From daniel.farrell@imperial.ac.uk Thu Jan 12 12:46:44 2006 Received: from mr3.cc.ic.ac.uk (mr3.cc.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.113]) by cscs01.cscs.lsa.umich.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0CHkh5n016306 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 12:46:44 -0500 Received: from icexp2.cc.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.3.42] helo=icex.imperial.ac.uk) by mr3.cc.ic.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ex6X5-0008Ur-8M for modelling@swarm.org; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 17:46:43 +0000 Received: from [155.198.186.241] ([155.198.186.241]) by icex.imperial.ac.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 12 Jan 2006 17:45:43 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: modelling@swarm.org From: Daniel J Farrell Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 17:45:42 +0000 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Jan 2006 17:45:43.0075 (UTC) FILETIME=[027F6F30:01C617A0] Subject: [Swarm-Modelling] Objective-C Wrapping for GSL X-BeenThere: modelling@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Swarm Modelling List-Id: Swarm Modelling List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 17:46:44 -0000 Hello everybody, Swarm look very nice, well done! I found your site by doing a search for science apps objective-c, or something to that effect. It's great to see objective-c in science applications, I really like the language. I program objective-c apps for my phd research and would find it really interesting to have a mess around with your objective-c wrapper for gsl. How would I be able to do that? Also, as it's quite rare to find objective-c in scientific applications (it's mostly C++) do you know of any web community where people like me and other can communicate? Kind regards, Daniel. From pauljohn@ku.edu Thu Jan 12 15:51:52 2006 Received: from smtpku2.cc.ku.edu (smtpku2.cc.ku.edu [129.237.11.34]) by cscs01.cscs.lsa.umich.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0CKpppV002147 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:51:51 -0500 Received: from [129.237.61.25] (pols110.pols.ku.edu [129.237.61.25]) by smtpku2.cc.ku.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0CKpjdn009449 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 14:51:50 -0600 Message-ID: <43C6C150.5010104@ku.edu> Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 14:51:28 -0600 From: Paul Johnson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7-1.1.fc4 (X11/20050929) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Swarm Modelling Subject: Re: [Swarm-Modelling] Objective-C Wrapping for GSL References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.00 () [Tag at 100.00] X-CanItPRO-Stream: default X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 192.168.2.34 X-BeenThere: modelling@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Swarm Modelling List-Id: Swarm Modelling List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 20:51:52 -0000 Daniel J Farrell wrote: > Hello everybody, > > Swarm look very nice, well done! I found your site by doing a search > for science apps objective-c, or something to that effect. It's great > to see objective-c in science applications, I really like the language. > > I program objective-c apps for my phd research and would find it > really interesting to have a mess around with your objective-c > wrapper for gsl. How would I be able to do that? I did not know there was an ObjC wrapper for gsl. Where did you see that? > > Also, as it's quite rare to find objective-c in scientific > applications (it's mostly C++) do you know of any web community where > people like me and other can communicate? The most active places I've found are the usenet group for objc and the swarm-support list. There has been rising interest in ObjC since the Mac OSX is built with it. > > Kind regards, > > Daniel. > _______________________________________________ > Modelling mailing list > Modelling@swarm.org > http://www.swarm.org/mailman/listinfo/modelling -- Paul E. Johnson email: pauljohn@ku.edu Dept. of Political Science http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn 1541 Lilac Lane, Rm 504 University of Kansas Office: (785) 864-9086 Lawrence, Kansas 66044-3177 FAX: (785) 864-5700 From daniel.farrell@imperial.ac.uk Thu Jan 12 16:07:31 2006 Received: from mr3.cc.ic.ac.uk (mr3.cc.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.113]) by cscs01.cscs.lsa.umich.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0CL7UPu003827 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 16:07:31 -0500 Received: from icexp2.cc.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.3.42] helo=icex.imperial.ac.uk) by mr3.cc.ic.