From mujavaswarm@yahoo.com Mon Jun 30 22:41:49 2003 Received: from web13102.mail.yahoo.com (web13102.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.147]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h615fI0B015190 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 22:41:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20030701054114.65196.qmail@web13102.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.216.230.96] by web13102.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 22:41:14 PDT Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 22:41:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Suman Kanuganti To: support@swarm.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Swarm-Support] Writing to a file. Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Ok; I am trying to save some data and write to a file while I ran simulation, is there any better way to do this in swarm. I would love to have an excel file, its easy for my people to use with. I remember there was some method for this in native java too but couldnt get exactly. And outputToFile() is of any use in this regard, if so anyone would let me know how? Thanks for any suggestions, Suman K ===== Suman Kanuganti, Swarm Group, Anth Dept., University of Missouri, Columbia. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com From opa04@yahoo.com Tue Jul 1 00:42:36 2003 Received: from web11404.mail.yahoo.com (web11404.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.234]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h617ga0B015677 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 00:42:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20030701074227.12779.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [193.174.53.122] by web11404.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 01 Jul 2003 00:42:27 PDT Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 00:42:27 -0700 (PDT) From: DAVID CAMACHO To: Support@swarm.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-102939901-1057045347=:8767" Subject: [Swarm-Support] Support Link unavailable. (FAQ) Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: --0-102939901-1057045347=:8767 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, I have obtain the new Swarm distribution hopping that I could install it under Win XP… (I said it before, it has preinstalled on my P.C. and for some other reasons is difficult for me to switch to Linux…) and I am trying to read the information related: · http://lark.cc.ukans.edu/~pauljohn/SwarmFaq/SwarmOnlineFaq.html#3.1 but site is unavailable since some weeks ago, can anybody send me the info, or fix that link? Regards David Camacho --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! --0-102939901-1057045347=:8767 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
 

Hi,

I have obtain the new Swarm distribution hopping that I could install it under Win XP…

(I said it before, it has preinstalled on my P.C. and for some other reasons is difficult for me to switch to Linux…) and I am trying to read the information related:

·         http://lark.cc.ukans.edu/~pauljohn/SwarmFaq/SwarmOnlineFaq.html#3.1

but site is unavailable since some weeks ago, can anybody send me the info, or fix that link?

Regards

David Camacho


Do you Yahoo!?
SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! --0-102939901-1057045347=:8767-- From mgd@santafe.edu Tue Jul 1 06:29:29 2003 Received: from cepheus.email.starband.net (cepheus.email.starband.net [148.78.247.123]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h61DTS0B020098 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 06:29:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from santafe.edu (vsat-148-64-12-3.c050.t7.mrt.starband.net [148.64.12.3]) by cepheus.email.starband.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h61DTTDK024329 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 09:29:36 -0400 Message-ID: <3F018DBB.3060108@santafe.edu> Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 07:33:47 -0600 From: "Marcus G. Daniels" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: support@swarm.org Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] Support Link unavailable. (FAQ) References: <20030701074227.12779.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20030701074227.12779.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: DAVID CAMACHO wrote: > I have obtain the new Swarm distribution hopping that I could install > it under Win XP… http://www.swarm.org/pipermail/support/2003-June/013581.html From pauljohn@ku.edu Tue Jul 1 06:42:10 2003 Received: from smtp.sunflower.com (smtp.sunflower.com [24.124.0.128]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h61Dg90B020150 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 06:42:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ku.edu (131.80.cm.sunflower.com [24.124.80.131]) by smtp.sunflower.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h61Dg8809697 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 08:42:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3F018F05.8090506@ku.edu> Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 08:39:17 -0500 From: Paul Johnson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030225 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: support@swarm.org Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] Support Link unavailable. (FAQ) References: <20030701074227.12779.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20030701074227.12779.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org X-Reply-To: pauljohn@ku.edu List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: That's my fault. IT is a fowarding problem. I don't know what is wrong, but will find out. The University changed its suffix from ukans.edu to ku.edu, then they asked us to put up stuff at www.ku.edu instead of the other machine. If you go directly to this: http://www.ku.edu/~pauljohn/SwarmFaq/SwarmOnlineFaq.html you will find it. I did just update the entry about WIndows after MGD's announcement yesterday, incidentally. Maybe one of you Web programmer types who reads this list can tell me this. In the old SwarmFaq directory, I put an index.shtml file that forwards people to the right place after 2 seconds delay: Swarm Online Faq This site is now at: http://www.ku.edu/~pauljohn/SwarmFaq You should see something shortly, but if you don't, click on the link. That worked for people who went to http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn/SwarmFaq But it did not work if people had stored links to specific files in there, such as the one David tried. Is there a way to make the forward work automatically for all files/subdirectories? So far all I figured was to sym link like ln -sf index.shtml SwarmOnlineFaq.html but I don't want to have to do that for every individual file and directory. pj DAVID CAMACHO wrote: > > > Hi, > > I have obtain the new Swarm distribution hopping that I could install it > under Win XP… > > (I said it before, it has preinstalled on my P.C. and for some other > reasons is difficult for me to switch to Linux…) and I am trying to read > the information related: > > · > http://lark.cc.ukans.edu/~pauljohn/SwarmFaq/SwarmOnlineFaq.html#3.1 > > but site is unavailable since some weeks ago, can anybody send me the > info, or fix that link? > > Regards > > David Camacho > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Do you Yahoo!? > SBC Yahoo! DSL > > - Now only $29.95 per month! -- Paul E. Johnson email: pauljohn@ukans.edu Dept. of Political Science http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn University of Kansas Office: (785) 864-9086 Lawrence, Kansas 66045 FAX: (785) 864-5700 From pauljohn@ku.edu Tue Jul 1 06:49:50 2003 Received: from smtp.sunflower.com (smtp.sunflower.com [24.124.0.128]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h61Dnn0B020218 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 06:49:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ku.edu (131.80.cm.sunflower.com [24.124.80.131]) by smtp.sunflower.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h61Dnm810388 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 08:49:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3F0190D1.4050902@ku.edu> Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 08:46:57 -0500 From: Paul Johnson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030225 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: support@swarm.org Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] Writing to a file. References: <20030701054114.65196.qmail@web13102.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20030701054114.65196.qmail@web13102.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org X-Reply-To: pauljohn@ku.edu List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: In http://ArtStkMkt.sourceforge.net, you can see how I write values out to text files and hdf5 files from EZGraphs. you could do some checking to see how to go from hdf5 to Excel, but the text files do go over fine. I'm not using java. I've been using a Perl module that can create Excel files from text files, you could also go that route. If you want, I could look up in CPAN. Suman Kanuganti wrote: > Ok; I am trying to save some data and write to a file > while I ran simulation, is there any better way to do > this in swarm. I would love to have an excel file, its > easy for my people to use with. > > I remember there was some method for this in native > java too but couldnt get exactly. > > And outputToFile() is of any use in this regard, if so > anyone would let me know how? > > Thanks for any suggestions, > Suman K > > ===== > Suman Kanuganti, > Swarm Group, Anth Dept., > University of Missouri, Columbia. > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > http://sbc.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Support mailing list > Support@swarm.org > http://www.swarm.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul E. Johnson email: pauljohn@ukans.edu Dept. of Political Science http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn University of Kansas Office: (785) 864-9086 Lawrence, Kansas 66045 FAX: (785) 864-5700 From lra@northcoast.com Tue Jul 1 07:41:30 2003 Received: from borg.inreach.com (mail.northcoast.com [209.142.2.71]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h61EfU0B020464 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 07:41:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 25847 invoked by uid 507); 1 Jul 2003 14:41:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO northcoast.com) (209.209.18.242) by mail.northcoast.com with SMTP; 1 Jul 2003 14:41:26 -0000 Message-ID: <3F019DC1.59664735@northcoast.com> Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 07:42:09 -0700 From: Steve Railsback X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en]C-CCK-MCD EZN/NS4 (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: support@swarm.org Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] Writing to a file. References: <20030701054114.65196.qmail@web13102.mail.yahoo.com> <3F0190D1.4050902@ku.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org X-Reply-To: lra@northcoast.com List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Also- We have a Swarm add-on called "BreakoutReporter" that writes output files of summary statistics, in a way they are easily imported into spreadsheets. Our code is in Objective-C but could easily be translated (let us know if you do!) to Java. See the "Software" page at http://math.humboldt.edu/EcoModeling Steve R. Paul Johnson wrote: > > In http://ArtStkMkt.sourceforge.net, you can see how I write values out > to text files and hdf5 files from EZGraphs. you could do some checking > to see how to go from hdf5 to Excel, but the text files do go over fine. > I'm not using java. I've been using a Perl module that can create Excel > files from text files, you could also go that route. If you want, I > could look up in CPAN. > > Suman Kanuganti wrote: > > Ok; I am trying to save some data and write to a file > > while I ran simulation, is there any better way to do > > this in swarm. I would love to have an excel file, its > > easy for my people to use with. From nick.collier@verizon.net Tue Jul 1 08:14:36 2003 Received: from pop018.verizon.net (pop018pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.212]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h61FEZ0B020667 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 08:14:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.11] ([141.157.5.99]) by pop018.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.33 201-253-122-126-133-20030313) with ESMTP id <20030701151426.ENDT11703.pop018.verizon.net@[192.168.2.11]> for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 10:14:26 -0500 Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] Writing to a file. From: Nick Collier To: support@swarm.org In-Reply-To: <20030701054114.65196.qmail@web13102.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20030701054114.65196.qmail@web13102.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1057072065.3682.25.camel@haputale> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 (1.2.2-5) Date: 01 Jul 2003 11:14:25 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at pop018.verizon.net from [141.157.5.99] at Tue, 1 Jul 2003 10:14:25 -0500 Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: If you are using Java, see the poi project which allows you to read / write directly to excel files. http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ Nick On Tue, 2003-07-01 at 01:41, Suman Kanuganti wrote: > Ok; I am trying to save some data and write to a file > while I ran simulation, is there any better way to do > this in swarm. I would love to have an excel file, its > easy for my people to use with. > > I remember there was some method for this in native > java too but couldnt get exactly. > > And outputToFile() is of any use in this regard, if so > anyone would let me know how? > > Thanks for any suggestions, > Suman K > > ===== > Suman Kanuganti, > Swarm Group, Anth Dept., > University of Missouri, Columbia. > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > http://sbc.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Support mailing list > Support@swarm.org > http://www.swarm.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Nick Collier From mujavaswarm@yahoo.com Tue Jul 1 08:36:14 2003 Received: from web13102.mail.yahoo.com (web13102.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.147]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h61FaD0B020780 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 08:36:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20030701153613.52624.qmail@web13102.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [128.206.118.4] by web13102.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 01 Jul 2003 08:36:13 PDT Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 08:36:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Suman Kanuganti Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] Writing to a file. To: support@swarm.org In-Reply-To: <3F0190D1.4050902@ku.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Thanks, you people are really helpfull. I shall try all these options and will post the outcome. Paul, I got the perl module for text 2 excel, thats fine. And also nick sent me the link for doing that from java. Thankyou. Suman K --- Paul Johnson wrote: > In http://ArtStkMkt.sourceforge.net, you can see how > I write values out > to text files and hdf5 files from EZGraphs. you > could do some checking > to see how to go from hdf5 to Excel, but the text > files do go over fine. > I'm not using java. I've been using a Perl module > that can create Excel > files from text files, you could also go that > route. If you want, I > could look up in CPAN. > > Suman Kanuganti wrote: > > Ok; I am trying to save some data and write to a > file > > while I ran simulation, is there any better way to > do > > this in swarm. I would love to have an excel file, > its > > easy for my people to use with. > > > > I remember there was some method for this in > native > > java too but couldnt get exactly. > > > > And outputToFile() is of any use in this regard, > if so > > anyone would let me know how? > > > > Thanks for any suggestions, > > Suman K > > > > ===== > > Suman Kanuganti, > > Swarm Group, Anth Dept., > > University of Missouri, Columbia. > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > > http://sbc.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Support mailing list > > Support@swarm.org > > http://www.swarm.org/mailman/listinfo/support > > > -- > Paul E. Johnson email: > pauljohn@ukans.edu > Dept. of Political Science > http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn > University of Kansas Office: (785) > 864-9086 > Lawrence, Kansas 66045 FAX: (785) > 864-5700 > > _______________________________________________ > Support mailing list > Support@swarm.org > http://www.swarm.org/mailman/listinfo/support ===== Suman Kanuganti, Swarm Group, Anth Dept., University of Missouri, Columbia. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com From matteo.morini@libero.it Wed Jul 2 05:04:22 2003 Received: from host84-67.pool8172.interbusiness.it (host84-67.pool8172.interbusiness.it [81.72.67.84]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h62C4L0B025837 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 05:04:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from libero.it (unknown [10.50.0.1]) by host84-67.pool8172.interbusiness.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3449627CB9 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 14:04:13 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3F02CA36.6070004@libero.it> Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 14:04:06 +0200 From: "Matteo Morini (Libero)" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: support@swarm.org Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] Support Link unavailable. (FAQ) References: <20030701074227.12779.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> <3F018F05.8090506@ku.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Paul, I have an Apache-specific (I was not able to identify the web server running at www.ku.edu, so it might be of no use to you) suggestion I've found somewhere some time ago. It is about putting something like: RewriteEngine On RewriteRule ^/~pauljohn/(.*) /redirect.shtml/$1 into Apache's httpd.conf (might imply pestering the sysadmin :-) ) redirect.shtml is supposed to be something like this: This page has moved ">

Your link is obsolete.

