From stephane.fillod@worldonline.fr Fri Feb 01 04:45:29 2002 Received: from postfix2-2.free.fr ([213.228.0.140]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16WaG9-0002MR-00 for ; Fri, 01 Feb 2002 04:45:29 -0500 Received: from charybde.localdomain (rennes-1-a7-99-38.dial.proxad.net [62.147.99.38]) by postfix2-2.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96A195F7C3 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 10:45:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from fillods by charybde.localdomain with local (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16WaFE-0001R0-00 for ; Fri, 01 Feb 2002 10:44:32 +0100 Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 10:44:31 +0100 From: Stephane Fillod To: Xlog mailing list Subject: Re: [Xlog-discussion] first 0.6 beta release Message-ID: <20020201094431.GE5223@charybde> Mail-Followup-To: Stephane Fillod , Xlog mailing list References: <20020131213237.134593b5.pa3aba@debian.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020131213237.134593b5.pa3aba@debian.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i Sender: xlog-discussion-admin@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org Errors-To: xlog-discussion-admin@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org X-BeenThere: xlog-discussion@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Thu, Jan 31, 2002, Joop Stakenborg wrote: > I would like to release a series of beta's, prior to version 0.6, > so people on this list can comment on new additions. > Here is the changelog (check it out Stephane!): > > * Migrate to automake 1.5 and gettext 0.10.40. > * Minor bugfixes. Saving of window size and position now works correctly. > * Add hamlib support. You must call the configure script with > '--enable-hamlib', to compile with hamlib. A page has been added to the > preferences dialog, where hamlib can be activated and a radio and port > can be selected. The frequency of your rig can be displayed in the > statusbar. Great! I got to check it out right now! Note: I haven't looked at yet, but could the frequency field in the QSO window be filled by the frequency from the rig? Or maybe when the "Frequency" button is clicked? However, I've been working too much on Hamlib lately, and haven't made much progress for xlog. I hope I'll be able to code the flexible logfile format over the beta1 this week-end, and send you a patch. Also, there's a hamlib.m4 file in preparation, to be used by xlog for example. This will make it easier to build xlog when hamlib is not installed in a standard place. > * Add a clock. It can be run in the statusbar. > * Both clock and frequency display have a handlebox, so you can put them > anywhere on the screen. > > Read the INSTALL file to find out how to enable hamlib support, it is not > compiled by default. Check out http://hamlib.sourceforge.net to see if your > radio is supported and if you are in doubt, use the latest CVS version. Cheers, Stephane F8CFE From pa3aba@debian.org Fri Feb 01 05:22:46 2002 Received: from huygens.rijnh.nl ([192.42.124.30]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16WaqD-0003qJ-00 for ; Fri, 01 Feb 2002 05:22:46 -0500 Received: from pcecrh4 (joosta@pcecrh4.rijnh.nl [192.42.126.127]) by huygens.rijnh.nl (SGI-8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA87197; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 11:23:50 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 11:25:17 +0100 From: Joop Stakenborg To: Stephane Fillod Cc: xlog-discussion@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org Subject: Re: [Xlog-discussion] first 0.6 beta release Message-Id: <20020201112517.3da9f133.pa3aba@debian.org> In-Reply-To: <20020201094431.GE5223@charybde> References: <20020131213237.134593b5.pa3aba@debian.org> <20020201094431.GE5223@charybde> Organization: Debian GNU/Linux X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-debian-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xlog-discussion-admin@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org Errors-To: xlog-discussion-admin@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org X-BeenThere: xlog-discussion@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 10:44:31 +0100 Stephane Fillod wrote: > > Here is the changelog (check it out Stephane!): > > > > * Migrate to automake 1.5 and gettext 0.10.40. > > * Minor bugfixes. Saving of window size and position now works correctly. > > * Add hamlib support. You must call the configure script with > > '--enable-hamlib', to compile