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Ex9fO-0005wq-DF; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 21:07:30 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([129.31.69.204]) by icex.imperial.ac.uk over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 12 Jan 2006 21:07:18 +0000 In-Reply-To: <43C6C150.5010104@ku.edu> References: <43C6C150.5010104@ku.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <75F5127F-48A4-4869-B0C9-2D85DF90876C@imperial.ac.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Daniel J Farrell Subject: Re: [Swarm-Modelling] Objective-C Wrapping for GSL Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 21:07:16 +0000 To: Swarm Modelling X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Jan 2006 21:07:18.0147 (UTC) FILETIME=[2BB8F530:01C617BC] Cc: Paul Johnson X-BeenThere: modelling@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Swarm Modelling List-Id: Swarm Modelling List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 21:07:31 -0000 Hi Paul, This is #1 when you search google for 'objective-c gsl'. ( http:// sources.redhat.com/ml/gsl-discuss/1999/msg00068.html )Which lead me to think that there is a Objective-C wrapper in Swarm Framework? Kind regards, Daniel. On 12 Jan 2006, at 20:51, Paul Johnson wrote: > Daniel J Farrell wrote: > >> Hello everybody, >> >> Swarm look very nice, well done! I found your site by doing a >> search for science apps objective-c, or something to that effect. >> It's great to see objective-c in science applications, I really >> like the language. >> >> I program objective-c apps for my phd research and would find it >> really interesting to have a mess around with your objective-c >> wrapper for gsl. How would I be able to do that? > > I did not know there was an ObjC wrapper for gsl. Where did you > see that? > >> >> Also, as it's quite rare to find objective-c in scientific >> applications (it's mostly C++) do you know of any web community >> where people like me and other can communicate? > > The most active places I've found are the usenet group for objc and > the swarm-support list. There has been rising interest in ObjC > since the Mac OSX is built with it. > >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Daniel. >> _______________________________________________ >> Modelling mailing list >> Modelling@swarm.org >> http://www.swarm.org/mailman/listinfo/modelling > > > > -- > Paul E. Johnson email: pauljohn@ku.edu > Dept. of Political Science http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn > 1541 Lilac Lane, Rm 504 University of > Kansas Office: (785) 864-9086 > Lawrence, Kansas 66044-3177 FAX: (785) 864-5700 > > _______________________________________________ > Modelling mailing list > Modelling@swarm.org > http://www.swarm.org/mailman/listinfo/modelling From mgd@santafe.edu Thu Jan 12 17:22:12 2006 Received: from cyprus.santafe.edu (cyprus.santafe.edu [192.12.12.49]) by cscs01.cscs.lsa.umich.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0CMMAgo010663 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 17:22:11 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.101] (pcp03532053pcs.sntafe01.nm.comcast.net [68.35.5.34]) (authenticated bits=0) by cyprus.santafe.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k0CMKcGE023972 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:20:52 -0700 Message-ID: <43C6D67D.6030800@santafe.edu> Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:21:49 -0700 From: "Marcus G. Daniels" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Swarm Modelling Subject: Re: [Swarm-Modelling] Objective-C Wrapping for GSL References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.8 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=no version=3.0.4-gr0 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4-gr0 (2005-06-05) on cyprus.santafe.edu X-BeenThere: modelling@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Swarm Modelling List-Id: Swarm Modelling List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 22:22:12 -0000 Hi Daniel, > I program objective-c apps for my phd research and would find it > really interesting to have a mess around with your objective-c > wrapper for gsl. How would I be able to do that? As I recall, that discussion was not really about automated tools to do it, but just the logistics of physically copying code into Swarm. Anyway, the process of making a C function callable from Objective C is easy, even easier than C++. You just call the C function. Objective C is a superset of C. Most popular programming languages have some means to `reflect' on the methods inside their runtimes or processed by their compilers. The task is how to read this data to tell the Objective C runtime what kinds of incoming calls it should recognize, and how to issue those calls to the foreign runtime (and to do all of this with minimum execution overhead). Swarm implements two of these: Java and COM. From jp1660@att.net Fri Jan 13 00:48:27 2006 Received: from mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.115]) by cscs01.cscs.lsa.umich.