The new location is ">here. You will be redirected automatically in 5 seconds. Please update your bookmarks. Hope this helps. Ciao, Matteo Paul Johnson wrote: > That's my fault. IT is a fowarding problem. I don't know what is > wrong, but will find out. The University changed its suffix from > ukans.edu to ku.edu, then they asked us to put up stuff at www.ku.edu > instead of the other machine. > > If you go directly to this: > > http://www.ku.edu/~pauljohn/SwarmFaq/SwarmOnlineFaq.html > > you will find it. I did just update the entry about WIndows after MGD's > announcement yesterday, incidentally. > > Maybe one of you Web programmer types who reads this list can tell me > this. In the old SwarmFaq directory, I put an index.shtml file that > forwards people to the right place after 2 seconds delay: [snip] From sbhattac@engin.umich.edu Wed Jul 2 13:22:57 2003 Received: from ruby.engin.umich.edu (IDENT:pZ40pvopgcr4xM1x+R4T5fQuzPFVJzHB@ruby.engin.umich.edu [141.213.74.32]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h62KMu0B027988 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 13:22:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (IDENT:KBiL/WqxlSJ7KFZ/KL1zdfBvJld0kUMQ@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ruby.engin.umich.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h62KMqbT016020 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 16:22:56 -0400 Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 16:22:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Sudin Bhattacharya To: support@swarm.org In-Reply-To: <20030702190009.27625.92190.Mailman@tigger> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [Swarm-Support] Seg fault on Solaris with Probes Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, This is probably a known problem, but how do I avoid the segmentation fault I get whenever Probes are added to the ObserverSwarm (e.g. in Heatbugs) on Solaris? -Thanks Sudin Bhattacharya From aramos@insys-corp.com.mx Wed Jul 2 16:19:04 2003 Received: from dns.insys-corp.com.mx (cancerbero.insys-corp.com.mx [148.233.3.210]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h62NJ20B028802 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 16:19:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from osiris.insys-corp.com.mx by dns.insys-corp.com.mx via smtpd (for tigger.cbr.washington.edu [140.142.159.41]) with ESMTP; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 18:24:54 -0500 Received: by osiris with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <31KQZ48Q>; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 18:19:08 -0500 Message-ID: <6165AE08DEE5D51181C100508B559F122BC12E@mailvitoalessio.insys-corp.com.mx> From: Agustin Ramos Fonseca To: "Swarm support (E-mail)" Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 18:17:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tigger.cbr.washington.edu id h62NJ20B028802 Subject: [Swarm-Support] Error in install (RH 7.1) Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Hello. I'm new to Swarm and I tried to build the 2002-05-14 snapshot on a RedHat 7.1 system with gcc 2.96. After running configure, make fails with the following message /bin/sh ./libtool --mode=compile gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I/home/atrf/swarm-2002-05-14/libobjc -I. -I./objc -I/home/atrf/swarm-2002-05-14/libobjc/objc -I/home/atrf/swarm-2002-05-14/libobjc -DBUILDING_LIBOBJC -Wall -Werror -g -O2 -c -o NXConstStr.lo `test -f NXConstStr.m || echo '/home/atrf/swarm-2002-05-14/libobjc/'`NXConstStr.m mkdir .libs gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I/home/atrf/swarm-2002-05-14/libobjc -I. -I./objc -I/home/atrf/swarm-2002-05-14/libobjc/objc -I/home/atrf/swarm-2002-05-14/libobjc -DBUILDING_LIBOBJC -Wall -Werror -g -O2 -c NXConstStr.m -MT NXConstStr.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/NXConstStr.TPlo -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/NXConstStr.lo In file included from objc/Object.h:30, from objc/NXConstStr.h:31, from NXConstStr.m:28: objc/objc.h:152: conflicting types for `objc_msg_lookup' NXConstStr.m:27: previous declaration of `objc_msg_lookup' make[4]: *** [NXConstStr.lo] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/atrf/swarm-2002-05-14/libobjc' ... ... I'm new to Objective C, but the line NXConstStr.m:27: previous declaration of `objc_msg_lookup' is nonsense since line 27 in NXConstStr.m is blank and line 28 is the first line of code in the file. I noted make is trying to build the Objective C library, which is already installed in my system from the rpm. The installation files are /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/cc1obj /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/include /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/include/objc /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/include/objc/NXConstStr.h /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/include/objc/Object.h /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/include/objc/Protocol.h /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/include/objc/encoding.h /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/include/objc/hash.h /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/include/objc/objc-api.h /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/include/objc/objc-list.h /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/include/objc/objc.h /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/include/objc/sarray.h /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/include/objc/thr.h /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/include/objc/typedstream.h /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/libobjc.a /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/libobjc.la /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/libobjc.so /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/libobjc.so.1 /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/libobjc.so.1.0.0 /usr/lib/libobjc.so.1 /usr/lib/libobjc.so.1.0.0 Has anyone built this snapshot on RH 7.1? Could any one please give me some help? Thank you. Agustín T.Ramos Fonseca Software Engineer Insys S.A. de C.V. Phone: (55) 53225277 e-mail: aramos@insys-corp.com.mx http://www.insys-corp.com.mx From pauljohn@ku.edu Wed Jul 2 20:12:34 2003 Received: from smtp.sunflower.com (smtp.sunflower.com [24.124.0.128]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h633CX0B029710 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 20:12:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ku.edu (131.80.cm.sunflower.com [24.124.80.131]) by smtp.sunflower.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h633CW812387 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2003 22:12:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3F039E6B.7070406@ku.edu> Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 22:09:31 -0500 From: Paul Johnson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030225 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: support@swarm.org Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] Error in install (RH 7.1) References: <6165AE08DEE5D51181C100508B559F122BC12E@mailvitoalessio.insys-corp.com.mx> In-Reply-To: <6165AE08DEE5D51181C100508B559F122BC12E@mailvitoalessio.insys-corp.com.mx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org X-Reply-To: pauljohn@ku.edu List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: You are going to need gcc-3.0.4 or better. I'd recommend that you take the step of updating your RedHat to at least 7.3. 7.1 was a long time ago. I still have online notes from those days http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn/Swarm/Swarm-2.x_RPMSforRH7/ It reminds me of lots of hassles. If you make the minimal upgrade to RH 7.3 (it is free software, you know), then I have online RPMS for Swarm newer than the snap you are trying to build: http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn/Swarm/Swarm-2.2x_RPMSforRH7.3/swarm-2.1.143.20030512-1RH7.3.i386.rpm If you read that directory's header information, it has some crapola about gcc and j2sdk gyrations that can be used. I do have RPMs you can use for gcc in case you want to compile, but I don't think you should. I think you should try those RPMS. Last week I upgraded that system to RH9, so now all my systems are RH 9 and I'm not able to make any more RH7.3 RPMS. But if you upgrade to RH7.3, then you could! Agustin Ramos Fonseca wrote: > Hello. > > I'm new to Swarm and I tried to build the 2002-05-14 snapshot on a > RedHat 7.1 system with gcc 2.96. After running configure, make fails > with the following message > > /bin/sh ./libtool --mode=compile gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. > -I/home/atrf/swarm-2002-05-14/libobjc -I. -I./objc > -I/home/atrf/swarm-2002-05-14/libobjc/objc > -I/home/atrf/swarm-2002-05-14/libobjc -DBUILDING_LIBOBJC -Wall -Werror -g > -O2 -c -o NXConstStr.lo `test -f NXConstStr.m || echo > '/home/atrf/swarm-2002-05-14/libobjc/'`NXConstStr.m > mkdir .libs > gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I/home/atrf/swarm-2002-05-14/libobjc -I. -I./objc > -I/home/atrf/swarm-2002-05-14/libobjc/objc > -I/home/atrf/swarm-2002-05-14/libobjc -DBUILDING_LIBOBJC -Wall -Werror -g > -O2 -c NXConstStr.m -MT NXConstStr.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/NXConstStr.TPlo > -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/NXConstStr.lo > In file included from objc/Object.h:30, > from objc/NXConstStr.h:31, > from NXConstStr.m:28: > objc/objc.h:152: conflicting types for `objc_msg_lookup' > NXConstStr.m:27: previous declaration of `objc_msg_lookup' > make[4]: *** [NXConstStr.lo] Error 1 > make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/atrf/swarm-2002-05-14/libobjc' > ... > ... > > I'm new to Objective C, but the line > > NXConstStr.m:27: previous declaration of `objc_msg_lookup' > > is nonsense since line 27 in NXConstStr.m is blank and line 28 is the first > line > of code in the file. > I noted make is trying to build the Objective C library, which is already > installed in my system from the rpm. The installation files are > > /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/cc1obj > /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/include > /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/include/objc > /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/include/objc/NXConstStr.h > /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/include/objc/Object.h > /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/include/objc/Protocol.h > /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/include/objc/encoding.h > /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/include/objc/hash.h > /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/include/objc/objc-api.h > /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/include/objc/objc-list.h > /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/include/objc/objc.h > /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/include/objc/sarray.h > /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/include/objc/thr.h > /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/include/objc/typedstream.h > /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/libobjc.a > /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/libobjc.la > /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/libobjc.so > /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/libobjc.so.1 > /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/libobjc.so.1.0.0 > /usr/lib/libobjc.so.1 > /usr/lib/libobjc.so.1.0.0 > > Has anyone built this snapshot on RH 7.1? > Could any one please give me some help? > > Thank you. > > Agustín T.Ramos Fonseca > Software Engineer > Insys S.A. de C.V. > Phone: (55) 53225277 > e-mail: aramos@insys-corp.com.mx > http://www.insys-corp.com.mx > > _______________________________________________ > Support mailing list > Support@swarm.org > http://www.swarm.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul E. Johnson email: pauljohn@ukans.edu Dept. of Political Science http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn University of Kansas Office: (785) 864-9086 Lawrence, Kansas 66045 FAX: (785) 864-5700 From petersja@gmx.at Thu Jul 3 04:14:02 2003 Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h63BE00B001584 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 04:14:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 6401 invoked by uid 65534); 3 Jul 2003 11:13:54 -0000 Received: from arcss01.arcs.ac.at (EHLO tecra8000) (62.218.164.126) by mail.gmx.net (mp003) with SMTP; 03 Jul 2003 13:13:54 +0200 Message-ID: <001501c34153$aa330ff0$7edc18ac@arcs.ac.at> From: "Jan Peters" To: References: <6165AE08DEE5D51181C100508B559F122BC12E@mailvitoalessio.insys-corp.com.mx> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 13:10:08 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01C34164.6D494800" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: [Swarm-Support] Swarm-2.2 pretest6 native code error Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C34164.6D494800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I just encountered the following error on a Windows 2000 System running a simple Java program in Swarm (SimpleJavaBug2): An unexpected exception has been detected in native code outside the VM. Unexpected Signal : EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION occurred at PC=0x1005C8AB Function=i_Discrete2d__putValue_atX_Y_+0x1B Library=C:\Swarm-2.2\bin\javaswarm.dll Current Java thread: at swarm.space.Discrete2dImpl.putValue$atX$Y(Native Method) at FoodSpace.seedFoodWithProb(FoodSpace.java:39) at StartSimpleBug2.main(StartSimpleBug2.java:44) Dynamic libraries: 0x00400000 - 0x00406000 c:\j2sdk1.4.1_02\bin\java.exe 0x77F80000 - 0x77FFF000 C:\WINNT\System32\ntdll.dll 0x77DA0000 - 0x77DFA000 C:\WINNT\system32\ADVAPI32.dll 0x77E70000 - 0x77F33000 C:\WINNT\system32\KERNEL32.DLL 0x77D30000 - 0x77D9F000 C:\WINNT\system32\RPCRT4.DLL 0x78000000 - 0x78046000 C:\WINNT\system32\MSVCRT.dll 0x6D340000 - 0x6D46A000 c:\j2sdk1.4.1_02\jre\bin\client\jvm.dll 0x77E00000 - 0x77E65000 C:\WINNT\system32\USER32.dll 0x77F40000 - 0x77F7C000 C:\WINNT\system32\GDI32.DLL 0x77540000 - 0x77571000 C:\WINNT\System32\WINMM.dll 0x68010000 - 0x68017000 C:\WINNT\System32\serwvdrv.dll 0x665A0000 - 0x665A7000 C:\WINNT\System32\umdmxfrm.dll 0x6D1E0000 - 0x6D1E7000 c:\j2sdk1.4.1_02\jre\bin\hpi.dll 0x6D310000 - 0x6D31E000 c:\j2sdk1.4.1_02\jre\bin\verify.dll 0x6D220000 - 0x6D239000 c:\j2sdk1.4.1_02\jre\bin\java.dll 0x6D330000 - 0x6D33D000 c:\j2sdk1.4.1_02\jre\bin\zip.dll 0x10000000 - 0x10AA0000 C:\Swarm-2.2\bin\javaswarm.dll 0x60540000 - 0x605EF000 c:\Swarm-2.2\bin\BLT24.dll 0x61000000 - 0x6113C000 C:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll 0x66000000 - 0x66065000 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtcl80.dll 0x66300000 - 0x663B2000 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtk80.dll 0x76B00000 - 0x76B3F000 C:\WINNT\system32\COMDLG32.DLL 0x70BD0000 - 0x70C34000 C:\WINNT\system32\SHLWAPI.DLL 0x71780000 - 0x7180A000 C:\WINNT\system32\COMCTL32.DLL 0x77580000 - 0x777C6000 C:\WINNT\system32\SHELL32.DLL 0x777F0000 - 0x7780D000 C:\WINNT\System32\WINSPOOL.DRV 0x0AC50000 - 0x0AC7F000 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng2.dll 0x0AC80000 - 0x0AC91000 C:\cygwin\bin\cygz.dll 0x6E330000 - 0x6E336000 C:\WINNT\System32\INDICDLL.dll 0x75DF0000 - 0x75E0A000 C:\WINNT\System32\IMM32.dll 0x77910000 - 0x77932000 C:\WINNT\system32\imagehlp.dll 0x72970000 - 0x7299D000 C:\WINNT\system32\DBGHELP.dll 0x68F30000 - 0x68F3B000 C:\WINNT\System32\PSAPI.DLL Local Time = Thu Jul 03 12:39:55 2003 Elapsed Time = 9 # # The exception above was detected in native code outside the VM # # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (1.4.1_02-b06 mixed mode) # # An error report file has been saved as hs_err_pid1092.log. # Please refer to the file for further information. Is this an error in my code or within the Swarm environment? Maybe a hardware problem? Source code attached. BTW: jheatbugs, Kenge etc. run fine. 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Here they are. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Peters" To: Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 1:10 PM Subject: [Swarm-Support] Swarm-2.2 pretest6 native code error > Hello, > > I just encountered the following error on a Windows 2000 System running a > simple Java program in Swarm (SimpleJavaBug2): > > An unexpected exception has been detected in native code outside the VM. > Unexpected Signal : EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION occurred at PC=0x1005C8AB > Function=i_Discrete2d__putValue_atX_Y_+0x1B > Library=C:\Swarm-2.2\bin\javaswarm.dll > Current Java thread: > at swarm.space.Discrete2dImpl.putValue$atX$Y(Native Method) > at FoodSpace.seedFoodWithProb(FoodSpace.java:39) > at StartSimpleBug2.main(StartSimpleBug2.java:44) > Dynamic libraries: > 0x00400000 - 0x00406000 c:\j2sdk1.4.1_02\bin\java.exe > 0x77F80000 - 0x77FFF000 C:\WINNT\System32\ntdll.dll > 0x77DA0000 - 0x77DFA000 C:\WINNT\system32\ADVAPI32.dll > 0x77E70000 - 0x77F33000 C:\WINNT\system32\KERNEL32.DLL > 0x77D30000 - 0x77D9F000 C:\WINNT\system32\RPCRT4.DLL > 0x78000000 - 0x78046000 C:\WINNT\system32\MSVCRT.dll > 0x6D340000 - 0x6D46A000 c:\j2sdk1.4.1_02\jre\bin\client\jvm.dll > 0x77E00000 - 0x77E65000 C:\WINNT\system32\USER32.dll > 0x77F40000 - 0x77F7C000 C:\WINNT\system32\GDI32.DLL > 0x77540000 - 0x77571000 C:\WINNT\System32\WINMM.dll > 0x68010000 - 0x68017000 C:\WINNT\System32\serwvdrv.dll > 0x665A0000 - 0x665A7000 C:\WINNT\System32\umdmxfrm.dll > 0x6D1E0000 - 0x6D1E7000 c:\j2sdk1.4.1_02\jre\bin\hpi.dll > 0x6D310000 - 0x6D31E000 c:\j2sdk1.4.1_02\jre\bin\verify.dll > 0x6D220000 - 0x6D239000 c:\j2sdk1.4.1_02\jre\bin\java.dll > 0x6D330000 - 0x6D33D000 c:\j2sdk1.4.1_02\jre\bin\zip.dll > 0x10000000 - 0x10AA0000 C:\Swarm-2.2\bin\javaswarm.dll > 0x60540000 - 0x605EF000 c:\Swarm-2.2\bin\BLT24.dll > 0x61000000 - 0x6113C000 C:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll > 0x66000000 - 0x66065000 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtcl80.dll > 0x66300000 - 0x663B2000 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtk80.dll > 0x76B00000 - 0x76B3F000 C:\WINNT\system32\COMDLG32.DLL > 0x70BD0000 - 0x70C34000 C:\WINNT\system32\SHLWAPI.DLL > 0x71780000 - 0x7180A000 C:\WINNT\system32\COMCTL32.DLL > 0x77580000 - 0x777C6000 C:\WINNT\system32\SHELL32.DLL > 0x777F0000 - 0x7780D000 C:\WINNT\System32\WINSPOOL.DRV > 0x0AC50000 - 0x0AC7F000 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng2.dll > 0x0AC80000 - 0x0AC91000 C:\cygwin\bin\cygz.dll > 0x6E330000 - 0x6E336000 C:\WINNT\System32\INDICDLL.dll > 0x75DF0000 - 0x75E0A000 C:\WINNT\System32\IMM32.dll > 0x77910000 - 0x77932000 C:\WINNT\system32\imagehlp.dll > 0x72970000 - 0x7299D000 C:\WINNT\system32\DBGHELP.dll > 0x68F30000 - 0x68F3B000 C:\WINNT\System32\PSAPI.DLL > Local Time = Thu Jul 03 12:39:55 2003 > Elapsed Time = 9 > # > # The exception above was detected in native code outside the VM > # > # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (1.4.1_02-b06 mixed mode) > # > # An error report file has been saved as hs_err_pid1092.log. > # Please refer to the file for further information. > Is this an error in my code or within the Swarm environment? 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James PS it is a policy on the swarm mailing lists to not post attachments but rather make them available via a website and direct interested people to it. This is to prevent people having to waste bandwidth downloading something that may not be of interest to them. --- Dr James A R Marshall Complex Systems Modelling Group (COSMIC) Department of Earth Science and Engineering Imperial College London Tel: +44 (0)20 7594 7493 Fax: +44 (0)20 7594 7444 Container World Project - http://www.ese.ic.ac.uk/research/containerworld/ -----Original Message----- From: Jan Peters [mailto:petersja@gmx.at] Sent: 03 July 2003 12:29 To: support@swarm.org Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] Swarm-2.2 pretest6 native code error Sorry, too busy to zip the correct files it seems... Here they are. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Peters" To: Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 1:10 PM Subject: [Swarm-Support] Swarm-2.2 pretest6 native code error > Hello, > > I just encountered the following error on a Windows 2000 System running a > simple Java program in Swarm (SimpleJavaBug2): > > An unexpected exception has been detected in native code outside the VM. > Unexpected Signal : EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION occurred at PC=0x1005C8AB > Function=i_Discrete2d__putValue_atX_Y_+0x1B > Library=C:\Swarm-2.2\bin\javaswarm.dll > Current Java thread: > at swarm.space.Discrete2dImpl.putValue$atX$Y(Native Method) > at FoodSpace.seedFoodWithProb(FoodSpace.java:39) > at StartSimpleBug2.main(StartSimpleBug2.java:44) > Dynamic libraries: > 0x00400000 - 0x00406000 c:\j2sdk1.4.1_02\bin\java.exe > 0x77F80000 - 0x77FFF000 C:\WINNT\System32\ntdll.dll > 0x77DA0000 - 0x77DFA000 C:\WINNT\system32\ADVAPI32.dll > 0x77E70000 - 0x77F33000 C:\WINNT\system32\KERNEL32.DLL > 0x77D30000 - 0x77D9F000 C:\WINNT\system32\RPCRT4.DLL > 0x78000000 - 0x78046000 C:\WINNT\system32\MSVCRT.dll > 0x6D340000 - 0x6D46A000 c:\j2sdk1.4.1_02\jre\bin\client\jvm.dll > 0x77E00000 - 0x77E65000 C:\WINNT\system32\USER32.dll > 0x77F40000 - 0x77F7C000 C:\WINNT\system32\GDI32.DLL > 0x77540000 - 0x77571000 C:\WINNT\System32\WINMM.dll > 0x68010000 - 0x68017000 C:\WINNT\System32\serwvdrv.dll > 0x665A0000 - 0x665A7000 C:\WINNT\System32\umdmxfrm.dll > 0x6D1E0000 - 0x6D1E7000 c:\j2sdk1.4.1_02\jre\bin\hpi.dll > 0x6D310000 - 0x6D31E000 c:\j2sdk1.4.1_02\jre\bin\verify.dll > 0x6D220000 - 0x6D239000 c:\j2sdk1.4.1_02\jre\bin\java.dll > 0x6D330000 - 0x6D33D000 c:\j2sdk1.4.1_02\jre\bin\zip.dll > 0x10000000 - 0x10AA0000 C:\Swarm-2.2\bin\javaswarm.dll > 0x60540000 - 0x605EF000 c:\Swarm-2.2\bin\BLT24.dll > 0x61000000 - 0x6113C000 C:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll > 0x66000000 - 0x66065000 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtcl80.dll > 0x66300000 - 0x663B2000 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtk80.dll > 0x76B00000 - 0x76B3F000 C:\WINNT\system32\COMDLG32.DLL > 0x70BD0000 - 0x70C34000 C:\WINNT\system32\SHLWAPI.DLL > 0x71780000 - 0x7180A000 C:\WINNT\system32\COMCTL32.DLL > 0x77580000 - 0x777C6000 C:\WINNT\system32\SHELL32.DLL > 0x777F0000 - 0x7780D000 C:\WINNT\System32\WINSPOOL.DRV > 0x0AC50000 - 0x0AC7F000 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng2.dll > 0x0AC80000 - 0x0AC91000 C:\cygwin\bin\cygz.dll > 0x6E330000 - 0x6E336000 C:\WINNT\System32\INDICDLL.dll > 0x75DF0000 - 0x75E0A000 C:\WINNT\System32\IMM32.dll > 0x77910000 - 0x77932000 C:\WINNT\system32\imagehlp.dll > 0x72970000 - 0x7299D000 C:\WINNT\system32\DBGHELP.dll > 0x68F30000 - 0x68F3B000 C:\WINNT\System32\PSAPI.DLL > Local Time = Thu Jul 03 12:39:55 2003 > Elapsed Time = 9 > # > # The exception above was detected in native code outside the VM > # > # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (1.4.1_02-b06 mixed mode) > # > # An error report file has been saved as hs_err_pid1092.log. > # Please refer to the file for further information. > Is this an error in my code or within the Swarm environment? Maybe a > hardware problem? > Source code attached. > > BTW: jheatbugs, Kenge etc. run fine. > > Greetings > > Jan > From petersja@gmx.at Thu Jul 3 04:51:21 2003 Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h63BpK0B001799 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 04:51:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 8335 invoked by uid 65534); 3 Jul 2003 11:51:14 -0000 Received: from arcss01.arcs.ac.at (EHLO tecra8000) (62.218.164.126) by mail.gmx.net (mp004) with SMTP; 03 Jul 2003 13:51:14 +0200 Message-ID: <003e01c34158$e1847e30$7edc18ac@arcs.ac.at> From: "Jan Peters" To: References: <2EDAF6DC7CE9D4118D4C00508BAED3150FE4D6FE@icex3.cc.ic.ac.uk> Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] Swarm-2.2 pretest6 native code error Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 13:47:28 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: James, thank you for the advice. I forgot about that. And I will check the bounds. Greetings Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marshall, James A R" To: Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 1:42 PM Subject: RE: [Swarm-Support] Swarm-2.2 pretest6 native code error > Jan, > without looking at your code I suspect that you are trying to access a > grid cell that does not exist (i.e. the parameters you are supplying to > putValue$atX$Y are out of range. > James > PS it is a policy on the swarm mailing lists to not post attachments but > rather make them available via a website and direct interested people to it. > This is to prevent people having to waste bandwidth downloading something > that may not be of interest to them. > > --- > Dr James A R Marshall > Complex Systems Modelling Group (COSMIC) > Department of Earth Science and Engineering > Imperial College London > Tel: +44 (0)20 7594 7493 > Fax: +44 (0)20 7594 7444 > Container World Project - http://www.ese.ic.ac.uk/research/containerworld/ > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jan Peters [mailto:petersja@gmx.at] > Sent: 03 July 2003 12:29 > To: support@swarm.org > Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] Swarm-2.2 pretest6 native code error > > > Sorry, > > too busy to zip the correct files it seems... > > Here they are. > > Jan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jan Peters" > To: > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 1:10 PM > Subject: [Swarm-Support] Swarm-2.2 pretest6 native code error > > > > Hello, > > > > I just encountered the following error on a Windows 2000 System running a > > simple Java program in Swarm (SimpleJavaBug2): > > > > An unexpected exception has been detected in native code outside the VM. > > Unexpected Signal : EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION occurred at PC=0x1005C8AB > > Function=i_Discrete2d__putValue_atX_Y_+0x1B > > Library=C:\Swarm-2.2\bin\javaswarm.dll > > Current Java thread: > > at swarm.space.Discrete2dImpl.putValue$atX$Y(Native Method) > > at FoodSpace.seedFoodWithProb(FoodSpace.java:39) > > at StartSimpleBug2.main(StartSimpleBug2.java:44) > > Dynamic libraries: > > 0x00400000 - 0x00406000 c:\j2sdk1.4.1_02\bin\java.exe > > 0x77F80000 - 0x77FFF000 C:\WINNT\System32\ntdll.dll > > 0x77DA0000 - 0x77DFA000 C:\WINNT\system32\ADVAPI32.dll > > 0x77E70000 - 0x77F33000 C:\WINNT\system32\KERNEL32.DLL > > 0x77D30000 - 0x77D9F000 C:\WINNT\system32\RPCRT4.DLL > > 0x78000000 - 0x78046000 C:\WINNT\system32\MSVCRT.dll > > 0x6D340000 - 0x6D46A000 c:\j2sdk1.4.1_02\jre\bin\client\jvm.dll > > 0x77E00000 - 0x77E65000 C:\WINNT\system32\USER32.dll > > 0x77F40000 - 0x77F7C000 C:\WINNT\system32\GDI32.DLL > > 0x77540000 - 0x77571000 C:\WINNT\System32\WINMM.dll > > 0x68010000 - 0x68017000 C:\WINNT\System32\serwvdrv.dll > > 0x665A0000 - 0x665A7000 C:\WINNT\System32\umdmxfrm.dll > > 0x6D1E0000 - 0x6D1E7000 c:\j2sdk1.4.1_02\jre\bin\hpi.dll > > 0x6D310000 - 0x6D31E000 c:\j2sdk1.4.1_02\jre\bin\verify.dll > > 0x6D220000 - 0x6D239000 c:\j2sdk1.4.1_02\jre\bin\java.dll > > 0x6D330000 - 0x6D33D000 c:\j2sdk1.4.1_02\jre\bin\zip.dll > > 0x10000000 - 0x10AA0000 C:\Swarm-2.2\bin\javaswarm.dll > > 0x60540000 - 0x605EF000 c:\Swarm-2.2\bin\BLT24.dll > > 0x61000000 - 0x6113C000 C:\cygwin\bin\cygwin1.dll > > 0x66000000 - 0x66065000 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtcl80.dll > > 0x66300000 - 0x663B2000 C:\cygwin\bin\cygtk80.dll > > 0x76B00000 - 0x76B3F000 C:\WINNT\system32\COMDLG32.DLL > > 0x70BD0000 - 0x70C34000 C:\WINNT\system32\SHLWAPI.DLL > > 0x71780000 - 0x7180A000 C:\WINNT\system32\COMCTL32.DLL > > 0x77580000 - 0x777C6000 C:\WINNT\system32\SHELL32.DLL > > 0x777F0000 - 0x7780D000 C:\WINNT\System32\WINSPOOL.DRV > > 0x0AC50000 - 0x0AC7F000 C:\cygwin\bin\cygpng2.dll > > 0x0AC80000 - 0x0AC91000 C:\cygwin\bin\cygz.dll > > 0x6E330000 - 0x6E336000 C:\WINNT\System32\INDICDLL.dll > > 0x75DF0000 - 0x75E0A000 C:\WINNT\System32\IMM32.dll > > 0x77910000 - 0x77932000 C:\WINNT\system32\imagehlp.dll > > 0x72970000 - 0x7299D000 C:\WINNT\system32\DBGHELP.dll > > 0x68F30000 - 0x68F3B000 C:\WINNT\System32\PSAPI.DLL > > Local Time = Thu Jul 03 12:39:55 2003 > > Elapsed Time = 9 > > # > > # The exception above was detected in native code outside the VM > > # > > # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (1.4.1_02-b06 mixed mode) > > # > > # An error report file has been saved as hs_err_pid1092.log. > > # Please refer to the file for further information. > > Is this an error in my code or within the Swarm environment? Maybe a > > hardware problem? > > Source code attached. > > > > BTW: jheatbugs, Kenge etc. run fine. > > > > Greetings > > > > Jan > > > _______________________________________________ > Support mailing list > Support@swarm.org > http://www.swarm.org/mailman/listinfo/support > From aramos@insys-corp.com.mx Thu Jul 3 08:02:59 2003 Received: from dns.insys-corp.com.mx (cancerbero.insys-corp.com.mx [148.233.3.210]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h63F2v0B002577 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 08:02:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from osiris.insys-corp.com.mx by dns.insys-corp.com.mx via smtpd (for tigger.cbr.washington.edu [140.142.159.41]) with ESMTP; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 10:08:50 -0500 Received: by osiris with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <3GJ9K6FS>; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 10:03:02 -0500 Message-ID: <6165AE08DEE5D51181C100508B559F122BC130@mailvitoalessio.insys-corp.com.mx> From: Agustin Ramos Fonseca To: "'support@swarm.org'" Subject: RE: [Swarm-Support] Error in install (RH 7.1) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 10:01:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tigger.cbr.washington.edu id h63F2v0B002577 Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Thank you for your advise. I'd like to know where I can get the swarm 2.1.143.20030512 sources, I looked for them at ftp://ftp.swarm.org/pub/swarm/src/testing/ but they aren't there. I'll try to upgrade my RH to 7.3 but I think my old PC won't support it (mainly because disk space, all rpm updates are disk consuming) I'm interested in the sources because I'm interested in modelling and in the inner workings of this tool. So I'll try to build the sources. Thanks again Agustín T.Ramos Fonseca Software Engineer Insys S.A. de C.V. Phone: (55) 53225277 e-mail: aramos@insys-corp.com.mx http://www.insys-corp.com.mx >-----Original Message----- >From: Paul Johnson [mailto:pauljohn@ku.edu] >Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 10:10 PM >To: support@swarm.org >Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] Error in install (RH 7.1) > > >You are going to need gcc-3.0.4 or better. I'd recommend that >you take >the step of updating your RedHat to at least 7.3. > >7.1 was a long time ago. I still have online notes from those days > >http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn/Swarm/Swarm-2.x_RPMSforRH7/ > >It reminds me of lots of hassles. > >If you make the minimal upgrade to RH 7.3 (it is free software, you >know), then I have online RPMS for Swarm newer than the snap you are >trying to build: > >http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn/Swarm/Swarm-2.2x_RPMSforRH7.3/s >warm-2.1.143.20030512-1RH7.3.i386.rpm > >If you read that directory's header information, it has some crapola >about gcc and j2sdk gyrations that can be used. I do have >RPMs you can >use for gcc in case you want to compile, but I don't think you >should. I >think you should try those RPMS. > >Last week I upgraded that system to RH9, so now all my systems >are RH 9 >and I'm not able to make any more RH7.3 RPMS. But if you upgrade to >RH7.3, then you could! > >Agustin Ramos Fonseca wrote: >> Hello. >> >> I'm new to Swarm and I tried to build the 2002-05-14 snapshot on a >> RedHat 7.1 system with gcc 2.96. After running configure, make fails >> with the following message >> >> /bin/sh ./libtool --mode=compile gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. >> -I/home/atrf/swarm-2002-05-14/libobjc -I. -I./objc >> -I/home/atrf/swarm-2002-05-14/libobjc/objc >> -I/home/atrf/swarm-2002-05-14/libobjc -DBUILDING_LIBOBJC >-Wall -Werror -g >> -O2 -c -o NXConstStr.lo `test -f NXConstStr.m || echo >> '/home/atrf/swarm-2002-05-14/libobjc/'`NXConstStr.m >> mkdir .libs >> gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. >-I/home/atrf/swarm-2002-05-14/libobjc -I. -I./objc >> -I/home/atrf/swarm-2002-05-14/libobjc/objc >> -I/home/atrf/swarm-2002-05-14/libobjc -DBUILDING_LIBOBJC >-Wall -Werror -g >> -O2 -c NXConstStr.m -MT NXConstStr.lo -MD -MP -MF >.deps/NXConstStr.TPlo >> -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/NXConstStr.lo >> In file included from objc/Object.h:30, >> from objc/NXConstStr.h:31, >> from NXConstStr.m:28: >> objc/objc.h:152: conflicting types for `objc_msg_lookup' >> NXConstStr.m:27: previous declaration of `objc_msg_lookup' >> make[4]: *** [NXConstStr.lo] Error 1 >> make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/atrf/swarm-2002-05-14/libobjc' >> ... >> ... >> >> I'm new to Objective C, but the line >> >> NXConstStr.m:27: previous declaration of `objc_msg_lookup' >> >> is nonsense since line 27 in NXConstStr.m is blank and line >28 is the first >> line >> of code in the file. >> I noted make is trying to build the Objective C library, >which is already >> installed in my system from the rpm. The installation files are >> >> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/cc1obj >> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/include >> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/include/objc >> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/include/objc/NXConstStr.h >> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/include/objc/Object.h >> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/include/objc/Protocol.h >> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/include/objc/encoding.h >> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/include/objc/hash.h >> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/include/objc/objc-api.h >> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/include/objc/objc-list.h >> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/include/objc/objc.h >> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/include/objc/sarray.h >> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/include/objc/thr.h >> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/include/objc/typedstream.h >> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/libobjc.a >> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/libobjc.la >> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/libobjc.so >> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/libobjc.so.1 >> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/libobjc.so.1.0.0 >> /usr/lib/libobjc.so.1 >> /usr/lib/libobjc.so.1.0.0 >> >> Has anyone built this snapshot on RH 7.1? >> Could any one please give me some help? >> >> Thank you. >> >> Agustín T.Ramos Fonseca >> Software Engineer >> Insys S.A. de C.V. >> Phone: (55) 53225277 >> e-mail: aramos@insys-corp.com.mx >> http://www.insys-corp.com.mx >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support mailing list >> Support@swarm.org >> http://www.swarm.org/mailman/listinfo/support > > >-- >Paul E. Johnson email: pauljohn@ukans.edu >Dept. of Political Science http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn >University of Kansas Office: (785) 864-9086 >Lawrence, Kansas 66045 FAX: (785) 864-5700 > >_______________________________________________ >Support mailing list >Support@swarm.org >http://www.swarm.org/mailman/listinfo/support > From Konrad_Richter@mckinsey.com Fri Jul 4 05:29:00 2003 Received: from na-mailer02.mckinsey.com (mailer02.mckinsey.com [157.191.3.31]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h64CSw0B007284 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 05:28:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from na-gateways02.notes.mckinsey.com (na-gateways02.mckinsey.com [157.191.168.25]) by na-mailer02.mckinsey.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h64CSsmi005173 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2003 08:28:56 -0400 Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] question To: support@swarm.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: Konrad_Richter@mckinsey.com Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 14:22:24 +0200 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on NA-Gateways02/NorthAmerica/MCKINSEY(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 07/04/2003 08:28:57 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=C1256D59004363AD8f9e8a93df938690918cC1256D59004363AD" Content-Disposition: inline Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: --0__=C1256D59004363AD8f9e8a93df938690918cC1256D59004363AD Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dear Gregorie, I think, the solution to your problem would be to run the program in batch-modus. Therefore, you have to build an additional layer, (experSwarm.m and experSwarm.h) that takes care that the program is run consecutive times (e.g., with changed initializations fot eh random seed). Implementation is e.g. explained in the tutorial by Lars-Erik and Benedict. I am attaching the relevant chapter. Regards, Konrad (See attached file: lecture09.ppt) |--------+----------------------------> | | "Gregoire | | | Boutonnet" | | | | | | Sent by: | | | support-admin@swa| | | rm.org | | | 30.06.2003 13:14 | | | Please respond to| | | support | | | | |--------+----------------------------> >-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | | To: | | cc: (bcc: Konrad Richter/VIE/Europe/MCKINSEY) | | Subject: [Swarm-Support] question | >-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| Hi, I try to use Swarm since two months and I am happy about the results. But I would like to execute my program a lot of time withe the same initial values without to click on the START button before each loop. Is it possible ? Because when you want to execute a simulation you have to click the START button and the progrm built the objects and execute the actions. In my case objects and actions are the same for each loop of simulation and it will be better if I don't have to click the START button before each run. Thanks a lot for your answer. Regards gregoire BOUTONNET _______________________________________________ Support mailing list Support@swarm.org http://www.swarm.org/mailman/listinfo/support +---------------------------------------------------------+ This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. 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rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030225 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: support@swarm.org Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] Error in install (RH 7.1) References: <6165AE08DEE5D51181C100508B559F122BC130@mailvitoalessio.insys-corp.com.mx> In-Reply-To: <6165AE08DEE5D51181C100508B559F122BC130@mailvitoalessio.insys-corp.com.mx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org X-Reply-To: pauljohn@ku.edu List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: au contraire! I have put both swarm-2.1.143 and 2.1.145 up there some time ago. Although the swarm link to the ftp server won't let me in now, I can get there from ftp://ftp.santafe.edu/pub/swarm/src/testing. Agustin Ramos Fonseca wrote: > Thank you for your advise. > > I'd like to know where I can get the swarm 2.1.143.20030512 sources, > I looked for them at > ftp://ftp.swarm.org/pub/swarm/src/testing/ > but they aren't there. > > I'll try to upgrade my RH to 7.3 but I think my old PC won't support it > (mainly because disk space, all rpm updates are disk consuming) > > I'm interested in the sources because I'm interested in modelling and > in the inner workings of this tool. So I'll try to build the sources. > > Thanks again > > Agustín T.Ramos Fonseca -- Paul E. Johnson email: pauljohn@ukans.edu Dept. of Political Science http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn University of Kansas Office: (785) 864-9086 Lawrence, Kansas 66045 FAX: (785) 864-5700 From its_a_steggles@hotmail.com Sat Jul 5 10:07:47 2003 Received: from hotmail.com (law11-f23.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.23]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h65H7l0B013982 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 10:07:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 10:06:09 -0700 Received: from 194.94.206.10 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 05 Jul 2003 17:06:09 GMT X-Originating-IP: [194.94.206.10] X-Originating-Email: [its_a_steggles@hotmail.com] From: "Andreas Chai" To: support@swarm.org Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2003 03:06:09 +1000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jul 2003 17:06:09.0486 (UTC) FILETIME=[BADCFEE0:01C34317] Subject: [Swarm-Support] question concerning installing swarm Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive:

