@s3.kth.se> Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 17:21:06 +0200 From: Mats Bengtsson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Herman Grootaers Subject: Re: not-latin lyrics References: <16604.3286.359040.101600@localhost.localdomain> <87hdsy6yav.fsf@peder.flower> <20040628.191354.102628346.wl@gnu.org> <200406282021.26891.herman@grootaers-nl.com> In-Reply-To: <200406282021.26891.herman@grootaers-nl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 15:23:42 -0000 The steps described below are not relevant for the current versions of LilyPond. However, they provided enough hints that I think I have found a solution, see the following example. Note that I don't know any russian, so I just copied a text from a web page. ------------------------------------------------ \header{ inputencoding="koi8-r" fontencoding="T2A" } \score{<< \context Voice = melody \notes \relative c'{ c d e f g a b c} \lyricsto melody \new Lyrics \lyrics{ Ð”Ð»Ñ Ð¿Ð¾Ð´Ð´ÐµÑ€Ð¶ÐºÐ¸ руÑÑкого Ñзыка в teTeX нужно }>> \paper{ \context{ \LyricsContext \override LyricText #'font-name = #'"larm1000" } } } ------------------------------------------------------- As you can see, the necessary steps are to define the inputencoding and the fontencoding and to tell LilyPond the name of the font file. The steps to find out the name of the font file is just as described below (I don't understand the problems mentioned about the larm* files though). Note that you need LilyPond version 2.2.0 or newer for this solution to work. /Mats Herman Grootaers wrote: > On Monday 28 June 2004 19:13, Werner LEMBERG wrote: > >>>Hmm, I only remember having seen the ps. Do you have a search >>>string google could use? >> >>I just did a google search by myself, without results. >> >> >> Werner > > > Maybe this mail from in the lilypond-user-archive will help. I have been > struggling to get it printing in cyrillic, and on my search I found this > mail. > > reference: lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2001-11/msg00119.html > > I have however not enough knowledge to make it working, but that can come > because we are now in version 2.2/2.3 > > == > Greetings, > Herman Grootaers > > A copy form the e-mail follows below > = = = = > Re: Cyrillic > > From: > Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy > > Subject: > Re: Cyrillic > > Date: > Fri, 16 Nov 2001 01:43:22 -0500 (EST) > > > OK, I've succeded in having Cyrillic lyrics, here is how I did it. This > may not be the ultimately correct way to do it, but it worked for me. > Hopefully this will help someone facing the same problem. > > The instructions below are for FreeBSD, on other systems I'm guessing > paths will vary, but everything should be essentially the same. > > The initial problem lies (to the best of my understanding) in lilypond > making an assumption that a font "root name" as described in an FD file > matches the actual file name. TeTeX includes a cyrillic font package > called cmcyr, and, for example, a standard size 8 font in the > /usr/local/share/texmf/tex/latex/cyrillic/t2acmr.fd file is called "larm", > but there are no files on my system beginning with larm. May be I haven't > tried hard enough, but I concluded that using cmcyr fonts with lilypond is > impossible. > > So, I installed the pscyr package. > > (On FreeBSD this amounts to: > # cd /usr/ports/russian/pscyr > # make install) > > Here is what you have to do next: > > Step 1 - figure out the file name. > > A simple way to do it is to put together the following LaTeX file, > say, test.tex: > > \documentclass[10pt, letterpaper]{article} > > \usepackage[T2A]{fontenc} > \usepackage[koi8-r]{inputenc} > \usepackage[russian]{babel} > \usepackage{pscyr} > > \begin{document} > > \texttx{XXXXXXXX} > > \end{document} > > "XXXXXX" above need to be koi8-r encoded cyrillic characters. \texttx > should set the font to Textbook font. (this is all documented in a file > called fonts-ex.tex) > > Then, do: > > $ latex test.tex > $ dvitype test.dvi | grep Font > Font 16: ftxr6a---loaded at size 655360 DVI units > Font 15: faqr6a---loaded at size 655360 DVI units > >>From this you can see that the file is most likely called ftxr6a, which > can be confirmed by: > > $ locate ftxr6a > /usr/local/share/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/pscyr/ftxr6a.tfm > > Step 2 - add a link to it so that lilypond can find it > > # cd /usr/local/share/lilpond > # ln -s /usr/local/share/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/pscyr tfm.2 > > Step 3 - add it to fonts.scm > > Edit /usr/local/share/lilypond/scm/fonts.scm so that somewhere (which is > apparent by looking at the file), you have: > > ((4 medium upright roman ftxr6a 17) . "ftxr6a") > ((3 medium upright roman ftxr6a 17) . "ftxr6a") > ((2 medium upright roman ftxr6a 12) . "ftxr6a") > ((1 medium upright roman ftxr6a 12) . "ftxr6a") > ((0 medium upright roman ftxr6a 10) . "ftxr6a") > ((-1 medium upright roman ftxr6a 8) . "ftxr6a") > ((-2 medium upright roman ftxr6a 7) . "ftxr6a" ) > ((-3 medium upright roman ftxr6a 6) . "ftxr6a" ) > ((-4 medium upright roman ftxr6a 5) . "ftxr6a" ) > ((-5 medium upright roman ftxr6a 5) . "ftxr6a" ) > > Step 4 - add it to your .mulatex file, in \context Lyrics: > > \property Lyrics . LyricText \set #'font-name = #'farr6a > > Also, make sure that at the beginning of the document you have: > \usepackage[T2A]{fontenc} > \usepackage[koi8-r]{inputenc} > \usepackage[russian]{babel} > \usepackage{pscyr} > > I've skipped all of the details about lilypond-book, but all that is in > the documentation. Because you need the above lines, I don't you can do > this in an .ly file. > > Grisha > > > _______________________________________________ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- ============================================= Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: mats.bengtsson@s3.kth.se WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe ============================================= From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 01 11:57:28 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg3wG-00040w-Ma for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 11:57:28 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg3wC-0003z4-7K for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 11:57:24 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg3wA-0003wb-Gi for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 11:57:23 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg3wA-0003wR-D9 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 11:57:22 -0400 Received: from [130.237.43.24] (helo=iris.s3.kth.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bg3tj-0002vG-Bz for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 11:54:51 -0400 Received: from localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.md.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ED8861BFA; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 17:54:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se ([130.237.43.24]) by localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id 17253-03; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 17:54:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1A9361C3E; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 17:54:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [130.237.50.49] (drongo.s3.kth.se [130.237.50.49]) by iris.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8BB461BFA; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 17:54:48 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <40E433C9.8060405@s3.kth.se> Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 17:54:49 +0200 From: Mats Bengtsson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wolfgang Mechsner Subject: Re: invisible key signature (Key changes) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 15:57:24 -0000 I will add the following example to the Tips and Tricks document: -------------------------------------------------- \version "2.2.0" \header { texidoc = "@cindex Key Signature End of Line According to normal typesetting conventions, LilyPond typesets key changes at the end of the line, when the change appears at a line break. This example shows how to change this default to only print the new key signature at the beginning of the next line. " } \score { \notes \relative c' { \set Staff.explicitKeySignatureVisibility = #end-of-line-invisible c d e f | g a b c | \break \key d \major d cis b a | g fis e d | } } ---------------------------------------------------- /Mats Wolfgang Mechsner wrote: > I would like to have no keys while keys changing at the end of > line. (For short music examples) > > Thanx for any help. > > Wolfgang > > ---------------- > Wolfgang Mechsner > > www.wolfgang-mechsner.de > > > > _______________________________________________ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- ============================================= Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: mats.bengtsson@s3.kth.se WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe ============================================= From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 01 12:07:17 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg45l-0007gF-I6 for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 12:07:17 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg45j-0007fl-0C for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 12:07:15 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg45i-0007fZ-Gm for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 12:07:14 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg45i-0007fW-Eu for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 12:07:14 -0400 Received: from [24.93.47.42] (helo=ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bg43u-0000uL-Ru for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 12:05:23 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.100] (cs6669234-146.austin.rr.com [66.69.234.146]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id i61G5Jo7006216; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 11:05:20 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) In-Reply-To: <40E3CC5F.40801@s3.kth.se> References: <40E3CC5F.40801@s3.kth.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <6F79E07E-CB78-11D8-8FF2-00039348F482@foxchange.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Will Oram Subject: Re: Making a lilypond-book -- IT WORKS...sort of Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 11:05:13 -0500 To: Mats Bengtsson , lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Cc: X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 16:07:15 -0000 On Jul 1, 2004, at 3:33 AM, Mats Bengtsson wrote: > > > Will Oram wrote: >> As is typical with me, I misread the instructions for lilypond-book >> --process. After some toying around, I got it to build at last. >> There are some problems, however. One is that nothing in \header {} >> (found in header.ly) is printed in the final output. This is not a >> terrible problem; I can insert anything missing in TeX. > > See the information on titling at > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.2/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/ > Integrating-LaTeX-and-music.html#Integrating%20LaTeX%20and%20music > However, you will need version 2.2.3 since earlier 2.2.x versions had a > bug. If you don't want to upgrade, I have described a workaround in > several emails found in the mailing list archives. This is true. But perhaps I didn't stress that for such a large project, using \maketitlepage might make more sense. I will still need to embed headers, if only for Mutopia purposes. > >> A more serious problem is that I can't seem to have multiple >> \lilypondfile's in one .tex file. This is my code: >> \documentclass[a4paper]{opera} >> \begin{document} >> \title {Violin Concerto in D Major} >> \subtitle {Opus 35} >> \author {Peter Ilyitch Tchaikovsky} >> \date {\today} >> \maketitle >> \begin{center} >> {\huge{I. Allegro Moderato}} \\ >> \end{center} >> \lilypondfile{mvmt1/mvmt1.ly} >> \begin{center} >> {\huge{III. Finale}} \\ >> \end{center} >> \lilypondfile{mvmt3/mvmt3.ly} >> \end{document} >> The resulting output is the title page, mvmt1 header, mvmt1, NO >> header at all, mvmt1 AGAIN. What's up? > > I tried your example with some small files in mvmt1.ly and mvmt3.ly and > it works fine here. You can hopefully get a hint on what's up if you > run lilypond-book with the additional flag --verbose and also take a > careful look at the printouts from LaTeX. --verbose doesn't reveal much, other than it is indeed compiling the same mvmt1 twice. The last thing lilypond-book says that's on track is 'input renamed to: `mvmt3/mvmt3.ly''. After that it proceeds to reprocess mvmt1. > I recommend to remove all > lily-*.ly files first to make sure that lilypond-book reruns all the > steps. AFAIK, I have to do that every time I build this project, else I get 'All snippets are up to date', whether or not that's actually true. Will Oram // Genius @ Large // AIM spamguy21 spamguy (at) foxchange (dot) com // wro1 (at) cwru (dot) edu From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 01 16:39:34 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg8LG-0002sC-JB for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 16:39:34 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg8LF-0002ro-4K for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 16:39:33 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg8LD-0002rc-Ju for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 16:39:32 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg8LD-0002rZ-HF for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 16:39:31 -0400 Received: from [66.92.70.82] (helo=debian.laymusic.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bg8JI-0004XN-3b; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 16:37:32 -0400 Received: by debian.laymusic.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 52806B7CCD; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 16:37:31 -0400 (EDT) To: Jan Nieuwenhuizen Subject: Re: Greetings and a question X-Face: +h=WU/v, Ro}5P&TcQ=|qp9>.kdKUH!`7s(WC)X/15|Nd{D!]zW(^%[Sp(}0v"O|b=C9z}*4 @)x_C2fgA~Wi&@/V"f6vs*B.1`(};T=]?M6O;HvGS References: <40E2C293.3000803@s3.kth.se> <40E2D0E1.4060205@bright.net> <3or7rwwtk0.fsf@tba.elte.hu> <40E35886.2090404@bright.net> <871xjwwpc6.fsf@peder.flower> <40E41AD8.9020407@bright.net> <87vfh7ddyt.fsf@peder.flower> From: Laura Conrad Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 16:37:31 -0400 Message-ID: <876597sbuc.fsf@tuba.localdomain> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 20:39:33 -0000 >>>>> "Jan" == Jan Nieuwenhuizen writes: >> /home/dlphilp/BachCelloPrelude.ly:14:38: error: parse error, >> unexpected BAR, expecting NOTENAME_PITCH or DRUM_PITCH or '>': >> \time 4/4 \key d \major < \ba Jan> This is invalid lilypond syntax: you found a bug. I've hit that one (in 2.0); I was planning to report it after I had a chance to check it on a more recent version. Basically, any chord (ABC syntax "[A C]", for instance, is translated with single angle brackets, instead of double ones. The workaround is to change the "< a' c >" that comes in the lilypond output to read "<< a' c >>". This is a pain for the way I work, where I do the editing in ABC and look at the abc2ly/lilypond output. Jan> AFAIC, abc is mainly used for simple tunes. The multiple Jan> voices/chord syntax changed and abc2ly was apparrently not Jan> updated. My tunes aren't so simple, but I don't use chords very often, since I enter the voices separately. The particular case where I hit this problem this week had a bass voice that split for one note. Dave probably has a similar case, with a mostly monophonic cello part with a few double stops. -- Laura (mailto:lconrad@laymusic.org , http://www.laymusic.org/ ) (617) 661-8097 fax: (501) 641-5011 233 Broadway, Cambridge, MA 02139 From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 01 18:19:39 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg9u7-0004Ee-62 for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 18:19:39 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg9u3-0004Cm-La for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 18:19:36 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg9u0-0004Bn-AA for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 18:19:34 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg9u0-0004Bf-6l for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 18:19:32 -0400 Received: from [194.109.24.6] (helo=smtp-out5.xs4all.nl) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bg9s8-0002n4-24 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 18:17:36 -0400 Received: from peder.flower (appel.xs4all.nl [80.126.34.178]) by smtp-out5.xs4all.nl (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i61MHZUY000982; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 00:17:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=peder.flower ident=janneke) by peder.flower with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bg9s7-0000xG-VO; Fri, 02 Jul 2004 00:17:36 +0200 To: Laura Conrad Subject: Re: Greetings and a question References: <40E2C293.3000803@s3.kth.se> <40E2D0E1.4060205@bright.net> <3or7rwwtk0.fsf@tba.elte.hu> <40E35886.2090404@bright.net> <871xjwwpc6.fsf@peder.flower> <40E41AD8.9020407@bright.net> <87vfh7ddyt.fsf@peder.flower> <876597sbuc.fsf@tuba.localdomain> From: Jan Nieuwenhuizen Organization: Jan at Appel Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 00:17:35 +0200 In-Reply-To: <876597sbuc.fsf@tuba.localdomain> (Laura Conrad's message of "Thu, 01 Jul 2004 16:37:31 -0400") Message-ID: <871xjvcqyo.fsf@peder.flower> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 22:19:36 -0000 Laura Conrad writes: > I've hit that one (in 2.0); I was planning to report it after I had > a chance to check it on a more recent version. Ok. Next time, feel free to just report such a thing, as long as you mention the version. > The workaround is to change the "< a' c >" that comes in the lilypond > output to read "<< a' c >>". I guessed that much, but wanted to test it before making changes. It's a simple patch, see below, but I haven't been able to test it. Fixed in CVS. > My tunes aren't so simple, but I don't use chords very often That was what I meant of course, no offence intended! Greetings, Jan. Index: abc2ly.py =================================================================== RCS file: /cvsroot/lilypond/lilypond/scripts/abc2ly.py,v retrieving revision 1.40 retrieving revision 1.41 diff -p -u -p -u -r1.40 -r1.41 --- abc2ly.py 19 Apr 2004 23:18:39 -0000 1.40 +++ abc2ly.py 1 Jul 2004 21:36:08 -0000 1.41 @@ -1190,18 +1190,18 @@ def try_parse_chord_delims (str, state): if state.next_bar: voices_append(state.next_bar) state.next_bar = '' - voices_append ('<') + voices_append ('<<') if str[:1] == '+': str = str[1:] if state.plus_chord: - voices_append ('>') + voices_append ('>>') state.plus_chord = 0 else: if state.next_bar: voices_append(state.next_bar) state.next_bar = '' - voices_append ('<') + voices_append ('<<') state.plus_chord = 1 ch = '' -- Jan Nieuwenhuizen | GNU LilyPond - The music typesetter http://www.xs4all.nl/~jantien | http://www.lilypond.org From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 01 18:56:05 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BgATM-0003Oz-U7 for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 18:56:05 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BgATL-0003Ne-BT for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 18:56:03 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BgATJ-0003NS-Pa for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 18:56:03 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BgATJ-0003NP-Nn for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 18:56:01 -0400 Received: from [209.143.0.74] (helo=hagus.bright.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BgARD-0007bu-KH for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 18:53:51 -0400 Received: from bright.net (cpe-69-135-234-192.woh.rr.com [69.135.234.192]) by hagus.bright.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i61Mro5M021803 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 18:53:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <40E4A087.8070803@bright.net> Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 19:38:47 -0400 From: Dave Phillips User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4.2) Gecko/20040308 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LilyPond Mail Subject: On using midi2ly Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 22:56:03 -0000 Greetings: Some suggestions for the docs on midi2ly: 1) The utility will work as advertised *if* you use Type 1 MIDI files. Type 0 files put all data into a single track, so unless you're rendering monophonic music you probably want to be using Type 1 files. 2) Multiple tracks in a sequence should be given the same MIDI channel. If you use separate channels per track midi2ly will create an LY file that will render only the first track. 3) Quantizing start-times and durations should be recommended. This relates to the notes regarding the transcription of a MIDI recording of a performance. I realize it can be done via the utility, but a sequencer gives better visual feedback. 4) Overlapping notes in an arpeggio will not be correctly rendered. The first note will be read and the others will be ignored. Set them all to a single duration and add phrase markings or pedal indicators. Forgive me if these issues are already well-known. Comments and suggestions are welcome. Best regards, dp From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jul 02 00:44:35 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BgFud-0002vG-14 for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2004 00:44:35 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BgFub-0002v3-1D for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2004 00:44:33 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BgFuZ-0002ur-LJ for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2004 00:44:32 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BgFuZ-0002uo-Hp for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2004 00:44:31 -0400 Received: from [203.62.196.17] (helo=alcanet.com.au) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BgFsg-0005BX-Lc for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2004 00:42:35 -0400 Received: from smtp-in.alcanet.com.au (IDENT:root@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by alcanet.com.au (8.12.9/8.12.9/Alcanet1.3) with ESMTP id i624aX62022292 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 14:42:29 +1000 Received: (from root@localhost) by mailgate.alcanet.com.au (8.12.9/8.12.4/Alcanet-8.12) id i61Ie13g027485; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 04:40:01 +1000 Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 04:40:01 +1000 Message-Id: <200407011840.i61Ie13g027485@mailgate.alcanet.com.au> From: support@alcanet.com.au Subject: ALCATEL POLICY : your message has been refused To: X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 04:44:33 -0000 ******************** e-mail Manager Notification ********************** As a security precaution this mail was blocked and discarded since it contains attachments with file extensions not allowed by our email policy (.exe, .vbs etc ...) 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If you have questions, contact your local email support representative. ********************** End of message *************************** From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jul 02 05:14:07 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BgK7T-0006TI-E5 for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2004 05:14:07 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BgK7S-0006TD-ED for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2004 05:14:06 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BgK7R-0006Sq-0y for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2004 05:14:06 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BgK7Q-0006Sg-Qi for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2004 05:14:04 -0400 Received: from [130.237.43.24] (helo=iris.s3.kth.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BgK5R-0007SV-JX for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2004 05:12:02 -0400 Received: from localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.md.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08B5E61ACE; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 11:12:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se ([130.237.43.24]) by localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id 18844-10; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 11:11:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1151A61AF2; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 11:11:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [130.237.50.49] (drongo.s3.kth.se [130.237.50.49]) by iris.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 944E361ACE; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 11:11:57 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <40E526DE.8090401@s3.kth.se> Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 11:11:58 +0200 From: Mats Bengtsson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Herman Grootaers Subject: Re: not-latin lyrics References: <16604.3286.359040.101600@localhost.localdomain> <200406282021.26891.herman@grootaers-nl.com> <40E42BE2.30400@s3.kth.se> <200407012359.39026.herman@grootaers-nl.com> In-Reply-To: <200407012359.39026.herman@grootaers-nl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 09:14:06 -0000 I should have been more clear. My suggestion will work in version 2.2.x, but not necessarily in 2.3.x, since one of the major changes in the 2.3.x series is the handling of font encodings. I just tried the latest CVS version of the 2.3.x series but it gives an ugly crash (probably because of some ongoing hacking), so I cannot test it there. I definitely recommend the latest stable version 2.2.3 for any serious typesetting job, the development versions 2.3.x should be considered experimental. /Mats Herman Grootaers wrote: > On Thursday 01 July 2004 17:21, you wrote: > >>The steps described below are not relevant for the current versions >>of LilyPond. However, they provided enough hints that I think I have >>found a solution, see the following example. Note that I don't know >>any russian, so I just copied a text from a web page. >> >>------------------------------------------------ >>\header{ >> inputencoding="koi8-r" >> fontencoding="T2A" >>} >> >>\score{<< >> \context Voice = melody \notes \relative c'{ >> c d e f g a b c} >> \lyricsto melody \new Lyrics \lyrics{ >> Ð”Ð»Ñ Ð¿Ð¾Ð´Ð´ÐµÑ€Ð¶ÐºÐ¸ руÑÑкого Ñзыка в teTeX нужно >> }>> >>\paper{ >> \context{ >> \LyricsContext >> \override LyricText #'font-name = #'"larm1000" >> } >>} >>} >> >>------------------------------------------------------- >> >>As you can see, the necessary steps are to define the >>inputencoding and the fontencoding and to tell LilyPond >>the name of the font file. The steps to find out the name of >>the font file is just as described below (I don't understand >>the problems mentioned about the larm* files though). >> >>Note that you need LilyPond version 2.2.0 or newer for >>this solution to work. >> > > > Thanks, I got it now so far that I can compile the file correctly, though > there are some problems in getting the script on the paper. > > I do send the source and the log of the verbose translation with it. > > Maybe you can give me a final hint where to look for, because there are a few > projects waiting to be resolved on this. > > == > Greetings, > Herman Grootaers > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > lilypond (GNU LilyPond) 2.3.5 > Openen van pijp `/usr/local/bin/lilypond-bin --version '... > Openen van pijp `kpsexpand \$TEXMF'... > Openen van pijp `kpsewhich -expand-path=\$T1FONTS'... > Inroepen van `/usr/local/bin/lilypond-bin -I /home/herman/Documents/Lilypond -I /home/herman/Documents/Lilypond -I /home/herman/Documents/Lilypond --header=orientation --header=language --header=latexpackages --header=papersize --header=latexheaders --header=latexoptions --header=linewidth --header=unit --verbose testmulti' > lilypond_datadir: `/usr/local/share/lilypond' > local_lilypond_datadir: `/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5' > localedir: `/usr/local/share/locale' > LILYPONDPREFIX: `' > > > Nu wordt verwerkt `testmulti.ly' > Ontleden... > [/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/ly/init.ly[/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/ly/declarations-init.ly[/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/ly/music-functions-init.ly][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/ly/nederlands.ly][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/ly/drumpitch-init.ly][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/ly/chord-modifiers-init.ly][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/ly/script-init.ly][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/ly/scale-definitions-init.ly][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/ly/grace-init.ly][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/ly/midi-init.ly[/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/ly/performer-init.ly]][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/ly/book-paper-defaults.ly][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/ly/engraver-init.ly][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/ly/dynamic-scripts-init.ly][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/ly/spanners-init.ly][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/ly/property-init.ly]][/home/herman/Documents/Lilypond/testmulti.ly > invoer hernoemd naar: `Ektenia101.ly' > Vertolken van muziek...[/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/fonts/afm/feta20.afm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/fonts/tfm/feta20.tfm[/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/ps/feta20.enc]][6]duur: 0.44 seconden > Aantal elementen 635 (spanners 18)Voorbewerken van grafische objecten... Aantal grobs 821[/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/fonts/afm/feta11.afm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/fonts/tfm/feta11.tfm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/fonts/afm/parmesan11.afm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/fonts/tfm/parmesan11.tfm[/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/ps/parmesan20.enc]][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/fonts/afm/feta13.afm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/fonts/tfm/feta13.tfm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/fonts/afm/parmesan13.afm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/fonts/tfm/parmesan13.tfm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/fonts/afm/feta14.afm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/fonts/tfm/feta14.tfm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/fonts/afm/parmesan14.afm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/fonts/tfm/parmesan14.tfm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/fonts/afm/feta16.afm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/fonts/tfm/feta16.tfm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/fonts/afm/parmesan16.afm][/usr/loca l/share/lilypond/2.3.5/fonts/tfm/parmesan16.tfm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/fonts/afm/feta18.afm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/fonts/tfm/feta18.tfm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/fonts/afm/parmesan18.afm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/fonts/tfm/parmesan18.tfm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/fonts/afm/parmesan20.afm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/fonts/tfm/parmesan20.tfm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/fonts/afm/feta23.afm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/fonts/tfm/feta23.tfm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/fonts/afm/parmesan23.afm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/fonts/tfm/parmesan23.tfm][/usr/share/texmf/dvips/base/cork.enc] > Berekenen van regelafbreuken... Globaal kortste lengte is 1/8 > waarschuwing: kpathsea kan TMF bestand niet vinden: `ecrb10' > waarschuwing: kan font niet vinden: `ecrb10' > waarschuwing: Laden van standaardfont > [/usr/share/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/cm/cmr10.tfm[/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/ps/cmr.enc]][3] > Optimale foutscore: 0.788425 > Aantal elementen: 293.[0]papier uitvoer naar testmulti.tex... > ]][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/scm/define-music-types.scm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/scm/output-lib.scm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/scm/c++.scm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/scm/chord-ignatzek-names.scm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/scm/chord-entry.scm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/scm/chord-generic-names.scm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/scm/stencil.scm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/scm/new-markup.scm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/scm/bass-figure.scm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/scm/music-functions.scm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/scm/part-combiner.scm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/scm/define-music-properties.scm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/scm/auto-beam.scm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/scm/chord-name.scm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/scm/ly-from-scheme.scm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/scm/define-context-properties.scm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/scm/translation-functions.scm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/ scm/script.scm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/scm/midi.scm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/scm/beam.scm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/scm/clef.scm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/scm/slur.scm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/scm/font.scm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/scm/encoding.scm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/scm/fret-diagrams.scm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/scm/define-markup-commands.scm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/scm/define-grob-properties.scm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/scm/define-grobs.scm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/scm/define-grob-interfaces.scm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/scm/page-layout.scm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/scm/titling.scm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/scm/paper.scm][/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/scm/safe-lily.scm]((gc-time-taken . 225) (cells-allocated . 255970) (cell-heap-size . 892928) (bytes-malloced . 1191435) (gc-malloc-threshold . 2139126) (gc-times . 32) (gc-mark-time-taken . 117) (gc-sweep-time-t aken . 108) (cells-marked . 3867942) (cells-swept . 8316480) (cell-heap-segments (137062400 . 137013248) (137089024 . 137072640) (137207808 . 137142272) (137322496 . 137224192) (1078515712 . 1078368256) (1078683648 . 1078519808) (1078900736 . 1078687744) (1079232512 . 1078904832) (1079728128 . 1079236608) (1080551424 . 1079814144) (1081997312 . 1080555520) (1083525120 . 1082001408) (1085442048 . 1083574272))) > Analyseren van testmulti.tex... > Inroepen van `(( latex \\nonstopmode \\input testmulti.latex >&2 ) >&- )'This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.4.5) > LaTeX2e <2001/06/01> > Babel and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german, ngerman, b > asque, italian, portuges, russian, spanish, nohyphenation, loaded. > > (./testmulti.latex (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/article.cls > Document Class: article 2001/04/21 v1.4e Standard LaTeX document class > (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/size10.clo)) > (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/inputenc.sty) > No file testmulti.aux. > (./testmulti.tex (/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/tex/lilyponddefs.tex > (/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/tex/feta20.tex) > (/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5/tex/lily-ps-defs.tex))) [1] (./testmulti.aux) > ) > (see the transcript file for additional information) > Output written on testmulti.dvi (1 page, 19292 bytes). > Transcript written on testmulti.log. > > Openen van pijp `kpsewhich feta20.pfa'... > Inroepen van `dvips -ta4 -Ppdf -G0 -u +ec-mftrace.map -u +lilypond.map -otestmulti.ps testmulti.dvi'This is dvips(k) 5.92b Copyright 2002 Radical Eye Software (www.radicaleye.com) > ' TeX output 2004.07.01:2356' -> testmulti.ps > > . [1] > > Inroepen van `ps2pdf testmulti.ps testmulti.pdf' > DVI uitvoer naar `testmulti.dvi'... > lilypond: waarschuwing: kan bestand niet vinden: `testmulti.midi' > PDF uitvoer naar `testmulti.pdf'... > PS uitvoer naar `testmulti.ps'... > Schoonmaken van /home/herman/tmp/tmprTLHNRlilypond... > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > %% Generated by lilypond-book > %% Options: [printfilename,texidoc,linewidth] > #(define toplevel-score-handler ly:parser-print-score) > \paper { linewidth = 160 \mm > } > \renameinput "Ektenia101.ly" > \version "2.3.5" > \header { texidoc = "Mayor or Peace-litany" > %% Choral response to the prayers by the Diacon or Priest > %% First litany in the orthodox services > %% Named after it's size and after the first prayer > inputencoding="Unicode" > fontencoding="T2A" > } > sopMusic = \relative c'' > { \cadenzaOn > \stemUp > \autoBeamOff > a4 a2^\fermata \bar "||" > a8 a a a a2 a^\fermata \bar "|:" > a8 a a a g2 a^\fermata \bar ":|" > a4 a2 bes bes a^\fermata \bar "||" > a4 a2^\fermata \bar "|." > } > sopWords = \lyrics > { > } > altoMusic = \relative c' > { \cadenzaOn > \stemDown > \autoBeamOff > c4 c2_\fermata \bar "||" > c8 c c c c2 c_\fermata \bar "|:" > c8 c c c c2 c_\fermata \bar ":|" > c4 c2 d c c_\fermata \bar "||" > c4 c2_\fermata \bar "|." > } > altoWords =\lyrics > { Ð-4 мин.2 > ГоÑ-8 по- ди- по- ми-2 луй. > ГоÑ-8 по- ди- по- ми-2 луй. > Те-4 бе,2 ГоÑ- по- ди. > Ð-4 мин.2 > } > tenorMusic = \relative c' > { \cadenzaOn > \stemUp > \autoBeamOff > c4 c2^\fermata \bar "||" > c8 c c c c2 c^\fermata \bar "|:" > c8 c c c c2 c^\fermata \bar ":|" > c4 c2 d c c^\fermata \bar "||" > c4 c2^\fermata \bar "|." > } > tenorWords = \lyrics > { > } > bassMusic = \relative c > { \cadenzaOn > \stemDown > \autoBeamOff > f4 f2_\fermata \bar "||" > f8 f f f f2 f_\fermata \bar "|:" > f8 f f f c2 f_\fermata \bar ":|" > f4 f2 bes, c f_\fermata \bar "||" > f4 f2_\fermata \bar "|." > } > bassWords = \lyrics > { > } > \score { << \context StaffGroup << \context Lyrics = sopranos { s1 } > \context Staff = women << \context Voice = sopranos { \voiceOne \sopMusic } > \context Voice = altos { \voiceTwo \altoMusic } > >> > \context Lyrics = altos { s1 } > \context Lyrics = tenors { s1 } > \context Staff = men << \clef bass > \context Voice = tenors { \voiceOne \tenorMusic } > \context Voice = basses { \voiceTwo \bassMusic } > >> > \context Lyrics = basses { s1 } > \context Lyrics = sopranos \lyricsto sopranos \sopWords > \context Lyrics = altos \lyricsto altos \altoWords > \context Lyrics = tenors \lyricsto tenors \tenorWords > \context Lyrics = basses \lyricsto basses \bassWords > >> > >> > } > \paper { \context { % a little smaller so lyrics can be closer to the staff. > \Staff minimumVerticalExtent = #'(-3 . 3) > \override LyricText #'fontname = #'"verdana" > } > } -- ============================================= Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: mats.bengtsson@s3.kth.se WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe ============================================= From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jul 02 05:25:08 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BgKI7-0002IC-Ok for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2004 05:25:07 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BgKI5-0002Hf-Kz for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2004 05:25:05 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BgKI4-0002Gq-GW for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2004 05:25:05 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BgKI4-0002Ge-Bq for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2004 05:25:04 -0400 Received: from [130.237.43.24] (helo=iris.s3.kth.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BgKGD-00050p-09 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2004 05:23:09 -0400 Received: from localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.md.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFFA861B5F; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 11:23:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se ([130.237.43.24]) by localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id 19327-08; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 11:23:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60D8C61BCA; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 11:23:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [130.237.50.49] (drongo.s3.kth.se [130.237.50.49]) by iris.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4098761B5F; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 11:23:06 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <40E5297A.4040300@s3.kth.se> Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 11:23:06 +0200 From: Mats Bengtsson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Will Oram Subject: Re: Making a lilypond-book -- IT WORKS...sort of References: <40E3CC5F.40801@s3.kth.se> <6F79E07E-CB78-11D8-8FF2-00039348F482@foxchange.com> In-Reply-To: <6F79E07E-CB78-11D8-8FF2-00039348F482@foxchange.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 09:25:06 -0000 I don't understand what's going on here. Could you please send the full example (in a private email if you wish) or send the following: - The generated .tex file that you process with latex. - The output of 'grep renameinput lily-*.ly' (to be run in the output directory of lilypond-book. /Mats Will Oram wrote: >>> A more serious problem is that I can't seem to have multiple >>> \lilypondfile's in one .tex file. This is my code: >>> \documentclass[a4paper]{opera} >>> \begin{document} >>> \title {Violin Concerto in D Major} >>> \subtitle {Opus 35} >>> \author {Peter Ilyitch Tchaikovsky} >>> \date {\today} >>> \maketitle >>> \begin{center} >>> {\huge{I. Allegro Moderato}} \\ >>> \end{center} >>> \lilypondfile{mvmt1/mvmt1.ly} >>> \begin{center} >>> {\huge{III. Finale}} \\ >>> \end{center} >>> \lilypondfile{mvmt3/mvmt3.ly} >>> \end{document} >>> The resulting output is the title page, mvmt1 header, mvmt1, NO >>> header at all, mvmt1 AGAIN. What's up? >> >> >> I tried your example with some small files in mvmt1.ly and mvmt3.ly and >> it works fine here. You can hopefully get a hint on what's up if you >> run lilypond-book with the additional flag --verbose and also take a >> careful look at the printouts from LaTeX. > > > --verbose doesn't reveal much, other than it is indeed compiling the > same mvmt1 twice. The last thing lilypond-book says that's on track is > 'input renamed to: `mvmt3/mvmt3.ly''. After that it proceeds to > reprocess mvmt1. > >> I recommend to remove all >> lily-*.ly files first to make sure that lilypond-book reruns all the >> steps. > > > AFAIK, I have to do that every time I build this project, else I get > 'All snippets are up to date', whether or not that's actually true. > > Will Oram // Genius @ Large // AIM spamguy21 > spamguy (at) foxchange (dot) com // wro1 (at) cwru (dot) edu > -- ============================================= Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: mats.bengtsson@s3.kth.se WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe ============================================= From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jul 02 14:43:48 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BgT0m-0002md-P4 for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2004 14:43:48 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BgT0l-0002mM-Ah for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2004 14:43:47 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BgT0k-0002ld-8J for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2004 14:43:47 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BgT0k-0002lO-4X for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2004 14:43:46 -0400 Received: from [212.227.126.173] (helo=moutng.kundenserver.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BgSyg-0007yl-3e for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2004 14:41:38 -0400 Received: from [212.227.126.208] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1BgSyf-0007NW-00 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2004 20:41:37 +0200 Received: from [80.129.228.206] (helo=[192.168.0.2]) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1BgSye-0007Tb-00 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2004 20:41:36 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) To: lilyond-user's list Message-Id: <7138234A-CC57-11D8-83A7-000A95CCFD0E@seanreed.de> From: Sean Reed Subject: grace note midi output Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 20:41:33 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:d0f574b167751530c2478f4392e2ade6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.4 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 18:43:47 -0000 hi, another midi question. i've checked the list archives but found no info on the following: the midi output of my grace note groups is not accurate, although the paper output is. within the midi, a segment of the duration of grace note groups is being added into the playback actual time, resulting in an offset of the voice within the midi file. ie: a 4-tone grace note gesture within one voice of a score will result in that voice being off by a 16th or more in the midi playback. is this a known issue? any hints? thanks. best, sean ------------------------------------------ Sean Reed Web: www.seanreed.de --------------- i'm using mac os 10.3.4 and lilypond 2.2.3 here are examples: this creates the correct paper and midi output: notes1 = \notes { \relative c'' { \time 4/4 \clef violin \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"violin" c8 \grace b16 d8 e4 f8 g8 a4 | \grace b16 c,8 d8 e4 f g8 \grace b16 a8 | r1 | c,4 d e f | } } notes2 = \notes { \relative c { \clef bass \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic grand" c4 c c c c c c c r1 c4 c c c } } \score { << \time 4/4 \new Staff << \notes1 >> \new Staff << \notes2 >> >> \midi { \tempo 4 = 60 } \paper {} } this does not: notes1 = \notes { \relative c'' { \time 4/4 \clef violin \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"violin" c4 \grace {b16[ c]} d32 e d16 e4 f8 g8 a8 | \grace b16 c,8 d4 e4 f8 g8 \grace b16 a8 | r1 | c,4 d4 e4 f4 | } } notes2 = \notes { \relative c { \clef bass \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic grand" c4 c c c c c c c r1 c4 c c c } } \score { << \time 4/4 \new Staff << \notes1 >> \new Staff << \notes2 >> >> \midi { \tempo 4 = 60 } \paper {} } reducing the grace note duration value to 32nds remedies the problem in the last example (ie, line 6 becomes: c4 \grace {b32[ c]} d32 e d16 e4 f8 g8 a8 |) but no change of the grace note duration values provides a remedy in this example: notes1 = \notes { \relative c'' { \time 4/4 \clef violin \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"violin" c,4 d8 e8 \grace {b64[ c d e]} f8 g8 a8 b8 | c,8 d8 e8 f8 \grace b16 g8 a8 b4 | r1 | c,4 d4 e4 \grace b16 f'8 g8 | } } notes2 = \notes { \relative c { \clef bass \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic grand" c4 c c c c c c c r1 c4 c c c } } \score { << \time 4/4 \new Staff << \notes1 >> \new Staff << \notes2 >> >> \midi { \tempo 4 = 60 } \paper {} } From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jul 02 18:24:49 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BgWSf-0003Ei-Eb for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2004 18:24:49 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BgWSd-0003Dy-MJ for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2004 18:24:47 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BgWSD-00038W-Kn for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2004 18:24:47 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BgWSD-00038T-Hq for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2004 18:24:21 -0400 Received: from [212.23.3.140] (helo=pythagoras.zen.co.uk) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BgWQ9-0004wf-GS for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2004 18:22:13 -0400 Received: from [82.69.23.82] (helo=horus.local) by pythagoras.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BgWQ7-0005si-UF; Fri, 02 Jul 2004 22:22:12 +0000 From: Tim Sawyer To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Coda Wheel and Sign not printing Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 23:23:11 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <200406261330.19724.lists@calidris.co.uk> <200406271239.39292.lists@calidris.co.uk> <40E3D842.9040006@s3.kth.se> In-Reply-To: <40E3D842.9040006@s3.kth.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200407022323.11591.tsawyer@calidris.co.uk> X-Originating-Pythagoras-IP: [82.69.23.82] Cc: Mats Bengtsson X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 22:24:48 -0000 On Thursday 01 Jul 2004 10:24, Mats Bengtsson wrote: > You could try to run convert-ly on your LaTeX file with the included > lilypond code, but make sure to check afterwards that it didn't destroy > any of rest of the document. As an alternative, just copy the relevant > lines of LilyPond code into a separate .ly file, and run convert-ly on > that to see what is changed. Thanks for that, but it didn't improve things. I ran convert-ly on this snippet (I copied and pasted this into a separate test.ly file) \version "1.8.2" \score { \notes { \time 6/8 \property Staff.TimeSignature \set #'style = #'() \clef bass \stemUp e4. e8 e8 e8 e4 e8 e4 e8 e8 e8 e8 e8 e8 e8 e4. r4. \mark #'(music "scripts-segno") \bar "||" e8 e8 e8 e8 e8 e8 e4. e4. e8 e8 e8 e8 e8 e8 e4. r4. \mark #'(music "scripts-coda") \bar "||" e8^"To Coda" e8 e8 e4 e8 e8 e8 e8 e4 e8 e4 e8 e8 e8 e8 e4. r4.^"D.S. al Coda" \bar "|." } } Here's the output of convert-ly test.ly tjs@horus:~> convert-ly test.ly convert-ly (GNU LilyPond) 2.0.3 Processing `test.ly' ... Applying conversions: 1.9.0, 1.9.1, 1.9.2, 1.9.3, 1.9.4, 1.9.5, 1.9.6, 1.9.7, 1.9.8, \version "1.9.8" \score { \notes { \time 6/8 \property Staff.TimeSignature \set #'style = #'() \clef bass \stemUp e4. e8 e8 e8 e4 e8 e4 e8 e8 e8 e8 e8 e8 e8 e4. r4. \mark #'(music "scripts-segno") \bar "||" e8 e8 e8 e8 e8 e8 e4. e4. e8 e8 e8 e8 e8 e8 e4. r4. \mark #'(music "scripts-coda") \bar "||" e8^"To Coda" e8 e8 e4 e8 e8 e8 e8 e4 e8 e4 e8 e8 e8 e8 e4. r4.^"D.S. al Coda" \bar "|." } } If I redirect this output to a file, and then run lilypond on that file, I still get the 1's and 2's in the output not my coda wheel and segno signs. I guess I've got font issues somewhere but don't know where to start looking. Any advice would be appreciated. Cheers, Tim. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jul 02 22:32:00 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BgaJs-0000fk-23 for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2004 22:32:00 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BgaJp-0000er-Rm for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2004 22:31:57 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BgaJm-0000dT-PC for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2004 22:31:56 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BgaJm-0000dC-Cn for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2004 22:31:54 -0400 Received: from [210.50.76.196] (helo=smtp02.syd.iprimus.net.au) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BgaHb-0008MP-0X for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2004 22:29:39 -0400 Received: from primus.com.au (210.50.44.189) by smtp02.syd.iprimus.net.au (7.0.028) id 40DA21E6002E5FF3 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 3 Jul 2004 12:29:20 +1000 Received: from bmcintyre by primus.com.au with local (Exim 4.34) id 1BgaHF-0007n8-KC for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jul 2004 12:29:17 +1000 Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 12:29:17 +1000 To: lilyond-user's list Subject: Re: grace note midi output Message-ID: <20040703022917.GA29050@primus.com.au> Mail-Followup-To: lilyond-user's list References: <7138234A-CC57-11D8-83A7-000A95CCFD0E@seanreed.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7138234A-CC57-11D8-83A7-000A95CCFD0E@seanreed.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040523i From: Bruce McIntyre X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2004 02:31:58 -0000 Hi, Try putting spacer grace notes in the other parts at the same point. See http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2003-03/msg00238.html I think it was first reported in 2002. See http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2002-05/msg00102.html Cheers, Bruce. On Fri, Jul 02, 2004 at 08:41:33PM +0200, Sean Reed wrote: > hi, > another midi question. i've checked the list archives but found no info > on the following: > > the midi output of my grace note groups is not accurate, although the > paper output is. within the midi, a segment of the duration of grace > note groups is being added into the playback actual time, resulting in > an offset of the voice within the midi file. ie: a 4-tone grace note > gesture within one voice of a score will result in that voice being off > by a 16th or more in the midi playback. > > is this a known issue? any hints? thanks. > best, > sean > ------------------------------------------ > Sean Reed > Web: www.seanreed.de > --------------- > i'm using mac os 10.3.4 and lilypond 2.2.3 > here are examples: > this creates the correct paper and midi output: > > notes1 = \notes { > \relative c'' { > \time 4/4 > \clef violin > \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"violin" > c8 \grace b16 d8 e4 f8 g8 a4 | > \grace b16 c,8 d8 e4 f g8 \grace b16 a8 | > r1 | > c,4 d e f | > } > } > > notes2 = \notes { > \relative c { > \clef bass > \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic grand" > c4 c c c > c c c c > r1 > c4 c c c > } > } > > \score { > << > \time 4/4 > \new Staff << > \notes1 >> > \new Staff << > \notes2 >> > >> > \midi { \tempo 4 = 60 } > \paper {} > } > > this does not: > > notes1 = \notes { > \relative c'' { > \time 4/4 > \clef violin > \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"violin" > c4 \grace {b16[ c]} d32 e d16 e4 f8 g8 a8 | > \grace b16 c,8 d4 e4 f8 g8 \grace b16 a8 | > r1 | > c,4 d4 e4 f4 | > } > } > > notes2 = \notes { > \relative c { > \clef bass > \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic grand" > c4 c c c > c c c c > r1 > c4 c c c > } > } > > \score { > << > \time 4/4 > \new Staff << > \notes1 >> > \new Staff << > \notes2 >> > >> > \midi { \tempo 4 = 60 } > \paper {} > } > > reducing the grace note duration value to 32nds remedies the problem in > the last example > (ie, line 6 becomes: c4 \grace {b32[ c]} d32 e d16 e4 f8 g8 a8 |) > > but no change of the grace note duration values provides a remedy in > this example: > notes1 = \notes { > \relative c'' { > \time 4/4 > \clef violin > \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"violin" > c,4 d8 e8 \grace {b64[ c d e]} f8 g8 a8 b8 | > c,8 d8 e8 f8 \grace b16 g8 a8 b4 | > r1 | > c,4 d4 e4 \grace b16 f'8 g8 | > } > } > > notes2 = \notes { > \relative c { > \clef bass > \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic grand" > c4 c c c > c c c c > r1 > c4 c c c > } > } > > \score { > << > \time 4/4 > \new Staff << > \notes1 >> > \new Staff << > \notes2 >> > >> > \midi { \tempo 4 = 60 } > \paper {} > } > _______________________________________________ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jul 02 22:42:15 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BgaTn-00052d-0c for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; 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Sat, 3 Jul 2004 04:39:02 +0200 (MSZ) From: Erik Sandberg Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: grace note midi output Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 04:39:00 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <7138234A-CC57-11D8-83A7-000A95CCFD0E@seanreed.de> In-Reply-To: <7138234A-CC57-11D8-83A7-000A95CCFD0E@seanreed.de> X-Answer: 42 X-All-Your-Base: Are Belong To Us X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200407030439.01901.ersa9195@student.uu.se> Cc: Sean Reed X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: erik.sandberg.9195@student.uu.se List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2004 02:42:13 -0000 On Friday 02 July 2004 20.41, Sean Reed wrote: > hi, > another midi question. i've checked the list archives but found no info > on the following: > > the midi output of my grace note groups is not accurate, although the > paper output is. within the midi, a segment of the duration of grace > note groups is being added into the playback actual time, resulting in > an offset of the voice within the midi file. ie: a 4-tone grace note > gesture within one voice of a score will result in that voice being off > by a 16th or more in the midi playback. > > is this a known issue? any hints? thanks. It is a known issue. It has not been fixed, but I could send you a mail when it has. Erik From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jul 03 05:22:25 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bggj2-0005mk-Vd for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jul 2004 05:22:25 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bggj1-0005kC-77 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jul 2004 05:22:23 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bggiz-0005hU-DF for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jul 2004 05:22:22 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bggiz-0005hN-Aw for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jul 2004 05:22:21 -0400 Received: from [195.64.90.10] (helo=duckman.blub.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bgggp-00026v-Rq for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jul 2004 05:20:08 -0400 Received: by duckman.blub.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0FDB94DB6E; Sat, 3 Jul 2004 11:20:05 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 11:20:05 +0200 From: Wouter Hanegraaff To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: combining guitar tabs and normal bars Message-ID: <20040703092005.GA30371@duckman.blub.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Message-Flag: Let op! Verwijder mijn e-mail adres uit uw adresboek als u OutLook gebruikt. Outlook==onveilig! X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2004 09:22:23 -0000 Hi, I'm a newbe, and I want to use lilypond for creating guitar sheet music, with both normal bars and guitar tab combined. Things seem to work ok for mini files, but as soon as I trie to write something larger, I keep running into problems, such as: I define a chord \foo and a chord \baz, and when I make a sequence \foo \baz \foo \baz, the first occurrence of \foo is an octave lower than the second one, and this is also true of \baz. This happens with the lilypond file below this message. Could anyone tell me what's going on here? I'm using lilypond 2.2.3 from the debian woody backports from http://afavant.elte.hu/~wferi/debian . Best regards, Wouter foo = \notes { } baz = \notes { } mytheme = \notes { |\foo \baz \foo \baz| } notenbalk = \notes { \relative c { \mytheme } } gitaartab = \notes { \notenbalk } \score { \context StaffGroup << \context Staff << \notenbalk >> \context TabStaff << \gitaartab >> >> \paper { } } From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jul 03 07:41:04 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BgitD-0006DI-Sb for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jul 2004 07:41:04 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BgitC-0006DA-AG for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jul 2004 07:41:02 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BgitB-0006Cx-HL for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jul 2004 07:41:01 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BgitB-0006Cu-CM for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jul 2004 07:41:01 -0400 Received: from [208.16.180.236] (helo=mpmail3.accesstoledo.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bgiqv-0002yH-OA for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jul 2004 07:38:41 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unverified [68.76.12.26]) by buckeye-express.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 5.3.11) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 3 Jul 2004 07:38:40 -0400 Message-ID: <40E69B41.6010601@buckeye-express.com> Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2004 07:40:49 -0400 From: Scott Webber User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (Windows/20040626) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "lilypond-user@gnu.org" Subject: Re: combining guitar tabs and normal bars References: <20040703092005.GA30371@duckman.blub.net> In-Reply-To: <20040703092005.GA30371@duckman.blub.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2004 11:41:02 -0000 Wouter Hanegraaff wrote: >Hi, > > >Could anyone tell me what's going on here? > > > I recently had a similar problem. Your notes are relative so they are throwing each other off. When you put baz after foo, the g' is an octave up from the previous g and the d will be the closest one to that g - above it. Then when you put another foo after the baz, the c is relative to the d now, so it is still an octave up. You need to add \relative to each chord: >foo = \notes { } > >baz = \notes { } > > foo = \notes \relative c { } baz = \notes \relative c { } Good Luck, Scott From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jul 03 12:12:40 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bgn84-0005Xm-1z for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jul 2004 12:12:40 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bgn82-0005Xh-Od for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jul 2004 12:12:38 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bgn81-0005XV-99 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jul 2004 12:12:38 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bgn81-0005XS-4j for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jul 2004 12:12:37 -0400 Received: from [208.16.180.242] (helo=mpmail6.accesstoledo.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bgn5t-00013H-HB for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jul 2004 12:10:25 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unverified [68.76.12.26]) by buckeye-express.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 5.3.11) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 3 Jul 2004 12:10:25 -0400 Message-ID: <40E6DAF2.1080407@buckeye-express.com> Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2004 12:12:34 -0400 From: Scott Webber User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (Windows/20040626) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "lilypond-user@gnu.org" Subject: setting duration Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2004 16:12:38 -0000 Hey, can someone tell me why this doesn't work: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #(define (eighths note) (set! (ly:music-property note 'duration) (ly:make-duration 3 0)) note) eight = #(ly:make-music-function (list ly:music?) (lambda (location note) (eighths note))) \notes \relative c' { c'16 \eight c c c c c4 c4 } ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No errors, it just doesn't do anything. Lilypond 2.3.5 from cvs. What I'm really trying to do is make a \flam thing that sets up a grace note that is always an eighth: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- startFlamMusic = \notes { \context Voice \applycontext #set-start-grace-properties \override Stem #'stroke-style = #"grace" \override Stem #'direction = #'() } stopFlamMusic = \notes { \revert Stem #'stroke-style \context Voice \applycontext #set-stop-grace-properties } #(define (eighths note) (set! (ly:music-property note 'duration) (ly:make-duration 3 0)) note) #(defmacro-public def-flam-function (start stop) `(def-music-function (location music) (ly:music?) (make-music 'GraceMusic 'origin location 'element (make-music 'SequentialMusic 'elements (list (ly:music-deep-copy ,start) >>>>>>>>>>> (eighths music) (ly:music-deep-copy ,stop)))))) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks, Scott From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jul 03 13:11:34 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bgo34-0003ap-2b for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jul 2004 13:11:34 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bgo33-0003aj-Ba for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jul 2004 13:11:33 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bgo32-0003aX-Dw for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jul 2004 13:11:33 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bgo32-0003aU-9A for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jul 2004 13:11:32 -0400 Received: from [131.178.2.83] (helo=webmail.mty.itesm.mx) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bgo0o-0005zn-B9 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jul 2004 13:09:14 -0400 Received: from akva.diaz.fam (201.128.162.38) by webmail.mty.itesm.mx (5.1.065) id 401B4C62006AA894 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 3 Jul 2004 12:05:18 -0500 Subject: Problem compiling 2.2.3 From: Daniel =?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=EDaz?= To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-Id: <1088874552.829.1208.camel@akva.diaz.fam> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2004 12:09:13 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2004 17:11:33 -0000 [Resent message. I've got a "The message's content type was not explicitly allowed", I guess by GPG signing it.] Hello there. I haven't been able to install Lilypond (any version) in Mandrake 9.1/9.2. Mandrake's RPMs work fine, but they are as old as my granny (1.7.x, I think). The first source tarball I tried was 2.3.5, and it moaned about some try_add being undeclared, so I went for 2.2.3. In 2.2.3, the problem I'm having is this: make[1]: Entering directory `/home/ddiaz/downs/lilypond-2.2.3/mf' echo mf mfont not found "\mode:=3Dlaserjet; nonstopmode; input feta11.mf;" mf mfont not found \mode:=3Dlaserjet; nonstopmode; input feta11.mf; mv feta11.log feta11.tfm ./out mv: cannot stat `feta11.log': No such file or directory mv: cannot stat `feta11.tfm': No such file or directory make[1]: *** [out/feta11.tfm] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/ddiaz/downs/lilypond-2.2.3/mf' make: *** [all] Error 2 I certainly couldn't follow the track in the makefiles, and I really don't know about fonts or *tex or postscript stuff. What can I do for it? The 1.7.x version doesn't let me use <<>> for \new Staves (actually, complains about \new), and the -m switch is not doing anything at all, so it's rather useless for me now as it is. Thanks in advance for any hint. Greetings! Daniel D=EDaz yosoy@danieldiaz.org From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jul 03 13:44:38 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BgoZ3-00026i-W4 for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jul 2004 13:44:38 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BgoZ1-00021F-Kw for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jul 2004 13:44:35 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BgoZ0-0001ww-06 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jul 2004 13:44:35 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BgoYz-0001wp-Rt for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jul 2004 13:44:33 -0400 Received: from [62.240.72.111] (helo=smtp2.dnainternet.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BgoWi-00017p-Nm for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jul 2004 13:42:17 -0400 Received: from baana224-122.baanapalvelut.net ([213.186.224.122]:3797 "EHLO [213.186.224.122]" TLS-CIPHER: ) by smtp2.dnainternet.net with ESMTP id S1234482AbUGCRl7 (ORCPT ); Sat, 3 Jul 2004 20:41:59 +0300 Message-ID: <40E6F003.5050300@medialounge.com> Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2004 20:42:27 +0300 From: Sami Huhtala User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (Windows/20040626) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Automatically assign override-values Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2004 17:44:35 -0000 Hi, I'm a bit unhappy with Lilypond's default ties and working on an idea to fix them. Is it possible to automatically assign override-values to a tie based on it's length? (e.g. if tie is short, say less than 5.0, to use certain 'x-gap -value). Sami From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jul 03 13:57:35 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bgolb-0006BQ-BN for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jul 2004 13:57:35 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BgolZ-0006AR-F6 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jul 2004 13:57:33 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BgolX-00069t-5I for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jul 2004 13:57:32 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BgolX-00069c-0Y for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jul 2004 13:57:31 -0400 Received: from [212.23.3.141] (helo=heisenberg.zen.co.uk) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BgojS-00060C-3C for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jul 2004 13:55:22 -0400 Received: from [82.69.23.82] (helo=horus.local) by heisenberg.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BgojQ-0004ol-Qm for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jul 2004 17:55:20 +0000 From: Tim Sawyer To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Coda Wheel and Sign not printing Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 18:56:21 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <200406261330.19724.lists@calidris.co.uk> <20040703024500.GB29050@primus.com.au> <200407031855.10641.tsawyer@calidris.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <200407031855.10641.tsawyer@calidris.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200407031856.21155.lists@calidris.co.uk> X-Originating-Heisenberg-IP: [82.69.23.82] X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2004 17:57:33 -0000 On Saturday 03 Jul 2004 03:45, Bruce wrote: > Looks like convert-ly is wrong. I don't use your version of lilypond > however see > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.0/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/The-Feta >-f ont.html#The%20Feta%20font > > for the proper markup syntax and > > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.0/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Rehearsa >l- marks.html#Rehearsal%20marks > > to typeset markup on a barline. Many thanks, \mark \markup { \musicglyph #"scripts-segno" } and \mark \markup { \musicglyph #"scripts-coda" } works! Cheers, Tim. From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jul 03 16:14:08 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bgqtk-00016h-Bh for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jul 2004 16:14:08 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bgqti-00014e-JP for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jul 2004 16:14:06 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bgqth-00014P-2y for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jul 2004 16:14:06 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bgqtg-00014M-Qh for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jul 2004 16:14:05 -0400 Received: from [208.16.180.238] (helo=mpmail4.accesstoledo.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BgqrS-0005Ss-08 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jul 2004 16:11:46 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unverified [68.76.12.26]) by buckeye-express.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 5.3.11) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 3 Jul 2004 16:11:45 -0400 Message-ID: <40E71382.7010804@buckeye-express.com> Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2004 16:13:54 -0400 From: Scott Webber User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (Windows/20040626) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "lilypond-user@gnu.org" Subject: Re: Problem compiling 2.2.3 References: <1088874552.829.1208.camel@akva.diaz.fam> In-Reply-To: <1088874552.829.1208.camel@akva.diaz.fam> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2004 20:14:06 -0000 Daniel Díaz wrote: >[Resent message. I've got a "The message's content type was not >explicitly allowed", I guess by GPG signing it.] > > >Hello there. > >I haven't been able to install Lilypond (any version) in Mandrake >9.1/9.2. Mandrake's RPMs work fine, but they are as old as my granny >(1.7.x, I think). The first source tarball I tried was 2.3.5, and it >moaned about some try_add being undeclared, so I went for 2.2.3. > >In 2.2.3, the problem I'm having is this: > >make[1]: Entering directory `/home/ddiaz/downs/lilypond-2.2.3/mf' >echo mf mfont not found "\mode:=laserjet; nonstopmode; input feta11.mf;" >mf mfont not found \mode:=laserjet; nonstopmode; input feta11.mf; > > I'm no expert, but it looks like you don't have mf installed. Did you read the INSTALL doc? It tells you about all the dependencies and the steps to build. However, it does NOT tell you about the depencencies of some of the dependencies ;) I got it to work on Mandake 9.2. Most of the depencencies I didn't have yet, so I downloaded source tarballs or src rpms for all of them. Here's a list of the things I installed to get 2.3.5 to build: autoconf 2.59 - I can't remember which version was already installed on my system, but it didn't work right. autotrace ??? fontforge ??? guile 1.6.4 mftrace 1.0.33 potrace 1.4 and kpathsea which I'm pretty sure didn't work with the mdk9.2 tex that was installed, so I installed a new tetex 2.0.2 Also, I downgraded bison to 1.35 but I don't think that's necessary. Flex was already installed on my system. And one more thing: 2.3.5 needed some new font library which you can get from the lilypond downloads - ec-fonts-mftraced-1.0.1.tar.gz. IMO, for a guy not really experienced with config/make/install, it was a pretty challenging task getting lilypond to build. Good luck, Scott From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jul 03 16:25:37 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bgr4r-0005j5-Mv for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jul 2004 16:25:37 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bgr4q-0005iK-Sv for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jul 2004 16:25:36 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bgr4p-0005fc-9Y for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jul 2004 16:25:36 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bgr4p-0005fS-6o for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jul 2004 16:25:35 -0400 Received: from [208.16.180.232] (helo=mpmail1.accesstoledo.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bgr2n-0001Ey-Ps for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jul 2004 16:23:29 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unverified [68.76.12.26]) by buckeye-express.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 5.3.11) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 3 Jul 2004 16:23:29 -0400 Message-ID: <40E71642.70601@buckeye-express.com> Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2004 16:25:38 -0400 From: Scott Webber User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (Windows/20040626) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "lilypond-user@gnu.org" Subject: Crazy $TEXMF procmail question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2004 20:25:37 -0000 Hey everybody, I got this brainy idea to setup a procmail address that you email .ly src to and it emails you back a pdf file. So my problem is that the $TEXMF variable isn't being set properly in my .sh script. Here's the code: -------------------------------------------------------- . /etc/profile #this is a hack. Shouldn't this be loaded by the profile or something? export TEXMF='{/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5,{/home/batsshadow/texmf,!!/usr/share/texmf-local,!!/usr/share/texmf}}' ------------------------------------------------------------ So does anybody know how this is actually set? It works fine if I'm not in the procmail script. If anybody wants to see the whole procmail setup, just ask. 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X-MailScanner-From: hanwen@xs4all.nl Cc: Ralph Little , lilypond-user@gnu.org, bug-lilypond@gnu.org, Mats Bengtsson X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: hanwen@xs4all.nl List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jul 2004 12:35:49 -0000 erik.sandberg.9195@student.uu.se writes: > Added this to repository as crash-axis-group-engraver.ly I fixed this in CVS - but I couldn't find the bug in the repository. Am I missing something? -- Han-Wen Nienhuys | hanwen@xs4all.nl | http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jul 04 09:20:14 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bh6uk-0000BD-51 for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jul 2004 09:20:14 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bh6uj-0000Aj-5E for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jul 2004 09:20:13 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bh6uh-00009X-7f for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jul 2004 09:20:12 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bh6uh-00009T-5q for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jul 2004 09:20:11 -0400 Received: from [213.84.26.127] (helo=localhost.localdomain) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1Bh6sj-0008GP-D6 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jul 2004 09:18:11 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain.byrd.xs4all.nl (byrd [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i64DHiWg008910; Sun, 4 Jul 2004 15:17:46 +0200 From: Han-Wen Nienhuys MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16616.888.732625.425719@localhost.localdomain> Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2004 15:17:44 +0200 To: Scott Webber Subject: setting duration In-Reply-To: <40E6DAF2.1080407@buckeye-express.com> References: <40E6DAF2.1080407@buckeye-express.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.14 under Emacs 21.3.1 X-yoursite-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-yoursite-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: hanwen@xs4all.nl Cc: "lilypond-user@gnu.org" X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: hanwen@xs4all.nl List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jul 2004 13:20:13 -0000 swebber@buckeye-express.com writes: > No errors, it just doesn't do anything. are you sure that the functions are called? (try adding (display "hi\n") statements) -- Han-Wen Nienhuys | hanwen@xs4all.nl | http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jul 04 09:58:16 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bh7VY-0003te-Ex for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jul 2004 09:58:16 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bh7VW-0003tU-Dw for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jul 2004 09:58:14 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bh7VU-0003tC-Kj for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jul 2004 09:58:13 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bh7VU-0003t2-JH for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jul 2004 09:58:12 -0400 Received: from [208.16.180.236] (helo=mpmail3.accesstoledo.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bh7TO-0003Wv-57 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jul 2004 09:56:02 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unverified [68.76.12.26]) by buckeye-express.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 5.3.11) with ESMTP id for ; Sun, 4 Jul 2004 09:56:01 -0400 Message-ID: <40E80CF3.6070903@buckeye-express.com> Date: Sun, 04 Jul 2004 09:58:11 -0400 From: Scott Webber User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (Windows/20040626) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "lilypond-user@gnu.org" Subject: Re: setting duration References: <40E6DAF2.1080407@buckeye-express.com> <16616.888.732625.425719@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <16616.888.732625.425719@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jul 2004 13:58:14 -0000 Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: >swebber@buckeye-express.com writes: > > >>No errors, it just doesn't do anything. >> >> > >are you sure that the functions are called? (try adding (display >"hi\n") statements) > > > > Yeah, the functions were being called. I was able to fix this by changing eighths to: #(define (eighths note) (music-map (lambda (x) (set! (ly:music-property x 'duration) (ly:make-duration 3 0)) x) note)) I still don't really understand what is going on, but I was basically just hunting all over different source for things that changed music-properties. My percussion stuff is starting to come along now. I'm still working on getting my \flam exactly right, but when I do, I'll post it to the list for everyone. I've been working on \diddle too. Scott From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jul 04 11:34:46 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bh90w-00049S-Hy for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jul 2004 11:34:46 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bh90u-00049K-Hr for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jul 2004 11:34:44 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bh90s-000498-Uh for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jul 2004 11:34:44 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bh90s-000495-Rl for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jul 2004 11:34:42 -0400 Received: from [194.109.24.7] (helo=smtp-out6.xs4all.nl) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bh8yq-00010K-Gf for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jul 2004 11:32:36 -0400 Received: from peder.flower (appel.xs4all.nl [80.126.34.178]) by smtp-out6.xs4all.nl (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i64FWJew089944; Sun, 4 Jul 2004 17:32:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=peder.flower ident=janneke) by peder.flower with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bh8ya-0000qi-98; Sun, 04 Jul 2004 17:32:20 +0200 To: svoboda@cs.cmu.edu Subject: Re: [svoboda@mandal.lti.cs.cmu.edu] Lilypond Comments! References: From: Jan Nieuwenhuizen Organization: Jan at Appel Date: Sun, 04 Jul 2004 17:32:20 +0200 In-Reply-To: (svoboda@mandal.lti.cs.cmu.edu's message of "30 Jun 2004 14:46:16 -0400") Message-ID: <87n02f3i0r.fsf@peder.flower> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: mwd@cert.org, svoboda@mandal.lti.cs.cmu.edu, lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jul 2004 15:34:44 -0000 > Since no one else has attacked this problem, I figured I'd take a > whack at it. My results are appended to this message. Great. > Hence 'C-c b' displays the current beat in the minibuffer; displayed > as a ratio. i.e. if it shows 3/8, it means there are the equivalent of > 3 eighth notes between the point and the last measure indicator (|). > > Comments? It works, basically, even for things like: | 4 | \times 2/3 { a8 b c a b c} > Buggestions? * Grok more common syntax stuff, like %% foe | a4 b8 | c16( d f) | c4-2 d * Intergrate it with emacs mode * Bind (a safe-variant of) it to '|' (or maybe even RET) Thanks! 