with hamlib. A page has been added to the > > preferences dialog, where hamlib can be activated and a radio and port > > can be selected. The frequency of your rig can be displayed in the > > statusbar. > > Great! I got to check it out right now! > Note: I haven't looked at yet, but could the frequency field in the > QSO window be filled by the frequency from the rig? Or maybe when the > "Frequency" button is clicked? > Hi Stephane! I first had the frequency displayed in the MHz box, but this will prevent you from adding non-live QSO's, because the field is constantly updated. Then I tried to add a stop/start hamlib function (stop hamlib when the MHz field is edited and start it again when a QSO has been added or updated), but this turned out to be an ugly hack. So now it's a MHz-button which you can click and a constantly updated box in the statusbar. > However, I've been working too much on Hamlib lately, and haven't made > much progress for xlog. I hope I'll be able to code the flexible logfile > format over the beta1 this week-end, and send you a patch. > Don't worry if you can't find the time. I have enough work for xlog for the coming week(s) and I like the way hamlib is progressing. > Also, there's a hamlib.m4 file in preparation, to be used by xlog for > example. This will make it easier to build xlog when hamlib is not > installed in a standard place. > Great! > > Cheers, > Stephane F8CFE > Joop PA4TU From tpm@prkele.tky.hut.fi Fri Feb 01 05:56:54 2002 Received: from prkele.tky.hut.fi ([130.233.19.186]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16WbNF-0006r4-00 for ; Fri, 01 Feb 2002 05:56:54 -0500 Received: from localhost (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by prkele.tky.hut.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA03308 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 12:56:51 +0200 Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 12:56:50 +0200 (EET) From: Tomi Manninen OH2BNS X-Sender: tomannin@saturn.trs.ntc.nokia.com Reply-To: tpm@prkele.tky.hut.fi To: xlog-discussion@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org Subject: Re: [Xlog-discussion] first 0.6 beta release In-Reply-To: <20020201112517.3da9f133.pa3aba@debian.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: xlog-discussion-admin@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org Errors-To: xlog-discussion-admin@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org X-BeenThere: xlog-discussion@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Joop Stakenborg wrote: > I first had the frequency displayed in the MHz box, but this will > prevent you from adding non-live QSO's, because the field is constantly > updated. Then I tried to add a stop/start hamlib function (stop hamlib > when the MHz field is edited and start it again when a QSO has been added > or updated), but this turned out to be an ugly hack. Just a programming trick I learnt about the other day. You can check if the entry-box has focus and prevent updating it based on that. > So now it's a MHz-button which you can click and a constantly updated > box in the statusbar. It's probably best like this. -- Tomi Manninen Internet: oh2bns@sral.fi OH2BNS AX.25: oh2bns@oh2rbi.fin.eu KP20ME04 Amprnet: oh2bns@oh2rbi.ampr.org From stephane.fillod@worldonline.fr Fri Feb 01 13:17:47 2002 Received: from postfix2-2.free.fr ([213.228.0.140]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16WiFv-0002Gg-00 for ; Fri, 01 Feb 2002 13:17:47 -0500 Received: from charybde.localdomain (rennes-1-a7-99-6.dial.proxad.net [62.147.99.6]) by postfix2-2.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4B4D5FB49 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 19:17:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from fillods by charybde.localdomain with local (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16WiEy-0008Vd-00 for ; Fri, 01 Feb 2002 19:16:48 +0100 Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 19:16:47 +0100 From: Stephane Fillod To: Xlog mailing list Subject: Re: [Xlog-discussion] first 0.6 beta release Message-ID: <20020201181647.GA32606@charybde> Mail-Followup-To: Stephane Fillod , Xlog mailing list References: <20020131213237.134593b5.pa3aba@debian.org> <20020201094431.GE5223@charybde> <20020201112517.3da9f133.pa3aba@debian.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020201112517.3da9f133.pa3aba@debian.