Hello and thank you for you time
 
i tried to install swarm on windows 2000 professional (without using emacs) and kept getting the following erroe:
 
error installing ikernel.exe: (0xa00).
 
any idea how i can get around this ?
 
thanks
 
andreas


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From pauljohn@ku.edu Sat Jul 5 10:31:44 2003 Received: from smtp.sunflower.com (smtp.sunflower.com [24.124.0.128]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h65HVh0B014110 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 10:31:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ku.edu (131.80.cm.sunflower.com [24.124.80.131]) by smtp.sunflower.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h65HVe805583 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 12:31:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3F070AB5.9030609@ku.edu> Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2003 12:28:21 -0500 From: Paul Johnson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030225 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: support@swarm.org Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] question concerning installing swarm References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org X-Reply-To: pauljohn@ku.edu List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: check the swarm faq, which is now at http://www.ku.edu/~pauljohn/SwarmFaq/SwarmOnlineFaq.html The old link should still work, but the new thing seems to be OK too. That tells what's up with Windows now and how you should ask for help if you need it. Andreas Chai wrote: > Hello and thank you for you time > > i tried to install swarm on windows 2000 professional (without using > emacs) and kept getting the following erroe: > > error installing ikernel.exe: (0xa00). > > any idea how i can get around this ? > > thanks > > andreas > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Hotmail now available on Australian mobile phones. Click here for more. > > _______________________________________________ Support mailing list > Support@swarm.org http://www.swarm.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul E. Johnson email: pauljohn@ukans.edu Dept. of Political Science http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn University of Kansas Office: (785) 864-9086 Lawrence, Kansas 66045 FAX: (785) 864-5700 From eiji@atr.co.jp Mon Jul 7 21:41:57 2003 Received: from mailgw2.atr.co.jp (ns2w.atr.co.jp [133.186.1.11]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h684fq0B027514 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 21:41:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vcms.atr.co.jp (epsilon.atr.co.jp [133.186.254.10]) by mailgw2.atr.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9178418B39 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 13:41:34 +0900 (JST) Received: from emperor.his.atr.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vcms.atr.co.jp (Postfix) with SMTP id 98D8E39796 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 13:41:29 +0900 (JST) Received: (qmail 24632 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 13:42:12 +0900 Received: from fortune.his.atr.co.jp (HELO localhost) (133.186.80.76) by emperor.his.atr.co.jp with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 13:42:12 +0900 Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 13:41:25 -0900 (GMT+9) Message-Id: <20030708.134125.59667858.eiji@atr.co.jp> To: support@swarm.org From: Norberto Eiji Nawa X-Mailer: Mew version 3.2 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Swarm-Support] Problem with package hdf5-1.4.7 in R-1.7.1 Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: (I posted this to r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch; since the HDF5 package for R was born within the swarm community (thanks, Marcus!) I thought I should give it a try here as well. E.) Hello: Has anyone successfully installed the package hdf5-1.4.7 in R version 1.7.1? I get a fatal error with a core dump (see below) whenever I try to use hdf5load. Since I'm in the process of moving to a new machine, I'm not sure whether this is due to (my installations of) the HDF5 libs or the hdf5 package for R. Just for the record, the HDF5 data files were correctly generated in the new machine (therefore, I assume the HDF5 libs are good at least for outputting data). I could read them in my old machine (R version 1.2.2). Thanks for any help! Eiji ps: Just in case, I left the test data file I used at http://www.his.atr.co.jp/~eiji/R/ts3n0.hdf (240kB) --error log-- > library(hdf5) > hdf5load("ts3n0.hdf") R.bin: H5T.c:5729: H5T_set_size: Assertion `"not implemented yet" && 0' failed. From m.gallucci@psy.vu.nl Tue Jul 8 01:39:16 2003 Received: from evol.psy.vu.nl (evol.psy.vu.nl [130.37.96.84]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h688dF0B028485 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 01:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by evol.psy.vu.nl (Postfix, from userid 501) id 0380F5DC36; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 10:32:18 +0200 (CEST) From: Marcello To: support@swarm.org In-Reply-To: <3F057B0D.8070503@ku.edu> References: <6165AE08DEE5D51181C100508B559F122BC130@mailvitoalessio.insys-corp.com.mx> <3F057B0D.8070503@ku.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8-3.1mdk Date: 08 Jul 2003 10:32:18 +0200 Message-Id: <1057653138.27227.159.camel@evol.psy.vu.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tigger.cbr.washington.edu id h688dF0B028485 Subject: [Swarm-Support] binary numbers Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Sorry if this comes a bit off the topic: Does anybody have a nice and clean way to handle binary numbers. I would like to store some information about the agent as a binary number (0100101), and have a call that returns exactly the digit I'd like. Thus, if the agent has myBin=01001, the call [agent gimmeBin: 1] returns 0, [agent gimmeBin: 2] returns 1, [agent gimmeBin: 3] returns 0, and so on. Of course, I could write gimmeBin as a sequence of if-then, but it does not sound very neat. Any hint? thanks marcello On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 15:03, Paul Johnson wrote: > au contraire! > > I have put both swarm-2.1.143 and 2.1.145 up there some time ago. > > Although the swarm link to the ftp server won't let me in now, I can get > there from > > ftp://ftp.santafe.edu/pub/swarm/src/testing. > > Agustin Ramos Fonseca wrote: > > Thank you for your advise. > > > > I'd like to know where I can get the swarm 2.1.143.20030512 sources, > > I looked for them at > > ftp://ftp.swarm.org/pub/swarm/src/testing/ > > but they aren't there. > > > > I'll try to upgrade my RH to 7.3 but I think my old PC won't support it > > (mainly because disk space, all rpm updates are disk consuming) > > > > I'm interested in the sources because I'm interested in modelling and > > in the inner workings of this tool. So I'll try to build the sources. > > > > Thanks again > > > > Agustín T.Ramos Fonseca > > > -- > Paul E. Johnson email: pauljohn@ukans.edu > Dept. of Political Science http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn > University of Kansas Office: (785) 864-9086 > Lawrence, Kansas 66045 FAX: (785) 864-5700 > > _______________________________________________ > Support mailing list > Support@swarm.org > http://www.swarm.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Marcello Gallucci (Ph.D) Department of Social Psychology Free University Van der Boechorststraat 1 1081 BT Amsterdam (NL) Tel. +31(0)20 4448846 Fax +31 (0)20 4448921 From Konrad_Richter@mckinsey.com Tue Jul 8 02:03:05 2003 Received: from na-mailer02.mckinsey.com (mailer02.mckinsey.com [157.191.3.31]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h689350B028602 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 02:03:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from na-gateways02.notes.mckinsey.com (na-gateways02.mckinsey.com [157.191.168.25]) by na-mailer02.mckinsey.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h689316e006873 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 05:03:04 -0400 Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] binary numbers To: support@swarm.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: Konrad_Richter@mckinsey.com Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 11:02:11 +0200 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on NA-Gateways02/NorthAmerica/MCKINSEY(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 07/08/2003 05:03:04 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tigger.cbr.washington.edu id h689350B028602 Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Marcello, you could create a list [bitstring] for the agent, consisting of single elements which take the values 0 or 1. The elements should have the functions setVal and getVal (do not call them setValue and getValue, since otherwise SWARM gets mixed up with some other functions it uses internally). Then, the i-th value could be obtained by [[[agent getBitstring] atOffset: i] getVal] - where the function getBitstring returns the above mentioned list. Hope, that helps, greetings, Konrad |--------+-----------------------> | | Marcello | | | | | | Sent by: | | | support-admi| | | n@swarm.org | | | 08.07.2003 | | | 10:32 | | | Please | | | respond to | | | support | | | | |--------+-----------------------> >-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | | To: support@swarm.org | | cc: (bcc: Konrad Richter/VIE/Europe/MCKINSEY) | | Subject: [Swarm-Support] binary numbers | >-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| Sorry if this comes a bit off the topic: Does anybody have a nice and clean way to handle binary numbers. I would like to store some information about the agent as a binary number (0100101), and have a call that returns exactly the digit I'd like. Thus, if the agent has myBin=01001, the call [agent gimmeBin: 1] returns 0, [agent gimmeBin: 2] returns 1, [agent gimmeBin: 3] returns 0, and so on. Of course, I could write gimmeBin as a sequence of if-then, but it does not sound very neat. Any hint? thanks marcello On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 15:03, Paul Johnson wrote: > au contraire! > > I have put both swarm-2.1.143 and 2.1.145 up there some time ago. > > Although the swarm link to the ftp server won't let me in now, I can get > there from > > ftp://ftp.santafe.edu/pub/swarm/src/testing. > > Agustin Ramos Fonseca wrote: > > Thank you for your advise. > > > > I'd like to know where I can get the swarm 2.1.143.20030512 sources, > > I looked for them at > > ftp://ftp.swarm.org/pub/swarm/src/testing/ > > but they aren't there. > > > > I'll try to upgrade my RH to 7.3 but I think my old PC won't support it > > (mainly because disk space, all rpm updates are disk consuming) > > > > I'm interested in the sources because I'm interested in modelling and > > in the inner workings of this tool. So I'll try to build the sources. > > > > Thanks again > > > > Agustín T.Ramos Fonseca > > > -- > Paul E. Johnson email: pauljohn@ukans.edu > Dept. of Political Science http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn > University of Kansas Office: (785) 864-9086 > Lawrence, Kansas 66045 FAX: (785) 864-5700 > > _______________________________________________ > Support mailing list > Support@swarm.org > http://www.swarm.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Marcello Gallucci (Ph.D) Department of Social Psychology Free University Van der Boechorststraat 1 1081 BT Amsterdam (NL) Tel. +31(0)20 4448846 Fax +31 (0)20 4448921 _______________________________________________ Support mailing list Support@swarm.org http://www.swarm.org/mailman/listinfo/support +---------------------------------------------------------+ This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose or take any action based on this message or any information herein. 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Thank you for your cooperation. +---------------------------------------------------------+ From rks@parallel.hpc.unsw.edu.au Tue Jul 8 03:55:37 2003 Received: from parallel.hpc.unsw.edu.au (root@parallel.hpc.unsw.edu.au [129.94.176.241]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h68AtZ0B029061 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 03:55:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from parallel.hpc.unsw.edu.au (rks@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by parallel.hpc.unsw.edu.au (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h68Ajd9N007450 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 20:45:39 +1000 Received: (from rks@localhost) by parallel.hpc.unsw.edu.au (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h68Ajc6Q007445 for support@swarm.org; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 20:45:38 +1000 From: Russell Standish Message-Id: <200307081045.h68Ajc6Q007445@parallel.hpc.unsw.edu.au> Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] binary numbers To: support@swarm.org Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 20:45:37 +1000 (EST) In-Reply-To: <1057653138.27227.159.camel@evol.psy.vu.nl> from "Marcello" at Jul 08, 2003 10:32:18 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: If the bitstrings fit into the system wordsize (32 bits on average PCs), then you can use the standard bit manipulation operators of C: x|=1< > Sorry if this comes a bit off the topic: > Does anybody have a nice and clean way to handle binary numbers. I would > like to store some information about the agent as a binary number > (0100101), and have a call that returns exactly the digit I'd like. > Thus, if the agent has myBin=01001, the call [agent gimmeBin: 1] returns > 0, [agent gimmeBin: 2] returns 1, [agent gimmeBin: 3] returns 0, and so > on. Of course, I could write gimmeBin as a sequence of if-then, but it > does not sound very neat. > Any hint? > thanks > marcello > On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 15:03, Paul Johnson wrote: > > au contraire! > > > > I have put both swarm-2.1.143 and 2.1.145 up there some time ago. > > > > Although the swarm link to the ftp server won't let me in now, I can get > > there from > > > > ftp://ftp.santafe.edu/pub/swarm/src/testing. > > > > Agustin Ramos Fonseca wrote: > > > Thank you for your advise. > > > > > > I'd like to know where I can get the swarm 2.1.143.20030512 sources, > > > I looked for them at > > > ftp://ftp.swarm.org/pub/swarm/src/testing/ > > > but they aren't there. > > > > > > I'll try to upgrade my RH to 7.3 but I think my old PC won't support it > > > (mainly because disk space, all rpm updates are disk consuming) > > > > > > I'm interested in the sources because I'm interested in modelling and > > > in the inner workings of this tool. So I'll try to build the sources. > > > > > > Thanks again > > > > > > Agustín T.Ramos Fonseca > > > > > > -- > > Paul E. Johnson email: pauljohn@ukans.edu > > Dept. of Political Science http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn > > University of Kansas Office: (785) 864-9086 > > Lawrence, Kansas 66045 FAX: (785) 864-5700 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Support mailing list > > Support@swarm.org > > http://www.swarm.org/mailman/listinfo/support > -- > Marcello Gallucci (Ph.D) > Department of Social Psychology > Free University > Van der Boechorststraat 1 > 1081 BT Amsterdam (NL) > Tel. +31(0)20 4448846 > Fax +31 (0)20 4448921 > > _______________________________________________ > Support mailing list > Support@swarm.org > http://www.swarm.org/mailman/listinfo/support > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- A/Prof Russell Standish Director High Performance Computing Support Unit, Phone 9385 6967, 8308 3119 (mobile) UNSW SYDNEY 2052 Fax 9385 6965, 0425 253119 (") Australia R.Standish@unsw.edu.au Room 2075, Red Centre http://parallel.hpc.unsw.edu.au/rks International prefix +612, Interstate prefix 02 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From m.gallucci@psy.vu.nl Tue Jul 8 04:13:34 2003 Received: from evol.psy.vu.nl (evol.psy.vu.nl [130.37.96.84]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h68BDX0B029146 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 04:13:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by evol.psy.vu.nl (Postfix, from userid 501) id ADC4A5DC36; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 13:06:37 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] binary numbers From: Marcello To: support@swarm.org In-Reply-To: <200307081045.h68Ajc6Q007445@parallel.hpc.unsw.edu.au> References: <200307081045.h68Ajc6Q007445@parallel.hpc.unsw.edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8-3.1mdk Date: 08 Jul 2003 13:06:37 +0200 Message-Id: <1057662397.27227.277.camel@evol.psy.vu.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tigger.cbr.washington.edu id h68BDX0B029146 Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Thanks for the replies. Which kind of type should bitstring be in order to work with standard bit operators? marcello On Tue, 2003-07-08 at 12:45, Russell Standish wrote: > If the bitstrings fit into the system wordsize (32 bits on average > PCs), then you can use the standard bit manipulation operators of C: > > x|=1< (x&1< > If you have more bits than the wordsize, then you'll need to concoct a > BitSet object to do your work. C++ has a number of these - I'm not so > familiar with what's available for Obj C. > > Cheers > > Marcello wrote: > > > > Sorry if this comes a bit off the topic: > > Does anybody have a nice and clean way to handle binary numbers. I would > > like to store some information about the agent as a binary number > > (0100101), and have a call that returns exactly the digit I'd like. > > Thus, if the agent has myBin=01001, the call [agent gimmeBin: 1] returns > > 0, [agent gimmeBin: 2] returns 1, [agent gimmeBin: 3] returns 0, and so > > on. Of course, I could write gimmeBin as a sequence of if-then, but it > > does not sound very neat. > > Any hint? > > thanks > > marcello > > On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 15:03, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > au contraire! > > > > > > I have put both swarm-2.1.143 and 2.1.145 up there some time ago. > > > > > > Although the swarm link to the ftp server won't let me in now, I can get > > > there from > > > > > > ftp://ftp.santafe.edu/pub/swarm/src/testing. > > > > > > Agustin Ramos Fonseca wrote: > > > > Thank you for your advise. > > > > > > > > I'd like to know where I can get the swarm 2.1.143.20030512 sources, > > > > I looked for them at > > > > ftp://ftp.swarm.org/pub/swarm/src/testing/ > > > > but they aren't there. > > > > > > > > I'll try to upgrade my RH to 7.3 but I think my old PC won't support it > > > > (mainly because disk space, all rpm updates are disk consuming) > > > > > > > > I'm interested in the sources because I'm interested in modelling and > > > > in the inner workings of this tool. So I'll try to build the sources. > > > > > > > > Thanks again > > > > > > > > Agustín T.Ramos Fonseca > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Paul E. Johnson email: pauljohn@ukans.edu > > > Dept. of Political Science http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn > > > University of Kansas Office: (785) 864-9086 > > > Lawrence, Kansas 66045 FAX: (785) 864-5700 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Support mailing list > > > Support@swarm.org > > > http://www.swarm.org/mailman/listinfo/support > > -- > > Marcello Gallucci (Ph.D) > > Department of Social Psychology > > Free University > > Van der Boechorststraat 1 > > 1081 BT Amsterdam (NL) > > Tel. +31(0)20 4448846 > > Fax +31 (0)20 4448921 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Support mailing list > > Support@swarm.org > > http://www.swarm.org/mailman/listinfo/support > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > A/Prof Russell Standish Director > High Performance Computing Support Unit, Phone 9385 6967, 8308 3119 (mobile) > UNSW SYDNEY 2052 Fax 9385 6965, 0425 253119 (") > Australia R.Standish@unsw.edu.au > Room 2075, Red Centre http://parallel.hpc.unsw.edu.au/rks > International prefix +612, Interstate prefix 02 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > Support mailing list > Support@swarm.org > http://www.swarm.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Marcello Gallucci (Ph.D) Department of Social Psychology Free University Van der Boechorststraat 1 1081 BT Amsterdam (NL) Tel. +31(0)20 4448846 Fax +31 (0)20 4448921 From rks@parallel.hpc.unsw.edu.au Tue Jul 8 04:52:55 2003 Received: from parallel.hpc.unsw.edu.au (root@parallel.hpc.unsw.edu.au [129.94.176.241]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h68Bqr0B029337 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 04:52:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from parallel.hpc.unsw.edu.au (rks@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by parallel.hpc.unsw.edu.au (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h68Bh09N004215 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 21:43:00 +1000 Received: (from rks@localhost) by parallel.hpc.unsw.edu.au (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h68Bh0B0004213 for support@swarm.org; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 21:43:00 +1000 From: Russell Standish Message-Id: <200307081143.h68Bh0B0004213@parallel.hpc.unsw.edu.au> Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] binary numbers To: support@swarm.org Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 21:43:00 +1000 (EST) In-Reply-To: <1057662397.27227.277.camel@evol.psy.vu.nl> from "Marcello" at Jul 08, 2003 01:06:37 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Any standard integral type. unsigned would be a good choice. Cheers Marcello wrote: > > Thanks for the replies. Which kind of type should bitstring be in order > to work with standard bit operators? > marcello > On Tue, 2003-07-08 at 12:45, Russell Standish wrote: > > If the bitstrings fit into the system wordsize (32 bits on average > > PCs), then you can use the standard bit manipulation operators of C: > > > > x|=1< > (x&1< > > > If you have more bits than the wordsize, then you'll need to concoct a > > BitSet object to do your work. C++ has a number of these - I'm not so > > familiar with what's available for Obj C. > > > > Cheers > > > > Marcello wrote: > > > > > > Sorry if this comes a bit off the topic: > > > Does anybody have a nice and clean way to handle binary numbers. I would > > > like to store some information about the agent as a binary number > > > (0100101), and have a call that returns exactly the digit I'd like. > > > Thus, if the agent has myBin=01001, the call [agent gimmeBin: 1] returns > > > 0, [agent gimmeBin: 2] returns 1, [agent gimmeBin: 3] returns 0, and so > > > on. Of course, I could write gimmeBin as a sequence of if-then, but it > > > does not sound very neat. > > > Any hint? > > > thanks > > > marcello > > > On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 15:03, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > > au contraire! > > > > > > > > I have put both swarm-2.1.143 and 2.1.145 up there some time ago. > > > > > > > > Although the swarm link to the ftp server won't let me in now, I can get > > > > there from > > > > > > > > ftp://ftp.santafe.edu/pub/swarm/src/testing. > > > > > > > > Agustin Ramos Fonseca wrote: > > > > > Thank you for your advise. > > > > > > > > > > I'd like to know where I can get the swarm 2.1.143.20030512 sources, > > > > > I looked for them at > > > > > ftp://ftp.swarm.org/pub/swarm/src/testing/ > > > > > but they aren't there. > > > > > > > > > > I'll try to upgrade my RH to 7.3 but I think my old PC won't support it > > > > > (mainly because disk space, all rpm updates are disk consuming) > > > > > > > > > > I'm interested in the sources because I'm interested in modelling and > > > > > in the inner workings of this tool. So I'll try to build the sources. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again > > > > > > > > > > Agustín T.Ramos Fonseca > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Paul E. Johnson email: pauljohn@ukans.edu > > > > Dept. of Political Science http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn > > > > University of Kansas Office: (785) 864-9086 > > > > Lawrence, Kansas 66045 FAX: (785) 864-5700 > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Support mailing list > > > > Support@swarm.org > > > > http://www.swarm.org/mailman/listinfo/support > > > -- > > > Marcello Gallucci (Ph.D) > > > Department of Social Psychology > > > Free University > > > Van der Boechorststraat 1 > > > 1081 BT Amsterdam (NL) > > > Tel. +31(0)20 4448846 > > > Fax +31 (0)20 4448921 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Support mailing list > > > Support@swarm.org > > > http://www.swarm.org/mailman/listinfo/support > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > A/Prof Russell Standish Director > > High Performance Computing Support Unit, Phone 9385 6967, 8308 3119 (mobile) > > UNSW SYDNEY 2052 Fax 9385 6965, 0425 253119 (") > > Australia R.Standish@unsw.edu.au > > Room 2075, Red Centre http://parallel.hpc.unsw.edu.au/rks > > International prefix +612, Interstate prefix 02 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > > Support mailing list > > Support@swarm.org > > http://www.swarm.org/mailman/listinfo/support > -- > Marcello Gallucci (Ph.D) > Department of Social Psychology > Free University > Van der Boechorststraat 1 > 1081 BT Amsterdam (NL) > Tel. +31(0)20 4448846 > Fax +31 (0)20 4448921 > > _______________________________________________ > Support mailing list > Support@swarm.org > http://www.swarm.org/mailman/listinfo/support > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- A/Prof Russell Standish Director High Performance Computing Support Unit, Phone 9385 6967, 8308 3119 (mobile) UNSW SYDNEY 2052 Fax 9385 6965, 0425 253119 (") Australia R.Standish@unsw.edu.au Room 2075, Red Centre http://parallel.hpc.unsw.edu.au/rks International prefix +612, Interstate prefix 02 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pauljohn@ku.edu Tue Jul 8 07:37:05 2003 Received: from smtp.sunflower.com (smtp.sunflower.com [24.124.0.128]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h68Eb40B000030 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 07:37:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ku.edu (131.80.cm.sunflower.com [24.124.80.131]) by smtp.sunflower.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h68Eb1823004 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 09:37:03 -0500 Message-ID: <3F0AD634.2080204@ku.edu> Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 09:33:24 -0500 From: Paul Johnson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030225 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: support@swarm.org Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] binary numbers References: <200307081045.h68Ajc6Q007445@parallel.hpc.unsw.edu.au> <1057662397.27227.277.camel@evol.psy.vu.nl> In-Reply-To: <1057662397.27227.277.camel@evol.psy.vu.