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Sun, 04 Jul 2004 18:41:18 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BhFfg-0002K7-GK for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jul 2004 18:41:17 -0400 Received: from [213.84.26.127] (helo=localhost.localdomain) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1BhFdb-0005Jt-Rs for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jul 2004 18:39:08 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain.byrd.xs4all.nl (byrd [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i64Md8t9024713; Mon, 5 Jul 2004 00:39:08 +0200 From: Han-Wen Nienhuys MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16616.34572.389894.977768@localhost.localdomain> Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 00:39:08 +0200 To: John Sellers Subject: Re: Good job on Lilypond In-Reply-To: <40E83CED.2030307@sellers.com> References: <40E223A2.1010104@sellers.com> <16615.64884.774966.333485@localhost.localdomain> <40E83CED.2030307@sellers.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.14 under Emacs 21.3.1 X-yoursite-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-yoursite-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: hanwen@xs4all.nl Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: hanwen@xs4all.nl List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jul 2004 22:41:19 -0000 (flup to mailing list) jsellers@sellers.com writes: > Thanks for the response. It has been a help. See additional comment below. > > Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > > > [Snip] > > > >I'm sorry - I have trouble with connecting your idea with how lily > >works. It probably means that our documentation is still not clear > >enough on contexts. > > > > > > > The areas I had trouble is figuring out the parsing rules of context and > what "context" (english word, not lilypond concept) in which lilypond > context can and can not be used. > > For example, the nested expressions you can create (e.g stuff like { > << ... >> ... } .... { ... { ... } } ) > > can be grasped immediately. However the parsing rules of various things > that you put into these nested expressions are confusing and obscure to > the novices even when examples are given. How do Contexts fit in this > algebra? What are the rules of backslash escape sequences in relation > to this "algebra"? I hope you get my drift. The the nested hierarchy Are you looking for a BNF definition of the grammar? > The second area of trouble I sense, is that the results do not always > intuative follow the expression. It seems to me that ordering of > expressions should control the ordering of display. I've seen other No, the ordering of expressions controls the ordering of object creation. The ordering of display can depend on other settings. 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Scott From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jul 05 04:05:06 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BhOTH-0006yA-9p for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 04:05:06 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BhOTE-0006xz-Qp for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 04:05:01 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BhOTB-0006xL-VD for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 04:04:58 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BhOTB-0006xC-O4 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 04:04:57 -0400 Received: from [130.237.43.24] (helo=iris.s3.kth.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BhOQz-000645-J8 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 04:02:41 -0400 Received: from localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.md.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74E6961B04; Mon, 5 Jul 2004 10:02:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se ([130.237.43.24]) by localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id 10758-10; Mon, 5 Jul 2004 10:02:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DC9461BA3; Mon, 5 Jul 2004 10:02:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [130.237.50.49] (drongo.s3.kth.se [130.237.50.49]) by iris.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC2EF61B04; Mon, 5 Jul 2004 10:02:31 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <40E90B17.6040409@s3.kth.se> Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 10:02:31 +0200 From: Mats Bengtsson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Webber Subject: Re: Crazy $TEXMF procmail question References: <40E71642.70601@buckeye-express.com> In-Reply-To: <40E71642.70601@buckeye-express.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "lilypond-user@gnu.org" X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 08:05:01 -0000 Could it possibly be that the script is run by /bin/sh when called from procmail but /bin/bash when you call it directly. Try: TEXMF='...' export TEXMF /Mats Scott Webber wrote: > Hey everybody, > > I got this brainy idea to setup a procmail address that you email .ly > src to and it emails you back a pdf file. So my problem is that the > $TEXMF variable isn't being set properly in my .sh script. Here's the > code: > > -------------------------------------------------------- > . /etc/profile > > #this is a hack. Shouldn't this be loaded by the profile or something? > export > TEXMF='{/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.3.5,{/home/batsshadow/texmf,!!/usr/share/texmf-local,!!/usr/share/texmf}}' > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > So does anybody know how this is actually set? It works fine if I'm not > in the procmail script. If anybody wants to see the whole procmail > setup, just ask. > > Thanks, > Scott > > > _______________________________________________ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- ============================================= Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: mats.bengtsson@s3.kth.se WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe ============================================= From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jul 05 04:12:28 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BhOaR-0001SO-QZ for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 04:12:27 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BhOaQ-0001Qy-Gb for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 04:12:26 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BhOaO-0001PT-OX for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 04:12:26 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BhOaO-0001PN-KO for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 04:12:24 -0400 Received: from [194.109.24.13] (helo=smtp-out3.xs4all.nl) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BhOYC-0007yN-6m for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 04:10:08 -0400 Received: from peder.flower (appel.xs4all.nl [80.126.34.178]) by smtp-out3.xs4all.nl (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i658A7KP060871; Mon, 5 Jul 2004 10:10:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=peder.flower ident=janneke) by peder.flower with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BhOYB-0005sc-Sl; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 10:10:07 +0200 To: hanwen@xs4all.nl Subject: Re: Good job on Lilypond References: <40E223A2.1010104@sellers.com> <16615.64884.774966.333485@localhost.localdomain> <40E83CED.2030307@sellers.com> <16616.34572.389894.977768@localhost.localdomain> From: Jan Nieuwenhuizen Organization: Jan at Appel Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 10:10:07 +0200 In-Reply-To: <16616.34572.389894.977768@localhost.localdomain> (Han-Wen Nienhuys's message of "Mon, 5 Jul 2004 00:39:08 +0200") Message-ID: <876592ho2o.fsf@peder.flower> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org, John Sellers X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 08:12:26 -0000 Han-Wen Nienhuys writes: > No, the ordering of expressions controls the ordering of object > creation. For example, due to formatting rules, the clef is always > printed left of the key signature. This is quite obvious if you know LilyPond, shouldn't this be mentioned in the tutorial (next to automatic beam quanting and such?) Jan. -- Jan Nieuwenhuizen | GNU LilyPond - The music typesetter http://www.xs4all.nl/~jantien | http://www.lilypond.org From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jul 05 04:36:01 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BhOxF-0000jI-9t for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 04:36:01 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BhOxC-0000hl-F5 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 04:35:58 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BhOx8-0000gW-QS for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 04:35:56 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BhOx8-0000gP-LW for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 04:35:54 -0400 Received: from [194.109.24.13] (helo=smtp-out3.xs4all.nl) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BhOus-00050J-2B for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 04:33:34 -0400 Received: from peder.flower (appel.xs4all.nl [80.126.34.178]) by smtp-out3.xs4all.nl (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i658VTFu086398; Mon, 5 Jul 2004 10:31:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=peder.flower ident=janneke) by peder.flower with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BhOsp-0005yV-9i; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 10:31:27 +0200 To: svoboda@cs.cmu.edu Mail-followup-to: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: [svoboda@mandal.lti.cs.cmu.edu] Lilypond Comments! References: <87n02f3i0r.fsf@peder.flower> From: Jan Nieuwenhuizen Organization: Jan at Appel Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 10:31:27 +0200 In-Reply-To: (svoboda@mandal.lti.cs.cmu.edu's message of "04 Jul 2004 18:03:26 -0400") Message-ID: <87wu1ig8io.fsf@peder.flower> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 08:35:59 -0000 [flup to mailing list] >> %% foe >> | a4 b8 >> | c16( d f) >> | c4-2 d > > OK. Is there a BNF grammar I can examine? I'm not sure just what > other kinds of exotic stuff 'what-beat' would have to recognize. No. The specification is in lily/parser.yy, but you can get most important things from the tutorial. > BTW what > does c4-2 mean? Yes, I'm fairly new to Lilypond :) Fingering: use second finger. > Yesterday, I jsut > discovered that what-beat doesn't work with slurs, and fixed it. Good, the same is needed for beams, ties, comments, fingering, to name some of the most common exotic things. > I presume you mean lilypond's emacs mode, right? I can create a patch > & send it to you if that's what you prefer. Yes, that was what I meant, but please discuss with Heikki what needs to be done before it goes in. >> * Bind (a safe-variant of) it to '|' (or maybe even RET) > > I'll bind it to C-| then. O, the curren explicit binding is fine, I just thought an implicit binding (electric if you like) could be nice: every time you close a bar | you're told how many beats? Jan. -- Jan Nieuwenhuizen | GNU LilyPond - The music typesetter http://www.xs4all.nl/~jantien | http://www.lilypond.org From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jul 05 06:44:30 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BhQxa-0005n1-Fq for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 06:44:30 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BhQxZ-0005mE-EV for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 06:44:29 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BhQxY-0005lj-O7 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 06:44:29 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BhQxX-0005kW-I9; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 06:44:27 -0400 Received: from [130.237.43.24] (helo=iris.s3.kth.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BhQvI-0000ty-Jo; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 06:42:09 -0400 Received: from localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.md.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3488A61ADC; Mon, 5 Jul 2004 12:42:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se ([130.237.43.24]) by localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id 16366-08; Mon, 5 Jul 2004 12:42:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA09F61BA3; Mon, 5 Jul 2004 12:42:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [130.237.50.49] (drongo.s3.kth.se [130.237.50.49]) by iris.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 808FA61ADC; Mon, 5 Jul 2004 12:42:05 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <40E9307D.4010509@s3.kth.se> Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 12:42:05 +0200 From: Mats Bengtsson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Will Oram Subject: Re: Making a lilypond-book -- IT WORKS...sort of References: <40E3CC5F.40801@s3.kth.se> <6F79E07E-CB78-11D8-8FF2-00039348F482@foxchange.com> <40E5297A.4040300@s3.kth.se> In-Reply-To: <40E5297A.4040300@s3.kth.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Lilypond bug , lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 10:44:29 -0000 Having had a look at the full files, I realize what's up, namely a missing feature in lilypond-book! The problem is that your file mvmt1/mvmt1.ly includes other files from the subdirectory mvmt1, using lines such as: \include "violino1.ly" \include "violino2.ly" \include "viola.ly" The same goes for mvmt3/mvmt3.ly. Since the lilypond program is run in the base directory, it didn't find the include files in the subdirectories mvmt1/ and mvmt3/. To solve that, you probably used lilypond-book -I mvmt1/ --output=out/ tchai_op35_book.tex which means that both mvmt1/mvmt1.ly and mvmt3/mvmt3.ly will include the files from the same directory: mvmt1/ The best solution would be if it was possible to specify a separate include directory for each \lilypondfile{...} or \begin{lilypond}...\end{lilypond} directive. I could imagine a syntax like \lilypondfile[includepath="mvmt1"]{mvmt1/mvmt1.ly} However, until this feature request has been implemented, I'm afraid you will have to add the directory name in every \include statement, for example \include "mvmt1/violino1.ly" \include "mvmt1/violino2.ly" \include "mvmt1/viola.ly" in the file mvmt1/mvmt1.ly and \include "mvmt3/violino1.ly" \include "mvmt3/violino2.ly" \include "mvmt3/viola.ly" in the file mvmt3/mvmt3.ly Then you should call lilypond-book without any additional include path directives: lilypond-book -o out/ tchai_op35_book.tex Of course, this makes the solution less flexible, since if you change the directory structure, you have to change all the \include directives. Also, it means that the mvmt1/mvmt1.ly file will not work stand-alone (to solve this latter problem, you could consider to move the mvmt1.ly and mvmt3.ly files to the top directory). /Mats Mats Bengtsson wrote: > I don't understand what's going on here. Could you please send > the full example (in a private email if you wish) or send the > following: > - The generated .tex file that you process with latex. > - The output of 'grep renameinput lily-*.ly' (to be run in the > output directory of lilypond-book. > > /Mats > > Will Oram wrote: > >>>> A more serious problem is that I can't seem to have multiple >>>> \lilypondfile's in one .tex file. This is my code: >>>> \documentclass[a4paper]{opera} >>>> \begin{document} >>>> \title {Violin Concerto in D Major} >>>> \subtitle {Opus 35} >>>> \author {Peter Ilyitch Tchaikovsky} >>>> \date {\today} >>>> \maketitle >>>> \begin{center} >>>> {\huge{I. Allegro Moderato}} \\ >>>> \end{center} >>>> \lilypondfile{mvmt1/mvmt1.ly} >>>> \begin{center} >>>> {\huge{III. Finale}} \\ >>>> \end{center} >>>> \lilypondfile{mvmt3/mvmt3.ly} >>>> \end{document} >>>> The resulting output is the title page, mvmt1 header, mvmt1, NO >>>> header at all, mvmt1 AGAIN. What's up? >>> >>> >>> >>> I tried your example with some small files in mvmt1.ly and mvmt3.ly and >>> it works fine here. You can hopefully get a hint on what's up if you >>> run lilypond-book with the additional flag --verbose and also take a >>> careful look at the printouts from LaTeX. >> >> >> >> --verbose doesn't reveal much, other than it is indeed compiling the >> same mvmt1 twice. The last thing lilypond-book says that's on track >> is 'input renamed to: `mvmt3/mvmt3.ly''. After that it proceeds to >> reprocess mvmt1. >> >>> I recommend to remove all >>> lily-*.ly files first to make sure that lilypond-book reruns all the >>> steps. >> >> >> >> AFAIK, I have to do that every time I build this project, else I get >> 'All snippets are up to date', whether or not that's actually true. >> >> Will Oram // Genius @ Large // AIM spamguy21 >> spamguy (at) foxchange (dot) com // wro1 (at) cwru (dot) edu >> > -- ============================================= Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: mats.bengtsson@s3.kth.se WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe ============================================= From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jul 05 08:15:38 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BhSNl-0000uc-FX for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 08:15:37 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BhSKP-0007XM-67 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 08:12:09 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BhSIa-0006WU-2w for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 08:10:17 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BhSCq-0003wJ-Br for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 08:04:20 -0400 Received: from [130.237.43.24] (helo=iris.s3.kth.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BhSAc-0002Ra-F0 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 08:02:02 -0400 Received: from localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.md.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B0361AD0; Mon, 5 Jul 2004 14:02:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se ([130.237.43.24]) by localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id 19127-09; Mon, 5 Jul 2004 14:01:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29EB161B11; Mon, 5 Jul 2004 14:02:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [130.237.50.49] (drongo.s3.kth.se [130.237.50.49]) by iris.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEDF061AD0; Mon, 5 Jul 2004 14:01:57 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <40E94336.1030603@s3.kth.se> Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 14:01:58 +0200 From: Mats Bengtsson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bertalan Fodor Subject: Re: proper placing of chordnames re: alternative ending brackets References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org, 'John Sellers' X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 12:15:33 -0000 I have added the following example to the Tips and Tricks document (both for 2.2.x and the development series). \version "2.2.0" \header { texidoc = "@cindex ChordNames repeats To make the chord names appear below the brackets of the alternative endings of a repeat, move the Volta_engraver to the Score level. " } \score{ << \new ChordNames \chords{ \repeat volta 2 { f1:maj f:7} \alternative{{bes:7}{c:maj}} } \new Staff \notes \relative c'{ \repeat volta 2 { c4 d e f g a b c } \alternative{{g2 e }{c1}} } >> \paper { \context { \ScoreContext \consists "Volta_engraver" \override VoltaBracket #'minimum-space = #0 } \context { \StaffContext \remove "Volta_engraver" } } } /Mats Bertalan Fodor wrote: > Hello, > > you could use this instead: > > ... > \context Staff = one \with { \remove Volta_engraver } > \melody > ... > > \paper { > \context { > \ScoreContext \consists "Volta_engraver" > \override VoltaBracket #'minimum-space = #0 > } > } > > Bert > > > > _______________________________________________ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- ============================================= Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: mats.bengtsson@s3.kth.se WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe ============================================= From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jul 05 08:24:08 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BhSW0-000804-4i for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 08:24:08 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BhSVy-0007zT-Fm for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 08:24:07 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BhSVw-0007xI-8N for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 08:24:05 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BhSVr-0007wa-OG; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 08:23:59 -0400 Received: from [194.109.24.13] (helo=smtp-out3.xs4all.nl) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BhSTQ-0007q8-Kk; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 08:21:29 -0400 Received: from peder.flower (appel.xs4all.nl [80.126.34.178]) by smtp-out3.xs4all.nl (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i65CLPtQ018689; Mon, 5 Jul 2004 14:21:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=peder.flower ident=janneke) by peder.flower with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BhSTN-0003uW-TY; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 14:21:25 +0200 To: Mats Bengtsson Subject: Re: Making a lilypond-book -- IT WORKS...sort of References: <40E3CC5F.40801@s3.kth.se> <6F79E07E-CB78-11D8-8FF2-00039348F482@foxchange.com> <40E5297A.4040300@s3.kth.se> <40E9307D.4010509@s3.kth.se> From: Jan Nieuwenhuizen Organization: Jan at Appel Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 14:21:25 +0200 In-Reply-To: <40E9307D.4010509@s3.kth.se> (Mats Bengtsson's message of "Mon, 05 Jul 2004 12:42:05 +0200") Message-ID: <87k6xifxve.fsf@peder.flower> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org, Lilypond bug , Will Oram X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 12:24:07 -0000 Mats Bengtsson writes: > Having had a look at the full files, I realize what's up, Thanks looking into this, Mats, however > namely a missing feature in lilypond-book! > separate include directory for each \lilypondfile{...} or > \begin{lilypond}...\end{lilypond} directive. I object to this feature request. It doesn't seem intuitive (never seen something like this) or necessary: there are several simple ways to tackle this problem. I think it makes a lot of sense that a file name should be unique within a project. In this case the name of the movement should be added everywhere, as you suggest: \include "mvmt1/violino1.ly" and the directory that where mvmt{1,2,3} live should always be in the include path. > Also, it means that the mvmt1/mvmt1.ly file will not work stand-alone Why is that? Jan. -- Jan Nieuwenhuizen | GNU LilyPond - The music typesetter http://www.xs4all.nl/~jantien | http://www.lilypond.org From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jul 05 09:45:08 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BhTmO-0000HT-3n for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 09:45:08 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BhTmK-0000GM-JH for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 09:45:04 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BhTmJ-0000Fx-1a for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 09:45:03 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BhTmG-0000FA-Ht; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 09:45:00 -0400 Received: from [130.237.43.24] (helo=iris.s3.kth.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BhTkB-0002Cy-Rd; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 09:42:52 -0400 Received: from localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.md.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B33061B42; Mon, 5 Jul 2004 15:42:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se ([130.237.43.24]) by localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id 23452-07; Mon, 5 Jul 2004 15:42:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15EF361B28; Mon, 5 Jul 2004 15:42:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [130.237.50.49] (drongo.s3.kth.se [130.237.50.49]) by iris.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE25061B20; Mon, 5 Jul 2004 15:42:48 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <40E95AD9.8010609@s3.kth.se> Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 15:42:49 +0200 From: Mats Bengtsson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jan Nieuwenhuizen Subject: Re: Making a lilypond-book -- IT WORKS...sort of References: <40E3CC5F.40801@s3.kth.se> <6F79E07E-CB78-11D8-8FF2-00039348F482@foxchange.com> <40E5297A.4040300@s3.kth.se> <40E9307D.4010509@s3.kth.se> <87k6xifxve.fsf@peder.flower> In-Reply-To: <87k6xifxve.fsf@peder.flower> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Lilypond bug , lilypond-user@gnu.org, Will Oram X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 13:45:04 -0000 Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: > Mats Bengtsson writes: > > >>Having had a look at the full files, I realize what's up, > > > Thanks looking into this, Mats, however > > >>namely a missing feature in lilypond-book! > > >>separate include directory for each \lilypondfile{...} or >>\begin{lilypond}...\end{lilypond} directive. > > > I object to this feature request. It doesn't seem intuitive (never > seen something like this) or necessary: there are several simple ways > to tackle this problem. I think it makes a lot of sense that a file > name should be unique within a project. Really? I think it makes sence to do as Will, namely to put the cello part in a file called cello.ly. If you then have one separate directory for each movement, it would just add redundancy to also att the movement number to each file within the directory. Compare to the normal form in database design, that tries to remove such redundancy. Also, I actually think that you have seen similar approaches in recursive Makefile structures, for example, where the top level makefile has to set some extra paths in order for the included lower level makefiles to work. >>Also, it means that the mvmt1/mvmt1.ly file will not work stand-alone > > > Why is that? Assume that you have a lilypond-book document in the directory main/ containing \lilypondfile{mvmt1/mvmt1.ly} Then, the file main/mvmt1/mvmt1.ly has to contain include directives of the form \include "mvmt1/piano.ly" in order to work. This means that it will search for main/mvmt1/mvmt1/piano.ly when you run 'lilypond mvmt1.ly' in the directory main/mvmt1/. I think this is a major difference to program development file structures, where it's uncommon to have one and the same file used both as a standalone top-level file and as an include file in a larger project (maybe with the exception of Makefiles as indicated above). /Mats From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jul 05 13:47:43 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BhXZ9-0003DY-AZ for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 13:47:43 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BhXZ7-0003Cj-Em for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 13:47:41 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BhXZ6-0003CR-8a for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 13:47:41 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BhXZ6-0003C8-4l for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 13:47:40 -0400 Received: from [213.51.128.198] (helo=smtpq3.home.nl) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BhXWh-0008HE-OA for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 13:45:12 -0400 Received: from [213.51.128.135] (port=57151 helo=smtp4.home.nl) by smtpq3.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BhXWd-00080k-47 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 19:45:07 +0200 Received: from cc264379-a.groni1.gr.home.nl ([217.121.214.156]:1444 helo=cc264379-a.home.nl) by smtp4.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BhXWX-0007ho-O1 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 19:45:01 +0200 Message-Id: <6.0.2.0.2.20040705193332.03206750@mail> X-Sender: wolvendans@mail X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.2.0 Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 19:44:13 +0200 To: Lilypond Mailinglist From: Thorkil Wolvendans Subject: Problem with \f at the beginning of a score Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Neem contact op met support@home.nl voor meer informatie X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 17:47:41 -0000 Hi everyone! I'm staring at my source-file for 2 hours now, and can't find the result to the problem: the forte symbol refuses to appear at the beginning of the score. For some odd reason, the symbol shows up at the next bar, when I want it to show up in the first. Now, this only happens in the first bar, all other bars react as normal. Is this some kind of bug, or do I just overlook something? This is the score: %%% BEGIN OF THE SCORE %%% \paper {} \version "2.2.2" \header { } %%% AANWIJZINGEN %%% global = \notes { \time 4/4 s1^""^""^\markup{\bold "Allegro con spirito ma non troppo"} s1*11\break s1^""^\markup{\bold "Rubato misterioso"} s1*7 \repeat volta 2 { s1^\markup {\italic attacca}^\markup {\bold "A tempo"} s1*13\bar "||" s1^""^""^""^""^""^""^\markup{\italic staccatissimo} s1*5 s1^""^""^""^\markup{\italic legato} s1*2\bar"||" s1^""^""^""^""^\markup {\italic bruscamente} s1*9\bar"||" s1^""^""^""^""^\markup {\italic amabile} s1*15 s1^""^""^\markup {\italic "con forza"} s1\bar"||"} \alternative {{s1*9^""^""^\markup {\italic stringendo}\bar ":|:"} {s1^""^""^\markup {\italic "con allegrezza"} }} s1*5 s1^\markup {\italic "misterioso, bisbigliando"} s1*24\bar"||" s1^""^""^""^\markup {\italic bruscamente} s1*12\bar"||" s1^""^\markup {\italic attacca} s1*7\bar "||" s1^""^""^\markup {\italic staccato} s1*6\bar "||" s1^""^""^""^\markup {\italic "maestoso e brilliante ma non ritardando"} s1*15\bar "||" s1^""^\markup {\italic "bruscamente con spirito"} s1*13\bar ":|" } ksr = \notes { \set Staff.explicitKeySignatureVisibility = #end-of-line-invisible \set Staff.printKeyCancellation = ##f \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((0 . 5) . 2)) s1*21 \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((-2 . 5) . 2)) s1*14\break \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((1 . 5) . 2)) s1*4\break \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((2 . 5) . 2)) s1*4 \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((-2 . 5) . 2)) \break s1*3\break s1*3\break s1*4\break \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((1 . 5) . 2)) s1*6 \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((2 . 5) . 2)) s1*5 \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((0 . 5) . 2)) s1*51\break s1*4 \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((1 . 5) . 2)) s1*4\break s1*4 \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((1 . 5) . 2)) s1*14 \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((0 . 5) . 2)) s1*19\break \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((1 . 5) . 2)) s1*4\break s1*3 \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((2 . 5) . 2)) } ksl = \notes { \set Staff.explicitKeySignatureVisibility = #end-of-line-invisible \set Staff.printKeyCancellation = ##f \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((-2 . 5) . 2)) s1*43 \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((-3 . 5) . 2)) s1*10 \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((-2 . 5) . 2)) s1*62 \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((-3 . 5) . 2)) s1*12 \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((-2 . 5) . 2)) s1*9 \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((-3 . 5) . 2)) s1*20 \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((-2 . 5) . 2)) s1*11 \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((-3 . 5) . 2)) } %%% NOTEN %%% rh = \notes \relative c'' { #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end * * * *) 1 4 'Staff) %%EXPOSITION -- [1st group] INTRODUCTION (THEME 1) r4 a-> b-> d,-> | f2-> r | r4 a-> b-> d,-> | f2-> r | r4 a-> b-> d,-> | f-> a-> b-> d,-> | f-> a-> b-> d,-> | f-> a-> b-> d,-> | f-> a-> b-> d,-> | f-> a-> b-> d,-> | f-> a-> b-> d,-> | f2-^ r | R1*8 | %%EXPOSITION -- [1st group] THEME 2 \clef bass R1 | r8 << {a, a->( f)-. a(-> b)-. a(-> f)-. | a-.}\\{d, d4 d d | d8-.}>> r8 r4 r r | r8 << {a' a(-> f)-. a(-> b)-. a(-> b)-. | d(-> b a)-.}\\{d, d4 d d | d d8-.}>> r8 r <<{b'(-> a f | a)-.}\\{d,4 d8 | d-.}>> r r4 r r | r8 << {a' a(-> f)-. a(-> b)-. a(-> f)-. | a(-> f)-.}\\{d d4 d d | d8 d}>> r4 r r | r8 <<{a' a(-> f)-. a(-> b)-. a(-> b)-. | d(-> b a)-.}\\{d,8 d4 d d | d d8-.}>> r r <<{b'(-> a f-> | a)-. b(-> a f-> a)-.}\\{d, d4 | d8-. d4 d8 d-.}>> r <<{b'(-> a | f-> a)-.}\\{d,4 | d8 d}>> r <<{b'8(-> a f-> a)-.}\\{d,4 d8[ d]-.}>> r | \clef treble a'8([ b d)] <<{f([ a b)] d([ f | a)] b([ d f)] a4--}\\{a,,,8([ b d)] f([ a | b)] d([ f a)] a4--}>> r %%EXPOSITION -- [trans.] THEME 3 \clef "G^8" 8-^ | -^ -^ -^ -^ -^ -^ -^ | #(set-octavation 1) -^ | -^ -^ -^ -^ -^ -^ -^ | -^ | d(-^ b-^ a-^ b-^ a-^ f-^ a)-^ | b([ a f)] #(set-octavation 0) \clef treble d([ b a)] f([ d | b)] a([-> f-> d)]-> \clef bass b8([ a f)] %%EXPOSITION -- [2nd group] THEME 4 \repeat unfold 24 {b8([ a f)]} | a8 \clef treble f'[(-> | a b)] d[(-> f a)] b[(-> d | f)] #(set-octavation 1) a([-> b d] 4) #(set-octavation 0) r %%EXPOSITION -- [2nd group] THEME 5 \clef "G^8"r r | r8 f( d b d f b, d) | r4 r | r8 #(set-octavation 1) f( b d f d b d) | r4 r | r8 f( d b d f b, d | f, b d, f #(set-octavation 0) \clef treble b, d f, b | d, f b, d f, b d, f) | r4 f r4 f | r8 b,( d f b)-> b,([ d b')] | r4 f r f | r8 d( f b d)-> d,([ b' d)] | r4 r | r8 f'( d b d f) b,[( d | f)] b,[( d f)] b,[( d f)] b,[( | d f)] b,[( d f)] b,[( d f)] | r ( r r r #(set-octavation -1) | r r 2) #(set-octavation 0) | %%REPEAT EXPOSITION -- [1st group] THEME 1 r4 a'-> b-> d,-> | f2-> r | r4 a-> b-> d,-> | f2-> r | r4 a-> b-> d,-> | f-> a-> b-> d, -> | f-> a-> b-> d, -> | f-> a-> b-> d, -> | f-> a-> b-> d, -> | %%DEVELOPMENT -- [intro] THEME 6 [th1] r4 f-> a-> b-> | d2-> r | r4 f-> b-> d-> | f2 r | r4 f-> b,-> d-> | f,2 r | r4 d f b | f2 r | r4 f d b | d2 r | r4 b d f | d2 r | r4 d b f | b2 r | r4 f b d | b2 r | r4 b d f | b | \breathe | | \breathe | | \breathe | | \breathe | | \breathe | \setTextCresc \< \repeat unfold 6 { } \! | %%DEVELOPMENT -- [body & trans.] THEME 7 [th4] r4 b8( b'-.) d,( d'-.) f,( f'-.) | 4~ 8 ( -. -. 4~ | 8) -. -. ->( -.) ->( ->) | 4->~ 8 ( -. -. 4->~ | 8) -. -. ->( -.) ->( -.) | #(set-octavation -1) 4->~ 8 ( -. -. #(set-octavation 0) 4~ | 8) ( ) -. -. -. -. -. | -. -. -. -. \clef "G^8" -. -. -. -. | \repeat unfold 8 {[ ]} | \repeat unfold 8 {} | %%RECAPITULATION [1st group] THEME 8 [th2] \clef bass R1 | r8 << {a,,, a->( f)-. a(-> b)-. a(-> f)-. | a-.}\\{d, d4 d d | d8-.}>> r8 \clef treble a'16 b d f a b d f #(set-octavation 1) a b d f | a8-. #(set-octavation 0) \clef bass << {a,,, a(-> f)-. a(-> b)-. a(-> b)-. | d(-> b a)-.}\\{d, d4 d d | d d8-.}>> r8 r \clef treble #(set-octavation 1) b''''16 d, a' d, f d | a' d, b' d, a' d, f d a'8 r b16 d, a' d, f d a'8 r b16 d, a' d, f d d' d, b' d, | a'8( f d b) #(set-octavation 0) f( d b d,) | %%RECAPITULATION [1st group (trans.)] THEME 9 [th3] 8-> | -> -> -> -> -> -> -> | -> | -> #(set-octavation 1) -> -> -> -> -> -> | -> | d-> a-> f-> #(set-octavation 0) d'( a f d | a f d f a b d b) | %%RECAPITULATION -- [trans.] THEME 10 [th5] r4 r | r8 a( f d f a d, f) | r4 r | r8 #(set-octavation 1) a( d f a f d f) | r4 r | r8 a( f d f a d, f | a, d f, a #(set-octavation 0) d, f a, d | f, a d, f #(set-octavation -1) a, d f, a)| r4 r | r8 d( f a d->) d,([ f d')] | r4 r | r8 f( a d f->) f,([ d' f]) #(set-octavation 0) | r4 r | r8 a'( f d f a) \repeat unfold 6 {d,([ f a])} %%CODA -- [2nd group] THEME 11 [th2&7] r8 4-. -. r8 | 4-. -. a'16( b d f) (a b d f) | r8 4-. -. r8 | 4-. -. \clef "G^8" r16[ d''( b' d,] a' d, f d | a'8)-. -> -> -> -> | -> | -> -> -> ->| -> | r -> -> -> -> | -> | -> -> -> -> | -> | #(set-octavation 1) -> \repeat unfold 11 {} 4---> #(set-octavation 0) r | } lh = \notes \relative c' { #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end * * * *) 1 4 'Staff) %%EXPOSITION -- [1st group] INTRODUCTION (THEME 1) r4_\markup {\bold senza \musicglyph #"pedal-Ped"\musicglyph #"pedal-."} a-> b-> d,-> | f2-> r | r4 a-> b-> d,-> | f2-> r | r4 a-> b-> d,-> | f2 a4-> b-> | d,-> f-> a-> b-> | d,-> f-> a-> b-> | d,-> f-> a-> b-> | d,-> f-> a-> b-> | d,-> f-> a-> b-> | d,-> f-^ r2 | r\sustainDown #(set-octavation -1) ( | | 1)\sustainUp #(set-octavation 0) | R1| r2 f'( | d b' | a1) | R1 | %%EXPOSITION -- [1st group] THEME 2 \repeat unfold 12 {8->( -.) 8->( -.) 8->( -.) 8->( -.)} | 8->( -.) 8->( -.) 8->( -.) a([ b | d)] <<{f([ a b)] a4--}\\{a,8([ b d)] a4--}>> r | %%EXPOSITION -- [1st group] THEME 3 \repeat unfold 28{8 } \sustainDown (->[ -> )->]\sustainUp b'([ a f)] b([ | a f)] b([ a f)] b([ a f)] | %%EXPOSITION -- [trans.] THEME 4 #(set-octavation -1) 4(-- -- -- ~-> | 8) (-> -. -. 4~-> 8) \(-> | -. -. \)(-> )-. (-> )-. 4~-> | 8 (-> -. -. 4~-> 8) \(-> | -. -. \)(-> )-. (-> )-. 4~-> | 8 -> -. -. 4~-> 8 -> | -. -. -> -. -. -. 4~-> | 8 -> -> -> -> -. -. -. #(set-octavation 0) | -> \repeat unfold 8 {8}| a(->[ b d] 4)-> r | %%EXPOSITION -- [2nd group] THEME 5 2\sustainDown \repeat unfold 30 {2} \sustainUp | 4( #(set-octavation -1) | 2) #(set-octavation 0) %%REPEAT EXPOSITION -- [1st group] THEME 1 r4 a'''-> b-> d,-> | f2-> r | r4 a-> b-> d,-> | f2-> r | r4 a-> b-> d,-> | f2-> a4-> b-> | d,-> f-> a-> b-> | d,-> f-> a-> b-> | d,-> f-> a-> b-> | %%DEVELOPMENT -- [intro] THEME 6 [th1] r4 f(-> a-> b-> | d2)-> r | r4 f(-> b-> d-> | f2) r | r4 f(-> b,-> d-> | f,2) \sustainDown | <<{\voiceOne r4 d'( f b | f2) s | r4 f( d b | d2) s | r4 b( d f | d2) s | r4 d( b f | b2) s | r4 f( b d | b2) s |}\\{\voiceTwo \repeat unfold 5 {2 s2 s2 }}>> | <<{r4 b( d f | b)}\\{2 s s4}>> r4 2 | \repeat unfold 5 {2 r r } | \repeat unfold 6 {2} %%DEVELOPMENT -- [body & trans.] THEME 7 [th4] \clef "F_8" 8-.->\sustainUp r r4 r r | r8 ( 4-.) -. r8 ( | 4-.) -. r2 | r8 ( 4-.) -. r8 ( | 4-.) -. r2 | r8 ( 4-.) -. r8 ( | 4-.) -. r8 8( 4-.) | -. r8 ( 4-.) < f b f'> | r8 ( 4-.) -. r8 ( | 4--) 8-.[]\breathe ( 4--) -. | r8 ( 4--) 8-.[]\breathe ( 4--) | 8-.[]\breathe ( 4--) 8->[ ]| [ ] [ ] %%RECAPITULATION -- [1st group] THEME 8 [th2] \clef bass \repeat unfold 28 {8->( -.)} | ->( -.) ->( -.) | %%RECAPITULATION -- [1st group (trans.)] THEME 9 [th3] \clef "F_8" \repeat unfold 16 {} | \repeat unfold 11 {} | \repeat unfold 19 {} | %%RECAPITULATION -- [trans.] THEME 10 [th5] 2\sustainDown \repeat unfold 30 {} | 8 [( )]\sustainUp | %%CODA -- [2nd group] THEME 11 [th2&7] \clef bass \repeat unfold 32 {8->( -.)} \repeat unfold 16 {b16 f d f} #(set-octavation -1) \repeat unfold 6 {d b f b} 4---> #(set-octavation 0) r | } %%% PARTITUUR %%% \score { \context PianoStaff << \set PianoStaff.instrument = "Piano " \set PianoStaff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic grand" \context Staff = upper << \clef treble \global \ksr \rh >> \context Staff = lower << \clef bass \ksl \lh >> >> \paper { } \midi { \tempo 4 = 126 } } %%% END OF THE SCORE %%% Any comment on this strange situation is very welcome! Kind regards, Thorkil From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jul 05 13:50:16 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BhXbc-0004KK-1p for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 13:50:16 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BhXbZ-0004It-J3 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 13:50:13 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BhXbX-0004HP-Nx for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 13:50:12 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BhXbX-0004Gq-Hd for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 13:50:11 -0400 Received: from [213.51.128.197] (helo=smtpq2.home.nl) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BhXZQ-0000Yb-5Y for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 13:48:00 -0400 Received: from [213.51.128.136] (port=55784 helo=smtp5.home.nl) by smtpq2.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BhXZP-0002VG-M1 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 19:47:59 +0200 Received: from cc264379-a.groni1.gr.home.nl ([217.121.214.156]:1451 helo=cc264379-a.home.nl) by smtp5.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BhXZM-0005HU-ED for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 19:47:56 +0200 Message-Id: <6.0.2.0.2.20040705194507.032107c0@mail> X-Sender: wolvendans@mail X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.2.0 Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 19:47:04 +0200 To: Lilypond Mailinglist From: Thorkil Wolvendans Subject: Problem with \f at the beginning of a score [updated] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Neem contact op met support@home.nl voor meer informatie X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 17:50:14 -0000 (to compile the score, please use this file, since the previous email doesn't contain the \f symbol which causes problems...stupid me!) Hi everyone! I'm staring at my source-file for 2 hours now, and can't find the result to the problem: the forte symbol refuses to appear at the beginning of the score. For some odd reason, the symbol shows up at the next bar, when I want it to show up in the first. Now, this only happens in the first bar, all other bars react as normal. Is this some kind of bug, or do I just overlook something? This is the score: %%% BEGIN OF THE SCORE %%% \paper {} \version "2.2.2" \header { } %%% AANWIJZINGEN %%% global = \notes { \time 4/4 s1^""^""^\markup{\bold "Allegro con spirito ma non troppo"} s1*11\break s1^""^\markup{\bold "Rubato misterioso"} s1*7 \repeat volta 2 { s1^\markup {\italic attacca}^\markup {\bold "A tempo"} s1*13\bar "||" s1^""^""^""^""^""^""^\markup{\italic staccatissimo} s1*5 s1^""^""^""^\markup{\italic legato} s1*2\bar"||" s1^""^""^""^""^\markup {\italic bruscamente} s1*9\bar"||" s1^""^""^""^""^\markup {\italic amabile} s1*15 s1^""^""^\markup {\italic "con forza"} s1\bar"||"} \alternative {{s1*9^""^""^\markup {\italic stringendo}\bar ":|:"} {s1^""^""^\markup {\italic "con allegrezza"} }} s1*5 s1^\markup {\italic "misterioso, bisbigliando"} s1*24\bar"||" s1^""^""^""^\markup {\italic bruscamente} s1*12\bar"||" s1^""^\markup {\italic attacca} s1*7\bar "||" s1^""^""^\markup {\italic staccato} s1*6\bar "||" s1^""^""^""^\markup {\italic "maestoso e brilliante ma non ritardando"} s1*15\bar "||" s1^""^\markup {\italic "bruscamente con spirito"} s1*13\bar ":|" } ksr = \notes { \set Staff.explicitKeySignatureVisibility = #end-of-line-invisible \set Staff.printKeyCancellation = ##f \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((0 . 5) . 2)) s1*21 \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((-2 . 5) . 2)) s1*14\break \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((1 . 5) . 2)) s1*4\break \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((2 . 5) . 2)) s1*4 \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((-2 . 5) . 2)) \break s1*3\break s1*3\break s1*4\break \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((1 . 5) . 2)) s1*6 \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((2 . 5) . 2)) s1*5 \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((0 . 5) . 2)) s1*51\break s1*4 \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((1 . 5) . 2)) s1*4\break s1*4 \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((1 . 5) . 2)) s1*14 \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((0 . 5) . 2)) s1*19\break \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((1 . 5) . 2)) s1*4\break s1*3 \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((2 . 5) . 2)) } ksl = \notes { \set Staff.explicitKeySignatureVisibility = #end-of-line-invisible \set Staff.printKeyCancellation = ##f \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((-2 . 5) . 2)) s1*43 \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((-3 . 5) . 2)) s1*10 \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((-2 . 5) . 2)) s1*62 \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((-3 . 5) . 2)) s1*12 \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((-2 . 5) . 2)) s1*9 \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((-3 . 5) . 2)) s1*20 \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((-2 . 5) . 2)) s1*11 \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((-3 . 5) . 2)) } %%% NOTEN %%% rh = \notes \relative c'' { #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end * * * *) 1 4 'Staff) %%EXPOSITION -- [1st group] INTRODUCTION (THEME 1) r4 a-> b-> d,-> | f2-> r | r4 a-> b-> d,-> | f2-> r | r4 a-> b-> d,-> | f-> a-> b-> d,-> | f-> a-> b-> d,-> | f-> a-> b-> d,-> | f-> a-> b-> d,-> | f-> a-> b-> d,-> | f-> a-> b-> d,-> | f2-^ r | R1*8 | %%EXPOSITION -- [1st group] THEME 2 \clef bass R1 | r8 << {a, a->( f)-. a(-> b)-. a(-> f)-. | a-.}\\{d, d4 d d | d8-.}>> r8 r4 r r | r8 << {a' a(-> f)-. a(-> b)-. a(-> b)-. | d(-> b a)-.}\\{d, d4 d d | d d8-.}>> r8 r <<{b'(-> a f | a)-.}\\{d,4 d8 | d-.}>> r r4 r r | r8 << {a' a(-> f)-. a(-> b)-. a(-> f)-. | a(-> f)-.}\\{d d4 d d | d8 d}>> r4 r r | r8 <<{a' a(-> f)-. a(-> b)-. a(-> b)-. | d(-> b a)-.}\\{d,8 d4 d d | d d8-.}>> r r <<{b'(-> a f-> | a)-. b(-> a f-> a)-.}\\{d, d4 | d8-. d4 d8 d-.}>> r <<{b'(-> a | f-> a)-.}\\{d,4 | d8 d}>> r <<{b'8(-> a f-> a)-.}\\{d,4 d8[ d]-.}>> r | \clef treble a'8([ b d)] <<{f([ a b)] d([ f | a)] b([ d f)] a4--}\\{a,,,8([ b d)] f([ a | b)] d([ f a)] a4--}>> r %%EXPOSITION -- [trans.] THEME 3 \clef "G^8" 8-^ | -^ -^ -^ -^ -^ -^ -^ | #(set-octavation 1) -^ | -^ -^ -^ -^ -^ -^ -^ | -^ | d(-^ b-^ a-^ b-^ a-^ f-^ a)-^ | b([ a f)] #(set-octavation 0) \clef treble d([ b a)] f([ d | b)] a([-> f-> d)]-> \clef bass b8([ a f)] %%EXPOSITION -- [2nd group] THEME 4 \repeat unfold 24 {b8([ a f)]} | a8 \clef treble f'[(-> | a b)] d[(-> f a)] b[(-> d | f)] #(set-octavation 1) a([-> b d] 4) #(set-octavation 0) r %%EXPOSITION -- [2nd group] THEME 5 \clef "G^8"r r | r8 f( d b d f b, d) | r4 r | r8 #(set-octavation 1) f( b d f d b d) | r4 r | r8 f( d b d f b, d | f, b d, f #(set-octavation 0) \clef treble b, d f, b | d, f b, d f, b d, f) | r4 f r4 f | r8 b,( d f b)-> b,([ d b')] | r4 f r f | r8 d( f b d)-> d,([ b' d)] | r4 r | r8 f'( d b d f) b,[( d | f)] b,[( d f)] b,[( d f)] b,[( | d f)] b,[( d f)] b,[( d f)] | r ( r r r #(set-octavation -1) | r r 2) #(set-octavation 0) | %%REPEAT EXPOSITION -- [1st group] THEME 1 r4 a'-> b-> d,-> | f2-> r | r4 a-> b-> d,-> | f2-> r | r4 a-> b-> d,-> | f-> a-> b-> d, -> | f-> a-> b-> d, -> | f-> a-> b-> d, -> | f-> a-> b-> d, -> | %%DEVELOPMENT -- [intro] THEME 6 [th1] r4 f-> a-> b-> | d2-> r | r4 f-> b-> d-> | f2 r | r4 f-> b,-> d-> | f,2 r | r4 d f b | f2 r | r4 f d b | d2 r | r4 b d f | d2 r | r4 d b f | b2 r | r4 f b d | b2 r | r4 b d f | b | \breathe | | \breathe | | \breathe | | \breathe | | \breathe | \setTextCresc \< \repeat unfold 6 { } \! | %%DEVELOPMENT -- [body & trans.] THEME 7 [th4] r4 b8( b'-.) d,( d'-.) f,( f'-.) | 4~ 8 ( -. -. 4~ | 8) -. -. ->( -.) ->( ->) | 4->~ 8 ( -. -. 4->~ | 8) -. -. ->( -.) ->( -.) | #(set-octavation -1) 4->~ 8 ( -. -. #(set-octavation 0) 4~ | 8) ( ) -. -. -. -. -. | -. -. -. -. \clef "G^8" -. -. -. -. | \repeat unfold 8 {[ ]} | \repeat unfold 8 {} | %%RECAPITULATION [1st group] THEME 8 [th2] \clef bass R1 | r8 << {a,,, a->( f)-. a(-> b)-. a(-> f)-. | a-.}\\{d, d4 d d | d8-.}>> r8 \clef treble a'16 b d f a b d f #(set-octavation 1) a b d f | a8-. #(set-octavation 0) \clef bass << {a,,, a(-> f)-. a(-> b)-. a(-> b)-. | d(-> b a)-.}\\{d, d4 d d | d d8-.}>> r8 r \clef treble #(set-octavation 1) b''''16 d, a' d, f d | a' d, b' d, a' d, f d a'8 r b16 d, a' d, f d a'8 r b16 d, a' d, f d d' d, b' d, | a'8( f d b) #(set-octavation 0) f( d b d,) | %%RECAPITULATION [1st group (trans.)] THEME 9 [th3] 8-> | -> -> -> -> -> -> -> | -> | -> #(set-octavation 1) -> -> -> -> -> -> | -> | d-> a-> f-> #(set-octavation 0) d'( a f d | a f d f a b d b) | %%RECAPITULATION -- [trans.] THEME 10 [th5] r4 r | r8 a( f d f a d, f) | r4 r | r8 #(set-octavation 1) a( d f a f d f) | r4 r | r8 a( f d f a d, f | a, d f, a #(set-octavation 0) d, f a, d | f, a d, f #(set-octavation -1) a, d f, a)| r4 r | r8 d( f a d->) d,([ f d')] | r4 r | r8 f( a d f->) f,([ d' f]) #(set-octavation 0) | r4 r | r8 a'( f d f a) \repeat unfold 6 {d,([ f a])} %%CODA -- [2nd group] THEME 11 [th2&7] r8 4-. -. r8 | 4-. -. a'16( b d f) (a b d f) | r8 4-. -. r8 | 4-. -. \clef "G^8" r16[ d''( b' d,] a' d, f d | a'8)-. -> -> -> -> | -> | -> -> -> ->| -> | r -> -> -> -> | -> | -> -> -> -> | -> | #(set-octavation 1) -> \repeat unfold 11 {} 4---> #(set-octavation 0) r | } lh = \notes \relative c' { #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end * * * *) 1 4 'Staff) %%EXPOSITION -- [1st group] INTRODUCTION (THEME 1) r4_\markup {\bold senza \musicglyph #"pedal-Ped"\musicglyph #"pedal-."} a-> b-> d,-> | f2-> r | r4 a-> b-> d,-> | f2-> r | r4 a-> b-> d,-> | f2 a4-> b-> | d,-> f-> a-> b-> | d,-> f-> a-> b-> | d,-> f-> a-> b-> | d,-> f-> a-> b-> | d,-> f-> a-> b-> | d,-> f-^ r2 | r\sustainDown #(set-octavation -1) ( | | 1)\sustainUp #(set-octavation 0) | R1| r2 f'( | d b' | a1) | R1 | %%EXPOSITION -- [1st group] THEME 2 \repeat unfold 12 {8->( -.) 8->( -.) 8->( -.) 8->( -.)} | 8->( -.) 8->( -.) 8->( -.) a([ b | d)] <<{f([ a b)] a4--}\\{a,8([ b d)] a4--}>> r | %%EXPOSITION -- [1st group] THEME 3 \repeat unfold 28{8 } \sustainDown (->[ -> )->]\sustainUp b'([ a f)] b([ | a f)] b([ a f)] b([ a f)] | %%EXPOSITION -- [trans.] THEME 4 #(set-octavation -1) 4(-- -- -- ~-> | 8) (-> -. -. 4~-> 8) \(-> | -. -. \)(-> )-. (-> )-. 4~-> | 8 (-> -. -. 4~-> 8) \(-> | -. -. \)(-> )-. (-> )-. 4~-> | 8 -> -. -. 4~-> 8 -> | -. -. -> -. -. -. 4~-> | 8 -> -> -> -> -. -. -. #(set-octavation 0) | -> \repeat unfold 8 {8}| a(->[ b d] 4)-> r | %%EXPOSITION -- [2nd group] THEME 5 2\sustainDown \repeat unfold 30 {2} \sustainUp | 4( #(set-octavation -1) | 2) #(set-octavation 0) %%REPEAT EXPOSITION -- [1st group] THEME 1 r4 a'''-> b-> d,-> | f2-> r | r4 a-> b-> d,-> | f2-> r | r4 a-> b-> d,-> | f2-> a4-> b-> | d,-> f-> a-> b-> | d,-> f-> a-> b-> | d,-> f-> a-> b-> | %%DEVELOPMENT -- [intro] THEME 6 [th1] r4 f(-> a-> b-> | d2)-> r | r4 f(-> b-> d-> | f2) r | r4 f(-> b,-> d-> | f,2) \sustainDown | <<{\voiceOne r4 d'( f b | f2) s | r4 f( d b | d2) s | r4 b( d f | d2) s | r4 d( b f | b2) s | r4 f( b d | b2) s |}\\{\voiceTwo \repeat unfold 5 {2 s2 s2 }}>> | <<{r4 b( d f | b)}\\{2 s s4}>> r4 2 | \repeat unfold 5 {2 r r } | \repeat unfold 6 {2} %%DEVELOPMENT -- [body & trans.] THEME 7 [th4] \clef "F_8" 8-.->\sustainUp r r4 r r | r8 ( 4-.) -. r8 ( | 4-.) -. r2 | r8 ( 4-.) -. r8 ( | 4-.) -. r2 | r8 ( 4-.) -. r8 ( | 4-.) -. r8 8( 4-.) | -. r8 ( 4-.) < f b f'> | r8 ( 4-.) -. r8 ( | 4--) 8-.[]\breathe ( 4--) -. | r8 ( 4--) 8-.[]\breathe ( 4--) | 8-.[]\breathe ( 4--) 8->[ ]| [ ] [ ] %%RECAPITULATION -- [1st group] THEME 8 [th2] \clef bass \repeat unfold 28 {8->( -.)} | ->( -.) ->( -.) | %%RECAPITULATION -- [1st group (trans.)] THEME 9 [th3] \clef "F_8" \repeat unfold 16 {} | \repeat unfold 11 {} | \repeat unfold 19 {} | %%RECAPITULATION -- [trans.] THEME 10 [th5] 2\sustainDown \repeat unfold 30 {} | 8 [( )]\sustainUp | %%CODA -- [2nd group] THEME 11 [th2&7] \clef bass \repeat unfold 32 {8->( -.)} \repeat unfold 16 {b16 f d f} #(set-octavation -1) \repeat unfold 6 {d b f b} 4---> #(set-octavation 0) r | } %%% PARTITUUR %%% \score { \context PianoStaff << \set PianoStaff.instrument = "Piano " \set PianoStaff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic grand" \context Staff = upper << \clef treble \global \ksr \rh >> \context Staff = lower << \clef bass \ksl \lh >> >> \paper { } \midi { \tempo 4 = 126 } } %%% END OF THE SCORE %%% Any comment on this strange situation is very welcome! 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I'm sorry: THIS is the correct file -- I'm too tired I guess! ) (to compile the score, please use this file, since the previous email doesn't contain the \f symbol which causes problems...stupid me!) Hi everyone! I'm staring at my source-file for 2 hours now, and can't find the result to the problem: the forte symbol refuses to appear at the beginning of the score. For some odd reason, the symbol shows up at the next bar, when I want it to show up in the first. Now, this only happens in the first bar, all other bars react as normal. Is this some kind of bug, or do I just overlook something? This is the score: %%% BEGIN OF THE SCORE %%% \paper {} \version "2.2.2" \header { } %%% AANWIJZINGEN %%% global = \notes { \time 4/4 s1^""^""^\markup{\bold "Allegro con spirito ma non troppo"} s1*11\break s1^""^\markup{\bold "Rubato misterioso"} s1*7 \repeat volta 2 { s1^\markup {\italic attacca}^\markup {\bold "A tempo"} s1*13\bar "||" s1^""^""^""^""^""^""^\markup{\italic staccatissimo} s1*5 s1^""^""^""^\markup{\italic legato} s1*2\bar"||" s1^""^""^""^""^\markup {\italic bruscamente} s1*9\bar"||" s1^""^""^""^""^\markup {\italic amabile} s1*15 s1^""^""^\markup {\italic "con forza"} s1\bar"||"} \alternative {{s1*9^""^""^\markup {\italic stringendo}\bar ":|:"} {s1^""^""^\markup {\italic "con allegrezza"} }} s1*5 s1^\markup {\italic "misterioso, bisbigliando"} s1*24\bar"||" s1^""^""^""^\markup {\italic bruscamente} s1*12\bar"||" s1^""^\markup {\italic attacca} s1*7\bar "||" s1^""^""^\markup {\italic staccato} s1*6\bar "||" s1^""^""^""^\markup {\italic "maestoso e brilliante ma non ritardando"} s1*15\bar "||" s1^""^\markup {\italic "bruscamente con spirito"} s1*13\bar ":|" } ksr = \notes { \set Staff.explicitKeySignatureVisibility = #end-of-line-invisible \set Staff.printKeyCancellation = ##f \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((0 . 5) . 2)) s1*21 \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((-2 . 5) . 2)) s1*14\break \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((1 . 5) . 2)) s1*4\break \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((2 . 5) . 2)) s1*4 \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((-2 . 5) . 2)) \break s1*3\break s1*3\break s1*4\break \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((1 . 5) . 2)) s1*6 \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((2 . 5) . 2)) s1*5 \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((0 . 5) . 2)) s1*51\break s1*4 \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((1 . 5) . 2)) s1*4\break s1*4 \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((1 . 5) . 2)) s1*14 \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((0 . 5) . 2)) s1*19\break \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((1 . 5) . 2)) s1*4\break s1*3 \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((2 . 5) . 2)) } ksl = \notes { \set Staff.explicitKeySignatureVisibility = #end-of-line-invisible \set Staff.printKeyCancellation = ##f \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((-2 . 5) . 2)) s1*43 \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((-3 . 5) . 2)) s1*10 \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((-2 . 5) . 2)) s1*62 \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((-3 . 5) . 2)) s1*12 \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((-2 . 5) . 2)) s1*9 \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((-3 . 5) . 2)) s1*20 \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((-2 . 5) . 2)) s1*11 \set Staff.keySignature = #'(((-3 . 5) . 2)) } %%% NOTEN %%% rh = \notes \relative c'' { #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end * * * *) 1 4 'Staff) %%EXPOSITION -- [1st group] INTRODUCTION (THEME 1) r4\f a-> b-> d,-> | f2-> r | r4 a-> b-> d,-> | f2-> r | r4 a-> b-> d,-> | f-> a-> b-> d,-> | f-> a-> b-> d,-> | f-> a-> b-> d,-> | f-> a-> b-> d,-> | f-> a-> b-> d,-> | f-> a-> b-> d,-> | f2-^ r | R1*8 | %%EXPOSITION -- [1st group] THEME 2 \clef bass R1 | r8 << {a, a->( f)-. a(-> b)-. a(-> f)-. | a-.}\\{d, d4 d d | d8-.}>> r8 r4 r r | r8 << {a' a(-> f)-. a(-> b)-. a(-> b)-. | d(-> b a)-.}\\{d, d4 d d | d d8-.}>> r8 r <<{b'(-> a f | a)-.}\\{d,4 d8 | d-.}>> r r4 r r | r8 << {a' a(-> f)-. a(-> b)-. a(-> f)-. | a(-> f)-.}\\{d d4 d d | d8 d}>> r4 r r | r8 <<{a' a(-> f)-. a(-> b)-. a(-> b)-. | d(-> b a)-.}\\{d,8 d4 d d | d d8-.}>> r r <<{b'(-> a f-> | a)-. b(-> a f-> a)-.}\\{d, d4 | d8-. d4 d8 d-.}>> r <<{b'(-> a | f-> a)-.}\\{d,4 | d8 d}>> r <<{b'8(-> a f-> a)-.}\\{d,4 d8[ d]-.}>> r | \clef treble a'8([ b d)] <<{f([ a b)] d([ f | a)] b([ d f)] a4--}\\{a,,,8([ b d)] f([ a | b)] d([ f a)] a4--}>> r %%EXPOSITION -- [trans.] THEME 3 \clef "G^8" 8-^ | -^ -^ -^ -^ -^ -^ -^ | #(set-octavation 1) -^ | -^ -^ -^ -^ -^ -^ -^ | -^ | d(-^ b-^ a-^ b-^ a-^ f-^ a)-^ | b([ a f)] #(set-octavation 0) \clef treble d([ b a)] f([ d | b)] a([-> f-> d)]-> \clef bass b8([ a f)] %%EXPOSITION -- [2nd group] THEME 4 \repeat unfold 24 {b8([ a f)]} | a8 \clef treble f'[(-> | a b)] d[(-> f a)] b[(-> d | f)] #(set-octavation 1) a([-> b d] 4) #(set-octavation 0) r %%EXPOSITION -- [2nd group] THEME 5 \clef "G^8"r r | r8 f( d b d f b, d) | r4 r | r8 #(set-octavation 1) f( b d f d b d) | r4 r | r8 f( d b d f b, d | f, b d, f #(set-octavation 0) \clef treble b, d f, b | d, f b, d f, b d, f) | r4 f r4 f | r8 b,( d f b)-> b,([ d b')] | r4 f r f | r8 d( f b d)-> d,([ b' d)] | r4 r | r8 f'( d b d f) b,[( d | f)] b,[( d f)] b,[( d f)] b,[( | d f)] b,[( d f)] b,[( d f)] | r ( r r r #(set-octavation -1) | r r 2) #(set-octavation 0) | %%REPEAT EXPOSITION -- [1st group] THEME 1 r4 a'-> b-> d,-> | f2-> r | r4 a-> b-> d,-> | f2-> r | r4 a-> b-> d,-> | f-> a-> b-> d, -> | f-> a-> b-> d, -> | f-> a-> b-> d, -> | f-> a-> b-> d, -> | %%DEVELOPMENT -- [intro] THEME 6 [th1] r4 f-> a-> b-> | d2-> r | r4 f-> b-> d-> | f2 r | r4 f-> b,-> d-> | f,2 r | r4 d f b | f2 r | r4 f d b | d2 r | r4 b d f | d2 r | r4 d b f | b2 r | r4 f b d | b2 r | r4 b d f | b | \breathe | | \breathe | | \breathe | | \breathe | | \breathe | \setTextCresc \< \repeat unfold 6 { } \! | %%DEVELOPMENT -- [body & trans.] THEME 7 [th4] r4 b8( b'-.) d,( d'-.) f,( f'-.) | 4~ 8 ( -. -. 4~ | 8) -. -. ->( -.) ->( ->) | 4->~ 8 ( -. -. 4->~ | 8) -. -. ->( -.) ->( -.) | #(set-octavation -1) 4->~ 8 ( -. -. #(set-octavation 0) 4~ | 8) ( ) -. -. -. -. -. | -. -. -. -. \clef "G^8" -. -. -. -. | \repeat unfold 8 {[ ]} | \repeat unfold 8 {} | %%RECAPITULATION [1st group] THEME 8 [th2] \clef bass R1 | r8 << {a,,, a->( f)-. a(-> b)-. a(-> f)-. | a-.}\\{d, d4 d d | d8-.}>> r8 \clef treble a'16 b d f a b d f #(set-octavation 1) a b d f | a8-. #(set-octavation 0) \clef bass << {a,,, a(-> f)-. a(-> b)-. a(-> b)-. | d(-> b a)-.}\\{d, d4 d d | d d8-.}>> r8 r \clef treble #(set-octavation 1) b''''16 d, a' d, f d | a' d, b' d, a' d, f d a'8 r b16 d, a' d, f d a'8 r b16 d, a' d, f d d' d, b' d, | a'8( f d b) #(set-octavation 0) f( d b d,) | %%RECAPITULATION [1st group (trans.)] THEME 9 [th3] 8-> | -> -> -> -> -> -> -> | -> | -> #(set-octavation 1) -> -> -> -> -> -> | -> | d-> a-> f-> #(set-octavation 0) d'( a f d | a f d f a b d b) | %%RECAPITULATION -- [trans.] THEME 10 [th5] r4 r | r8 a( f d f a d, f) | r4 r | r8 #(set-octavation 1) a( d f a f d f) | r4 r | r8 a( f d f a d, f | a, d f, a #(set-octavation 0) d, f a, d | f, a d, f #(set-octavation -1) a, d f, a)| r4 r | r8 d( f a d->) d,([ f d')] | r4 r | r8 f( a d f->) f,([ d' f]) #(set-octavation 0) | r4 r | r8 a'( f d f a) \repeat unfold 6 {d,([ f a])} %%CODA -- [2nd group] THEME 11 [th2&7] r8 4-. -. r8 | 4-. -. a'16( b d f) (a b d f) | r8 4-. -. r8 | 4-. -. \clef "G^8" r16[ d''( b' d,] a' d, f d | a'8)-. -> -> -> -> | -> | -> -> -> ->| -> | r -> -> -> -> | -> | -> -> -> -> | -> | #(set-octavation 1) -> \repeat unfold 11 {} 4---> #(set-octavation 0) r | } lh = \notes \relative c' { #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end * * * *) 1 4 'Staff) %%EXPOSITION -- [1st group] INTRODUCTION (THEME 1) r4_\markup {\bold senza \musicglyph #"pedal-Ped"\musicglyph #"pedal-."} a-> b-> d,-> | f2-> r | r4 a-> b-> d,-> | f2-> r | r4 a-> b-> d,-> | f2 a4-> b-> | d,-> f-> a-> b-> | d,-> f-> a-> b-> | d,-> f-> a-> b-> | d,-> f-> a-> b-> | d,-> f-> a-> b-> | d,-> f-^ r2 | r\sustainDown #(set-octavation -1) ( | | 1)\sustainUp #(set-octavation 0) | R1| r2 f'( | d b' | a1) | R1 | %%EXPOSITION -- [1st group] THEME 2 \repeat unfold 12 {8->( -.) 8->( -.) 8->( -.) 8->( -.)} | 8->( -.) 8->( -.) 8->( -.) a([ b | d)] <<{f([ a b)] a4--}\\{a,8([ b d)] a4--}>> r | %%EXPOSITION -- [1st group] THEME 3 \repeat unfold 28{8 } \sustainDown (->[ -> )->]\sustainUp b'([ a f)] b([ | a f)] b([ a f)] b([ a f)] | %%EXPOSITION -- [trans.] THEME 4 #(set-octavation -1) 4(-- -- -- ~-> | 8) (-> -. -. 4~-> 8) \(-> | -. -. \)(-> )-. (-> )-. 4~-> | 8 (-> -. -. 4~-> 8) \(-> | -. -. \)(-> )-. (-> )-. 4~-> | 8 -> -. -. 4~-> 8 -> | -. -. -> -. -. -. 4~-> | 8 -> -> -> -> -. -. -. #(set-octavation 0) | -> \repeat unfold 8 {8}| a(->[ b d] 4)-> r | %%EXPOSITION -- [2nd group] THEME 5 2\sustainDown \repeat unfold 30 {2} \sustainUp | 4( #(set-octavation -1) | 2) #(set-octavation 0) %%REPEAT EXPOSITION -- [1st group] THEME 1 r4 a'''-> b-> d,-> | f2-> r | r4 a-> b-> d,-> | f2-> r | r4 a-> b-> d,-> | f2-> a4-> b-> | d,-> f-> a-> b-> | d,-> f-> a-> b-> | d,-> f-> a-> b-> | %%DEVELOPMENT -- [intro] THEME 6 [th1] r4 f(-> a-> b-> | d2)-> r | r4 f(-> b-> d-> | f2) r | r4 f(-> b,-> d-> | f,2) \sustainDown | <<{\voiceOne r4 d'( f b | f2) s | r4 f( d b | d2) s | r4 b( d f | d2) s | r4 d( b f | b2) s | r4 f( b d | b2) s |}\\{\voiceTwo \repeat unfold 5 {2 s2 s2 }}>> | <<{r4 b( d f | b)}\\{2 s s4}>> r4 2 | \repeat unfold 5 {2 r r } | \repeat unfold 6 {2} %%DEVELOPMENT -- [body & trans.] THEME 7 [th4] \clef "F_8" 8-.->\sustainUp r r4 r r | r8 ( 4-.) -. r8 ( | 4-.) -. r2 | r8 ( 4-.) -. r8 ( | 4-.) -. r2 | r8 ( 4-.) -. r8 ( | 4-.) -. r8 8( 4-.) | -. r8 ( 4-.) < f b f'> | r8 ( 4-.) -. r8 ( | 4--) 8-.[]\breathe ( 4--) -. | r8 ( 4--) 8-.[]\breathe ( 4--) | 8-.[]\breathe ( 4--) 8->[ ]| [ ] [ ] %%RECAPITULATION -- [1st group] THEME 8 [th2] \clef bass \repeat unfold 28 {8->( -.)} | ->( -.) ->( -.) | %%RECAPITULATION -- [1st group (trans.)] THEME 9 [th3] \clef "F_8" \repeat unfold 16 {} | \repeat unfold 11 {} | \repeat unfold 19 {} | %%RECAPITULATION -- [trans.] THEME 10 [th5] 2\sustainDown \repeat unfold 30 {} | 8 [( )]\sustainUp | %%CODA -- [2nd group] THEME 11 [th2&7] \clef bass \repeat unfold 32 {8->( -.)} \repeat unfold 16 {b16 f d f} #(set-octavation -1) \repeat unfold 6 {d b f b} 4---> #(set-octavation 0) r | } %%% PARTITUUR %%% \score { \context PianoStaff << \set PianoStaff.instrument = "Piano " \set PianoStaff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic grand" \context Staff = upper << \clef treble \global \ksr \rh >> \context Staff = lower << \clef bass \ksl \lh >> >> \paper { } \midi { \tempo 4 = 126 } } %%% END OF THE SCORE %%% Any comment on this strange situation is very welcome! Kind regards, Thorkil From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jul 05 14:44:40 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BhYSG-0003Rf-Lz for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 14:44:40 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BhYSF-0003R3-Hk for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 14:44:39 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BhYSD-0003Ph-PN for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 14:44:39 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BhYSD-0003Pe-M1 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 14:44:37 -0400 Received: from [194.109.24.13] (helo=smtp-out3.xs4all.nl) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BhYPv-0003Aj-16 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 14:42:15 -0400 Received: from peder.flower (appel.xs4all.nl [80.126.34.178]) by smtp-out3.xs4all.nl (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i65IgE7s037179; Mon, 5 Jul 2004 20:42:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=peder.flower ident=janneke) by peder.flower with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BhYPu-0001o0-TJ; Mon, 05 Jul 2004 20:42:14 +0200 To: Thorkil Wolvendans Subject: Re: Problem with \f at the beginning of a score [updated again] References: <6.0.2.0.2.20040705194742.032136b0@mail> From: Jan Nieuwenhuizen Organization: Jan at Appel Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 20:42:14 +0200 In-Reply-To: <6.0.2.0.2.20040705194742.032136b0@mail> (Thorkil Wolvendans's message of "Mon, 05 Jul 2004 19:49:44 +0200") Message-ID: <87hdsmb8jd.fsf@peder.flower> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Lilypond Mailinglist X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 18:44:39 -0000 Thorkil Wolvendans writes: > I'm staring at my source-file for 2 hours now, and can't find the > result to the problem: the forte symbol refuses to appear at the > beginning of the score. It appears that both texts are linked and centered. I have no idea why that may be, dynamic texts and others are handled by separate engravers. Consider this snippet: foo = \notes \relative c'' { | r4\f a b c | a b c d } global = \notes { s1^""^""^\markup{\bold "Allegro con spirito ma non troppo but a quite long text nonetheless"} } \paper{ raggedright = ##t } \score{ \context Staff = upper << \global \foo >> } -- Jan Nieuwenhuizen | GNU LilyPond - The music typesetter http://www.xs4all.nl/~jantien | http://www.lilypond.org From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jul 06 04:49:55 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BhleE-0007Df-WE for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jul 2004 04:49:55 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BhleD-0007Cy-BG for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jul 2004 04:49:53 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BhleB-0007Br-La for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jul 2004 04:49:53 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BhleB-0007Bk-I5 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jul 2004 04:49:51 -0400 Received: from [213.41.78.204] (helo=smtp-ft5.fr.colt.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bhlc6-0004ID-4W for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jul 2004 04:47:42 -0400 Received: from dell403.seig (access-67.101.rev.fr.colt.net [213.41.101.67]) by smtp-ft5.fr.colt.net with SMTP id i668leV32423 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 10:47:40 +0200 Received: by dell403.seig (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 6 Jul 2004 10:47:37 +0200 Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 10:47:37 +0200 From: Jose To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: slur repeat and alternative Message-ID: <20040706104737.A29904@jose.ac-creteil.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by smtp-ft5.fr.colt.net id i668leV32423 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 08:49:53 -0000 Excuse my poor english (I'm french). With lilypond 2.0 on Linux RH 7.3 , i can't obtain what i want with the following :=20 \score { \notes { \time 4/4 \clef bass \repeat volta2 { c4 d e f( } \alternative { { d2) d} { f) f,} } } \paper { } } I get the warning : /home/jose/lilyfiles/gamme.ly:6:29: AVERTISSEMENT: ne peut rep=E9rer le d= =E9but d'une liaison: \alternative { { d2) d} { f ) f,} What I need is a slur between the f and d2 in the first volta box (that's OK) and a "slur end on the first f in the second volta box. Thanks. From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jul 06 05:29:22 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BhmGQ-0001XS-7X for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jul 2004 05:29:22 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BhmGO-0001W9-3A for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jul 2004 05:29:20 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BhmGM-0001VL-Tg for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jul 2004 05:29:19 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BhmGM-0001Uv-PP for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jul 2004 05:29:18 -0400 Received: from [130.237.43.24] (helo=iris.s3.kth.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BhmDu-0002el-1e for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jul 2004 05:26:46 -0400 Received: from localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.md.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FE1461AE0; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 11:26:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se ([130.237.43.24]) by localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id 15595-03; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 11:26:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2553C61B24; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 11:26:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [130.237.50.49] (drongo.s3.kth.se [130.237.50.49]) by iris.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2E2461AE0; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 11:26:42 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <40EA7053.3000808@s3.kth.se> Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 11:26:43 +0200 From: Mats Bengtsson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: proper placing of chordnames re: alternative ending brackets References: <40E94336.1030603@s3.kth.se> In-Reply-To: <40E94336.1030603@s3.kth.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 'John Sellers' X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 09:29:20 -0000 It turns out, that another solution to the same problem was already included in the Tips and Tricks document, see http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.2/input/test/out-www/collated-files.html#volta-chord-names.ly /Mats Mats Bengtsson wrote: > I have added the following example to the Tips and Tricks document > (both for 2.2.x and the development series). > > \version "2.2.0" > \header { > > texidoc = "@cindex ChordNames repeats > To make the chord names appear below the brackets of the alternative > endings of a repeat, move the Volta_engraver to the Score level. > " } > > \score{ > << > \new ChordNames \chords{ > \repeat volta 2 { > f1:maj f:7} \alternative{{bes:7}{c:maj}} > } > \new Staff \notes \relative c'{ > \repeat volta 2 { c4 d e f g a b c } \alternative{{g2 e }{c1}} > } > >> > \paper { > \context { > \ScoreContext > \consists "Volta_engraver" > \override VoltaBracket #'minimum-space = #0 > } > \context { > \StaffContext > \remove "Volta_engraver" > } > } > } > > > /Mats > > Bertalan Fodor wrote: > >> Hello, >> you could use this instead: >> >> ... >> \context Staff = one \with { \remove Volta_engraver } \melody >> ... >> >> \paper { >> \context { >> \ScoreContext \consists "Volta_engraver" >> \override VoltaBracket #'minimum-space = #0 >> } >> } >> >> Bert >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> lilypond-user mailing list >> lilypond-user@gnu.org >> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > > -- ============================================= Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: mats.bengtsson@s3.kth.se WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe ============================================= From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jul 06 06:42:39 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BhnPL-00057s-IU for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jul 2004 06:42:39 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BhnPJ-00056D-8U for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jul 2004 06:42:37 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BhnPH-00054u-EX for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jul 2004 06:42:36 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BhnPH-000540-6K for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jul 2004 06:42:35 -0400 Received: from [194.25.134.82] (helo=mailout05.sul.t-online.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BhnN5-0007FD-EQ for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jul 2004 06:40:19 -0400 Received: from fwd05.aul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1BhnN4-00081f-02; Tue, 06 Jul 2004 12:40:18 +0200 Received: from xpert (rAHyOvZUred7l2IYvTPEkSCPpZNVrUX+BTXYe3tLNjMQ+M7Nd6RY8L@[80.143.114.172]) by fwd05.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 1BhnMq-0mM8Ei0; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 12:40:04 +0200 From: t.scharkowski@t-online.de (Thomas Scharkowski) To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 12:40:16 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: lilypond 2.2.3 on Suse 9.1 Message-ID: <40EA9DB0.11038.40CD3E@localhost> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c, DE v4.21c R1) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-Seen: false X-ID: rAHyOvZUred7l2IYvTPEkSCPpZNVrUX+BTXYe3tLNjMQ+M7Nd6RY8L X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 10:42:37 -0000 Hello list, maybe this is more of a linux question, but I dare to ask. I have to admit that I am new to linux, but I thought: Just try it. So I followed the instructions and compiled lilypond-2.2.3 on SuSe 9.1.. Everything seemed to work correctly, great! Typing "lilypond --ver" gives the expected result. But I get an error message when running lilypond on a *ly file: "lily.scm not in loadpath" So I suppose I missed something important? Any help? Or is it just too hard for a newbie? Thanks Thomas From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jul 06 06:54:25 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bhnaj-0002JI-78 for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jul 2004 06:54:25 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bhnaf-0002Hs-VA for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jul 2004 06:54:22 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bhnae-0002HT-5m for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jul 2004 06:54:21 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bhnac-0002HO-KK for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jul 2004 06:54:20 -0400 Received: from [130.237.43.24] (helo=iris.s3.kth.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BhnYU-0000sw-9R for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jul 2004 06:52:06 -0400 Received: from localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.md.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5628F61AD5; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 12:52:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se ([130.237.43.24]) by localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id 18869-09; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 12:52:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1932961AE0; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 12:52:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [130.237.50.49] (drongo.s3.kth.se [130.237.50.49]) by iris.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id A066361AD5; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 12:52:02 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <40EA8453.9060705@s3.kth.se> Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 12:52:03 +0200 From: Mats Bengtsson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jose Subject: Re: slur repeat and alternative References: <20040706104737.A29904@jose.ac-creteil.fr> In-Reply-To: <20040706104737.A29904@jose.ac-creteil.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 10:54:22 -0000 This question has been answered many times on the mailing list (see the archives). There is no direct support for this in LilyPond at the moment, so you have to fake it by drawing the slur in secunda volta from an invisible note. For example: \score { \notes { \time 4/4 \clef bass \repeat volta2 { c4 d e f( } \alternative { { d2) d} { \hideNotes g4( \unHideNotes f2*1/2) f,} } } \paper { } } /Mats Jose wrote: > Excuse my poor english (I'm french). > > With lilypond 2.0 on Linux RH 7.3 , i can't obtain > what i want with the following : > \score { > \notes { > \time 4/4 > \clef bass > \repeat volta2 { c4 d e f( } > \alternative { { d2) d} { f) f,} } > } > \paper { } > } > > I get the warning : > /home/jose/lilyfiles/gamme.ly:6:29: AVERTISSEMENT: ne peut repérer le début d'une liaison: > \alternative { { d2) d} { f > ) f,} > What I need is a slur between the f and d2 in the first volta box > (that's OK) and a "slur end on the first f in the second volta box. > > Thanks. > > > _______________________________________________ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- ============================================= Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: mats.bengtsson@s3.kth.se WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe ============================================= From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jul 06 07:21:15 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bho0g-0001SN-Nk for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jul 2004 07:21:14 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bho0f-0001R6-FI for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jul 2004 07:21:13 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bho0c-0001PH-Kw for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jul 2004 07:21:12 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bho0c-0001Ot-FM for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jul 2004 07:21:10 -0400 Received: from [130.237.43.24] (helo=iris.s3.kth.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BhnyK-0006U0-Lg for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jul 2004 07:18:48 -0400 Received: from localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.md.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6B7361B24; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 13:18:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se ([130.237.43.24]) by localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id 19980-10; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 13:18:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFC9461BD1; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 13:18:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [130.237.50.49] (drongo.s3.kth.se [130.237.50.49]) by iris.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id A291461B24; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 13:18:45 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <40EA8A96.9010101@s3.kth.se> Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 13:18:46 +0200 From: Mats Bengtsson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thomas Scharkowski Subject: Re: lilypond 2.2.3 on Suse 9.1 References: <40EA9DB0.11038.40CD3E@localhost> In-Reply-To: <40EA9DB0.11038.40CD3E@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 11:21:13 -0000 I guess that you basically did ./configure make make install which means that lily.scm should be installed in /usr/local/share/lilypond/2.2.3/scm/lily.scm Also, the command lilypond-bin --help --verbose should say local_lilypond_datadir: `/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.2.3' If you tried to build it using the RPM preparation tools, I know that there has been some problems in the SuSe RPM, at least in earlier version. /Mats Thomas Scharkowski wrote: > Hello list, > > maybe this is more of a linux question, but I dare to ask. > > I have to admit that I am new to linux, but I thought: Just try it. > So I followed the instructions and compiled lilypond-2.2.3 on SuSe > 9.1.. > Everything seemed to work correctly, great! > Typing "lilypond --ver" gives the expected result. > But I get an error message when running lilypond on a *ly file: > "lily.scm not in loadpath" > So I suppose I missed something important? > Any help? Or is it just too hard for a newbie? > > Thanks > Thomas > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- ============================================= Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: mats.bengtsson@s3.kth.se WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe ============================================= From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jul 07 00:20:35 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bi3v8-0000Zb-PB for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 00:20:34 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bi3v6-0000Xw-BU for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 00:20:32 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bi3v2-0000WT-W1 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 00:20:29 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bi3v2-0000WA-To for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 00:20:28 -0400 Received: from [24.93.47.42] (helo=ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bi3sy-00053q-R1 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 00:18:21 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.100] (cs6669234-146.austin.rr.com [66.69.234.146]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id i674IHo7026846 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 23:18:18 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: lilypond-user@gnu.org From: Will Oram Subject: External \notes Block Acting Odd Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 23:18:16 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 04:20:32 -0000 Usually when I work with multiple staves, I keep time sig, key sig, and tempo changes separate from the music. I upgraded to 2.2.4, and I started experimenting with the alternative way of defining instruments. Old: \context Staff = "flauti" << \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"flute" \set Staff.instrument = \markup { \center-align < "Flauto I." > } \set Staff.instr = \markup { \center-align < "Fl." > } \barlines \theFlutes >> New: \new Staff { \set Staff.instrument = \markup { "Flauti" } \set Staff.instr = \markup { Fl. } \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"flute" \barlines \new Voice { \Flute } } \barlines contains key/time/tempo changes, like this: barlines = \notes { \override Score.MetronomeMark #'transparent = ##t \override Score.TupletBracket #'bracket-visibility = ##f \override Score.TextScript #'font-magnification = #1.25 \set Score.skipBars = ##t \time 3/4 \key g \major s2.*17 \time 6/8 } Originally, the music and \barlines would tie in perfectly. With the changes in definition, lilypond now puts \barlines in front in the form of white space, and then the music follows normally. Any recommendations as to how to avoid this problem? Will Oram // Genius @ Large // AIM spamguy21 spamguy (at) foxchange (dot) com // wro1 (at) cwru (dot) edu From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jul 07 03:34:12 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bi6wW-0000V6-GN for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 03:34:12 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bi6wU-0000US-90 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 03:34:10 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bi6wS-0000T8-Ip for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 03:34:09 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bi6wS-0000T5-FP for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 03:34:08 -0400 Received: from [212.12.47.141] (helo=mail2.pepperzak.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bi6tk-0001iU-O1 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 03:31:20 -0400 Received: from p508f7e60.dip.t-dialin.net ([80.143.126.96]) by mail2.pepperzak.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 7 Jul 2004 09:32:00 +0200 From: Thomas Scharkowski To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: RE: lilypond 2.2.3 on Suse 9.1 Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 09:31:12 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200407070931.13213.t.scharkowski@t-online.de> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jul 2004 07:32:01.0187 (UTC) FILETIME=[7E17B730:01C463F4] X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 07:34:10 -0000 > I guess that you basically did > ./configure > make > make install That's what I did. > which means that lily.scm should be installed in > /usr/local/share/lilypond/2.2.3/scm/lily.scm No scm directory there! > > Also, the command > lilypond-bin --help --verbose > should say > local_lilypond_datadir: `/usr/local/share/lilypond/2.2.3' It does. So obviously the scm directory is missing. Can I do anything about it? Thank you, Thomas > ... > /Mats > From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jul 07 04:42:44 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bi80p-0004WR-PK for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 04:42:43 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bi80n-0004W0-M4 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 04:42:41 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bi80m-0004VK-9C for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 04:42:41 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bi80l-0004VH-Vn for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 04:42:40 -0400 Received: from [130.237.43.24] (helo=iris.s3.kth.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bi7yY-0004IX-K9 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 04:40:22 -0400 Received: from localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.md.