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i Sender: xlog-discussion-admin@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org Errors-To: xlog-discussion-admin@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org X-BeenThere: xlog-discussion@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Fri, Feb 01, 2002, Joop Stakenborg wrote: > So now it's a MHz-button which you can click and a constantly updated > box in the statusbar. BTW, that's how the Date/Time fields work :-) I've compiled the beta1, and I love the docking windows in the status bar. That's cute! An idea: would it be possible also to have the Mode and Tx RST filled in by Hamlib when the associated button is clicked? For people having a "Power" field (required in France), the RFPOWER retrieval would be nice too. > > Also, there's a hamlib.m4 file in preparation, to be used by xlog for > > example. This will make it easier to build xlog when hamlib is not > > installed in a standard place. > > > > Great! I've started, somewhat works, but I'm wondering if using libtool would be better (using .la). A patch should follow soon. Cheers, Stephane F8CFE From bryn@pcpractice.com Sun Feb 03 11:41:48 2002 Received: from mail07a.vwh1.net ([209.238.9.57]) by fencepost.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16XPi8-0006ht-00 for ; Sun, 03 Feb 2002 11:41:48 -0500 Received: from www.pcpractice.com (208.55.21.137) by mail07a.vwh1.net (RS ver 1.0.60s) with SMTP id 027957966 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2002 11:40:37 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Bryn Joynes Reply-To: bryn@pcpractice.com To: xlog-discussion@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 10:42:30 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0202031042300C.30430@N4VM.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Loop-Detect: 1 Subject: [Xlog-discussion] Suggestions on XLog Sender: xlog-discussion-admin@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org Errors-To: xlog-discussion-admin@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org X-BeenThere: xlog-discussion@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, Have been looking at writing a logging program for linux for sometime, but it looks like I might not have to write one now. You have a great base to improve on with XLog. So if I maybe as so bold to suggest the following. Please excuse me if these have already been suggested. 1. Multiple logs 2. Dupe checking within a log 3. Search ability with parameters. These additions would make a great basic logging and contest logging program. Best Regards Bryn N4VM FP#200 "oo" From stephane.fillod@worldonline.fr Sun Feb 03 15:46:08 2002 Received: from postfix2-1.free.fr ([213.228.0.9]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16XTWa-0005Wh-00 for ; Sun, 03 Feb 2002 15:46:08 -0500 Received: from charybde.localdomain (rennes-1-a7-96-78.dial.proxad.net [62.147.96.78]) by postfix2-1.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FCE01E4 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2002 21:46:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from fillods by charybde.localdomain with local (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16XQgw-0002e0-00 for ; Sun, 03 Feb 2002 18:44:38 +0100 Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 18:44:37 +0100 From: Stephane Fillod To: Xlog mailing list Subject: Re: [Xlog-discussion] first 0.6 beta release Message-ID: <20020203174437.GA10077@charybde> Mail-Followup-To: Stephane Fillod , Xlog mailing list References: <20020131213237.134593b5.pa3aba@debian.org> <20020201094431.GE5223@charybde> <20020201112517.3da9f133.pa3aba@debian.org> <20020201181647.GA32606@charybde> <20020203003444.19bdf5f4.pa3aba@debian.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020203003444.19bdf5f4.pa3aba@debian.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i Sender: xlog-discussion-admin@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org Errors-To: xlog-discussion-admin@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org X-BeenThere: xlog-discussion@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sun, Feb 03, 2002, Joop Stakenborg wrote: > > An idea: would it be possible also to have the Mode and Tx RST filled in > > by Hamlib when the associated button is clicked? > > I have been thinking about modes, but what about soundcard based software > (MT63, rtty with linpsk, gmfsk and twpsk). I have my rig tuned to SSB mode, > but I am not actually working in SSB. Not a problem, this is up to the operator. Fortunately, the computer is not to replace him or she anytime soon. hi!. I agree with you, xlog won't be able to