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org X-Reply-To: pauljohn@ku.edu List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: I wrote classes to do this for the artificial stock market http://ArtStkMkt.sourceforge.net. pj Marcello wrote: > Thanks for the replies. Which kind of type should bitstring be in order > to work with standard bit operators? > marcello > On Tue, 2003-07-08 at 12:45, Russell Standish wrote: > >>If the bitstrings fit into the system wordsize (32 bits on average >>PCs), then you can use the standard bit manipulation operators of C: >> >>x|=1<>(x&1<> >>If you have more bits than the wordsize, then you'll need to concoct a >>BitSet object to do your work. C++ has a number of these - I'm not so >>familiar with what's available for Obj C. >> >> Cheers >> -- Paul E. Johnson email: pauljohn@ukans.edu Dept. of Political Science http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn University of Kansas Office: (785) 864-9086 Lawrence, Kansas 66045 FAX: (785) 864-5700 From pauljohn@ku.edu Tue Jul 8 07:51:37 2003 Received: from smtp.sunflower.com (smtp.sunflower.com [24.124.0.128]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h68Epa0B000124 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 07:51:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ku.edu (131.80.cm.sunflower.com [24.124.80.131]) by smtp.sunflower.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h68Epa824529 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 09:51:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3F0AD99E.8000306@ku.edu> Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 09:47:58 -0500 From: Paul Johnson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030225 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: support@swarm.org Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] Problem with package hdf5-1.4.7 in R-1.7.1 References: <20030708.134125.59667858.eiji@atr.co.jp> In-Reply-To: <20030708.134125.59667858.eiji@atr.co.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org X-Reply-To: pauljohn@ku.edu List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: In the hdf5 web site, it says 1.4.5post2 is the last official release. http://hdf.ncsa.uiuc.edu/HDF5/release/obtain5.html Why are you using 1.4.7? Norberto Eiji Nawa wrote: > (I posted this to r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch; since the HDF5 package for > R was born within the swarm community (thanks, Marcus!) I thought I > should give it a try here as well. E.) > > Hello: > > Has anyone successfully installed the package hdf5-1.4.7 in R version > 1.7.1? I get a fatal error with a core dump (see below) whenever I try > to use hdf5load. > > Since I'm in the process of moving to a new machine, I'm not sure > whether this is due to (my installations of) the HDF5 libs or the hdf5 > package for R. Just for the record, the HDF5 data files were correctly > generated in the new machine (therefore, I assume the HDF5 libs are > good at least for outputting data). I could read them in my old > machine (R version 1.2.2). > > Thanks for any help! > > Eiji ort -- Paul E. Johnson email: pauljohn@ukans.edu Dept. of Political Science http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn University of Kansas Office: (785) 864-9086 Lawrence, Kansas 66045 FAX: (785) 864-5700 From eiji@atr.co.jp Tue Jul 8 16:47:09 2003 Received: from mailgw2.atr.co.jp (ns2w.atr.co.jp [133.186.1.11]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h68Nl80B002427 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 16:47:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vcms.atr.co.jp (epsilon.atr.co.jp [133.186.254.10]) by mailgw2.atr.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9063118BAC for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 08:47:02 +0900 (JST) Received: from emperor.his.atr.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vcms.atr.co.jp (Postfix) with SMTP id 3898D39796 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 08:47:02 +0900 (JST) Received: (qmail 29114 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2003 08:47:44 +0900 Received: from fortune.his.atr.co.jp (HELO localhost) (133.186.80.76) by emperor.his.atr.co.jp with SMTP; 9 Jul 2003 08:47:44 +0900 Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 08:46:57 -0900 (GMT+9) Message-Id: <20030709.084657.38699066.eiji@atr.co.jp> To: support@swarm.org From: Norberto Eiji Nawa In-Reply-To: <20030708190007.1203.64264.Mailman@tigger> References: <20030708190007.1203.64264.Mailman@tigger> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.2 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Swarm-Support] Re: Support digest, Vol 1 #132 - 8 msgs Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: P> Message: 8 P> Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 09:47:58 -0500 P> From: Paul Johnson P> To: support@swarm.org P> Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] Problem with package hdf5-1.4.7 in R-1.7.1 P> Reply-To: support@swarm.org P P> In the hdf5 web site, it says 1.4.5post2 is the last official release. P P> http://hdf.ncsa.uiuc.edu/HDF5/release/obtain5.html P P> Why are you using 1.4.7? The 1.4.7 refers to the version of the hdf5 add-on package for R (http://cran.r-project.org/ -> Package Sources -> hdf5). The latest release of HDF5 is 1.4.5post2 as you mentioned. That's what I have in my machine (for the record, I got some errors in the test phase of the installation which I'm still investigating). From mgd@santafe.edu Tue Jul 8 17:04:59 2003 Received: from pele.santafe.edu (pele.santafe.edu [192.12.12.119]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6904w0B002538 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 17:04:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from santafe.edu (dhcp233 [192.12.12.233]) by pele.santafe.edu (8.11.7+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6904vD14497 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 18:04:57 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <3F0B5C23.8040808@santafe.edu> Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 18:04:51 -0600 From: "Marcus G. Daniels" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: support@swarm.org Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] Re: Support digest, Vol 1 #132 - 8 msgs References: <20030708190007.1203.64264.Mailman@tigger> <20030709.084657.38699066.eiji@atr.co.jp> In-Reply-To: <20030709.084657.38699066.eiji@atr.co.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: I've used hdf5-1.4.7 with R-1.7.0, but maybe I made some tweaks. I can't remember. I would suggest filing a bug at http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/swarm. I'll fix it when I have a chance. I don't really have any reason to pay attention to this list much anymore. From W.Northcott@unsw.edu.au Tue Jul 8 17:26:31 2003 Received: from 129.94.244.54 (commerce2.fce.unsw.EDU.AU [129.94.244.54]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h690QU0B002664 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 17:26:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 129.94.12.208 ([129.94.12.208]) by 129.94.244.54 (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.10) with ESMTP id 2003070911233843:33822 ; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 11:23:38 +1000 In-Reply-To: <07E3A1B2-B19F-11D7-AC67-000A959FDB0A@mac.com> To: Mike Bobak Cc: support@swarm.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.0 September 26, 2002 From: "Bill Northcott" Message-ID: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 10:21:55 +1000 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on Commerce8/UNSW/AU(Release 5.0.10 |March 22, 2002) at 09/07/2003 10:21:56 AM, Serialize complete at 09/07/2003 10:21:56 AM, Itemize by SMTP Server on Commerce9/UNSW/AU(Release 5.0.10 |March 22, 2002) at 07/09/2003 11:23:38 AM, Serialize by Router on Commerce9/UNSW/AU(Release 5.0.10 |March 22, 2002) at 07/09/2003 11:23:40 AM, Serialize complete at 07/09/2003 11:23:40 AM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Subject: [Swarm-Support] Re: swarm os-x install Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: > I installed everything below, but it didn't have javaswarm in it. So > I tried to compile swarm-2002-05-14, but I can't get it to see the > tcl.pkg that I installed. Thanks for the email. Please be aware that that Java for MacOS X was not fixed in the source code until May. This code has not been released as a source distribution, but you can get it from the CVS. Last year's code won't build anything on the Mac. We are in the process of doing a new MacOS X build which will include Java. This release should also enable the use of the Apple compiler and so better integration with Apple hardware and developer tools. At the moment, we have some issues with the Developer tools update which was released immediately after the Apple developer conference. It works for some people and not others. If you feel up to having a go at the CVS code please join in. Otherwise wait a couple of weeks, and I feel confident we will have the best Swarm implementation for any OS available on the Mac. Meanwhile the code on the web site will work to build apps with the Dev tools update but lacks Java, and may have problems building a library. Bill Northcott From m.gallucci@psy.vu.nl Wed Jul 9 04:11:24 2003 Received: from evol.psy.vu.nl (evol.psy.vu.nl [130.37.96.84]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h69BBN0B005217 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 04:11:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by evol.psy.vu.nl (Postfix, from userid 501) id 6A2EA5DC36; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 13:04:23 +0200 (CEST) From: Marcello To: support@swarm.org In-Reply-To: <200307081143.h68Bh0B0004213@parallel.hpc.unsw.edu.au> References: <200307081143.h68Bh0B0004213@parallel.hpc.unsw.edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8-3.1mdk Date: 09 Jul 2003 13:04:23 +0200 Message-Id: <1057748663.29065.39.camel@evol.psy.vu.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [Swarm-Support] Selectors Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Pardon me the frequency of my questions! I have a method in a class Agent: - setPayoff: (float) p { payoff=p; return self; } Now, in another class, I have a List of Agent called "group". I'd like to pass through the list and set the payoff as follows: float pay=10.1; [group forEach: M(setPayoff:): pay ]; If I do that, I get gcc: incompatible type for argument 4 of indirect function call if I set [group forEach: M(setPayoff:): (id) pay ]; id does not work either, it only works if : [group forEach: M(setPayoff:): (int) pay ]; but then pay is always zero. Any help? thanks marcello -- Marcello Gallucci (Ph.D) Department of Social Psychology Free University Van der Boechorststraat 1 1081 BT Amsterdam (NL) Tel. +31(0)20 4448846 Fax +31 (0)20 4448921 From pauljohn@ku.edu Wed Jul 9 07:35:37 2003 Received: from smtp.sunflower.com (smtp.sunflower.com [24.124.0.128]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h69EZa0B006078 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 07:35:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ku.edu (131.80.cm.sunflower.com [24.124.80.131]) by smtp.sunflower.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h69EZa807643 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 09:35:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3F0C2757.3000003@ku.edu> Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 09:31:51 -0500 From: Paul Johnson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030225 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: support@swarm.org Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] Selectors References: <200307081143.h68Bh0B0004213@parallel.hpc.unsw.edu.au> <1057748663.29065.39.camel@evol.psy.vu.nl> In-Reply-To: <1057748663.29065.39.camel@evol.psy.vu.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org X-Reply-To: pauljohn@ku.edu List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: This is a "wrapper" problem. The only valid type of variable in forEach: is an id or pointer. Some people cast integers as pointers to do this kind of thing, but floats are a no-go as far as I understand. I think in the User Guide's discussion of scheduling it talks about creating wrapper objects to pass variables to and fro. FOr example, you could create a class SwarmFloat, set a value in there, and pass it through the way you want. But please just consider taking the simple, direct route: iterate over your list. id index = [list begin: [self getZone]]; id anObj; for (anObj = [index next]; [index getLoc]==Member; anObj = [index next]) { [anObj setPayoff: pay]; } Marcello wrote: > Pardon me the frequency of my questions! > > I have a method in a class Agent: > > - setPayoff: (float) p { > > payoff=p; > > return self; > } > > Now, in another class, I have a List of Agent called "group". I'd like > to pass through the list and set the payoff as follows: > float pay=10.1; > [group forEach: M(setPayoff:): pay ]; > > If I do that, I get > gcc: incompatible type for argument 4 of indirect function call > > if I set > [group forEach: M(setPayoff:): (id) pay ]; > id does not work either, > > it only works if : > [group forEach: M(setPayoff:): (int) pay ]; > > but then pay is always zero. > > Any help? > thanks > marcello -- Paul E. Johnson email: pauljohn@ukans.edu Dept. of Political Science http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn University of Kansas Office: (785) 864-9086 Lawrence, Kansas 66045 FAX: (785) 864-5700 From jackson3@humboldt1.com Wed Jul 9 07:52:20 2003 Received: from home.humboldt1.com (home.humboldt1.com [206.13.45.1]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h69EqK0B006168 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 07:52:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from humboldt1.com (ppp669-pm7.humboldt1.com [216.100.38.25]) by home.humboldt1.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h69EqDkD008783 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 07:52:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F0C2C5E.5127A67C@humboldt1.com> Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 07:53:18 -0700 From: Steve Jackson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: support@swarm.org Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] Selectors References: <200307081143.h68Bh0B0004213@parallel.hpc.unsw.edu.au> <1057748663.29065.39.camel@evol.psy.vu.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Try something like this: - setPayoff: (float *) p { payoff = *p; return self; } float pay=10.1; [group forEach: M(setPayoff:): (void *) &pay ]; or float* pay; pay = (float *) [whateverZone alloc: sizeof(float)]; *pay = 10.1; [group forEach: M(setPayoff:): (void *) pay ]; Free up the memory allocation when you're done with pay: [whateverZone free: pay]; Marcello wrote: > Pardon me the frequency of my questions! > > I have a method in a class Agent: > > - setPayoff: (float) p { > > payoff=p; > > return self; > } > > Now, in another class, I have a List of Agent called "group". I'd like > to pass through the list and set the payoff as follows: > float pay=10.1; > [group forEach: M(setPayoff:): pay ]; > > If I do that, I get > gcc: incompatible type for argument 4 of indirect function call > > if I set > [group forEach: M(setPayoff:): (id) pay ]; > id does not work either, > > it only works if : > [group forEach: M(setPayoff:): (int) pay ]; > > but then pay is always zero. > > Any help? > thanks > marcello > -- > Marcello Gallucci (Ph.D) > Department of Social Psychology > Free University > Van der Boechorststraat 1 > 1081 BT Amsterdam (NL) > Tel. +31(0)20 4448846 > Fax +31 (0)20 4448921 > _______________________________________________ > Support mailing list > Support@swarm.org > http://www.swarm.org/mailman/listinfo/support From m.gallucci@psy.vu.nl Wed Jul 9 08:03:27 2003 Received: from evol.psy.vu.nl (evol.psy.vu.nl [130.37.96.84]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h69F3Q0B006225 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 08:03:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by evol.psy.vu.nl (Postfix, from userid 501) id 35BA75DC36; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 16:56:25 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] Selectors From: Marcello To: support@swarm.org In-Reply-To: <3F0C2757.3000003@ku.edu> References: <200307081143.h68Bh0B0004213@parallel.hpc.unsw.edu.au> <1057748663.29065.39.camel@evol.psy.vu.nl> <3F0C2757.3000003@ku.edu> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8-3.1mdk Date: 09 Jul 2003 16:56:25 +0200 Message-Id: <1057762585.29065.45.camel@evol.psy.vu.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Simplest route sounds good (I thought forEach was faster!) . thanks I take it as your code is equivalent to this: id index=[list begin:[self getZone]] while ((tgt=[index next])) [tgt setPayoff: pay]; [index drop]; Am I right? cheers marcello On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 16:31, Paul Johnson wrote: > This is a "wrapper" problem. The only valid type of variable in forEach: > is an id or pointer. Some people cast integers as pointers to do this > kind of thing, but floats are a no-go as far as I understand. I think > in the User Guide's discussion of scheduling it talks about creating > wrapper objects to pass variables to and fro. FOr example, you could > create a class SwarmFloat, set a value in there, and pass it through the > way you want. > > But please just consider taking the simple, direct route: iterate over > your list. > > id index = [list begin: [self getZone]]; > id anObj; > for (anObj = [index next]; [index getLoc]==Member; anObj = [index next]) > { > [anObj setPayoff: pay]; > } > > Marcello wrote: > > Pardon me the frequency of my questions! > > > > I have a method in a class Agent: > > > > - setPayoff: (float) p { > > > > payoff=p; > > > > return self; > > } > > > > Now, in another class, I have a List of Agent called "group". I'd like > > to pass through the list and set the payoff as follows: > > float pay=10.1; > > [group forEach: M(setPayoff:): pay ]; > > > > If I do that, I get > > gcc: incompatible type for argument 4 of indirect function call > > > > if I set > > [group forEach: M(setPayoff:): (id) pay ]; > > id does not work either, > > > > it only works if : > > [group forEach: M(setPayoff:): (int) pay ]; > > > > but then pay is always zero. > > > > Any help? > > thanks > > marcello > > > -- > Paul E. Johnson email: pauljohn@ukans.edu > Dept. of Political Science http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn > University of Kansas Office: (785) 864-9086 > Lawrence, Kansas 66045 FAX: (785) 864-5700 > > _______________________________________________ > Support mailing list > Support@swarm.org > http://www.swarm.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Marcello Gallucci (Ph.D) Department of Social Psychology Free University Van der Boechorststraat 1 1081 BT Amsterdam (NL) Tel. +31(0)20 4448846 Fax +31 (0)20 4448921 From pauljohn@ku.edu Wed Jul 9 08:32:05 2003 Received: from smtp.sunflower.com (smtp.sunflower.com [24.124.0.128]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h69FW40B006399 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 08:32:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ku.edu (131.80.cm.sunflower.com [24.124.80.131]) by smtp.sunflower.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h69FW4816376 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 10:32:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3F0C3493.2030609@ku.edu> Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 10:28:19 -0500 From: Paul Johnson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030225 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: support@swarm.org Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] Selectors References: <200307081143.h68Bh0B0004213@parallel.hpc.unsw.edu.au> <1057748663.29065.39.camel@evol.psy.vu.nl> <3F0C2757.3000003@ku.edu> <1057762585.29065.45.camel@evol.psy.vu.nl> In-Reply-To: <1057762585.29065.45.camel@evol.psy.vu.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org X-Reply-To: pauljohn@ku.edu List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: No, not equivalent. Mine is better :) Your loop will stop if there is a nil object in your list, while mine is guaranteed to process all objects in a list. The for loop I suggest is the recommended way. Marcello wrote: > Simplest route sounds good (I thought forEach was faster!) . thanks > I take it as your code is equivalent to this: > > id index=[list begin:[self getZone]] > while ((tgt=[index next])) [tgt setPayoff: pay]; > [index drop]; > > Am I right? > cheers > marcello > > On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 16:31, Paul Johnson wrote: -- Paul E. Johnson email: pauljohn@ukans.edu Dept. of Political Science http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn University of Kansas Office: (785) 864-9086 Lawrence, Kansas 66045 FAX: (785) 864-5700 From petersja@gmx.at Fri Jul 11 04:27:20 2003 Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h6BBRJ0B017486 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 04:27:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 978 invoked by uid 65534); 11 Jul 2003 11:27:12 -0000 Received: from arcss01.arcs.ac.at (EHLO tecra8000) (62.218.164.126) by mail.gmx.net (mp012) with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 13:27:12 +0200 Message-ID: <002401c3479e$d79cfae0$07dc18ac@arcs.ac.at> From: "Jan Peters" To: References: <2EDAF6DC7CE9D4118D4C00508BAED3150FE4D6FE@icex3.cc.ic.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 13:23:23 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: [Swarm-Support] Swarm Java Classes: Source available? Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Hello, maybe I did not search long enough for the desired files, but is the source of the java classes available somewhere? Repast has them in the src tree, Swarm does not seem to have such a directory (and I did not find anything in the Swarm sourcecode). Thanks Jan From mgd@santafe.edu Fri Jul 11 06:23:47 2003 Received: from cassiopeia.email.starband.net (cassiopeia.email.starband.net [148.78.247.122]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6BDNk0B017939 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 06:23:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from santafe.edu (vsat-148-64-12-3.c050.t7.mrt.starband.net [148.64.12.3]) by cassiopeia.email.starband.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6BDOBY9028267 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 09:24:17 -0400 Message-ID: <3F0EBB4A.3040300@santafe.edu> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 07:27:38 -0600 From: "Marcus G. Daniels" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: support@swarm.org Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] Swarm Java Classes: Source available? References: <2EDAF6DC7CE9D4118D4C00508BAED3150FE4D6FE@icex3.cc.ic.ac.uk> <002401c3479e$d79cfae0$07dc18ac@arcs.ac.at> In-Reply-To: <002401c3479e$d79cfae0$07dc18ac@arcs.ac.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Jan Peters wrote: >but is the source of the java classes available somewhere? > Swarm separates interface from implementation by the use of protocol files. Protocol files list all of the public variables, functions, macros, interfaces, and the interfaces' methods. Using automated tools, it is possible to generate a shell around the Swarm libraries and make it usable in other languages like Java. So, yes, those classes exist as source code, but only when you build Swarm itself. From mgd@santafe.edu Sat Jul 12 08:36:43 2003 Received: from cassiopeia.email.starband.net (cassiopeia.email.starband.net [148.78.247.122]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6CFag0B024141 for ; Sat, 12 Jul 2003 08:36:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from santafe.edu (vsat-148-64-12-3.c050.t7.mrt.starband.net [148.64.12.3]) by cassiopeia.email.starband.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6CFbCY9016268 for ; Sat, 12 Jul 2003 11:37:16 -0400 Message-ID: <3F102C0A.9000302@santafe.edu> Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 09:40:58 -0600 From: "Marcus G. Daniels" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: support@swarm.org Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] Re: Support digest, Vol 1 #132 - 8 msgs References: <20030708190007.1203.64264.Mailman@tigger> <20030709.084657.38699066.eiji@atr.co.jp> In-Reply-To: <20030709.084657.38699066.eiji@atr.co.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Norberto Eiji Nawa wrote: > Has anyone successfully installed the package hdf5-1.4.7 in R version > 1.7.1? I get a fatal error with a core dump (see below) whenever I try > to use hdf5load. I just tried 1.4.7 and 1.4.8 on MacOS X 10.2.6 using HDF5 1.6 (a new release). Loading and saving and reloading work fine for me... ftp://ftp.santafe.edu/pub/swarm/src/testing/hdf5_1.4.8.tar.gz From pauljohn@ku.edu Sat Jul 12 22:52:09 2003 Received: from smtp.sunflower.com (smtp.sunflower.com [24.124.0.128]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6D5q8Sc001899 for ; Sat, 12 Jul 2003 22:52:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ku.edu (236.81.cm.sunflower.com [24.124.81.236]) by smtp.sunflower.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6D5q7807240 for ; Sun, 13 Jul 2003 00:52:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3F10F25D.5010902@ku.edu> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 00:47:09 -0500 From: "Paul E. Johnson" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030618 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: support@swarm.org Subject: build hdf5-1.6.0? Re: [Swarm-Support] Re: Support digest, Vol 1 #132 - 8 msgs References: <20030708190007.1203.64264.Mailman@tigger> <20030709.084657.38699066.eiji@atr.co.jp> <3F102C0A.9000302@santafe.edu> In-Reply-To: <3F102C0A.9000302@santafe.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Could I please have a tip on how you built hdf5? I tried the ordinary way, and the Swarm build failed on the file HDF5Object because the H5T_BKG_TEMP was not found in hdf5. I did some checks and found that HDF5-1.4.5post2 had this: H5Fpublic.h: H5T_BKG_TEMP = 1, /*bkg buffer used as temp storage only */ But hdf5-1.6 has no such thing. With 1.6, I tried recompiling with the flag --enable-h5v1_4 and got the same outcome. In the hdf5-1.6.0 source code, I find the word "H5T_BKG_TEMP" in only one place, in doc/html/Datatypes.html. Marcus G. Daniels wrote: > Norberto Eiji Nawa wrote: > >> Has anyone successfully installed the package hdf5-1.4.7 in R version >> 1.7.1? I get a fatal error with a core dump (see below) whenever I >> try to use hdf5load. > > > I just tried 1.4.7 and 1.4.8 on MacOS X 10.2.6 using HDF5 1.6 (a new > release). Loading and saving and reloading work fine for me... > > ftp://ftp.santafe.edu/pub/swarm/src/testing/hdf5_1.4.8.tar.gz > > __ -- Paul E. Johnson email: pauljohn@ukans.edu Dept. of Political Science http://lark.cc.ukans.edu/~pauljohn University of Kansas Office: (785) 864-9086 Lawrence, Kansas 66045 FAX: (785) 864-5700 From artm@caracolito.artm.org Tue Jul 15 01:41:21 2003 Received: from smtp5.wanadoo.nl (smtp5.wanadoo.nl [194.134.35.176]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6F8fKSc013869 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 01:41:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from caracolito.artm.org (p3238.vwr.wanadoo.nl [212.129.224.174]) by smtp5.wanadoo.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 901377498F for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 10:41:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from caracolito.artm.org (caracolito.artm.org [127.0.0.1]) by caracolito.artm.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6F8goGo008999 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 10:42:51 +0200 Received: (from artm@localhost) by caracolito.artm.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h6F8goaj008998 for support@swarm.