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 550AB61C15; Wed, 7 Jul 2004 10:40:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se ([130.237.43.24]) by localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id 29135-07; Wed, 7 Jul 2004 10:40:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0604061C16; Wed, 7 Jul 2004 10:40:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [130.237.50.49] (drongo.s3.kth.se [130.237.50.49]) by iris.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDFA961C15; Wed, 7 Jul 2004 10:40:19 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <40EBB6F4.60105@s3.kth.se> Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 10:40:20 +0200 From: Mats Bengtsson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thomas Scharkowski Subject: Re: lilypond 2.2.3 on Suse 9.1 References: <200407070931.13213.t.scharkowski@t-online.de> In-Reply-To: <200407070931.13213.t.scharkowski@t-online.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 08:42:42 -0000 Thomas Scharkowski wrote: >>I guess that you basically did >>./configure >>make >>make install > > > That's what I did. I hope you logged in as root when you did 'make install', otherwise you don't have any access rights in /usr/local/share/. From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jul 07 04:46:49 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bi84n-0006Bn-Gk for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 04:46:49 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bi84h-0006Ar-R7 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 04:46:43 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bi84e-0006A1-M5 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 04:46:42 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bi84e-00069p-9Q for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 04:46:40 -0400 Received: from [130.237.43.24] (helo=iris.s3.kth.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bi823-0004uz-DR for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 04:44:00 -0400 Received: from localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.md.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69AAC61B0F; Wed, 7 Jul 2004 10:43:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se ([130.237.43.24]) by localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id 29284-05; Wed, 7 Jul 2004 10:43:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ABE861B29; Wed, 7 Jul 2004 10:43:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [130.237.50.49] (drongo.s3.kth.se [130.237.50.49]) by iris.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F84661B0F; Wed, 7 Jul 2004 10:43:57 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <40EBB7CD.2040306@s3.kth.se> Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 10:43:57 +0200 From: Mats Bengtsson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Will Oram Subject: Re: External \notes Block Acting Odd References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 08:46:47 -0000 Will Oram wrote: > Usually when I work with multiple staves, I keep time sig, key sig, and > tempo changes separate from the music. > > I upgraded to 2.2.4, and I started experimenting with the alternative > way of defining instruments. > > Old: > \context Staff = "flauti" << > \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"flute" > \set Staff.instrument = \markup { \center-align < > "Flauto I." > } > \set Staff.instr = \markup { \center-align < "Fl." > } > \barlines > \theFlutes >> > > New: > \new Staff { > \set Staff.instrument = \markup { "Flauti" } > \set Staff.instr = \markup { Fl. } > \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"flute" > \barlines > \new Voice { \Flute } > } > > \barlines contains key/time/tempo changes, like this: > > barlines = \notes { > \override Score.MetronomeMark #'transparent = ##t > \override Score.TupletBracket #'bracket-visibility = ##f > \override Score.TextScript #'font-magnification = #1.25 > \set Score.skipBars = ##t > > \time 3/4 > \key g \major > > s2.*17 > \time 6/8 > } > Originally, the music and \barlines would tie in perfectly. With the > changes in definition, lilypond now puts \barlines in front in the form > of white space, and then the music follows normally. Any recommendations > as to how to avoid this problem? I'm sure you can figure it out yourself if you compare the old and new version. Hint: <<...>> means simultaneous, {...} means sequential. /Mats From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jul 07 06:16:42 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bi9Tl-00046A-Tr for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 06:16:41 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bi9Tk-00045u-CX for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 06:16:40 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bi9Tj-00045d-L8 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 06:16:39 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bi9Tj-00045T-Gm for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 06:16:39 -0400 Received: from [212.12.47.141] (helo=mail2.pepperzak.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bi9RV-0002Ih-7c for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 06:14:21 -0400 Received: from p508f7e60.dip.t-dialin.net ([80.143.126.96]) by mail2.pepperzak.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 7 Jul 2004 12:15:02 +0200 From: Thomas Scharkowski To: Mats Bengtsson Subject: Re: lilypond 2.2.3 on Suse 9.1 Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 12:14:13 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <200407070931.13213.t.scharkowski@t-online.de> <40EBB6F4.60105@s3.kth.se> In-Reply-To: <40EBB6F4.60105@s3.kth.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200407071214.14093.t.scharkowski@t-online.de> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jul 2004 10:15:02.0296 (UTC) FILETIME=[44168180:01C4640B] Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 10:16:40 -0000 > Thomas Scharkowski wrote: > >>I guess that you basically did > >>./configure > >>make > >>make install > > > > That's what I did. > > I hope you logged in as root when you did 'make install', > otherwise you don't have any access rights in /usr/local/share/. Yes, I was root. I finally copied the missing scm directory (from the extracted package) to /usr/local/share/lilypond/2.2.3 Now lilypond works! I did not think it was that easy, but there is still one problem left: The dvi and ps/pdf output looks somewhat strange; it is stretched horizontally and some font assignments are confused e.g. I get a wrong clef (c clef instead of g) an so on. Perhaps I can easily change this behaviour by editing /copying a font map manually? Thank you! Thomas From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jul 07 06:55:12 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BiA52-0005a1-OU for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 06:55:12 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BiA51-0005YF-5w for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 06:55:11 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BiA4z-0005Wm-6Y for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 06:55:10 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BiA4y-0005Wi-VV for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 06:55:09 -0400 Received: from [130.237.43.24] (helo=iris.s3.kth.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BiA2d-0008DZ-VO for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 06:52:44 -0400 Received: from localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.md.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E08161AC2; Wed, 7 Jul 2004 12:52:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se ([130.237.43.24]) by localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id 01347-05; Wed, 7 Jul 2004 12:52:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D7DD61AF6; Wed, 7 Jul 2004 12:52:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [130.237.50.49] (drongo.s3.kth.se [130.237.50.49]) by iris.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 187D761AC2; Wed, 7 Jul 2004 12:52:41 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <40EBD5F9.6030503@s3.kth.se> Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 12:52:41 +0200 From: Mats Bengtsson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thomas Scharkowski Subject: Re: lilypond 2.2.3 on Suse 9.1 References: <200407070931.13213.t.scharkowski@t-online.de> <40EBB6F4.60105@s3.kth.se> <200407071214.14093.t.scharkowski@t-online.de> In-Reply-To: <200407071214.14093.t.scharkowski@t-online.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 10:55:11 -0000 Thomas Scharkowski wrote: >>Thomas Scharkowski wrote: >> >>>>I guess that you basically did >>>>./configure >>>>make >>>>make install >>> >>>That's what I did. >> >>I hope you logged in as root when you did 'make install', >>otherwise you don't have any access rights in /usr/local/share/. > > Yes, I was root. > > I finally copied the missing scm directory (from the extracted package) to > > /usr/local/share/lilypond/2.2.3 > > Now lilypond works! I did not think it was that easy, but there is still one > problem left: > > The dvi and ps/pdf output looks somewhat strange; it is stretched horizontally > and some font assignments are confused e.g. I get a wrong clef (c clef > instead of g) an so on. Perhaps I can easily change this behaviour by > editing /copying a font map manually? No, no! It should work correctly as soon as the compilation and installation has been completed correctly. Please rerun 'make install' and check for any warnings or error messages. I cannot understand why make install didn't put the scm/ files in the right place and there be more missing directories or files due to the same installation problem. The wrong clef may also be an indication that you have some old font files left from an earlier installation, see the paragraph on Font Problems in INSTALL.txt. Also, I hope you have made sure that the contents of buildscripts/out/lilypond-profile is read when you start a new shell. In the standard installations, that's done by copying the file to /etc/profile.d/lilypond-profile.sh. /Mats From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jul 07 08:01:00 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BiB6h-0005sj-Ja for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 08:01:00 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BiB6d-0005qs-N4 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 08:00:56 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BiB6Z-0005oj-HW for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 08:00:54 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BiB6Z-0005oT-7h for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 08:00:51 -0400 Received: from [195.70.32.130] (helo=mail.interware.hu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BiB3x-0001yF-7T for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 07:58:09 -0400 Received: from caracas-2742.adsl.interware.hu ([213.178.110.182]) by mail.interware.hu with esmtp (Exim 4.34 #1 (Debian)) id 1BiB3v-0003e9-6w for ; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 13:58:07 +0200 Message-ID: <40EBE54B.1090800@freemail.hu> Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 13:58:03 +0200 From: Bertalan Fodor User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (Windows/20040626) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: spanner text vertical alignment Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 12:00:57 -0000 Hello, I have the following spanner text. \override Voice.TextSpanner #'edge-text = #(cons "rit." (markup (#:upright #:bold "meno mosso,") (#:tiny #:note "4" 0.7) "= 96") ) It will make a tempo mark at the end of the spanner. The problem is that the end-text is centered with the spanner, and because of the stem of the note, it is not appropriate, because the "meno mosso" should be centered, not the whole markup. Thanks, Bert From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jul 07 08:09:05 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BiBEW-00085Z-Pe for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 08:09:04 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BiBEV-00085U-Lh for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 08:09:03 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BiBET-000851-Pb for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 08:09:03 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BiBET-00084i-JX for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 08:09:01 -0400 Received: from [212.12.47.141] (helo=mail2.pepperzak.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BiBC9-0003fJ-Cm for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 08:06:37 -0400 Received: from pd9ff3474.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.255.52.116]) by mail2.pepperzak.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 7 Jul 2004 14:07:18 +0200 From: Thomas Scharkowski To: Mats Bengtsson Subject: Re: lilypond 2.2.3 on Suse 9.1 Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 14:06:30 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <200407070931.13213.t.scharkowski@t-online.de> <40EBB6F4.60105@s3.kth.se> In-Reply-To: <40EBB6F4.60105@s3.kth.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200407071406.31251.t.scharkowski@t-online.de> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jul 2004 12:07:18.0484 (UTC) FILETIME=[F32B3940:01C4641A] Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 12:09:03 -0000 When I run "make install" I get the following error messages: ./out/feta11tfm does not exist. make[1]:***[local-install-outfiles] Fehler 1 make[1]: Leaving directory '/usr/.../lilypond-2.2.3/mf' make: *** [install] Fehler 2 And "make install" did not create a "scm" directory. I have run the "clean-fonts.sh" script. > ... > Please rerun 'make install' and check for any warnings or error > messages. I cannot understand why make install didn't put the scm/ > files in the right place and there be more missing directories or > files due to the same installation problem. > > The wrong clef may also be an indication that you have some old > font files left from an earlier installation, see the paragraph > on Font Problems in INSTALL.txt. I have run the "clean-fonts.sh" script. > Also, I hope you have made sure > that the contents of buildscripts/out/lilypond-profile is read > when you start a new shell. In the standard installations, that's > done by copying the file to /etc/profile.d/lilypond-profile.sh. Done. But all this did not solve the problem. How can I avoid the error in "make install"? Thank you, Thomas From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jul 07 08:10:29 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BiBFs-0008SF-NM for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 08:10:28 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BiBFi-0008Py-TP for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 08:10:20 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BiBFY-0008Nb-TC for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 08:10:13 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BiBFY-0008NM-07 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 08:10:08 -0400 Received: from [213.31.226.166] (helo=relay01.par.totalfinaelf.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BiBD9-0003un-8s for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 08:07:40 -0400 Received: from relay01.par.totalfinaelf.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.par.totalfinaelf.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7316B11B9C5 for ; Wed, 7 Jul 2004 11:52:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from heu-fm-09.europe.hd.corp.local (unknown [10.22.149.3]) by SEA-PAR-SUN-SMTP-02A.totalfinaelf.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F9F111B5B3 for ; Wed, 7 Jul 2004 11:52:58 +0000 (GMT) Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?R=E9f=2E_=3A_Re=3A_markup_position?= To: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.12 February 13, 2003 Message-ID: From: Jean-marc LEGRAND Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 14:06:30 +0200 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on XFRPAR-HE05/GROUP/Corp(Release 6.5.1|January 21, 2004) at 07/07/2004 14:07:37 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jean-marc LEGRAND List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 12:10:22 -0000 It actually does work with \once \property Voice.TextScript \override #'extra-offset =3D #'(x . = y) !!! (i work with lily2.0 on WindowsXP). Thanks for your trick ! = = Mats Bengtsson = = Envoy=E9 par : = Pour : LEGRAND Jean-Marc = lilypond-user-bounces+jean-marc.legrand=3Dtotal. = cc : lilypond-user@gnu.org = com@gnu.org = Objet : Re: markup position = = = = = 30/06/2004 15:39 = = = = = = For the moment, there is no direct support to add an arbitrary markup at an arbitrary pitch within a stave. However, you can always use the extra-offset property to move a markup to the desired position, even though it may require some manual tweaking to find the correct offset for each markup. /Mats LEGRAND Jean-Marc wrote: > Hi all of you ! > > I just always have the same problem : I cannot place my markups at th= e right position. My markups > are either on the top or the bottom of the stave, and I can't find ou= t how to put them into the > stave itself, just like fingering with \property \Voice.fingeringOrie= ntations (left), for instance. > > Any help, please ! > > > > _______________________________________________ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: mats.bengtsson@s3.kth.se WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D _______________________________________________ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user = From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jul 07 08:41:47 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BiBkB-00017v-DG for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 08:41:47 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BiBkA-00015n-2L for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 08:41:46 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BiBk8-00015D-A7 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 08:41:45 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BiBk8-00015A-7I for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 08:41:44 -0400 Received: from [69.41.246.2] (helo=server.dnswired.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1BiBi1-0001Bm-Fd for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 08:39:33 -0400 Received: from 201009060243.user.veloxzone.com.br ([201.9.60.243] helo=pythagoras) by server.dnswired.com with esmtp (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1BiBhv-0001eJ-LW for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 09:39:28 -0300 Received: from kroger by pythagoras with local (Exim 4.30) id 1BiBiS-0001Jp-6X for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 09:40:00 -0300 Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 09:40:00 -0300 From: Pedro Kroger To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: lilypond 2.2.3 on Suse 9.1 Message-ID: <20040707123959.GA4910@pedrokroeger.net> Mail-Followup-To: lilypond-user@gnu.org References: <200407070931.13213.t.scharkowski@t-online.de> <40EBB6F4.60105@s3.kth.se> <200407071406.31251.t.scharkowski@t-online.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200407071406.31251.t.scharkowski@t-online.de> X-Editor: Emacs www.emacs.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040523i Sender: Pedro Kroger X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server.dnswired.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - pedrokroeger.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 12:41:46 -0000 On Wed Jul 07, 2004 at 02:06:30PM +0200, Thomas Scharkowski wrote: > When I run "make install" I get the following error messages: > > ./out/feta11tfm does not exist. > make[1]:***[local-install-outfiles] Fehler 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory '/usr/.../lilypond-2.2.3/mf' > make: *** [install] Fehler 2 > > And "make install" did not create a "scm" directory. > I have run the "clean-fonts.sh" script. I'd do a "make all" again and see if there are any errors. Since you are still building it, why not get the latest version (2.2.4)? Pedro From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jul 07 10:10:20 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BiD7s-0002Pa-AK for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 10:10:20 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BiD7r-0002PN-3L for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 10:10:19 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BiD7p-0002PB-9r for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 10:10:18 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BiD7p-0002P8-78 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 10:10:17 -0400 Received: from [213.31.226.166] (helo=relay01.par.totalfinaelf.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BiD5M-0007Uh-SQ for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 10:07:45 -0400 Received: from relay01.par.totalfinaelf.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.par.totalfinaelf.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF4291EF9A1 for ; Wed, 7 Jul 2004 13:53:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from heu-fm-09.europe.hd.corp.local (unknown [10.22.149.3]) by SEA-PAR-SUN-SMTP-02B.totalfinaelf.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA8B51EF99E for ; Wed, 7 Jul 2004 13:53:19 +0000 (GMT) Subject: thin line for figured bass To: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.12 February 13, 2003 Message-ID: From: Jean-marc LEGRAND Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 16:06:56 +0200 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on XFRPAR-HE05/GROUP/Corp(Release 6.5.1|January 21, 2004) at 07/07/2004 16:07:42 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jean-marc LEGRAND List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 14:10:19 -0000 Hi list ! I've been visiting the archives to find a trick, but I couldn't find a solution. I have to insert into my figured bass some thin lines after figures, that indicate that the chord is still running on the note after (am I clear ? ;o)) I've found in the tip and tricks a scheme that could work : % Generated by lilypond-book % Options: [printfilename,texidoc,linewidth] \paper { linewidth = 160 \mm } \renameinput "embedded-postscript.ly" \version "2.0.0" \header { texidoc = "@cindex Embedded Postscript By inserting the @TeX{} command \embeddedps, you can insert postscript directly into the output. "} \score { \notes \relative c'' { a-"\\embeddedps{2 7 moveto 5 1 rlineto stroke}" } \paper { linewidth = 70 * \staffspace % raggedright = ##t } } It does print a line from 2 7 to (2 7)+ (5 1). But this line is very thick, and I'de like to adapt this exmeple to thiner lines. How can I do ? From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jul 07 10:11:16 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BiD8l-0002cM-S6 for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 10:11:15 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg9dC-0006FN-Oa for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 18:02:10 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg9d8-0006Ed-Vm for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 18:02:10 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bg9d8-0006EM-Tx for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 18:02:06 -0400 Received: from [62.251.70.160] (helo=hns1.grootaers-nl.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1Bg9aq-0001MU-KN for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 17:59:45 -0400 Received: from mandrake01.grootaers-nl.com (herman1 [192.168.26.100]) by hns1.grootaers-nl.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i61LxdPB018159; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 23:59:41 +0200 From: Herman Grootaers To: Mats Bengtsson Subject: Re: not-latin lyrics Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 23:59:37 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.1 References: <16604.3286.359040.101600@localhost.localdomain> <200406282021.26891.herman@grootaers-nl.com> <40E42BE2.30400@s3.kth.se> In-Reply-To: <40E42BE2.30400@s3.kth.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="Boundary-00=_JlI5A48Gg5usY19" Message-Id: <200407012359.39026.herman@grootaers-nl.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 10:11:14 -0400 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 22:02:11 -0000 --Boundary-00=_JlI5A48Gg5usY19 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday 01 July 2004 17:21, you wrote: > The steps described below are not relevant for the current versions > of LilyPond. However, they provided enough hints that I think I have > found a solution, see the following example. Note that I don't know > any russian, so I just copied a text from a web page. > > ------------------------------------------------ > \header{ > inputencoding=3D"koi8-r" > fontencoding=3D"T2A" > } > > \score{<< > \context Voice =3D melody \notes \relative c'{ > c d e f g a b c} > \lyricsto melody \new Lyrics \lyrics{ > =D0=94=D0=BB=D1=8F =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=B4=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B6=D0=BA= =D0=B8 =D1=80=D1=83=D1=81=D1=81=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=B3=D0=BE =D1=8F=D0=B7=D1=8B= =D0=BA=D0=B0 =D0=B2 teTeX =D0=BD=D1=83=D0=B6=D0=BD=D0=BE > }>> > \paper{ > \context{ > \LyricsContext > \override LyricText #'font-name =3D #'"larm1000" > } > } > } > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > As you can see, the necessary steps are to define the > inputencoding and the fontencoding and to tell LilyPond > the name of the font file. The steps to find out the name of > the font file is just as described below (I don't understand > the problems mentioned about the larm* files though). > > Note that you need LilyPond version 2.2.0 or newer for > this solution to work. > Thanks, I got it now so far that I can compile the file correctly, though=20 there are some problems in getting the script on the paper. I do send the source and the log of the verbose translation with it. Maybe you can give me a final hint where to look for, because there are a f= ew=20 projects waiting to be resolved on this. =3D=3D=20 Greetings, Herman Grootaers --Boundary-00=_JlI5A48Gg5usY19 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; name="testmulti.ly" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="testmulti.ly" %% Generated by lilypond-book %% Options: [printfilename,texidoc,linewidth] #(define toplevel-score-handler ly:parser-print-score) \paper { linewidth =3D 160 \mm } \renameinput "Ektenia101.ly" \version "2.3.5" \header { texidoc =3D "Mayor or Peace-litany" %% Choral response to the prayers by the Diacon or Priest %% First litany in the orthodox services %% Named after it's size and after the first prayer inputencoding=3D"Unicode" fontencoding=3D"T2A" } sopMusic =3D \relative c'' { \cadenzaOn \stemUp \autoBeamOff a4 a2^\fermata \bar "||" a8 a a a a2 a^\fermata \bar "|:" a8 a a a g2 a^\fermata \bar ":|" a4 a2 bes bes a^\fermata \bar "||" a4 a2^\fermata \bar "|." } sopWords =3D \lyrics { } altoMusic =3D \relative c' { \cadenzaOn \stemDown \autoBeamOff c4 c2_\fermata \bar "||" c8 c c c c2 c_\fermata \bar "|:" c8 c c c c2 c_\fermata \bar ":|" c4 c2 d c c_\fermata \bar "||" c4 c2_\fermata \bar "|." } altoWords =3D\lyrics { =D0=90-4 =D0=BC=D0=B8=D0=BD.2 =D0=93=D0=BE=D1=81-8 =D0=BF=D0=BE- =D0=B4=D0=B8- =D0=BF=D0=BE- =D0=BC=D0= =B8-2 =D0=BB=D1=83=D0=B9. =D0=93=D0=BE=D1=81-8 =D0=BF=D0=BE- =D0=B4=D0=B8- =D0=BF=D0=BE- =D0=BC=D0= =B8-2 =D0=BB=D1=83=D0=B9. =D0=A2=D0=B5-4 =D0=B1=D0=B5,2 =D0=93=D0=BE=D1=81- =D0=BF=D0=BE- =D0=B4=D0= =B8. =D0=90-4 =D0=BC=D0=B8=D0=BD.2 } tenorMusic =3D \relative c' { \cadenzaOn \stemUp \autoBeamOff c4 c2^\fermata \bar "||" c8 c c c c2 c^\fermata \bar "|:" c8 c c c c2 c^\fermata \bar ":|" c4 c2 d c c^\fermata \bar "||" c4 c2^\fermata \bar "|." } tenorWords =3D \lyrics { } bassMusic =3D \relative c { \cadenzaOn \stemDown \autoBeamOff f4 f2_\fermata \bar "||" f8 f f f f2 f_\fermata \bar "|:" f8 f f f c2 f_\fermata \bar ":|" f4 f2 bes, c f_\fermata \bar "||" f4 f2_\fermata \bar "|." } bassWords =3D \lyrics { } \score { << \context StaffGroup << \context Lyrics =3D sopranos { s1 } \context Staff =3D women << \context Voi= ce =3D sopranos { \voiceOne \sopMusic } \context Voice= =3D altos { \voiceTwo \altoMusic } >> \context Lyrics =3D altos { s1 } \context Lyrics =3D tenors { s1 } \context Staff =3D men << \clef bass \context Voice = =3D tenors { \voiceOne \tenorMusic } \context Voice = =3D basses { \voiceTwo \bassMusic } >> \context Lyrics =3D basses { s1 } \context Lyrics =3D sopranos \lyricsto s= opranos \sopWords \context Lyrics =3D altos \lyricsto alto= s \altoWords \context Lyrics =3D tenors \lyricsto ten= ors \tenorWords \context Lyrics =3D basses \lyricsto bas= ses \bassWords >> >> } \paper { \context { % a little smaller so lyrics can be closer to the staff. \Staff minimumVerticalExtent =3D #'(-3 . 3) \override LyricText #'fontname =3D #'"verdana" } } --Boundary-00=_JlI5A48Gg5usY19-- From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jul 07 11:05:33 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BiDzJ-0006vG-4q for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 11:05:33 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BiDzH-0006v6-G7 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 11:05:31 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BiDzG-0006un-QY for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 11:05:31 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BiDzG-0006uk-NR for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 11:05:30 -0400 Received: from [128.2.178.243] (helo=mandal.lti.cs.cmu.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BiDwn-0000AR-A0; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 11:02:57 -0400 To: Jan Nieuwenhuizen Subject: Re: [svoboda@mandal.lti.cs.cmu.edu] Lilypond Comments! References: <87n02f3i0r.fsf@peder.flower> <87wu1ig8io.fsf@peder.flower> From: svoboda@mandal.lti.cs.cmu.edu Date: 07 Jul 2004 11:02:23 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87wu1ig8io.fsf@peder.flower> Message-ID: Lines: 71 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: svoboda@mandal.lti.cs.cmu.edu Source-Info: Sender is really svoboda+@mandal.lti.cs.cmu.edu Cc: svoboda@mandal.lti.cs.cmu.edu, lilypond-user@gnu.org, heikki.junes@hut.fi X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: svoboda@cs.cmu.edu List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 15:05:31 -0000 Jan Nieuwenhuizen writes: > [flup to mailing list] > > >> %% foe > >> | a4 b8 > >> | c16( d f) > >> | c4-2 d > > > > OK. Is there a BNF grammar I can examine? I'm not sure just what > > other kinds of exotic stuff 'what-beat' would have to recognize. > > No. The specification is in lily/parser.yy, but you can get most important > things from the tutorial. I'll scan that, then. I think the best thing to do actually is find out everything that can be stuck between a note pitch and its duration. Its easy to recognize the following note and ignore any garbage in-between a duration (or the location a duration would exist) and the following note, and I'd rather not have to teach what-beat every nuance of Lilypond syntax. > >> * Bind (a safe-variant of) it to '|' (or maybe even RET) > > > > I'll bind it to C-| then. > > O, the curren explicit binding is fine, I just thought an implicit > binding (electric if you like) could be nice: every time you close a > bar | you're told how many beats? Oh, I see. (I never have liked electric chars, so that didn't occur to me.) But an electric | that ran what-beat would serve well, and having C-| explicitly call what-beat (for when you don't want to modify your document) is a good supplement. > > I presume you mean lilypond's emacs mode, right? I can create a patch > > & send it to you if that's what you prefer. > > Yes, that was what I meant, but please discuss with Heikki what needs > to be done before it goes in. Agreed. I can work on integration today. Heikki, what must I do to what-beat in order to integrate it into emacs-mode? So far, I plan to: -> Improve the note-recognition syntax so that what-beat works with as much as it reasonably can. (I'll document any problems it has.) -> Bind what-beat to C-|, add an electric-what-beat binding to |. -> Include elisp code into lilypond, mail you the diffs. Is that sufficient? NOTE: I am using lilypond 2.2.0...I was more interested in getting work done than in testing experimentatl features...at least I started off that way :) > Jan. > > -- > Jan Nieuwenhuizen | GNU LilyPond - The music typesetter > http://www.xs4all.nl/~jantien | http://www.lilypond.org > -- David Svoboda arslan_ibn_daud@yahoo.com Senior Research Programmer http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~svoboda Language Technologies Institute Practice Kind Randomness and Carnegie Mellon University Beautiful Acts of Nonsense From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jul 07 11:36:17 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BiET2-0005jf-Vt for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 11:36:17 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BiET1-0005j9-Cl for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 11:36:15 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BiET0-0005ix-Im for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 11:36:15 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BiET0-0005iu-Ft for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 11:36:14 -0400 Received: from [130.237.43.24] (helo=iris.s3.kth.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BiEQp-0005GS-64 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 11:33:59 -0400 Received: from localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.md.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86BCD61AF6; Wed, 7 Jul 2004 17:33:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se ([130.237.43.24]) by localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id 11795-01; Wed, 7 Jul 2004 17:33:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 328CE61B29; Wed, 7 Jul 2004 17:33:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [130.237.50.49] (drongo.s3.kth.se [130.237.50.49]) by iris.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id E521A61AF6; Wed, 7 Jul 2004 17:33:55 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <40EC17E4.2080109@s3.kth.se> Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 17:33:56 +0200 From: Mats Bengtsson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jean-marc LEGRAND Subject: Re: thin line for figured bass References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 15:36:15 -0000 You are right, this is a missing feature that's high on the wish list for the figured bass support. It shouldn't be too implement, mimicing the support for extender lines in lyrics. As you show, it's possible to do anything with embedded postscript code. Try "\\embeddedps{0.1 setlinewidth 2 7 moveto 5 1 rlineto stroke}" to get a more reasonable line width. However, it might be easier to typeset the figured bass using ordinary text scripts and use text spanners to draw the lines, see http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.2/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Text-spanners.html#Text%20spanners Do \override TextSpanner #'style = #'line to get a solid line instead of the default dashed line. /Mats Jean-marc LEGRAND wrote: > > > > Hi list ! > > I've been visiting the archives to find a trick, but I couldn't find a solution. > > I have to insert into my figured bass some thin lines after figures, that indicate that the chord is > still running on the note after (am I clear ? ;o)) > > I've found in the tip and tricks a scheme that could work : > > % Generated by lilypond-book > % Options: [printfilename,texidoc,linewidth] > \paper { > linewidth = 160 \mm > } > \renameinput "embedded-postscript.ly" > \version "2.0.0" > \header { > texidoc = "@cindex Embedded Postscript > By inserting the @TeX{} command \embeddedps, you can > insert postscript directly into the output. > "} > > \score { > \notes > \relative c'' { > a-"\\embeddedps{2 7 moveto 5 1 rlineto stroke}" > } > \paper { linewidth = 70 * \staffspace > % raggedright = ##t > } > > } > It does print a line from 2 7 to (2 7)+ (5 1). But this line is very thick, and I'de like to adapt > this exmeple to thiner lines. > > How can I do ? > > > > _______________________________________________ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- ============================================= Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: mats.bengtsson@s3.kth.se WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe ============================================= From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jul 07 18:32:51 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BiKyB-0006Kh-JC for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 18:32:51 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BiKyA-0006KL-3x for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 18:32:50 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BiKy9-0006K9-6B for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 18:32:49 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BiKy9-0006Jz-1s for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 18:32:49 -0400 Received: from [62.240.72.111] (helo=smtp2.dnainternet.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BiKvm-000583-0N for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 18:30:22 -0400 Received: from baana224-122.baanapalvelut.net ([213.186.224.122]:1274 "EHLO [213.186.224.122]" TLS-CIPHER: ) by smtp2.dnainternet.net with ESMTP id S1234556AbUGGWaM (ORCPT ); Thu, 8 Jul 2004 01:30:12 +0300 Message-ID: <40EC79C4.6010300@medialounge.com> Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 01:31:32 +0300 From: Sami Huhtala User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (Windows/20040626) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Beam damping - again Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 22:32:50 -0000 Hi, Back to the subject discussed couple of months ago in message http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2004-03/msg00767.html > Basically, > slope := 0.6 * tanh (slope) / damping; The LilyPond program-reference says that the damping-value must be an integer, but are there any (mathematical) reasons for that? I, too, find the default value (1) to be too steep, but value 2 gives too flat results - I think something between 1.3 and 1.5 would give just the right slope. Scale from 1 to 100000 is really exaggerated, because even value 10 gives virtually horizontal beams (version 2.2.2). -Sami Huhtala From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jul 07 18:43:55 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BiL8t-0000d7-BZ for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 18:43:55 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BiL8r-0000cy-34 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 18:43:53 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BiL8p-0000cj-LO for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 18:43:52 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BiL8p-0000cc-I6 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 18:43:51 -0400 Received: from [213.84.26.127] (helo=localhost.localdomain) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1BiL6S-0006qz-9z for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 18:41:24 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain.byrd.xs4all.nl (byrd [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i67MfQxi020171; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 00:41:26 +0200 From: Han-Wen Nienhuys MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16620.31766.211700.341284@localhost.localdomain> Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 00:41:26 +0200 To: Sami Huhtala Subject: Beam damping - again In-Reply-To: <40EC79C4.6010300@medialounge.com> References: <40EC79C4.6010300@medialounge.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.14 under Emacs 21.3.1 X-yoursite-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-yoursite-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: hanwen@xs4all.nl Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: hanwen@xs4all.nl List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 22:43:53 -0000 sami@medialounge.com writes: > > Hi, > > Back to the subject discussed couple of months ago in message > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2004-03/msg00767.html > > > Basically, > > slope := 0.6 * tanh (slope) / damping; > > The LilyPond program-reference says that the damping-value must be an > integer, but are there any (mathematical) reasons for that? I, too, find > the default value (1) to be too steep, but value 2 gives too flat > results - I think something between 1.3 and 1.5 would give just the > right slope. no, does probably not have to integer. You can change this by changing teh definition for damping from ,integer? into ,number? in scm/define-grob-properties.scm -- Han-Wen Nienhuys | hanwen@xs4all.nl | http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jul 07 18:51:21 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BiLG4-0001xe-SD for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 18:51:20 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BiLG4-0001x8-2d for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 18:51:20 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BiLG3-0001wP-0n for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 18:51:19 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BiLG2-0001vx-PM for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 18:51:18 -0400 Received: from [68.168.78.199] (helo=mta9.adelphia.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BiLDm-00082d-6e for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 18:48:58 -0400 Received: from [192.168.2.10] (really [68.170.38.222]) by mta9.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.03.02 201-2131-111-104-20040324) with ESMTP id <20040707224857.ZTTZ23406.mta9.adelphia.net@[192.168.2.10]> for ; Wed, 7 Jul 2004 18:48:57 -0400 Message-ID: <40EC7DC2.6060907@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 15:48:34 -0700 From: Brian Clements User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (Windows/20040626) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Can't find the source of the problems (solo slashes, chords, and duplicate second endings) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 22:51:20 -0000 Windows 2000 running version 2.2.2. Below is an entire guitar part for an arrangement of mine. I'm having trouble with just a couple of things: (If you can't see the problems in the code, then you know where I'm coming from. If you compile it and view the finished product you will see the same problems I see) 1.) The first, second, and second (agian) ending just before measure 60. I've stared at the code for hours and can't find why its behaving like that. 2.) Also, with regard to solo "slashes". My \slashOn command works fine, but I can't see why my \slashOff command doesn't work. 3.) Why do the chords appear below the intended line? 4.) And if this isn't asking too much, how do you make the stems invisible? I've only been doing this for 2 weeks now. So and other advice with regards to cleaning up code and such will be appreciated. Thanks in advance, -Brian \version "2.2.2" \include "english.ly" \paper { #(set-paper-size "letter") indent = 7 \mm linewidth = 200 \mm interscorline = 13 \pt } \header { title = "Theme From Peter Gunn" head = "00001" composer = "Henry Mancini" piece = "Guitar" arranger = "Arr. Brian Clements" enteredby = "Brian Clements" maintainerEmail = "brclement@earthlink.net" tagline = "Engraved by LilyPond (version 2.2.2)" } slashOn = \notes { \set squashedPosition = #0 \override NoteHead #'style = #'slash } slashOff = \notes { \unset squashedPosition \revert NoteHead #'style } \score { \notes { \key f \major \set Score.markFormatter = #format-mark-numbers \set Score.markFormatter = #(lambda (mark context) (make-bold-markup (make-box-markup (number->string mark)))) \relative c' { \tempo 4=120 \repeat "percent" 3 { f8 f g f16 af-> ~ af a f8 bf-> a } f8 c4-^ ef8-- ~ ef c ef16-> e8. \repeat "percent" 3 { f8 f g f16 af-> ~ af a f8 bf-> a } f8 c4-^ ef8-- ~ ef c ef16-> e8. \bar "||" \mark #9 \repeat "percent" 8 { f8 f g f16 af-> ~ af a f8 bf-> a f8 f g f16 af-> ~ af a f8 bf-> a } \mark #25 \repeat volta 2 { \repeat "percent" 3 { f8 f g f16 af-> ~ af a f8 bf-> a f8 f g f16 af-> ~ af a f8 bf-> a }} \alternative { { \repeat "percent" 2 { f8 f g f16 af-> ~ af a f8 bf-> a }} { \repeat "percent" 2 { f8 f g f16 af-> ~ af a f8 bf-> a }}} \bar "||" \mark #35 \repeat "percent" 4 { f8 f g f16 af-> ~ af a f8 bf-> a f8 f g f16 af-> ~ af a f8 bf-> a } \bar "||" \mark #43 \repeat volta 2 { \set Score.skipBars = ##t R1*7 } \mark #50 %Solo, fill in chords% << \context ChordNames \chords { \repeat volta 2 { f1:m7 f:m7 g:m g:m f:m7 f2.:m7 d4:dim } \alternative { { g1:m7 g:m7 } { g:m7 g2:m7 a:7}}} \notes << \repeat volta 2 { \repeat "unfold" 6 { \slashOn bf4 bf bf bf }} \alternative { { bf4 bf bf bf } { bf4 bf bf bf \slashOff }} \bar "||" >> >> \mark #60 c8 c-^ r8. c16-> ~ c4. a16 bf c8 c-^ r8. c16-> ~ c4. ef16 d c8 c-^ r8. c16-> ~ c4. af16 bf c8 c-^ r8. c16-> ~ c8 bf af g \repeat "percent" 4 { f8 f g f16 af-> ~ af a f8 bf-> a } f8 f g f16 af-> ~ af a f8 bf-> a \mark #69 \repeat "percent" 4 { f8 f g f16 af-> ~ af a f8 bf-> a f8 f g f16 af-> ~ af a f8 bf-> a } } } } From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jul 07 19:19:20 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BiLhA-0000n6-PR for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 19:19:20 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BiLh8-0000mv-Uk for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 19:19:19 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BiLh7-0000mf-UB for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 19:19:18 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BiLh7-0000mV-Sw for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 19:19:17 -0400 Received: from [130.233.228.94] (helo=smtp-4.hut.fi) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1BiLes-0003p1-1H; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 19:16:58 -0400 Received: from maldini.hut.fi (maldini-m.hut.fi [130.233.228.122]) by smtp-4.hut.fi (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i67NGpmA011567; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 02:16:51 +0300 Received: (from apache@localhost) by maldini.hut.fi (8.12.10/8.12.6/Submit) id i67NGpjq025278; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 02:16:51 +0300 To: svoboda@cs.cmu.edu Subject: Re: [svoboda@mandal.lti.cs.cmu.edu] Lilypond Comments! Message-ID: <1089242211.40ec84635d634@webmail2.hut.fi> Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 02:16:51 +0300 (EEST) From: Heikki Johannes Junes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: HUT webmail, IMP 2.2.6 X-Authenticated-Sender: hjunes@cc.hut.fi X-Originating-IP: 213.243.149.19 X-RAVMilter-Version: 8.4.3(snapshot 20030212) (smtp-4.hut.fi) Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org, janneke@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Heikki.Junes@hut.fi List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 23:19:19 -0000 On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 11:02:23 -0400 svoboda@mandal.lti.cs.cmu.edu wrote: > > Jan Nieuwenhuizen writes: > > > [flup to mailing list] Before going to comments, I suggest that the use of the lilypond parser could be extended. As an example, for file file.ly: '{ c8 d16 e16 f4 }' ^ at position 14, one would invoke: lilypond --parse-position-only 14 file.ly which would then output some position dependent information, like: '((staff 1) (bar 1) (beats-before 8 16 16)) The parsing of such a file (which is fast IFAIK) should then be stopped to the given position. I can imagine that this kind of information could be easily exploited in a randomly chosen editor. Jan or Han-Wen, is such a '--parse-position-only' option easily programmable? ( If the answer is 'Yep!', the comments below can be ignored. ) > > >> %% foe > > >> | a4 b8 > > >> | c16( d f) > > >> | c4-2 d > > > > > > OK. Is there a BNF grammar I can examine? I'm not sure just what > > > other kinds of exotic stuff 'what-beat' would have to recognize. > > > > No. The specification is in lily/parser.yy, but you can get most > > important things from the tutorial. > > I'll scan that, then. I think the best thing to do actually is find > out everything that can be stuck between a note pitch and its > duration. Its easy to recognize the following note and ignore any > garbage in-between a duration (or the location a duration would exist) > and the following note, and I'd rather not have to teach what-beat > every nuance of Lilypond syntax. As an example of the general case, consider the following syntax: str = \notes { a8 b c d } % new derivation rule \score { \notes { e4 \str % the derivation rule used g4 | a b \grace { c8 d } % notes with zero timing c4 \accacciatura e8 % a note with zero timing g4 | \repeat unfold 4 { c4 } | % repeated notes %{ c4 e f }% % a block comment } Of course, it is enough if what-beat does not handle all special cases. > > > I presume you mean lilypond's emacs mode, right? I can create a patch > > > & send it to you if that's what you prefer. > > > > Yes, that was what I meant, but please discuss with Heikki what needs > > to be done before it goes in. > > Agreed. I can work on integration today. Heikki, what must I do to > what-beat in order to integrate it into emacs-mode? So far, I plan to: > > -> Improve the note-recognition syntax so that what-beat works with as > much as it reasonably can. (I'll document any problems it has.) > > -> Bind what-beat to C-|, add an electric-what-beat binding to |. An electric-what-beat binding to '|' is ok. However, I can imagine that the output is modest, since generally the problem is not But, C-| is different: I have to press AltGr-'<' in order to get '|' (Finnish key variant). I have not tested does C-AltGr-'<' correspond to C-'|'? In this case, there should also be some other key binding. > -> Include elisp code into lilypond, mail you the diffs. > > Is that sufficient? You may develope against version 2.2.0, but prreferably, do cvs diff -u ChangeLog dir1/file1 dir2/file2 ... > patchfile Then the diffs can be merged with ease. > NOTE: I am using lilypond 2.2.0...I was more interested in getting > work done than in testing experimentatl features...at least I started > off that way :) > > -- > David Svoboda arslan_ibn_daud@yahoo.com > Senior Research Programmer http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~svoboda > Language Technologies Institute Practice Kind Randomness and > Carnegie Mellon University Beautiful Acts of Nonsense -- Heikki Junes From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jul 07 22:14:53 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BiOR2-0006rj-U1 for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 22:14:53 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BiOR1-0006re-MY for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 22:14:51 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BiOR0-0006rS-0O for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 22:14:51 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BiOQz-0006rP-Ui for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 22:14:49 -0400 Received: from [208.6.234.5] (helo=mail.centex.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BiOOa-0004xh-Bk for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 22:12:20 -0400 Received: (qmail 25101 invoked by uid 0); 8 Jul 2004 02:13:22 -0000 Received: from seymour@centex.net by artemis-cn by uid 102 with qmail-scanner-1.20 (uvscan: v4.3.20/v4373. spamassassin: 2.61. 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What is the exact information that needs = to be typed? =20 I need this information for Win98SE. =20 Thanks. From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 08 02:23:26 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BiSJa-00050k-Lt for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jul 2004 02:23:26 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BiSJZ-00050S-42 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jul 2004 02:23:25 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BiSJX-000503-25 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jul 2004 02:23:24 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BiSJW-0004zs-W9 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jul 2004 02:23:23 -0400 Received: from [213.84.26.127] (helo=localhost.localdomain) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1BiSH3-00064P-3O; Thu, 08 Jul 2004 02:20:49 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain.byrd.xs4all.nl (byrd [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i686HT5s004768; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 08:17:29 +0200 From: Han-Wen Nienhuys MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16620.59129.277036.199608@localhost.localdomain> Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 08:17:29 +0200 To: Heikki.Junes@hut.fi Subject: Re: [svoboda@mandal.lti.cs.cmu.edu] Lilypond Comments! In-Reply-To: <1089242211.40ec84635d634@webmail2.hut.fi> References: <1089242211.40ec84635d634@webmail2.hut.fi> X-Mailer: VM 7.14 under Emacs 21.3.1 X-yoursite-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-yoursite-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: hanwen@xs4all.nl Cc: svoboda@cs.cmu.edu, lilypond-user@gnu.org, janneke@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: hanwen@xs4all.nl List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 06:23:25 -0000 hjunes@cc.hut.fi writes: > lilypond --parse-position-only 14 file.ly > > which would then output some position dependent information, like: > > '((staff 1) (bar 1) (beats-before 8 16 16)) > > The parsing of such a file (which is fast IFAIK) should then be stopped to the > given position. I can imagine that this kind of information could be easily > exploited in a randomly chosen editor. > > Jan or Han-Wen, is such a '--parse-position-only' option easily programmable? No - I think it would be almost impossible. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys | hanwen@xs4all.nl | http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 08 03:08:58 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BiT1e-0004uc-DZ for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jul 2004 03:08:58 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BiT1c-0004u3-70 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jul 2004 03:08:56 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BiT1b-0004tY-4V for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jul 2004 03:08:55 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BiT1b-0004tV-1O for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jul 2004 03:08:55 -0400 Received: from [213.223.49.230] (helo=relay01.par.totalfinaelf.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BiSzA-0004Sh-5D for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jul 2004 03:06:24 -0400 Received: from relay01.par.totalfinaelf.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.par.totalfinaelf.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7142F1EF851; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 06:51:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from heu-fm-09.europe.hd.corp.local (unknown [10.22.149.3]) by SEA-PAR-SUN-SMTP-02B.totalfinaelf.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB4581EF1A0; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 06:51:46 +0000 (GMT) Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?R=E9f=2E_=3A_Can't_find_the_source_of_the_problems_=28solo?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_slashes=2C_chords=2C_and duplicate_second_endings=29?= To: "brian clements , lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.12 February 13, 2003 Message-ID: From: Jean-marc LEGRAND Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 09:05:51 +0200 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on XFRPAR-HE05/GROUP/Corp(Release 6.5.1|January 21, 2004) at 08/07/2004 09:06:12 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Cc: X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jean-marc LEGRAND List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 07:08:56 -0000 Hi ! I can only answer your fourth question : to make the barlines invisible= , you can do : \proprety Score. \property Staff.Stem \set #'transparent =3D ##t It does work. And if you want to be free with the length of your maesur= es, you can do : \property Score.timing =3D ##f. Bye = = Brian Clements = = Envoy=E9 par : = Pour : lilypond-user@gnu.org = lilypond-user-bounces+jean-marc.legrand=3Dtotal. = cc : = com@gnu.org = Objet : Can't find the source of the problems (solo slashes, cho= rds, and duplicate = second endings) = = = 08/07/2004 00:48 = = = = = = Windows 2000 running version 2.2.2. Below is an entire guitar part for an arrangement of mine. I'm having trouble with just a couple of things: (If you can't see the problems in the code, then you know where I'm coming from. If you compile it and view the finished product you will see the same problems I see) 1.) The first, second, and second (agian) ending just before measure 60= . I've stared at the code for hours and can't find why its behaving like that. 2.) Also, with regard to solo "slashes". My \slashOn command works fine= , but I can't see why my \slashOff command doesn't work. 3.) Why do the chords appear below the intended line? 4.) And if this isn't asking too much, how do you make the stems invisi= ble? I've only been doing this for 2 weeks now. So and other advice with regards to cleaning up code and such will be appreciated. Thanks in advance, -Brian \version "2.2.2" \include "english.ly" \paper { #(set-paper-size "letter") indent =3D 7 \mm linewidth =3D 200 \mm interscorline =3D 13 \pt } \header { title =3D "Theme From Peter Gunn" head =3D "00001" composer =3D "Henry Mancini" piece =3D "Guitar" arranger =3D "Arr. Brian Clements" enteredby =3D "Brian Clements" maintainerEmail =3D "brclement@earthlink.net" tagline =3D "Engraved by LilyPond (version 2.2.2)" } slashOn =3D \notes { \set squashedPosition =3D #0 \override NoteHead #'style =3D #'slash } slashOff =3D \notes { \unset squashedPosition \revert NoteHead #'style } \score { \notes { \key f \major \set Score.markFormatter =3D #format-mark-numbers \set Score.markFormatter =3D #(lambda (mark context) (make-bold-mar= kup (make-box-markup (number->string mark)))) \relative c' { \tempo 4=3D120 \repeat "percent" 3 { f8 f g f16 af-> ~ af a f8 bf-> a } f8 c4-^ ef8-- ~ ef c ef16-> e8. \repeat "percent" 3 { f8 f g f16 af-> ~ af a f8 bf-> a } f8 c4-^ ef8-- ~ ef c ef16-> e8. \bar "||" \mark #9 \repeat "percent" 8 { f8 f g f16 af-> ~ af a f8 bf-> a f8 f g f16 af-> ~ af a f8 bf-> a } \mark #25 \repeat volta 2 { \repeat "percent" 3 { f8 f g f16 af-> ~ af a f8 bf-> a f8 f g f16 af-> ~ af a f8 bf-> a }} \alternative { { \repeat "percent" 2 { f8 f g f16 af-> ~ af a f8 bf-> a }} { \repeat "percent" 2 { f8 f g f16 af-> ~ af a f8 bf-> a }}} \bar "||" \mark #35 \repeat "percent" 4 { f8 f g f16 af-> ~ af a f8 bf-> a f8 f g f16 af-> ~ af a f8 bf-> a } \bar "||" \mark #43 \repeat volta 2 { \set Score.skipBars =3D ##t R1*7 } \mark #50 %Solo, fill in chords% << \context ChordNames \chords { \repeat volta 2 { f1:m7 f:m7 g:m g:m f:m7 f2.:m7 d4:dim } \alternative { { g1:m7 g:m7 } { g:m7 g2:m7 a:7}}} \notes << \repeat volta 2 { \repeat "unfold" 6 { \slashOn bf4 bf bf bf }} \alternative { { bf4 bf bf bf } { bf4 bf bf bf \slashOff }} \bar "||" >> >> \mark #60 c8 c-^ r8. c16-> ~ c4. a16 bf c8 c-^ r8. c16-> ~ c4. ef16 d c8 c-^ r8. c16-> ~ c4. af16 bf c8 c-^ r8. c16-> ~ c8 bf af g \repeat "percent" 4 { f8 f g f16 af-> ~ af a f8 bf-> a } f8 f g f16 af-> ~ af a f8 bf-> a \mark #69 \repeat "percent" 4 { f8 f g f16 af-> ~ af a f8 bf-> a f8 f g f16 af-> ~ af a f8 bf-> a } } } } _______________________________________________ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user = From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 08 03:32:27 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BiTON-0000V5-9D for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jul 2004 03:32:27 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BiTOK-0000Tu-KF for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jul 2004 03:32:24 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BiTOJ-0000Ta-U4 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jul 2004 03:32:24 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BiTOJ-0000TX-R9; Thu, 08 Jul 2004 03:32:23 -0400 Received: from [81.192.186.180] (helo=batavia.org.za) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BiTLr-0008Bj-9Z; Thu, 08 Jul 2004 03:29:51 -0400 Received: from 156.199.86.3 by smtp.cns.ky; Thu, 08 Jul 2004 07:33:30 +0000 Message-ID: <15f401c464bd$0ce166cf$ce693f84@batavia.org.za> From: "Ingrid F. Durham" To: lilypond-user@gnu.org, lilypond-devel@gnu.org Subject: $12546 Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 10:33:21 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 07:32:25 -0000 Hi, I sent you an email a few days ago, because you now qualify for a new mortgage. You could get $300,000 for as little as $700 a month! Bad credit is no problem, you can pull cash out or refinance. Please click on this link: http://www.lending-now.com/h7/li.php?n5n=71 Best Regards, Steve Morris No more: http://www.lending-now.com/r1/index.html ---- system information ---- process public-i18n-ws@w3org However do validate accordance internationalized Fallback Activity Internationalization]The fallback their archive) complex disclosures distinction all dates support Currency should Locale] specific rely From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 08 09:59:02 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BiZQU-0004WS-OL for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jul 2004 09:59:02 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BiZQT-0004VI-5B for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jul 2004 09:59:01 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BiZQR-0004UY-PB for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jul 2004 09:59:00 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BiZQR-0004UK-DJ for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jul 2004 09:58:59 -0400 Received: from [213.31.226.166] (helo=relay01.par.totalfinaelf.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BiZN9-0003w0-Bn for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jul 2004 09:55:35 -0400 Received: from relay01.par.totalfinaelf.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.par.totalfinaelf.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4FF61EF459; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 13:41:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from heu-fm-09.europe.hd.corp.local (unknown [10.22.149.3]) by SEA-PAR-SUN-SMTP-02B.totalfinaelf.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CEC11EF3F2; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 13:41:07 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: thin line for figured bass To: mats.bengtsson@s3.kth.se, lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.12 February 13, 2003 Message-ID: From: Jean-marc LEGRAND Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 15:55:24 +0200 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on XFRPAR-HE05/GROUP/Corp(Release 6.5.1|January 21, 2004) at 08/07/2004 15:55:33 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jean-marc LEGRAND List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 13:59:01 -0000 This is great : I now have a very old-looking figured bass ! I think I'm going to bild quite easely some other odd markups needed for ancient music ! Many thanks, Mats MATS WROTE : You are right, this is a missing feature that's high on the wish list for the figured bass support. It shouldn't be too implement, mimicing the support for extender lines in lyrics. As you show, it's possible to do anything with embedded postscript code. Try "\\embeddedps{0.1 setlinewidth 2 7 moveto 5 1 rlineto stroke}" to get a more reasonable line width. However, it might be easier to typeset the figured bass using ordinary text scripts and use text spanners to draw the lines, see http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.2/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Text-spanners.html#Text%20spanners Do \override TextSpanner #'style = #'line to get a solid line instead of the default dashed line. /Mats Jean-marc LEGRAND wrote: Hi list ! I've been visiting the archives to find a trick, but I couldn't find a solution. I have to insert into my figured bass some thin lines after figures, that indicate that the chord is still running on the note after (am I clear ? ;o)) I've found in the tip and tricks a scheme that could work : % Generated by lilypond-book % Options: [printfilename,texidoc,linewidth] \paper { linewidth = 160 \mm } \renameinput "embedded-postscript.ly" \version "2.0.0" \header { texidoc = "@cindex Embedded Postscript By inserting the @TeX{} command \embeddedps, you can insert postscript directly into the output. "} \score { \notes \relative c'' { a-"\\embeddedps{2 7 moveto 5 1 rlineto stroke}" } \paper { linewidth = 70 * \staffspace % raggedright = ##t } } It does print a line from 2 7 to (2 7)+ (5 1). But this line is very thick, and I'de like to adapt this exmeple to thiner lines. How can I do ? _______________________________________________ lilypond-user mailing list address@bogus.example.com http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- ============================================= Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: address@bogus.example.com WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe ============================================= From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 08 18:38:13 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BihWv-00027q-Bo for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jul 2004 18:38:13 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BihWt-00026c-Rn for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jul 2004 18:38:11 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BihWt-00026K-3q for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jul 2004 18:38:11 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BihWq-00025P-Vy; Thu, 08 Jul 2004 18:38:09 -0400 Received: from [68.168.78.199] (helo=mta9.adelphia.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BihUe-0006e0-D8; Thu, 08 Jul 2004 18:35:52 -0400 Received: from [192.168.2.10] (really [68.170.38.222]) by mta9.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.03.02 201-2131-111-104-20040324) with ESMTP id <20040708223551.ZXPR23406.mta9.adelphia.net@[192.168.2.10]>; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 18:35:51 -0400 Message-ID: <40EDCC2F.6000308@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 15:35:27 -0700 From: Brian Clements User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (Windows/20040626) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "bug-lilypond@gnu.org" , "lilypond-user@gnu.org" Subject: Found a bug with chords and alternate endings Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 22:38:12 -0000 Windows 2000 version 2.2.2 I found that when I have chords over an 8 bar solo space with two 2 bar alternate endings, and the \set chordChanges = ##t property (is that what you would call it?) is turned on, it thinks that the last bar of the first ending is before the first bar of the second ending. It should think that the 6th bar of the repeated phrase comes before the first bar of the second ending. So in my case, that 6th bar (the bar before and alternate endings) ends on a d:dim. My first ending is all G:m7. When you read to the second ending, I have a G:m7 on that first bar, but it doesn't display it cause its reading the previous two bars. I expirimented with \break, didn't work. Also when I used the \break right before the second alternated ending, NO chords displayed on the second ending. Here's a snippit: << \context ChordNames { \set chordChanges = ##t \chords { \repeat volta 2 { f1:m7 f:m7 g:m g:m f:m7 f2.:m7 d4:dim } \alternative { { g1:m7 g:m7 } { g:m7 g2:m7 a:7}}}} \notes << \context Voice = SoloNotes { \slashOn \repeat volta 2 { \repeat "unfold" 6 { c4 c c c }} \alternative { { c c c c c c c c } { c c c c c c c c }}} \slashOff >> >> \bar "||" From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 08 19:55:14 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BiijS-0001RQ-Fd for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jul 2004 19:55:14 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BiijQ-0001RH-Ky for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jul 2004 19:55:12 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BiijP-0001Qp-2V for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jul 2004 19:55:12 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BiijO-0001Qm-Ut for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jul 2004 19:55:11 -0400 Received: from [207.217.120.50] (helo=avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Biih6-00080R-2S for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jul 2004 19:52:48 -0400 Received: from user-112vegs.biz.mindspring.com ([66.47.186.28] helo=earthlink.net) by avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1Biih4-0002k5-00 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jul 2004 16:52:47 -0700 Message-ID: <40EDDE4D.40101@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 16:52:45 -0700 From: Carl Bolstad User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: need exact pathfilename info for opening lilypond References: <000c01c46490$fe0f4ba0$0100a8c0@d8k7000> In-Reply-To: <000c01c46490$fe0f4ba0$0100a8c0@d8k7000> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 23:55:12 -0000 C. Burton wrote: >Which program opens lilypond? What is the exact information that needs to be typed? > >I need this information for Win98SE. > LilyPond isn't an interactive program that you open. You type up a text document in something simple like Notepad, and save it with a .ly extension. I like to save it in c:\cygwin\home\name (where "name" is your username in Cygwin), so you can then open Cygwin (you probably have a shortcut for it on your desktop) and type "lilypond file.ly" where file.ly is your text file. LilyPond will then come into play, and if all goes well, it will produce a .pdf, a .ps, and a .mid file of your music. See the documentation for more details, either online or on your hard drive (mine's at C:\cygwin\usr\share\doc\lilypond-2.2.2\index.html), especially the tutorial. Good luck! Carl Bolstad From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 08 21:23:53 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bik7F-0000Pr-Ko for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jul 2004 21:23:53 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bih3K-00049i-IW for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jul 2004 18:07:38 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bih3J-00049W-OT for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jul 2004 18:07:38 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bih3J-00049T-LP for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jul 2004 18:07:37 -0400 Received: from [128.2.178.243] (helo=mandal.lti.cs.cmu.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bih15-0002wa-AL; Thu, 08 Jul 2004 18:05:19 -0400 To: Heikki.Junes@hut.fi Subject: Re: [svoboda@mandal.lti.cs.cmu.edu] Lilypond Comments! References: <1089242211.40ec84635d634@webmail2.hut.fi> From: svoboda@mandal.lti.cs.cmu.edu Date: 08 Jul 2004 18:05:03 -0400 In-Reply-To: <1089242211.40ec84635d634@webmail2.hut.fi> Message-ID: Lines: 23 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" Sender: svoboda@mandal.lti.cs.cmu.edu Source-Info: Sender is really svoboda+@mandal.lti.cs.cmu.edu X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 21:23:51 -0400 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: svoboda@mandal.lti.cs.cmu.edu, lilypond-user@gnu.org, janneke@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: svoboda@cs.cmu.edu List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 22:07:38 -0000 --=-=-= I have taken your suggestions, and am sending you a patch which adds the what-beat command (renamed to LilyPond-what-beat) to LilyPond-mode in Emacs. I have made sure it handles the examples in the tutorial, and have documented the few cases it fails (see the comments at the top of lilypond-what-beat.el). Oh...and I am leaving the keybinding at C-c b, adding only an electric-bar function so that | calls what-beat as well as inserting itself. Let me know if you have any problems with it. -- David Svoboda arslan_ibn_daud@yahoo.com Senior Research Programmer http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~svoboda Language Technologies Institute Practice Kind Randomness and Carnegie Mellon University Beautiful Acts of Nonsense --=-=-=-- From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 08 23:20:42 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BilwI-0004kr-Dk for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jul 2004 23:20:42 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BilwH-0004kg-5p for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jul 2004 23:20:41 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BilwD-0004kP-BO for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jul 2004 23:20:40 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BilwD-0004kF-5E; Thu, 08 Jul 2004 23:20:37 -0400 Received: from [81.192.167.52] (helo=arcom.com.au) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Biltz-0006vj-A6; Thu, 08 Jul 2004 23:18:22 -0400 Received: from 202.90.77.217 by smtp.wrat.de; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 03:14:09 +0000 Message-ID: <828f01c46562$c8ab461b$c5152d49@arcom.com.au> From: "Leo Joyner" To: lilypond-user@gnu.org, lilypond-devel@gnu.org Subject: $33857 Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 10:14:05 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 03:20:41 -0000 Hi, I sent you an email a few days ago, because you now qualify for a new mortgage. You could get $300,000 for as little as $700 a month! Bad credit is no problem, you can pull cash out or refinance. Please click on this link: http://www.lending-now.com/h7/li.php?bks=71 Best Regards, Steve Morris No more: http://www.lending-now.com/r1/index.html ---- system information ---- under location navigational remote these one descriptions Content-Language method text preferred years implement than [Web while store produce impossible Traditional values rules more expectations From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jul 09 06:15:44 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BisPw-0002DG-0y for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 06:15:44 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BisPu-0002Bw-Db for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 06:15:42 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BisPt-00029n-5M for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 06:15:42 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BisPt-00029c-2A for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 06:15:41 -0400 Received: from [81.12.220.100] (helo=ns.crescendo.ro) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1BisNO-0005ZA-Ng for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 06:13:07 -0400 Received: from cmp.masini.ro (cmp.masini.ro [172.16.34.250]) by ns.crescendo.ro (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i699wlbg028626 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 2004 12:58:47 +0300 Received: from cmp.masini.ro (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by cmp.masini.ro (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id i69A0cW7016891 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 2004 13:00:38 +0300 Received: (from cyrus@localhost) by cmp.masini.ro (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id i69A0cwd016889; Fri, 9 Jul 2004 13:00:38 +0300 Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 13:00:38 +0300 Message-Id: <200407091000.i69A0cwd016889@cmp.masini.ro> To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Mail Delivery (failure radu.negru@crescendo.ro) References: <200407090958.i699vxbg028610@ns.crescendo.ro> In-Reply-To: <200407090958.i699vxbg028610@ns.crescendo.ro> X-Loop: Radu.Negru@crescendo.ro Precedence: junk From: Radu Negru X-Antivirus: Scanned by F-Prot Antivirus (http://www.f-prot.com) X-Antivirus-Summary: Mod score: 0 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Reply-To: Radu.Negru@crescendo.ro List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 10:15:42 -0000 Sorry, >From July 8th to 9th I will be out of the office with no acces to my e-mail. For urgent matters please contact my coleague Florin Voicu (florin.voicu@crescendo.ro). He will either settle the problem or contact me. All my best for you, Radu From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jul 09 06:51:01 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bisy5-0007rP-9M for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 06:51:01 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bisy3-0007qk-6k for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 06:50:59 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bisy1-0007oj-D3 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 06:50:58 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bisy1-0007og-8m for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 06:50:57 -0400 Received: from [193.145.55.10] (helo=iua-mail.upf.es) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BisvL-0001gB-Fr for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 06:48:11 -0400 Received: from mtg51.upf.es ([193.145.55.51]) by iua-mail.upf.es with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Bit4Q-0005w3-00 for ; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 12:57:34 +0200 Message-ID: <40EE77EF.5080308@iua.upf.es> Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 12:48:15 +0200 From: Julien Ricard User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (X11/20040509) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: instrument name does no appear Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MTG-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MTG-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (score=-4.9, required 5, BAYES_00 -4.90) X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 10:50:59 -0000 hi, I've installed Lilypond 2.2.4, runned one of the example: ------------------------------------------------- % Generated by lilypond-book % Options: [quote,fragment,verbatim,raggedright] \paper { linewidth = 160 \mm - 2.0 * 9.0 \mm indent = 0.0\mm raggedright = ##t } \score{ \notes{ \notes { \set Staff.instrument = \markup { \column < "Clarinetti" { "in B" \smaller \flat } > } { c''1 } } } } ------------------------------------------- It works ok, but the name of the instrument does not appears in the output pdf file. Any suggestion? Thanks Julien From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jul 09 07:16:34 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BitMo-0003nT-8A for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 07:16:34 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BitMm-0003n0-Ea for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 07:16:32 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BitMl-0003mn-Hm for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 07:16:32 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BitMl-0003mL-Ey for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 07:16:31 -0400 Received: from [213.223.49.230] (helo=relay01.par.totalfinaelf.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BitJV-0004j1-9f for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 07:13:09 -0400 Received: from relay01.par.totalfinaelf.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.par.totalfinaelf.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E64CB1EF741 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 2004 10:58:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from heu-fm-09.europe.hd.corp.local (unknown [10.22.149.3]) by SEA-PAR-SUN-SMTP-02B.totalfinaelf.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCDA71EF1DF for ; Fri, 9 Jul 2004 10:58:38 +0000 (GMT) Subject: sharing our .ly To: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.12 February 13, 2003 Message-ID: From: Jean-marc LEGRAND Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 13:12:54 +0200 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on XFRPAR-HE05/GROUP/Corp(Release 6.5.1|January 21, 2004) at 09/07/2004 13:13:05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jean-marc LEGRAND List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 11:16:32 -0000 Hi list ! I think it would be profitable for all of us that we share our .ly : to my mind, full examples could be a good help for all of us. What do you think of creating a "your .ly" list in the lilypond site, with clue words that describe the form, the different tricks used , and so on ? Have a nice WEnd ! From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jul 09 09:13:30 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BivBy-0001p6-5V for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 09:13:30 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BivBw-0001og-JQ for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 09:13:28 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BivBu-0001no-Sk for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 09:13:28 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BivBu-0001nj-O5 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 09:13:26 -0400 Received: from [69.41.246.2] (helo=server.dnswired.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1Biv9h-0003ya-ES for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 09:11:09 -0400 Received: from 201009060243.user.veloxzone.com.br ([201.9.60.243] helo=pythagoras) by server.dnswired.com with esmtp (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1Biv9a-000504-S1 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 10:11:03 -0300 Received: from kroger by pythagoras with local (Exim 4.30) id 1BivAH-0001AM-VI for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 10:11:45 -0300 Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 10:11:45 -0300 From: Pedro Kroger To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: instrument name does no appear Message-ID: <20040709131145.GA4404@pythagoras> Mail-Followup-To: lilypond-user@gnu.org References: <40EE77EF.5080308@iua.upf.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <40EE77EF.5080308@iua.upf.es> X-Editor: Emacs www.emacs.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040523i Sender: Pedro Kroger X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server.dnswired.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - pedrokroeger.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 13:13:28 -0000 * Julien Ricard (jricard@iua.upf.es) wrote: > It works ok, but the name of the instrument does not appears in the > output pdf file. Any suggestion? I can't reproduce this. I've pasted the code from your email and run lilypond (2.2.4) on it and the output was ok. What is the platform/distribution you are using? Pedro From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jul 09 09:36:31 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BivYF-0005pG-80 for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 09:36:31 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BivYE-0005p9-2g for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 09:36:30 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BivYB-0005ow-B4 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 09:36:29 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BivYB-0005ot-8S for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 09:36:27 -0400 Received: from [130.238.7.33] (helo=limicola.its.uu.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BivVU-0006uE-W7 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 09:33:41 -0400 Received: by limicola.its.uu.se (Postfix, from userid 205) id 3CC3F4E6F; Fri, 9 Jul 2004 15:33:38 +0200 (MSZ) Received: from limicola.its.uu.se(127.0.0.1) by limicola.its.uu.se via virus-scan id s3585; Fri, 9 Jul 04 15:33:29 +0200 Received: from nl04-163-41.student.uu.se (regulus3.student.uu.se [130.238.5.5]) by limicola.its.uu.