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0D5mRPN021406 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 00:48:27 -0500 Received: from smellybutt.att.net (c-69-252-198-28.hsd1.nm.comcast.net[69.252.198.28]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc11) with SMTP id <2006011305481611100o0nkse>; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 05:48:27 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20060112172006.01ad3e28@ipostoffice.worldnet.att.net> X-Sender: jp1660@att.net@ipostoffice.worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 17:30:44 -0700 To: Swarm Modelling From: John Pfersich Subject: Re: [Swarm-Modelling] Objective-C Wrapping for GSL In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-BeenThere: modelling@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Swarm Modelling List-Id: Swarm Modelling List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 05:48:28 -0000 Apple has a number of mailing lists related to their use of Objective-C and there are some that are related to gnustep and openstep. The Apple lists are located at http://lists.apple.com/. At 05:45 PM 1/12/2006 +0000, Daniel J Farrell wrote: >Hello everybody, > >Swarm look very nice, well done! I found your site by doing a search >for science apps objective-c, or something to that effect. It's great >to see objective-c in science applications, I really like the language. > >I program objective-c apps for my phd research and would find it >really interesting to have a mess around with your objective-c >wrapper for gsl. 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Thanks, Alex Lancaster From announce-bounces@swarm.org Sun Jan 22 18:40:40 2006 Received: from cscs01.cscs.lsa.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cscs01.cscs.lsa.umich.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0MNdq9v023894; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 18:40:35 -0500 Received: from humboldt1.com (exthelm-1.humboldt1.com [206.13.45.11]) by cscs01.cscs.lsa.umich.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0MNdp93023889 for ; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 18:39:51 -0500 Received: from [192.168.11.2] (69-12-161-65.dsl.dynamic.humboldt1.com [69.12.161.65]) by humboldt1.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k0MNdkFF012971 for ; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 15:39:46 -0800 Message-ID: <43D41804.5090204@northcoast.com> Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 15:40:52 -0800 From: Steve Railsback User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: announce@swarm.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: announce@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: announce-bounces@swarm.org Errors-To: announce-bounces@swarm.org Cc: Subject: [Swarm-Modelling] [Swarm Announce] Major revision of the Swarm Development Group's wiki www.swarm.org X-BeenThere: modelling@swarm.org Reply-To: Agent-based modeling List-Id: Agent-based modeling List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 23:40:41 -0000 Swarm Development Group announces a major re-design of our wiki site http://www.swarm.org. The purpose of the re-design is to emphasize our mission of supporting agent-based modeling in general, in addition to supporting Swarm software and its users. www.swarm.org is still where you go for Swarm software, but we are also building the site into a resource for all agent-based modelers, no matter what software they use. We are retaining "News" as a prominent section, but plan to include news (meeting announcements, releases of new literature and software, etc.) of interest to all agent-based modelers and not just Swarm users. There is a new section "Agent- and Individual-based Modeling Resources" to provide information of general interest to modelers. Currently it includes (in larval states) resources on user communities, software, model design and applications, and specific scientific domains. Other sections on our new main page direct people to the Swarm software resources and to information on SDG. Remember that this site is a wiki, which means that people like you can and should contribute to it. It is very easy to register as a user, log in, and add information. At the bottom of the main page is a "help" box that contains information on what kinds of contributions are appropriate and how to edit the wiki. As additional efforts to build an inclusive community of modelers, we will also soon be encouraging users of other platforms to participate in our modelling email list and in SwarmFests. And keep your eye on the site for news on SwarmFest 2006! Steve Railsback for the SDG Board of Directors _______________________________________________ Announce mailing list Announce@swarm.org http://www.swarm.org/mailman/listinfo/announce From ysurya2@uic.edu Thu Jan 26 14:36:40 2006 Received: from smtpout-2.priv.cc.uic.edu (smtpout-2.cc.uic.edu [128.248.155.233]) by cscs01.cscs.lsa.umich.