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 10:42:50 +0200 Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 10:42:50 +0200 From: Artem Baguinski To: support@swarm.org Message-ID: <20030715084250.GA8985@caracolito> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Subject: [Swarm-Support] building swarm without emacs Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: hello emacs is a 20M text editor. i don't want it ;) in installbook of swarm, chapter "Prerequisite Programs" i see the following: GNU Emacs. ... Emacs is needed if you want to build Swarm for Java from source code... Well, i don't per se want java support either. It would be nice to have --disable-java switch in configure. then, AC_PATH_PROG([EMACS],[emacs],[missing]), is definitelly not the way to go: missing being called with emacs' arguments gets confused and breaks build. may be the better solution would have been to forget altogether about doing all elisp compilation / running (whatever you need emacs for) if it wasn't found. i suppose that's what you tried to do substituting it with missing but it aint worked. i guess the reason was that you all (swarm developers / users) do have emacs installed and didn't notice that it doesn't work. in a mailing list i saw somebody earlier this year complaining about related problem, but this particular piece of configure.in weren't modified. now, the question is: Is it possible, theoretically speaking, to build swarm without having emacs installed? if no - a change in installbook is necessary, so people like me won't get false hopes :) if yes - i could try to come up with patch to confugure.in / Makefile.am's that allows to switch emacs/java off. i can test it easily for i have no emacs on my machine. just don't wanna start to work on that if it makes no sence. cheers, artm From paulbox@cc.usu.edu Tue Jul 15 02:43:55 2003 Received: from ms1.usu.edu (ms1.usu.edu [129.123.104.11]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6F9hsSc014119 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 02:43:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from webster.usu.edu (webster.usu.edu [129.123.1.90]) by ms1.usu.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6F9hqtN018792; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 03:43:52 -0600 X-WebMail-UserID: paulbox Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 03:43:52 -0600 From: Paul Box To: Artem Baguinski , support X-EXP32-SerialNo: 00002751 Subject: RE: [Swarm-Support] building swarm without emacs Message-ID: <3F13AC35@webster.usu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: WebMail (Hydra) SMTP v3.62 X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the USU HelpDesk for more information (http://helpdesk.usu.edu) X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (score=-3, required 5, BAYES_20, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT) Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: If you search the archives for the support mailing list, you will find that this has been addressed. I haven't built swarm from source in a while, but I have built it a couple of years ago on a machine that did not have the correct version of emacs, and I got around it by disabling java support. From artm@caracolito.artm.org Tue Jul 15 03:44:39 2003 Received: from smtp4.wanadoo.nl (smtp4.wanadoo.nl [194.134.35.175]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6FAidSc014390 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 03:44:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from caracolito.artm.org (rot2-p0368.dial.wanadoo.nl [62.234.199.112]) by smtp4.wanadoo.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A54403FFB5 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 12:44:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from caracolito.artm.org (caracolito.artm.org [127.0.0.1]) by caracolito.artm.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6FAk80A027333 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 12:46:08 +0200 Received: (from artm@localhost) by caracolito.artm.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h6FAgXXd027205 for support@swarm.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 12:42:33 +0200 Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 12:42:33 +0200 From: Artem Baguinski To: support@swarm.org Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] building swarm without emacs Message-ID: <20030715104233.GA9808@caracolito> References: <3F13AC35@webster.usu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F13AC35@webster.usu.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 03:43:52AM -0600, Paul Box wrote: > If you search the archives for the support mailing list, you will find that > this has been addressed. I haven't built swarm from source in a while, but I > have built it a couple of years ago on a machine that did not have the correct > version of emacs, and I got around it by disabling java support. > > >From a thread in 2000: > http://www.swarm.org/pipermail/support/2000-August/009036.html > ah, i didn't look good enough then, only found mentioning emacs in more recent mail... > The switch to disable java is --without-jdkdir aha! this is what i was looking for and this piece of information isn't obvious neither from installbook nor from INSTALL file. i guess it's implied there, but it wasn't enough for me :) > > Can you suggest where the installbook should be changed to make this more > clear? > now i think the right place is INSTALL file, around line 88. Anyway, disabling java doesn't help: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- make[3]: Entering directory `/home/artm/projects/alife/swarm/swarm/src' cp -f ../etc/common.el /home/artm/projects/alife/swarm/swarm/_common.el TOP_BUILDDIR='/home/artm/projects/alife/swarm/swarm' BUILDDIR='/home/artm/projects/alife/swarm/swarm/src' SWARMSRCDIR='..' missing -batch -f batch-byte-compile /home/artm/projects/alife/swarm/swarm/_common.el /bin/sh: missing: command not found make[3]: *** [/home/artm/projects/alife/swarm/swarm/common.elc] Error 127 make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/artm/projects/alife/swarm/swarm/src' make[2]: *** [all] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/artm/projects/alife/swarm/swarm/src' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/artm/projects/alife/swarm/swarm' make: *** [all] Error 2 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- you can see it still tries to call emacs (but calls missing instead). Thanks anyway. From mgd@santafe.edu Tue Jul 15 04:41:31 2003 Received: from cepheus.email.starband.net (cepheus.email.starband.net [148.78.247.123]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6FBfUSc014647 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 04:41:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from santafe.edu (vsat-148-64-12-3.c050.t7.mrt.starband.net [148.64.12.3]) by cepheus.email.starband.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6FBfhDK021761 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 07:41:46 -0400 Message-ID: <3F13E99B.2050001@santafe.edu> Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 05:46:35 -0600 From: "Marcus G. Daniels" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: support@swarm.org Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] building swarm without emacs References: <3F13AC35@webster.usu.edu> <20030715104233.GA9808@caracolito> In-Reply-To: <20030715104233.GA9808@caracolito> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Artem Baguinski wrote: >you can see it still tries to call emacs > Emacs is required to build Swarm from source code. From artm@caracolito.artm.org Tue Jul 15 05:43:29 2003 Received: from smtp4.wanadoo.nl (smtp4.wanadoo.nl [194.134.35.175]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6FChSSc014926 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 05:43:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from caracolito.artm.org (i2173.vwr.wanadoo.nl [194.134.216.134]) by smtp4.wanadoo.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 030123F4F4; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 14:43:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from caracolito.artm.org (caracolito.artm.org [127.0.0.1]) by caracolito.artm.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6FCiu7b028556; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 14:44:56 +0200 Received: (from artm@localhost) by caracolito.artm.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h6FCi7qD028454; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 14:44:07 +0200 Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 14:44:07 +0200 From: Artem Baguinski To: "Marcus G. Daniels" Cc: support@swarm.org Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] building swarm without emacs Message-ID: <20030715124407.GA28445@caracolito> References: <3F13AC35@webster.usu.edu> <20030715104233.GA9808@caracolito> <3F13E99B.2050001@santafe.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F13E99B.2050001@santafe.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 05:46:35AM -0600, Marcus G. Daniels wrote: > Artem Baguinski wrote: > > >you can see it still tries to call emacs > > > Emacs is required to build Swarm from source code. > ah pity then the chapter 2 of install book shouldn't say that emacs is only necessary if one wants java swarm. could you please explain what you use emacs there for? couldn't something lighter and wider-spread be used for that? sorry if i sound complaining, but i'm about to install 20M of a text-editor just to compile a library and my internet connection is slow and expensive :( From mgd@santafe.edu Tue Jul 15 06:51:06 2003 Received: from cepheus.email.starband.net (cepheus.email.starband.net [148.78.247.123]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6FDp5Sc015223 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 06:51:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from santafe.edu (vsat-148-64-12-3.c050.t7.mrt.starband.net [148.64.12.3]) by cepheus.email.starband.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6FDoxDK011527 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 09:51:20 -0400 Message-ID: <3F1407E7.6090203@santafe.edu> Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 07:55:51 -0600 From: "Marcus G. Daniels" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: support@swarm.org Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] building swarm without emacs References: <3F13AC35@webster.usu.edu> <20030715104233.GA9808@caracolito> <3F13E99B.2050001@santafe.edu> <20030715124407.GA28445@caracolito> In-Reply-To: <20030715124407.GA28445@caracolito> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Artem Baguinski wrote: >i'm about to install 20M of a text-editor just to compile a library and my internet connection is slow and expensive :( > > > I would suggest getting a CD-ROM of your Linux distribution. That way you can have tools you may need on hand. From artm@caracolito.artm.org Tue Jul 15 07:13:29 2003 Received: from smtp4.wanadoo.nl (smtp4.wanadoo.nl [194.134.35.175]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6FEDTSc015326 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 07:13:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from caracolito.artm.org (rot2-p2472.dial.wanadoo.nl [194.134.139.168]) by smtp4.wanadoo.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBC28401F0 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 16:13:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from caracolito.artm.org (caracolito.artm.org [127.0.0.1]) by caracolito.artm.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6FEF00W029307 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 16:15:00 +0200 Received: (from artm@localhost) by caracolito.artm.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h6FEF0CN029306 for support@swarm.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 16:15:00 +0200 Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 16:15:00 +0200 From: Artem Baguinski To: support@swarm.org Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] building swarm without emacs Message-ID: <20030715141500.GA29296@caracolito> References: <3F13AC35@webster.usu.edu> <20030715104233.GA9808@caracolito> <3F13E99B.2050001@santafe.edu> <20030715124407.GA28445@caracolito> <3F1407E7.6090203@santafe.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F1407E7.6090203@santafe.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 07:55:51AM -0600, Marcus G. Daniels wrote: > Artem Baguinski wrote: > > >i'm about to install 20M of a text-editor just to compile a library and my > >internet connection is slow and expensive :( > > > I would suggest getting a CD-ROM of your Linux distribution. That way > you can have tools you may need on hand. > yeah, that could be a way, but in my Linux distribution (gentoo) the official way to install anything is to compile from sources downloaded from the site, precompiled binaries exist but users are discouraged from using them (otherwise why would they use such distribution). and i'm still curious what made emacs a tool of choice for whatever you use it for while building swarm? From herrmann_jan@gmx.de Tue Jul 15 07:59:44 2003 Received: from mx0.gmx.net (mx0.gmx.de [213.165.64.100]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h6FExhSc015604 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 07:59:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 3173 invoked by uid 0); 15 Jul 2003 14:59:37 -0000 Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 16:59:37 +0200 (MEST) From: Jan Herrmann To: support@swarm.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20030715141500.GA29296@caracolito> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Authenticated-Sender: #0007556246@gmx.net X-Authenticated-IP: [141.84.116.101] Message-ID: <2450.1058281177@www14.gmx.net> X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 1.6 (Global Message Exchange) X-Flags: 0001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [Swarm-Support] extending the swarm-java api Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Hello everybody, I'm working on a project in which I want to build an interface between ArcGis and swarm (The aim is to make vector data available in swarm simulations). Therefore it would be helpful to have more java classes like JDBC/ODBC and Java Topology Suite. I heard that all java classes in swarm are kind of macros to objective C. Are there any documents where the realisation of the java interface for swarm is described or how one can extend the javaswarm libs. Thanks for your support greets Jan -- +++ GMX - Mail, Messaging & more http://www.gmx.net +++ Jetzt ein- oder umsteigen und USB-Speicheruhr als Prämie sichern! From mgd@santafe.edu Tue Jul 15 08:28:16 2003 Received: from pele.santafe.edu (pele.santafe.edu [192.12.12.119]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6FFSFSc015780 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 08:28:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from santafe.edu (condor [192.12.12.110]) by pele.santafe.edu (8.11.7+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6FFSE903640 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 09:28:14 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <3F141D8D.1040702@santafe.edu> Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 09:28:13 -0600 From: "Marcus G. Daniels" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:1.5a) Gecko/20030709 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: support@swarm.org Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] building swarm without emacs References: <3F13AC35@webster.usu.edu> <20030715104233.GA9808@caracolito> <3F13E99B.2050001@santafe.edu> <20030715124407.GA28445@caracolito> <3F1407E7.6090203@santafe.edu> <20030715141500.GA29296@caracolito> In-Reply-To: <20030715141500.GA29296@caracolito> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Artem Baguinski wrote: >and i'm still curious what made emacs a tool of choice for whatever you >use it for while building swarm? > Emacs, as used as a informed and programmable text processor (as opposed to an interactive editor), is more versatile than tools like Perl and Awk because it knows how to in and out of and forward and backward through expressions (e.g. Objective C code). Other popular text processing tools tend to be line oriented and ignorant of structure. It also has a real programming language, Lisp with a large library of functions. From mgd@santafe.edu Tue Jul 15 08:32:07 2003 Received: from pele.santafe.edu (pele.santafe.edu [192.12.12.119]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6FFW6Sc015826 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 08:32:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from santafe.edu (condor [192.12.12.110]) by pele.santafe.edu (8.11.7+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6FFW6903855 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 09:32:06 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <3F141E75.7020605@santafe.edu> Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 09:32:05 -0600 From: "Marcus G. Daniels" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:1.5a) Gecko/20030709 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: support@swarm.org Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] extending the swarm-java api References: <20030715141500.GA29296@caracolito> <2450.1058281177@www14.gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <2450.1058281177@www14.gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Jan Herrmann wrote: >I'm working on a project in which I want to build an interface between >ArcGis and swarm (The aim is to make vector data available in swarm simulations). >Therefore it would be helpful to have more java classes like JDBC/ODBC and >Java Topology Suite. I heard that all java classes in swarm are kind of macros >to objective C. Are there any documents where the realisation of the java >interface for swarm is described or how one can extend the javaswarm libs. > If your project is Java based, then all you have to do is use those libraires. The Java/Swarm part is just another library (that happens to be native code). From alex@swarm.org Tue Jul 15 14:26:58 2003 Received: from allele2.biol.berkeley.edu (IDENT:0@allele2.Biol.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.109.24]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6FLQvSc017459 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 14:26:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allele2.biol.berkeley.edu (IDENT:1013@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by allele2.biol.berkeley.edu (8.12.9/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h6FLQt10000495 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 14:26:56 -0700 Received: (from alex@localhost) by allele2.biol.berkeley.edu (8.12.9/8.12.4/Submit) id h6FLQt9d000492; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 14:26:55 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: allele2.biol.berkeley.edu: alex set sender to alex@swarm.org using -f To: support@swarm.org Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] building swarm without emacs References: <20030715084250.GA8985@caracolito> From: Alex Lancaster Organization: Swarm Development Group Date: 15 Jul 2003 14:26:55 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20030715084250.GA8985@caracolito> Message-ID: <7uptkbwkf4.fsf@allele2.biol.berkeley.edu> Lines: 54 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: >>>>> "AB" == Artem Baguinski writes: AB> hello emacs is a 20M text editor. i don't want it ;) AB> in installbook of swarm, chapter "Prerequisite Programs" i see the AB> following: AB> GNU Emacs. ... Emacs is needed if you want to build Swarm for AB> Java from source code... AB> Well, i don't per se want java support either. It would be nice to AB> have --disable-java switch in configure. --disable-jdkdir should probably do the same thing as --without-jdkdir. We should probably put that in the INSTALL file. AB> then, AC_PATH_PROG([EMACS],[emacs],[missing]), is definitelly not AB> the way to go: missing being called with emacs' arguments gets AB> confused and breaks build. may be the better solution would have AB> been to forget altogether about doing all elisp compilation / AB> running (whatever you need emacs for) if it wasn't found. i AB> suppose that's what you tried to do substituting it with missing AB> but it aint worked. AB> i guess the reason was that you all (swarm developers / users) do AB> have emacs installed and didn't notice that it doesn't work. in a AB> mailing list i saw somebody earlier this year complaining about AB> related problem, but this particular piece of configure.in weren't AB> modified. AB> now, the question is: Is it possible, theoretically speaking, to AB> build swarm without having emacs installed? AB> if no - a change in installbook is necessary, so people like me AB> won't get false hopes :) Currently Emacs is required even for non-Java builds, I believe if you're building from source. What platform are you using? If you are on a Linux or Windows machine, why not use a pre-built binary of a snapshot release? See: http://www.swarm.org/release-swarm-snapshot.html AB> if yes - i could try to come up with patch to confugure.in / AB> Makefile.am's that allows to switch emacs/java off. i can test it AB> easily for i have no emacs on my machine. just don't wanna start AB> to work on that if it makes no sence. The path of least resistance for you will be to install Emacs. Really. Alex From pauljohn@ku.edu Tue Jul 15 20:23:22 2003 Received: from smtp.sunflower.com (smtp.sunflower.com [24.124.0.128]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6G3NLSc019005 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 20:23:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ku.edu (236.81.cm.sunflower.com [24.124.81.236]) by smtp.sunflower.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6G3NK823830 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 22:23:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3F14C3F1.4000804@ku.edu> Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 22:18:09 -0500 From: "Paul E. Johnson" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030618 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: swarm-support Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Swarm-Support] Swarm-2.1.146 (20030715) available Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Just rolled up the Swarm source and built RPM too. This still needs hdf5-1.4.5 because I found some wrinkles with hdf5-1.6.0 that are not solved yet. I don't think there are new features or troubles here, just more of the same--fewer compiler warnings, better Macintosh support. http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn/Swarm/Swarm-2.2x_RH9.0/swarm-2.1.146.20030715-3RH9.0.i386.rpm look in the same directory for swarm-jdk, swarm-gcj, and swarm-static. For reasons I do not understand, this machine does not make the debuginfo packages anymore, but I don't know anybody that was using them, so forget about it :) The src.rpm file has the source code and spec file, in case you want to rebuild, but I also put the source here: ftp://ftp.swarm.org/pub/swarm/src/testing/swarm-2.1.146.20030715.tar.gz Apologies in advance for mistakes and omissions. -- Paul E. Johnson email: pauljohn@ukans.edu Dept. of Political Science http://lark.cc.ukans.edu/~pauljohn University of Kansas Office: (785) 864-9086 Lawrence, Kansas 66045 FAX: (785) 864-5700 From artm@caracolito.artm.org Tue Jul 15 23:37:18 2003 Received: from smtp5.wanadoo.nl (smtp5.wanadoo.nl [194.134.35.176]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6G6bHSc019744 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 23:37:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from caracolito.artm.org (i0954.vwr.wanadoo.nl [194.134.211.190]) by smtp5.wanadoo.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 548AF75433 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 08:37:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from caracolito.artm.org (caracolito.artm.org [127.0.0.1]) by caracolito.artm.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6G6coQs006483 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 08:38:51 +0200 Received: (from artm@localhost) by caracolito.artm.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h6G6cofK006482 for support@swarm.org; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 08:38:50 +0200 Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 08:38:50 +0200 From: Artem Baguinski To: support@swarm.org Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] building swarm without emacs Message-ID: <20030716063850.GC6440@caracolito> References: <20030715084250.GA8985@caracolito> <7uptkbwkf4.fsf@allele2.biol.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7uptkbwkf4.fsf@allele2.biol.berkeley.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 02:26:55PM -0700, Alex Lancaster wrote: > >>>>> "AB" == Artem Baguinski writes: > Currently Emacs is required even for non-Java builds, I believe if > you're building from source. yep, i figured > > What platform are you using? If you are on a Linux or Windows > machine, why not use a pre-built binary of a snapshot release? See: > > http://www.swarm.org/release-swarm-snapshot.html hmm. i'll consider that > > AB> if yes - i could try to come up with patch to confugure.in / > AB> Makefile.am's that allows to switch emacs/java off. i can test it > AB> easily for i have no emacs on my machine. just don't wanna start > AB> to work on that if it makes no sence. > > The path of least resistance for you will be to install Emacs. > Really. :) i'll do that as well thanks everybody for answers, i'm satisfied with info i've got, thread is closed, cheers, artm :wq From paulbox@cc.usu.edu Wed Jul 16 00:39:35 2003 Received: from ms1.usu.edu (ms1.usu.edu [129.123.104.11]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6G7dYSc020035 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 00:39:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from webster.usu.edu (webster.usu.edu [129.123.1.90]) by ms1.usu.