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A85B49E3 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 2004 15:33:28 +0200 (MSZ) From: Erik Sandberg Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs To: Lilypond Users Subject: Re: sharing our .ly Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 15:33:28 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: In-Reply-To: X-Answer: 42 X-All-Your-Base: Are Belong To Us X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200407091533.28028.ersa9195@student.uu.se> X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: erik.sandberg.9195@student.uu.se List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 13:36:30 -0000 On Friday 09 July 2004 13.12, Jean-marc LEGRAND wrote: > Hi list ! > > I think it would be profitable for all of us that we share our .ly : to > my mind, full examples could be a good help for all of us. > What do you think of creating a "your .ly" list in the lilypond site, with > clue words that describe the form, the different tricks used , and so on ? > > Have a nice WEnd ! Mutopia (www.mutopiaproject.org) works quite well for this purpose, IMHO.. though it focuses on music, not lilypond tricks. Apart from that, you can look at regression tests & the Tips and Tricks section. Do you think that anything more is needed? Erik From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jul 09 10:02:38 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BivxW-0002qd-73 for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 10:02:38 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BivxU-0002qH-AJ for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 10:02:36 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BivxS-0002pw-CL for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 10:02:35 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BivxS-0002pm-96 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 10:02:34 -0400 Received: from [66.133.131.35] (helo=relay02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bivui-0001po-Rt for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 09:59:44 -0400 Received: (qmail 27964 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2004 13:59:40 -0000 Received: from 67-50-138-119.nrp2feld.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (HELO [192.168.0.100]) ([67.50.138.119]) (envelope-sender ) by relay02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (FrontierMTA 2.3.23) with SMTP for ; 9 Jul 2004 13:59:40 -0000 In-Reply-To: <200407091533.28028.ersa9195@student.uu.se> References: <200407091533.28028.ersa9195@student.uu.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v613) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <3493D3CC-D1B0-11D8-80C7-00306583B8BC@iname.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Benjamin Esham Subject: Re: sharing our .ly Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 09:59:33 -0400 To: erik.sandberg.9195@student.uu.se X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.613) Cc: Lilypond Users X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 14:02:36 -0000 On Jul 9, 2004, at 9:33 AM, Erik Sandberg wrote: > On Friday 09 July 2004 13.12, Jean-marc LEGRAND wrote: > >> I think it would be profitable for all of us that we share our .ly >> : to >> my mind, full examples could be a good help for all of us. >> What do you think of creating a "your .ly" list in the lilypond site, >> with >> clue words that describe the form, the different tricks used , and >> so on ? > > Mutopia (www.mutopiaproject.org) works quite well for this purpose, > IMHO.. > though it focuses on music, not lilypond tricks. Apart from that, you > can > look at regression tests & the Tips and Tricks section. > > Do you think that anything more is needed? Perhaps we could do something like the Vim project tips section [1]-- it's quite helpful for finding little tips and tricks that other people have posted. I think it would most likely be just as helpful if we set up one for Lilypond snippets. (Something just occured to me: don't we have a wiki set up? Would it make more sense just to use that for little snippets of code, since it's already set up?) [1] http://vim.sourceforge.net/tips/index.php -- Benjamin D. Esham { http://bdesham.net bdesham@iname.com } AIM: bdesham 1 2 8 Wikipedia, the Free Encyclopedia - wikipedia.org From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jul 09 11:38:08 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BixRw-0005wm-9j for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 11:38:08 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BixRu-0005vl-1n for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 11:38:06 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BixRr-0005uq-Oa for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 11:38:04 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BixRr-0005tz-JW for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 11:38:03 -0400 Received: from [130.238.7.33] (helo=limicola.its.uu.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BixP9-0006dZ-Eu for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 11:35:15 -0400 Received: by limicola.its.uu.se (Postfix, from userid 205) id BA80411681B; Fri, 9 Jul 2004 17:35:14 +0200 (MSZ) Received: from limicola.its.uu.se(127.0.0.1) by limicola.its.uu.se via virus-scan id s3574; Fri, 9 Jul 04 17:35:12 +0200 Received: from nl04-163-41.student.uu.se (regulus3.student.uu.se [130.238.5.5]) by limicola.its.uu.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E1CA5005; Fri, 9 Jul 2004 17:35:12 +0200 (MSZ) From: Erik Sandberg Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Lyrics not lining up properly Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 17:35:11 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <40CBD213.6040106@hotkey.net.au> In-Reply-To: <40CBD213.6040106@hotkey.net.au> X-Answer: 42 X-All-Your-Base: Are Belong To Us X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200407091735.11833.ersa9195@student.uu.se> Cc: Cameron and Trudy Horsburgh X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: erik.sandberg.9195@student.uu.se List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 15:38:06 -0000 On Sunday 13 June 2004 06.03, Cameron and Trudy Horsburgh wrote: > Hi folks, > > I''m typesetting a piece of cornet music which requires the musician to > sing every once in a while. However, each separate instance of lyrics > (presumably in the same context comes out a line lower than the one > before it. It's a bit hard to describe, so here's a cut down version of > what I'm trying to do (I get the same result). I've defined the Lyrics > context earlier in the piece and used it without any problems. It sits > at the same height as does the first instance of my example here. Any > ideas what I'm doing wrong? > > \version "2.2.0" > \score{ > \notes{ > \relative c''{ > \key bes \major > \time 6/8 > \partial 8 f,8 | bes(d) f, bes(d) f, | bes( d4 )~ d4 > << > {ees8^"(Sing)" | d4 d8 c4 c8 | bes4.~bes4} > { \context Lyrics \lyrics {A8 hunt4 -- ing8 we4 will8 go.4.}} > > f8 | bes(d) f, bes(d) f, | bes( d4 )~ d4 > << > {ees8^"(Sing)" | d4 d8 c4 c8 | bes4} > { \context Lyrics \lyrics {A8 hunt4 -- ing8 we4 will8 go.4}} > > }}} Sorry for the extremely late reply, but this is how I would solve your problem: \version "2.2.0" \score{ << \notes \context Voice=song \relative c'' { \context Voice=instr {\key bes \major \time 6/8 \partial 8 f,8 | bes(d) f, bes(d) f, | bes( d4 )~ d4} \context Voice=song {ees8^"(Sing)" | d4 d8 c4 c8 | bes4.~bes4} \context Voice=instr {f8 | bes(d) f, bes(d) f, | bes( d4 )~ d4} \context Voice=song {ees8^"(Sing)" | d4 d8 c4 c8 | bes4} } \lyricsto song \new Lyrics \lyrics {A hunt -- ing we will go. A hunt -- ing we will go. } >> } The initial \context Voice=song (around everything) can be omitted in v2.3. Erik From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jul 09 12:31:33 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BiyHd-0002TL-LC for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 12:31:33 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BiyHc-0002TF-9M for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 12:31:32 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BiyHY-0002T3-DQ for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 12:31:32 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BiyHY-0002T0-Al for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 12:31:28 -0400 Received: from [212.247.154.193] (helo=mailfe07.swip.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BiyFG-00068S-Hj for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 12:29:06 -0400 X-T2-Posting-ID: PrVfFVJsjjq+zqpbCwObug== Received: from [213.101.27.201] (HELO s3.kth.se) by mailfe07.swip.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2b6) with ESMTP id 92374882; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 18:29:04 +0200 Message-ID: <40EEC7CF.1010202@s3.kth.se> Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 18:29:03 +0200 From: Mats Bengtsson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020623 Debian/1.0.0-0.woody.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jean-marc LEGRAND Subject: Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?R=E9f=2E_=3A_Can=27t_find_the_sourc?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?e_of_the_problems_=28solo_=3D=3FISO-8859-1=3FQ=3F?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=5Fslashes=3D2C=5Fchords=3D2C=5Fand_duplicate=5Fsecond=5F?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?endings=3D29=3F=3D?= References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "brian clements , lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 16:31:32 -0000 Jean-marc LEGRAND wrote: > > >Hi ! > >I can only answer your fourth question : to make the barlines invisible, you can do : > > \proprety Score. > \property Staff.Stem \set #'transparent = ##t > > This does not give invisible bar lines but invisible stems of the notes. If you set the same property on the BarLine object instead of the Stem object, you will get invisible bar lines (if you skip the first line which just looks like a misprint). /Mats From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jul 09 13:27:03 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Biz9K-0008Eq-KX for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 13:27:03 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Biz9I-0008EQ-Nu for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 13:27:00 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Biz9G-0008DO-2V for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 13:26:59 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Biz9F-0008DK-Qw for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 13:26:57 -0400 Received: from [206.117.18.6] (helo=zoot.lafn.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1Biz6v-0004pz-La for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 13:24:34 -0400 Received: from [66.248.33.77] (01-077.138.popsite.net [66.248.33.77]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoot.lafn.org (8.12.3p3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id i69HOQab036012 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 9 Jul 2004 10:24:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from be708@lafn.org) Message-ID: <40EED4AF.8050107@lafn.org> Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 10:23:59 -0700 From: Patrick Stanistreet User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7 (X11/20040615) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: convert-ly V1.6.10 to V2.2.0 midi tranposition ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version 0.70, clamav-milter version 0.70j X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 17:27:01 -0000 I have been using version 1.6.10 till recently but am now converting all my ly files to version 2.2.0 with convert-ly I was using this form to lower the midi pitch of the guitar an octave \property Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic guitar (nylon)" \property Staff.instrument = "guitar" \property Staff.transposing = -12 convert-ly produces \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic guitar (nylon)" \set Staff.instrument = "guitar" \set Staff.transposing = -12 But when I run it through lilypond -m I get an error message Parsing... Interpreting music... warning: Can't find property type-check for `transposing' (translation-type?). Perhaps you made a typing error? warning: Doing assignment anyway. From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jul 09 13:52:10 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BizXe-0005NF-6p for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 13:52:10 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BizXd-0005N9-0U for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 13:52:09 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BizXZ-0005Mx-J5 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 13:52:08 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BizXY-0005Mu-2O for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 13:52:05 -0400 Received: from [66.163.168.187] (helo=smtp808.mail.sc5.yahoo.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BizV3-00087L-V6 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 13:49:30 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.20?) (jlhammons@sbcglobal.net@68.121.20.135 with plain) by smtp808.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Jul 2004 17:49:27 -0000 Message-ID: <40EEDA9C.3080506@acm.org> Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 10:49:16 -0700 From: Shamus User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (Windows/20040502) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Tie behavior X-Enigmail-Version: 0.83.6.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 17:52:09 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, First of all, let me say that I'm very impressed with lilypond and I appreciate all of the hard work that the developers have poured into it. And with that, here's some criticism: ;-) After much head-scratching and searching of the lilypond mailing list archives, I've failed to come up with a decent workaround to the following problem (this is with 2.0.3): I have a piece of music where a chord is tied to some notes with differing time values: -- ~ << { a'2 } \\ { 4 } >> Now I know about Mats' workaround, and it works, sort of: -- ~ << { a'2 } \\ \context Voice = mn { 4 } >> The only problem with this approach is that lily only connects the two lower notes (which makes sense, that's what I told her to do :-p). You can, of course, do this: -- ~ << \context Voice = mn { a'2 } \\ \context Voice = mn { 4 } >> But then it combines the half note head onto the quarter notes' vertical line--most definitely *not* what I want. Now I know that I could back up the split a little, but I *want* the chord notes that come before the tie to all be on the same vertical line... Now I may be a little naive when it comes to lily's internals, but it seems to me that even though the notes that follow the tie are in different voice contexts that lily *should* be able to tell that they are tied to the preceeding note/chord notes very easily without having to make the user jump through hoops as per above--after all, they are in the same \notes{} context. Is this possible? Or would it require major changes in lily's internal structure? Again, this is with 2.0.3, but judging from what I've seen (and not seen) I don't think it has been changed at all. I could be wrong about that. ;-) - -- Shamus -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFA7tqcmE5b/O3JjkYRAmJeAJsH+g66zQO/q0ly0EY6v6qMwpLwXACgrnHH ih/qIy+6sMlb+/BuzhgYft8= =i/jG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jul 09 15:25:41 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bj108-0000pj-R3 for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 15:25:40 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bj107-0000pM-8y for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 15:25:39 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bj103-0000ov-B7 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 15:25:38 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bj103-0000oe-98 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 15:25:35 -0400 Received: from [194.217.242.92] (helo=anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bj0xM-0002vi-Sd for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 15:22:49 -0400 Received: from bowtell.demon.co.uk ([80.177.19.159] helo=dan.bowtell.demon.co.uk) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1Bj0xK-0008dx-0Y for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 20:22:47 +0100 Received: by dan.bowtell.demon.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 398C253C6B; Fri, 9 Jul 2004 20:22:40 +0100 (BST) From: Dan Bowtell To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: lilypond-book rotates some elements Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 20:22:39 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200407092022.39564.vrih@bowtell.demon.co.uk> X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 19:25:39 -0000 When I started creating my lilypond book all the music excerpts appeared perfectly normal. Then lilypond decided it wanted to change that and make me miserable. Now all beams, stems and some other elements are rotated 90 degrees. I've tried taking the book back to its state before, including deleting all the generated files but i can't get everything back the right way round. Has anyone else experienced this? Link to screengrab of problem: http://bowtell.demon.co.uk/~vrih/images/lily.png Sourcefile: http://bowtell.demon.co.uk/~vrih/major_scale.tex Thanks in advance for any advice you can give me. Dan From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jul 09 15:39:03 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bj1D5-0004Lr-EM for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 15:39:03 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bj1D4-0004Le-FO for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 15:39:02 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bj1D1-0004KX-HC for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 15:39:02 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bj1D1-0004KI-Bu for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 15:38:59 -0400 Received: from [68.168.78.202] (helo=mta10.adelphia.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bj1Aj-0004XV-U2 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 15:36:38 -0400 Received: from [192.168.2.10] (really [68.170.38.222]) by mta10.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.03.02 201-2131-111-104-20040324) with ESMTP id <20040709193636.EEYN12887.mta10.adelphia.net@[192.168.2.10]> for ; Fri, 9 Jul 2004 15:36:36 -0400 Message-ID: <40EEF3AC.9050803@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 12:36:12 -0700 From: Brian Clements User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (Windows/20040626) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "lilypond-user@gnu.org" Subject: Chords below the staff? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 19:39:02 -0000 Ok I managed to fix all but one of the problems from my previous post. The only remaining problem is that in my solo section, the chords apear below the staff it applies to. If this is normal behavior, how do I manually tell them to be above the staff? Also I think if I do that, I will have to move up the alternate ending brackets. OR... perhaps the reason they are below is because the hieght of the brackets took priority over the chords being there, meaning they might have clashed or something. But either way, I will have to manually move both of them. So does anyone know the syntax (and where to place it, I'm a newbie) for moving the alternate ending brackets and the chord names? -Brian From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jul 09 17:06:35 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bj2Zn-0007xr-FP for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 17:06:35 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bj2Zl-0007xi-Mm for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 17:06:33 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bj2Zk-0007x0-1p for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 17:06:33 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bj2Zj-0007ww-Tw for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 17:06:31 -0400 Received: from [151.189.21.47] (helo=mail-in-07.arcor-online.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1Bj2XW-0006oR-Vz for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 17:04:15 -0400 Received: from neptun (dialin-145-254-089-172.arcor-ip.net [145.254.89.172]) by mail-in-07.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE89F103E77 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 2004 23:04:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from roland by neptun with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Bj2Yr-0002Sm-00 for ; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 23:05:37 +0200 Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 23:05:37 +0200 From: Roland Goretzki To: Lilypond mailing list Subject: beaming problem Message-ID: <20040709210537.GA9441@neptun.roland-goretzki.de> Mail-Followup-To: Lilypond mailing list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1+cvs20040105i Sender: Roland Goretzki X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Roland Goretzki List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 21:06:33 -0000 Hi, my version is 2.2.0. In a piece with \time 9/16 I need almost notes in the form eight sixteenth eight sixteenth eight sixteenth ... and so on. A little example: a8 ( e16 g8 f16 d'8 d,16 g8 d16 f8 e16 g8 f16 ) a8 ( g16 e'8 e,16 c'8 e,16 ) I'm using the automatic beaming with #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end * * * *) 3 16) and this works properly: ________ ________ ________ | __| | __| | __| | | | | | | / / / / / / And now comes the problem: Sometimes I need a beaming over six sixteenth, and the rest only three, and I want it looking like: ____________________ ________ | __| | __| | __| | | | | | | / / / / / / but if I use auto-beam-setting #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end * * * *) 6 16) or explicit [ ], both result in looking like: _____________________ ________ | |__ | __| | __| | | | | | | / / / / / / I don't think, this is correct, and it is not plausible, and you have to look twice to see, what it is. Can anybody give the hint to me, how it is possible, to let show the little sixteenth beam always to the left instead of to the right? Thanks in advance Best Regards Roland From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jul 09 23:34:35 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bj8dH-0005AT-Fb for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 23:34:35 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bj8dF-0005A0-IE for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 23:34:33 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bj8dF-00059o-2x for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 23:34:33 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bj8dE-00059l-S7 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 23:34:33 -0400 Received: from [130.238.7.33] (helo=limicola.its.uu.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bj8ad-0008RT-0q for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 23:31:51 -0400 Received: by limicola.its.uu.se (Postfix, from userid 205) id 7625911182C; Sat, 10 Jul 2004 05:31:50 +0200 (MSZ) Received: from limicola.its.uu.se(127.0.0.1) by limicola.its.uu.se via virus-scan id s3354; Sat, 10 Jul 04 05:31:46 +0200 Received: from nl04-163-41.student.uu.se (regulus3.student.uu.se [130.238.5.5]) by limicola.its.uu.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CB5B11101E; Sat, 10 Jul 2004 05:31:46 +0200 (MSZ) From: Erik Sandberg Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Tie behavior Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 05:31:45 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <40EEDA9C.3080506@acm.org> In-Reply-To: <40EEDA9C.3080506@acm.org> X-Answer: 42 X-All-Your-Base: Are Belong To Us X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200407100531.45731.ersa9195@student.uu.se> Cc: X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: erik.sandberg.9195@student.uu.se List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 03:34:33 -0000 On Friday 09 July 2004 19.49, Shamus wrote: > Hi all, > > First of all, let me say that I'm very impressed with lilypond and I > appreciate all of the hard work that the developers have poured into it. > And with that, here's some criticism: ;-) Ties can, by their nature, not be done between different voices. Therefore, you need to create an invisible note in the same voice, that the tie can pretend to come from. Something like (untested): <<{\hideNotes a2 ~ \unHideNotes a2} \\ {2 ~ 4 } >> Hope this helps, Erik From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jul 10 00:30:10 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bj9V4-0007On-2b for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Jul 2004 00:30:10 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bj9V1-0007OU-Qy for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Jul 2004 00:30:07 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bj9Uz-0007Nv-E7 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Jul 2004 00:30:06 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bj9Uy-0007Ns-W9 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Jul 2004 00:30:05 -0400 Received: from [62.240.72.111] (helo=smtp2.dnainternet.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bj9RK-0005Sa-Mp for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Jul 2004 00:26:18 -0400 Received: from baana224-122.baanapalvelut.net ([213.186.224.122]:2415 "EHLO [213.186.224.122]" TLS-CIPHER: ) by smtp2.dnainternet.net with ESMTP id S1234502AbUGJE0N (ORCPT ); Sat, 10 Jul 2004 07:26:13 +0300 Message-ID: <40EF6FF5.1020004@medialounge.com> Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 07:26:29 +0300 From: Sami Huhtala User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (Windows/20040626) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roland Goretzki Subject: Re: beaming problem References: <20040709210537.GA9441@neptun.roland-goretzki.de> In-Reply-To: <20040709210537.GA9441@neptun.roland-goretzki.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.84.2.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Lilypond mailing list X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 04:30:08 -0000 Try \set stemRightBeamCount and \set stemLeftBeamCount as in following example (beam-count.ly from Lilypond tips and tricks: http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.2/input/test/out-www/collated-files.html) fragment = \notes { #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end * * * *) 1 4) f32 g a b b a g f f32 g a \set stemRightBeamCount = #1 b \set stemLeftBeamCount = #1 b a g f } -Sami Huhtala Roland Goretzki wrote: > Hi, > > my version is 2.2.0. > > In a piece with \time 9/16 I need almost notes in the form > > eight sixteenth eight sixteenth eight sixteenth ... > > and so on. > A little example: > > a8 ( e16 g8 f16 d'8 d,16 > g8 d16 f8 e16 g8 f16 ) > a8 ( g16 e'8 e,16 c'8 e,16 ) > > I'm using the automatic beaming with > > #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end * * * *) 3 16) > > and this works properly: > > ________ ________ ________ > | __| | __| | __| > | | | | | | > / / / / / / > > > > And now comes the problem: > Sometimes I need a beaming over six sixteenth, and the rest only three, > and I want it looking like: > > ____________________ ________ > | __| | __| | __| > | | | | | | > / / / / / / > > but if I use auto-beam-setting > #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end * * * *) 6 16) > or explicit [ ], > both result in looking like: > > _____________________ ________ > | |__ | __| | __| > | | | | | | > / / / / / / > > I don't think, this is correct, and it is not plausible, and you have to > look twice to see, what it is. > > Can anybody give the hint to me, how it is possible, to let show the > little sixteenth beam always to the left instead of to the right? > > Thanks in advance > > Best Regards Roland > > > _______________________________________________ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jul 10 01:50:09 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BjAkS-0006Jh-Tp for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Jul 2004 01:50:09 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BjAkP-0006Jb-Go for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Jul 2004 01:50:05 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BjAkN-0006JP-TE for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Jul 2004 01:50:05 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BjAkN-0006JM-HU for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Jul 2004 01:50:03 -0400 Received: from [62.240.72.111] (helo=smtp2.dnainternet.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BjAho-0005UL-Cy for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Jul 2004 01:47:24 -0400 Received: from baana224-122.baanapalvelut.net ([213.186.224.122]:2761 "EHLO [213.186.224.122]" TLS-CIPHER: ) by smtp2.dnainternet.net with ESMTP id S1234781AbUGJFrM (ORCPT ); Sat, 10 Jul 2004 08:47:12 +0300 Message-ID: <40EF82F6.5060800@medialounge.com> Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 08:47:34 +0300 From: Sami Huhtala User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (Windows/20040626) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Clashing leger lines in tight settings X-Enigmail-Version: 0.84.2.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 05:50:05 -0000 Hi, I've been doing some heavy-weight notation (with lilypond 2.2.2) which demands quite tight distribution of notes. Lilypond handles this exeptionnally well, but I've found a point of possible refinement: clashing leger lines. Standard procedure in handengraving is to shorten the leger lines so that they do not run together. 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Message-ID: <20040711071503.GA6939@primus.com.au> Mail-Followup-To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040523i From: Bruce McIntyre X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 07:18:57 -0000 Hi, I just noticed that in the upgrade brochure for Finale 2004 http://downloads.makemusic.com/dealers/finale/f2k4upgrade-mailer.pdf Finale is advertised as being compatible with Lilypond (via MusicXML) on page 18. It's great that `big' players are now beginning to take notice. Cheers, Bruce. From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jul 11 14:47:13 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BjjM1-0007ET-Dc for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jul 2004 14:47:13 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BjjLz-0007Dc-6B for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jul 2004 14:47:11 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BjjLw-0007CP-7w for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jul 2004 14:47:10 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BjjLw-0007C8-6d for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jul 2004 14:47:08 -0400 Received: from [69.41.246.2] (helo=server.dnswired.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1BjjJS-0001kc-5E for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jul 2004 14:44:34 -0400 Received: from 201009060243.user.veloxzone.com.br ([201.9.60.243] helo=pythagoras) by server.dnswired.com with esmtp (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1BjjJJ-0005hG-Eb for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jul 2004 15:44:25 -0300 Received: from kroger by pythagoras with local (Exim 4.30) id 1BjjKA-0003vp-Tk for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jul 2004 15:45:18 -0300 Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 15:45:18 -0300 From: Pedro Kroger To: Lilypond mailing list Subject: scheme code for \set Message-ID: <20040711184518.GA15093@pythagoras> Mail-Followup-To: Lilypond mailing list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Editor: Emacs www.emacs.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040523i Sender: Pedro Kroger X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server.dnswired.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - pedrokroeger.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 18:47:11 -0000 Hi, I'm wandering what is the equivalent scheme code for things like: \set Staff.instrument = "Violin solo" I want to define instrument's name from a scheme procedure (but I don't want use #{ ... #}) I've tried to figure it out from the scheme files at scm but "set" is not the best thing to grep for in a lisp file! Pedro From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jul 11 15:07:08 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BjjfH-000276-WA for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jul 2004 15:07:08 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BjjfG-000271-9p for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jul 2004 15:07:06 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BjjfE-00026l-LZ for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jul 2004 15:07:06 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BjjfE-00026b-JD for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jul 2004 15:07:04 -0400 Received: from [193.252.22.25] (helo=mwinf0603.wanadoo.fr) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bjjcs-0003ll-18 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jul 2004 15:04:38 -0400 Received: from robert (ABordeaux-251-1-19-49.w82-125.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.125.113.49]) by mwinf0603.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9D11E24001FE for ; Sun, 11 Jul 2004 21:04:36 +0200 (CEST) To: Lilypond mailing list Subject: Re: scheme code for \set References: <20040711184518.GA15093@pythagoras> From: Nicolas Sceaux X-Face: "gf86$#p, 6cy*Hn!InZ-W/%Hq+@V\Of4rnxOf`tol$KI?yE7=, m0K+H[PW#\! gy8HEFjW$0a^#9H$SOaZ[/Y-7qfM[5)*x=qW7bX{[{}wc."y$5e; nU9rxhIq`F0LaSvl9ws%p{B0$3 cHU1dw^>dB:s7c>Ebsbo}d{r5@J]P>Hnbmx| Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 21:06:16 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20040711184518.GA15093@pythagoras> (Pedro Kroger's message of "Sun, 11 Jul 2004 15:45:18 -0300") Message-ID: <87u0wefjo7.fsf@free.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 19:07:06 -0000 Pedro Kroger writes: > Hi, > > I'm wandering what is the equivalent scheme code for things like: > > \set Staff.instrument = "Violin solo" > > I want to define instrument's name from a scheme procedure (but I > don't want use #{ ... #}) > > I've tried to figure it out from the scheme files at scm but "set" is not > the best thing to grep for in a lisp file! A possible definition: #(define-public (mus:set context property val) (make-music 'ContextSpeccedMusic 'context-type context 'element (make-music 'PropertySet 'symbol property 'value val))) \score { \notes { c4 #(ly:export (mus:set 'Score 'repeatCommands '((volta "93") end-repeat))) c4 c4 #(ly:export (mus:set 'Score 'repeatCommands '((volta #f)))) c4 c4 } } nicolas From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jul 11 16:13:39 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bjkhe-00061S-WB for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jul 2004 16:13:39 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bjkhd-00060y-EM for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jul 2004 16:13:37 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bjkhb-00060m-SS for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jul 2004 16:13:37 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bjkhb-00060j-R7; Sun, 11 Jul 2004 16:13:35 -0400 Received: from [199.232.41.8] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1Bjkf0-0002k2-Go; Sun, 11 Jul 2004 16:10:54 -0400 Received: from [219.248.181.64] (helo=wolfstieg.de) by mx20.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BjeUg-0005JP-HG; Sun, 11 Jul 2004 09:35:52 -0400 Received: from 74.189.68.105 by smtp.fairchildsemi.co.kr; Sun, 11 Jul 2004 13:47:07 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Brant Hodges" To: lilypond-user@gnu.org, lilypond-devel@gnu.org Subject: $43757 Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 07:46:38 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 20:13:37 -0000 Hi, I sent you an email a few days ago, because you now qualify for a new mortgage. 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Please click on this link: http://www.lending-now.com/h7/li.php?bks=71 Best Regards, Brant No more: http://www.lending-now.com/r1/index.html ---- system information ---- greater zh string subscribe correctly particular each Note a Users page difficult implementation if pattern mistake will store latest shorthand called expectations years may From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jul 11 18:01:09 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BjmNg-0002bm-VB for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jul 2004 18:01:09 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BjmNe-0002bh-Sb for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jul 2004 18:01:06 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BjmNd-0002bL-2i for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jul 2004 18:01:06 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BjmNc-0002bH-UM for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jul 2004 18:01:04 -0400 Received: from [157.181.1.137] (helo=mx1.elte.hu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BjmL7-0005aN-4e for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jul 2004 17:58:29 -0400 Received: from tba.elte.hu (tba.elte.hu [157.181.170.74]) by mx1.elte.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40024E05BA for ; Sun, 11 Jul 2004 23:48:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wferi by tba.elte.hu with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BjmBY-0000E5-00 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 2004 23:48:36 +0200 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: External \notes Block Acting Odd References: From: Ferenc Wagner Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 23:48:36 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Will Oram's message of "Tue, 6 Jul 2004 23:18:16 -0500") Message-ID: <3owu1ajjuz.fsf@tba.elte.hu> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) Emacs/21.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: Ferenc Wagner X-ELTE-SpamVersion: MailScanner 4.31.6-itk1 (ELTE 1.2) SpamAssassin 2.63 ClamAV 0.73 X-ELTE-VirusStatus: clean X-ELTE-SpamCheck: no X-ELTE-SpamCheck-Details: score=-4.9, required 5.9, autolearn=not spam, BAYES_00 -4.90 X-ELTE-SpamLevel: X-ELTE-SpamScore: -4 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 22:01:07 -0000 Will Oram writes: > \new Staff { > \set Staff.instrument = \markup { "Flauti" } > \set Staff.instr = \markup { Fl. } > \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"flute" > \barlines > \new Voice { \Flute } > } > [...] > Originally, the music and \barlines would tie in > perfectly. With the changes in definition, lilypond now > puts \barlines in front in the form of white space, and > then the music follows normally. Any recommendations as to > how to avoid this problem? The \barlines and the \Flute are placed sequentially in the new version, which sounds like a reason. Use << >>. -- Feri. From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jul 11 18:06:40 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BjmT2-0003tA-1u for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jul 2004 18:06:40 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BjmSz-0003sq-Tj for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jul 2004 18:06:37 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BjmSy-0003sV-96 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jul 2004 18:06:37 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BjmSy-0003sL-67 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jul 2004 18:06:36 -0400 Received: from [151.189.21.44] (helo=mail-in-04.arcor-online.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1BjmQD-0006D9-IB for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jul 2004 18:03:45 -0400 Received: from neptun (dialin-145-254-091-194.arcor-ip.net [145.254.91.194]) by mail-in-04.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B9C8C6138F for ; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 00:03:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from roland by neptun with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BjmR5-0004QE-00 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 00:04:39 +0200 Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 00:04:39 +0200 From: Roland Goretzki To: Lilypond mailing list Subject: Re: beaming problem Message-ID: <20040711220439.GA16970@neptun.roland-goretzki.de> Mail-Followup-To: Lilypond mailing list References: <20040709210537.GA9441@neptun.roland-goretzki.de> <40EF6FF5.1020004@medialounge.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <40EF6FF5.1020004@medialounge.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1+cvs20040105i Sender: Roland Goretzki X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Roland Goretzki List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 22:06:38 -0000 Hello list, hello Sami, You wrote: > Try \set stemRightBeamCount and \set stemLeftBeamCount as in following > example (beam-count.ly from Lilypond tips and tricks: > http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.2/input/test/out-www/collated-files.html) > > > fragment = \notes { > #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end * * * *) 1 4) > f32 g a b b a g f > > f32 g a > \set stemRightBeamCount = #1 b > \set stemLeftBeamCount = #1 b > a g f > } This was not the solution for my case: Instead of setting the short sixteenth beam to the left, it resulted in disappearing the short sixteenth beam. But Your help was helpful, indeed: Because with Your help I was able to find in the documentation, what I didn't know how to search for before. :-) The solution was to add the following line: \set Score.beatLength = #(ly:make-moment 3 16) So I will post a little example with the correct solution for my case: \include "deutsch.ly" \score { \context Staff \notes\relative c'' { \key c \major \time 9/16 #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end * * * *) 3 16) g'8 ( a,16 f'8 a,16 d8 c16 ) #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end * * * *) 6 16) \set Score.beatLength = #(ly:make-moment 3 16) c8 ( h!16 c8 cis16 ) #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end * * * *) 3 16) cis g g8. a h c4. r8. } } Many thanks for Your help! Best Regards Roland From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jul 12 03:45:50 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BjvVV-00026W-Lh for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 03:45:50 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BjvVS-000255-67 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 03:45:46 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BjvVO-00024B-TC for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 03:45:43 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BjvVO-000247-LS for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 03:45:42 -0400 Received: from [69.41.246.2] (helo=server.dnswired.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1BjvT1-0001cC-5V for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 03:43:15 -0400 Received: from 201009060243.user.veloxzone.com.br ([201.9.60.243] helo=pythagoras) by server.dnswired.com with esmtp (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1BjvSx-00088o-EI for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 04:43:12 -0300 Received: from kroger by pythagoras with local (Exim 4.30) id 1BjvTo-00022S-31 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 04:44:04 -0300 Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 04:44:03 -0300 From: Pedro Kroger To: Lilypond mailing list Subject: Re: scheme code for \set Message-ID: <20040712074403.GA7665@pythagoras> Mail-Followup-To: Lilypond mailing list References: <20040711184518.GA15093@pythagoras> <87u0wefjo7.fsf@free.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87u0wefjo7.fsf@free.fr> X-Editor: Emacs www.emacs.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040523i Sender: Pedro Kroger X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server.dnswired.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - pedrokroeger.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 07:45:47 -0000 * Nicolas Sceaux (nicolas.sceaux@free.fr) wrote: > A possible definition: Thanks for your help. If I do something like: > \notes { > c4 > #(ly:export (mus:set 'Staff 'instrument "violin")) it works beautifully, But it doesn't if I do: #(define-public (mus:set context property val) (make-music 'ContextSpeccedMusic 'context-type context 'element (make-music 'PropertySet 'symbol property 'value val))) #(define (instr-name name) #(ly:export (mus:set 'Staff 'instrument name))) \score { \notes { #(instr-name "violin") c d e } } Any suggestion? Pedro From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jul 12 04:47:13 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BjwSv-0004RS-Nt for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 04:47:13 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BjwSt-0004RG-OZ for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 04:47:11 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BjwSr-0004Qk-VV for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 04:47:11 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BjwSr-0004Qg-QN for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 04:47:09 -0400 Received: from [193.252.22.21] (helo=mwinf1004.wanadoo.fr) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BjwQA-0000Iy-5B for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 04:44:22 -0400 Received: from robert (ABordeaux-251-1-29-132.w82-125.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.125.123.132]) by mwinf1004.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1C9E718004BF for ; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 10:44:21 +0200 (CEST) To: Lilypond mailing list Subject: Re: scheme code for \set References: <20040711184518.GA15093@pythagoras> <87u0wefjo7.fsf@free.fr> <20040712074403.GA7665@pythagoras> From: Nicolas Sceaux X-Face: "gf86$#p, 6cy*Hn!InZ-W/%Hq+@V\Of4rnxOf`tol$KI?yE7=, m0K+H[PW#\! gy8HEFjW$0a^#9H$SOaZ[/Y-7qfM[5)*x=qW7bX{[{}wc."y$5e; nU9rxhIq`F0LaSvl9ws%p{B0$3 cHU1dw^>dB:s7c>Ebsbo}d{r5@J]P>Hnbmx| Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 10:46:02 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20040712074403.GA7665@pythagoras> (Pedro Kroger's message of "Mon, 12 Jul 2004 04:44:03 -0300") Message-ID: <87n025396d.fsf@free.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 08:47:11 -0000 Pedro Kroger writes: > #(define (instr-name name) > #(ly:export (mus:set 'Staff 'instrument name))) Remove the sharp before ly:export, otherwise, the function does not return what you expect: #(define (instr-name name) (ly:export (mus:set 'Staff 'instrument name))) nicolas From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jul 12 14:02:39 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bk58R-0002DK-I5 for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 14:02:39 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bk58P-0002DE-Rl for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 14:02:37 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bk58O-0002Cn-3b for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 14:02:37 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bk58N-0002Ck-WD for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 14:02:36 -0400 Received: from [68.168.78.199] (helo=mta9.adelphia.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bk55a-0002fR-Br for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 13:59:42 -0400 Received: from [192.168.2.10] (really [68.170.38.222]) by mta9.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.03.02 201-2131-111-104-20040324) with ESMTP id <20040712175905.CPIT23406.mta9.adelphia.net@[192.168.2.10]> for ; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 13:59:05 -0400 Message-ID: <40F2D14F.8090802@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 10:58:39 -0700 From: Brian Clements User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.2 (Windows/20040707) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "lilypond-user@gnu.org" Subject: Using processes before I define them... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 18:02:38 -0000 Windows 2000 vr. 2.2.2 In making a drum part, I'm creating the specific voices in the drum (snare = /drums { notes }, bassdrm = \drums { notes }, etc,.) and then putting them together at the end some properties I use: \score { \set Score.markFormatter = #format-mark-numbers \set Score.markFormatter = #(lambda (mark context) (make-bold-markup (make-box-markup (number->string mark)))) \override TextSpanner #'direction = #-1 \override TextSpanner #'edge-text = #'("rit " . "") #(override-auto-beam-setting '(end 1 8 * *) 1 4) } \tempo 4=120 \new DrumStaff << \new DrumVoice { \voiceOne \cues } \new DrumVoice { \voiceTwo \hihat } \new DrumVoice { \voiceThree \snare } \new DrumVoice { \voiceFour \bassdrm } >> } My question is that when within those cues hihat, snare, and bassdrm parts, I use rehearsal \marks and some other formatting things before they defined in the score. Is that allowed? Cause I'm having errors anyway. But they are so ambiguous that I don't know what they are. Would I have to put them in a \paper block? -Brian From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jul 13 00:29:41 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BkEvE-0001lW-Us for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 00:29:41 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BkEvD-0001lQ-Gy for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 00:29:39 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BkEvB-0001lE-GP for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 00:29:39 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BkEvB-0001lB-DR for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 00:29:37 -0400 Received: from [206.117.18.6] (helo=zoot.lafn.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1BkEsW-00005u-Pu for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 00:26:53 -0400 Received: from [66.248.34.165] (02-165.138.popsite.net [66.248.34.165]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoot.lafn.org (8.12.3p3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id i6D4QSk3074962 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 21:26:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from be708@lafn.org) Message-ID: <40F3645F.7060601@lafn.org> Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 21:26:07 -0700 From: Patrick Stanistreet User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7 (X11/20040615) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: need to lower guitar pitch by a scale octave for midi output Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version 0.70, clamav-milter version 0.70j X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 04:29:39 -0000 I wrote in an earlier note that I am converting my 1.6.10 lily files to 2.2.0 and for the most part it is working. The code that I was using to lower the midi pitch of the guitar an octave does not seem to be working, Here is the convert-ly output \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic guitar (nylon)" \set Staff.instrument = "guitar" \set Staff.transposing = -12 Lily doesnt like the above code though, so I would like to know how to get the pitch lowered. Thanks From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jul 13 01:49:42 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BkGAg-0001pZ-8C for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 01:49:42 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BkGAe-0001pP-OH for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 01:49:40 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BkGAc-0001ox-15 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 01:49:40 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BkGAb-0001ou-Tz for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 01:49:37 -0400 Received: from [24.71.223.10] (helo=pd4mo2so.prod.shaw.ca) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BkG8C-0007gv-8P for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 01:47:08 -0400 Received: from pd2mr7so.prod.shaw.ca (pd2mr7so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.10]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0I0S00CY102JKC@l-daemon> for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 23:47:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml1so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.145]) by pd2mr7so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0I0S00I1702J5DF0@pd2mr7so.prod.shaw.ca> for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 23:47:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.57] (S0106006067227a4a.vc.shawcable.net [24.87.233.42]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0I0S00D3402I44@l-daemon> for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 23:47:07 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 22:47:03 -0700 From: Graham Percival Subject: Re: need to lower guitar pitch by a scale octave for midi output In-reply-to: <40F3645F.7060601@lafn.org> To: Patrick Stanistreet Message-id: <116AF843-D490-11D8-9CF4-000A95DABD74@shaw.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <40F3645F.7060601@lafn.org> Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 05:49:40 -0000 On 12-Jul-04, at 9:26 PM, Patrick Stanistreet wrote: > I wrote in an earlier note that I am converting my 1.6.10 lily files > to 2.2.0 and for the most part it is working. The code that I was > using to lower the midi pitch of the guitar an octave does not > seem to be working, > Here is the convert-ly output > > \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic guitar (nylon)" > \set Staff.instrument = "guitar" > \set Staff.transposing = -12 Shouldn't this line be: \set Staff.transposing = #-12 ? The .instrument line might also need to have a # . I'm not certain though, and I haven't tested either of these suggesions. - Graham From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jul 13 03:27:44 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BkHhY-0000mm-2E for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 03:27:44 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BkHhV-0000ke-Q4 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 03:27:41 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BkHhU-0000k7-U7 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 03:27:41 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BkHhU-0000k4-Ph for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 03:27:40 -0400 Received: from [195.71.115.196] (helo=lnxc-641.srv.mediaways.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BkHeP-0000x5-6n for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 03:24:29 -0400 Received: (qmail 2213 invoked by uid 501); 13 Jul 2004 07:24:27 -0000 Received: from pd9e4459c.dip.t-dialin.net (pd9e4459c.dip.t-dialin.net [217.228.69.156]) by compuserve.de ([10.228.3.105]) with ESMTP via TCP; 13 Jul 2004 07:24:27 -0000 From: Jan Kohnert To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: need to lower guitar pitch by a scale octave for midi output Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 09:25:14 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <40F3645F.7060601@lafn.org> In-Reply-To: <40F3645F.7060601@lafn.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200407130925.16315.JanKohnert@compuserve.de> X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 07:27:42 -0000 Am Dienstag 13 Juli 2004 06:26 schrieb Patrick Stanistreet: > I wrote in an earlier note that I am converting my 1.6.10 lily files > to 2.2.0 and for the most part it is working. The code that I was > using to lower the midi pitch of the guitar an octave does not > seem to be working, > Here is the convert-ly output > > \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic guitar (nylon)" > \set Staff.instrument = "guitar" > \set Staff.transposing = -12 > > Lily doesnt like the above code though, so I would like to know how > to get the pitch lowered. Why don't you use \clef "treble_8" in your guitar parts. Then you have a "real" guitar score and you can specify the notes one octave lower. It would surely be too much work to change this in your previous files but for future work, if ou like this one. > Thanks Your welcome :-) Best regards Jan -- OpenPGP public key available: http://home.arcor.de/jan.kohnert/gnupg_publickey.asc Key-Fingerprint: BA8E 11D1 FE7C 9353 7276 5375 486E 9BED 2B03 DF29 From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jul 13 06:59:27 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BkL0R-00033C-4H for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 06:59:27 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BkL0O-00032b-OF for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 06:59:24 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BkL0L-00032D-Tz for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 06:59:24 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BkL0L-000323-PR for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 06:59:21 -0400 Received: from [213.31.226.166] (helo=relay01.par.totalfinaelf.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BkKxw-0007KN-LB for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 06:56:52 -0400 Received: from relay01.par.totalfinaelf.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.par.totalfinaelf.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6203D1EF418 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 10:42:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from heu-fm-09.europe.hd.corp.local (unknown [10.22.149.3]) by SEA-PAR-SUN-SMTP-02B.totalfinaelf.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DF251EF339 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 10:42:08 +0000 (GMT) Subject: zigzag vertical lines To: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.12 February 13, 2003 Message-ID: From: Jean-marc LEGRAND Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 12:56:01 +0200 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on XFRPAR-HE05/GROUP/Corp(Release 6.5.1|January 21, 2004) at 13/07/2004 12:56:45 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jean-marc LEGRAND List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 10:59:24 -0000 Hi list ! I've tried this with lily 2.0 : \score { \notes \relative c'' { \property Voice.Line \override #'style = #'zigzag a-"\\embeddedps{0.1 setlinewidth -1 7 moveto 0 -3 rlineto stroke}" } \paper { linewidth = 70 * \staffspace % raggedright = ##t } } I try to give at the vertical line a zigzag shape. Does anybody know what I have to do ? Thanks From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jul 13 10:10:48 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BkNzb-0000jJ-U9 for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 10:10:48 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BkNzZ-0000iJ-Bf for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 10:10:45 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BkNzW-0000gy-8O for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 10:10:44 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BkNzW-0000gu-6S for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 10:10:42 -0400 Received: from [213.31.226.166] (helo=relay01.par.totalfinaelf.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BkNww-0005C7-ID for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 10:08:02 -0400 Received: from relay01.par.totalfinaelf.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.par.totalfinaelf.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47ACF11B93B; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 13:53:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from heu-fm-09.europe.hd.corp.local (unknown [10.22.149.3]) by SEA-PAR-SUN-SMTP-02A.totalfinaelf.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1216611B4E2; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 13:53:08 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: jazz articulations To: rz@daimi.au.dk, lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.12 February 13, 2003 Message-ID: From: Jean-marc LEGRAND Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 16:07:27 +0200 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on XFRPAR-HE05/GROUP/Corp(Release 6.5.1|January 21, 2004) at 13/07/2004 16:08:00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jean-marc LEGRAND List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 14:10:45 -0000 Hi, Rune I'de like to make a zigzag horizontal line upon a note. I try to use your raise = #"\\embeddedps{0.2 setlinewidth 0.2 -0.2 moveto 0 -1 -0.7 -1.8 -1.2 -2 rcurveto stroke}" but I don't understand how the figures work. I think 0.2 -0.2 indicates the first point of the line, but what do 0 -1 -0.7 -1.8 -1.2 -2 mean ? Regards From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jul 13 18:28:22 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BkVl8-0005JJ-5X for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 18:28:22 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BkVl6-0005JB-VZ for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 18:28:21 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BkVl4-0005IS-39 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 18:28:20 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BkVl4-0005IP-0d for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 18:28:18 -0400 Received: from [195.70.32.130] (helo=mail.interware.hu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BkViS-0003aY-8Y for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 18:25:36 -0400 Received: from caracas-2742.adsl.interware.hu ([213.178.110.182]) by mail.interware.hu with esmtp (Exim 4.34 #1 (Debian)) id 1BkViR-0002Rf-Ms for ; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 00:25:35 +0200 Message-ID: <40F46164.4070602@freemail.hu> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 00:25:40 +0200 From: Bertalan Fodor User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (Windows/20040626) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Isn't LyricText a grob of the Lyrics context? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 22:28:21 -0000 I don't really understand why LyricText is not a grob of Lyrics context. And if I say \new Lyrics { \override LyricText #'self-alingment.X=#'-1 } is correct but \new Lyrics { \override Lyrics.LyricText #'self-alingment.X=#'-1 } is not. Could someone help understanding this? Thanks, Bert From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jul 14 01:09:54 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bkc1i-0006LK-8L for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 01:09:54 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bkc1h-0006LE-9D for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 01:09:53 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bkc1e-0006Kz-8D for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 01:09:52 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bkc1e-0006Kw-4m for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 01:09:50 -0400 Received: from [217.13.4.2] (helo=mail.broadpark.no) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bkbyz-00033a-8S for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 01:07:05 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (40.80-202-124.nextgentel.com [80.202.124.40]) by mail.broadpark.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id A96CF1963 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 07:07:33 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <40F4BFF4.80706@broadpark.no> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 07:09:08 +0200 From: Hallstein Lunde User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; nb-NO; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Accept-Language: nb, no, nn, en-gb, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Fingering Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 05:09:53 -0000 After a few hours of refreshing work I finally found out how to put fingerings _beneath_ the lower staff in a piano score. As far as I know, that should be the default direction by common engraving rules. It went like this: \override Fingering #'direction = #-1 I would suggest that it should be added to the manual. It's nearly mentioned. And put into the piano-dynamics.ly template. Regards Hallstein From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jul 14 01:31:28 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BkcMa-0002G3-M7 for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 01:31:28 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BkcMZ-0002Fy-6a for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 01:31:27 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BkcMX-0002Fl-Bu for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 01:31:26 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BkcMX-0002Fi-9U for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 01:31:25 -0400 Received: from [62.240.72.111] (helo=smtp2.dnainternet.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BkcJz-0005Bo-CN for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 01:28:47 -0400 Received: from baana224-122.baanapalvelut.net ([213.186.224.122]:3993 "EHLO [213.186.224.122]" TLS-CIPHER: ) by smtp2.dnainternet.net with ESMTP id S1228764AbUGNF2j (ORCPT ); Wed, 14 Jul 2004 08:28:39 +0300 Message-ID: <40F4C4CE.3000803@medialounge.com> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 08:29:50 +0300 From: Sami Huhtala User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (Windows/20040626) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Hallstein Lunde , Lilypond mailing list Subject: Re: Fingering References: <40F4BFF4.80706@broadpark.no> In-Reply-To: <40F4BFF4.80706@broadpark.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 05:31:27 -0000 Much simpler solution when the need to force a number above/below the staff is only temporary: c^3 forces the fingering-number above the note c-3 finds the 'most natural' place for the number (always[?] above the staff - collisions very likely when setting polyphonic music!) c_3 forces the fingering-number below the note So basically placing a fingering-number uses the same placing policy as the articulation marks. The most simple notation (c-3) should be ok when settin one-voice music, but in keyboard music particularly, when the fingering number often show on wich hand to play the note, it is important to have the other options too. When fingering polyphonic music following methods are working when forcing stacked fingering-numbers c_1_3 and e^3^1 ( e_1^3 and e^1_3 are unreliable) If you want a change of a finger use following code: c_\markup { \fontsize #-5 \number "1-3" } Note that if you use quotation marks in numbers you must explicitly define the font-style used with \number I find the default value of fingering paddin to be a little too much (particularly noticeable in stacked numbers). This should help: \override Fingering #'padding = #0.3 - Sami Huhtala Hallstein Lunde wrote: > After a few hours of refreshing work I finally found out how to put > fingerings _beneath_ the lower staff in a piano score. As far as I > know, that should be the default direction by common engraving rules. > It went like this: > > \override Fingering #'direction = #-1 > > > I would suggest that it should be added to the manual. It's nearly > mentioned. And put into the piano-dynamics.ly template. > > Regards > Hallstein > > > > _______________________________________________ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jul 14 04:22:57 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bkf2X-00032T-4e for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 04:22:57 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bkf2V-00032E-3P for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 04:22:55 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bkf2S-00031c-P6 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 04:22:54 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bkf2S-00031Z-EL for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 04:22:52 -0400 Received: from [80.91.224.249] (helo=main.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bkezy-00067D-Om for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 04:20:19 -0400 Received: from root by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Bkezw-0005GO-00 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 10:20:16 +0200 Received: from pd952d16f.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.82.209.111]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 10:20:16 +0200 Received: from blacktrash by pd952d16f.dip.t-dialin.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 10:20:16 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: lilypond-user@gnu.org To: lilypond-user@gnu.org From: Christian Ebert Subject: font-name in markup Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 09:59:42 +0200 Organization: Black Trash Productions Lines: 35 Message-ID: <2004-07-14.07-27-27@krille.blacktrash.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pd952d16f.dip.t-dialin.net Mail-Copies-To: nobody X-Face: ":Ume}YcUEc!<)-M&h5@F5&g51d^AlhDM0Tc#@}c?;QGTZqz7fb"wR|NJA]!CGZ~?>.$ User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Darwin) Sender: news X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: blacktrash@gmx.org List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 08:22:55 -0000 Hello lilies, First of all I'd like to say how much I like the results of lilypond engraving! I don't use it much yet, just for a small section in book I am typesetting in LaTeX but it's good that this part fits so well in the overall picture. Now to the newbie question: I know how to change the font for Lyrics with e.g. \property Lyrics . LyricText \override #'font-name = #'"lsbrj8t" Is there a way to do the same for markup? Do I have to add something to new-markup.scm in the way of (define-public magnify-markup (set-property-markup 'font-name)) (define-public sabon-markup (font-markup 'font-name '"lsbrj8t")) to be able to do like c^\markup{\sabon "Text"} ? I haven't done any scheme, so I hesitate because I know even less than usual what I'd be doing. [lilypond 2.0.1, the fink port for MacOS X 10.2 hasn't got a more recent version] c -- So dacht ich. Nächstens mehr. _HÖLDERLIN: H Y P E R I O N_ From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jul 14 05:17:25 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BkftF-0005qp-AM for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 05:17:25 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BkftD-0005pH-FL for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 05:17:23 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BkftB-0005mf-Oy for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 05:17:23 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BkftB-0005mX-La for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 05:17:21 -0400 Received: from [194.109.24.13] (helo=smtp-out3.xs4all.nl) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bkfqh-0003aN-6Q for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 05:14:47 -0400 Received: from peder.flower (appel.xs4all.nl [80.126.34.178]) by smtp-out3.xs4all.nl (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6E9EjlX001546; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 11:14:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=peder.flower ident=janneke) by peder.flower with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bkfqe-0002w7-V4; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 11:14:45 +0200 To: Bertalan Fodor Subject: Re: Isn't LyricText a grob of the Lyrics context? References: <40F46164.4070602@freemail.hu> From: Jan Nieuwenhuizen Organization: Jan at Appel Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 11:14:44 +0200 In-Reply-To: <40F46164.4070602@freemail.hu> (Bertalan Fodor's message of "Wed, 14 Jul 2004 00:25:40 +0200") Message-ID: <87fz7vhrwb.fsf@peder.flower> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org, Han-Wen Nienhuys X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 09:17:23 -0000 Bertalan Fodor writes: > I don't really understand why LyricText is not a grob of Lyrics context. but you have a number of interesting problems, > \override LyricText #'self-alingment.X=#'-1 it is spelled self-aliGNment-X > \override Lyrics.LyricText #'self-alingment.X=#'-1 and you must separate the Context.GrobName with spaces. Would you please send full examples, that works a lot nicer. I wanted to refer you to the documentation http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.3/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond-internals/LyricText.html but it says created by: none. Han-Wen? Jan. \version "2.3.6" << { a b } \new Lyrics \lyrics { \override LyricText #'self-alignment-X = #'-1 aaaa bbbb } %is correct but \new Lyrics \lyrics { \override Lyrics . LyricText #'self-alignment-X = #'-1 aaaa bbbb } >> -- Jan Nieuwenhuizen | GNU LilyPond - The music typesetter http://www.xs4all.nl/~jantien | http://www.lilypond.org From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jul 14 06:51:29 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BkhMH-0002cW-5q for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 06:51:29 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BkhMF-0002cD-FC for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 06:51:27 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BkhMD-0002bx-Iq for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 06:51:27 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BkhMD-0002bu-Fk for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 06:51:25 -0400 Received: from [152.66.115.1] (helo=nic.bme.hu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BkhJO-0004xZ-5u; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 06:48:30 -0400 Received: from [152.66.241.161] (gep2.iit.bme.hu [152.66.241.161]) by nic.bme.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFBD227D20; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 12:48:27 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <40F50FAC.2060808@freemail.hu> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 12:49:16 +0200 From: Bertalan Fodor User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (Windows/20040626) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jan Nieuwenhuizen Subject: Re: Isn't LyricText a grob of the Lyrics context? References: <40F46164.4070602@freemail.hu> <87fz7vhrwb.fsf@peder.flower> In-Reply-To: <87fz7vhrwb.fsf@peder.flower> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 10:51:27 -0000 >and you must separate the Context.GrobName with spaces. > > Really? I have never separated them... And they worked well. Bert From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jul 14 08:15:57 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bkig1-0006jl-9B for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 08:15:57 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bkifz-0006jZ-KX for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 08:15:55 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bkifx-0006jM-Ry for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 08:15:55 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bkifx-0006jJ-L8 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 08:15:53 -0400 Received: from [194.25.134.17] (helo=mailout02.sul.t-online.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BkidK-0006Lm-01 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 08:13:10 -0400 Received: from fwd05.aul.t-online.de by mailout02.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1BkidI-0003mO-05; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 14:13:08 +0200 Received: from xpert (EXLaikZcZejLv315AD6Ntl+L4grxM220P+WAP+XNwDRwDwkt-K-nE1@[80.143.127.24]) by fwd05.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 1Bkicz-0TVSNc0; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 14:12:49 +0200 From: t.scharkowski@t-online.de (Thomas Scharkowski) To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 14:12:49 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: lilytool for jEdit: error list does not work Message-ID: <40F53F61.29577.B4D2F@localhost> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c, DE v4.21c R1) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-ID: EXLaikZcZejLv315AD6Ntl+L4grxM220P+WAP+XNwDRwDwkt-K-nE1 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 12:15:55 -0000 Hello list, on my SuSE linux machine "error list" does not show any errors or warnings. Maybe I have changed something without noticing it? I have tried to setup jEdit the same way like on my win xp / cywin installation, where error list is o.k.. I work with lilypond 2.2.4 (linux) and 2.2.2 (windows). jEdit 4.1 and lilytool 0.2 Thank you, Thomas From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jul 14 09:01:59 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BkjOZ-0000hQ-Dy for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 09:01:59 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BkjOX-0000hI-3r for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 09:01:57 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BkjOV-0000h6-K6 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 09:01:56 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BkjOV-0000h3-In for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 09:01:55 -0400 Received: from [152.66.115.1] (helo=nic.bme.hu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BkjLr-0003mr-2C for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 08:59:11 -0400 Received: from [152.66.241.161] (gep2.iit.bme.hu [152.66.241.161]) by nic.bme.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6860C27D2A; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 14:59:10 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <40F52E4F.6080300@freemail.hu> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 14:59:59 +0200 From: Bertalan Fodor User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (Windows/20040626) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thomas Scharkowski Subject: Re: lilytool for jEdit: error list does not work References: <40F53F61.29577.B4D2F@localhost> In-Reply-To: <40F53F61.29577.B4D2F@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 13:01:57 -0000 You could try some things: - make a block-closing error (delete a } or type one), save and see if it appears. - only warnings and errors that have associated line and column numbers appear on the error list. - Utilities-Troubleshooting-Activity log: perhaps there are some Exceptions that can cause the problem. If you send me your activity log, I will look at it. Bert From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jul 14 15:14:08 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BkpCi-0006Py-AX for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 15:14:08 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BkawR-0001RI-JN for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 00:00:24 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BkawP-0001Qv-Rl for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 00:00:23 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BkawP-0001Qs-JD for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 00:00:21 -0400 Received: from [168.144.1.81] (helo=relay1.mail2web.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bkatt-0004tF-4X for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 23:57:45 -0400 Received: from M2W042.mail2web.com ([168.144.251.148]) by relay1.mail2web.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 13 Jul 2004 23:57:18 -0400 Message-ID: <299550-22004731435718851@M2W042.mail2web.com> X-Priority: 3 X-Originating-IP: 209.204.105.84 X-URL: http://mail2web.com/ From: "img43@concentric.net" To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Lilypond - Unsuccessful install on Windows 2K Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 23:57:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BC2B74.89D1CCC0" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jul 2004 03:57:18.0793 (UTC) FILETIME=[A87AA390:01C46956] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 15:14:06 -0400 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: img43@concentric.net List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 04:00:24 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BC2B74.89D1CCC0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Installed as directed with no problems=2E When Adobe Reader 6=2E0 trys to= open the file, it reports it can't located the file=2E Test=2Elog is attached=2E Sincerly, M=2E C=2E Kane -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web=2Ecom/ =2E ------=_NextPart_000_01BC2B74.89D1CCC0-- From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jul 14 17:55:22 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bkrij-0004KP-Qg for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 17:55:21 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bkrii-0004JZ-W3 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 17:55:21 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bkrih-0004HO-99 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 17:55:20 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bkrih-0004HJ-63 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 17:55:19 -0400 Received: from [195.70.32.130] (helo=mail.interware.hu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bkrfy-0000iu-9E for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 17:52:30 -0400 Received: from caracas-2742.adsl.interware.hu ([213.178.110.182]) by mail.interware.hu with esmtp (Exim 4.34 #1 (Debian)) id 1Bkrfw-0002GN-AP for ; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 23:52:28 +0200 Message-ID: <40F5AB20.2080506@freemail.hu> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 23:52:32 +0200 From: Bertalan Fodor User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (Windows/20040626) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Semi-globally changing fonts Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 21:55:21 -0000 Hello, I'm working on a songbook and must use ae fonts instead of cm. That means in lyrics I can easily tell in a common paper block: \LyricsContext \override LyricText font-name = #"aeb10" However, using the same for TextScripts is not fine, because there are many style of them (italic, bold, plain). (And this can occur for Lyrics texts as well, but not so often.) So I must define a font for italic, bold, etc. So how can I redefine the settings in font.scm in my common paper block? I tried including the same in a Scheme block but that didn't work. Thank you, Bert From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 15 04:06:41 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bl1GL-0002op-4P for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 04:06:41 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bl1GI-0002oh-Mv for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 04:06:38 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bl1GE-0002nA-FN for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 04:06:36 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bl1GE-0002n7-9K for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 04:06:34 -0400 Received: from [212.12.47.141] (helo=mail2.pepperzak.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bl1Dj-0000gl-FX for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 04:03:59 -0400 Received: from xpert ([80.143.124.43] unverified) by mail2.pepperzak.