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id k0QJadpu005407 for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 14:36:40 -0500 Received: (qmail 1165 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2006 13:36:39 -0600 Received: from webmail-5.cc.uic.edu (HELO webmail.uic.edu) (128.248.155.42) by smtpout-2.cc.uic.edu with SMTP; 26 Jan 2006 13:36:39 -0600 Received: from shd002.ifth.uic.edu ([131.193.118.104]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user ysurya2) by webmail.uic.edu with HTTP; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 13:36:39 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <1272.131.193.118.104.1138304199.squirrel@webmail.uic.edu> Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 13:36:39 -0600 (CST) From: "Yogeshwar D Suryawanshi" To: modelling@swarm.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: [Swarm-Modelling] Hello- Few questions about Swarm applications to SCM X-BeenThere: modelling@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Agent-based modeling List-Id: Agent-based modeling List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:36:40 -0000 Hi List, Greetings.My name is Yogeshwar & I am a Graduate student at the University of Illinois, Chicago. I came to know about this software few days back. I have few questions about its applications. It would be great if you could answer these questions. 1. Can I use this software for simulating a Supply Chain. Say, I want to design the information flow of Supply chain with one supplier, one manufacturer, one retailer and one customer for one product Type ? I have tried doing it with ARENA but its not useful. So please answer this question. 2. I am new to this software, I tried looking into your "applications" and "help" sections for Swarm but couldn't find what I wanted. Please guide me, If I want to use Swarm for Supply Chain Simulation, How should I go about it( Downloading and Installing which package, its not clear). I would like to use C language for coding. Thank you very much for your valuable time. Sincerely, Yogeshwar Yogeshwar D. Suryawanshi Graduate Student Industrial Engineering, Uni of Illinois,Chicago Cell :312-479-7825 " If Nature Is Powerful,A Thought Is Omnipotent." From vitorino.ramos@alfa.ist.utl.pt Thu Jan 26 15:38:43 2006 Received: from smtp2.ist.utl.pt (smtp2.ist.utl.pt [193.136.128.22]) by cscs01.cscs.lsa.umich.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0QKcglp011681 for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 15:38:43 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2.ist.utl.pt (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61BCC7001369 for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 20:38:41 +0000 (WET) Received: from smtp2.ist.utl.pt ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp2 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10025) with LMTP id 29307-01-42 for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 20:38:41 +0000 (WET) Received: from mail.ist.utl.pt (mail.ist.utl.pt [193.136.128.8]) by smtp2.ist.utl.pt (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BFE97001354 for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 20:38:41 +0000 (WET) Received: from Vramos.alfa.ist.utl.pt ([81.84.170.21]) (AUTH: LOGIN vitorino.ramos, TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,168bits,DES-CBC3-SHA) by mail.ist.utl.pt with esmtp; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 20:38:40 +0000 Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.1.20060126194252.025c2110@mail.ist.utl.pt> X-Sender: vitorino.ramos@mail.ist.utl.pt X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.1.1 Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 20:39:28 +0000 To: Agent-based modeling From: Vitorino RAMOS Subject: Re: [Swarm-Modelling] Hello- Few questions about Swarm applications to SCM In-Reply-To: <1272.131.193.118.104.1138304199.squirrel@webmail.uic.edu> References: <1272.131.193.118.104.1138304199.squirrel@webmail.uic.