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6G7dVtN027014; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 01:39:31 -0600 X-WebMail-UserID: paulbox Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 01:39:31 -0600 From: Paul Box To: Artem Baguinski , support X-EXP32-SerialNo: 00002751 Subject: RE: [Swarm-Support] building swarm without emacs Message-ID: <3F14F9D8@webster.usu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: WebMail (Hydra) SMTP v3.62 X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the USU HelpDesk for more information (http://helpdesk.usu.edu) X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (score=0, required 5) Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: > >thanks everybody for answers, >i'm satisfied with info i've got, >thread is closed, >cheers, >artm >:wq > and a ^X^C to you as well ;-) //////////////////////////////////////// // Paul Box // Aquatic, Watershed, and Earth Resources // Utah State University From mrinals@pune.tcs.co.in Wed Jul 16 02:48:37 2003 Received: from exchange5-5.pune.tcs.co.in (dns.pune.tcs.co.in [202.54.11.171]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6G9mXSc020554 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 02:48:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from punemail.pune.tcs.co.in (PUNEMAIL [172.17.206.4]) by exchange5-5.pune.tcs.co.in with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id NXG0ZTB9; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 15:25:13 +0530 Received: from MRINALS ([172.17.203.37]) by punemail.pune.tcs.co.in (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.6a) with SMTP id 2003071615260790:70085 ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 15:26:07 +0530 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 15:25:50 -0000 Message-ID: <01C34BAE.8986EE60.mrinals@pune.tcs.co.in> From: Mrinal Singh To: "'support@swarm.org'" Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 15:25:49 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on PUNEMAIL/TCSPUNE/TCS(Release 5.0.6a |January 17, 2001) at 07/16/2003 03:26:08 PM, Serialize by Router on PUNEMAIL/TCSPUNE/TCS(Release 5.0.6a |January 17, 2001) at 07/16/2003 03:26:09 PM, Serialize complete at 07/16/2003 03:26:09 PM Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: [Swarm-Support] 3-D Representation Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Hi 1. Is it possible to represent the agents moving in 3-D space using swarm? (I mean a 3-D raster and lattice) 2.How is it that I can generate Landscapes (3-D) using the data generated from my agents? Are there some add-on that can help me with this kind of data representation as surfaces? I kind of went over glen's 3-d lib. But I am using a swarm binary and the patch does not work? Should download the source and build and then patch (eeeeks 8-) or there any other solutions. Will this solve my primary problem in the first place? (I use a windows-2000 machine) regards Mrinal From pauljohn@ku.edu Wed Jul 16 07:36:46 2003 Received: from smtp.sunflower.com (smtp.sunflower.com [24.124.0.128]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6GEajSc021671 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 07:36:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ku.edu (236.81.cm.sunflower.com [24.124.81.236]) by smtp.sunflower.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6GEah823829 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 09:36:44 -0500 Message-ID: <3F1561C4.3080907@ku.edu> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 09:31:32 -0500 From: "Paul E. Johnson" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030618 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: support@swarm.org Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] 3-D Representation References: <01C34BAE.8986EE60.mrinals@pune.tcs.co.in> In-Reply-To: <01C34BAE.8986EE60.mrinals@pune.tcs.co.in> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Mrinal Singh wrote: >I kind of went over glen's 3-d lib. But I am using a swarm binary and the >patch does not work? Should download the source and build and then patch >(eeeeks 8-) or there any other solutions. Will this solve my primary >problem in the first place? > > I don't know about that library. What features does it provide? -- Paul E. Johnson email: pauljohn@ukans.edu Dept. of Political Science http://lark.cc.ukans.edu/~pauljohn University of Kansas Office: (785) 864-9086 Lawrence, Kansas 66045 FAX: (785) 864-5700 From mgd@santafe.edu Wed Jul 16 08:10:06 2003 Received: from pele.santafe.edu (pele.santafe.edu [192.12.12.119]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6GFA5Sc021828 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 08:10:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from santafe.edu (condor [192.12.12.110]) by pele.santafe.edu (8.11.7+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6GFA5904044 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 09:10:05 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <3F156ACC.2060303@santafe.edu> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 09:10:04 -0600 From: "Marcus G. Daniels" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:1.5a) Gecko/20030709 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: support@swarm.org Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] 3-D Representation References: <01C34BAE.8986EE60.mrinals@pune.tcs.co.in> In-Reply-To: <01C34BAE.8986EE60.mrinals@pune.tcs.co.in> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Mrinal Singh wrote: >1. Is it possible to represent the agents moving in 3-D space using swarm? > You might consider Java 3D, or a higher level library built on Java 3D.. http://java.sun.com/products/java-media/3D http://www.web3d.org/TaskGroups/source/xj3d.html From mrinals@pune.tcs.co.in Wed Jul 16 09:01:45 2003 Received: from exchange5-5.pune.tcs.co.in (dns.pune.tcs.co.in [202.54.11.171]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6GG1SSc022072 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 09:01:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from punemail.pune.tcs.co.in (PUNEMAIL [172.17.206.4]) by exchange5-5.pune.tcs.co.in with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id NXG0ZXWN; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 21:38:17 +0530 Received: from MRINALS ([172.17.203.37]) by punemail.pune.tcs.co.in (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.6a) with SMTP id 2003071621390856:74864 ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 21:39:08 +0530 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 21:38:50 -0000 Message-ID: <01C34BE2.A51E62F0.mrinals@pune.tcs.co.in> From: Mrinal Singh To: "'support@swarm.org'" Subject: RE: [Swarm-Support] 3-D Representation Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 21:38:49 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on PUNEMAIL/TCSPUNE/TCS(Release 5.0.6a |January 17, 2001) at 07/16/2003 09:39:08 PM, Serialize by Router on PUNEMAIL/TCSPUNE/TCS(Release 5.0.6a |January 17, 2001) at 07/16/2003 09:39:14 PM Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01C34BE2.A51E62F0" Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: ------ =_NextPart_000_01C34BE2.A51E62F0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi I am refering to 3dLib-0.1.tar.gz. I am attaching the readme file of the 3d demo. I am also attaching gif of the kind of representation I am looking for. regards 3dDemo App This is a *very* simple demo to illustrate usage of the Discrete3d class. It fully implements and uses a 3d discrete space. The code is commented only in places where using this space would be different from how a Discrete2d might be used. Hence, if you see a piece of code in this demo that you don't understand and is not commented, you will find very good explanations in one of the other demos. The comments of interest begin with "// 3d-specific:". The problem that naturally accompanies a class like this is how to visualize that space. This is a complex issue and no attempt to solve it was made in this demo or in the 3dLib. Sometime later, this problem will be addressed in a general way. What is in place in this demo is a projection of all the agents onto the (x,y) plane, which is displayed by the raster. This makes probing on the fly impossible because the Object2dDisplay sends a "getObjectAtX:Y:" message to the space in order to make a probe for that object. There are a number of ways to get around this and retain the projection visualization. Probing on the fly could be handled by sub-classing from Object2dDisplay and creating a method that is capable of taking slices out of the 3d space. All that would be required is a method that dynamically built a collection of agents that reside on that slice at any given time step, then perform a makeProbe on each agent in that collection. Or, if one desires a probe at any given (x,y), the subclass of Object2dDisplay could provide a method that accepted a collection from the "getObjectAtX:Y:" message to the space. Then the collection would have to be parsed and each member probed. This would be like taking a linear subspace of the 3d space. Other noteworthy peculiarities: - A neighborhood of an agent is the 3d equivalent of a 2d Moore neighborhood. That means that an agent can move from where it is to any of 9*3 surrounding cells (including the one it's currently in). - A "trail-duster" was added to the agents so that they cache the spot they occupied last iteration and blacken it each time they move. This results in some loss of data if one agent occludes another then moves out of the way in the next iteration. If that movement happens after the occluded agent draws itself on the raster, the agent that did the occluding will blacken the cell, thereby showing a black cell even though there's an agent back there somewhere. This is trivial to fix; but, it serves as an example of the type of problems 3d visualization presents. This is just a contribution to give others an idea of how they can implement a 3d space. It is by no means the last word on 3d spaces. -----Original Message----- From: Paul E. Johnson [SMTP:pauljohn@ku.edu] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 8:02 PM To: support@swarm.org Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] 3-D Representation Mrinal Singh wrote: >I kind of went over glen's 3-d lib. But I am using a swarm binary and the >patch does not work? Should download the source and build and then patch >(eeeeks 8-) or there any other solutions. Will this solve my primary >problem in the first place? > > I don't know about that library. What features does it provide? -- Paul E. 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2003 15:32:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ku.edu by lark.cc.ku.edu (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/12Jan95-0207PM) id RAA0000023960; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 17:32:45 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3F15D336.4040308@ku.edu> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 17:35:34 -0500 From: Paul E Johnson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030618 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: support@swarm.org Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] 3-D Representation References: <01C34BE2.A51E62F0.mrinals@pune.tcs.co.in> In-Reply-To: <01C34BE2.A51E62F0.mrinals@pune.tcs.co.in> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: I was freaked out there for a minute. I thought you meant somebody produced that 3d picture "graph.gif" with Swarm. The 3dlib you refer to implements positional record keeping, but does not do any of the work of drawing the image onto a beautiful picture. Has anybody used Swarm to make a 3d picture? It seems to me that drawing a 3d picture like that during a simulation would make it really slow, wouldn't it? If you run a program to draw a picture like that from a dataset, it is usually not speedy... Makes me wish there were a blt 3d component we could hook up. If this were my project, I would be inclined to say that the simulation should be in Swarm, but you should output the positional data and make the beautiful 3d picture with some other program that is intended for 3d pictures. I have a really great commercial stat package called S+ that can do that, and its free cousin R can do it, but not so easily. I saw some great graphs of that sort in a SAS presentation lately. Mrinal Singh wrote: > Hi > I am refering to 3dLib-0.1.tar.gz. I am attaching the readme file of the 3d > demo. I am also attaching gif of the kind of representation I am looking > for. > > regards > > 3dDemo App > > This is a *very* simple demo to illustrate usage of the Discrete3d > class. It fully implements and uses a 3d discrete space. The code is > commented only in places where using this space would be different > from how a Discrete2d might be used. Hence, if you see a piece of > code in this demo that you don't understand and is not commented, you > will find very good explanations in one of the other demos. The > comments of interest begin with "// 3d-specific:". > -- Paul E. Johnson email: pauljohn@ku.edu Dept. of Political Science http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn 1541 Lilac Lane, Rm 504 University of Kansas Office: (785) 864-9086 Lawrence, Kansas 66044-3177 FAX: (785) 864-5700 From mgd@santafe.edu Wed Jul 16 15:51:18 2003 Received: from pele.santafe.edu (pele.santafe.edu [192.12.12.119]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6GMpHSc023847 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 15:51:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from santafe.edu (condor [192.12.12.110]) by pele.santafe.edu (8.11.7+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6GMpG918671 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 16:51:16 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <3F15D6E3.1080005@santafe.edu> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 16:51:15 -0600 From: "Marcus G. Daniels" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:1.5a) Gecko/20030709 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: support@swarm.org Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] 3-D Representation References: <01C34BE2.A51E62F0.mrinals@pune.tcs.co.in> <3F15D336.4040308@ku.edu> In-Reply-To: <3F15D336.4040308@ku.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Paul E Johnson wrote: > Makes me wish there were a blt 3d component we could hook up. http://www.mesa3d.org From artm@caracolito.artm.org Thu Jul 17 00:06:43 2003 Received: from smtp6.wanadoo.nl (smtp6.wanadoo.nl [194.134.35.177]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6H76gSc025808 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 00:06:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from caracolito.artm.org (rot2-p0333.dial.wanadoo.nl [62.234.199.77]) by smtp6.wanadoo.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31916769F4 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 09:06:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from caracolito.artm.org (caracolito.artm.org [127.0.0.1]) by caracolito.artm.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6H77hPJ006584 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 09:07:46 +0200 Received: (from artm@localhost) by caracolito.artm.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h6H77fB8006583 for support@swarm.org; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 09:07:41 +0200 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 09:07:41 +0200 From: Artem Baguinski To: support@swarm.org Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] 3-D Representation Message-ID: <20030717070741.GA6491@caracolito> References: <01C34BE2.A51E62F0.mrinals@pune.tcs.co.in> <3F15D336.4040308@ku.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F15D336.4040308@ku.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 05:35:34PM -0500, Paul E Johnson wrote: > I was freaked out there for a minute. I thought you meant somebody > produced that 3d picture "graph.gif" with Swarm. The 3dlib you refer to > implements positional record keeping, but does not do any of the work > of drawing the image onto a beautiful picture. > > Has anybody used Swarm to make a 3d picture? i'm interested in using Swarm in real time 3D graphics software. being employed in a new media art lab, i'm interested in finding new ways of creation "interesting" graphics, audio, text :-) and now and then i spawn myself in a side projects when i have a hunch that they can deliver something new. so, I'm about to start such a new project, just need some time to get accuainted with swarm. The idea is to visualize swarm based models in fancy 3D. Since art is my domain I can sacrifice some accuracy of visualization in favor of fanciness, may be my approach isn't that useful for serious scientists. > It seems to me that drawing a 3d picture like that during a simulation > would make it really slow, wouldn't it? If you run a program to draw a > picture like that from a dataset, it is usually not speedy... that picture is way simple for modern (graphics) hardware. although it depends of course what for parameters are visualized. it is statistics calculations that may take a lot of CPU, but I'm guessing, if you design your model taking the stats your interested in into account, you can optimize statistics calculation and make real time visualization possible, wether in 3 or in 2 dimensions. the application may be build that way that stats computations are only made if stats-swarm is requested (if i got it right that's the way you deal with GUI in swarm). then one can run simulation without stats / visualization for some time, save results and restart with visualizer to see what happenned to the model while (s)he was not looking. [here i imagine a model that slowly changes in time, like ecosystem for example]. > > Makes me wish there were a blt 3d component we could hook up. > GNU Maverik is a good GPLed virtual reality library. it's written in object oriented manner in C, i guess wraping it, or part of it, in Objective-C could provide swarm with nice framework for realtime 3D visualization. http://aig.cs.man.ac.uk/maverik/ > If this were my project, I would be inclined to say that the simulation > should be in Swarm, but you should output the positional data and make > the beautiful 3d picture with some other program that is intended for 3d > pictures. I have a really great commercial stat package called S+ that > can do that, and its free cousin R can do it, but not so easily. I saw > some great graphs of that sort in a SAS presentation lately. If stats you wanna see are really complicated, then this is definitelly the way too go. From artm@caracolito.artm.org Thu Jul 17 01:05:20 2003 Received: from smtp6.wanadoo.nl (smtp6.wanadoo.nl [194.134.35.177]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6H85JSc026058 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 01:05:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from caracolito.artm.org (p2739.vwr.wanadoo.nl [194.134.218.188]) by smtp6.wanadoo.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A729176A68 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 10:05:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from caracolito.artm.org (caracolito.artm.org [127.0.0.1]) by caracolito.artm.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6H86QJS007008 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 10:06:28 +0200 Received: (from artm@localhost) by caracolito.artm.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h6H86O50007007 for support@swarm.org; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 10:06:24 +0200 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 10:06:24 +0200 From: Artem Baguinski To: support@swarm.org Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] building swarm without emacs Message-ID: <20030717080624.GA6808@caracolito> References: <3F13AC35@webster.usu.edu> <20030715104233.GA9808@caracolito> <3F13E99B.2050001@santafe.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F13E99B.2050001@santafe.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 05:46:35AM -0600, Marcus G. Daniels wrote: > Artem Baguinski wrote: > > >you can see it still tries to call emacs > > > Emacs is required to build Swarm from source code. and another software not mentioned neither in install book nor in INSTALL: gperf. it is mentioned in macosx/README.MacOSX, but as i use linux i didn't read that file. and configure doesn't check for this program either. src/defobj/Makefile.am just uses it like that assuming i have it. From artm@caracolito.artm.org Thu Jul 17 01:40:07 2003 Received: from smtp6.wanadoo.nl (smtp6.wanadoo.nl [194.134.35.177]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6H8e6Sc026225 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 01:40:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from caracolito.artm.org (i2096.vwr.wanadoo.nl [194.134.216.57]) by smtp6.wanadoo.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8347F762AD for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 10:39:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from caracolito.artm.org (caracolito.artm.org [127.0.0.1]) by caracolito.artm.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6H8fWhk017786 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 10:41:32 +0200 Received: (from artm@localhost) by caracolito.artm.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h6H8fV03017785 for support@swarm.org; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 10:41:31 +0200 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 10:41:31 +0200 From: Artem Baguinski To: support@swarm.org Message-ID: <20030717084131.GA17770@caracolito> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Subject: [Swarm-Support] undefined reference to `swarm_lookup_module' Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: hi while building i get "undefined reference to `swarm_lookup_module'" error in "/home/artm/projects/alife/swarm/swarm/tools" directory. in ML archives this problem is mentioned but i couldn't find the solution. may be somebody remembers what (s)he had to do to make it disappear? i've got: sun-jdk-1.4.1.01 gcc version 3.2.3 20030422 (Gentoo Linux 1.4 3.2.3-r1, propolice) GNU Emacs 21.3.1 GNU gperf 2.7.2 (i've got the feeling from emails that these are relevant tools) From artm@caracolito.artm.org Thu Jul 17 01:57:57 2003 Received: from smtp4.wanadoo.nl (smtp4.wanadoo.nl [194.134.35.175]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6H8vvSc026327 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 01:57:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from caracolito.artm.org (i1079.vwr.wanadoo.nl [194.134.212.60]) by smtp4.wanadoo.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC8AA4026F for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 10:57:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from caracolito.artm.org (caracolito.artm.org [127.0.0.1]) by caracolito.artm.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6H8xV2m023233 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 10:59:32 +0200 Received: (from artm@localhost) by caracolito.artm.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h6H8xVaw023232 for support@swarm.org; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 10:59:31 +0200 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 10:59:31 +0200 From: Artem Baguinski To: support@swarm.org Message-ID: <20030717085931.GA20797@caracolito> References: <20030717084131.GA17770@caracolito> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030717084131.GA17770@caracolito> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Subject: [Swarm-Support] Update: undefined reference to `swarm_lookup_module' Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: i just figured out what was the problem: from older, unsuccessful attempts to build swarm i've got a leftover - src/defobj/modulemap.c which was empty. "make clean" won't remove him, so it won't get build even after i've got me emacs. i get somewhat further with building swarm now On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 10:41:31AM +0200, Artem Baguinski wrote: > hi > > while building i get "undefined reference to `swarm_lookup_module'" > error in "/home/artm/projects/alife/swarm/swarm/tools" directory. in ML > archives this problem is mentioned but i couldn't find the solution. may > be somebody remembers what (s)he had to do to make it disappear? > > i've got: > > sun-jdk-1.4.1.01 > gcc version 3.2.3 20030422 (Gentoo Linux 1.4 3.2.3-r1, propolice) > GNU Emacs 21.3.1 > GNU gperf 2.7.2 > > (i've got the feeling from emails that these are relevant tools) > From pauljohn@ku.edu Thu Jul 17 09:22:24 2003 Received: from smtp.sunflower.com (smtp.sunflower.com [24.124.0.128]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6HGMNSc028118 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 09:22:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ku.edu (236.81.cm.sunflower.com [24.124.81.236]) by smtp.sunflower.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6HGML808647 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:22:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3F16CC29.3000509@ku.edu> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:17:45 -0500 From: Paul Johnson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030225 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: support@swarm.org Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] 3-D Representation References: <01C34BE2.A51E62F0.mrinals@pune.tcs.co.in> <3F15D336.4040308@ku.edu> <20030717070741.GA6491@caracolito> In-Reply-To: <20030717070741.GA6491@caracolito> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org X-Reply-To: pauljohn@ku.edu List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Great. How about you look at the ballet dancing project Tina Yu and I did this last spring. http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn/Swarm/MySwarmCode/Dancer/ There is a Swarm model with dancers and they follow certain aesthetic rules that Tina created. I was using the 2d graph library to show the dancers as ovals on a square. I outputted the information about their positions and such to a data file, and Tina made a quick time movie of the dance with a program called lifeform. That showed stick people frolicking about. I think it would be cool if you could write a 3d thing to directly attach to swarm to make the same representation. Maybe you could use the dancer model since it is already a working prototype. A slightly abbreviated version of that paper was published in an art journal called YLEM about a month ago. That dancer model has one feature that i think is really interesting from a Swarm scheduling point of view. Each dancer chooses "steps" from a repertoire. Some steps take one unit of time, others take more. So this code features a sort of dynamic scheduling in which each dancer chooses a step, and then only when that step is finished, will the dancer choose another step. All of the dancers are operating on individualized time sequences, i suppose I mean to say. Artem Baguinski wrote: > On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 05:35:34PM -0500, Paul E Johnson wrote: > >>I was freaked out there for a minute. I thought you meant somebody >>produced that 3d picture "graph.gif" with Swarm. The 3dlib you refer to >> implements positional record keeping, but does not do any of the work >>of drawing the image onto a beautiful picture. >> >>Has anybody used Swarm to make a 3d picture? > > > i'm interested in using Swarm in real time 3D graphics software. > > being employed in a new media art lab, i'm interested in finding new > ways of creation "interesting" graphics, audio, text :-) and now and > then i spawn myself in a side projects when i have a hunch that > they can deliver something new. > > so, I'm about to start such a new project, just need some time to get > accuainted with swarm. The idea is to visualize swarm based models in > fancy 3D. Since art is my domain I can sacrifice some accuracy of > visualization in favor of fanciness, may be my approach isn't that > useful for serious scientists. > > >>It seems to me that drawing a 3d picture like that during a simulation >>would make it really slow, wouldn't it? If you run a program to draw a >>picture like that from a dataset, it is usually not speedy... > > > that picture is way simple for modern (graphics) hardware. although it > depends of course what for parameters are visualized. it is statistics > calculations that may take a lot of CPU, but I'm guessing, if you design > your model taking the stats your interested in into account, you can > optimize statistics calculation and make real time visualization > possible, wether in 3 or in 2 dimensions. > > the application may be build that way that stats computations are only > made if stats-swarm is requested (if i got it right that's the way you > deal with GUI in swarm). then one can run simulation without stats / > visualization for some time, save results and restart with visualizer to > see what happenned to the model while (s)he was not looking. [here i > imagine a model that slowly changes in time, like ecosystem for > example]. > > >>Makes me wish there were a blt 3d component we could hook up. >> > > > GNU Maverik is a good GPLed virtual reality library. it's written in object > oriented manner in C, i guess wraping it, or part of it, in Objective-C > could provide swarm with nice framework for realtime 3D visualization. > > http://aig.cs.man.ac.uk/maverik/ > > >>If this were my project, I would be inclined to say that the simulation >>should be in Swarm, but you should output the positional data and make >>the beautiful 3d picture with some other program that is intended for 3d >>pictures. I have a really great commercial stat package called S+ that >>can do that, and its free cousin R can do it, but not so easily. I saw >>some great graphs of that sort in a SAS presentation lately. > > > If stats you wanna see are really complicated, then this is definitelly > the way too go. > > _______________________________________________ > Support mailing list > Support@swarm.org > http://www.swarm.