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 15 Jul 2004 10:04:36 +0200 From: "Thomas Scharkowski" To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 10:03:55 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Linux jEdit error list Message-ID: <40F6568B.4218.1C51F4@localhost> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c, DE v4.21c R1) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: Quoted-printable Content-description: Mail message body X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jul 2004 08:04:36.0554 (UTC) FILETIME=[5EE30AA0:01C46A42] X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 08:06:39 -0000 Hello list, hello Bert, I now found out that in some occasions error list does work: removing/adding a "{" and saving shows the expected result: ...14:Block is not closed clicking there jumps to line 14, o.k.! Now I remove the "\" before my midi-block and run the console: console shows: /home/thomas/lilypond-files/Gitarre/Unterricht/morenita.ly:66:4: Fehler: syntax error, unexpected STRING, expecting HEADER or MIDI or PAPER or '}': mid i {\tempo 4 =3D 126} But I get no reaction in "error list". The same happens for barchecks: console: /home/thomas/lilypond-files/Gitarre/Unterricht/morenita.ly:61:25: Warnung: Takt=FCberpr=FCfung gescheitert bei: `1/16': c4 bes8 a g a bes c c16 | No reaction in "error list". Thank for your help. Thomas for Bert: Where should I send my "activity.log"? The message to lilypond-user@gnu.org bounces because it exceeds the 64k limit. P.S.: I just tested under cygwin: Now I get the "error list" reaction after running liypond from console: Barcheck: morenita.ly:61:barcheck failed at: 1/16: or missing "\": morenita.ly:66:syntax error, unexpected STRING, expecting HEADER or MIDI or PAPER or '}': morenita.ly:73:syntax error, unexpected '}': Thanks again, Thomas From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 15 04:08:10 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bl1Hm-0003Dz-N8 for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 04:08:10 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bl1Hk-0003Db-AG for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 04:08:08 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bl1Hj-0003DC-7e for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 04:08:07 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bl1Hi-0003D9-VK for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 04:08:07 -0400 Received: from [194.25.134.80] (helo=mailout01.sul.t-online.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bl1FA-0000pw-TK for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 04:05:29 -0400 Received: from fwd11.aul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1Bl1FA-0007lt-02; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 10:05:28 +0200 Received: from xpert (Eq4nFOZBgehwVcgJeClp42IxUUmad+sLfPeESMRUQTEtk1trEg4+ra@[80.143.124.43]) by fwd11.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 1Bl1Er-0GtxNw0; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 10:05:09 +0200 From: t.scharkowski@t-online.de (Thomas Scharkowski) To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 10:05:11 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Linux jEdit error list Message-ID: <40F656D7.4108.1D7CD2@localhost> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c, DE v4.21c R1) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: Quoted-printable Content-description: Mail message body X-ID: Eq4nFOZBgehwVcgJeClp42IxUUmad+sLfPeESMRUQTEtk1trEg4+ra X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 08:08:08 -0000 Hello list, hello Bert, I now found out that in some occasions error list does work: removing/adding a "{" and saving shows the expected result: ...14:Block is not closed clicking there jumps to line 14, o.k.! Now I remove the "\" before my midi-block and run the console: console shows: /home/thomas/lilypond-files/Gitarre/Unterricht/morenita.ly:66:4: Fehler: syntax error, unexpected STRING, expecting HEADER or MIDI or PAPER or '}': mid i {\tempo 4 =3D 126} But I get no reaction in "error list". The same happens for barchecks: console: /home/thomas/lilypond-files/Gitarre/Unterricht/morenita.ly:61:25: Warnung: Takt=FCberpr=FCfung gescheitert bei: `1/16': c4 bes8 a g a bes c c16 | No reaction in "error list". Thank for your help. Thomas for Bert: Where should I send my "activity.log"? The message to lilypond-user@gnu.org bounces because it exceeds the 64k limit. P.S.: I just tested under cygwin: Now I get the "error list" reaction after running liypond from console: Barcheck: morenita.ly:61:barcheck failed at: 1/16: or missing "\": morenita.ly:66:syntax error, unexpected STRING, expecting HEADER or MIDI or PAPER or '}': morenita.ly:73:syntax error, unexpected '}': Thanks again, Thomas From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 15 04:30:39 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bl1dW-0007nL-Lk for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 04:30:38 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bl1dV-0007lc-2K for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 04:30:37 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bl1dT-0007jm-HH for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 04:30:36 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bl1dT-0007ja-98 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 04:30:35 -0400 Received: from [195.70.32.130] (helo=mail.interware.hu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bl1ak-00033C-W7 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 04:27:47 -0400 Received: from caracas-2742.adsl.interware.hu ([213.178.110.182]) by mail.interware.hu with esmtp (Exim 4.34 #1 (Debian)) id 1Bl1aj-0008Q9-44; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 10:27:45 +0200 Message-ID: <40F64004.6030605@freemail.hu> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 10:27:48 +0200 From: Bertalan Fodor User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (Windows/20040626) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thomas Scharkowski Subject: Re: Linux jEdit error list References: <40F6568B.4218.1C51F4@localhost> In-Reply-To: <40F6568B.4218.1C51F4@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 08:30:37 -0000 Thanks, the problem is that lilytool is looking for the string "error" and "warning " after the line and column number to find the errors and warnings. However, you're running lily in German, so lilytool should watch for Fehler and Warnung. I've make a quick patch for this and uploaded the new version (0.2-1) to the project page (http://www.sf.net/projects/lily4jedit) I hope it works now. You can also use the support request, bug and other trackers on our project page. You can upload files there as well. Bert From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 15 15:13:17 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BlBfR-0000r2-SO for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 15:13:17 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BlBfP-0000q4-QC for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 15:13:15 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BlBfO-0000ps-Uh for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 15:13:15 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BlBfO-0000pp-RL for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 15:13:14 -0400 Received: from [62.235.13.172] (helo=spoolo1.tiscali.be) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BlBck-0004MX-F5 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 15:10:30 -0400 Received: from [83.134.6.4] (helo=[192.168.1.1]) by spoolo1.tiscali.be with esmtp (Tiscali.be http://www.tiscali.be) id 1BlBcj-0008EF-HS for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 21:10:29 +0200 Message-ID: <40F6E4B7.3080707@wol.be> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 21:10:31 +0100 From: Raphael Slinckx User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (Windows/20040502) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Phrasing slur over polyphonic melodies Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 19:13:16 -0000 Hi ! I've a little problem I can't figure out, and I hope someone here knows the answer ! Imagine somthing like this (where numbers represent notes): << {1 2 3} \\ {4 5 6} >> (Here we have a bar break) << {7 8 9} \\ {a b c} >> Now I want a phrasing slur between notes 1 and 9 , when I try, lilypond throws me warning because it can't find beginning of slur and end of slur, so I suppose this is illegal ! How is it possible to achieve that result ? Thanks ! Raphael From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 15 16:07:32 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BlCVv-0002Jy-W5 for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 16:07:32 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BlCVu-0002J5-14 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 16:07:30 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BlCVs-0002I2-Tf for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 16:07:29 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BlCVs-0002Hp-NB for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 16:07:28 -0400 Received: from [62.240.72.111] (helo=smtp2.dnainternet.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BlCTG-0002cZ-NC for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 16:04:46 -0400 Received: from baana224-122.baanapalvelut.net ([213.186.224.122]:1170 "EHLO [213.186.224.122]" TLS-CIPHER: ) by smtp2.dnainternet.net with ESMTP id S1229082AbUGOUEn (ORCPT ); Thu, 15 Jul 2004 23:04:43 +0300 Message-ID: <40F6E35B.7080702@medialounge.com> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 23:04:43 +0300 From: Sami Huhtala User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (Windows/20040626) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Raphael Slinckx Subject: Re: Phrasing slur over polyphonic melodies References: <40F6E4B7.3080707@wol.be> In-Reply-To: <40F6E4B7.3080707@wol.be> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 20:07:30 -0000 Why don't you simply put the two bars in the same line, like: << {1( 2 3 | 7 8 9)} \\ {4 5 6 | a b c} >> - Sami Raphael Slinckx wrote: > Hi ! > > I've a little problem I can't figure out, and I hope someone here knows > the answer ! > > Imagine somthing like this (where numbers represent notes): > > << {1 2 3} \\ > {4 5 6} >> > > (Here we have a bar break) > > << {7 8 9} \\ > {a b c} >> > > Now I want a phrasing slur between notes 1 and 9 , when I try, lilypond > throws me warning because it can't find beginning of slur and end of > slur, so I suppose this is illegal ! > > How is it possible to achieve that result ? > > Thanks ! > Raphael > > > _______________________________________________ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 15 17:44:54 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BlE2A-0006MC-97 for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 17:44:54 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BlE29-0006M7-Im for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 17:44:53 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BlE27-0006Lv-Uh for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 17:44:53 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BlE27-0006Ls-Qr for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 17:44:51 -0400 Received: from [195.70.32.130] (helo=mail.interware.hu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BlDzR-0004sa-Mp for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 17:42:05 -0400 Received: from caracas-2128.adsl.interware.hu ([213.178.108.80]) by mail.interware.hu with esmtp (Exim 4.34 #1 (Debian)) id 1BlDzR-00049k-3f; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 23:42:05 +0200 Message-ID: <40F6FA2A.6040802@freemail.hu> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 23:42:02 +0200 From: Bertalan Fodor User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (Windows/20040626) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sami Huhtala Subject: Re: Phrasing slur over polyphonic melodies References: <40F6E4B7.3080707@wol.be> <40F6E35B.7080702@medialounge.com> In-Reply-To: <40F6E35B.7080702@medialounge.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 21:44:53 -0000 Or perhaps naming Voices explicitily can do the trick. \context Voice = vocA { c d e f g << \context Voice = vocA { 1( 2 3 } \\ { 4 5 6 } >> e f g a << \context Voice = vocA { 7 8 9) } \\ { a b c } >> } > > Why don't you simply put the two bars in the same line, like: > > << {1( 2 3 | 7 8 9)} \\ {4 5 6 | a b c} >> From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 15 18:51:26 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BlF4Y-0003LW-JA for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 18:51:26 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BlF4W-0003Kt-Sh for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 18:51:24 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BlF4V-0003Js-Vc for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 18:51:24 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BlF4V-0003Jn-S6 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 18:51:23 -0400 Received: from [62.235.13.173] (helo=spoolo2.tiscali.be) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BlF1o-0003DK-1E for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 18:48:36 -0400 Received: from [83.134.6.4] (helo=[192.168.1.1]) by spoolo2.tiscali.be with esmtp (Tiscali.be http://www.tiscali.be) id 1BlEwv-0008WN-0k for ; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 00:43:33 +0200 Message-ID: <40F709C1.6000905@wol.be> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 00:48:33 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rapha=EBl_Slinckx?= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (X11/20040701) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Phrasing slur over polyphonic melodies References: <40F6E4B7.3080707@wol.be> <40F6E35B.7080702@medialounge.com> <40F6FA2A.6040802@freemail.hu> In-Reply-To: <40F6FA2A.6040802@freemail.hu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 22:51:25 -0000 Ah ! I didn't know it was possible ! Thank you very much, it worked indeed ! Raf Bertalan Fodor wrote: > Or perhaps naming Voices explicitily can do the trick. > > \context Voice = vocA { > c d e f g << \context Voice = vocA { 1( 2 3 } \\ { 4 5 6 } >> > e f g a << \context Voice = vocA { 7 8 9) } \\ { a b c } >> > } > >> >> Why don't you simply put the two bars in the same line, like: >> >> << {1( 2 3 | 7 8 9)} \\ {4 5 6 | a b c} >> > > > > From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 15 18:58:25 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BlFBI-0004vJ-Uo for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 18:58:24 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BlFBH-0004v3-KB for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 18:58:23 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BlFBG-0004ud-Qq for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 18:58:23 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BlFBG-0004ua-OA for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 18:58:22 -0400 Received: from [68.230.240.35] (helo=lakermmtao04.cox.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BlF8b-0003sN-Kj for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 18:55:37 -0400 Received: from scylla.anicca ([68.110.234.148]) by lakermmtao04.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.03.02 201-2131-111-104-20040324) with ESMTP id <20040715225535.RXHE19953.lakermmtao04.cox.net@scylla.anicca> for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 18:55:35 -0400 From: David Raleigh Arnold Organization: openguitar.com To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Fingering Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 18:55:35 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <40F4BFF4.80706@broadpark.no> <40F4C4CE.3000803@medialounge.com> In-Reply-To: <40F4C4CE.3000803@medialounge.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200407151855.35951.darnold4@cox.net> X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dra@openguitar.com List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 22:58:23 -0000 On Wednesday 14 July 2004 01:29 am, Sami Huhtala wrote: > Much simpler solution when the need to force a number above/below the > staff is only temporary: > > c^3 forces the fingering-number above the note > c-3 finds the 'most natural' place for the number > (always[?] above the staff - collisions very likely when > setting polyphonic music!) > c_3 forces the fingering-number below the note > > So basically placing a fingering-number uses the same placing policy > as the articulation marks. The most simple notation (c-3) should be > ok when settin one-voice music, but in keyboard music particularly, > when the fingering number often show on wich hand to play the note, > it is important to have the other options too. > > When fingering polyphonic music following methods are working when > forcing stacked fingering-numbers Not everyone agrees that stacking fingering is ok. The old usage is to have the finger indication closest to its note, and many would prefer to follow that convention. Besides, it consumes less vertical space on the page to do it the old way. daveA -- Paying more at the gas pump? Bush's Oil Sheikh Buddies, who support Al Qaeda, Palestinian terrorists, & hate-U.S. school systems everywhere, need more of your money now to arm and pay Iraqis to kill Americans. D. Raleigh Arnold dra@ (http://www.) openguitar.com darnold4@cox.net From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 15 20:13:35 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BlGM3-0003EC-8v for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 20:13:35 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BlGM1-0003Dg-TI for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 20:13:33 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BlGLy-0003D9-OO for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 20:13:33 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BlGLy-0003Cx-IR for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 20:13:30 -0400 Received: from [151.189.21.44] (helo=mail-in-04.arcor-online.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1BlGIu-0002VZ-QF for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 20:10:22 -0400 Received: from neptun (dialin-145-254-090-252.arcor-ip.net [145.254.90.252]) by mail-in-04.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFB39C63475 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 02:10:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from roland by neptun with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BlGJv-00080K-00 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 02:11:23 +0200 Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 02:11:23 +0200 From: Roland Goretzki To: Lilypond mailing list Subject: Handling of Ties in chords individually? Message-ID: <20040716001123.GB30685@neptun.roland-goretzki.de> Mail-Followup-To: Lilypond mailing list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1+cvs20040105i Sender: Roland Goretzki X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Roland Goretzki List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 00:13:34 -0000 Hi at all. I'm still using lilypond 2.2.0, and I wonder, wether it is possible to determine at tied chords explicitely, which direction every tie shall have. To demonstrate that this is necessary, here a little piece of code: \include "deutsch.ly" \score { \context Staff \notes\relative c'' { \key c \major g4 g' cis, b g' g, g' ~ g' cis, b g1 } } The second tie (from bottom to top) between 'b' and 'b' would look much better, if its direction would be down. The other ties should behold their directions. With \tieDown, \tieUp or \tieBoth I can't get a good result. Any ideas? Or perhaps a solution to this is planned for a later lilypond version? Thanks and Best Regards Roland From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jul 16 03:00:29 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BlMhp-0006Wm-N5 for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 03:00:29 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BlMho-0006Wg-54 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 03:00:28 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BlMhn-0006WM-0K for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 03:00:27 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BlMhm-0006WC-RH for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 03:00:26 -0400 Received: from [203.12.160.101] (helo=mail5.tpgi.com.au) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1BlMex-0007JK-MY for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 02:57:32 -0400 Received: from pandorasbox (kia-ts1-2600-197.tpgi.com.au [202.7.212.197]) by mail5.tpgi.com.au (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6G6v9up029366 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 16:57:17 +1000 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: nested repeats From: Shelagh Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=utf-8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 16:58:12 +1000 Message-ID: User-Agent: Opera7.23/Linux M2 build 518 X-TPG-Antivirus: Passed X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 07:00:28 -0000 Hello, I'm new to the list. I really like Lilypond. Beautiful printouts but I'm finding using it a big learning curve. I have a question about syntax of repeats which go like this 1. 2.- 5. 6. music notes to first ending :| this ending played *3 :| and this is the final ending I've read throught the documentation but I don't see anythng like this described. Shelagh From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jul 16 05:09:34 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BlOik-0000ny-8A for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 05:09:34 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BlOih-0000nK-JB for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 05:09:31 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BlOie-0000mv-7c for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 05:09:30 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BlOie-0000ml-54 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 05:09:28 -0400 Received: from [212.216.176.143] (helo=vsmtp3.tin.it) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BlOg4-0002dF-Iv for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 05:06:49 -0400 Received: from [192.168.4.100] (80.116.86.88) by vsmtp3.tin.it (7.0.027) id 40F0321F0014832F for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 11:06:45 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <70FAEB35-D707-11D8-BD36-003065643A74@xhero.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: lilypond-user@gnu.org From: Rodolfo W. Zitellini Subject: systems overlapping Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 11:06:36 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 09:09:31 -0000 Hi, I'm quite new to this program, and for exercise I was trying to typeset the score of a mass, with nine staves. I have made a separate input file for each voice and I include them using \include in a top level file containing the \score context. While the music gets typeset correctly, I get that in every page there are two systems that overlap. I have read trough the manual but I didn't find any help: I tried changing the font size (but I always get two or more systems overlapping!), and forcing page breaks. Can anyone help me? I am using lilypond 2.3.1, and my top-level file looks like this: \header { title = "Messa a 4 La Lambertina" composer = "Giacomo Antonio Perti, 1736" } \include "violino1.ly" \include "violino2.ly" \include "viola.ly" \include "violoncello.ly" \include "canto.ly" \include "alto.ly" \include "tenor.ly" \include "basso.ly" \include "organo.ly" #(set-global-staff-size 20) \score { << \context StaffGroup = "orchestra" << \staffA \staffB \staffC \staffD >> \context ChoirStaff = "coro" << \staffE \staffF \staffG \staffH >> \context StaffGroup = "basso" << \transpose c,, c, \staffI >> >> } thanks, Rodolfo From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jul 16 05:12:40 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BlOlj-0001bq-BF for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 05:12:39 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BlOlh-0001bc-Dn for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 05:12:37 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BlOlf-0001bE-Qp for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 05:12:36 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BlOlf-0001b2-Gz for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 05:12:35 -0400 Received: from [212.21.114.9] (helo=mail.tribaldata.co.uk) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BlOj7-00031H-Ma for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 05:09:58 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.132 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Percussion and bars rest problem Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 10:09:54 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Percussion and bars rest problem Importance: normal thread-index: AcRrFKiueb/6k0wUSQmDbWXuo7yv+A== Priority: normal From: "Ralph Little" To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 09:12:37 -0000 Hi, Can anybody help with this problem with percussion and bars rest? I am trying to use the short-hand multi-voice \\ syntax and it seems to = break after bars rest. =20 A small example: =20 \version "2.2.1" \score { \drums \new DrumStaff << \time 2/2 \context DrumVoice=3D"1"{s1*2}=20 \context DrumVoice=3D"2"{s1*2} { bassdrum4 r4 sidestick4 r4 R1 r4 r8 sidestick16 ss ss8 ss4 ss8 << {hh8 hh hh hh ~ hh hh hh hh} \\ {bd4. bd8 ss4 r8 bd8} >> } >> } =20 The DrumVoices seem to disappear. If I try to reinstate the drum voices with the 2 context definitions as = at the start, after the bars rest, then I get a couple of empty bars = because of the skips and the source gets really messy. =20 \version "2.2.1" \score { \drums \new DrumStaff << \time 2/2 \context DrumVoice=3D"1"{s1*2}=20 \context DrumVoice=3D"2"{s1*2} { bassdrum4 r4 sidestick4 r4 R1 << \context DrumVoice=3D"1"{s1*2}=20 \context DrumVoice=3D"2"{s1*2} {r4 r8 sidestick16 ss ss8 ss4 ss8} >> << {hh8 hh hh hh ~ hh hh hh hh} \\ {bd4. bd8 ss4 r8 bd8} >> } >> } =20 =20 I've tussled with this for some time. Any help would be greatly appreciated! =20 Regards, Ralph --------- Tribal Data Solutions has moved, please visit our website for more = details http://www.tribaldata.co.uk.=20 This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and are sent on the = basis of our copyright, e-mail and security policy which can be = inspected by visiting http://www.tribaldata.co.uk/policies.asp. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and = delete this message. Thank you. ----------- From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jul 16 07:33:27 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BlQxz-0007N5-D4 for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 07:33:27 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BlQxx-0007LC-92 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 07:33:25 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BlQxv-0007Ku-MS for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 07:33:24 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BlQxv-0007Kk-Gv for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 07:33:23 -0400 Received: from [213.84.26.127] (helo=localhost.localdomain) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1BlQvF-0008So-EG for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 07:30:37 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain.byrd.xs4all.nl (byrd [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6GBUQtf006830; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 13:30:26 +0200 From: Han-Wen Nienhuys MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16631.48210.350973.94@localhost.localdomain> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 13:30:26 +0200 To: Shelagh Subject: nested repeats In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 7.14 under Emacs 21.3.1 X-yoursite-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-yoursite-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: hanwen@xs4all.nl Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: hanwen@xs4all.nl List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 11:33:25 -0000 oneida@tpg.com.au writes: > > Hello, I'm new to the list. I really like Lilypond. Beautiful printouts > but I'm finding using it a big learning curve. > I have a question about syntax of repeats which go like this > 1. 2.- 5. 6. > music notes to first ending :| this ending played *3 :| and this is the > final ending > > I've read throught the documentation but I don't see anythng like this > described. No, you're right. The best would probably be to use manual repeat commands. (check out the doco on the repeatCommands property.) Han-Wen Nienhuys | hanwen@xs4all.nl | http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jul 16 14:28:38 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BlXRm-0001te-K6 for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 14:28:38 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BlXRk-0001t6-C1 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 14:28:36 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BlXRi-0001so-JT for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 14:28:36 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BlXRi-0001sl-Hg for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 14:28:34 -0400 Received: from [192.122.237.2] (helo=nkuaxp.nku.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BlXOb-0005Yj-96 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 14:25:21 -0400 Received: from conversion.NKU.EDU by NKU.EDU (PMDF V6.2 #30729) id <01LCJ69WISVK002VT6@NKU.EDU> for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 14:24:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail.nku.edu (webmail.nku.edu [172.20.20.53]) by NKU.EDU (PMDF V6.2 #30729) with ESMTP id <01LCJ69J3J82002VTS@NKU.EDU> for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 14:24:31 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 14:24:31 -0400 From: Jim Herman Subject: Lilypond Problem Sender: Jim Herman To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Message-id: <40F6EBCD@webmail.nku.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Infinite Mobile Delivery (Hydra) SMTP v3.62.01 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-WebMail-UserID: hermanj@nku.edu X-EXP32-SerialNo: 00002435 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 18:28:36 -0000 I am attempting to download and install Lilypond from the internet. Every time I attempt to download it, I get to about 1% of the total and then I get a message that says "Download incomplete. Try Again?" If I try again, I get a message saying that it cannot access the server. What should I do? Thanks, - Jim If a composer could say what he had to say in words he would not bother trying to say it in music. ~Gustav Mahler Music is the universal language of mankind. ~Henry Wadsworth Longfellow The joy of music should never be interrupted by a commercial. ~Leonard Bernstein After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music. ~Aldous Huxley From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jul 16 16:24:23 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BlZFm-0001ua-SP for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 16:24:23 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BlZFl-0001uV-3L for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 16:24:21 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BlZFi-0001uJ-HJ for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 16:24:20 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BlZFi-0001uG-Dh for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 16:24:18 -0400 Received: from [128.187.22.98] (helo=Damato.exch.ad.byu.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BlZD6-0001ah-Q2 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 16:21:36 -0400 Received: from STRONG.exch.ad.byu.edu ([128.187.22.100]) by Damato.exch.ad.byu.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Fri, 16 Jul 2004 14:21:36 -0600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Semi-globally changing fonts Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 14:21:33 -0600 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Semi-globally changing fonts Thread-Index: AcRrcnxpGD5wQejUQbSUNfqKyc6irg== From: "Carl D. Sorensen" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jul 2004 20:21:36.0058 (UTC) FILETIME=[7E2DA1A0:01C46B72] Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 20:24:21 -0000 Bert, Can't you just change the text in font.scm so that each font named "cmxxxx" is instead named "aexxxxx"? Granted, this would eliminate all use of cm fonts, but it seems to me that that's what you want for this project. Alternatively, it seems you could add a whole series of fonts in a scheme block with a new font-encoding (e.g. bert-encoding). Then, instead of overriding the font name in your ly file, you'd override the font-encoding, and that would switch you to the ae fonts, rather than the cm fonts. The nice thing about this is that italic, bold, upright, etc. are unaffected by the encoding (and in fact, I suspect that's why the font-name interface is being deprecated). I hope this has been helpful. I haven't tried these ideas, but I believe they'd both get you at least part of what you want. If you need some help with details of how to do the scheme coding, let me know. Carl Sorensen From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jul 16 16:58:16 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BlZmZ-0006eK-Gq for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 16:58:15 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BlZmW-0006e8-Hu for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 16:58:12 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BlZmT-0006dU-P4 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 16:58:11 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BlZmT-0006dJ-F7 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 16:58:09 -0400 Received: from [128.187.22.98] (helo=Damato.exch.ad.byu.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BlZjK-0004uC-Ic for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 16:54:54 -0400 Received: from STRONG.exch.ad.byu.edu ([128.187.22.100]) by Damato.exch.ad.byu.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Fri, 16 Jul 2004 14:54:53 -0600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: nested repeats Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 14:54:53 -0600 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: nested repeats Thread-Index: AcRrdyROTlFtICLCR9+hQenM/tRJNg== From: "Carl D. Sorensen" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jul 2004 20:54:53.0840 (UTC) FILETIME=[24F2F900:01C46B77] Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 20:58:12 -0000 Here's an example of one way to do it. I used the manual repeat syntax at=20 http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.2/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Manual- repeat-commands.html#Manual%20repeat%20commands The partial measure syntax described at=20 http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.2/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Partial -measures.html#Partial%20measures was necessary to make sure that the bar lines matched up properly on the final ending. \score { \notes \relative c'' { c4 \set Score.repeatCommands =3D #'((volta "1")) d4 d4 d4 \set Score.repeatCommands =3D #'((volta "2-4") end-repeat) e4 e4 e4 \set Score.repeatCommands =3D #'((volta "5") end-repeat) \partial 2. f4 f4 f4 \set Score.repeatCommands =3D #'((volta #f)) g4 g4 g4 g4 } \paper {} } I hope this helps. Carl Sorensen From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jul 16 17:11:12 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BlZz6-0008IZ-HW for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 17:11:12 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BlZz4-0008I6-OP for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 17:11:10 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BlZz3-0008Hu-AB for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 17:11:10 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BlZz3-0008Hr-7S for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 17:11:09 -0400 Received: from [128.187.22.98] (helo=Damato.exch.ad.byu.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BlZw4-0006CX-D7 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 17:08:04 -0400 Received: from STRONG.exch.ad.byu.edu ([128.187.22.100]) by Damato.exch.ad.byu.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Fri, 16 Jul 2004 15:08:03 -0600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: jazz articulations Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 15:08:01 -0600 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Re: jazz articulations Thread-Index: AcRrePo/kUyHnEwITq2fmYnW5qfxXA== From: "Carl D. Sorensen" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jul 2004 21:08:03.0576 (UTC) FILETIME=[FBAB1F80:01C46B78] Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 21:11:10 -0000 This is embedded postscript code. You can find a reference for postscript commands at http://www-cdf.fnal.gov/offline/PostScript/PLRM2.pdf. The rcurveto function is described on page 469. The ps function rcurveto draws a bezier curve from the current point to the third point in the argument list, using the first two points as control points, with all coordinates expressed as relative distances from the current point. Thus, "0 -1 -0.7 -1.8 -1.2 -2 rcurveto" will draw a bezier curve from the current position to a point that is -1.2 units in the x direction and -2 units in the y direction from the current position, using the _relative_ points 0,-1 and -0.7,-1.8 as control points along the way. In lilypond, (almost?) all units are defined in terms of the staff spacing, so 1.0 would be one staff space. Hope this helps. Carl Sorensen From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jul 16 18:40:45 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BlbNl-00054P-Jk for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 18:40:45 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BlbNi-00054E-O6 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 18:40:44 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BlbNh-00053p-1F for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 18:40:42 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BlbNg-00053m-Ug for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 18:40:41 -0400 Received: from [128.187.22.97] (helo=Rowan.exch.ad.byu.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BlbL5-0006Mz-48 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 18:37:59 -0400 Received: from STRONG.exch.ad.byu.edu ([128.187.22.100]) by Rowan.exch.ad.byu.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Fri, 16 Jul 2004 16:37:58 -0600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: lilypond-book rotates some elements Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 16:37:55 -0600 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: lilypond-book rotates some elements Thread-Index: AcRrhYlHS8Qbp9jeRsOGHnmpoS4FlQ== From: "Carl D. Sorensen" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jul 2004 22:37:58.0307 (UTC) FILETIME=[8B2DBF30:01C46B85] Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 22:40:44 -0000 I tried to duplicate your problem to see if I could find what was wrong, but your lilypond files aren't there. Perhaps you could post a link to a .tar or .zip file that included all the lilypond files? 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lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BlnqA-0000an-HK for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Jul 2004 07:58:54 -0400 Received: from [130.238.7.33] (helo=limicola.its.uu.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BlnnE-0003f0-5q for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Jul 2004 07:55:52 -0400 Received: by limicola.its.uu.se (Postfix, from userid 205) id 8128D4480A; Sat, 17 Jul 2004 13:55:50 +0200 (MSZ) Received: from limicola.its.uu.se(127.0.0.1) by limicola.its.uu.se via virus-scan id s3613; Sat, 17 Jul 04 13:55:41 +0200 Received: from nl04-163-41.student.uu.se (regulus3.student.uu.se [130.238.5.5]) by limicola.its.uu.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 650A48808 for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2004 13:55:41 +0200 (MSZ) From: Erik Sandberg Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: systems overlapping Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 13:55:40 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <70FAEB35-D707-11D8-BD36-003065643A74@xhero.org> In-Reply-To: <70FAEB35-D707-11D8-BD36-003065643A74@xhero.org> X-Answer: 42 X-All-Your-Base: Are Belong To Us X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200407171355.41180.ersa9195@student.uu.se> X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: erik.sandberg.9195@student.uu.se List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 11:58:56 -0000 On Friday 16 July 2004 11.06, Rodolfo W.Zitellini wrote: > Hi, > I'm quite new to this program, and for exercise I was trying to typeset > the score of a mass, with nine staves. > I have made a separate input file for each voice and I include them > using \include in a top level file containing the \score context. While > the music gets typeset correctly, I get that in every page there are > two systems that overlap. I have read trough the manual but I didn't > find any help: I tried changing the font size (but I always get two or > more systems overlapping!), and forcing page breaks. > Can anyone help me? > I am using lilypond 2.3.1, and my top-level file looks like this: First, I recommend you to use the 2.2 series if you're new to lilypond. 2.3 has a few improvements, but also a few more bugs (in particular, early 2.3 versions have bugs related to page layout - this could be the problem in your case). Erik From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jul 17 12:10:30 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Blrle-0007Tg-Cy for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Jul 2004 12:10:30 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Blrlc-0007TY-Fk for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Jul 2004 12:10:28 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Blrla-0007SZ-G3 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Jul 2004 12:10:28 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Blrla-0007SU-De for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Jul 2004 12:10:26 -0400 Received: from [212.216.176.206] (helo=vsmtp12.tin.it) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Blril-0004Za-V3 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Jul 2004 12:07:32 -0400 Received: from [192.168.4.100] (80.116.86.88) by vsmtp12.tin.it (7.0.027) id 40B33B7C00C8DFC4 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Jul 2004 18:07:27 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) In-Reply-To: <200407171355.41180.ersa9195@student.uu.se> References: <70FAEB35-D707-11D8-BD36-003065643A74@xhero.org> <200407171355.41180.ersa9195@student.uu.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Message-Id: <60B23524-D80B-11D8-BD36-003065643A74@xhero.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Rodolfo W. Zitellini Subject: Re: systems overlapping & lyrics Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 18:07:18 +0200 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 16:10:28 -0000 OK, I downgraded to 2.2 and everything works great! Thanks! BTW I now have some attaching lyrics to the music. I define all my music and lyrics using voicex =3D \notes {} and lyricx =3D= =20 \lyrics {} in an separate file for every part. Than I recall all parts in a=20 top-level file with the \score context. I browsed the manual to find information on=20 lyrics, and it says to use \lyricsto. But \lyricsto wants I voice specified, so I also create a=20 \context voice for the staff. It looks like this: \context Voice =3D canto { \staffH } \context Lyrics =3D canto { s1 } \context Lyrics =3D canto \lyricsto sopranos \cantoI where staffH =3D \notes {} and cantoI =3D =F7lyrics {} Using this method I get two staves, one empty and one containing the=20 music, nut no lyrics. I also tried using a \context Lyrucs =3Dcanto \cantoI after \staffH in = my=20 \score, and I get the lyrics correctly aligned with the music, the stems of the corresponding=20= notes do not get separated on the same syllable. Thanks again, Rodolfo Il giorno 17/lug/04, alle 13:55, Erik Sandberg ha scritto: > On Friday 16 July 2004 11.06, Rodolfo W.Zitellini wrote: >> Hi, >> I'm quite new to this program, and for exercise I was trying to=20 >> typeset >> the score of a mass, with nine staves. >> I have made a separate input file for each voice and I include them >> using \include in a top level file containing the \score context.=20 >> While >> the music gets typeset correctly, I get that in every page there are >> two systems that overlap. I have read trough the manual but I didn't >> find any help: I tried changing the font size (but I always get two = or >> more systems overlapping!), and forcing page breaks. >> Can anyone help me? >> I am using lilypond 2.3.1, and my top-level file looks like this: > > First, I recommend you to use the 2.2 series if you're new to=20 > lilypond. 2.3 > has a few improvements, but also a few more bugs (in particular, early=20= > 2.3 > versions have bugs related to page layout - this could be the problem=20= > in your > case). > > Erik From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jul 17 17:01:51 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BlwJb-0001A5-00 for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Jul 2004 17:01:51 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BlwJZ-00019u-FI for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Jul 2004 17:01:49 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BlwJE-00018w-EN for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Jul 2004 17:01:49 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BlwJE-00018t-9q; Sat, 17 Jul 2004 17:01:28 -0400 Received: from [199.232.41.8] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1BlwGM-0007nn-Vm; Sat, 17 Jul 2004 16:58:33 -0400 Received: from [4.46.130.39] (helo=sysmofytten.dk) by mx20.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BlwFi-0005mL-OR; Sat, 17 Jul 2004 16:57:53 -0400 Received: from 143.72.237.75 by smtp.praxa.com.au; Sat, 17 Jul 2004 20:56:46 +0000 Message-ID: <958a01c46c40$6b2f8506$8beee5e0@sysmofytten.dk> From: rmfrazierus@praxa.com.au To: lilypond-user@gnu.org, lilypond-devel@gnu.org Subject: $85145 Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 01:56:43 +0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 21:01:49 -0000 Hi, We sent you an email a while ago, because you now qualify for a new mortgage. 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Please click on this link for free consultation: http://cash-market.info/p3/li.php?weo=71 Best Regards, Jamie Higgs ---- system information ---- usage archive contrast part revised implementers store form [Definition: such Group data processing example do operation Usage world control localized similar example: and suggesting From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jul 17 18:44:25 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Blxur-00088N-Hb for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Jul 2004 18:44:25 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Blxup-00088H-JV for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Jul 2004 18:44:23 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BlxuR-000872-Ip for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Jul 2004 18:44:23 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BlxuR-00086l-H2 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Jul 2004 18:43:59 -0400 Received: from [210.50.76.196] (helo=smtp02.syd.iprimus.net.au) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BlxrP-0001Ug-5z for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Jul 2004 18:40:52 -0400 Received: from primus.com.au (210.50.44.91) by smtp02.syd.iprimus.net.au (7.0.028) id 40F5D503000E07A1 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 08:39:59 +1000 Received: from bmcintyre by primus.com.au with local (Exim 4.34) id 1BlxqX-0005UX-O3 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 08:39:57 +1000 Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 08:39:57 +1000 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Percussion and bars rest problem Message-ID: <20040717223957.GA20020@primus.com.au> Mail-Followup-To: lilypond-user@gnu.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040523i From: Bruce McIntyre X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 22:44:23 -0000 Hi Ralph. This problem was bugging me too. Unfortunately the docs don't explain that you have to force the drumvoice to be as long as the piece if you want it to be robust... Change {s1*2} to {s1*n} where n = how many bars you want the drumvoice to persist for... Cheers, Bruce. On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 10:09:54AM +0100, Ralph Little wrote: > Hi, > Can anybody help with this problem with percussion and bars rest? > I am trying to use the short-hand multi-voice \\ syntax and it seems to break after bars rest. > > A small example: > > \version "2.2.1" > \score { > \drums \new DrumStaff << > \time 2/2 > \context DrumVoice="1"{s1*2} > \context DrumVoice="2"{s1*2} > { > bassdrum4 r4 sidestick4 r4 > R1 > r4 r8 sidestick16 ss ss8 ss4 ss8 > << > {hh8 hh hh hh ~ hh hh hh hh} \\ > {bd4. bd8 ss4 r8 bd8} > >> > } > >> > } > > The DrumVoices seem to disappear. > If I try to reinstate the drum voices with the 2 context definitions as at the start, after the bars rest, then I get a couple of empty bars because of the skips and the source gets really messy. > > \version "2.2.1" > \score { > \drums \new DrumStaff << > \time 2/2 > \context DrumVoice="1"{s1*2} > \context DrumVoice="2"{s1*2} > { > bassdrum4 r4 sidestick4 r4 > R1 > << > \context DrumVoice="1"{s1*2} > \context DrumVoice="2"{s1*2} > {r4 r8 sidestick16 ss ss8 ss4 ss8} > >> > << > {hh8 hh hh hh ~ hh hh hh hh} \\ > {bd4. bd8 ss4 r8 bd8} > >> > } > >> > } > > > I've tussled with this for some time. > Any help would be greatly appreciated! > > Regards, > Ralph > > --------- > Tribal Data Solutions has moved, please visit our website for more details http://www.tribaldata.co.uk. > This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and are sent on the basis of our copyright, e-mail and security policy which can be inspected by visiting http://www.tribaldata.co.uk/policies.asp. > If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete this message. Thank you. > ----------- > > _______________________________________________ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jul 17 19:53:59 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Blz0B-0003D5-CH for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Jul 2004 19:53:59 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Blz09-0003Cf-J5 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Jul 2004 19:53:57 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Blyzu-000395-FJ for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Jul 2004 19:53:57 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Blyzu-00038z-Ba for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Jul 2004 19:53:42 -0400 Received: from [195.70.32.130] (helo=mail.interware.hu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BlyxB-0007xT-JB for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Jul 2004 19:50:54 -0400 Received: from caracas-1639.adsl.interware.hu ([213.178.106.103]) by mail.interware.hu with esmtp (Exim 4.34 #1 (Debian)) id 1Blyx2-0005LK-0T; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 01:50:44 +0200 Message-ID: <40F9BB49.2040103@freemail.hu> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 01:50:33 +0200 From: Bertalan Fodor User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (Windows/20040626) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Carl D. Sorensen" Subject: Re: Semi-globally changing fonts References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 23:53:57 -0000 >Can't you just change the text in font.scm so that each font named >"cmxxxx" is instead named "aexxxxx"? > > I could, but that way, all upgrade of lilypond would replace my settings. And I should also set the lilypond script to use the ae package (encoding). >Alternatively, it seems you could add a whole series of fonts in a >scheme block with a new font-encoding (e.g. bert-encoding). > > That would be the perfect solution. I will look at the font-encoding property. >If you need some help with details of how to do the scheme coding, let >me know. > > > That's a very nice offer :-) Thanks, I will write if I get stuck. Bert From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jul 18 06:05:11 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bm8Xe-0006uV-Nf for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 06:05:11 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bm8Xc-0006uP-P0 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 06:05:09 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bm8XZ-0006uD-Q6 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 06:05:07 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bm8XZ-0006uA-9C for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 06:05:05 -0400 Received: from [213.84.26.127] (helo=localhost.localdomain) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1Bm8UV-0003vd-SA for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 06:01:56 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain.byrd.xs4all.nl (byrd [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6IA1t85017843; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 12:01:55 +0200 From: Han-Wen Nienhuys MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16634.19091.159508.253149@localhost.localdomain> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 12:01:55 +0200 To: Bertalan Fodor Subject: Semi-globally changing fonts In-Reply-To: <40F5AB20.2080506@freemail.hu> References: <40F5AB20.2080506@freemail.hu> X-Mailer: VM 7.14 under Emacs 21.3.1 X-yoursite-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-yoursite-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: hanwen@xs4all.nl Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: hanwen@xs4all.nl List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 10:05:09 -0000 fodber@freemail.hu writes: > Hello, > > I'm working on a songbook and must use ae fonts instead of cm. That > means in lyrics I can easily tell in a common paper block: > \LyricsContext \override LyricText font-name = #"aeb10" > > However, using the same for TextScripts is not fine, because there are > many style of them (italic, bold, plain). (And this can occur for Lyrics > texts as well, but not so often.) So I must define a font for italic, > bold, etc. > > So how can I redefine the settings in font.scm in my common paper block? > I tried including the same in a Scheme block but that didn't work. I have included in the 2.3 release a font-postscript.ly which shows how to do this. It should also work in 2.2 -- Han-Wen Nienhuys | hanwen@xs4all.nl | http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jul 18 07:41:16 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BmA2d-0005eX-Ua for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 07:41:16 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BmA2c-0005df-4v for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 07:41:14 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BmA2a-0005dD-IS for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 07:41:13 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BmA2Y-0005cp-Nf; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 07:41:10 -0400 Received: from [130.238.4.153] (helo=pernis.its.uu.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bm9zm-0004XO-Nl; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 07:38:19 -0400 Received: by pernis.its.uu.se (Postfix, from userid 205) id B6AB689E; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 13:38:07 +0200 (MSZ) Received: from pernis.its.uu.se(127.0.0.1) by pernis.its.uu.se via virus-scan id s1179; Sun, 18 Jul 04 13:38:02 +0200 Received: from nl04-163-41.student.uu.se (regulus3.student.uu.se [130.238.5.5]) by pernis.its.uu.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id A711C17954; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 13:38:00 +0200 (MSZ) From: Erik Sandberg Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs To: lilypond-user@gnu.org, erik.sandberg.9195@student.uu.se Subject: Re: crash-axis-group-engraver Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 13:38:00 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <40E2E3A2.4090203@s3.kth.se> <200406302139.23327.ersa9195@student.uu.se> In-Reply-To: <200406302139.23327.ersa9195@student.uu.se> X-Answer: 42 X-All-Your-Base: Are Belong To Us X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200407181338.00217.ersa9195@student.uu.se> Cc: Ralph Little , bug-lilypond@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: erik.sandberg.9195@student.uu.se List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 11:41:14 -0000 On Wednesday 30 June 2004 21.39, Erik Sandberg wrote: > Added this to repository as crash-axis-group-engraver.ly > > %crash important > %ralph.little@tribaldata.co.uk > \header {texidoc = "lilypond hangs during 'Preprocessing graphical > objects...' Problem disappears if you remove the comment." } > \version "2.2.3" > \score{ > \notes\new StaffGroup << > \new Staff {c1 c c c c c c c \break e e e e e e e e \break d1 d d d d > d d d} > \new Staff {c1 c c c c c c c \break R1*8 d1 d d d d d d d} > \new Staff \with { > % \remove "Axis_group_engraver" > \consistsend "Hara_kiri_engraver" > }{c1 c c c c c c c R1*8 d1 d d d d d d d} > > } This bug has now been fixed. Erik From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jul 18 08:17:45 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BmAbw-0004Z4-US for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 08:17:45 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BmAbv-0004Ym-FG for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 08:17:43 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BmAbt-0004YO-Ew for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 08:17:43 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BmAbt-0004YE-B9 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 08:17:41 -0400 Received: from [194.217.242.91] (helo=anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BmAYx-00009U-Rj for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 08:14:40 -0400 Received: from bowtell.demon.co.uk ([80.177.19.159] helo=dan.bowtell.demon.co.uk) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1BmAYw-000HZV-0X for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 13:14:38 +0100 Received: by dan.bowtell.demon.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BABEF53B30; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 13:12:34 +0100 (BST) From: Dan Bowtell To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: lilypond-book rotates some elements Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 13:12:34 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200407181312.34245.vrih@bowtell.demon.co.uk> X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 12:17:43 -0000 On Friday 16 Jul 2004 23:37, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: > I tried to duplicate your problem to see if I could find what was wrong, > but your lilypond files aren't there. > > Perhaps you could post a link to a .tar or .zip file that included all > the lilypond files? > > Carl Sorensen I solved the problem by running dvips again and restarting xdvi. I'm just not quite sure why I had to do this. Most of the time it works fine without having to take those steps. Just occasionally it has to be done. -- http://www.danbowtell.co.uk/ From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jul 18 11:40:42 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BmDmM-0006nO-0k for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 11:40:42 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BmDmK-0006nG-Ip for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 11:40:40 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BmDmI-0006mx-T4 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 11:40:40 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BmDmI-0006mn-PY for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 11:40:38 -0400 Received: from [64.233.170.201] (helo=mproxy.gmail.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BmDjc-0003i7-RN for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 11:37:53 -0400 Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 55so100346rni for ; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 08:37:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.92.8 with SMTP id p8mr239863rnb; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 08:37:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <29046db1040718083768786512@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 16:37:48 +0100 From: Russ Ross To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: notes in the meter line of the header Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 15:40:40 -0000 Anyone know of a way to include a note in the "meter" line of the header? For example: \header { title = "Old MacDonald Had a Farm" meter = "** = 60" } only with ** replaced by a quarter note. Thanks, Russ From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jul 18 19:35:44 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BmLC4-0006R6-SZ for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 19:35:44 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BmLC3-0006R0-9l for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 19:35:43 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BmLC2-0006Qn-8r for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 19:35:42 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BmLC2-0006Qk-4W for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 19:35:42 -0400 Received: from [203.12.160.113] (helo=mail.tpgi.com.au) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1BmL98-0000vt-08 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 19:32:42 -0400 Received: from pandorasbox (kia-ts1-2600-171.tpgi.com.au [202.7.212.171]) by mail.tpgi.com.au (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6INWV0i004147 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 09:32:34 +1000 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 09:33:51 +1000 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Raising markups From: Shelagh Message-ID: User-Agent: Opera7.23/Linux M2 build 518 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=utf-8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-TPG-Antivirus: Passed X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 23:35:43 -0000 I was waondering how you would raise markups when they are of the sort \mark \markup { \musicglyph #"scripts-segno"}. I tried experimenting with \raise # 2.0 and the realised this was only in relation to the other markup text. I tried to follow the padding commands but I didn't 'get it'. Any suggestions? Shelagh PS Before I sent this I did one further experiment. I \mark \markup {" " \raise #3.0 \musicglyph #"sript-coda"} And it worked. Maybe this will be useful for others. But I'd still like to know how to use the padding command for these items in a global override? SOM From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jul 18 21:28:17 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BmMwz-0002K6-EH for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 21:28:17 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BmMwx-0002I5-9f for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 21:28:15 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BmMwu-0002HF-2E for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 21:28:14 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BmMwt-0002H5-W7 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 21:28:12 -0400 Received: from [216.148.227.85] (helo=rwcrmhc12.comcast.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BmMu6-0003kW-P3 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 21:25:18 -0400 Received: from [192.168.123.154] (c-67-161-219-143.client.comcast.net[67.161.219.143]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <2004071901251701400399ane> (Authid: carldsorensen); Mon, 19 Jul 2004 01:25:17 +0000 Subject: notes in the meter line of the header From: Carl Sorensen To: russross@gmail.com, lilypond-user@gnu.org In-Reply-To: 29046db1040718083768786512@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1090192755.1048.11.camel@lily_fedora> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 (1.4.6-2) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 19:19:16 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 01:28:15 -0000 Isn't this a misuse of the meter line in the heading? I thought that meter was used not to show the timing, but rather to show the number of syllables per line in hymn tunes, e.g. 8:8:8:8. I think the place to indicate the speed of the piece is with a metronome mark: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.2/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Metronome-marks.html#Metronome%20marks This piece of documentation shows how to get a mark like quarter note = 105. Hope this helps. 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From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jul 19 05:22:22 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BmULm-0003ev-OI for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 05:22:22 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BmULk-0003ef-R7 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 05:22:20 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BmULi-0003dg-Rm for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 05:22:20 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BmULi-0003dd-NY for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 05:22:18 -0400 Received: from [212.21.114.9] (helo=mail.tribaldata.co.uk) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BmUIk-0004K2-3Z for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 05:19:14 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.132 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 10:19:10 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: thread-index: AcRtcXN1i3DmVqkITuKU/QyOljYKVQ== Importance: normal From: "Ralph Little" Priority: normal To: "Bruce McIntyre" Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 09:22:21 -0000 Hi Bruce, Many thanks for that. When you put it like that it makes perfect sense! I'll give it a try! Regards, Ralph > Hi Ralph.=20 > > This problem was bugging me too. Unfortunately the docs don't explain > that you have to force the drumvoice to be as long as the piece if you > want it to be robust... > > Change {s1*2} to {s1*n} where n =3D how many bars you want the = drumvoice > to persist for...=20 >=20 > Cheers, > Bruce. --------- Tribal Data Solutions has moved, please visit our website for more = details http://www.tribaldata.co.uk.=20 This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and are sent on the = basis of our copyright, e-mail and security policy which can be = inspected by visiting http://www.tribaldata.co.uk/policies.asp. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and = delete this message. Thank you. ----------- From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jul 19 13:18:12 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BmbmG-00028g-LH for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 13:18:12 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BmbmA-00027o-3o for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 13:18:06 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bmbm7-00026Z-OS for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 13:18:04 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bmbm7-00025c-Kk for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 13:18:03 -0400 Received: from [62.235.13.172] (helo=spoolo1.tiscali.be) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BmbiY-0004Vc-C9 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 13:14:22 -0400 Received: from [83.134.4.248] (helo=[192.168.1.1]) by spoolo1.tiscali.be with esmtp (Tiscali.be http://www.tiscali.be) id 1BmbiW-0005sZ-8N for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 19:14:20 +0200 Message-ID: <40FC0F7C.6000108@wol.be> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 19:14:20 +0100 From: Raphael Slinckx User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (Windows/20040502) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Notes spacing Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 17:18:06 -0000 Hi ! I have a problem with notes horizontal spacing, I want the score to be less cluttered, so here is my \paper block \paper { \context { \ScoreContext \override SpacingSpanner #'spacing-increment = #5.0 } #(set-paper-size "a4") } As written in the docs, it works but only for the beginning of the song, then after 10 measures (and maybe a page break), the notes are cluttered again ! Is there something that break the spacing command ? Or does it applies only to the first page ? Can other "tweaks" affect this setting ? Many thanks ! 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From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jul 19 16:23:15 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BmefL-0005os-IK for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 16:23:15 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BmefK-0005mu-1T for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 16:23:14 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BmefH-0005kp-Dd for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 16:23:13 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BmefH-0005kJ-BL for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 16:23:11 -0400 Received: from [213.84.26.127] (helo=localhost.localdomain) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1BmecG-0001XO-6G for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 16:20:04 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain.byrd.xs4all.nl (byrd [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6JKKEEx012285; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 22:20:14 +0200 From: Han-Wen Nienhuys MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16636.11518.106306.319947@localhost.localdomain> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 22:20:14 +0200 To: dskoog@mindspring.com Subject: Re: LilyPond 2.3.7 is out In-Reply-To: References: <16635.2881.541765.374055@localhost.localdomain> X-Mailer: VM 7.14 under Emacs 21.3.1 X-yoursite-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-yoursite-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: hanwen@xs4all.nl Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: hanwen@xs4all.nl List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 20:23:14 -0000 dskoog@mindspring.com writes: > Can you add 2.3.7 to Fink so that we MAC users could install it? 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(nhaggin@67.173.88.175 with plain) by smtp106.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Jul 2004 21:04:37 -0000 Message-ID: <40FC385F.305@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 16:08:47 -0500 From: Nicholas Haggin User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (X11/20040630) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Vaticana context spacing and other things X-Enigmail-Version: 0.84.2.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 21:07:42 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Greetings, all. I have two questions, one of which is probably only marginally related to Lilypond, so I'll ask it first. I'm putting together a hymnal to be typeset by lilypond-book. As those of you who work in church music know, hymnals often have metrical indices of the melodies as well as indices by title, composer, author, etc. Does anyone know of a TeX/LaTeX macro package for assisting in assembling said indices, or would I have to write my own? The second question is about glyph spacing in a VaticanaVoice context; among the contents of my hymnal will be a few chant pieces, and I'd like to set them using the square-note notation. Spacing in the VaticanaVoice context is a little shaky at present (I've tried both the 2.2 and 2.3 series); is there any way to fudge it manually so large spaces do not occur after long melismas? - -- Nicholas Haggin A.M.D.G. 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Something to do with Staff vs. Voice? 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I would like to align my stanza numbers closer to the lyrics. I had it working correctly in older versions using "stanza" and later "instrumentname." I'm trying to get it to work now using "vocalName." I've included an example of what I was experimenting with below. \version "2.2.0" \score { << \notes \relative c'' \context Voice = duet { \time 3/4 g2 e4 \break a2 f4 g2. } \lyrics << \lyricsto "duet" \new Lyrics { \override VocalName #'self-alignment-Y = #-1 % \override VocalName #'break-align-symbol = #'Time_signature \override VocalName #'break-align-symbol = #'begin-of-note \set vocalName = "1." \set vocNam = "1." Hi, my name is bert. } \lyricsto "duet" \new Lyrics { \override VocalName #'self-alignment-Y = #-1 % \override VocalName #'break-align-symbol = #'Time_signature % \override VocalName #'break-align-symbol = #'begin-of-note \set vocalName = "2." \set vocNam = "2." Ooooo, ch\'e -- ri, je t'aime. } >> >> } When I use "\override vocalName" I get an error that vocalName is an unknown grob. When I use a capital V in VocalName, I can get the stanza number inside the staff group. When I use nothing at all, the stanza number appears before the staff group. How can I fix my problem and get my stanza numbers to align close to the lyrics, like I had before? 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Thanks in advance, Fr=E9d=E9ric ----------------------------------------------------------- Fr=E9d=E9ric Bron (frederic.bron@m4x.org) Villa des Quatre Chemins, Centre Hospitalier, BP 208 38506 VOIRON CEDEX t=E9l. : (33) 4 76 67 17 27 From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jul 21 05:42:21 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BnDcC-0001hh-EX for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 05:42:20 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BnDc9-0001h0-78 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 05:42:17 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BnDc6-0001g4-L0 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 05:42:16 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BnDc6-0001fn-6N for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 05:42:14 -0400 Received: from [80.91.224.249] (helo=main.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BnDZ6-0005Bq-IZ for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 05:39:08 -0400 Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BnDZ5-0002QJ-00 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 11:39:07 +0200 Received: from pd9ff2b70.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.255.43.112]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 11:39:06 +0200 Received: from blacktrash by pd9ff2b70.dip.t-dialin.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 11:39:06 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: lilypond-user@gnu.org To: lilypond-user@gnu.org From: Christian Ebert Subject: Re: font-name in markup Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 09:53:55 +0200 Organization: Black Trash Productions Lines: 22 Message-ID: <2004-07-21.07-46-58@krille.blacktrash.org> References: <2004-07-14.07-27-27@krille.blacktrash.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pd9ff2b70.dip.t-dialin.net Mail-Copies-To: nobody X-Face: ":Ume}YcUEc!<)-M&h5@F5&g51d^AlhDM0Tc#@}c?;QGTZqz7fb"wR|NJA]!CGZ~?>.$ User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Darwin) Sender: news X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: blacktrash@gmx.org List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 09:42:17 -0000 * Christian Ebert on Wed, Jul 14, 2004: > \property Lyrics . LyricText \override #'font-name = #'"lsbrj8t" > > Is there a way to do the same for markup? Just for the record: \property Staff . TextScript \override #'font-name = #'"lsbbj8t" and \property Score . BarNumber \override #'font-name = #'"lsbrj8t" do what I want for me (I just had to unearth the right grobs (?)) as in my small project I don't need font switches like \bold etc. and that way I didn't have to frickle with the global .scm files. c -- Wenn Gott unsre Welt vollkommen geschaffen hätte, wie Bach die göttliche! - E. M. Cioran, Das Buch der Täuschungen From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jul 21 13:40:25 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BnL4r-00011G-D8 for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 13:40:25 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BnL4p-00010o-VA for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 13:40:24 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BnL4o-00010N-54 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 13:40:23 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BnL4o-00010K-2F for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 13:40:22 -0400 Received: from [64.233.170.195] (helo=mproxy.gmail.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BnL1w-0002k4-8e for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 13:37:24 -0400 Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 55so15409rni for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 10:37:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.206.28 with SMTP id d28mr40576rng; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 10:37:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <29046db104072110375366abc7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 18:37:23 +0100 From: Russ Ross To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: repeats and lyrics Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:40:24 -0000 I'm a bit confused about how to use repeats with lyrics. I've included a snippet from a chorale below. As is, it gives one warning and points to part of the repeat statement in the lyrics: warning: no one to print a repeat brace: \repeat fold 2 { } \alternative { but the output is as I expected, namely: notes | notes :| more notes words one unrepeated words words two When I uncomment the lines to include the alto line, I get the same warning (twice this time) and a bunch of junked lyric event warnings. The result is the same for the soprano line, but the alto line on gets the first verse before the repeat (but correctly continues after the repeat). Can anyone lend me a bit of insight as to what I'm doing wrong? I'd like to understand (and correct) the warning as well as get the second line of alto lyrics printing correctly (the tenor and bass lines suffer from the same problem). Supplying different notes and lyrics for the alto doesn't help, i.e., the problem doesn't seem to be related to my re-use of the same notes and lyrics in this example. 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I checked the docs as well as the archives, but couldn't find an answer to the following question: is it possible to make a scordatura? I did find how to make a keysignature-scordatura, and tried to manipulate the code in order to make it work with notes instead of keysignatures, but with no result (I didn't expect a result, really...) I also messed around with ambitus, which behaved as I expected, but wasn't really helpful for making scordatura. Can anyone tell me if it is possible to make (or fake) scordatura at all in Lilypond? 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Zimnoch" Subject: Re: lily pond note interface In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 09:11:47 -0000 At 09:49 AM 7/22/2004, c h wrote: > Do you have to enter "commands" for Lily Pond to work? In other sheet > music programs, you simply grab notes and drag them onto the staff. > > I was really excited about the engraving quality of the Lily Pond > notes on the website. But I think I came to a horrifying conclusion > that you have to "program" your notes in Lily Pond. > > That's CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!! Welcome to the Unix software model. Lots of highly specialized, fully customizeable tools that do a specific task well. Lilypond does engraving. If you want a GUI, find another tool for GUI manipulation of music that exports lilypond, e.g. Noteedit. -Todd From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jul 23 05:13:08 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bnw72-0005PP-7v for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 05:13:08 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bnw70-0005OQ-Bh for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 05:13:06 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bnw6y-0005N0-Bx for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 05:13:05 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bnw6y-0005Mu-5F for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 05:13:04 -0400 Received: from [212.21.114.9] (helo=mail.tribaldata.co.uk) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bnw3p-0005uH-OU for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 05:09:49 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.132 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: lily pond note interface Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 10:08:43 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Re: lily pond note interface thread-index: AcRwlI1xGSOYeQsPSV+w3Zg6c18YGQ== Importance: normal Priority: normal From: "Ralph Little" To: Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 09:13:06 -0000 Hi, I am assuming that this is not just a bait.... No, actually it makes more sense to enter music in this way. After using Lilypond for some time now, I find it far quicker and convenient that mouse-twiddling. Lilypond actually does the vast majority of the positioning work for you which saves a lot of unnecessary work. Although the manual touches on a lot of different issues, formats, types of music, the vast majority of casual users need only look at the first few pages of the tutorial to get going for simple parts etc. Give it a go, it's well worth a try! Regards, Ralph Hello, Do you have to enter "commands" for Lily Pond to work? In other sheet music=20 programs, you simply grab notes and drag them onto the staff. I was really excited about the engraving quality of the Lily Pond notes on=20 the website. But I think I came to a horrifying conclusion that you have to=20 "program" your notes in Lily Pond. 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Unfortunatly, the PMX export gives bad results. Perhaps a PMX guru could review the NoteEdit output and tell me what's wrong o Please prefer the build-in markers, if any! For example: Never use the text tool for D. S. al Fine! Use the Segno signs instead. The reason is: NoteEdit ignores every text during replay. In contrast: The Segno signs control the replay. + Triplet recognition from MIDI file + The snap distance selection (MIDI import) is back (again). -- J.Anders, Chemnitz, GERMANY (ja@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de) From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jul 23 17:44:15 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bo7pv-0000Vt-M3 for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 17:44:15 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bo7pu-0000U2-HR for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 17:44:14 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bo7pt-0000TA-PG for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 17:44:14 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bo7pt-0000Sz-Lu for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 17:44:13 -0400 Received: from [194.217.242.88] (helo=anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bo7mf-0007Zu-Ny for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 17:40:53 -0400 Received: from thewolery.demon.co.uk ([158.152.222.21]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1Bo7me-0008NM-0U for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 21:40:52 +0000 Message-ID: <2OYzuoBDXYABFwYs@thewolery.