guess when you're operating a soundcard based mode, and it's acceptable. However, when you know you are operating USB phone, then clicking on the "Mode" button may help. The same goes for other modes, it's only when the operator decides it. > > For people having a "Power" field (required in France), the RFPOWER > > retrieval would be nice too. > > That's a nice idea. We could calculate the avarage power during the QSO > and log that. I will leave it for later, when we have the flexible file > format, so we can add a power column. Will put it in the todo list. No need for average. The same applies to RFPOWER and signal strenght. It's done when the operator decides it. However, calculating averages can make interresting statistical data. Talking about flexible file format, I'm almost done. I have a patched beta version that's able to load 0.4 and 0.5 old file format, and saving to 0.5 format. It is also able to open multiple logs at the same time. flexible format is on its way. Coming up next are twlog and ADIF format, and why not Cabrillo. > > I've started, somewhat works, but I'm wondering if using libtool would be > > better (using .la). A patch should follow soon. > > Too bad I can't help out. I am not familiar with libtool. There's nothing much to know about libtool in our case. Just to add a macro or two in configure.in, and the we would be able to use LIBADD in Makefile.am and specify the .la file instead of messing with LIBS. Perhaps, let's stick to the LIBS since it works fine so far. Cheers, Stephane F8CFE From stephane.fillod@worldonline.fr Sun Feb 03 19:06:49 2002 Received: from postfix3-2.free.fr ([213.228.0.169]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16XWem-0000ZV-00 for ; Sun, 03 Feb 2002 19:06:49 -0500 Received: from charybde.localdomain (rennes-1-a7-98-140.dial.proxad.net [62.147.98.140]) by postfix3-2.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E483617F6F for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 01:06:43 +0100 (MET) Received: from fillods by charybde.localdomain with local (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16XWd8-0003fC-00 for ; Mon, 04 Feb 2002 01:05:06 +0100 Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 01:05:06 +0100 From: Stephane Fillod To: Xlog mailing list Message-ID: <20020204000506.GA13839@charybde> Mail-Followup-To: Stephane Fillod , Xlog mailing list References: <20020131213237.134593b5.pa3aba@debian.org> <20020201094431.GE5223@charybde> <20020201112517.3da9f133.pa3aba@debian.org> <20020201181647.GA32606@charybde> <20020203003444.19bdf5f4.pa3aba@debian.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0F1p//8PRICkK4MW" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020203003444.19bdf5f4.pa3aba@debian.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i Subject: [Xlog-discussion] flexible format Sender: xlog-discussion-admin@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org Errors-To: xlog-discussion-admin@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org X-BeenThere: xlog-discussion@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --0F1p//8PRICkK4MW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hi Joop! Here is the long awaited flexible patch I promised you. Read/write old format has been tested, as well as the new flexible format (flog). I've also tested version 0.4 and version 0.5 (autodetected) conversion to the new format. The new logfile.c will also allow import/export function from the File menu. Attached is the patch against beta1 and some notes taken from the mailing list about xlog-format. Note: I don't know if it's a new bug I introduced, but if clist hasn't been saved, and you quit xlog, even though you click "yes" to the popup window, the clist is not saved. 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The .xlog is a good move for the extension name. Let's say this will be the extension name of the future flexible format. This way we can distinguish between old and new format. Let's say the first line of the file will determine the number of columns in the file, and their size. 123456789012345678901234567890123456789 <- this ruler is not part of the file NR CALLSIGN GMT DATE 1 N0CALL/1 1402 10 nov 2001 2 NO/CALL 2133 25 nov 2001 In this example, NR is 4 chars wide, Callsign is 15 chars, GMT is 8 cahrs, etc. Okay, this is only an example. Remarks can be either the last field at the end of line or on a line by itself. Anyway, what matters in this flexible format, is the ability to have a file like the following one, that would be supported