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul E. Johnson email: pauljohn@ukans.edu Dept. of Political Science http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn University of Kansas Office: (785) 864-9086 Lawrence, Kansas 66045 FAX: (785) 864-5700 From aramos@insys-corp.com.mx Thu Jul 17 10:53:19 2003 Received: from dns.insys-corp.com.mx (cancerbero.insys-corp.com.mx [148.233.3.210]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6HHrISc028511 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 10:53:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from osiris.insys-corp.com.mx by dns.insys-corp.com.mx via smtpd (for tigger.cbr.washington.edu [140.142.159.41]) with ESMTP; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:59:20 -0500 Received: by osiris with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <38B3PGMV>; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:53:16 -0500 Message-ID: <6165AE08DEE5D51181C100508B559F122BC14D@mailvitoalessio.insys-corp.com.mx> From: Agustin Ramos Fonseca To: "Swarm support (E-mail)" Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:51:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tigger.cbr.washington.edu id h6HHrISc028511 Subject: [Swarm-Support] Warnings while building swarm imply core dumps in apps Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Hello there. I 'succesfully' built swarm on a RH7.2 systems (after updating gcc to 3, and asociated packages). When building the libswarm i've got a lot of warning messages of the type /usr/bin/ld: warning: type and size of dynamic symbol `__objc_class_name_SCGgen' are not defined When building an application, I get warnings of the same kind. When running the executable I get a core dump. What could be wrong? Thanks for your help. Agustín T.Ramos Fonseca Software Engineer Insys S.A. de C.V. Phone: (55) 53225277 e-mail: aramos@insys-corp.com.mx From pauljohn@ku.edu Thu Jul 17 12:12:48 2003 Received: from lark.cc.ku.edu (root@lark.cc.ku.edu [129.237.34.2]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6HJClSc028875 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:12:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ku.edu by lark.cc.ku.edu (8.8.8/1.1.8.2/12Jan95-0207PM) id OAA0000000390; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:12:46 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3F16F5D1.3060800@ku.edu> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:15:29 -0500 From: Paul E Johnson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030618 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: support@swarm.org Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] Warnings while building swarm imply core dumps in apps References: <6165AE08DEE5D51181C100508B559F122BC14D@mailvitoalessio.insys-corp.com.mx> In-Reply-To: <6165AE08DEE5D51181C100508B559F122BC14D@mailvitoalessio.insys-corp.com.mx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Please consult: 2.4 Big Ugly GCC/Egcs warnings when compiling Swarm applications: http://www.ku.edu/~pauljohn/SwarmFaq/SwarmOnlineFaq.html#2.4 and 5.1 My program crashes. How can I get help? http://www.ku.edu/~pauljohn/SwarmFaq/SwarmOnlineFaq.html#5.1 Agustin Ramos Fonseca wrote: > Hello there. > > I 'succesfully' built swarm on a RH7.2 systems (after updating gcc to 3, > and asociated packages). When building the libswarm i've got a lot of > warning messages of the type > > /usr/bin/ld: warning: type and size of dynamic symbol > `__objc_class_name_SCGgen' are not defined > > When building an application, I get warnings of the same kind. > When running the executable I get a core dump. > > What could be wrong? > > Thanks for your help. > > Agustín T.Ramos Fonseca > Software Engineer > Insys S.A. de C.V. > Phone: (55) 53225277 > e-mail: aramos@insys-corp.com.mx > t -- Paul E. Johnson email: pauljohn@ku.edu Dept. of Political Science http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn 1541 Lilac Lane, Rm 504 University of Kansas Office: (785) 864-9086 Lawrence, Kansas 66044-3177 FAX: (785) 864-5700 From rlriolo@umich.edu Thu Jul 17 15:57:45 2003 Received: from cscs01.physics.lsa.umich.edu (cscs01.physics.lsa.umich.edu [141.211.97.54]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6HMvhSc000161 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 15:57:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cscs01.physics.lsa.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cscs01.physics.lsa.umich.edu (8.12.8/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h6HMvgUh001368 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 18:57:42 -0400 Received: from localhost (rlr@localhost) by cscs01.physics.lsa.umich.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h6HMvgxq001364 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 18:57:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: cscs01.physics.lsa.umich.edu: rlr owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 18:57:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Rick Riolo X-X-Sender: rlr@cscs01.physics.lsa.umich.edu To: support@swarm.org Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] 3-D Representation In-Reply-To: <3F16CC29.3000509@ku.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org X-Reply-To: Rick Riolo List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: This won't solve pauls' problems, but we have used a Graph3d, a very simple java based 3D surface plot generator real time from RePast/Java models, so i imagine you could use it from Swarm/Java, too. To see a screen shot: http://cscs.umich.edu/lab/graph3d.png (You can see text telling what can be done real time... rotate, zoom, etc, but you can't make the screen shot do that!) I have forgotten how fine-grained our plots are, but i think maybe 50x50 or maybe 100x100 points are plotted, and it goes pretty fast. probably calculating all the z=f(x,y) values is the bottleneck, not the plotting. We actually can drive several of these at once, plotting different things, and we can even change attributes in agents or sets of agents with sliders, and see the surface plot (which represents a preference landscape) change real-time, too. so again, its pretty quick, if you don't ask it to do too many points. - r -- Rick Riolo rlriolo@umich.edu Center for Study of Complex Systems (CSCS) 4477 Randall Lab University of Michigan Ann Arbor MI 48109-1120 Phone: 734 763 3323 Fax: 734 763 9267 http://cscs.umich.edu/~rlr On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, Paul Johnson wrote: > Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:17:45 -0500 > From: Paul Johnson > Reply-To: support@swarm.org > To: support@swarm.org > Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] 3-D Representation > > Great. How about you look at the ballet dancing project Tina Yu and I > did this last spring. > > http://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn/Swarm/MySwarmCode/Dancer/ > > There is a Swarm model with dancers and they follow certain aesthetic > rules that Tina created. I was using the 2d graph library to show the > dancers as ovals on a square. I outputted the information about their > positions and such to a data file, and Tina made a quick time movie of > the dance with a program called lifeform. That showed stick people > frolicking about. > > I think it would be cool if you could write a 3d thing to directly > attach to swarm to make the same representation. Maybe you could use the > dancer model since it is already a working prototype. > > A slightly abbreviated version of that paper was published in an art > journal called YLEM about a month ago. > > That dancer model has one feature that i think is really interesting > from a Swarm scheduling point of view. Each dancer chooses "steps" from > a repertoire. Some steps take one unit of time, others take more. So > this code features a sort of dynamic scheduling in which each dancer > chooses a step, and then only when that step is finished, will the > dancer choose another step. All of the dancers are operating on > individualized time sequences, i suppose I mean to say. > > Artem Baguinski wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 05:35:34PM -0500, Paul E Johnson wrote: > > > >>I was freaked out there for a minute. I thought you meant somebody > >>produced that 3d picture "graph.gif" with Swarm. The 3dlib you refer to > >> implements positional record keeping, but does not do any of the work > >>of drawing the image onto a beautiful picture. > >> > >>Has anybody used Swarm to make a 3d picture? > > > > > > i'm interested in using Swarm in real time 3D graphics software. > > > > being employed in a new media art lab, i'm interested in finding new > > ways of creation "interesting" graphics, audio, text :-) and now and > > then i spawn myself in a side projects when i have a hunch that > > they can deliver something new. > > > > so, I'm about to start such a new project, just need some time to get > > accuainted with swarm. The idea is to visualize swarm based models in > > fancy 3D. Since art is my domain I can sacrifice some accuracy of > > visualization in favor of fanciness, may be my approach isn't that > > useful for serious scientists. > > > > > >>It seems to me that drawing a 3d picture like that during a simulation > >>would make it really slow, wouldn't it? If you run a program to draw a > >>picture like that from a dataset, it is usually not speedy... > > > > > > that picture is way simple for modern (graphics) hardware. although it > > depends of course what for parameters are visualized. it is statistics > > calculations that may take a lot of CPU, but I'm guessing, if you design > > your model taking the stats your interested in into account, you can > > optimize statistics calculation and make real time visualization > > possible, wether in 3 or in 2 dimensions. > > > > the application may be build that way that stats computations are only > > made if stats-swarm is requested (if i got it right that's the way you > > deal with GUI in swarm). then one can run simulation without stats / > > visualization for some time, save results and restart with visualizer to > > see what happenned to the model while (s)he was not looking. [here i > > imagine a model that slowly changes in time, like ecosystem for > > example]. > > > > > >>Makes me wish there were a blt 3d component we could hook up. > >> > > > > > > GNU Maverik is a good GPLed virtual reality library. it's written in object > > oriented manner in C, i guess wraping it, or part of it, in Objective-C > > could provide swarm with nice framework for realtime 3D visualization. > > > > http://aig.cs.man.ac.uk/maverik/ > > > > > >>If this were my project, I would be inclined to say that the simulation > >>should be in Swarm, but you should output the positional data and make > >>the beautiful 3d picture with some other program that is intended for 3d > >>pictures. I have a really great commercial stat package called S+ that > >>can do that, and its free cousin R can do it, but not so easily. I saw > >>some great graphs of that sort in a SAS presentation lately. > > > > > > If stats you wanna see are really complicated, then this is definitelly > > the way too go. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Support mailing list > > Support@swarm.org > > http://www.swarm.org/mailman/listinfo/support > > > From alex@swarm.org Thu Jul 17 23:52:52 2003 Received: from allele2.biol.berkeley.edu (IDENT:0@allele2.Biol.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.109.24]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6I6qqSc002097 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 23:52:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allele2.biol.berkeley.edu (IDENT:1013@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by allele2.biol.berkeley.edu (8.12.9/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h6I6qq10002374 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 23:52:52 -0700 Received: (from alex@localhost) by allele2.biol.berkeley.edu (8.12.9/8.12.4/Submit) id h6I6qoFK002371; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 23:52:50 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: allele2.biol.berkeley.edu: alex set sender to alex@swarm.org using -f To: support@swarm.org Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] building swarm without emacs References: <3F13AC35@webster.usu.edu> <20030715104233.GA9808@caracolito> <3F13E99B.2050001@santafe.edu> <20030717080624.GA6808@caracolito> From: Alex Lancaster Organization: Swarm Development Group Date: 17 Jul 2003 23:52:50 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20030717080624.GA6808@caracolito> Message-ID: <7ubrvsz5q5.fsf@allele2.biol.berkeley.edu> Lines: 34 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: >>>>> "AB" == Artem Baguinski writes: AB> On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 05:46:35AM -0600, Marcus G. Daniels wrote: >> Artem Baguinski wrote: > > >you can see it still tries to call emacs >> > >> Emacs is required to build Swarm from source code. AB> and another software not mentioned neither in install book nor in AB> INSTALL: gperf. it is mentioned in macosx/README.MacOSX, but as i AB> use linux i didn't read that file. AB> and configure doesn't check for this program either. AB> src/defobj/Makefile.am just uses it like that assuming i have it. I have listed Emacs and gperf as requirements in the installbook, but it will only be included when the docs are regenerated for the next formal release (2.2). I will try and build docs for the snapshot releases if I get the time. I have also included the `--without-jdkdir' option in the CVS version of the `INSTALL' file, which will be included when the next source snapshot is created. Thanks for the bug report. (Don't forget about using our Savannah site for bug reporting, tracking and such in the future: http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/swarm/ ) Alex From mujavaswarm@yahoo.com Sun Jul 27 15:07:26 2003 Received: from web13106.mail.yahoo.com (web13106.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.151]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h6RM7QSc026143 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 15:07:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20030727220722.70906.qmail@web13106.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.216.230.96] by web13106.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 27 Jul 2003 15:07:22 PDT Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 15:07:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Suman Kanuganti To: support@swarm.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Swarm-Support] Swarm Vs Repast Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Ok; I was working on swarm last year, the project went fine and now my poeple wanted to extend it. My prof. was referring Repast to me besides Swarm. So does repast provides a better API than swarm or do I continue with swarm. Also can I club both the API, I dont think so I could do this. If I switch to repast, will that be easy for me to convert my swarm code to repast. I would love to stick with swarm as I am familiar with this. Any one use repast. Could you guys let me know your ideas with swarm and repast. Thanks, Suman K ===== Suman Kanuganti, Swarm Group, Anth Dept., University of Missouri, Columbia. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From ilazarevic@sezampro.yu Mon Jul 28 01:13:04 2003 Received: from ns1.sezampro.yu (ns1.sezampro.yu [194.106.188.2]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h6S8D2Sc028499 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 01:13:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ilazarevic@101-239.infosky.net [195.250.101.239] (authenticated as ilazarevic) by SezamPro with SMTP on Mon, 28 Jul 2003 10:12:51 +0200 From: "Ivan Lazarevic" To: Subject: RE: [Swarm-Support] Swarm Vs Repast Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 10:14:20 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20030727220722.70906.qmail@web13106.mail.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1082 Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Well, I can tell you I moved from Swarm to Repast for two reasons. Firstly, Repast works perfectly on Windows platforms, which can't really be said for Swarm, and secondly, the complete source code is written in Java. On the other hand, moving was easy, since Repast shares the same modelling paradigm. There are even Swarm samples like the heatbugs and mousetrap which were converted into Repast. I'd say the conversion is one-to-one, it really really looks very similar to Swarm. I had no trouble understanding it, after a day of reading the docs. Ivan Lazarevic -----Original Message----- From: support-admin@swarm.org [mailto:support-admin@swarm.org]On Behalf Of Suman Kanuganti Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 12:07 AM To: support@swarm.org Subject: [Swarm-Support] Swarm Vs Repast Ok; I was working on swarm last year, the project went fine and now my poeple wanted to extend it. My prof. was referring Repast to me besides Swarm. So does repast provides a better API than swarm or do I continue with swarm. Also can I club both the API, I dont think so I could do this. If I switch to repast, will that be easy for me to convert my swarm code to repast. I would love to stick with swarm as I am familiar with this. Any one use repast. Could you guys let me know your ideas with swarm and repast. Thanks, Suman K ===== Suman Kanuganti, Swarm Group, Anth Dept., University of Missouri, Columbia. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Support mailing list Support@swarm.org http://www.swarm.org/mailman/listinfo/support From mtc38@cs.columbia.edu Mon Jul 28 15:13:33 2003 Received: from cs.columbia.edu (cs.columbia.edu [128.59.16.20]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6SMDWZ0002184 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 15:13:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flame.cs.columbia.edu (flame.cs.columbia.edu [128.59.16.145]) by cs.columbia.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6SMDSl8004685 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 18:13:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from flame.cs.columbia.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by flame.cs.columbia.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6SMDSXZ000224 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 18:13:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (mtc38@localhost) by flame.cs.columbia.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) with ESMTP id h6SMDFtl000221 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 18:13:28 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: flame.cs.columbia.edu: mtc38 owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 18:13:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "Min San T. Co" To: Subject: RE: [Swarm-Support] Swarm Vs Repast In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Where can I find the code for Swarm samples heatbugs and mousetrap which were converted to RePast? Thanks for your help! min On Mon, 28 Jul 2003, Ivan Lazarevic wrote: > Well, I can tell you I moved from Swarm to Repast for two reasons. Firstly, > Repast works perfectly on Windows platforms, which can't really be said for > Swarm, and secondly, the complete source code is written in Java. > > On the other hand, moving was easy, since Repast shares the same modelling > paradigm. There are even Swarm samples like the heatbugs and mousetrap which > were converted into Repast. I'd say the conversion is one-to-one, it really > really looks very similar to Swarm. I had no trouble understanding it, after > a day of reading the docs. > > Ivan Lazarevic > > -----Original Message----- > From: support-admin@swarm.org [mailto:support-admin@swarm.org]On Behalf > Of Suman Kanuganti > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 12:07 AM > To: support@swarm.org > Subject: [Swarm-Support] Swarm Vs Repast > > > Ok; I was working on swarm last year, the project went > fine and now my poeple wanted to extend it. My prof. > was referring Repast to me besides Swarm. > So does repast provides a better API than swarm or do > I continue with swarm. Also can I club both the API, I > dont think so I could do this. > If I switch to repast, will that be easy for me to > convert my swarm code to repast. > I would love to stick with swarm as I am familiar with > this. Any one use repast. > Could you guys let me know your ideas with swarm and > repast. > > Thanks, > Suman K > > ===== > Suman Kanuganti, > Swarm Group, Anth Dept., > University of Missouri, Columbia. > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Support mailing list > Support@swarm.org > http://www.swarm.org/mailman/listinfo/support > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support mailing list > Support@swarm.org > http://www.swarm.org/mailman/listinfo/support > From petersja@gmx.at Mon Jul 28 23:43:33 2003 Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h6T6hVZ0004168 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2003 23:43:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 2984 invoked by uid 65534); 29 Jul 2003 06:43:25 -0000 Received: from arcss01.arcs.ac.at (EHLO tecra8000) (62.218.164.126) by mail.gmx.net (mp012) with SMTP; 29 Jul 2003 08:43:25 +0200 Message-ID: <000701c3559c$2921b580$07dc18ac@arcs.ac.at> From: "Jan Peters" To: References: Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] Swarm Vs Repast Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 08:39:28 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Min, the code you are looking for resides in the [drive:]\repast-2.0\src\uchicago\src\sim\heatBugs and [drive:]\repast-2.0\src\uchicago\src\sim\mousetrap directories of the latest repast distribution. Greetings Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Min San T. Co" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:13 AM Subject: RE: [Swarm-Support] Swarm Vs Repast > Where can I find the code for Swarm samples heatbugs and mousetrap which > were converted to RePast? > > Thanks for your help! > > min > > On Mon, 28 Jul 2003, Ivan Lazarevic wrote: > > > Well, I can tell you I moved from Swarm to Repast for two reasons. Firstly, > > Repast works perfectly on Windows platforms, which can't really be said for > > Swarm, and secondly, the complete source code is written in Java. > > > > On the other hand, moving was easy, since Repast shares the same modelling > > paradigm. There are even Swarm samples like the heatbugs and mousetrap which > > were converted into Repast. I'd say the conversion is one-to-one, it really > > really looks very similar to Swarm. I had no trouble understanding it, after > > a day of reading the docs. > > > > Ivan Lazarevic > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: support-admin@swarm.org [mailto:support-admin@swarm.org]On Behalf > > Of Suman Kanuganti > > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 12:07 AM > > To: support@swarm.org > > Subject: [Swarm-Support] Swarm Vs Repast > > > > > > Ok; I was working on swarm last year, the project went > > fine and now my poeple wanted to extend it. My prof. > > was referring Repast to me besides Swarm. > > So does repast provides a better API than swarm or do > > I continue with swarm. Also can I club both the API, I > > dont think so I could do this. > > If I switch to repast, will that be easy for me to > > convert my swarm code to repast. > > I would love to stick with swarm as I am familiar with > > this. Any one use repast. > > Could you guys let me know your ideas with swarm and > > repast. > > > > Thanks, > > Suman K > > > > ===== > > Suman Kanuganti, > > Swarm Group, Anth Dept., > > University of Missouri, Columbia. > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Support mailing list > > Support@swarm.org > > http://www.swarm.org/mailman/listinfo/support > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Support mailing list > > Support@swarm.org > > http://www.swarm.org/mailman/listinfo/support > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support mailing list > Support@swarm.org > http://www.swarm.org/mailman/listinfo/support > From herrmann_jan@gmx.de Thu Jul 31 07:15:02 2003 Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h6VEF0Z0018053 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 07:15:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 21093 invoked by uid 65534); 31 Jul 2003 14:14:55 -0000 Received: from ssg-lap-101.ssg.geo.uni-muenchen.de (HELO ssglap101) (141.84.116.101) by mail.gmx.net (mp010) with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 16:14:54 +0200 Message-ID: <001201c3576e$c1a59820$6574548d@geo.wiso.tumuenchen.de> From: "Jan Herrmann" To: Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 16:19:27 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01C3577F.83793E10" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: [Swarm-Support] using sun's java libs in swarm Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C3577F.83793E10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello everybody, =20 I wrote a couple of java programs and a swarm simulation. Now I'd like = to use the java programs in my swarm simulation. Unfortunately the Java = libs which I can use in Swarm seem to be only a subset of sun's Java = libs. For example in swarm you can't use = Class.forName("sun.jdbc.odbc.JdbcOdbcDriver"),=20 cause this class (sun.jdbc.odbc.JdbcOdbcDriver) will not be found.(Which = java libs does Swarm use?? And how to tell Swarm to use different ones?) To solve these problems I had the idea to import all the swarm classes = in my Java programs and to compile it with javac. This worked fine but = when I try to execute the Simulation with java (sun's java) I get the = following error: =20 Exception caught: no javaswarm in java.library.path Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: initSwarm at swarm.SwarmEnvironment.initSwarm(Native Method) at myswarm.StartSimulation.main(StartSimulation.java:21) =20 I guess swarm simulations can only be run under javaswarm (true??) Does anyone have an idea how to use the full power of sun's java libs = under swarm? By the way I'm working under windows 2000 and I'm using java1.4.2 =20 Thanks for your support greets Jan ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C3577F.83793E10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello=20 everybody,