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 22:40:19 +0100 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org From: "Anthony W. Youngman" Subject: Multi-bar rests - can I do what I want? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-U () X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Anthony W. Youngman" List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 21:44:14 -0000 I've got the following in one of my part files... \score { \new Staff { \set Score.skipBars = ##t \notes { << \voiceStaff \TromboneBassC >> } } Notice I've set skipBars to "true". Basically, \voiceStaff contains time signatures, key signatures etc and I want to include it with every part. Each bar consists of "\skip 1*3/4" or whatever. \TromboneBassC contains all the notes for the trombone, and has a fair bit of stuff like R1*3 or whatever. Obviously, in the score these are going to get exploded. But I want them collapsed in the part, and I guess \voiceStaff won't let it :-( I tried putting the R syntax into \voiceStaff, but it then puts rests in the part, messes up the stems, etc etc. Am I going to have to ditch \voiceStaff and put it all in \TromboneBassC, or can I get it to do what I want? Cheers, Wol -- Anthony W. Youngman - wol at thewolery dot demon dot co dot uk HEX wondered how much he should tell the Wizards. He felt it would not be a good idea to burden them with too much input. Hex always thought of his reports as Lies-to-People. 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Message-ID: <20040724162934.GA5086@nomad.lets.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 15:48:31 -0000 Howdy! I have some collisions between a beame inner voice and an outer voice and I need to shorten the stems of notes in the beam. I tried stuff like \override Stem #'beamed-lengths = #'(1.0 1.0 1.0) but it doesn't see to do anything. ideas? thanx - steve From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jul 24 13:11:33 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BoQ3Z-0000Qf-JS for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 13:11:33 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BoQ3X-0000QY-BJ for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 13:11:31 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BoQ3V-0000QK-EZ for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 13:11:31 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BoQ3V-0000QH-8W for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 13:11:29 -0400 Received: from [216.136.173.32] (helo=smtp012.mail.yahoo.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BoQ06-0003Sc-ER for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 13:07:58 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO yahoo.com.br) (jeffersonsfelix@200.168.20.252 with plain) by smtp012.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Jul 2004 17:07:52 -0000 Message-ID: <4102979A.9090105@yahoo.com.br> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 14:08:42 -0300 From: Jefferson dos Santos Felix User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; pt-BR; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: pt-br, pt MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Remove page number Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 17:11:31 -0000 I'm a newbye in lilypond and I have same problems with page layout.... 1 - How do I remove the page numbers int lilypond 2.3.x?? 2 - How do I change margins? thanks, Jefferson From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jul 24 16:47:06 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BoTQA-0006B7-6i for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 16:47:06 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BoTQ8-0006B2-PF for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 16:47:04 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BoTQ7-0006Ao-7C for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 16:47:04 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BoTQ7-0006Al-3m for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 16:47:03 -0400 Received: from [213.84.26.127] (helo=localhost.localdomain) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1BoTMe-0000wy-MH for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 16:43:29 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain.byrd.xs4all.nl (byrd [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6OKhLBp006008; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 22:43:21 +0200 From: Han-Wen Nienhuys MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16642.51689.308224.239153@localhost.localdomain> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 22:43:21 +0200 To: Steve Shorter Subject: Stem beamed-lengths ? In-Reply-To: <20040724162934.GA5086@nomad.lets.net> References: <20040724162934.GA5086@nomad.lets.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.14 under Emacs 21.3.1 X-yoursite-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-yoursite-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: hanwen@xs4all.nl Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: hanwen@xs4all.nl List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 20:47:04 -0000 steve@nomad.tor.lets.net writes: > Howdy! > > I have some collisions between a beame inner voice and an outer voice > and I need to shorten the stems of notes in the beam. I tried stuff like > > \override Stem #'beamed-lengths = #'(1.0 1.0 1.0) > > but it doesn't see to do anything. interesting! Can you post a short example of your problem, with the tweak you tried? -- Han-Wen Nienhuys | hanwen@xs4all.nl | http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jul 24 17:01:18 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BoTdu-000104-RF for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 17:01:18 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BoTdt-0000zm-DI for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 17:01:17 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BoTdr-0000za-J8 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 17:01:17 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BoTdr-0000zX-A6 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 17:01:15 -0400 Received: from [212.227.126.183] (helo=moutng.kundenserver.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BoTaO-0002Rm-9H for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 16:57:40 -0400 Received: from [212.227.126.160] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1BoTaN-0004nk-00 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 22:57:39 +0200 Received: from [84.128.180.1] (helo=papa) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1BoTaM-0001XC-00 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 22:57:38 +0200 From: "Francois Planiol-Auger" To: Subject: AW: Stem beamed-lengths ? Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 22:57:32 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <16642.51689.308224.239153@localhost.localdomain> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:b36ed7e873ccf822f36dae76e3e011e4 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Francois.Planiol@adventisten.de List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 21:01:17 -0000 Hello! I am new (and enthousiastic) for Lilypond. But my first question is a formal one: Isnt it possible to have automatically something like [Lilylist] in the thread? All mails comes to me looking like private Mails. Thanks from Francois Planiol-Auger ---------------------- Diplom Kirchenmusiker Musikbeauftragter der Gemeinschaft der Siebenten-Tags-Adventisten in NRW Abteilung Musik Diepensiepen 18, 40822 Mettmann Tel.: 02104 1390-19 Mobil: 0160 94561426 -> -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- -> Von: lilypond-user-bounces+francois.planiol=adventisten.de@gnu.org -> [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+francois.planiol=adventisten.de@gnu.org]Im -> Auftrag von Han-Wen Nienhuys -> Gesendet: Samstag, 24. Juli 2004 22:43 -> An: Steve Shorter -> Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org -> Betreff: Stem beamed-lengths ? -> -> -> -> steve@nomad.tor.lets.net writes: -> > Howdy! -> > -> > I have some collisions between a beame inner voice and an -> outer voice -> > and I need to shorten the stems of notes in the beam. I tried -> stuff like -> > -> > \override Stem #'beamed-lengths = #'(1.0 1.0 1.0) -> > -> > but it doesn't see to do anything. -> -> -> interesting! Can you post a short example of your problem, with the -> tweak you tried? -> -> -> -- -> -> Han-Wen Nienhuys | hanwen@xs4all.nl | http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen _______________________________________________ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jul 24 17:17:01 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BoTt6-0003lH-Tt for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 17:17:01 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BoQ6P-0001HW-Mh for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 13:14:29 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BoQ6O-0001HK-5x for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 13:14:29 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BoQ6O-0001HH-36 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 13:14:28 -0400 Received: from [216.136.174.113] (helo=smtp016.mail.yahoo.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BoQ30-0003oE-2F for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 13:10:58 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO yahoo.com.br) (jeffersonsfelix@200.168.20.252 with plain) by smtp016.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Jul 2004 17:10:56 -0000 Message-ID: <41029852.2060603@yahoo.com.br> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 14:11:46 -0300 From: Jefferson dos Santos Felix User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; pt-BR; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: pt-br, pt MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Remove page number Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000503070102070209090700" X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 17:16:59 -0400 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 17:14:29 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000503070102070209090700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------000503070102070209090700-- From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jul 24 17:17:01 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BoTt7-0003lL-2D for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 17:17:01 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BoTej-00018T-2V for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 17:02:09 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BoTeh-00018H-LT for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 17:02:08 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BoTeh-000188-Is for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 17:02:07 -0400 Received: from [83.108.52.84] (helo=localhost.localdomain) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1BoTbP-0002Zv-E0 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 16:58:44 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6OKwdw3012583 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 22:58:39 +0200 Received: (from andersvi@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6OKwcBC012581; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 22:58:38 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: andersvi set sender to andersvi@notam02.no using -f To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: How to change 'line-count along the way From: Anders Vinjar Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 00:12:39 +0200 User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) XEmacs/21.4 (Portable Code, linux) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 17:16:59 -0400 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 21:02:09 -0000 (I tried sending this some time ago, but it got stuck somewhere. Trying again.) --=-=-= Im a lilypond-newbie, used to be working with CMN, now i've searched around abit in docs and on the net without finding any solutions. Ive got 2 questions hopefully someone might be able to answer. Is there a way to specify "running" values for the property #'line-count of 'StaffSymbol? Ie. changing the number of staff-lines in the middle of a line, at a bar or some such? To achieve input along the following: --=-=-= When notating with non-standard number of staff-lines, how to avoid getting extra leger-lines on notes? Related to this, how to avoid the vertical scaling of the content (note-placements and stem-lengths etc.) The following score sets up a staff with 3 lines taking the vertical space of a 5-line staff. \version "2.2.0" \score{ \notes\relative c'{ d e g a e' f g a } \paper{ \context { \StaffContext \override StaffSymbol #'line-count = #3 \override StaffSymbol #'extra-offset = #'(0.0 . -1.0) \override StaffSymbol #'staff-space = #(/ 5 3) } } } I guess what's needed is a pointer to the actual drawing-function for StaffSymbol's (the Staffs 'engraver is it?), or examples of variants. Anders Vinjar --=-=-=-- From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jul 24 17:20:35 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BoTwZ-00047B-OC for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 17:20:35 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BoTwX-000473-OA for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 17:20:33 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BoTwW-00046q-9T for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 17:20:33 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BoTwW-00046n-7Q for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 17:20:32 -0400 Received: from [213.84.26.127] (helo=byrd) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BoTtO-0004YQ-0x for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 17:17:18 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain.byrd.xs4all.nl (byrd [127.0.0.1]) by byrd (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C2A814191; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 23:17:18 +0200 (CEST) From: Han-Wen Nienhuys Message-ID: <16642.53725.811553.887263@localhost.localdomain> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 23:17:17 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Jefferson dos Santos Felix Subject: Remove page number In-Reply-To: <4102979A.9090105@yahoo.com.br> References: <4102979A.9090105@yahoo.com.br> X-Mailer: VM 7.14 under Emacs 21.3.1 Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: hanwen@xs4all.nl List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 21:20:33 -0000 jeffersonsfelix@yahoo.com.br writes: > I'm a newbye in lilypond and I have same problems with page layout.... > > 1 - How do I remove the page numbers int lilypond 2.3.x?? fixed in cvs, \bookpaper { printpagenumber = ##f } > 2 - How do I change margins? Pedro is working on that, I believe. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys | hanwen@xs4all.nl | http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jul 24 17:25:10 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BoU10-0004aO-R7 for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 17:25:10 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BoU0y-0004ZK-GP for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 17:25:08 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BoU0w-0004Yt-TJ for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 17:25:07 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BoU0w-0004Yq-LH for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 17:25:06 -0400 Received: from [213.84.26.127] (helo=byrd) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BoTxe-0004yb-K6 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 17:21:42 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain.byrd.xs4all.nl (byrd [127.0.0.1]) by byrd (Postfix) with ESMTP id 618F21418E; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 23:21:42 +0200 (CEST) From: Han-Wen Nienhuys MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16642.53989.557895.832439@localhost.localdomain> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 23:21:41 +0200 To: Anders Vinjar Subject: How to change 'line-count along the way In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 7.14 under Emacs 21.3.1 Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: hanwen@xs4all.nl List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 21:25:08 -0000 andersvi@notam02.no writes: > Is there a way to specify "running" values for the property > #'line-count of 'StaffSymbol? Ie. changing the number of > staff-lines in the middle of a line, at a bar or some such? To > achieve input along the following: I'm not sure I understand the question. Do you want to switch off staff lines individually? That's not possible at the moment, but you could add code for that. See staff-symbol.cc -- Han-Wen Nienhuys | hanwen@xs4all.nl | http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jul 24 17:30:28 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BoU67-00070i-W9 for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 17:30:28 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BoU66-00070d-OJ for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 17:30:26 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BoU63-0006zQ-1c for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 17:30:26 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BoU62-0006z4-SH for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 17:30:22 -0400 Received: from [69.41.246.2] (helo=server.dnswired.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1BoU2q-0005bi-4N for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 17:27:04 -0400 Received: from 201009060077.user.veloxzone.com.br ([201.9.60.77] helo=pythagoras) by server.dnswired.com with esmtp (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.34) id 1BoU2g-0003DM-CM for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 18:26:54 -0300 Received: from kroger by pythagoras with local (Exim 4.30) id 1BoU4a-0001LY-7n for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 18:28:52 -0300 Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 18:28:52 -0300 From: Pedro Kroger To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Remove page number Message-ID: <20040724212852.GA5159@pythagoras> Mail-Followup-To: lilypond-user@gnu.org References: <4102979A.9090105@yahoo.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4102979A.9090105@yahoo.com.br> X-Editor: Emacs www.emacs.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040523i Sender: Pedro Kroger X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server.dnswired.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - pedrokroeger.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 21:30:26 -0000 * Jefferson dos Santos Felix (jeffersonsfelix@yahoo.com.br) wrote: > 2 - How do I change margins? You can use things like: topmargin Margin between header and top of the page bottommargin Margin between footer and bottom of the page headsep Distance between top-most music system and the page header footsep Distance between bottom-most music system and the page footer raggedbottom If set to true, systems will not be spread across the page. raggedlastbottom If set to true, systems will not be spread to fill the last page. ex: \bookpaper{ hsize = 2\cm topmargin = 3\cm bottommargin = 3\cm raggedlastbottom = ##t } I'm trying to implement left-margin, the only thing really missing. 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So here's the problem: For ordinary slurs slurDotted and slurSolid are predefined, but since the slur creates a melisma, lyricsto will refuse to put two syllables there. With a phrasing slur there's no melisma, so for the case that has only one syllable I can just add an underscore (blank syllable) in the lyrics to fill the space, but phrasing slurs have no prefabs for dotted and solid. So, how do I change the line style for phrasing slurs? 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Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 15:17:28 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <1035.1090759377@www56.gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <1035.1090759377@www56.gmx.net> X-Answer: 42 X-All-Your-Base: Are Belong To Us X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200407251517.29964.ersa9195@student.uu.se> Cc: deubelba@gmx.net X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: erik.sandberg.9195@student.uu.se List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 13:21:09 -0000 On Sunday 25 July 2004 14.42, deubelba@gmx.net wrote: > (cygwin, v. 2.2.2) > > I'm working on a piece with several stanzas of lyrics > under a repeated section of music. At one point the stanzas > are rhythmically slightly different but with the same pitches. > [... b8\( a8 ~ a4\) ..., with one and two syllables in > the different lyrics stanzas]. I want to put a dotted slur > over the two notes to indicate that the notes may or may not > be slurred depending on the repeat we're in, but I'd also > like to use \lyricsto. You probably want to fiddle with melismaBusyProperties, see http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.3/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/The-Lyrics-context.html#The-Lyrics-context > So here's the problem: For ordinary slurs slurDotted and > slurSolid are predefined, but since the slur creates a > melisma, lyricsto will refuse to put two syllables there. > With a phrasing slur there's no melisma, so for the case > that has only one syllable I can just add an underscore > (blank syllable) in the lyrics to fill the space, but > phrasing slurs have no prefabs for dotted and solid. > > So, how do I change the line style for phrasing slurs? > The program reference tells me there's a "dashed" > property in slur-interface I can set, but I'm deeply > confused about the where and how. If you still want to use phrasing slurs, you could check out the definition of slurDotted for ideas. The definition is in a ly file somewhere, in like /usr/share/lilypond/2.3.x/ly/ or similar (i don't know how cygwin works) Erik From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jul 25 09:48:40 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BojMm-0004rR-NS for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jul 2004 09:48:40 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BojMl-0004rK-AF for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jul 2004 09:48:39 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BojMj-0004r8-Mz for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jul 2004 09:48:39 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BojMj-0004r5-Jc for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jul 2004 09:48:37 -0400 Received: from [216.138.223.232] (helo=arrow.wiznet.ca) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BojJI-0006j3-EL for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jul 2004 09:45:04 -0400 Received: from nomad.lets.net (H74.C220.tor.velocet.net [216.138.220.74]) by arrow.wiznet.ca (Postfix) with SMTP id 05767703D for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2004 09:45:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 7256 invoked by uid 1008); 25 Jul 2004 14:30:01 -0000 Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 10:30:01 -0400 From: Steve Shorter To: Han-Wen Nienhuys Subject: Re: Stem beamed-lengths ? Message-ID: <20040725143001.GA7251@nomad.lets.net> References: <20040724162934.GA5086@nomad.lets.net> <16642.51689.308224.239153@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <16642.51689.308224.239153@localhost.localdomain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 13:48:39 -0000 On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 10:43:21PM +0200, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > > steve@nomad.tor.lets.net writes: > > Howdy! > > > > I have some collisions between a beame inner voice and an outer voice > > and I need to shorten the stems of notes in the beam. I tried stuff like > > > > \override Stem #'beamed-lengths = #'(1.0 1.0 1.0) > > > > but it doesn't see to do anything. > > > interesting! Can you post a short example of your problem, with the > tweak you tried? There is a collision in the secound bar between the secound and third voices. 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In-Reply-To: <1035.1090759377@www56.gmx.net> References: <1035.1090759377@www56.gmx.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.14 under Emacs 21.3.1 Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: hanwen@xs4all.nl List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 14:09:39 -0000 deubelba@gmx.net writes: > (cygwin, v. 2.2.2) > > I'm working on a piece with several stanzas of lyrics > under a repeated section of music. At one point the stanzas > are rhythmically slightly different but with the same pitches. > [... b8\( a8 ~ a4\) ..., with one and two syllables in > the different lyrics stanzas]. I want to put a dotted slur > over the two notes to indicate that the notes may or may not > be slurred depending on the repeat we're in, but I'd also > like to use \lyricsto. Check out the morgenlied example in input/mutopia/F.Schubert/ . It has an example of what you want. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys | hanwen@xs4all.nl | http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jul 25 15:05:53 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BooJl-000316-7h for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jul 2004 15:05:53 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Boo1B-0007qB-9L for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jul 2004 14:46:41 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Boo19-0007p3-RJ for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jul 2004 14:46:41 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Boo19-0007p0-MK for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jul 2004 14:46:39 -0400 Received: from [83.108.52.84] (helo=localhost.localdomain) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1Bony4-0006Ot-2d for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jul 2004 14:43:28 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6PIhPw3024117; Sun, 25 Jul 2004 20:43:25 +0200 Received: (from andersvi@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6PIhPI6024115; Sun, 25 Jul 2004 20:43:25 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: andersvi set sender to andersvi@notam02.no using -f To: hanwen@xs4all.nl Subject: Re: How to change 'line-count along the way References: From: Anders Vinjar Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 20:43:24 +0200 In-Reply-To: Han-Wen Nienhuys's message of "(unknown date)" Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) XEmacs/21.4 (Portable Code, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 15:05:51 -0400 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 18:46:41 -0000 --=-=-= >>>>> "HWN" == Han-Wen Nienhuys writes: HWN> andersvi@notam02.no writes: >> Is there a way to specify "running" values for the >> property #'line-count of 'StaffSymbol? Ie. changing the >> number of staff-lines in the middle of a line, at a bar or >> some such? To achieve input along the following: HWN> I'm not sure I understand the question. Do you want to HWN> switch off staff lines individually? That's not possible HWN> at the moment, but you could add code for that. See HWN> staff-symbol.cc It seems the .png i included as example did not make it through to the list. Here it is again (trying 'inline-disposition this time): --=-=-=-- From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jul 26 02:02:19 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BoyZ0-0008Qz-UZ for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 02:02:19 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BoyYz-0008Qm-7o for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 02:02:17 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BoyYx-0008QU-Es for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 02:02:16 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BoyYx-0008QK-DE for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 02:02:15 -0400 Received: from [24.71.223.10] (helo=pd4mo2so.prod.shaw.ca) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BoyVk-0007ZN-LK for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 01:58:56 -0400 Received: from pd5mr5so.prod.shaw.ca (pd5mr5so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.181]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0I1G002DZ2MTS7@l-daemon> for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jul 2004 23:44:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml1so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.145]) by pd5mr5so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0I1G00JSX2MTQ390@pd5mr5so.prod.shaw.ca> for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jul 2004 23:44:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.57] (S0106006067227a4a.vc.shawcable.net [24.87.233.42]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0I1G00I1A2MTG7@l-daemon> for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jul 2004 23:44:53 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 22:44:49 -0700 From: Graham Percival Subject: Re: problem with scordatura In-reply-to: <6.1.2.0.2.20040722173738.03223bd0@mail> To: Thorkil Wolvendans Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <6.1.2.0.2.20040722173738.03223bd0@mail> Cc: Lilypond Mailinglist X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 06:02:17 -0000 On 22-Jul-04, at 8:47 AM, Thorkil Wolvendans wrote: > I checked the docs as well as the archives, but couldn't find an > answer to the following question: > is it possible to make a scordatura? I did find how to make a > keysignature-scordatura, and tried to manipulate the code in order to > make it work with notes instead of keysignatures, but with no result > (I didn't expect a result, really...) So far I've faked it by writing "viola tunes C to B" and the like, but you _can_ do it better than that. In the recent devel version, you can now include scores in markup. See input/test/markup-score.ly If you produce a score that shows the new tuning, you could attach that to the first note of the piece (with a big #'extra-offset to move it up and to the left). Cheers, - Graham From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jul 26 08:28:26 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bp4ad-0002uG-99 for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 08:28:23 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bp4ab-0002uA-MY for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 08:28:21 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bp4aa-0002ty-CU for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 08:28:21 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bp4aZ-0002tv-2c for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 08:28:20 -0400 Received: from [213.51.128.198] (helo=smtpq3.home.nl) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bp4XK-0005rl-1X for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 08:24:58 -0400 Received: from [213.51.128.132] (port=48784 helo=smtp1.home.nl) by smtpq3.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Bp4XI-0005lM-Pz for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 14:24:56 +0200 Received: from cc264379-a.groni1.gr.home.nl ([217.121.214.156]:2167 helo=cc264379-a.home.nl) by smtp1.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Bp4XD-0004CG-DT for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 14:24:51 +0200 Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20040726133338.0323ce70@mail> X-Sender: wolvendans@mail X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 14:24:31 +0200 To: Lilypond Mailinglist From: Thorkil Wolvendans Subject: Re: problem with scordatura In-Reply-To: References: <6.1.2.0.2.20040722173738.03223bd0@mail> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Neem contact op met support@home.nl voor meer informatie X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 12:28:21 -0000 Hi Graham! At 07:44 26-7-04, you wrote: >So far I've faked it by writing "viola tunes C to B" and the like, but you >_can_ do it better than that. In the recent devel version, you can now >include scores in markup. See input/test/markup-score.ly Yes, I noticed that -- it looks neat! But since I need the scordatura for a string quartet where three of the four instruments have their strings 'untuned', I suspect it may look a little strange to have this list with three instruments above the 'grand'score, although it (having the scordatura-tuning at the top of the file) may look very good on the individual parts (IMHO: I think it may look even better than the original scordatura which starts at the far left from the first staff of the score). When the option comes available to me (I use windows, so I have to wait until a new stable version sees the light), I will give the function definitly a try! Currently, I think I'll stick to the original scordatura rules defined in input/test/incipit.ly (http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.2/input/test/out-www/lily-1425473805.ly). I don't understand how I could overlook this file, having searched the docs with my bare eyes thrice and googled the website on the word scordatura twice. Oh well, after I posted the question, I found the answer (which always gives me some satisfaction), but thanks for your help! Regards, Thorkil From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jul 26 08:54:56 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bp50K-00015V-Cq for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 08:54:56 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bp50H-00015O-5B for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 08:54:55 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bp50F-00015C-GC for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 08:54:52 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bp50F-000159-DH for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 08:54:51 -0400 Received: from [129.240.130.16] (helo=pat.uio.no) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bp4x5-0001b5-VS for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 08:51:36 -0400 Received: from mail-mx2.uio.no ([129.240.10.30]) by pat.uio.no with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bp4x3-0006L8-Hd; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 14:51:33 +0200 Received: from notam02.uio.no ([129.240.197.34] helo=bruno.localdomain) by smtp.uio.no with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1Bp4x1-0005J1-KZ; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 14:51:31 +0200 Received: from bruno.localdomain (bruno.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by bruno.localdomain (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i6QCpUlt008792; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 14:51:31 +0200 Received: (from andersvi@localhost) by bruno.localdomain (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i6QCpUSe008790; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 14:51:30 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: bruno.localdomain: andersvi set sender to anders.vinjar@notam.uio.no using -f To: hanwen@xs4all.nl Subject: Re: How to change 'line-count along the way References: From: Anders Vinjar Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 14:51:30 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Anders Vinjar's message of "Sun, 25 Jul 2004 20:43:24 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MailScanner-Information: This message has been scanned for viruses/spam. Contact postmaster@uio.no if you have questions about this scanning X-UiO-MailScanner: No virus found X-UiO-Spam-info: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=0, required 12) Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 12:54:55 -0000 >>> "AV" == Anders Vinjar writes: >>>>>> "HWN" == Han-Wen Nienhuys writes: HWN> I'm not sure I understand the question. Do you want to HWN> switch off staff lines individually? That's not possible HWN> at the moment, but you could add code for that. See HWN> staff-symbol.cc AV> It seems the .png i included as example did not make it AV> through to the list. Here it is again (trying AV> 'inline-disposition this time): Didnt get through either. Trying plain ascii music notation :) Id like to do something along the following: _____________________________________________________ ________________________ ___________ _____________________ ________________________ ___________ ______________________________________________________________ ___________ _____________________ ________________________ _____________________________________________________ ________________________ ie. start with 5 staff-lines, change to 2 staff-lines (at a bar or some point), change back to 5 lines, change to 1 line (specifying which lines to keep), back to 5 lines - - and similar adjustments -anders From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jul 26 11:38:11 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bp7YJ-0004Kq-QT for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:38:11 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bp7YI-0004Kl-02 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:38:10 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bp7YG-0004KZ-4C for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:38:09 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bp7YF-0004KW-U8 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:38:07 -0400 Received: from [205.158.62.67] (helo=webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bp7Ud-0003VB-DC for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:34:23 -0400 Received: from wfilter.us4.outblaze.com (wfilter.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.180]) by webmail-outgoing.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix) with QMQP id 6A8BA1801AA9 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 15:34:22 +0000 (GMT) X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.50) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 26 Jul 2004 15:32:13 -0000 Received: by ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 47C9B16402D; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 15:34:22 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Received: from [4.239.252.40] by ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com with http for rvsignup@mail.com; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 10:34:21 -0500 From: "Rob V" To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 10:34:21 -0500 Subject: Alignment of stanza numbers using vocalName X-Originating-Ip: 4.239.252.40 X-Originating-Server: ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20040726153422.47C9B16402D@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 15:38:10 -0000 I figured out what the problem was. I should use 'time-signature instead of the old way of using 'Time_signature. Now it works correctly and I can update the rest of my files. -- ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jul 26 14:49:32 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BpAXU-0003y3-B6 for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 14:49:32 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BpAXS-0003vE-Jn for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 14:49:30 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BpAXP-0003tw-Gr for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 14:49:30 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BpAXP-0003tm-Dm for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 14:49:27 -0400 Received: from [212.227.126.171] (helo=moutng.kundenserver.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BpAU7-0004Dl-4g for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 14:46:03 -0400 Received: from [212.227.126.200] (helo=mrvnet.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1BpAU5-0002LF-00 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 20:46:01 +0200 Received: from [172.23.4.147] (helo=config20.kundenserver.de) by mrvnet.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1BpAU5-0005KB-00 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 20:46:01 +0200 Received: from www-data by config20.kundenserver.de with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BpAU5-0007TV-00 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 20:46:01 +0200 To: Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Lilypond_on_Sparc?= From: Message-Id: <5193415$109086703641054f5c1c7b27.53393459@config20.schlund.de> X-Binford: 6100 (more power) X-Originating-From: 5193415 X-Mailer: Webmail X-Routing: DE X-Received: from config20 by 217.83.103.224 with HTTP id 5193415 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 20:44:01 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 20:44:01 +0200 X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de ident:@172.23.4.147 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 18:49:30 -0000 Hi! I just found that a Sun Sparc is, as second hand not expensive at all (well, that is a matter of "taste") but I have no idea, what models are confortable enough specially to get a fast execution of lily (I am actually running Athlon 2 Ghz with Suse 9.0) Who can help with own experience? Does Solaris accept rpms? Thanks in advance! Francois From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jul 26 15:08:03 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BpApP-0000Ej-LA for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 15:08:03 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BpApN-0000E7-NE for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 15:08:01 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BpApM-0000Di-Mt for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 15:08:01 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BpApM-0000DY-Ii for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 15:08:00 -0400 Received: from [130.227.52.108] (helo=fitch5.uni2.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1BpAmD-0007Mv-Tx for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 15:04:46 -0400 Received: from venus.none (129.142.192.25.ip.tele2adsl.dk [129.142.192.25]) by fitch5.uni2.net (8.12.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id i6QJ4fxZ030170 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 21:04:41 +0200 Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 21:04:41 +0200 From: dax2 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Lilypond on Sparc Message-Id: <20040726210441.18693263.dax2@tele2adsl.dk> In-Reply-To: <5193415$109086703641054f5c1c7b27.53393459@config20.schlund.de> References: <5193415$109086703641054f5c1c7b27.53393459@config20.schlund.de> Organization: d-axel consulting X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.10 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 19:08:02 -0000 On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 20:44:01 +0200 francois.planiol@adventisten.de wrote: > I just found that a Sun Sparc is, as second hand not expensive at all > Who can help with own experience? > Does Solaris accept rpms? You must have some nerve and stamina to get through with SPARC and RPM. Solaris uses pkg-system, which is much the same as RPM, however, you can install and use the RPM system on a SPARC too. http://rpmfind.net//linux/RPM/cooker/cooker/sparc/Mandrake/RPMS/rpm-4.2.2-10mdk.sparc.html -- dax2-tele2adsl:dk -- d-axel.dk/ Donald Axel From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jul 26 17:29:32 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BpD2K-00010o-Kp for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 17:29:32 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BpD2I-0000zb-5g for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 17:29:30 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BpD2G-0000zI-JO for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 17:29:29 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BpD2G-0000zF-Gd for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 17:29:28 -0400 Received: from [66.163.169.223] (helo=smtp104.mail.sc5.yahoo.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BpCz8-0003eh-PF for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 17:26:14 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO yahoo.com.br) (jeffersonsfelix@200.168.20.70 with plain) by smtp104.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Jul 2004 21:26:12 -0000 Message-ID: <41057735.5000506@yahoo.com.br> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 18:27:17 -0300 From: Jefferson dos Santos Felix User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; pt-BR; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: pt-br, pt MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Problems with remove page numbering Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 21:29:30 -0000 Now I have compiled the last version of Lilypond (2.3.8), but the problem continue... I created the follow example: \bookpaper { printpagenumber = ##f } \notes { \repeat unfold 50 { c'1 \break } } but lilypond insists to print page numbers... Is there anything wrong? Thanks Jeff From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jul 26 17:43:51 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BpDGB-0004mh-9c for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 17:43:51 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BpDGA-0004mP-7b for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 17:43:50 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BpDG8-0004le-NQ for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 17:43:49 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BpDG8-0004lb-JK for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 17:43:48 -0400 Received: from [66.111.43.200] (helo=balance.wiw.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BpDCi-0005fy-C4 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 17:40:16 -0400 Received: (qmail 12507 invoked by uid 530); 26 Jul 2004 21:39:49 -0000 Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 17:39:49 -0400 From: Julian Squires To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Lilypond on Sparc Message-ID: <20040726213949.GA5559@balance> Mail-Followup-To: lilypond-user@gnu.org References: <5193415$109086703641054f5c1c7b27.53393459@config20.schlund.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5193415$109086703641054f5c1c7b27.53393459@config20.schlund.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 21:43:50 -0000 On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 08:44:01PM +0200, francois.planiol@adventisten.de wrote: > I just found that a Sun Sparc is, as second hand not expensive at all > (well, that is a matter of "taste") but I have no idea, what models are > confortable enough specially to get a fast execution of lily (I am > actually running Athlon 2 Ghz with Suse 9.0) > > Who can help with own experience? > Does Solaris accept rpms? You can run debian on sparc machines pretty nicely, and just apt-get install lilypond. I have a bunch of sparc-based machines, but I do all my lilypond work on a powerpc machine, so I can't say too much about speed, except that you probably want an ultra 2 as an absolute bare minimum; you probably want a modern machine like a blade 150 or better for real work. Sun machines are great for multiuser work (amazing for many interactive sessions for example), but their speed may not impress you for single user work. Linux tends to be a bit faster than Solaris on older sparc machines, can't vouch for the newer ones. Cheers. -- Julian Squires From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jul 26 18:22:50 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BpDrr-0001Wp-Gy for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 18:22:49 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BpDro-0001WB-9n for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 18:22:44 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BpDrm-0001VU-Mj for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 18:22:43 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BpDrm-0001VR-J4 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 18:22:42 -0400 Received: from [194.109.24.25] (helo=smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BpDoc-0002fN-6c for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 18:19:26 -0400 Received: from byrd.xs4all.nl.byrd.xs4all.nl (byrd.xs4all.nl [213.84.26.127]) by smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6QMJPMg098964; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 00:19:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from hanwen@xs4all.nl) From: Han-Wen Nienhuys MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16645.33655.638568.266284@byrd.xs4all.nl> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 00:19:35 +0200 To: Jefferson dos Santos Felix Subject: Problems with remove page numbering In-Reply-To: <41057735.5000506@yahoo.com.br> References: <41057735.5000506@yahoo.com.br> X-Mailer: VM 7.14 under Emacs 21.3.1 X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: hanwen@xs4all.nl List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 22:22:44 -0000 jeffersonsfelix@yahoo.com.br writes: > > Now I have compiled the last version of Lilypond (2.3.8), but the > problem continue... you need 2.3.9 (when it is released) or CVS. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys | hanwen@xs4all.nl | http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jul 26 20:35:11 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BpFvz-0005IP-AP for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 20:35:11 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BpFvx-0005IK-Ny for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 20:35:09 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BpFvw-0005I8-78 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 20:35:09 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BpFvw-0005I5-23 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 20:35:08 -0400 Received: from [217.69.77.222] (helo=kerckhoffs.g10code.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BpFse-0003Rk-4w for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 20:31:44 -0400 Received: from ulysses.g10code.com ([212.23.136.22] helo=ulysses.g10code.de) by kerckhoffs.g10code.com with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BpFrA-0002CC-00 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 02:30:12 +0200 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=ulysses.g10code.de) by ulysses.g10code.de with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BpFqg-0008Mw-2e for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 02:29:42 +0200 Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 02:29:41 +0200 Message-ID: <877jsqwave.wl@ulysses.g10code.de> From: Marcus Brinkmann To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: note tweaks for variations in small size User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.10.1 (Watching The Wheels) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.6 (Marutamachi) APEL/10.6 Emacs/21.3 (i386-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 00:35:10 -0000 Hi, I want to typeset a couple of transcribed songs[1], and many of them contain variations of short sequences of notes or even single notes. In the original manuscript, those are set in a smaller type. Sometimes the variation is put as another, smaller note-head on the same stem as the main note, and sometimes it has its own stem (dependent on how far the pitch is apart and if the value is the same). I have tried to do the same in lilypond, and it turns out to be extra-ordinarly hard. The mailing list archive showed a similar question in march last year, with an incomplete answer pointing to the now inexistant Thread context. Here is what I came up with so far: * I can't use < > chords as they don't allow setting the font size of one note head (I get a syntax error). * I can't use << c'8 \once \set fontSize = #'-4 e'8 >> because the font size will apply to both note-heads. * I can't use << c'8 \\ \once \set fontSize = #'-4 e'8 >> as this will put the first note into the Voice "1" and thus remove it from the current voice, thus breaking \lyricsto, which skips the voice. * This can be mitigated by naming the voice "1" in the first place (and using \stemBoth) or creating several voice contexts explicitely. Or by doing something like: << c'8 << \\ \once \set fontSize = #-4 e'8 >> >> In either case, this breaks merging of the note heads, so you can't get them on the same stem. I ended up doing this and resolve the collision manually by giving explicit stem directions, but having only one stem for close notes seems to look better to me. That's for the simple case of two notes with the same value, and close pitch. For pitches that are further apart, using two stems is fine and works. However, there are still glitches: * When doing something like << { d''4. c''8 } << \\ { \set fontSize = #'-4 \stemUp s4 f''8 d'' } >> >> the variation comes before the main note, which looks a bit ugly. The original script has the variation "embrace" the main note (imagine the bar'ed two eights appear over the single eight), which looks better. I don't know about a way to change the order of the notes so that can be achieved. * When doing something like << a'8 << \\ { \set fontSize = #'-4 g'8 } >> >> then the problem is that the notes are too close. The smaller note should be set a bit apart from the main note. However, extra-offset on the note-head only moved the note head, not the stem. extra-offset or horizontal-shift on the NoteColumn didn't do anything visible. * Sometimes in the original manuscript longer variations appear in a temporary extra staff above the normal staff, which doesn't even extend over the whole line length. I couldn't repeat this, in lilypond all staves seem to extend at least over the whole line length (with the rests being written out). Having this feature is not so important to me, as putting longer variations below the piece is appropriate enough. Some of these problems may very well be due to my lack of understanding of lilypond's internal workings. I admit to be confused by the contexts, objects, and properties, and did not study them all in depth yet. I think the quickest way to work with lilypond from a user's point of view is to just cut&paste from other people's examples, which worked very well for me so far. So, if anybody has examples where he mixes note-heads of different sizes, or shifts notes around, I would be more than happy to see them. Any other hints are also appreciated. Thanks, Marcus [1] A couple is probably an understatement. I plan to make a free version of the book "Slave Songs in the United States" from 1867 by William Francis Allen, which contains 136 hymns and other pieces. Stay tuned. From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jul 27 05:38:43 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BpOPz-0007f0-9q for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 05:38:43 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BpOPx-0007dH-CS for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 05:38:41 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BpOPw-0007cK-Fi for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 05:38:40 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BpOPw-0007bv-5Y for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 05:38:40 -0400 Received: from [64.233.170.200] (helo=mproxy.gmail.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BpOMJ-0004h7-AS for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 05:34:55 -0400 Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 75so90899rnk for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 02:34:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.92.20 with SMTP id p20mr22685rnb; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 02:34:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <29046db10407270234178fd95e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 10:34:54 +0100 From: Russ Ross To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Lilypond on Sparc In-Reply-To: <20040726213949.GA5559@balance> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <5193415$109086703641054f5c1c7b27.53393459@config20.schlund.de> <20040726213949.GA5559@balance> X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 09:38:41 -0000 On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 17:39:49 -0400, Julian Squires wrote: > On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 08:44:01PM +0200, francois.planiol@adventisten.de wrote: > > I just found that a Sun Sparc is, as second hand not expensive at all > > (well, that is a matter of "taste") but I have no idea, what models are > > confortable enough specially to get a fast execution of lily (I am > > actually running Athlon 2 Ghz with Suse 9.0) > > > > Who can help with own experience? > > Does Solaris accept rpms? > > You can run debian on sparc machines pretty nicely, and just apt-get > install lilypond. I have a bunch of sparc-based machines, but I do all > my lilypond work on a powerpc machine, so I can't say too much about > speed, except that you probably want an ultra 2 as an absolute bare > minimum; you probably want a modern machine like a blade 150 or better > for real work. Sun machines are great for multiuser work (amazing for > many interactive sessions for example), but their speed may not impress > you for single user work. Linux tends to be a bit faster than Solaris > on older sparc machines, can't vouch for the newer ones. I've been away from Sparc machines for a year or two now, but I'd like to echo Julian's comments. The strength of the Sparc machines is in their scalability, not in their speed. In other words, they are much better than a Pentium-based machine if you want 32 processors and many gigabytes of memory, but for a basic single-processor machine you'll probably find that a normal PC is much faster. At my last job, we had some really long running jobs that took a couple days to complete. We used our flashy Sparc machine, which was very expensive when we bought it two years earlier. It was a single processor machine but we were all mesmerized by the Sun and Solaris names. The jobs were taking too long to run, however, so in the end we bought a consumer PC from Costco at less than 1/5 what the Sparc machine had cost us, and it ran the job 17 times faster. Normal PCs are cheap and fast, and a couple-years-old Sparc machine probably can't compete with a cheap, modern PC. If you don't already know how a Sparc machine will help you, then chances are it won't. - Russ From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jul 27 06:21:07 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BpP51-0007Oa-ME for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 06:21:07 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BpP4z-0007OK-5F for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 06:21:05 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BpP4y-0007O1-Dc for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 06:21:04 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BpP4y-0007Ny-Bi for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 06:21:04 -0400 Received: from [213.228.0.44] (helo=postfix3-1.free.fr) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BpP1H-0001ml-Vc for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 06:17:16 -0400 Received: from imp3-q.free.fr (imp3-q.free.fr [212.27.42.3]) by postfix3-1.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 938DE17376D for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:17:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: by imp3-q.free.fr (Postfix, from userid 33) id B55EB25224; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:17:12 +0200 (MEST) Received: from ARouen-106-1-9-85.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr (ARouen-106-1-9-85.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [80.14.114.85]) by imp3-q.free.fr (IMP) with HTTP for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:17:12 +0200 Message-ID: <1090923432.41062ba88d8d3@imp3-q.free.fr> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:17:12 +0200 From: olivier.cloirec@free.fr To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: 2 questions - ties and midi, ties notes in a separate coda References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.4 X-Originating-IP: 80.14.114.85 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 10:21:05 -0000 Selon Shelagh : > I have two questions. > 1) I made a beautiful printout of a song and the midi output was > successful, but the tied notes did not 'tie' in the midi song. Is this > normal? or am I missing something. The ties over the bar lines seemed t= o > work but the tied notes in the middle of the measure separated. I'm usi= ng > Lilypond 2.2.0. This is a bug in the early 2.2 releases. It's fixed in 2.2.2 See Changelog: 2004-05-31 Han-Wen Nienhuys * VERSION: 2.2.2 * lily/tie-performer.cc (stop_translation_timestep): reset ties_created_. Fixes bugs/midi-tie.ly, bugs/midi-lyrics-barcheck.ly > 2) In another song the coda was separated from the main score. The > structure of the song is like this > > music repeat x2 music skip to coda > > The problem is that the note that is on the barline which skips is tied= so > the coda begins with the end of a tied note. I played around with \skip= s > but nothing looked promising. Does anyone have any suggestions? No idea for the moment, sorry! Bye, Olivier > > Shelagh > > > _______________________________________________ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jul 27 10:00:21 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BpSVA-0000KO-Oh for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 10:00:20 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BpSV9-0000KH-8I for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 10:00:19 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BpSV7-0000K5-H6 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 10:00:18 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BpSV7-0000K2-DK for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 10:00:17 -0400 Received: from [194.25.134.81] (helo=mailout03.sul.t-online.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BpSRo-0001mT-P1 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 09:56:52 -0400 Received: from fwd11.aul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1BpSRn-0002I9-00; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:56:51 +0200 Received: from xpert (ZG5HJTZBQeOUhmAbVpp4SuOLn12FU6rDtksZIhJuk8UMjO2iRQjSo7@[217.255.61.145]) by fwd11.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 1BpSRS-0whwO00; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:56:30 +0200 From: t.scharkowski@t-online.de (Thomas Scharkowski) To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:56:40 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: root / user question Message-ID: <41067B38.25242.1A1072@localhost> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c, DE v4.21c R1) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-ID: ZG5HJTZBQeOUhmAbVpp4SuOLn12FU6rDtksZIhJuk8UMjO2iRQjSo7 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:00:19 -0000 Hello list, I think this is more of a linux (SuSE 9.1 ) than a lilypond question, but I dare to ask: When I run lilypond 2.2.4 as user I get some console messages in german and some english. I do not like this, and jEdit with lilytool does not like it either. When I run lilypond as root everything is in english. Can anybody explain what happens? Thank you, Thomas From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jul 27 10:53:25 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BpTKV-0002Yq-04 for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 10:53:25 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BpTKS-0002Yk-2z for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 10:53:20 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BpTKP-0002YW-SX for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 10:53:19 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BpTKP-0002YT-P3 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 10:53:17 -0400 Received: from [194.120.234.254] (helo=oker.escape.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1BpTGz-0001qe-W2 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 10:49:46 -0400 Received: from oker.escape.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (envelope-sender: kili@outback.escape.de) by oker.escape.de (8.12.11/8.12.11/$Revision: 1.46 $) with ESMTP id i6REnhB5027044 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 16:49:43 +0200 Received: from outback.escape.de (uucp@localhost) by oker.escape.de (8.12.11/8.12.11/Debian-5) with UUCP-outback id i6REnhlk027043 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 16:49:43 +0200 Received: from outback.escape.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by outback.escape.de (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6REmUoj019664 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 16:48:30 +0200 Received: (from kili@localhost) by outback.escape.de (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6REmUZP019663 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 16:48:30 +0200 Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 16:48:30 +0200 From: Matthias Kilian To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: root / user question Message-ID: <20040727144830.GA17954@outback.escape.de> Mail-Followup-To: lilypond-user@gnu.org References: <41067B38.25242.1A1072@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41067B38.25242.1A1072@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:53:20 -0000 On Tue, Jul 27, 2004 at 03:56:40PM +0200, Thomas Scharkowski wrote: > When I run lilypond 2.2.4 as user I get some console messages in > german and some english. I do not like this, and jEdit with lilytool > does not like it either. > When I run lilypond as root everything is in english. > Can anybody explain what happens? You've one of the environment variables LANG, LC_ALL, or LC_MESSAGES set to de (or de_DE or something similar). Since LilyPond involves many different programs, some of them may be localized, others not. Unset all mentioned environment variables or just set LANG and LC_ALL to C to get only english messages. Ciao, Kili From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jul 27 14:06:00 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BpWKt-0000X2-RQ for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:05:59 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BpWKr-0000TL-BY for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:05:57 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BpWKp-0000Qh-0W for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:05:55 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BpWKo-0000PZ-N3 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:05:54 -0400 Received: from [62.235.13.169] (helo=spoolo3.tiscali.be) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BpWHO-00069N-20 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:02:22 -0400 Received: from [83.134.4.3] (helo=[192.168.1.1]) by spoolo3.tiscali.be with esmtp (Tiscali.be http://www.tiscali.be) id 1BpWHL-00082P-DI for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 20:02:19 +0200 Message-ID: <410698AA.6050306@wol.be> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 20:02:18 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rapha=EBl_Slinckx?= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (X11/20040701) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: #(set-accidental-style 'default) and note spacing Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 18:05:58 -0000 Hi ! I think there is a bug in the combinaision between set-accidental-style and spacingspanner, or I am completely lost ! I have the following in my .ly partition: \score { \notes \relative do' { #(set-accidental-style 'modern) ...NOTES .... } } \paper { \context {\ScoreContext \override SpacingSpanner #'spacing-increment = #2.2 \override SpacingSpanner #'shortest-duration-space = #2.5 } \context {\StaffContext \override DynamicLineSpanner #'padding = #1.5 \override DynamicLineSpanner #'staff-padding = #6.0 \override TextScript #'padding = #1.5 \override TextScript #'staff-padding = #6.0 \override PhrasingSlur #'height-limit = #5.0 } #(set-paper-size "a4") } This renders perfectly, my tweaks for the Spacingspanner behave exactly as described in the docs. Now if I remove the #(set-accidental-style 'modern) or comment it, or change from 'modern to 'default, I cannot change anything about spacing anymore, I can set spacing-increment to #10.0 it has no effects and everything looks like the dedault spacing has come back !! Is this a bug, or I am doing something wrong ? Raf From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jul 27 15:07:57 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BpXIr-0004Lx-ID for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:07:57 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BpXIp-0004Ls-VJ for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:07:56 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BpXIo-0004Lg-Cu for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:07:55 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BpXIo-0004Ld-AE for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:07:54 -0400 Received: from [194.109.24.30] (helo=smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BpXFU-00080m-Td for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:04:29 -0400 Received: from byrd.xs4all.nl.byrd.xs4all.nl (byrd.xs4all.nl [213.84.26.127]) by smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6RJ4Mnf017604; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 21:04:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from hanwen@xs4all.nl) From: Han-Wen Nienhuys MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16646.42806.676972.84810@byrd.xs4all.nl> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 21:04:22 +0200 To: Marcus Brinkmann Subject: note tweaks for variations in small size In-Reply-To: <877jsqwave.wl@ulysses.g10code.de> References: <877jsqwave.wl@ulysses.g10code.de> X-Mailer: VM 7.14 under Emacs 21.3.1 X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: hanwen@xs4all.nl List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 19:07:56 -0000 marcus.brinkmann@ruhr-uni-bochum.de writes: > Hi, > > I want to typeset a couple of transcribed songs[1], and many of them > contain variations of short sequences of notes or even single notes. > In the original manuscript, those are set in a smaller type. > Sometimes the variation is put as another, smaller note-head on the > same stem as the main note, and sometimes it has its own stem > (dependent on how far the pitch is apart and if the value is the > same). > > I have tried to do the same in lilypond, and it turns out to be > extra-ordinarly hard. There should probably be a mechanism to do this neatly (entering the alternate voice separately), but here is a quick hack for starters. #(define ((set-position-font-size pos size) grob origin current) (let* ( (ifs (ly:grob-property grob 'interfaces)) (sp (ly:grob-property grob 'staff-position)) ) (if (and (memq 'note-head-interface ifs) (= pos sp)) (set! (ly:grob-property grob 'font-size) size)))) \score { \relative c' { c \applyoutput #(set-position-font-size -2 4) }} -- Han-Wen Nienhuys | hanwen@xs4all.nl | http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jul 27 16:32:27 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BpYcd-0004SN-9k for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 16:32:27 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BpYcb-0004SH-9Q for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 16:32:25 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BpYcZ-0004S5-NA for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 16:32:25 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BpYcZ-0004S2-Ld for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 16:32:23 -0400 Received: from [213.51.128.197] (helo=smtpq2.home.nl) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BpYZ6-0003KD-33 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 16:28:48 -0400 Received: from [213.51.128.134] (port=45872 helo=smtp3.home.nl) by smtpq2.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BpYZ4-0005AI-MN for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 22:28:46 +0200 Received: from cc264379-a.groni1.gr.home.nl ([217.121.214.156]:1065 helo=cc264379-a.home.nl) by smtp3.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BpYZ2-0002vg-1O for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 22:28:44 +0200 Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20040727221553.03245150@mail> X-Sender: wolvendans@mail X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 22:28:44 +0200 To: Lilypond Mailinglist From: Thorkil Wolvendans Subject: clef after bar Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Neem contact op met support@home.nl voor meer informatie X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 20:32:25 -0000 Hi everyone! At a certain point in a composition, I try to make a new clef appear after the barline instead of before, without a positive result. Is it possible in Lily to achieve this? I searched the docs, but couldn't find an answer. Thanks! Thorkil lily222/cygwin From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jul 27 19:22:56 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BpbHc-0004LM-3A for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 19:22:56 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BpbHZ-0004JY-QZ for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 19:22:53 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BpbHT-0004IG-V5 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 19:22:53 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BpbHT-0004I6-Qk for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 19:22:47 -0400 Received: from [129.59.103.30] (helo=mailhost1.vuse.vanderbilt.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BpbDp-00019d-4x for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 19:19:01 -0400 Received: from jekyll.vuse.vanderbilt.edu (jekyll.vuse.vanderbilt.edu [129.59.88.108]) by mailhost1.vuse.vanderbilt.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11/VUSE-2.2.5) with SMTP id i6RNJ0fX011724 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 18:19:00 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <200407272319.i6RNJ0fX011724@mailhost1.vuse.vanderbilt.edu> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 18:18:46 -0500 (CDT) From: "Anthony W. Youngman" Subject: Band parts - a newbie's view To: lilypond-user@gnu.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: mHiI1/HYXWFLSPIoJYsZiw== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.5.3_06 SunOS 5.9 sun4u sparc X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Anthony W. Youngman" List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 23:22:54 -0000 ------------- Begin Forwarded Message ------------- Envelope-to: lilypond-devel@gnu.org Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 23:48:15 +0100 To: lilypond-devel@gnu.org From: "Anthony W. Youngman" Subject: Band parts - a newbie's view User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-U () Quick bio - I'm a professional programmer and amateur musician ... I'm trying to set some band parts, and I'm using 2.2.2 on cygwin. Okay, some things are probably me trying to do things the "wrong" way, but some things appear to be bugs... What I'm trying to do is make stuff generic - not repeat stuff across files - and some things are annoying while at least one thing appears to be a bug... I've put all the header info - title, composer etc into a "header.ly" file. I include this in a part file, followed by a "header { instrument = }" section. This second header section appears to wipe the first :-( at any rate, all I get is the instrument name and everything else is lost. Commenting out the second section means the first one appears ... And the instrument is in the wrong place ... it gets put in the middle of the header :-( As far as I'm concerned, on a part it belongs left justified just above the first stave, and presumably on a score it belongs just above or to the left of the relevant stave. Okay - having moaned - how do I fix this the way I want? Do I need to install source or can it be done in Scheme as part of the standard user install? And if I need the source, what language is it? C++? I want to make the header print the way I want :-), and I presume I need to add a Staff.Instrument property to get that to print properly in a score... Another annoying thing when trying to produce parts ... I've found that putting time signatures, speed markings etc in a separate "part" is great for getting timings right etc. Unfortunately, it seems that "s" and "\skip" are classed as notes, so when I try to collapse bars with the R syntax in the part, it doesn't work :-( (as an aside, how do I do multi-bar rests with a time signature of eg 9/8? Does R1*9/8*n work?) Two other annoyances (and in my mind they're UI blunders ...). Practically every piece of music I've played that has letter rehearsal marks DOES use the letter I. It's fine to have a default that doesn't, but the manual appears to say "our tradition doesn't use it, therefore we won't let you use it". Bad! Where do I change it? And do I have the option of passing a list of marks for it to use? The other is, if I ask for a time signature of 3/4, that's what I get. Or 9/8. Or 6/8. Or 5/4 or almost anything. But if I ask for 2/2 or 4/4, then that's what I DON'T get. Bad bad bad! If I want common or cut-common, then I should be able to ask for that directly. And in my experience 4/4 and common are not the same thing - I often play pieces that have both ... Have any of these points been addressed post 2.2.2? And if not, where and how do I go about "fixing" them? Cheers, Wol -- Anthony W. Youngman - wol at thewolery dot demon dot co dot uk HEX wondered how much he should tell the Wizards. He felt it would not be a good idea to burden them with too much input. Hex always thought of his reports as Lies-to-People. The Science of Discworld : (c) Terry Pratchett 1999 ------------- End Forwarded Message ------------- From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jul 27 19:51:27 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BpbjC-0001Xk-UU for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 19:51:27 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BpbjA-0001X8-PN for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 19:51:24 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bpbj8-0001W0-AO for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 19:51:22 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bpbj8-0001Vq-8F for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 19:51:22 -0400 Received: from [24.71.223.10] (helo=pd5mo3so.prod.shaw.ca) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bpbft-0004qV-5I for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 19:48:01 -0400 Received: from pd2mr7so.prod.shaw.ca (pd2mr7so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.10]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0I1J002PBASYCV@l-daemon> for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 17:34:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml3so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.147]) by pd2mr7so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0I1J00I7LASYCI60@pd2mr7so.prod.shaw.ca> for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 17:34:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.57] (S0106006067227a4a.vc.shawcable.net [24.87.233.42]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0I1J00I45ASX95@l-daemon> for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 17:34:10 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 16:34:05 -0700 From: Graham Percival Subject: Re: Band parts - a newbie's view In-reply-to: <200407272319.i6RNJ0fX011724@mailhost1.vuse.vanderbilt.edu> To: "Anthony W. Youngman" Message-id: <730284DB-E025-11D8-857F-000A95DABD74@shaw.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <200407272319.i6RNJ0fX011724@mailhost1.vuse.vanderbilt.edu> Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 23:51:25 -0000 On 27-Jul-04, at 4:18 PM, Anthony W. Youngman wrote: > I've put all the header info - title, composer etc into a "header.ly" > file. I include this in a part file, followed by a "header { instrument > = }" section. This second header section appears to wipe the first :-( > at any rate, all I get is the instrument name and everything else is > lost. Commenting out the second section means the first one appears ... AFAIK, that's a bug. I've encountered it. Some of the changes in the 2.3 devel series may have fixed this one, though. > And the instrument is in the wrong place ... it gets put in the middle > of the header :-( As far as I'm concerned, on a part it belongs left > justified just above the first stave, and presumably on a score it > belongs just above or to the left of the relevant stave. Quick hack: instead of using "instrument", how about using "piece" or a different lilypond header? :) Another option would be to use lilypond-book -- lilypond stuff inserted into a LaTeX document. I've found that while Lilypond is good for small pieces and rough copies, when I want to make a final, publishable copy, I need the extra power of lilypond-book. > Okay - having moaned - how do I fix this the way I want? Do I need to > install source or can it be done in Scheme as part of the standard user > install? And if I need the source, what language is it? C++? I want to > make the header print the way I want :-), and I presume I need to add a > Staff.Instrument property to get that to print properly in a score... I'll let a programmer answer this one, other than mentioning lilypond-book again. > Another annoying thing when trying to produce parts ... I've found that > putting time signatures, speed markings etc in a separate "part" is > great for getting timings right etc. Unfortunately, it seems that "s" > and "\skip" are classed as notes, so when I try to collapse bars with > the R syntax in the part, it doesn't work :-( (as an aside, how do I do > multi-bar rests with a time signature of eg 9/8? Does R1*9/8*n work?) I'm pretty sure that R1*9/8*n works. And if for some reason it doesn't, I know that R8*9*n works. > The other is, if I ask for a time signature of 3/4, that's what I get. > Or 9/8. Or 6/8. Or 5/4 or almost anything. But if I ask for 2/2 or 4/4, > then that's what I DON'T get. Bad bad bad! If I want common or > cut-common, then I should be able to ask for that directly. And in my > experience 4/4 and common are not the same thing - I often play pieces > that have both ... Lilypond defines 4/4 and C as the same[1], but if you want to see 4/4 instead of C, use: \override Staff.TimeSignature #'style = #'numbered [1] and therefore changing that would require a patch > Have any of these points been addressed post 2.2.2? And if not, where > and how do I go about "fixing" them? Right now most effort is focused on the devel branch, so if you want to fix issues, that's probably the best place to go. It also includes new code for slurs, which take into account articulations and fingerings; devel also has quite a few page output improvements. Cheers, - Graham From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jul 27 20:16:54 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bpc7q-0006Z3-ML for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 20:16:54 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bpc7p-0006Yx-JU for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 20:16:53 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bpc7o-0006Yk-0a for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 20:16:53 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bpc7n-0006Yh-Ru for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 20:16:51 -0400 Received: from [217.69.77.222] (helo=kerckhoffs.g10code.