by xlog. 12345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789 NR GMT CALLSIGN NEWFIELD DATE 1 1402 N0CALL/1 foo 10 nov 2001 2 2133 NO/CALL bar 25 nov 2001 The nice thing about this, is the ability to add fields, and being upward compatible. Simple, no black magic, easy to code, and would makes everyone happy. REM: no tab, at least one space between 2 field names last field is variable length (limited to 255 chars). Upgrade path: Then, at startup, xlog can check for the presence of the old log file format in ~/.xlog/log, and if found, load and delete it. Then, at xlog close time, save the clist with the new file format (and pathname from preferences). This should be seamsless for the user. Next time, since there's no more ~/.xlog/log file, log_file_open() would open the new file. API --- LOGDB* log_file_open(pathname, logtype) log_file_close(LOGDB*) log_create_file(pathname, logtype, columns_name[], columns_width[]) and maybe log_add_column(LOGDB*, pos, name, width)/ log_delete_column(LOGDB*, pos) When a qso is deleted, the log is renumbered. This is something to remember. As you may have seen from the log file itself, the number is derived from the position in the text file. The top entry in the file is QSO #1, etc. When refering to a QSO in the clist, the QSO number is derived from the first field. Once the log file is opened, we may need: qso_t* get_qso_from_nr(nr) update_qso(nr, qso_t) nr add_qso(qso_t) return newly created unique nr foreach_qso((*fn)(qso_t)) iterate on each qso, call fn() with qso data delete_qso(nr) --0F1p//8PRICkK4MW-- From pa3aba@debian.org Mon Feb 04 02:36:56 2002 Received: from huygens.rijnh.nl ([192.42.124.30]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16XdgO-0002S4-00 for ; Mon, 04 Feb 2002 02:36:56 -0500 Received: from pcecrh4 (joosta@pcecrh4.rijnh.nl [192.42.126.127]) by huygens.rijnh.nl (SGI-8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA44836; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 08:37:59 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 08:36:47 +0100 From: Joop Stakenborg To: f4cfe@free.fr Cc: xlog-discussion@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org Subject: Re: [Xlog-discussion] first 0.6 beta release Message-Id: <20020204083647.035f5caf.pa3aba@debian.org> Organization: Debian GNU/Linux X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-debian-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xlog-discussion-admin@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org Errors-To: xlog-discussion-admin@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org X-BeenThere: xlog-discussion@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sun, 3 Feb 2002 18:44:37 +0100 Stephane Fillod wrote: > On Sun, Feb 03, 2002, Joop Stakenborg wrote: > > I have been thinking about modes, but what about soundcard based software > > (MT63, rtty with linpsk, gmfsk and twpsk). I have my rig tuned to SSB mode, > > but I am not actually working in SSB. > > Not a problem, this is up to the operator. Fortunately, the computer is > not to replace him or she anytime soon. hi!. > I agree with you, xlog won't be able to guess when you're operating a > soundcard based mode, and it's acceptable. However, when you know you are > operating USB phone, then clicking on the "Mode" button may help. > The same goes for other modes, it's only when the operator decides it. > Okay. that's sensible. I will add a mode button in beta2 together with an RST button. > > That's a nice idea. We could calculate the avarage power during the QSO > > and log that. I will leave it for later, when we have the flexible file > > format, so we can add a power column. Will put it in the todo list. > > No need for average. The same applies to RFPOWER and signal strenght. > It's done when the operator decides it. However, calculating averages > can make interresting statistical data. > There will probably be a great deal of statistic which can be retrieved from the rig. Maybe we can add some of these to a future version. > Talking about flexible file format, I'm almost done. I have a patched > beta version that's able to load 0.4 and 0.5 old file format, and saving > to 0.5 format. It is also able to open multiple logs at the same time. > flexible format is on its way. Coming up next are twlog and ADIF format, > and why not Cabrillo. > That's nice. Glade to see you have something working. > > > > I've started, somewhat works, but I'm wondering if using libtool would be > > > better (using .la). A patch should follow soon. > > > > Too