 

I=20 wrote  a couple of java programs and a swarm simulation. Now I'd = like to=20 use the java programs in my swarm simulation. Unfortunately the Java = libs which=20 I can use in Swarm seem to be only a subset of sun's Java libs. For = example in=20 swarm you can=92t use Class.forName("sun.jdbc.odbc.JdbcOdbcDriver"), =

cause this=20 class (sun.jdbc.odbc.JdbcOdbcDriver) will not be found.(Which java libs = does=20 Swarm use?? And how to tell Swarm to use different = ones?)

To solve=20 these problems I had the idea to import all the swarm classes in my Java = programs and to compile it with javac. This worked fine but when I try = to=20 execute the Simulation with java (sun=92s java) I get the following=20 error:

 

Exception=20 caught: no javaswarm in java.library.path

Exception=20 in thread "main" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: = initSwarm

        = at=20 swarm.SwarmEnvironment.initSwarm(Native Method)

        = at=20 myswarm.StartSimulation.main(StartSimulation.java:21)

 

I guess=20 swarm simulations can only be run under javaswarm = (true??)

Does=20 anyone have an idea how to use the full power of sun=92s java libs under = swarm?

By the way=20 I=92m working under windows 2000 and I=92m using = java1.4.2

 

Thanks for your support
greets=20 Jan

------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C3577F.83793E10-- From mgd@santafe.edu Thu Jul 31 07:33:14 2003 Received: from pele.santafe.edu (pele.santafe.edu [192.12.12.119]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6VEXDZ0018206 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 07:33:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from santafe.edu (condor [192.12.12.110]) by pele.santafe.edu (8.11.7+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6VEXDJ01537 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 08:33:13 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <3F2928A8.5040205@santafe.edu> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 08:33:12 -0600 From: "Marcus G. Daniels" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:1.5a) Gecko/20030709 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: support@swarm.org Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] using sun's java libs in swarm References: <001201c3576e$c1a59820$6574548d@geo.wiso.tumuenchen.de> In-Reply-To: <001201c3576e$c1a59820$6574548d@geo.wiso.tumuenchen.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Jan Herrmann wrote: > Unfortunately the Java libs which I can use in Swarm seem to be only a > subset of sun's Java libs. Try using the `jdkswarm' and `jdkcswarm' scripts instead. The `javaswarm' and `javacswarm' scripts use the Kaffe JVM. There's nothing technical about Swarm that favors Kaffe, but Kaffe has licensing more compatible with Swarm (e.g. for redistribution on CD-ROM), and also has full source code. The other problem you mentioned is just because you need to have X:\Swarm-2.2\bin in your path (or whatever path is appropriate for your Swarm install). Also, there are problems with Cygwin loading into Java on Windows with the current snapshots. If you want a snapshot/pretest version of Swarm, your better off not using Windows. From herrmann_jan@gmx.de Thu Jul 31 09:10:49 2003 Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h6VGAmZ0018632 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 09:10:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 30845 invoked by uid 65534); 31 Jul 2003 16:10:42 -0000 Received: from ssg-lap-101.ssg.geo.uni-muenchen.de (HELO ssglap101) (141.84.116.101) by mail.gmx.net (mp014) with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 18:10:42 +0200 Message-ID: <001001c3577e$eeeea960$6574548d@geo.wiso.tumuenchen.de> From: "Jan Herrmann" To: References: <001201c3576e$c1a59820$6574548d@geo.wiso.tumuenchen.de> <3F2928A8.5040205@santafe.edu> Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] using sun's java libs in swarm Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 18:15:17 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Hello, Thanks Marcus for your help. As the Kaffe libs don't support Database connections I decided to use JDK. I'm now using jdkcswarm and jdkswarm. I had to change the JDKPATH in the sh.scripts so it can find my JDK-Home. The compilation terminates. I can also start the simulation. But when I press the start-button in the ProcCtrl Window I get a java.exe - Application error. Windows tells me that there is a problem with referencing the memory (memory could not be read). In the terminal I get the following message: /src/Swarm/swarm/src/defobj/directory.m:507 swarm_directory_objc_remove 0 [sig] java 1028 stackdump: Dumping stack trace to java.exe.stackdump Any idea what went wrong? I'm using swarm2.1.1. Are there any new snapshot/pretest versions of Swarm for windows or should I better run swarm under Linux? thanks for your support greets Jan Jan Herrmann wrote: > Unfortunately the Java libs which I can use in Swarm seem to be only a > subset of sun's Java libs. Marcus G. Daniels wrote: >Try using the `jdkswarm' and `jdkcswarm' scripts instead. The >`javaswarm' and `javacswarm' scripts use the Kaffe JVM. There's >nothing technical about Swarm that favors Kaffe, but Kaffe has licensing >more compatible with Swarm (e.g. for redistribution on CD-ROM), and also >has full source code. The other problem you mentioned is just because >you need to have >X:\Swarm-2.2\bin in your path (or whatever path is appropriate for your >Swarm install). >Also, there are problems with Cygwin loading into Java on Windows with >the current snapshots. If you want a snapshot/pretest version of Swarm, >your better off not using Windows. From mgd@santafe.edu Thu Jul 31 09:20:44 2003 Received: from pele.santafe.edu (pele.santafe.edu [192.12.12.119]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6VGKhZ0018709 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 09:20:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from santafe.edu (condor [192.12.12.110]) by pele.santafe.edu (8.11.7+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6VGKgJ15125 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 10:20:42 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <3F2941D9.8010101@santafe.edu> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 10:20:41 -0600 From: "Marcus G. Daniels" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:1.5a) Gecko/20030709 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: support@swarm.org Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] using sun's java libs in swarm References: <001201c3576e$c1a59820$6574548d@geo.wiso.tumuenchen.de> <3F2928A8.5040205@santafe.edu> <001001c3577e$eeeea960$6574548d@geo.wiso.tumuenchen.de> In-Reply-To: <001001c3577e$eeeea960$6574548d@geo.wiso.tumuenchen.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Jan Herrmann wrote: >But when I press the start-button in the ProcCtrl >Window I get a java.exe - Application error. Windows tells me that there is >a problem with referencing the memory (memory could not be read). In the >terminal I get the following message: > >/src/Swarm/swarm/src/defobj/directory.m:507 swarm_directory_objc_remove > 0 [sig] java 1028 stackdump: Dumping stack trace to java.exe.stackdump > > Does jheatbugs work? It could be a problem with your model where objects are being returned and accumulating in the directory that related Java and Objective C objects. Or, perhaps you are trying to drop some object that has already been dropped. There's currently a bug in Cygwin that makes it impossible to load Cygwin in Java, and thus Swarm in Java. If someone wanted to write a test case for a non-Swarm, minimal, DLL load in Java that displayed the problem, the Cygwin folks would probably fix it. The old Windows binaries (including 2.1.1) can be considered unsupported. If you need something working now, I'd use Linux or Solaris. From herrmann_jan@gmx.de Thu Jul 31 10:04:51 2003 Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h6VH4mZ0018928 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 10:04:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 11265 invoked by uid 65534); 31 Jul 2003 17:04:43 -0000 Received: from ssg-lap-101.ssg.geo.uni-muenchen.de (HELO ssglap101) (141.84.116.101) by mail.gmx.net (mp027) with SMTP; 31 Jul 2003 19:04:43 +0200 Message-ID: <000d01c35786$7a610a40$6574548d@geo.wiso.tumuenchen.de> From: "Jan Herrmann" To: References: <001201c3576e$c1a59820$6574548d@geo.wiso.tumuenchen.de> <3F2928A8.5040205@santafe.edu> <001001c3577e$eeeea960$6574548d@geo.wiso.tumuenchen.de> <3F2941D9.8010101@santafe.edu> Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] using sun's java libs in swarm Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 19:09:18 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Hi everybody, Tried to run jheatbugs but I get exectly the same result. So I suppose it has something to do with the mentioned problem in Cygwin. Does anybody know if Swarm (with Java) is running properly under Linux? . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcus G. Daniels" To: Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 6:20 PM Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] using sun's java libs in swarm > Jan Herrmann wrote: > > >But when I press the start-button in the ProcCtrl > >Window I get a java.exe - Application error. Windows tells me that there is > >a problem with referencing the memory (memory could not be read). In the > >terminal I get the following message: > > > >/src/Swarm/swarm/src/defobj/directory.m:507 swarm_directory_objc_remove > > 0 [sig] java 1028 stackdump: Dumping stack trace to java.exe.stackdump > > > > > Does jheatbugs work? It could be a problem with your model where > objects are being returned and accumulating in the directory that > related Java and Objective C objects. Or, perhaps you are trying to > drop some object that has already been dropped. > > There's currently a bug in Cygwin that makes it impossible to load > Cygwin in Java, and thus Swarm in Java. If someone wanted to write a > test case for a non-Swarm, minimal, DLL load in Java that displayed the > problem, the Cygwin folks would probably fix it. The old Windows > binaries (including 2.1.1) can be considered unsupported. If you need > something working now, I'd use Linux or Solaris. > > _______________________________________________ > Support mailing list > Support@swarm.org > http://www.swarm.org/mailman/listinfo/support > From mgd@santafe.edu Thu Jul 31 10:12:34 2003 Received: from pele.santafe.edu (pele.santafe.edu [192.12.12.119]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6VHCXZ0019020 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 10:12:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from santafe.edu (condor [192.12.12.110]) by pele.santafe.edu (8.11.7+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6VHCWJ27370 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:12:32 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <3F294E00.4080407@santafe.edu> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:12:32 -0600 From: "Marcus G. Daniels" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:1.5a) Gecko/20030709 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: support@swarm.org Subject: Re: [Swarm-Support] using sun's java libs in swarm References: <001201c3576e$c1a59820$6574548d@geo.wiso.tumuenchen.de> <3F2928A8.5040205@santafe.edu> <001001c3577e$eeeea960$6574548d@geo.wiso.tumuenchen.de> <3F2941D9.8010101@santafe.edu> <000d01c35786$7a610a40$6574548d@geo.wiso.tumuenchen.de> In-Reply-To: <000d01c35786$7a610a40$6574548d@geo.wiso.tumuenchen.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Jan Herrmann wrote: >Tried to run jheatbugs but I get exectly the same result. So I suppose it >has something to do with the mentioned problem in Cygwin. > I expect you don't have a new (i.e. subject to the loading problems I mentioend) version of Cygwin if you are using Swarm 2.1.1. There were some fixes to Swarm along the way with JDK 1.4. (Fixes applying to all platforms for Swarm.) >Does anybody know if Swarm (with Java) is running properly under Linux? > Yes, but use a current source snapshot (e.g. Paul's), or pull the code from CVS and build that. From www-data@subversions.gnu.org Wed Jul 9 19:34:32 2003 Received: from subversions.gnu.org (subversions.gnu.org [199.232.41.2]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6A2YW0B009283 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 19:34:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www-data by subversions.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.20) id 19aRFQ-0005u5-KX; Wed, 09 Jul 2003 22:33:28 -0400 To: eiji@atr.co.jp, support@swarm.org From: nobody@nongnu.org X-Savannah-Server: savannah.nongnu.org:443 [199.232.41.4] X-Savannah-Project: swarm X-Savannah-Artifact: bug X-Savannah-Artifact-ID: 4261 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; ja-JP; rv:1.1) Gecko/20021002 for VineLinux 0vl5 X-Apparently-From: 133.186.88.14 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 22:33:28 -0400 Subject: [Swarm-Support] [bug #4261] Core dump with R-1.7.1 and add-on package hdf5-1.4.7 Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: =================== BUG #4261: FULL BUG SNAPSHOT =================== http://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?func=detailbug&bug_id=4261&group_id=1837 Submitted by: eiji Project: Swarm Submitted on: Thu 07/10/2003 at 02:33 Category: None Severity: 5 - Major Bug Group: None Resolution: None Assigned to: None Status: Open Summary: Core dump with R-1.7.1 and add-on package hdf5-1.4.7 Original Submission: I tried to load a HDF5 file generated by Swarm-2.1.1 (snapshot 2.1.145.20030623) in R version 1.7.1 using the function hdf5load of the package hdf5-1.4.7. It 'core dumps' with the following error message: R.bin: H5T.c:5729: H5T_set_size: Assertion `"not implemented yet" && 0' failed. I have the current latest snapshopt of HDF5 (HDF5-1.4.5-post2) in my linux machine. I'm using gcc-3.0.1. I have attempted to load the same HDF5 test-file in an old machine which has R-1.2.2 and it could load the file without problems (I'll try to upload the test file in savannah as a reference). For those having the same problem and looking for an alternative while this bug is not solved, there is an alternative package to process HDF5 files in R -> http://www.bioconductor.org/repository/release1.1/package/html/rhdf5.html I could use making some adaptations in my R scripts. No Followups Have Been Posted CC list is empty File Attachments **************** ------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu 07/10/2003 at 02:33 Name: ts3n0.hdf Size: 234KB By: eiji A HDF5 test file http://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/download.php?group_id=1837&bug_id=4261&bug_file_id=522 For detailed info, follow this link: http://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?func=detailbug&bug_id=4261&group_id=1837 _______________________________________________ Message sent via/by Savannah http://savannah.nongnu.org/ From www-data@subversions.gnu.org Fri Jul 18 00:01:00 2003 Received: from subversions.gnu.org (subversions.gnu.org [199.232.41.2]) by tigger.cbr.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6I70xSc002149 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 00:00:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www-data by subversions.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.20) id 19dPDg-0005Da-FO; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 02:59:56 -0400 To: eiji@atr.co.jp, alexl@gnu.org, support@swarm.org From: nobody@nongnu.org X-Savannah-Server: savannah.nongnu.org:80 [199.232.41.4] X-Savannah-Project: swarm X-Savannah-Artifact: bug X-Savannah-Artifact-ID: 4261 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686) Gecko/20030314 Galeon/1.3.4 X-Apparently-From: 66.127.243.160 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 02:59:56 -0400 Subject: [Swarm-Support] [bug #4261] Core dump with R-1.7.1 and add-on package hdf5-1.4.7 Sender: support-admin@swarm.org Errors-To: support-admin@swarm.org X-BeenThere: support@swarm.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: support@swarm.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Swarm Support List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: =================== BUG #4261: LATEST MODIFICATIONS ================== http://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?func=detailbug&bug_id=4261&group_id=1837 Changes by: Alex Lancaster Date: Thu 07/17/2003 at 23:59 (US/Pacific) What | Removed | Added --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Category | None | Swarm Severity | 5 - Major | 4 ------------------ Additional Follow-up Comments ---------------------------- This is a check to see if the posting of followups to e-mail address is working properly. =================== BUG #4261: FULL BUG SNAPSHOT =================== Submitted by: eiji Project: Swarm Submitted on: Wed 07/09/2003 at 19:33 Category: Swarm Severity: 4 Bug Group: None Resolution: None Assigned to: None Status: Open Summary: Core dump with R-1.7.1 and add-on package hdf5-1.4.7 Original Submission: I tried to load a HDF5 file generated by Swarm-2.1.1 (snapshot 2.1.145.20030623) in R version 1.7.1 using the function hdf5load of the package hdf5-1.4.7. It 'core dumps' with the following error message: R.bin: H5T.c:5729: H5T_set_size: Assertion `"not implemented yet" && 0' failed. I have the current latest snapshopt of HDF5 (HDF5-1.4.5-post2) in my linux machine. I'm using gcc-3.0.1. I have attempted to load the same HDF5 test-file in an old machine which has R-1.2.2 and it could load the file without problems (I'll try to upload the test file in savannah as a reference). For those having the same problem and looking for an alternative while this bug is not solved, there is an alternative package to process HDF5 files in R -> http://www.bioconductor.org/repository/release1.1/package/html/rhdf5.html I could use making some adaptations in my R scripts. Follow-up Comments ******************* ------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu 07/17/2003 at 23:59 By: alexl This is a check to see if the posting of followups to e-mail address is working properly. CC list is empty File Attachments **************** ------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed 07/09/2003 at 19:33 Name: ts3n0.hdf Size: 234KB By: eiji A HDF5 test file http://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/download.php?group_id=1837&bug_id=4261&bug_file_id=522 For detailed info, follow this link: http://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?func=detailbug&bug_id=4261&group_id=1837 _______________________________________________ Message sent via/by Savannah http://savannah.nongnu.org/