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at ist.utl.pt X-BeenThere: modelling@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Agent-based modeling List-Id: Agent-based modeling List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 20:38:43 -0000 Hi Yogeshwar: Well, this really depends on what kind of paradigmatic approach you may want to use, in order to solve supply chain problems. This does not depend at all on the SWARM software. If it is a distributed one, e.g. MAS Multi-agent systems , Swarm Intelligence or else, there is quite good chances that the SWARM platform may help you out. For instance, a manufacturer, one retailer and customers may be viewed as edges in one big network, where agents meet and evolve. You could also look at the problem, as a combinatorial optimization problem, solved by distributed ant-like-agents: Have a look here: http://www.aco-metaheuristic.org/publications.html#SOP http://www.idsia.ch/~luca/has-sop.html http://www.aco-metaheuristic.org/publications.html#SCH Anyway, after determining what conceptual approach you may wish to follow, you can really undertake to code it over SWARM. Many of its features and libraries are quite universal (http://www.swarm.org/swarmdocs-2.2/set/set.html), and can overcome your conceptual translation. Best, v. ~ v. ramos. http://alfa.ist.utl.pt/~cvrm/staff/vramos/, [...] Interactions among many sporuliferous and ubiquitous abstractions may lead to increasing reality [...], Vitorino Ramos, 2001. At 19:36 26-01-2006, you wrote: >Hi List, > Greetings.My name is Yogeshwar & I am a Graduate student at the >University of Illinois, Chicago. I came to know about this >software few >days back. I have few questions about its applications. It would be great >if you could answer these questions. > >1. Can I use this software for simulating a Supply Chain. Say, I want to >design the information flow of Supply chain with one supplier, one >manufacturer, one retailer and one customer for one product Type ? > >I have tried doing it with ARENA but its not useful. So please answer this >question. > >2. I am new to this software, I tried looking into your "applications" and >"help" sections for Swarm but couldn't find what I wanted. Please guide >me, If I want to use Swarm for Supply Chain Simulation, How should I go >about it( Downloading and Installing which package, its not clear). I >would like to use C language for coding. > >Thank you very much for your valuable time. > >Sincerely, >Yogeshwar > > >Yogeshwar D. Suryawanshi > >Graduate Student >Industrial Engineering, >Uni of Illinois,Chicago >Cell :312-479-7825 > >" If Nature Is Powerful,A Thought Is Omnipotent." > >_______________________________________________ >Modelling mailing list >Modelling@swarm.org >http://www.swarm.org/mailman/listinfo/modelling From bela.patkai@tut.fi Fri Jan 27 02:26:32 2006 Received: from outbox.tut.fi (mail.cc.tut.fi [130.230.1.120]) by cscs01.cscs.lsa.umich.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0R7QVfH008940 for ; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 02:26:32 -0500 Received: from mail.cc.tut.fi (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by outbox.tut.fi (Postfix) with SMTP id E44B7B82 for ; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 09:26:30 +0200 (EET) Received: from outbox.tut.fi ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.cc.tut.fi (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2006012709263000144 for ; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 09:26:30 +0200 Received: from alpha.cc.tut.fi (alpha.cc.tut.fi [130.230.56.11]) by outbox.tut.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB372B7B for ; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 09:26:30 +0200 (EET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (ttekpc129.me.tut.fi [130.230.57.129]) by alpha.cc.tut.fi (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k0R7QRs9404461 for ; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 09:26:30 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <43D9CB19.4070608@tut.fi> Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 09:26:17 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Dr=2E_B=E9la_P=E1tkai=22?= Organization: Tampere Univeristy of Technology, Finland User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Agent-based modeling Subject: Re: [Swarm-Modelling] Hello- Few questions about Swarm applications to SCM References: <1272.131.193.118.104.1138304199.squirrel@webmail.uic.edu> In-Reply-To: <1272.131.193.118.104.1138304199.squirrel@webmail.uic.