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bpc4b-0008DU-3G for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 20:13:33 -0400 Received: from ulysses.g10code.com ([212.23.136.22] helo=ulysses.g10code.de) by kerckhoffs.g10code.com with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Bpc2y-0000oS-00 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 02:11:52 +0200 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=ulysses.g10code.de) by ulysses.g10code.de with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Bpc2d-0003Nl-7w for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 02:11:31 +0200 Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 02:11:30 +0200 Message-ID: <871xixvvm5.wl@ulysses.g10code.de> From: Marcus Brinkmann To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: note tweaks for variations in small size In-Reply-To: <16646.42806.676972.84810@byrd.xs4all.nl> References: <877jsqwave.wl@ulysses.g10code.de> <16646.42806.676972.84810@byrd.xs4all.nl> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.10.1 (Watching The Wheels) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.6 (Marutamachi) APEL/10.6 Emacs/21.3 (i386-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 00:16:53 -0000 At Tue, 27 Jul 2004 21:04:22 +0200, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > > (dependent on how far the pitch is apart and if the value is the > > same). > > > > I have tried to do the same in lilypond, and it turns out to be > > extra-ordinarly hard. > > There should probably be a mechanism to do this neatly (entering the > alternate voice separately), but here is a quick hack for starters. > > #(define ((set-position-font-size pos size) grob origin current) [...] Works great, thanks! This is the hack I needed most. For any lurker who wonders: The first argument seems to be the note-head to alter, with 0 being the note head on the middle line of the staff, +1 being the note-head in the space above the middle line, etc. Marcus From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Jul 27 21:42:55 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BpdT5-0004RR-NF for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 21:42:55 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BpdT3-0004RL-Uk for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 21:42:54 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BpdT2-0004R9-Dy for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 21:42:53 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BpdT2-0004R6-Ax for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 21:42:52 -0400 Received: from [200.153.20.60] (helo=200.153.20.60) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BpdPj-0001dC-1x for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 21:39:32 -0400 Received: from 71.64.226.206 by web545.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 22:32:14 -0400 Message-ID: From: ""CreativityCourse"" To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Creativity Courses in Europe and New York Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 22:36:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CS-IP: 162.248.82.110 Content-Type: text/plain; Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 01:42:54 -0000 Creativity Courses in Europe and New York Creativity Courses in Europe and New York http://www.creativity-course.com The Creativity Workshop is dedicated to teaching people about their creativity and how to use it in all aspects of life, work, and creative expression. 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This seasoned teacher left the workshop with a sizable bag of useful ideas to motivate her students to write more and better, a sketchbook full of essays for herself. I give this course an A." Nicole Fandel, Teacher of French Concord Academy, Acton, MA "The workshop helped me to determine the elements I needed to have in my life for me to continue to be a successful creative thinker. As principal of an elementary school I have been able to put together enough of the workshop=92s material to teach my staff the skills of being = a more creative thinker and, in turn, they will teach the students. Shelley and Alejandro are masters in their craft." Lee Koran, Principal St. Patrick Fine Arts Elementary School, Alberta, Canada Founded and directed by Shelley Berc and Alejandro Fogel in 1993, the Creativity Workshop has been taught by them at educational, corporate, cultural and governmental institutions throughout the world. 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Perth, Australia - Indiana University - International School Bangkok - International School of Beijing-Shunyi - International School of Prague - International Schools Services - Johns Hopkins University - LaGuardia Community College - Lancaster Country Day School - Langara College - Library of Congress - Macquarie University - Mamaroneck UFSD - Manhattanville College - Massachusetts Institute of Technology - Media Communications Association - Mercersburg Academy - Minnesota State University Moorehead - Munich Television and Film School. Munich, Germany - NJ Orange School District - NSW Writers Workshop. Sydney, Australia. - National Association of Elementary School Principals - National Institute of Education at Singapore University - Nebraska Wesleyan University - Nerengi Institute. Istanbul, Turkey - New York University - Northern Michigan University - Open Society Institute. Budapest, Hungary - Oxnard Elementary School Districe - Pennsylvania State University - Pepperdine University - Performance Studies Department / University of Sydney. Sydney, Australia - Phillips Academy - Phillips Exeter Academy - Poly Prep CDS - Portland Stage Company. Portland, Maine - Prague Summer Writers Workshop. Prague, Czech Republic - Princeton Day School - Rollins College - Rose Community Foundation/Impulse Theater - Saint Cloud State University - Saint Louis Priory School - San Diego State University - Sarah Lawrence College - Scuola Drammatica San Remo. San Remo, Italy - Scuola Sagarana. Lucca, Italy - Sidwell Friends School - Skidmore College - Southampton College - Spoleto Arts Symposia. Spoleto, Italy - Srishti School of Art Design & Technology. Bangalore, India - St. John's International School - St. Patrick Fine Arts Elementary School - The American International School of Budapest - The American School in London - The American School of Asuncion - The American School of Warsaw - The Anglo-American School of Moscow - The Art Alliance - The Chinese University of Hong Kong - The Fessenden School - The Hamlin School - The Overlake School - The University of Prince Edward Island - The University of Vermont - The University of Western Australia - The University of Wisconsin Madison - Thomasville City Schools - Unionville-Chadds Ford School District - United Nations International School - United World College. Trieste, Italy - University of California Berkeley - University of Iowa - University of Michigan - University of Missouri-Columbia - University of Nebraska Lincoln - University of South Dakota - University of Southern California - University of Victoria - Utrecht University - Washington International School - Wheaton Academy - Wheaton College - White Communications - Writing Beyond the Walls. Lucca, Italy - Yldiz University. Istanbul, Turkey Government US State Department, Washington, D.C., USA - US Embassy. Tel Aviv, Israel. - US Embassy. Rome, Italy. - US Consulate. Milan, Italy. - US Embassy. Istambul, Turkey. - US Embassy. Canberra, Australia. - US Embassy. Budapest, Hungary. - US Embassy. Singapore. The teachers Shelley Berc is a writer and teacher. She was a professor of the International Writing Program at the University of Iowa from 1985-2000. Her novels, plays, and essays which include 'The Shape of Wilderness', 'A Girl's Guide to the Divine Comedy' and 'Theatre of the Mind' have been published by Coffee House Press, Johns Hopkins Press, Heinemann Books, Performing Arts Journal and Theatre Communications Group Press. Her plays have been produced by theatres such as the American Repertory Theatre, the Yale Rep, and the Edinburgh Festival. Alejandro Fogel is a visual artist and teacher working in painting, site installations, video and digital art. He has exhibited his works in galleries and museums in Argentina, Bulgaria, Cuba, France, Hungary, Israel, Italy, Netherlands, Spain, United States and Germany. His ongoing project 'Root to Route' chronicles his father's journey through the Holocaust years. His work is in private collections and museums around the world. Berc and Fogel explain in theory and demonstrate in practice the concepts of originality, 'appropriation', memory and imagination. Under their guidance, participants explore their own creative processes through different writing and drawing exercises. They emphasize the intimate link between personal and public spheres, individual and social practices, history and myth, dream and reality. The focus of the workshop is on process not product and to help participants find life-long tools of creative expression. http://www.creativity-course.com To canc=E9l these communications: mailto:mail@create-course.com From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jul 28 03:53:11 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BpjFP-0004SC-4Y for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 03:53:11 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BpjFK-0004R8-PH for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 03:53:06 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BpjFG-0004Q9-Pr for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 03:53:03 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BpjFC-0004Q1-1B; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 03:53:02 -0400 Received: from [194.109.24.34] (helo=smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BpjBe-0004nK-W9; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 03:49:19 -0400 Received: from byrd.xs4all.nl.byrd.xs4all.nl (byrd.xs4all.nl [213.84.26.127]) by smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6S7nHTe015916; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 09:49:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from hanwen@xs4all.nl) From: Han-Wen Nienhuys MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16647.23167.807323.987835@byrd.xs4all.nl> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 09:49:19 +0200 To: "Anthony W. Youngman" Subject: Band parts - a newbie's view In-Reply-To: <200407272319.i6RNJ0fX011724@mailhost1.vuse.vanderbilt.edu> References: <200407272319.i6RNJ0fX011724@mailhost1.vuse.vanderbilt.edu> X-Mailer: VM 7.14 under Emacs 21.3.1 X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: lilypond-devel@gnu.org, lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: hanwen@xs4all.nl List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 07:53:08 -0000 wol@thewolery.demon.co.uk writes: > Two other annoyances (and in my mind they're UI blunders ...). > Practically every piece of music I've played that has letter rehearsal > marks DOES use the letter I. It's fine to have a default that doesn't, you have a point there. The first part I checked this in (old B&H) does have the letter I, but lacks the letter J. Can anyone provide useful statistics? We're looking for the layout of classical orchestral material. Check out scm/ directory for the definition of format-mark-letters, and setting markFormatter to something different will change the layout. > The other is, if I ask for a time signature of 3/4, that's what I get. > Or 9/8. Or 6/8. Or 5/4 or almost anything. But if I ask for 2/2 or 4/4, > then that's what I DON'T get. Bad bad bad! If I want common or > cut-common, then I should be able to ask for that directly. And in my > experience 4/4 and common are not the same thing - I often play pieces > that have both ... Interesting; what is the difference between C and 4/4? > Have any of these points been addressed post 2.2.2? And if not, where > and how do I go about "fixing" them? 2.2 is only open for serious problems for which there are no work-arounds. Try the 2.3.x branch, which is open for development. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys | hanwen@xs4all.nl | http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jul 28 05:17:05 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BpkYb-0003Fn-IR for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 05:17:05 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BpkYZ-0003Ff-UT for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 05:17:04 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BpkYZ-0003FT-Et for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 05:17:03 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BpkYW-0003Eo-Mz; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 05:17:00 -0400 Received: from [213.31.226.166] (helo=relay01.par.totalfinaelf.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BpkV7-0006uE-2g; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 05:13:29 -0400 Received: from relay01.par.totalfinaelf.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.par.totalfinaelf.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 474E611BD93; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 08:58:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from heu-fm-09.europe.hd.corp.local (unknown [10.22.149.3]) by SEA-PAR-SUN-SMTP-02A.totalfinaelf.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21EEE11B47F; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 08:58:00 +0000 (GMT) Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?R=E9f=2E_=3A_Raising_markups?= To: "shelagh X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.12 February 13, 2003 Message-ID: From: Jean-marc LEGRAND Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 11:13:02 +0200 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on XFRPAR-HE05/GROUP/Corp(Release 6.5.1|January 21, 2004) at 28/07/2004 11:13:26 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Cc: lilypond-user-bounces+jean-marc.legrand=total.com@gnu.org, lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jean-marc LEGRAND List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 09:17:04 -0000 Hi ! I've found this to put the mark wherever I want : \once \property Voic= e.TextScript \override #'extra-offset =3D #'(x . y) a2.^\markup {\italic {e}}. I adjust x and = y after a few tries. Have some fun ! = = Shelagh = = Envoy=E9 par : = Pour : lilypond-user@gnu.org = lilypond-user-bounces+jean-marc.legrand=3Dtotal. = cc : = com@gnu.org = Objet : Raising markups = = = = = 19/07/2004 01:33 = = = = = = I was waondering how you would raise markups when they are of the sort \mark \markup { \musicglyph #"scripts-segno"}. I tried experimenting with \raise # 2.0 and the realised this was only in relation to the other markup text. I tried to follow the padding commands but I didn't 'get it'. Any suggestions? Shelagh PS Before I sent this I did one further experiment. I \mark \markup {" " \raise #3.0 \musicglyph #"sript-coda"} And it worked. Maybe this will be useful for others. But I'd still like to know how to use the padding command for these items in a global override? SOM _______________________________________________ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user = From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jul 28 07:23:06 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BpmWY-0004Ns-Bs for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 07:23:06 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BpmWW-0004Nm-24 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 07:23:04 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BpmWV-0004Na-Er for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 07:23:03 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BpmWV-0004NX-C7 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 07:23:03 -0400 Received: from [130.238.7.33] (helo=limicola.its.uu.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BpmSq-00065S-3X for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 07:19:16 -0400 Received: by limicola.its.uu.se (Postfix, from userid 205) id 35FB84B83; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 13:19:14 +0200 (MSZ) Received: from limicola.its.uu.se(127.0.0.1) by limicola.its.uu.se via virus-scan id s3608; Wed, 28 Jul 04 13:19:09 +0200 Received: from nl04-163-41.student.uu.se (regulus3.student.uu.se [130.238.5.5]) by limicola.its.uu.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42B65116824; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 13:19:09 +0200 (MSZ) From: Erik Sandberg Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: clef after bar Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 13:19:07 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <6.1.2.0.2.20040727221553.03245150@mail> In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20040727221553.03245150@mail> X-Answer: 42 X-All-Your-Base: Are Belong To Us X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200407281319.07733.ersa9195@student.uu.se> Cc: X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: erik.sandberg.9195@student.uu.se List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 11:23:04 -0000 On Tuesday 27 July 2004 22.28, Thorkil Wolvendans wrote: > Hi everyone! > > At a certain point in a composition, I try to make a new clef appear after > the barline instead of before, without a positive result. > Is it possible in Lily to achieve this? I searched the docs, but couldn't > find an answer. The easiest way is probably to cheat, by inserting a very short skip before the clef. Instead of c4 c c c | \clef "alto" c c c c | do c4 c c c | \skip 16 \clef "alto" c4*3/4 c4 c c | Erik From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jul 28 07:35:17 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BpmiL-00065a-9e for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 07:35:17 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BpmiJ-00065C-S9 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 07:35:15 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BpmiH-00064K-UE for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 07:35:15 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BpmiH-00064H-QX; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 07:35:13 -0400 Received: from [212.227.126.173] (helo=moutng.kundenserver.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bpmey-0007oq-Ns; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 07:31:49 -0400 Received: from [212.227.126.161] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1Bpmen-0002wY-00; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 13:31:37 +0200 Received: from [218.174.44.92] (helo=orion.univie.ac.at) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (TLSv1:EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1Bpmel-0007P6-00; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 13:31:36 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.univie.ac.at (8.11.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id i6S9JxO29937; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 11:19:59 +0200 Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 11:19:59 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <20040728.111959.169234063.wl@gnu.org> To: hanwen@xs4all.nl Subject: Re: Band parts - a newbie's view From: Werner LEMBERG In-Reply-To: <16647.23167.807323.987835@byrd.xs4all.nl> References: <200407272319.i6RNJ0fX011724@mailhost1.vuse.vanderbilt.edu> <16647.23167.807323.987835@byrd.xs4all.nl> X-Mailer: Mew version 4.0.65 on Emacs 21.3.50.1 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:2dc398bc694a1e60948148ba0a42c0da Cc: wol@thewolery.demon.co.uk, lilypond-user@gnu.org, lilypond-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 11:35:16 -0000 > > The other is, if I ask for a time signature of 3/4, that's what I > > get. Or 9/8. Or 6/8. Or 5/4 or almost anything. But if I ask for > > 2/2 or 4/4, then that's what I DON'T get. Bad bad bad! If I want > > common or cut-common, then I should be able to ask for that > > directly. And in my experience 4/4 and common are not the same > > thing - I often play pieces that have both ... > > Interesting; what is the difference between C and 4/4? Basically, there isn't IMHO, but in modern scores if you have numbers everywhere for time signatures, having C instead of 4/4 as the default looks funny. My solution (within the 2.2 series) to globally use 4/4 is this: ... \paper { \context { \StaffContext \override TimeSignature #'style = #'() } } Werner From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jul 28 08:48:44 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BpnrQ-00040f-00 for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 08:48:44 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BpnrN-00040M-VX for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 08:48:42 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BpnrN-000406-BV for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 08:48:41 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BpnrM-0003zp-41; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 08:48:40 -0400 Received: from [194.217.242.85] (helo=anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bpnnj-00023O-RS; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 08:44:56 -0400 Received: from pr-webmail-2.demon.net ([194.159.244.50] helo=web.mail.demon.net) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1Bpnni-000MqK-0Z; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 12:44:54 +0000 Received: from thewolery.demon.co.uk ([212.2.8.133]) by web.mail.demon.net with http; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 13:44:54 +0100 From: lilypond@thewolery.demon.co.uk To: hanwen@xs4all.nl ,wol@thewolery.demon.co.uk In-Reply-To: <16647.23167.807323.987835@byrd.xs4all.nl> Subject: Re: Band parts - a newbie's view Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 13:44:54 +0100 User-Agent: Demon-WebMail/2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org, lilypond-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 12:48:42 -0000 hanwen@xs4all.nl wrote: > wol@thewolery.demon.co.uk writes: > > Two other annoyances (and in my mind they're UI blunders ...). > > Practically every piece of music I've played that has letter rehearsal > > marks DOES use the letter I. It's fine to have a default that doesn't, > > you have a point there. The first part I checked this in (old B&H) > does have the letter I, but lacks the letter J. Can anyone provide > useful statistics? We're looking for the layout of classical > orchestral material. I don't play in an orchestra. Just a concert and a couple of brass bands :-) What I would do (and will if I can) is allow the user to pass a list of marks to use. That way we don't restrict them to the latin-1 alphabet if, for example, they want to use the alphabet that goes "a beta gamma delta e phi ..." :-) > > > The other is, if I ask for a time signature of 3/4, that's what I get. > > Or 9/8. Or 6/8. Or 5/4 or almost anything. But if I ask for 2/2 or 4/4, > > then that's what I DON'T get. Bad bad bad! If I want common or > > cut-common, then I should be able to ask for that directly. And in my > > experience 4/4 and common are not the same thing - I often play pieces > > that have both ... > > Interesting; what is the difference between C and 4/4? This is a complete off-the-wall guess ... but I'm guessing that common time is often the only or main time signature in a piece, and tends to be used for march tempo. I haven't got a march book in front of me to check, but I think they tend to be 6/8 or common (or cut common). Dance or orchestral stuff feels more "4/4" to me. In other words, given a *homogenous* piece, you can't mix common time with bars with an odd number of beats. Which explains why the main place I tend to meet both common and 4/4 time in the same piece is in a selection piece. > > > Have any of these points been addressed post 2.2.2? And if not, where > > and how do I go about "fixing" them? > > 2.2 is only open for serious problems for which there are no > work-arounds. Try the 2.3.x branch, which is open for development. > I presume, then, I need to download the source and start programming in C++ and python. Fine. This sort of stuff is not in the Scheme directory included as part of the user install? Cheers, Wol From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jul 28 09:04:14 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bpo6Q-0007OX-5K for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 09:04:14 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bpo6O-0007OE-Kf for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 09:04:12 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bpo6N-0007Nh-Er for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 09:04:12 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bpo6N-0007Nb-0h for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 09:04:11 -0400 Received: from [213.223.49.230] (helo=relay01.par.totalfinaelf.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bpo2v-0004WT-Hg for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 09:00:37 -0400 Received: from relay01.par.totalfinaelf.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.par.totalfinaelf.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C53011BE13 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 12:45:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from heu-fm-09.europe.hd.corp.local (unknown [10.22.149.3]) by SEA-PAR-SUN-SMTP-02A.totalfinaelf.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07DE511BDD1 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 12:45:10 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Baroque tab To: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.12 February 13, 2003 Message-ID: From: Jean-marc LEGRAND Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 15:00:32 +0200 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on XFRPAR-HE05/GROUP/Corp(Release 6.5.1|January 21, 2004) at 28/07/2004 15:00:36 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jean-marc LEGRAND List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 13:04:12 -0000 Hi list ! I'm wondering how to create tabs for the Theorbe (7 stirngs for the small staff, and 7 for the grandstaff). I've read something p74 but it only concerns the guitezr. How can I adapt the number of lines and the notation style (letters instead of figures) ? Regards From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jul 28 12:13:32 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bpr3c-0006Ev-ON for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 12:13:32 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bpr3b-0006Eq-Es for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 12:13:31 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bpr3Z-0006Ed-S9 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 12:13:31 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bpr3Z-0006Ea-Ov for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 12:13:29 -0400 Received: from [212.21.114.9] (helo=mail.tribaldata.co.uk) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bpr06-0008U6-D5 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 12:09:54 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.132 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Band parts - a newbie's view Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 17:09:49 +0100 Message-ID: Importance: normal Priority: normal X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Re: Band parts - a newbie's view thread-index: AcR0vVCJyjj37qoXRYmajd3mgSWqWA== From: "Ralph Little" To: , Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 16:13:31 -0000 Hi, Unless I'm mistaken, cut-common and common-time are actually different things. Cut-common is the same as 2/2 not 4/4, whereas common-time and 4/4 are the same thing. Cut-common is usually represented with a C with a slash through. Cut-common is often found in band parts and effectively doubles the pace, at least that is my interpretation. Any other opinions? Regards, Ralph ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------- > The other is, if I ask for a time signature of 3/4, that's what I get. > Or 9/8. Or 6/8. Or 5/4 or almost anything. But if I ask for 2/2 or 4/4,=20 > then that's what I DON'T get. Bad bad bad! If I want common or=20 > cut-common, then I should be able to ask for that directly. And in my=20 > experience 4/4 and common are not the same thing - I often play pieces > that have both ... 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Thank you. ----------- From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jul 28 13:32:31 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BpsI3-0007bV-0v for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 13:32:31 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BpsI0-0007bP-S3 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 13:32:28 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BpsHz-0007bD-1x for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 13:32:28 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BpsHy-0007bA-V1 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 13:32:27 -0400 Received: from [130.83.167.3] (helo=cdc-info.cdc.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1BpsET-0004MZ-02 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 13:28:49 -0400 Received: from cdc-ws9.cdc.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (cdc-ws9 [130.83.167.17]) by cdc-info.cdc.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7783D2CC0 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 19:28:40 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from cludwig@localhost) by cdc-ws9.cdc.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id i6SHSdR11269 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 19:28:39 +0200 (MEST) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 19:28:38 +0200 From: Christoph Ludwig To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Band parts - a newbie's view Message-ID: <20040728172838.GF11223@cdc-ws9.cdc.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de> Mail-Followup-To: lilypond-user@gnu.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 17:32:29 -0000 Hi, On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 05:09:49PM +0100, Ralph Little wrote: > Unless I'm mistaken, cut-common and common-time are actually different > things. > Cut-common is the same as 2/2 not 4/4, whereas common-time and 4/4 are > the same thing. I have also seen examples where common-time meant 4/2. I don't have music sheets handy, but, e.g., in "dtv-Atlas zur Musik", page 82, there's an excerpt from Monteverdi's Aria of Orfeo (1607) that shows this usage. But if you look up "alla breve" (cut-common) in the same encyclopedia, then you find more or less the same explanation you gave above. Go figure... Regards Christoph -- http://www.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de/TI/Mitarbeiter/cludwig.html LiDIA: http://www.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de/TI/LiDIA/Welcome.html From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jul 28 17:33:03 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bpw2p-0001NS-N8 for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 17:33:03 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bpw2p-0001NM-3e for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 17:33:03 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bpw2m-0001NA-N9 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 17:33:02 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bpw2m-0001N7-KB for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 17:33:00 -0400 Received: from [202.215.247.5] (helo=nsteak.annie.ne.jp) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1BpvzZ-0004d4-2K for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 17:29:41 -0400 Received: from HP10408308422 (178.153.150.220.ap.yournet.ne.jp [220.150.153.178]) by nsteak.annie.ne.jp (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with SMTP id i6S4mPZ0095388 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 13:48:26 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from manboguudelu@yahoo.co.jp) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 13:48:25 +0900 (JST) Subject: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?ivOWXYLMinqC8JdwiNOCooK9grWC3IK3gUKOhILMmGKC8JW3gqKCxIKigr2CvoKvgtyCuYLxgqmBSA==?= From: manboguudelu@yahoo.co.jp To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Message-ID: 20040728134757 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="SHIFT_JIS" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to base64 by nsteak.annie.ne.jp id i6S4mPZ0095388 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 21:33:03 -0000 k8uRUoLMg4GBW4OLgsWQXIK1lvOCyIKigsaOdoLBgsSCooLcgreBQotNlfuCqor5jaWO0oLF guCU3o+XgqqCooLEguCCqYLcgqKC3IK5gvGBSZTplqeCzYy1jueCtYLcgreBQg0KglGCWI3O g2+DY4NDg2CCxYK3gUKCUpROkU+Coo7lkGyC8JZTgq2CtYFBjmSOloLJlr6Cr5XpguqC6ZaI k/qC8IKogq2CwYLEgqKC3IK1gr2BQg0KjcWPiYLNmGKC8JW3gqKCxJK4gq2CvoKvgsWC4IKp gtyCooLcgrmC8YFBguSCrYLkgq2CzZBTgsyLloK5gumK1oxXgsmCyILBgsSCooKvguqCzoLG jnaCooOBgVuDi4LwgrWC3IK1gr2BQotNlfuCzI78guiCyYLNiOqQ2JbAmGaCzYKpgq+C6YLC guCC6ILggqCC6ILcgrmC8YFCguaC64K1gq+C6oLOgqiRio7ogvCCtYLEkriCr4LcgrmC8YLF grWC5YKkgqmBSILggr+C64Lxi02V+4LMjp6K1ILwj62CtYKzgqKCxIKigr2CvoKtlaqCzIrz ll2KeoLwl3CI04K1gtyCt4FCgruC6oK+gq+CzI6eitSC4I6Ri+CC4IKgguiC3IK3gWOCvYK+ joSCyYLNl36LgYK+gq+Cqpaegr2Cs4LqgsSCooLcgrmC8YFjgUINCo6EgsyQU4LMjIqC8JaE gt+CxJK4gq+C3IK5gvGCqYFIMYLCgr6Cr46EgsyK6IKigvCKkIKmgsSCrYK+grOCooFCgqKC ooKoldSOloLwgqiR0oK/grWCxILcgreBQg0KDQqToZOwlPyXUpecICA8bWFuYm9ndXVkZWx1 QHlhaG9vLmNvLmpwPg0KDQoNCg0K From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Jul 28 19:11:55 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BpxaU-0001IA-TQ for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 19:11:55 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BpxaS-0001I1-Qr for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 19:11:53 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BpxaQ-0001Hp-MO for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 19:11:52 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BpxaP-0001Hm-Lt for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 19:11:50 -0400 Received: from [199.185.220.220] (helo=priv-edtnes56.telusplanet.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BpxWo-00049B-Oz for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 19:08:07 -0400 Received: from [207.6.220.238] by priv-edtnes56.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.03.02 201-2131-111-104-20040324) with ESMTP id <20040728230805.JPTZ3642.priv-edtnes56.telusplanet.net@[207.6.220.238]> for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 17:08:05 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Rogers Subject: Re: Band parts - a newbie's view Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 15:58:31 -0700 To: Lilypond-User X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 23:11:53 -0000 On Jul 28, 2004, at 9:09 AM, Ralph Little wrote: > Cut-common is often found in band parts and effectively doubles the > pace, at least that is my interpretation. It all depends on the tempo markings, of course. It's quite possible to have a slow 2/2. The real difference is in the accents and the "feel" of the music. 2/2 flows differently from 4/4 because there are fewer beats (and therefore fewer accents) per bar. As far as whether one uses numbers or c-shaped symbols, I think that the c-shaped symbols are traditional in certain types of music, but that the numbers seem to have become standard practice in modern music. It would make sense to me for Lilypond to have choices like use-numbers or use-symbols. (And what about the circle-with-a-line that Bach uses for 16/8 in the gigue of the E major keyboard partita? Is that in Lilypond somewhere, or is it too obscure to include such things?) David From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 29 00:38:39 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bq2gg-00073m-Kf for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 00:38:38 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bq2ge-00073e-Ph for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 00:38:36 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bq2gd-00073E-KC for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 00:38:36 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bq2gd-000734-Ig for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 00:38:35 -0400 Received: from [209.225.28.223] (helo=mxsf23.cluster1.charter.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bq2cq-0003ik-09 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 00:34:40 -0400 Received: from mxip16.cluster1.charter.net (mxip16a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.146]) by mxsf23.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6T4YbP4028374 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 00:34:38 -0400 Received: from 24-159-235-47.jvl.wi.charter.com (HELO 192.168.0.2) (24.159.235.47) by mxip16.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 29 Jul 2004 00:34:37 -0400 X-Ironport-AV: i="3.83,94,1089000000"; d="scan'208"; a="146772328:sNHT12836704" From: Lyle Raymond To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Trouble with lilypond-book Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 23:42:35 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200407282342.37456.sly_raymond@charter.net> X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 04:38:37 -0000 I'm confused... I'm working on a theory book for guitarists. In the book, fretboard diagrams are created by first importing a {picture} file, titled "open_fretboard.tex," then superimposing another picture containing x's, o's and whatnot on top of it. Thus, the structure of a fretboard diagram in chapter one is as follows: book.tex ^---contains--->"\input{chapter1.tex}" chapter1.tex ^---contains--->"\input{open_fretboard}.tex", then "\begin{picture}" This works until I want to use lilypond's chord symbols. I tried: "\begin{lilypond} \end{lilypond}" ...inside the {picture} in chapter1.tex, but "$lilypond-book book.tex" results in an environment undefined error. Where should the lilypond code go, and upon what file do I run lilypond-book? Lyle -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 1.0 GMU/O d+@ s: a C++ UL P+>++++ L++ E-(---) W++ N++ o--@ K- w+(--) !O !M V PS--(+) PE++ Y !PGP t+() !5 X+() R+++($) tv b++>+++ DI@ !D G e++>++++ h---@ r++ y? ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 29 04:21:13 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bq6A5-0003gH-Iu for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 04:21:13 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bq6A3-0003fz-4F for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 04:21:11 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bq6A2-0003fS-7r for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 04:21:10 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bq6A0-0003ct-59; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 04:21:08 -0400 Received: from [130.237.43.24] (helo=iris.s3.kth.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bq66V-00069T-3n; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 04:17:31 -0400 Received: from localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.md.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id D08C861A93; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:17:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se ([130.237.43.24]) by localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id 27768-10; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:17:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A27B61A98; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:17:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [130.237.50.49] (drongo.s3.kth.se [130.237.50.49]) by iris.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FDDA61A93; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:17:27 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4108B297.7060804@s3.kth.se> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:17:27 +0200 From: Mats Bengtsson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jean-marc LEGRAND Subject: Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?R=E9f=2E_=3A_Raising_markups?= References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: lilypond-user-bounces+jean-marc.legrand=total.com@gnu.org, lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 08:21:11 -0000 I always recommend the padding property instead of the extra-offset property if you only want to move an object vertically. The reason is that LilyPond takes the additional space into account, for example when calculating the distance between the staves if you use padding, whareas the extra-offset moves the object after all other typesetting decisions have been taken into account. If you search the mailing list archives, you should find numerous examples of how to set the padding property of text markups, but for the record here it comes again (in the syntax for version 2.2.x, Jean-Marc used the 2.0.x syntax in his answer, always tell what LilyPond version you use to get an accurate answer). \once \override TextScript #'padding =3D #3.0 /Mats Jean-marc LEGRAND wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 > Hi ! > I've found this to put the mark wherever I want : \once \property Voic= e.TextScript \override > #'extra-offset =3D #'(x . y) a2.^\markup {\italic {e}}. I adjust x and = y after a few tries. >=20 > Have some fun ! >=20 >=20 > = = =20 > Shelagh = = =20 > Envoy=E9 par : = Pour : lilypond-user@gnu.org = =20 > lilypond-user-bounces+jean-marc.legrand=3Dtotal. = cc : = =20 > com@gnu.org = Objet : Raising markups = =20 > = = =20 > = = =20 > 19/07/2004 01:33 = = =20 > = = =20 > = = =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > I was waondering how you would raise markups when they are > of the sort \mark \markup { \musicglyph #"scripts-segno"}. > I tried experimenting with \raise # 2.0 and the realised this > was only in relation to the other markup text. I tried to follow > the padding commands but I didn't 'get it'. > Any suggestions? >=20 > Shelagh >=20 > PS Before I sent this I did one further experiment. I > \mark \markup {" " \raise #3.0 \musicglyph #"sript-coda"} > And it worked. Maybe this will be useful for others. > But I'd still like to know how to use the padding command for these > items in a global override? >=20 > SOM >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 =09 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: mats.bengtsson@s3.kth.se WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 29 04:23:13 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bq6C1-0004Zj-Lt for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 04:23:13 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bq6By-0004Xz-FR for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 04:23:10 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bq6Bx-0004Xf-DS for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 04:23:09 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bq6Bv-0004Wr-Nh; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 04:23:07 -0400 Received: from [130.237.43.24] (helo=iris.s3.kth.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bq68d-0006O7-93; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 04:19:43 -0400 Received: from localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.md.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E42261A98; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:19:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se ([130.237.43.24]) by localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id 27852-05; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:19:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id E94A561A9B; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:19:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [130.237.50.49] (drongo.s3.kth.se [130.237.50.49]) by iris.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7F0761A98; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:19:40 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4108B31D.3070501@s3.kth.se> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:19:41 +0200 From: Mats Bengtsson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hanwen@xs4all.nl Subject: Re: Band parts - a newbie's view References: <200407272319.i6RNJ0fX011724@mailhost1.vuse.vanderbilt.edu> <16647.23167.807323.987835@byrd.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <16647.23167.807323.987835@byrd.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org, lilypond-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 08:23:11 -0000 >>Two other annoyances (and in my mind they're UI blunders ...). >>Practically every piece of music I've played that has letter rehearsal >>marks DOES use the letter I. It's fine to have a default that doesn't, > > > you have a point there. The first part I checked this in (old B&H) > does have the letter I, but lacks the letter J. Can anyone provide > useful statistics? We're looking for the layout of classical > orchestral material. I've seen lots of scores that use I but not J and lots that have J but not I. The only rule I can see is that you almost never use both I and J in the same score, to reduce the risk of confusing them. /Mats From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 29 05:08:51 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bq6uA-0004i5-JT for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 05:08:50 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bq6u8-0004i0-9J for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 05:08:48 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bq6u5-0004hn-Dl for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 05:08:46 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bq6u5-0004hk-5Z for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 05:08:45 -0400 Received: from [212.21.114.9] (helo=mail.tribaldata.co.uk) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bq6qS-000454-FS for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 05:05:00 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.132 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: Band parts - a newbie's view Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:04:58 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Band parts - a newbie's view thread-index: AcR0yLTE6yhfWamjQJyjAU8jDWeoNwAgZeWA Importance: normal Priority: normal From: "Ralph Little" To: "David Rogers" Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 09:08:48 -0000 Hi, Yup, I agree with all of that. My statement regarding increase in tempo is from experience of it's use rather than any implied meaning. In brass band parts we often see it used as a mechanism to double pace from common time (and feel of pace, with it being 2 beats per bar), but it is usually accompanied by a qualifying tempo indication. But you are quite correct, there is no explicit difference in pace. Regards, Ralph -------------------------------------- Ralph.Little@tribaldata.co.uk www.tribaldata.co.uk ...or see what I do in my spare time: www.skelmanthorpeband.org -------------------------------------- "Man who shoot off mouth... expect to lose face."=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: David Rogers [mailto:davidrogers@telus.net]=20 > Sent: 28 July 2004 18:31 > To: Ralph Little > Subject: Re: Band parts - a newbie's view >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Jul 28, 2004, at 9:09 AM, Ralph Little wrote: >=20 > > Cut-common is often found in band parts and effectively doubles the > > pace, at least that is my interpretation. >=20 > It all depends on the tempo markings, of course. It's quite=20 > possible to=20 > have a slow 2/2. The real difference is in the accents and the "feel"=20 > of the music. 2/2 flows differently from 4/4 because there are fewer=20 > beats (and therefore fewer accents) per bar. >=20 > As far as whether one uses numbers or c-shaped symbols, I think that=20 > the c-shaped symbols are traditional in certain types of music, but=20 > that the numbers seem to have become standard practice in=20 > modern music.=20 > It would make sense to me for Lilypond to have choices like=20 > use-numbers=20 > or use-symbols. (And what about the circle-with-a-line that Bach uses=20 > for 16/8 in the gigue of the E major keyboard partita? Is that in=20 > Lilypond somewhere, or is it too obscure to include such things?) >=20 > David >=20 >=20 --------- Tribal Data Solutions has moved, please visit our website for more = details http://www.tribaldata.co.uk.=20 This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and are sent on the = basis of our copyright, e-mail and security policy which can be = inspected by visiting http://www.tribaldata.co.uk/policies.asp. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and = delete this message. Thank you. ----------- From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 29 05:13:55 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bq6z1-0005UH-Qb for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 05:13:52 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bq6yw-0005U4-4z for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 05:13:46 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bq6yu-0005Ts-Ft for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 05:13:44 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bq6yt-0005Tp-Q8 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 05:13:44 -0400 Received: from [130.237.43.24] (helo=iris.s3.kth.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bq6vL-0004lY-8S for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 05:10:03 -0400 Received: from localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.md.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D11D61A93; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:10:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se ([130.237.43.24]) by localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id 28973-07; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:10:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id D86DB61A9B; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:10:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [130.237.50.49] (drongo.s3.kth.se [130.237.50.49]) by iris.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD73D61A93; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:10:00 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4108BEE9.2050105@s3.kth.se> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:10:01 +0200 From: Mats Bengtsson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: erik.sandberg.9195@student.uu.se Subject: Re: clef after bar References: <6.1.2.0.2.20040727221553.03245150@mail> <200407281319.07733.ersa9195@student.uu.se> In-Reply-To: <200407281319.07733.ersa9195@student.uu.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 09:13:48 -0000 The order can be customized simply by settting a property, there's no need to mess up the rhythm with short skips: \score{\notes\relative c'{ \override Score.BreakAlignment #'break-align-orders = ##(; end-of-line: (instrument-name left-edge ambitus breathing-sign clef staff-bar key-signature time-signature custos) ; unbroken (instrument-name left-edge ambitus breathing-sign staff-bar clef key-signature staff time-signature custos) ; begin of line (instrument-name left-edge ambitus breathing-sign clef key-signature staff-bar time-signature custos) ) c4 c c c | \once \override Staff.Clef #'non-default = ##t \clef "alto" c c c c | } } As you can see, the list gets very long since the settings are different at line ends, line starts and in the middle of the line. If you just want to do the setting once using \once in a score, you can save some lines by using the trick in input/regression/ambitus.ly. /Mats Erik Sandberg wrote: > On Tuesday 27 July 2004 22.28, Thorkil Wolvendans wrote: > >>Hi everyone! >> >>At a certain point in a composition, I try to make a new clef appear after >>the barline instead of before, without a positive result. >>Is it possible in Lily to achieve this? I searched the docs, but couldn't >>find an answer. > > > The easiest way is probably to cheat, by inserting a very short skip before > the clef. Instead of > > c4 c c c | \clef "alto" c c c c | > do > c4 c c c | \skip 16 \clef "alto" c4*3/4 c4 c c | > > Erik > > > _______________________________________________ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- ============================================= Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: mats.bengtsson@s3.kth.se WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe ============================================= From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 29 05:29:19 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bq7Dz-0008EO-04 for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 05:29:19 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bq7Dx-0008DL-2L for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 05:29:17 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bq7Dv-0008B8-B5 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 05:29:16 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bq7Dv-0008B2-8k for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 05:29:15 -0400 Received: from [130.237.43.24] (helo=iris.s3.kth.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bq7AH-0006s4-7f for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 05:25:29 -0400 Received: from localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.md.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC2B361A93; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:25:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se ([130.237.43.24]) by localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id 29297-07; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:25:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id B15B461A98; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:25:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [130.237.50.49] (drongo.s3.kth.se [130.237.50.49]) by iris.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FDE861A93; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:25:26 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4108C287.9070400@s3.kth.se> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:25:27 +0200 From: Mats Bengtsson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: olivier.cloirec@free.fr Subject: Re: 2 questions - ties and midi, ties notes in a separate coda References: <1090923432.41062ba88d8d3@imp3-q.free.fr> In-Reply-To: <1090923432.41062ba88d8d3@imp3-q.free.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 09:29:17 -0000 >>2) In another song the coda was separated from the main score. The >>structure of the song is like this >> >>music repeat x2 music skip to coda >> >>The problem is that the note that is on the barline which skips is tied so >>the coda begins with the end of a tied note. I played around with \skips >>but nothing looked promising. Does anyone have any suggestions? I'm not sure exactly what you mean, but you may have to fake the desired layout by using ties to and from an unvisible note, respectively: Before the skip: g2*1/2 ~ \hideNotes g2*1/2 \unHideNotes At the beginning of the Coda: \hideNotes g2*1/2 ~ \unHideNotes g2*1/2 The *1/2 is a trick to get the correct rhythm, the note is printed using the original duration, 2 in this case, but internally, LilyPond thinks it only occupies half the duration. The same trick is useful if you have a tie to the second alternative ending of a repeat. /Mats From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 29 05:38:17 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bq7Mf-0001UN-Fc for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 05:38:17 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bq7Md-0001SR-Dq for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 05:38:15 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bq7Mc-0001Rr-OY for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 05:38:15 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bq7Mc-0001Rn-GK for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 05:38:14 -0400 Received: from [212.21.114.9] (helo=mail.tribaldata.co.uk) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bq7JG-00084r-VZ for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 05:34:47 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.132 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: Band parts - a newbie's view Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:34:47 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Band parts - a newbie's view Importance: normal Priority: normal thread-index: AcR0yLTE6yhfWamjQJyjAU8jDWeoNwAgZeWAAAEWUVA= From: "Ralph Little" To: Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 09:38:15 -0000 Hi, Getting a bit off topic here, but a quick search on Google reveals the following, which may the answer to the 4/2 /alla breve issue: http://www.music.indiana.edu/som/courses/rhythm/illustrations/large_alla _breve.html and to quote: ----------8<----------8<----------8<----------8<----------8<----------8< ----------8<---- "large alla breve" Definition: The name given to compound 4/2 meter by German theorists and composers of the first half of the eighteenth century. They ascribed equal metric weight to the first and third half-note beats of the bar. Consequently, they regarded each measure of this type as a composite of two 2/2 bars. Baroque and classical composers employed large alla breve in slow movements of sacred works and in works written in stile antico. During the first half of the eighteenth century, German theorists and composers regarded the stately 4/4 frequently employed in fugues as a notational variant of large alla breve. See Grave (1985).=20 ----------8<----------8<----------8<----------8<----------8<----------8< ----------8<---- Well, I didn't know that! Regards, Ralph -------------------------------------- Ralph.Little@tribaldata.co.uk www.tribaldata.co.uk ...or see what I do in my spare time: www.skelmanthorpeband.org -------------------------------------- "Man who shoot off mouth... expect to lose face."=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Ralph Little=20 > Sent: 29 July 2004 10:05 > To: 'David Rogers' > Cc: 'lilypond-user@gnu.org' > Subject: RE: Band parts - a newbie's view >=20 >=20 > Hi, > Yup, I agree with all of that. >=20 > My statement regarding increase in tempo is from experience=20 > of it's use rather than any implied meaning. > In brass band parts we often see it used as a mechanism to=20 > double pace from common time (and feel of pace, with it being=20 > 2 beats per bar), but it is usually accompanied by a=20 > qualifying tempo indication. >=20 > But you are quite correct, there is no explicit difference in pace. >=20 > Regards, > Ralph >=20 > -------------------------------------- > Ralph.Little@tribaldata.co.uk > www.tribaldata.co.uk > ...or see what I do in my spare time: > www.skelmanthorpeband.org > -------------------------------------- >=20 > "Man who shoot off mouth... expect to lose face."=20 >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: David Rogers [mailto:davidrogers@telus.net]=20 > > Sent: 28 July 2004 18:31 > > To: Ralph Little > > Subject: Re: Band parts - a newbie's view > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > On Jul 28, 2004, at 9:09 AM, Ralph Little wrote: > >=20 > > > Cut-common is often found in band parts and effectively=20 > doubles the > > > pace, at least that is my interpretation. > >=20 > > It all depends on the tempo markings, of course. It's quite=20 > > possible to=20 > > have a slow 2/2. The real difference is in the accents and=20 > the "feel"=20 > > of the music. 2/2 flows differently from 4/4 because there=20 > are fewer=20 > > beats (and therefore fewer accents) per bar. > >=20 > > As far as whether one uses numbers or c-shaped symbols, I=20 > think that=20 > > the c-shaped symbols are traditional in certain types of music, but=20 > > that the numbers seem to have become standard practice in=20 > > modern music.=20 > > It would make sense to me for Lilypond to have choices like=20 > > use-numbers=20 > > or use-symbols. (And what about the circle-with-a-line that=20 > Bach uses=20 > > for 16/8 in the gigue of the E major keyboard partita? Is that in=20 > > Lilypond somewhere, or is it too obscure to include such things?) > >=20 > > David > >=20 > >=20 >=20 --------- Tribal Data Solutions has moved, please visit our website for more = details http://www.tribaldata.co.uk.=20 This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and are sent on the = basis of our copyright, e-mail and security policy which can be = inspected by visiting http://www.tribaldata.co.uk/policies.asp. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and = delete this message. Thank you. ----------- From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 29 06:57:53 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bq8bh-0008Rb-FP for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 06:57:53 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bq8bg-0008RQ-4B for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 06:57:52 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bq8be-0008R3-7k for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 06:57:51 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bq8be-0008Qs-3I for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 06:57:50 -0400 Received: from [199.232.41.8] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1Bq8YJ-0001lN-Mf for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 06:54:24 -0400 Received: from [218.92.247.49] (helo=218.92.247.49) by mx20.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bq8MX-0006FG-8c for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 06:42:15 -0400 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:32:31 +0000 From: info To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:57:52 -0000 Áèçíåñ - ñïðàâî÷íèêè, áèçíåñ - ïðîãðàììû, áàçû äàííûõ íà http://progz.7p.org.uk From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 29 07:15:24 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bq8se-0003wF-Eo for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 07:15:24 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bq8sc-0003uz-9f for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 07:15:22 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bq8sb-0003u9-BJ for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 07:15:21 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bq8sb-0003u1-86 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 07:15:21 -0400 Received: from [213.51.128.197] (helo=smtpq2.home.nl) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bq8p2-0004Er-Gf for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 07:11:40 -0400 Received: from [213.51.128.136] (port=55476 helo=smtp5.home.nl) by smtpq2.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Bq8p0-0008U9-Jo; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:11:38 +0200 Received: from cc264379-a.groni1.gr.home.nl ([217.121.214.156]:1819 helo=cc264379-a.home.nl) by smtp5.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Bq8oz-0004BV-7m; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:11:37 +0200 Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20040729131006.03248910@mail> X-Sender: wolvendans@mail X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:10:44 +0200 To: erik.sandberg.9195@student.uu.se From: Thorkil Wolvendans Subject: Re: clef after bar In-Reply-To: <200407281319.07733.ersa9195@student.uu.se> References: <6.1.2.0.2.20040727221553.03245150@mail> <200407281319.07733.ersa9195@student.uu.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Neem contact op met support@home.nl voor meer informatie X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean Cc: Lilypond Mailinglist X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:15:22 -0000 Woohoo! The problem's solved, thanks Erik! Thorkil At 13:19 28-7-04, you wrote: >On Tuesday 27 July 2004 22.28, Thorkil Wolvendans wrote: > > Hi everyone! > > > > At a certain point in a composition, I try to make a new clef appear after > > the barline instead of before, without a positive result. > > Is it possible in Lily to achieve this? I searched the docs, but couldn't > > find an answer. > >The easiest way is probably to cheat, by inserting a very short skip before >the clef. Instead of > >c4 c c c | \clef "alto" c c c c | >do >c4 c c c | \skip 16 \clef "alto" c4*3/4 c4 c c | > >Erik From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 29 07:27:15 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bq946-0006Ha-Qs for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 07:27:14 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bq944-0006HG-LU for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 07:27:12 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bq943-0006Gg-UC for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 07:27:12 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bq943-0006GX-Pv for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 07:27:11 -0400 Received: from [130.237.43.24] (helo=iris.s3.kth.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bq90X-0005oC-SO for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 07:23:34 -0400 Received: from localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.md.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FEC561A98; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:23:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se ([130.237.43.24]) by localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id 32011-10; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:23:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F86961A9B; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:23:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [130.237.50.49] (drongo.s3.kth.se [130.237.50.49]) by iris.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D39261A98; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:23:31 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4108DE33.2020500@s3.kth.se> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:23:31 +0200 From: Mats Bengtsson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fr=E9d=E9ric_Bron?= Subject: Re: References: <49409.81.255.28.21.1090393888.squirrel@jose.freesurf.fr> In-Reply-To: <49409.81.255.28.21.1090393888.squirrel@jose.freesurf.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:27:12 -0000 Please always specify a relevant subject of your emails. Also, always tell what LilyPond version you use, if you want a relevant answer. You could start the second line with a \skip (for example \skip 1*8 to skip 8 full measures in 4/4). However, this only works if you specify the durations manually of each syllable (i.e. don't use \lyricsto for that line). Example: \score{ << \context Voice =3D music \notes { c d e f | g4. f8 e4 d |} \lyricsto music \lyrics \new Lyrics { do re mi fa sol fa mi re } \lyrics \new Lyrics { \skip 1 sol4. fa8 mi4 re } >> } /Mats Fr=E9d=E9ric Bron wrote: > Hi! > Many thanks for this wonderfull piece of software. > I am trying to write a song book and in such case in the refrain, there= is > only one line of lyrics and in the couplets there are several. I could = do > this only by split the score in two, one for the refrain and one for th= e > couplets but if the refrain is so small that the couplet should start o= n the > same line, it is not possible. Could you help? > Thanks in advance, > Fr=E9d=E9ric >=20 > ----------------------------------------------------------- > Fr=E9d=E9ric Bron (frederic.bron@m4x.org) > Villa des Quatre Chemins, Centre Hospitalier, BP 208 > 38506 VOIRON CEDEX > t=E9l. : (33) 4 76 67 17 27 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 =09 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: mats.bengtsson@s3.kth.se WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 29 07:53:24 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bq9TQ-00029I-I4 for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 07:53:24 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bq9TO-000297-CW for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 07:53:22 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bq9TN-00028g-7s for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 07:53:21 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bq9TN-00028d-0K for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 07:53:21 -0400 Received: from [130.237.43.24] (helo=iris.s3.kth.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bq9Pp-0001Gf-QF for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 07:49:42 -0400 Received: from localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.md.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 165ED61A98; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:49:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se ([130.237.43.24]) by localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id 32582-08; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:49:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4C8161A9B; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:49:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [130.237.50.49] (drongo.s3.kth.se [130.237.50.49]) by iris.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6006861A98; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:49:38 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4108E453.4030901@s3.kth.se> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:49:39 +0200 From: Mats Bengtsson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rob V Subject: Re: Alignment of stanza numbers using vocalName References: <20040720210912.E039D1F4FA1@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> In-Reply-To: <20040720210912.E039D1F4FA1@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:53:22 -0000 By default, the VocalName object is typeset just before the left end of the score, just as the InstrumentName object. The order in which the objects are typeset is determined by the break-align-orders property of the BreakAlignment object, wo one solution is to change that setting, so the stanza numbers are typeset horizontally between the time signature and the first note, for example. You can do this by removing all your settings of VocalName properties and adding the following lines at the end of your score: \paper{ \context{ \ScoreContext \override BreakAlignment #'break-align-orders = ##(; end-of-line: (instrument-name left-edge ambitus breathing-sign clef staff-bar key-signature time-signature custos) ; unbroken (instrument-name left-edge ambitus breathing-sign clef staff-bar key-signature staff time-signature custos) ; begin of line (left-edge ambitus breathing-sign clef key-signature staff-bar time-signature instrument-name custos) ) } } Currently, both instrument names and stanza numbers are placed horizontally at the same place, since both are referred to as instrument-name in the list above. To change that, so you can have both stanza numbers placed as you wish and ordinary instrument names for each stave, you could introduce a separate break-align-symbol for stanza numbers: \paper{ \context{ \ScoreContext \override VocalName #'break-align-symbol = #'vocal-name \override BreakAlignment #'break-align-orders = ##(; end-of-line: (instrument-name left-edge ambitus breathing-sign clef staff-bar key-signature time-signature custos) ; unbroken (instrument-name left-edge ambitus breathing-sign clef staff-bar key-signature staff time-signature custos) ; begin of line (instrument-name left-edge ambitus breathing-sign clef key-signature staff-bar time-signature vocal-name custos) ) } } In both these solutions, you will get a few warnings about "No spacing entry from ... ", but these can be ignored. /Mats Rob V wrote: > I've recently upgraded to Lilypond 2.2.2 on Cygwin. I would like to align my stanza numbers closer to the lyrics. I had it working correctly in older versions using "stanza" and later "instrumentname." I'm trying to get it to work now using "vocalName." I've included an example of what I was experimenting with below. > > \version "2.2.0" > > \score { > << \notes \relative c'' \context Voice = duet { \time 3/4 > g2 e4 \break a2 f4 g2. } > > > \lyrics << \lyricsto "duet" \new Lyrics { > \override VocalName #'self-alignment-Y = #-1 > % \override VocalName #'break-align-symbol = #'Time_signature > \override VocalName #'break-align-symbol = #'begin-of-note > \set vocalName = "1." > \set vocNam = "1." > Hi, my name is bert. } > \lyricsto "duet" \new Lyrics { > \override VocalName #'self-alignment-Y = #-1 > % \override VocalName #'break-align-symbol = #'Time_signature > % \override VocalName #'break-align-symbol = #'begin-of-note > \set vocalName = "2." > \set vocNam = "2." > Ooooo, ch\'e -- ri, je t'aime. } > >> >> > } > > > > When I use "\override vocalName" I get an error that vocalName is an unknown grob. When I use a capital V in VocalName, I can get the stanza number inside the staff group. When I use nothing at all, the stanza number appears before the staff group. How can I fix my problem and get my stanza numbers to align close to the lyrics, like I had before? > > Thanks for any help, > Rob -- ============================================= Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: mats.bengtsson@s3.kth.se WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe ============================================= From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 29 08:06:01 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bq9fd-00062u-Ii for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 08:06:01 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bq9fb-00062m-QT for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 08:05:59 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bq9fa-00062W-8i for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 08:05:59 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bq9fa-00062M-5t for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 08:05:58 -0400 Received: from [130.237.43.24] (helo=iris.s3.kth.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bq9bp-0003Ov-LM for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 08:02:05 -0400 Received: from localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.md.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46BF961A93; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 14:02:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se ([130.237.43.24]) by localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id 00399-06; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 14:02:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4323F61A98; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 14:02:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [130.237.50.49] (drongo.s3.kth.se [130.237.50.49]) by iris.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3614961A93; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 14:02:02 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4108E73A.4030502@s3.kth.se> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 14:02:02 +0200 From: Mats Bengtsson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nicholas Haggin Subject: Re: Vaticana context spacing and other things References: <40FC385F.305@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <40FC385F.305@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:06:00 -0000 Nicholas Haggin wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Greetings, all. > > I have two questions, one of which is probably only marginally related > to Lilypond, so I'll ask it first. > I'm putting together a hymnal to be typeset by lilypond-book. As those > of you who work in church music know, hymnals often have metrical > indices of the melodies as well as indices by title, composer, author, > etc. Does anyone know of a TeX/LaTeX macro package for assisting in > assembling said indices, or would I have to write my own? To get a single index, just use the \index and \makeindex LaTeX commands together with the makeindex program (see any introduction to LaTeX). To get multiple indices in the same document, there seems to be a package called multind, that you can use, see http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=multind /Mats From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 29 08:28:58 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BqA1p-0003Xo-HC for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 08:28:57 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqA1m-0003Wq-Jq for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 08:28:54 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqA1l-0003WR-G5 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 08:28:53 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BqA1l-0003W8-BW for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 08:28:53 -0400 Received: from [130.237.43.24] (helo=iris.s3.kth.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bq9xf-0007FP-TI for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 08:24:40 -0400 Received: from localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.md.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6525F61A93; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 14:24:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se ([130.237.43.24]) by localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id 01208-05; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 14:24:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14F6D61A98; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 14:24:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [130.237.50.49] (drongo.s3.kth.se [130.237.50.49]) by iris.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0373B61A93; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 14:24:37 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4108EC85.2000001@s3.kth.se> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 14:24:37 +0200 From: Mats Bengtsson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Raphael Slinckx Subject: Re: Notes spacing References: <40FC0F7C.6000108@wol.be> In-Reply-To: <40FC0F7C.6000108@wol.be> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:28:55 -0000 The note spacing is a complicated matter and is affected by several parameters. The spacing-increment property only changes the proportion between spacing for longer notes relative to the spacing for shorter notes. What you noticed is probably just that your score happens to have more long notes in the first 10 measures than in the rest. There seems to be some misprints in the current documentation, (I have sent a bug report) but you probably want to set the shortest-duration-space property instead. Note also, that these parameters determine the default spacing which may get compressed or widened to fill each score line after program has determined the line breaks. Mats Raphael Slinckx wrote: > Hi ! > > I have a problem with notes horizontal spacing, I want the score to be > less cluttered, so here is my \paper block > > \paper { > \context { > \ScoreContext > \override SpacingSpanner #'spacing-increment = #5.0 > } > #(set-paper-size "a4") > } > > As written in the docs, it works but only for the beginning of the song, > then after 10 measures (and maybe a page break), the notes are cluttered > again ! > > Is there something that break the spacing command ? Or does it applies > only to the first page ? Can other "tweaks" affect this setting ? > > Many thanks ! > Raf > > > _______________________________________________ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- ============================================= Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: mats.bengtsson@s3.kth.se WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe ============================================= From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 29 09:26:24 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BqAvQ-0007Pn-3e for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 09:26:24 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqAvN-0007OW-Jq for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 09:26:22 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqAvM-0007OC-5q for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 09:26:20 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BqAvM-0007O9-2G for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 09:26:20 -0400 Received: from [130.237.43.24] (helo=iris.s3.kth.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BqArw-00007M-VE for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 09:22:49 -0400 Received: from localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.md.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A1D461A93; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:22:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se ([130.237.43.24]) by localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id 03361-01; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:22:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3234E61A98; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:22:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [130.237.50.49] (drongo.s3.kth.se [130.237.50.49]) by iris.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F79861A93; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:22:46 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4108FA26.6060006@s3.kth.se> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:22:46 +0200 From: Mats Bengtsson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Rodolfo W.Zitellini" Subject: Re: systems overlapping & lyrics References: <70FAEB35-D707-11D8-BD36-003065643A74@xhero.org> <200407171355.41180.ersa9195@student.uu.se> <60B23524-D80B-11D8-BD36-003065643A74@xhero.org> In-Reply-To: <60B23524-D80B-11D8-BD36-003065643A74@xhero.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:26:22 -0000 Rodolfo W.Zitellini wrote: > OK, I downgraded to 2.2 and everything works great! > Thanks! > BTW I now have some attaching lyrics to the music. > I define all my music and lyrics using voicex = \notes {} and lyricx = > \lyrics {} > in an separate file for every part. Than I recall all parts in a > top-level file > with the \score context. I browsed the manual to find information on > lyrics, and it says to use > \lyricsto. But \lyricsto wants I voice specified, so I also create a > \context voice for the staff. > It looks like this: > \context Voice = canto { \staffH } > \context Lyrics = canto { s1 } This line shouldn't be necessary, you have probably seen it remaining in some example file originally written for earlier versions of LilyPond that didn't have the \lyricsto command, but another more clumsy way to connect lyrics to specific voices. > > \context Lyrics = canto \lyricsto sopranos \cantoI Try: \lyricsto sopranos \context Lyrics = canto \cantoI instead /Mats From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 29 09:30:20 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BqAzE-00007F-B3 for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 09:30:20 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqAzC-0008WT-3a for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 09:30:18 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqAzB-0008Vm-0s for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 09:30:17 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BqAzA-0008VF-V0 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 09:30:16 -0400 Received: from [130.237.43.24] (helo=iris.s3.kth.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BqAvE-0000iE-B6 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 09:26:12 -0400 Received: from localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.md.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6B9661A93; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:26:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se ([130.237.43.24]) by localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id 03467-03; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:26:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9CFF61A98; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:26:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [130.237.50.49] (drongo.s3.kth.se [130.237.50.49]) by iris.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BE8C61A93; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:26:09 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4108FAF2.8010706@s3.kth.se> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:26:10 +0200 From: Mats Bengtsson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Herman Subject: Re: Lilypond Problem References: <40F6EBCD@webmail.nku.edu> In-Reply-To: <40F6EBCD@webmail.nku.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:30:18 -0000 Search the web pages and mailing lists for cygwin www.cygwin.com (the Windows version of LilyPond is part of the cygwin system). /Mats Jim Herman wrote: > I am attempting to download and install Lilypond from the internet. Every > time I attempt to download it, I get to about 1% of the total and then I get a > message that says "Download incomplete. Try Again?" If I try again, I get a > message saying that it cannot access the server. What should I do? > > Thanks, > > - Jim > > If a composer could say what he had to say in words he would not bother trying to say it in music. ~Gustav Mahler > > Music is the universal language of mankind. ~Henry Wadsworth Longfellow > > The joy of music should never be interrupted by a commercial. ~Leonard Bernstein > > After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music. ~Aldous Huxley > > > > _______________________________________________ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- ============================================= Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: mats.bengtsson@s3.kth.se WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe ============================================= From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 29 09:43:55 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BqBCN-00035J-0L for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 09:43:55 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqBCJ-00034a-5H for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 09:43:51 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqBCI-00034O-Lh for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 09:43:50 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BqBCI-00034L-JA for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 09:43:50 -0400 Received: from [130.237.43.24] (helo=iris.s3.kth.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BqB95-000329-Ab for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 09:40:31 -0400 Received: from localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.md.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id C91BC61A93; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:40:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se ([130.237.43.24]) by localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id 03872-01; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:40:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B82061A98; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:40:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [130.237.50.49] (drongo.s3.kth.se [130.237.50.49]) by iris.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D65D61A93; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:40:28 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4108FE4D.4030502@s3.kth.se> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:40:29 +0200 From: Mats Bengtsson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Will Oram Subject: Re: No Trill Line References: <0FA9E924-D9E5-11D8-A0D8-00039348F482@foxchange.com> In-Reply-To: <0FA9E924-D9E5-11D8-A0D8-00039348F482@foxchange.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:43:51 -0000 Will Oram wrote: > When I did this, I got a long note with a trill line spanner over it, as > desired: > > \override TextSpanner #'style = #'trill > \override TextSpanner #'edge-height = #'(0 . 0) > \override TextSpanner #'edge-text > = #(cons (make-musicglyph-markup "scripts-trill") "") > > csharp2.~\>\startTextSpan > csharp!\fermata \bar "" \grace { b16[(\!\stopTextSpan csharp]) } > \bar "|" > d8 r r4 r > > When I did this, I just got a dotted line spanner instead of a trill. > > \override TextSpanner #'style = #'trill > \override TextSpanner #'edge-height = #'(0 . 0) > \override TextSpanner #'edge-text > = #(cons (make-musicglyph-markup "scripts-trill") "") > > << { d2.\trill~\startTextSpan } \\ { R1*3/4 } >> > << { d2.~ } \\ { R1*3/4 } >> > << { d2.~ } \\ { R1*3/4 } >> > << { d2.~ } \\ { R1*3/4 } >> > << { d8[(\stopTextSpan csharp) e-.] e[( d) b-.] } \\ { R1*3/4 } >> > > What's the diff here? Something to do with Staff vs. Voice? The difference is the new contexts. The \startTextSpan and \stopTextSpan have to be in the same Voice context. When you do << { ...} \\ {...} >>, you create two new Voice contexts (called "1" and "2" if I recall correctly), but after the >>, both these contexts are destroyed again since they don't contain any more music. Then it doesn't matter that a new context called "1" is created in the next measure, LilyPond will still treat it as a separate context. So, one solution is to do << {d2.\trill~\startTextSpan d2.~ d2.~ d2.~ d8[(\stopTextSpan csharp) e-.] e[( d) b-.] } \\ { R2.*5} >> Another solution is indicated in http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2004-07/msg00153.html which actually describes exactly the same underlying problem even though this may not be obvious at first. /Mats > > Will Oram // Genius @ Large // AIM spamguy21 > spamguy (at) foxchange (dot) com // wro1 (at) cwru (dot) edu > > > > _______________________________________________ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- ============================================= Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: mats.bengtsson@s3.kth.se WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe ============================================= From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 29 09:48:35 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BqBGt-00048f-LC for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 09:48:35 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqBGp-00048Z-Ot for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 09:48:31 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqBGo-00047z-Fg for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 09:48:30 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BqBGo-00047Q-0S for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 09:48:30 -0400 Received: from [130.237.43.24] (helo=iris.s3.kth.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BqBD8-0003hI-Ah for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 09:44:42 -0400 Received: from localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.md.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD62961A93; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:44:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se ([130.237.43.24]) by localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id 03948-09; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:44:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 989E461A98; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:44:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [130.237.50.49] (drongo.s3.kth.se [130.237.50.49]) by iris.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8990961A93; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:44:39 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4108FF48.9000605@s3.kth.se> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:44:40 +0200 From: Mats Bengtsson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roland Goretzki Subject: Re: Handling of Ties in chords individually? References: <20040716001123.GB30685@neptun.roland-goretzki.de> In-Reply-To: <20040716001123.GB30685@neptun.roland-goretzki.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Lilypond mailing list X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:48:32 -0000 Could it be that http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2004-07/msg00150.html answers your question? /Mats Roland Goretzki wrote: > Hi at all. > > I'm still using lilypond 2.2.0, and I wonder, wether it is possible to > determine at tied chords explicitely, which direction every tie shall > have. > > To demonstrate that this is necessary, here a little piece of code: > > \include "deutsch.ly" > \score { > \context Staff \notes\relative c'' { > \key c \major > g4 g' cis, b g' g, g' > ~ > > g' cis, b g1 > } > } > > The second tie (from bottom to top) between 'b' and 'b' would look much > better, if its direction would be down. The other ties should behold > their directions. > > With \tieDown, \tieUp or \tieBoth I can't get a good result. > > Any ideas? > Or perhaps a solution to this is planned for a later lilypond version? > > Thanks and Best Regards Roland > > > _______________________________________________ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- ============================================= Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: mats.bengtsson@s3.kth.se WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe ============================================= From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 29 10:10:59 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BqBcZ-0000bV-8p for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:10:59 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqBcX-0000bP-LA for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:10:57 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqBcW-0000b5-1Q for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:10:57 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BqBcV-0000av-V4 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:10:55 -0400 Received: from [130.237.43.24] (helo=iris.s3.kth.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BqBYj-0007Xn-DS for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:07:01 -0400 Received: from localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.md.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id D456261A98; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 16:06:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se ([130.237.43.24]) by localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id 04777-06; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 16:06:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id A762361A9B; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 16:06:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [130.237.50.49] (drongo.s3.kth.se [130.237.50.49]) by iris.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9681061A98; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 16:06:58 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <41090483.9040508@s3.kth.se> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 16:06:59 +0200 From: Mats Bengtsson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: img43@concentric.net Subject: Re: Lilypond - Unsuccessful install on Windows 2K References: <299550-22004731435718851@M2W042.mail2web.com> In-Reply-To: <299550-22004731435718851@M2W042.mail2web.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 14:10:57 -0000 Unfortunately, attachments are filtered out from emails on this list due to the large number of virus emails. Please try again to send your question to the mailing list and include the log file in the text of the email. /Mats img43@concentric.net wrote: > Installed as directed with no problems. When Adobe Reader 6.0 trys to open > the file, it reports it can't located the file. > > Test.log is attached. > > Sincerly, > > M. C. Kane > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://mail2web.com/ . > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- ============================================= Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: mats.bengtsson@s3.kth.se WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe ============================================= From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 29 10:49:26 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BqCDm-0000ra-Kb for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:49:26 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqCDl-0000q7-7u for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:49:25 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqCDk-0000pR-Cc for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:49:24 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BqCDk-0000p5-93 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:49:24 -0400 Received: from [130.237.43.24] (helo=iris.s3.kth.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BqCAH-0005CA-Vm for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:45:50 -0400 Received: from localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.md.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6778F61A93; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 16:45:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se ([130.237.43.24]) by localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id 05885-08; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 16:45:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D47061A98; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 16:45:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [130.237.50.49] (drongo.s3.kth.se [130.237.50.49]) by iris.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D7B061A93; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 16:45:47 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <41090D9C.6090001@s3.kth.se> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 16:45:48 +0200 From: Mats Bengtsson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aaron Dalton Subject: Re: Custom Noteheads References: <200407101150.20264.aaron@daltons.ca> In-Reply-To: <200407101150.20264.aaron@daltons.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 14:49:25 -0000 I'm afraid you have to dig into the source code yourself. Such a project would involve several steps: designing the font symbols for the noteheads or finding an existing font that contains the symbols, writing a replacement or complement to Note_head::print (in C++ or Scheme) and the corresponding output functions in scm/output-*.scm, among others. /Mats Aaron Dalton wrote: > I've done a little searching in the archives but I can't seem to find any > specific information. I am wanting to use Lilypond in a research project I'm > doing. I am doing a timepoint analysis of some pieces and the developer of > said system uses a series of custom noteheads. I cannot seem to find any > place that goes into the specifics of creating one's own notehead engraver > and how to integrate it into a working Lilypond installation. > > Has anybody out there done this sort of thing? Would you be willing to share > some wisdom on how it is done? Thank you so much for your time. > -- ============================================= Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: mats.bengtsson@s3.kth.se WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe ============================================= From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 29 11:03:08 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BqCR2-00044J-20 for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:03:08 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqCQz-000445-Tg for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:03:06 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqCQy-00043D-Ke for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:03:05 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BqCQy-00042z-H5 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:03:04 -0400 Received: from [130.237.43.24] (helo=iris.s3.kth.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BqCNV-0007SD-I2 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:59:29 -0400 Received: from localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.md.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1BA361A93; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 16:59:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se ([130.237.43.24]) by localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id 06498-02; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 16:59:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEBDA61A9B; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 16:59:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [130.237.50.49] (drongo.s3.kth.se [130.237.50.49]) by iris.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9806961A98; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 16:59:26 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <410910CF.5080904@s3.kth.se> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 16:59:27 +0200 From: Mats Bengtsson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Clements Subject: Re: Chords below the staff? References: <40EEF3AC.9050803@earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <40EEF3AC.9050803@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "lilypond-user@gnu.org" X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:03:06 -0000 Brian Clements wrote: > Ok I managed to fix all but one of the problems from my previous post. > The only remaining problem is that in my solo section, the chords apear > below the staff it applies to. If this is normal behavior, how do I > manually tell them to be above the staff? The different parts of the score are typeset vertically in the order they are first introduced in the .ly file. Since you start your \context ChordNames in the middle of the score, it therefore appear below the \context Staff. The trick to move the chords up is to start the \context Chordnames from the beginning of the score, maybe something like: \score { << \context ChordNames \chords { \skip 1*49 \repeat volta 2 { f1:m7 f:m7 g:m g:m f:m7 f2.:m7 d4:dim } \alternative { { g1:m7 g:m7 } { g:m7 g2:m7 a:7}}} \notes { \notes { \key f \major \set Score.markFormatter = #format-mark-numbers \set Score.markFormatter = #(lambda (mark context) (make-bold-markup (make-box-markup (number->string mark)))) \relative c' { \tempo 4=120 \repeat "percent" 3 { f8 f g f16 af-> ~ af a f8 bf-> a } ... > Also I think if I do that, I > will have to move up the alternate ending brackets. OR... perhaps the > reason they are below is because the hieght of the brackets took > priority over the chords being there, meaning they might have clashed or > something. But either way, I will have to manually move both of them. So > does anyone know the syntax (and where to place it, I'm a newbie) for > moving the alternate ending brackets and the chord names? There have recently been some emails on the mailing list on how to move chords above or below the alternative endings, see the archives. /Mats From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 29 12:15:30 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BqDZ3-0004de-W7 for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:15:30 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqDZ2-0004dF-Hh for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:15:28 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqDYz-0004bj-A3 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:15:27 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BqDYz-0004bg-6f for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:15:25 -0400 Received: from [216.138.223.229] (helo=hornet.wiznet.ca) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BqDVk-0002RL-Cj for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:12:04 -0400 Received: from nomad.lets.net (H74.C220.tor.velocet.net [216.138.220.74]) by hornet.wiznet.ca (Postfix) with SMTP id E9A9531F62E for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:12:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 17295 invoked by uid 1008); 29 Jul 2004 16:58:10 -0000 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:58:10 -0400 From: Steve Shorter To: Han-Wen Nienhuys Subject: Re: Stem beamed-lengths ? Message-ID: <20040729165810.GA17284@nomad.lets.net> References: <20040724162934.GA5086@nomad.lets.net> <16642.51689.308224.239153@localhost.localdomain> <20040725143001.GA7251@nomad.lets.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040725143001.GA7251@nomad.lets.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 16:15:29 -0000 On Sun, Jul 25, 2004 at 10:30:01AM -0400, Steve Shorter wrote: > On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 10:43:21PM +0200, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > > > > steve@nomad.tor.lets.net writes: > > > Howdy! > > > > > > I have some collisions between a beame inner voice and an outer voice > > > and I need to shorten the stems of notes in the beam. I tried stuff like > > > > > > \override Stem #'beamed-lengths = #'(1.0 1.0 1.0) > > > > > > but it doesn't see to do anything. > > > > > > interesting! Can you post a short example of your problem, with the > > tweak you tried? So,. is this sitution (below) reproducable? Is it a bug? Should I file a bug report? Or, am I missing something and it can be made to work? thanx - steve > > There is a collision in the secound bar between the secound and > third voices. Changing the values in > > \override Stem #'beamed-lengths = #'(1.0 1.0 1.0) > > has no effect. version 2.2.2 on debian. > > > \header { > } > > one = \context Voice=one \notes \relative c'' { > \voiceOne > \key d\major > \stemUp > e8 s | > 8.. 32 8 | > d8 d'4 cis16 b | > } > > two = \context Voice=two \notes \relative c'' { > \voiceTwo > \stemDown > s2 | > \override Stem #'beamed-lengths = #'(1.0 1.0 1.0) > a8.. g32 fis16 a g\rest g | > } > > three = \context Voice=three \notes \relative c'' { > \voiceThree > \stemDown > cis8 cis8\rest a a | > r16 d,,[ fis a] d8 ais | > 8 g8\rest 4 | > } > > \score { > \notes { \time 2/4 \clef treble > \context Staff << > \one > \two > \three > >> > } > } > > > > _______________________________________________ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 29 15:22:28 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BqGTz-0006zf-PG for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:22:27 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqGTx-0006zK-Fv for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:22:25 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqGTu-0006yP-Un for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:22:24 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BqGTu-0006yM-QY for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:22:22 -0400 Received: from [194.109.24.31] (helo=smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BqGQ8-0005XE-25 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:18:28 -0400 Received: from byrd.xs4all.nl.byrd.xs4all.nl (byrd.xs4all.nl [213.84.26.127]) by smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6TJIQLw077382; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 21:18:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from hanwen@xs4all.nl) From: Han-Wen Nienhuys MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16649.19844.88868.964631@byrd.xs4all.nl> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 21:18:28 +0200 To: Steve Shorter Subject: Re: Stem beamed-lengths ? In-Reply-To: <20040725143001.GA7251@nomad.lets.net> References: <20040724162934.GA5086@nomad.lets.net> <16642.51689.308224.239153@localhost.localdomain> <20040725143001.GA7251@nomad.lets.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.14 under Emacs 21.3.1 X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: hanwen@xs4all.nl List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 19:22:25 -0000 steve@nomad.tor.lets.net writes: > On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 10:43:21PM +0200, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > > > > steve@nomad.tor.lets.net writes: > > > Howdy! > > > > > > I have some collisions between a beame inner voice and an outer voice > > > and I need to shorten the stems of notes in the beam. I tried stuff like > > > > > > \override Stem #'beamed-lengths = #'(1.0 1.0 1.0) > > > > > > but it doesn't see to do anything. > > > > > > interesting! Can you post a short example of your problem, with the > > tweak you tried? > > There is a collision in the secound bar between the secound and > third voices. Changing the values in > > \override Stem #'beamed-lengths = #'(1.0 1.0 1.0) > > has no effect. version 2.2.2 on debian. The handling of stem lengths is rather arcane- I'll see if I can improve anything. In the meantime, here is a tweak \override Stem #'beamed-lengths = #'(1.0 1.0 1.0) \override Stem #'beamed-minimum-free-lengths = #'(0.0 ) \override Stem #'beamed-extreme-minimum-free-lengths = #'(0.0 ) -- Han-Wen Nienhuys | hanwen@xs4all.nl | http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 29 15:40:28 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BqGlQ-0002b3-8p for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:40:28 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqGlO-0002at-PJ for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:40:26 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqGlO-0002ad-0M for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:40:26 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BqGlN-0002aT-Tr for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:40:25 -0400 Received: from [61.141.239.46] (helo=21cn.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BqGhq-0008GN-GB for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:36:47 -0400 From: "dhgj" Subject: =?GB2312?B?08W73bT6v6q3osax?= To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain;charset="GB2312" Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 03:36:55 +0800 X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Foxmail 4.1 [cn] Message-Id: X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dkfgjg@21cn.com List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 19:40:27 -0000 ¹ó¹«Ë¾¸ºÔðÈË(¾­Àí/²ÆÎñ)ÄúºÃ£º ÎÒ¹«Ë¾ÊÇÉîÛÚÊÐÈçÒâ¹ã¸æÓÐÏÞ¹«Ë¾£¬ÎÒ¹«Ë¾ÊµÁ¦ÐÛºñ£¬ÓÐ×ÅÁ¼ºÃµÄÉç»á¹Øϵ¡£ ÒòÎÒ¹«Ë¾ÊǶ¨¶îË°¶î£¬Ã¿ÔÂÓÐÒ»²¿·ÖÆÕͨ¹ã¸æ·¢Æ±ºÍÆäËû·þÎñ·¢Æ±£¨µØË°£©£¨2%£© ÓŻݴú¿ªÓëºÏ×÷,»¹¿ÉÒÔ¸ù¾Ý¹ó¹«Ë¾ÒªÇó´ú¿ªµÄÊýÁ¿¶î¶ÈÀ´ÉÌÌÖ´ú¿ªÓŻݵĵãÊý, ±¾¹«Ë¾Ö£ÖسÐŵÒÔÉÏËùÓþø¶ÔÊÇÕæƱ£¬ÍêÈ«¸º·¨ÂÉÔðÈΣ¬Ï£ÍûÓë¹ó˾ºÏ×÷¡£ Èç¹ó¹«Ë¾ÔÚ·¢Æ±µÄÕæα·½ÃæÓÐÈκÎÒÉÂÇ»òµ£ÐÄ¿ÉÉÏÍø²éÖ¤»òÎÒ¹«Ë¾Ö±½ÓÓë¹ó¹« ˾ȥ˰Îñ¾ÖµÖ¿ÛºË¶Ô¡£ ±Ë´ËºÏ×÷Ò»´Î£¬±Ø³ÉÉ̳¡»ï°é¡£ ÏêÇéÇëµç: 13510759152 Áª ϵ ÈË: ÀîÏÈÉú ˳ףÉÌì÷£¡ ÉîÛÚÊÐÈçÒâ¹ã¸æÓÐÏÞ¹«Ë¾ From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 29 19:40:54 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BqKW6-0007ZG-H5 for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 19:40:54 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BprOl-0002kM-Sp for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 12:35:23 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BprOh-0002kA-55 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 12:35:23 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BprOh-0002k7-1e for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 12:35:19 -0400 Received: from [66.133.131.34] (helo=relay01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BprL4-0005mF-VL for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 12:31:35 -0400 Received: (qmail 22196 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2004 16:31:33 -0000 Received: from 209-210-232-189.nas1.oss.mi.frontiernet.net (HELO yourxb2x7j77gn) ([209.210.232.189]) (envelope-sender ) by relay01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (FrontierMTA 2.3.23) with SMTP for ; 28 Jul 2004 16:31:33 -0000 Message-ID: <005701c474c0$581376f0$bde8d2d1@yourxb2x7j77gn> From: "David" To: Subject: help Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 12:31:31 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 19:40:53 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 16:35:24 -0000 I have downloaded lilypond, but don't know how to install it, open it, = or use it. (whichever I'm supposed to do next after downloading) = Help!!!! From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 29 19:50:02 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BqKew-00010r-CR for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 19:50:02 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqKeu-00010l-5Y for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 19:50:00 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqKes-00010X-D0 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 19:49:59 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BqKes-00010U-Ak for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 19:49:58 -0400 Received: from [68.230.240.38] (helo=lakermmtao01.cox.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BqKbN-0004AN-NW for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 19:46:21 -0400 Received: from scylla.anicca ([68.110.234.148]) by lakermmtao01.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.03.02.01 201-2131-111-104-103-20040709) with ESMTP id <20040729234621.WHMD12235.lakermmtao01.cox.net@scylla.anicca> for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 19:46:21 -0400 From: David Raleigh Arnold Organization: openguitar.com To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Band parts - a newbie's view Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 19:46:19 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200407291946.20122.darnold4@cox.net> X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dra@openguitar.com List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 23:50:00 -0000 On Wednesday 28 July 2004 12:09 pm, Ralph Little wrote: > Hi, > Unless I'm mistaken, cut-common and common-time are actually > different things. > Cut-common is the same as 2/2 not 4/4, whereas common-time and 4/4 > are the same thing. > Cut-common is usually represented with a C with a slash through. > > Cut-common is often found in band parts and effectively doubles the > pace, at least that is my interpretation. It halves the count. Why go farther than that? > Any other opinions? Not on the facts. But I agree that the numbers should be the default, and that "common" and "cut" should be required for the C forms. The appearance of scores with single measures of changing meter, as in "Here Comes the Sun", is a very cogent argument to me. I asked for this many years ago. I wish I had thought of that in terms of changing meter. You just don't see "C" except at the beginning of lines. daveA -- Paying more at the gas pump? Bush's Oil Sheikh Buddies, who support Al Qaeda, Palestinian terrorists, & hate-U.S. school systems everywhere, need more of your money now to arm and pay Iraqis to kill Americans. D. Raleigh Arnold dra@ (http://www.) openguitar.com darnold4@cox.net From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 29 20:31:03 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BqLId-0000Zk-Hu for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 20:31:03 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqLIc-0000ZW-7S for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 20:31:02 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqLIZ-0000ZD-DX for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 20:31:01 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BqLIZ-0000Z3-9k for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 20:30:59 -0400 Received: from [24.71.223.10] (helo=pd5mo3so.prod.shaw.ca) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BqLF6-0000pi-GV for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 20:27:24 -0400 Received: from pd4mr2so.prod.shaw.ca (pd4mr2so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.213]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0I1N0068V25DXK@l-daemon> for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 18:17:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml6so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.150]) by pd4mr2so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0I1N003HP25DMQ40@pd4mr2so.prod.shaw.ca> for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 18:17:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.57] (S0106006067227a4a.vc.shawcable.net [24.87.233.42]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0I1N0030524BWD@l-daemon> for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 18:17:37 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 17:17:36 -0700 From: Graham Percival Subject: Re: help In-reply-to: <005701c474c0$581376f0$bde8d2d1@yourxb2x7j77gn> To: David Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <005701c474c0$581376f0$bde8d2d1@yourxb2x7j77gn> Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 00:31:02 -0000 On 28-Jul-04, at 9:31 AM, David wrote: > I have downloaded lilypond, but don't know how to install it, open it, > or use it. (whichever I'm supposed to do next after downloading) > Help!!!! What operating system are you using? And have you read the instructions on the website? Lilypond is not the kind of program you can use without reading the documentation. Cheers, - Graham From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 29 23:33:05 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BqO8n-0001Sw-Lx for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 23:33:05 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqO8l-0001Rr-Ni for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 23:33:03 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqO8j-0001Qk-0d for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 23:33:03 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BqO8i-0001QE-2w for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 23:33:00 -0400 Received: from [209.225.28.219] (helo=mxsf19.cluster1.charter.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BqO50-0007FV-5Y for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 23:29:11 -0400 Received: from mxip18.cluster1.charter.net (mxip18a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.148]) by mxsf19.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6U3T9im010047 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 23:29:09 -0400 Received: from 24-159-235-47.jvl.wi.charter.com (HELO 192.168.0.2) (24.159.235.47) by mxip18.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 29 Jul 2004 23:29:09 -0400 X-Ironport-AV: i="3.83,97,1089000000"; d="scan'208"; a="148653287:sNHT12559468" From: Lyle Raymond To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Update on my question re. lilypond-book. Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 22:37:14 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200407292237.16102.sly_raymond@charter.net> X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 03:33:03 -0000 Yesterday I posted a question regarding a problem I was having with lilypond-book (see original text below). I since discovered that the problem lies in using pdflatex to render the output. Is there a fix? original message follows \--------------------------v I'm working on a theory book for guitarists. In the book, fretboard diagrams are created by first importing a {picture} file, titled "open_fretboard.tex," then superimposing another picture containing x's, o's and whatnot on top of it. Thus, the structure of a fretboard diagram in chapter one is as follows: book.tex ^---contains--->"\input{chapter1.tex}" chapter1.tex ^---contains--->"\input{open_fretboard}.tex", then "\begin{picture}" This works until I want to use lilypond's chord symbols. I tried: "\begin{lilypond} \end{lilypond}" ...inside the {picture} in chapter1.tex, but "$lilypond-book book.tex" results in an environment undefined error. Where should the lilypond code go, and upon what file do I run lilypond-book? Lyle ----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 1.0 GMU/O d+@ s: a C++ UL P+>++++ L++ E-(---) W++ N++ o--@ K- w+(--) !O !M V PS--(+) PE++ Y !PGP t+() !5 X+() R+++($) tv b++>+++ DI@ !D G e++>++++ h---@ r++ y? ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jul 30 03:58:43 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BqSHr-0007hE-BY for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 03:58:43 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqSHo-0007gR-Ke for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 03:58:40 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqSHl-0007fz-HN for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 03:58:40 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BqSHl-0007fX-7G for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 03:58:37 -0400 Received: from [130.237.43.24] (helo=iris.s3.kth.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BqSDX-0008Ld-Ut for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 03:54:16 -0400 Received: from localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.md.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 169E661AA5; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 09:54:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se ([130.237.43.24]) by localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id 32112-08; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 09:54:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2C2F61AAA; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 09:54:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [130.237.50.49] (drongo.s3.kth.se [130.237.50.49]) by iris.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1FD061AA5; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 09:54:03 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4109FE9C.5010608@s3.kth.se> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 09:54:04 +0200 From: Mats Bengtsson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lyle Raymond Subject: Re: Update on my question re. lilypond-book. References: <200407292237.16102.sly_raymond@charter.net> In-Reply-To: <200407292237.16102.sly_raymond@charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 07:58:41 -0000 Lyle Raymond wrote: > Yesterday I posted a question regarding a problem I was having with > lilypond-book (see original text below). I since discovered that the problem > lies in using pdflatex to render the output. Is there a fix? Not at the moment, since the TeX code generated by LilyPond that is included for each \begin{lilypond}...\end{lilypond} contains embedded Postscript commands that pdflatex cannot handle. The recommended solution for the moment is latex+dvips+ps2pdf, see the manual of lilypond-book for details. /Mats From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jul 30 04:46:48 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BqT2O-00009m-GJ for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 04:46:48 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqT2L-00009g-RY for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 04:46:46 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqT2G-00009T-NE for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 04:46:45 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BqT2G-00009Q-E2 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 04:46:40 -0400 Received: from [194.109.24.27] (helo=smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BqSyY-0006Ml-GO for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 04:42:50 -0400 Received: from byrd.xs4all.nl.byrd.xs4all.nl (byrd.xs4all.nl [213.84.26.127]) by smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6U8gmWQ024196; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 10:42:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from hanwen@xs4all.nl) From: Han-Wen Nienhuys MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16650.2573.398124.771629@byrd.xs4all.nl> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 10:42:53 +0200 To: Graham Percival Subject: Re: help In-Reply-To: References: <005701c474c0$581376f0$bde8d2d1@yourxb2x7j77gn> X-Mailer: VM 7.14 under Emacs 21.3.1 X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: hanwen@xs4all.nl List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 08:46:46 -0000 gperlist@shaw.ca writes: > On 28-Jul-04, at 9:31 AM, David wrote: > > I have downloaded lilypond, but don't know how to install it, open it, > > or use it. (whichever I'm supposed to do next after downloading) > > Help!!!! > > What operating system are you using? And have you read the > instructions on the website? Lilypond is not the kind of program you > can use without reading the documentation. Although I understand this remark, I dislike it, because it points to a weakness of ours. How much work is installing lily4jedit? If we can get the new windows users to get acquainted with lily through its wizard for score creation, I suspect that we could get even more people hooked. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys | hanwen@xs4all.nl | http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jul 30 10:37:14 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BqYVW-00063V-Ce for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 10:37:14 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqYVV-00063Q-GC for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 10:37:13 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqYVU-00063E-N0 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 10:37:13 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BqYVU-00063B-KU for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 10:37:12 -0400 Received: from [213.31.226.166] (helo=relay01.par.totalfinaelf.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BqYRu-0003P7-W8 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 10:33:31 -0400 Received: from relay01.par.totalfinaelf.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.par.totalfinaelf.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 586381EF6FB for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 14:18:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from heu-fm-09.europe.hd.corp.local (unknown [10.22.149.3]) by SEA-PAR-SUN-SMTP-02B.totalfinaelf.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 347651EF61D for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 14:18:08 +0000 (GMT) Subject: blank noteheads To: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.12 February 13, 2003 Message-ID: From: Jean-marc LEGRAND Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 16:33:19 +0200 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on XFRPAR-HE05/GROUP/Corp(Release 6.5.1|January 21, 2004) at 30/07/2004 16:33:26 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jean-marc LEGRAND List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 14:37:13 -0000 Hi list ! I'm using lily 2.0, an i'm wondering how to produce white noteheads with baroque music (for example, white half-notes). It must be something like \property Voice.Notehead \ste #'style =#' blank but i can't make it working. Thanks and have a good WEnd ! From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jul 30 10:57:15 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BqYot-0002EU-BQ for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 10:57:15 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqYoq-0002Do-MF for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 10:57:12 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqYop-0002DU-Um for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 10:57:12 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BqYop-0002DR-Ro for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 10:57:11 -0400 Received: from [130.237.43.24] (helo=iris.s3.kth.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BqYlY-0006MD-C3 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 10:53:48 -0400 Received: from localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.md.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61F2061A9C; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 16:53:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se ([130.237.43.24]) by localhost (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id 09496-05; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 16:53:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from iris.s3.kth.se (radien.md.kth.se [130.237.57.166]) by localhost.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12B1661AA5; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 16:53:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [130.237.50.49] (drongo.s3.kth.se [130.237.50.49]) by iris.s3.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0367D61A9C; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 16:53:37 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <410A60F1.8040306@s3.kth.se> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 16:53:37 +0200 From: Mats Bengtsson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jean-marc LEGRAND Subject: Re: blank noteheads References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 14:57:12 -0000 As described in the manual, all available note head styles are listed in the example http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.0/input/regression/out-www/collated-files.html#note-head-style.ly /Mats Jean-marc LEGRAND wrote: > > > > Hi list ! > I'm using lily 2.0, an i'm wondering how to produce white noteheads with baroque music (for example, > white half-notes). > It must be something like \property Voice.Notehead \ste #'style =#' blank > but i can't make it working. > > Thanks and have a good WEnd ! > > > > _______________________________________________ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- ============================================= Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: mats.bengtsson@s3.kth.se WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe ============================================= From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jul 30 11:04:20 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BqYvk-0003xx-LS for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 11:04:20 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqYvj-0003xQ-9U for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 11:04:19 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqYvg-0003vR-7C for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 11:04:19 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BqYvg-0003vO-4z for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 11:04:16 -0400 Received: from [212.227.126.188] (helo=moutng.kundenserver.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BqYs9-0007Hh-Va for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 11:00:38 -0400 Received: from [212.227.126.161] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1BqYs9-00031Y-00 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 17:00:37 +0200 Received: from [218.174.42.137] (helo=orion.univie.ac.at) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (TLSv1:EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1BqYs8-0000Zu-00 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 17:00:36 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.univie.ac.at (8.11.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id i6UEwBO03685 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 16:58:11 +0200 Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 16:58:10 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <20040730.165810.32723618.wl@gnu.org> To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: scheme problems From: Werner LEMBERG X-Mailer: Mew version 4.0.65 on Emacs 21.3.50.1 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:2dc398bc694a1e60948148ba0a42c0da X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 15:04:19 -0000 [lilypond 2.2.5] I want to have a \Fermata macro which puts a fermata over a rest, moving it down by a certain amount (basically, this is to work around a bug in lilypond: The position of a fermata over a rest is far too high). While I can come up with scheme code to create a RestEvent, I wasn't able to find a way to set the extra-offset property at the same time: #(define (rest-fermata) (make-music 'TextScriptEvent 'text (make-musicglyph-markup "scripts-ufermata"))) Fermata = #(rest-fermata) ... R1\Fermata I tried #(define (rest-fermata) (make-music 'OverrideProperty 'symbol 'TextScript 'grob-property 'padding 'grob-value -2 'once #t) (make-music 'TextScriptEvent 'text (make-musicglyph-markup "scripts-ufermata"))) but this has no effect. Please advise. Werner From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jul 30 12:34:02 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BqaKY-0001Kl-Pc for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 12:34:02 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqaKX-0001Kb-Bw for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 12:34:01 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqaKV-0001KH-OP for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 12:34:00 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BqaKV-0001K7-KU for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 12:33:59 -0400 Received: from [213.39.168.208] (helo=tharkad.mine.nu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1BqaGb-00048p-B8 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 12:29:57 -0400 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=tharkad.tower) by tharkad.mine.nu with smtp (Exim 4.21) id 1BqaGZ-0005wD-VB for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 18:29:55 +0200 Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 18:29:55 +0200 From: Achim Schneider To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: eszet and y dieresis mixed up in ec*.pfa Message-Id: <20040730182955.4497bf6b.batchall@mordor.ch> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.7 (GTK+ 1.2.10; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 16:34:01 -0000 At least that's my conclusion after comparing the pfa's with iso8859-1: ordinal iso ec's 223 =DF SS 255 =FF =DF Applying :1,$s/=FF/=DF/g over the .ly makes the output printable, but isn't exactly the solution I am hoping for...=20 tia and keep up the good work, Achim From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jul 30 13:08:52 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BqasC-0008F5-TW for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 13:08:50 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqasA-0008EZ-NF for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 13:08:46 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bqas8-0008Dx-VC for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 13:08:46 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bqas8-0008Du-OT for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 13:08:44 -0400 Received: from [194.109.24.29] (helo=smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BqaoT-0000S1-GQ for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 13:04:57 -0400 Received: from byrd.xs4all.nl.byrd.xs4all.nl (byrd.xs4all.nl [213.84.26.127]) by smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6UH4u9N046822; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 19:04:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from hanwen@xs4all.nl) From: Han-Wen Nienhuys MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <16650.32702.242693.158940@byrd.xs4all.nl> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 19:05:02 +0200 To: Achim Schneider Subject: eszet and y dieresis mixed up in ec*.pfa In-Reply-To: <20040730182955.4497bf6b.batchall@mordor.ch> References: <20040730182955.4497bf6b.batchall@mordor.ch> X-Mailer: VM 7.14 under Emacs 21.3.1 X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: hanwen@xs4all.nl List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 17:08:47 -0000 batchall@mordor.ch writes: > At least that's my conclusion after comparing the pfa's with iso8859-= 1: >=20 > ordinal=09iso=09ec's > 223=09=DF=09SS > 255=09=FF=09=DF >=20 > Applying :1,$s/=FF/=DF/g over the .ly makes the output printable, but= isn't > exactly the solution I am hoping for...=20 in 2.3.9, you can do \paper { inputencoding =3D "latin1" } which should fix this. (I suspect that "y will disappear, as it's not present in the ec font.)= =20 --=20 Han-Wen Nienhuys | hanwen@xs4all.nl | http://www.xs4all.nl/~ha= nwen=20 From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jul 30 17:11:53 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BqefR-0006Ji-Ac for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 17:11:53 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqefP-0006JQ-6S for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 17:11:51 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqefO-0006JE-Fu for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 17:11:50 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BqefO-0006JB-CG for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 17:11:50 -0400 Received: from [206.117.18.6] (helo=zoot.lafn.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1Bqebh-0007Ak-Ud for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 17:08:02 -0400 Received: from [66.248.34.89] (02-089.138.popsite.net [66.248.34.89]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoot.lafn.org (8.12.3p3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id i6UL7pH4086903 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 14:07:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from be708@lafn.org) Message-ID: <410AB897.7000106@lafn.org> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 14:07:35 -0700 From: Patrick Stanistreet User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7 (X11/20040615) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: guitar transposition down an octave Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version 0.70, clamav-milter version 0.70j X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 21:11:51 -0000 I wrote the list earlier that I was converting my lilypond 1.6.0 files to 2.3.8 (started with 2.2.0) using convert-ly the form for midi transpose no longer worked. I tried transposition and it works ok and does not affect the score output I put in just ahead of the notes, dont know why c works, I just tried various until it sounded right. \transposition c From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jul 30 19:43:53 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bqh2X-0007ft-LD for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 19:43:53 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bqh2W-0007fd-HG for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 19:43:52 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bqh2U-0007fR-Ig for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 19:43:52 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bqh2U-0007fO-FZ for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 19:43:50 -0400 Received: from [212.227.126.189] (helo=moutng.kundenserver.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bqgyp-0001B3-TF for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 19:40:04 -0400 Received: from [212.227.126.209] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1Bqgyp-0006L5-00 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 01:40:03 +0200 Received: from [218.174.44.192] (helo=orion.univie.ac.at) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (TLSv1:EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1Bqgyn-0006zy-00 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 01:40:02 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.univie.ac.at (8.11.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id i6UNduI01752 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 01:39:56 +0200 Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 01:39:56 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <20040731.013956.193683690.wl@gnu.org> To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: scheme problems From: Werner LEMBERG X-Mailer: Mew version 4.0.65 on Emacs 21.3.50.1 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:2dc398bc694a1e60948148ba0a42c0da X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 23:43:52 -0000 [lilypond 2.2.5] I want to have a \Fermata macro which puts a fermata over a rest, moving it down by a certain amount (basically, this is to work around a bug in lilypond: The position of a fermata over a rest is far too high). While I can come up with scheme code to create a RestEvent, I wasn't able to find a way to set the extra-offset property at the same time: #(define (rest-fermata) (make-music 'TextScriptEvent 'text (make-musicglyph-markup "scripts-ufermata"))) Fermata = #(rest-fermata) ... R1\Fermata I tried #(define (rest-fermata) (make-music 'OverrideProperty 'symbol 'TextScript 'grob-property 'padding 'grob-value -2 'once #t) (make-music 'TextScriptEvent 'text (make-musicglyph-markup "scripts-ufermata"))) but this has no effect. Please advise. Werner From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jul 30 19:50:25 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bqh8r-0000LU-30 for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 19:50:25 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bqh8o-0000JQ-P2 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 19:50:22 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bqh8n-0000Ho-0f for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 19:50:22 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bqh8k-0000Hl-K3 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 19:50:20 -0400 Received: from [216.136.172.189] (helo=web11905.mail.yahoo.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bqh5S-0001od-Dm for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 19:46:54 -0400 Message-ID: <20040730234653.42138.qmail@web11905.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [69.110.47.76] by web11905.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 16:46:53 PDT Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 16:46:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Jurgis Subject: Which windows is supported? To: lilypond-user@gnu.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 23:50:22 -0000 Which versions of Windows is supported by the 2.2 version of Lilypad available for download? Windows 98? Windows XP? This info would be good to add to the download page (like the versions listed for some of the other OS's). George jurgis_sj@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jul 30 22:40:25 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BqjnL-000650-F4 for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 22:40:24 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqjnJ-00064p-At for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 22:40:21 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqjnH-00064d-Jn for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 22:40:21 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BqjnH-00064a-Gl for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 22:40:19 -0400 Received: from [209.225.28.208] (helo=mxsf08.cluster1.charter.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bqjjb-0003cr-LP for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 22:36:31 -0400 Received: from mxip11.cluster1.charter.net (mxip11a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.141]) by mxsf08.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6V2aUs6020427 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 22:36:30 -0400 Received: from 24-159-235-47.jvl.wi.charter.com (HELO 192.168.0.2) (24.159.235.47) by mxip11.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 30 Jul 2004 22:36:30 -0400 X-Ironport-AV: i="3.83,98,1089000000"; d="scan'208"; a="158890515:sNHT13076632" From: Lyle Raymond To: Mats Bengtsson , lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Update on my question re. lilypond-book. Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 21:44:47 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 References: <200407292237.16102.sly_raymond@charter.net> <4109FE9C.5010608@s3.kth.se> In-Reply-To: <4109FE9C.5010608@s3.kth.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200407302144.47257.sly_raymond@charter.net> Cc: X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 02:40:21 -0000 I figured that out, and even wrote a shell script that handles the whole job. The new question is this: My lilypond code is embedded in chapter1.latex. Chapter One of my book is a separate file which contains no \documentclass{} heading. Lilypond-book doesn't like this. How is this handled? Lyle On Friday 30 July 2004 2:54 am, you wrote: > Lyle Raymond wrote: > > Yesterday I posted a question regarding a problem I was having with > > lilypond-book (see original text below). I since discovered that the > > problem lies in using pdflatex to render the output. Is there a fix? > > Not at the moment, since the TeX code generated by LilyPond that is > included for each \begin{lilypond}...\end{lilypond} contains embedded > Postscript commands that pdflatex cannot handle. > The recommended solution for the moment is latex+dvips+ps2pdf, see > the manual of lilypond-book for details. > > /Mats -- ----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 1.0 GMU/O d+@ s: a C++ UL P+>++++ L++ E-(---) W++ N++ o--@ K- w+(--) !O !M V PS--(+) PE++ Y !PGP t+() !5 X+() R+++($) tv b++>+++ DI@ !D G e++>++++ h---@ r++ y? ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jul 31 00:32:53 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BqlYD-0000fX-JE for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 00:32:53 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqlYC-0000fR-4K for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 00:32:52 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqlYA-0000fF-Ie for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 00:32:51 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BqlYA-0000fC-Fh for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 00:32:50 -0400 Received: from [24.71.223.10] (helo=pd4mo3so.prod.shaw.ca) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BqlUn-00072J-08 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 00:29:21 -0400 Received: from pd5mr7so.prod.shaw.ca (pd5mr7so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.183]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0I1P00BWM8GW8V@l-daemon> for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 22:29:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml5so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.149]) by pd5mr7so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0I1P004VL8GWQNQ0@pd5mr7so.prod.shaw.ca> for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 22:29:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.57] (S0106006067227a4a.vc.shawcable.net [24.87.233.42]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0I1P001868GVIE@l-daemon> for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 22:29:20 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 21:29:14 -0700 From: Graham Percival Subject: Re: help In-reply-to: <16650.2573.398124.771629@byrd.xs4all.nl> To: hanwen@xs4all.nl Message-id: <2DB3A59A-E2AA-11D8-BC7A-000A95DABD74@shaw.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <005701c474c0$581376f0$bde8d2d1@yourxb2x7j77gn> <16650.2573.398124.771629@byrd.xs4all.nl> Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 04:32:52 -0000 On 30-Jul-04, at 1:42 AM, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > gperlist@shaw.ca writes: >> What operating system are you using? And have you read the >> instructions on the website? Lilypond is not the kind of program you >> can use without reading the documentation. > > Although I understand this remark, I dislike it, because it points to > a weakness of ours. It's only a weakness if one of the stated goals of Lilypond is to make it as easy to learn as possible. There are many software programs that nobody would expect to use without any study. (La)TeX is an obvious example, but I'd guess that all high-end research software (math programs, scientific simulators) are the same. Programming languages fit into that category, too. Sure, there's some programming environments that focus on ease of use -- various education products, maybe visual basic, etc -- but then there's languages that focus on power, flexibility, etc. If Rosegarden/Noteedit/MusE/ any those graphical score editing programs (that also export lily code) run on windows and osx in addition to Linux, it might be better to point newbies at those programs. Lilypond could focus its speciality (making beautiful sheet music), and those programs can do their thing (providing an easy-to-learn environment for creating sheet music). > How much work is installing lily4jedit? If we can get the new windows > users to get acquainted with lily through its wizard for score > creation, I suspect that we could get even more people hooked. Never having used jedit, nor cygwin/windows, I can't comment on this, but it sounds like a good idea. Cheers, - Graham From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jul 31 10:22:44 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Bqul2-0006vW-1O for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 10:22:44 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bqul0-0006vM-D8 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 10:22:42 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bquky-0006v9-JD for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 10:22:42 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bquky-0006v6-Go for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 10:22:40 -0400 Received: from [66.181.240.7] (helo=Mail.ultrasw.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BquhN-0002qK-F4 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 10:18:57 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.2] (unverified [66.181.242.79]) by Mail.ultrasw.com (Vircom SMTPRS 3.1.302.0) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 07:18:53 -0700 Message-ID: <410BAA4D.3090504@ultrasw.com> Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 07:18:53 -0700 From: Paul Scott User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (X11/20040715) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Band parts - a newbie's view References: <200407291946.20122.darnold4@cox.net> In-Reply-To: <200407291946.20122.darnold4@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 14:22:42 -0000 David Raleigh Arnold wrote: >On Wednesday 28 July 2004 12:09 pm, Ralph Little wrote: > > >>Hi, >>Unless I'm mistaken, cut-common and common-time are actually >>different things. >>Cut-common is the same as 2/2 not 4/4, whereas common-time and 4/4 >>are the same thing. >>Cut-common is usually represented with a C with a slash through. >> >>Cut-common is often found in band parts and effectively doubles the >>pace, at least that is my interpretation. >> >> > >It halves the count. Why go farther than that? > > A lot of American popular/dance music is/was written in cut time even whether or not it is played in cut time. There are many examples where cut time is played in 4/4. Paul Scott From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jul 31 12:04:47 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BqwLn-0006l1-Ln for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 12:04:47 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqwLk-0006iy-Sg for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 12:04:45 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqwLh-0006fP-Eg for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 12:04:43 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BqwLh-0006eu-Ag for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 12:04:41 -0400 Received: from [66.181.240.7] (helo=Mail.ultrasw.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BqwI5-0005iT-13 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 12:00:57 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.2] (unverified [66.181.242.79]) by Mail.ultrasw.com (Vircom SMTPRS 3.1.302.0) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 09:00:53 -0700 Message-ID: <410BC236.1000708@ultrasw.com> Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 09:00:54 -0700 From: Paul Scott User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (X11/20040715) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "lilypond-user@gnu.org" Subject: slurs, ties into and out of endings Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 16:04:46 -0000 I thought a trick for starting a slur or tie at the beginning of an alternate ending (previous to the first note in the ending as if the slur had started before the ending) had been posted or documented somewhere but I haven't been able to find it. Can anyone help? TIA, Paul Scott From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jul 31 15:15:44 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BqzKa-00080Y-O2 for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 15:15:44 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqzKY-00080M-R1 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 15:15:42 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqzKY-00080A-4H for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 15:15:42 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BqzKY-000807-1b for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 15:15:42 -0400 Received: from [209.225.28.216] (helo=mxsf16.cluster1.charter.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BqzHD-00012q-7u for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 15:12:15 -0400 Received: from mxip15.cluster1.charter.net (mxip15a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.145]) by mxsf16.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6VJCEB1015319 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 15:12:14 -0400 Received: from 24-159-235-47.jvl.wi.charter.com (HELO 192.168.0.2) (24.159.235.47) by mxip15.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 31 Jul 2004 15:12:14 -0400 X-Ironport-AV: i="3.83,98,1089000000"; d="scan'208"; a="157681494:sNHT13642264" From: Lyle Raymond To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Guitar Chords in Tab Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 14:20:38 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200407311420.39436.sly_raymond@charter.net> X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 19:15:43 -0000 New Question: following is a short lilypond script which ought to illustrate the fingering for an e-form A major chord. After rendering, I get a block of tab fingerings with a large stem running through it. How do I avoid this? .lp code follows: ------------------------------v 1 \score{ 2 \notes { 3 2 4 \context TabStaff 5 {\property TabStaff.minimumFret = #5 6 <>} 7 } 8 \paper{} 9 } Thank you in advance for the answer. Lyle ----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 1.0 GMU/O d+@ s: a C++ UL P+>++++ L++ E-(---) W++ N++ o--@ K- w+(--) !O !M V PS--(+) PE++ Y !PGP t+() !5 X+() R+++($) tv b++>+++ DI@ !D G e++>++++ h---@ r++ y? ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jul 31 15:26:22 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BqzUs-0002Nl-EH for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 15:26:22 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqzUq-0002MP-RD for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 15:26:20 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqzUp-0002LX-4Y for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 15:26:20 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BqzUp-0002LU-25 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 15:26:19 -0400 Received: from [66.133.131.35] (helo=relay02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BqzRJ-00027p-G4 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 15:22:41 -0400 Received: (qmail 30180 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2004 19:22:40 -0000 Received: from 67-50-138-119.nrp2feld.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (HELO [192.168.0.100]) ([67.50.138.119]) (envelope-sender ) by relay02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (FrontierMTA 2.3.23) with SMTP for ; 31 Jul 2004 19:22:40 -0000 In-Reply-To: <2DB3A59A-E2AA-11D8-BC7A-000A95DABD74@shaw.ca> References: <005701c474c0$581376f0$bde8d2d1@yourxb2x7j77gn> <16650.2573.398124.771629@byrd.xs4all.nl> <2DB3A59A-E2AA-11D8-BC7A-000A95DABD74@shaw.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Benjamin Esham Subject: Re: help Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 15:22:37 -0400 To: Graham Percival X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 19:26:21 -0000 On Jul 31, 2004, at 12:29 AM, Graham Percival wrote: > If Rosegarden/Noteedit/MusE/ any those graphical score editing > programs (that > also export lily code) run on windows and osx in addition to Linux, it > might > be better to point newbies at those programs. Lilypond could focus its > speciality (making beautiful sheet music), and those programs can do > their > thing (providing an easy-to-learn environment for creating sheet > music). I realize this is a bit off-topic, but... is there a Lily-compatible graphical score editor that's compatible with OS X? I use Myriad's Melody Assistant to write scores, but it doesn't export in .ly-- it exports MIDI, ABC, and a couple of other formats, so it's possible to export indirectly, but I find it's easier just to type the whole score into Lilypond manually. -- Benjamin D. Esham { http://bdesham.net bdesham@iname.com } AIM: bdesham 1 2 8 Wikipedia, the Free Encyclopedia - wikipedia.org From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jul 31 15:42:17 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1BqzkG-00066q-V4 for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 15:42:17 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqzkE-00064V-J4 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 15:42:14 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BqzkD-00063S-OR for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 15:42:14 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BqzkD-00063L-K5 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 15:42:13 -0400 Received: from [206.117.18.6] (helo=zoot.lafn.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1Bqzgh-0003pA-6D for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 15:38:35 -0400 Received: from [66.248.35.75] (03-075.138.popsite.net [66.248.35.75]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoot.lafn.org (8.12.3p3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id i6VJcPD4000568 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 12:38:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from be708@lafn.org) Message-ID: <410BF526.90704@lafn.org> Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 12:38:14 -0700 From: Patrick Stanistreet User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7 (X11/20040615) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: question on removing bar numbers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version 0.75.1, clamav-milter version 0.75c on zoot.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 19:42:15 -0000 I am including some inline code which is an attempt on my part to print a drum score crib sheet without bar numbers. Commented out stuff doesn't work. Bug? The line #(set-default-paper-size "letter") seems to cause a layout problem although my usage of it may be incorrect. I noticed while adding the fourth line on the page that the page layout would change dramatically. Then after modifying the header and just having only a title it seems that the layout goes back to normal. Until the 4th line on the page is added with a title and a subtitle in the header the layout is normal Of course commenting out the first line helps. #(set-default-paper-size "letter") \header { title = "Lilypond drum pitches" %subtitle = " " } \version "2.3.4" drumsvoce = \drums { bda4^"acoustic bass drum" \repeat unfold 3 bda4 bd4^"bass drum" \repeat unfold 3 bd4 \break ssh4^"hisidestick" \repeat unfold 3 ssh4 ss4^"sidestick" \repeat unfold 3 ss4 ssl4^"losidestick" \repeat unfold 3 ssl4 \break sn4^"snare" \repeat unfold 3 sn4 hc4^"handclap" \repeat unfold 3 hc4 sne4^"electricsnare" \repeat unfold 3 sne4 \break tomfl4^"lowfloortom" \repeat unfold 3 tomfl4 hhc4^"closedhihat" \repeat unfold 3 hhc4 hh4^"hihat" \repeat unfold 3 hh4 \break } % end drumsvoce notes kitnames = \lyrics { bda \skip 4*3 bd \skip 4*3 \break ssh \skip 4*3 ss \skip 4*3 ssl \skip 4*3 \break sn \skip 4*3 hc \skip 4*3 sne \skip 4*3 \break tomfl \skip 4*3 hhc \skip 4*3 hh \skip 4*3 \break } % end lyrics \score { << \context DrumStaff \with { \remove Time_signature_engraver \remove Bar_number_engraver } \drumsvoce %\context DrumVoice \with { % \remove Time_signature_engraver % \remove Bar_number_engraver %} \drumsvoce \context Lyrics { \kitnames } %\context Lyrics \with { % \remove Time_signature_engraver % \remove Bar_number_engraver %} \kitnames >> \paper { indent = 0.0 \mm } \midi { \tempo 4 = 60 } } % end score block From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jul 31 21:33:18 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Br5Dy-0004Pu-2G for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 21:33:18 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Br5Dv-0004Pj-Md for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 21:33:15 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Br5Du-0004PS-Qq for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 21:33:15 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Br5Du-0004PI-OC for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 21:33:14 -0400 Received: from [68.230.240.29] (helo=lakermmtao10.cox.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Br5AO-0000KB-EB for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 21:29:36 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.104] (really [68.100.79.121]) by lakermmtao10.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.03.02.01 201-2131-111-104-103-20040709) with ESMTP id <20040801012934.FJWQ20727.lakermmtao10.cox.net@[192.168.0.104]> for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 21:29:34 -0400 Message-ID: <410C47F3.7030207@cox.net> Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 21:31:31 -0400 From: Eugene Kim User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (Windows/20040502) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: question about slurs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2004 01:33:16 -0000 Hello, this is a specific question I'm having problems with: I have the following notation: 2( 4) that's a half-note cord slurred with a quarter note chord. The notation is fine, but it only slurs the top notes of the chords, and I want another slur connecting the bottom notes of the chords, if you get what I mean... is there any way to accomplish that? Thanks, Eugene Kim From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jul 31 23:01:18 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Br6b8-0007ww-GA for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 23:01:18 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Br6b7-0007wq-9J for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 23:01:17 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Br6b6-0007wd-Fg for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 23:01:16 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Br6b6-0007wa-Di for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 23:01:16 -0400 Received: from [209.225.28.223] (helo=mxsf23.cluster1.charter.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Br6Xj-0000eF-W3 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 22:57:48 -0400 Received: from mxip20.cluster1.charter.net (mxip20a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.150]) by mxsf23.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i712vktd022450 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 22:57:46 -0400 Received: from 24-159-235-47.jvl.wi.charter.com (HELO 192.168.0.2) (24.159.235.47) by mxip20.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 31 Jul 2004 22:57:46 -0400 X-Ironport-AV: i="3.83,98,1089000000"; d="scan'208"; a="89309740:sNHT12249104" From: Lyle Raymond To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Jazz Ornamentation Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 22:06:10 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200407312206.12017.sly_raymond@charter.net> X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2004 03:01:17 -0000 I'm engraving copies of some solo transcriptions I've done, and I've run into a couple of challenges: 1. How does one indicate a glissando from an indeterminate source (as opposed to a gliss between two specific notes)? 2. What is the best way to display a "ghost" note, either by changing the note head to an "X" or by enclosing the notehead in parentheses? ----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 1.0 GMU/O d+@ s: a C++ UL P+>++++ L++ E-(---) W++ N++ o--@ K- w+(--) !O !M V PS--(+) PE++ Y !PGP t+() !5 X+() R+++($) tv b++>+++ DI@ !D G e++>++++ h---@ r++ y? ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jul 31 23:24:44 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Br6xo-0004lP-87 for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 23:24:44 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Br6xm-0004lD-Bg for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 23:24:42 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Br6xl-0004l1-Rq for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 23:24:42 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Br6xl-0004ky-Ob for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 23:24:41 -0400 Received: from [24.71.223.10] (helo=pd5mo3so.prod.shaw.ca) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Br6uC-0003IW-Lp for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 23:21:00 -0400 Received: from pd3mr3so.prod.shaw.ca (pd3mr3so-ser.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.179]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0I1Q00IY2ZBV6N@l-daemon> for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 21:07:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml6so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.150]) by pd3mr3so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0I1Q008TIZBVH950@pd3mr3so.prod.shaw.ca> for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 21:07:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.57] (S0106006067227a4a.vc.shawcable.net [24.87.233.42]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0I1Q00H56ZBU10@l-daemon> for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 21:07:07 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 20:07:02 -0700 From: Graham Percival Subject: Re: Jazz Ornamentation In-reply-to: <200407312206.12017.sly_raymond@charter.net> To: Lyle Raymond Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <200407312206.12017.sly_raymond@charter.net> Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2004 03:24:42 -0000 On 31-Jul-04, at 8:06 PM, Lyle Raymond wrote: > I'm engraving copies of some solo transcriptions I've done, and I've > run into > a couple of challenges: > > 1. How does one indicate a glissando from an indeterminate source (as > opposed > to a gliss between two specific notes)? Use an invisible note. (see the manual or list archives for this) > 2. What is the best way to display a "ghost" note, either by changing > the > note head to an "X" or by enclosing the notehead in parentheses? I'd change the notehead; \override NoteHead #'style = #'cross should work. I found a page that displayed the different styles of noteheads once, but I can't find it right now. Cheers, - Graham From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Jul 31 23:40:45 2004 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.33) id 1Br7DJ-00013P-1f for mharc-lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 23:40:45 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Br7DH-00013K-N0 for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 23:40:43 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Br7DG-000138-8O for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 23:40:43 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Br7DG-000135-4L for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 23:40:42 -0400 Received: from [24.71.223.10] (helo=pd5mo3so.prod.shaw.ca) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Br78s-0004zM-UF for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 23:36:11 -0400 Received: from pd3mr3so.prod.shaw.ca (pd3mr3so-ser.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.179]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0I1R00I5Q00B6N@l-daemon> for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 21:21:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml6so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.150]) by pd3mr3so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0I1R0080Z00BHA60@pd3mr3so.prod.shaw.ca> for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 21:21:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.57] (S0106006067227a4a.vc.shawcable.net [24.87.233.42]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0I1R0076D00BOO@l-daemon> for lilypond-user@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 21:21:47 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 20:21:43 -0700 From: Graham Percival Subject: scorditura (or "string-specific transposition") To: lilypond-user Mailinglist Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: lilypond-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: LilyPond user discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2004 03:40:43 -0000 I know how to display the new tuning for a stringed instrument. Can Lilypond (almost certainly via scheme) print the noteheads correctly? I mean, can the lilypond input file be written in C, and have Lilypond/scheme transpose only the appropriate notes? In my example, the viola C string is tuned down to a B. I have my input file written at pitch. Can I tell Lilypond to transpose all notes on the lowest line of the alto clef (and lower) up a semitone? Cheers, - Graham