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by cscs01.cscs.lsa.umich.edu id k0R7QVfH008940 X-BeenThere: modelling@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Agent-based modeling List-Id: Agent-based modeling List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 07:26:32 -0000 Hi Yogeshwar, Yes, it is possible to model and simulate Supply Chains with Swarm, some packages have been developed for this purpose. Those three I know of are: I. Fu-Ren Lin, Troy J. Strader, Michael J.Shaw developed a supply chain simulator for Swarm in Objective-C. If you are a C programmer this may be interesting for you (as far as I can tell C code is easy to wrap into objc classes). They published a paper on it in the first Swarm book "Economic Simulations in Swarm - Agent-Based Modelling and Object Oriented Programming", the paper is "Using Swarm for Simulating the Order Fulfillment Process in Divergent Assembly Supply Chains". The code is probably available on the swarm ftp, at least I have it on my hard drive from somewhere. II. The most extensive package is Pietro Terna's jES Java Enterprise Simulator, http://web.econ.unito.it/~terna/jes/ developed in Java. You will find lots of material on his pages. III. A simpler and more production - and factory scheduling - oriented package is under development at my institute. It is not currently available for download but I can send you a private snapshot. You can get an idea of it by having a look at an older javadoc: http://www.pe.tut.fi/personal/patkai/software/modnet/Doc/index.html There may be more SCM packages, I'm sure others will tell. However, it really depends on what you want to do. Agent-Based Modelling is best suited for problems with many interacting agents (or components/individuals), where the interactions are "interesting". If you know something about the "parts" and want to understand the "whole", and you want to understand how the micro- and the macro world relate to each other then you might want to do ABM. However, if your problem is such that you are able to use optimization then ABM may not be necessary. BR Bela -- ------------------------------------------- Béla Pátkai Ph.D. /Researcher/ Product and Production System Design Lab Institute of Production Engineering Tampere University of Technology Korkeakoulunkatu 6, 33720, Tampere, Finland Mail: P.O.Box 589, 33101 Tampere, Finland Tel: +358 3 3115 3276 Fax: +358 3 3115 2753 GSM: +358 40 7545 200 Institute: www.pe.tut.fi Personal: www.pe.tut.fi/personal/patkai Complex Systems Network: www.tut.fi/complex ------------------------------------------- From pauljohn@ku.edu Fri Jan 27 12:16:56 2006 Received: from smtp.sunflower.com (smtp.sunflower.com [24.124.0.128]) by cscs01.cscs.lsa.umich.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0RHGuDV000859 for ; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 12:16:56 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.100] (243.123.cm.sunflower.com [24.124.123.243]) by smtp.sunflower.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0RHGtsJ032591 for ; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 11:16:55 -0600 Message-ID: <43DA558F.2080605@ku.edu> Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 11:17:03 -0600 From: Paul Johnson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7-1.1.fc4 (X11/20050929) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Agent-based modeling Subject: Re: [Swarm-Modelling] Hello- Few questions about Swarm applications to SCM References: <1272.131.193.118.104.1138304199.squirrel@webmail.uic.edu> <43D9CB19.4070608@tut.fi> In-Reply-To: <43D9CB19.4070608@tut.fi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: modelling@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Agent-based modeling List-Id: Agent-based modeling List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 17:16:56 -0000 Dr. Béla Pátkai wrote: > Hi Yogeshwar, > > Yes, it is possible to model and simulate Supply Chains with Swarm, > some packages have been developed for this purpose. Those three I know > of are: > > I. Fu-Ren Lin, Troy J. Strader, Michael J.Shaw developed a supply > chain simulator for Swarm in Objective-C. If you are a C programmer > this may be interesting for you (as far as I can tell C code is easy > to wrap into objc classes). They published a paper on it in the first > Swarm book "Economic Simulations in Swarm - Agent-Based Modelling and > Object Oriented Programming", the paper is "Using Swarm for Simulating > the Order Fulfillment Process in Divergent Assembly Supply Chains". > The code is probably available on the swarm ftp, at least I have it on > my hard drive from somewhere. > If you--or anybody--do have a full working copy of that Lin, Stradler, and Shaw code, please send it to me and I'll make sure it goes into the swarm archives. As of now, the code that is provided is incomplete. It has the h and m files, but it does not have the data files that are required to actually run a simulation. A student in China has been corresponding with me about that model during the last semester and it was a somewhat frustrating experience to learn we did not have all of the moving parts pj -- Paul E. Johnson email: pauljohn@ku.edu Dept. of Political Science http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn 1541 Lilac Lane, Rm 504 University of Kansas Office: (785) 864-9086 Lawrence, Kansas 66044-3177 FAX: (785) 864-5700