bad I can't help out. I am not familiar with libtool. > > There's nothing much to know about libtool in our case. Just to add a > macro or two in configure.in, and the we would be able to use LIBADD > in Makefile.am and specify the .la file instead of messing with LIBS. > Perhaps, let's stick to the LIBS since it works fine so far. > > > Cheers, > Stephane F8CFE > Thanks, Joop PA4TU -- Joop Stakenborg FOM-instituut Rijnhuizen tel. 030-6096862 From joosta@rijnh.nl Mon Feb 04 02:46:32 2002 Received: from huygens.rijnh.nl ([192.42.124.30]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16Xdpg-0002n5-00 for ; Mon, 04 Feb 2002 02:46:32 -0500 Received: from pcecrh4 (joosta@pcecrh4.rijnh.nl [192.42.126.127]) by huygens.rijnh.nl (SGI-8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA16122; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 08:47:41 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 08:46:21 +0100 From: Joop Stakenborg To: Stephane Fillod Cc: xlog-discussion@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org Subject: Re: [Xlog-discussion] flexible format Message-Id: <20020204084621.6b72fe3e.joosta@rijnh.nl> In-Reply-To: <20020204000506.GA13839@charybde> References: <20020131213237.134593b5.pa3aba@debian.org> <20020201094431.GE5223@charybde> <20020201112517.3da9f133.pa3aba@debian.org> <20020201181647.GA32606@charybde> <20020203003444.19bdf5f4.pa3aba@debian.org> <20020204000506.GA13839@charybde> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-debian-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xlog-discussion-admin@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org Errors-To: xlog-discussion-admin@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org X-BeenThere: xlog-discussion@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, 4 Feb 2002 01:05:06 +0100 Stephane Fillod wrote: > > Hi Joop! > > Here is the long awaited flexible patch I promised you. > Read/write old format has been tested, as well as the new > flexible format (flog). I've also tested version 0.4 and version 0.5 > (autodetected) conversion to the new format. > The new logfile.c will also allow import/export function from the File > menu. > Attached is the patch against beta1 and some notes taken from the mailing > list about xlog-format. > Great work Stephane! I am working on the log search function (almost done). Expect a new beta release soon. > Note: I don't know if it's a new bug I introduced, but if clist hasn't > been saved, and you quit xlog, even though you click "yes" to the popup > window, the clist is not saved. > Well, maybe this dialog is not clear enough. It says: "Your log has not been saved, do you want to quit anyway?" So, if you click yes, it will not be saved.... > Cheers, > Stephane F8CFE > Regards, Joop PA4TU From pa3aba@debian.org Mon Feb 04 02:59:43 2002 Received: from huygens.rijnh.nl ([192.42.124.30]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16Xe2R-0003Hx-00 for ; Mon, 04 Feb 2002 02:59:43 -0500 Received: from pcecrh4 (joosta@pcecrh4.rijnh.nl [192.42.126.127]) by huygens.rijnh.nl (SGI-8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA39720; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 09:00:51 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 08:59:29 +0100 From: Joop Stakenborg To: bryn@pcpractice.com Cc: xlog-discussion@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org Subject: Re: [Xlog-discussion] Suggestions on XLog Message-Id: <20020204085930.1b5980e6.pa3aba@debian.org> In-Reply-To: <0202031042300C.30430@N4VM.com> References: <0202031042300C.30430@N4VM.com> Organization: Debian GNU/Linux X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-debian-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xlog-discussion-admin@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org Errors-To: xlog-discussion-admin@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org X-BeenThere: xlog-discussion@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sun, 3 Feb 2002 10:42:30 -0600 Bryn Joynes wrote: > Hi, > Hi bryn. > Have been looking at writing a logging program for linux for sometime, but it > looks like I might not have to write one now. You have a great base to > improve on with XLog. So if I maybe as so bold to suggest the following. > Please excuse me if these have already been suggested. > > 1. Multiple logs > 2. Dupe checking within a log > 3. Search ability with parameters. > Yes, 1 and 3 will be in the next version. You might want to keep track of upcoming beta versions, which are announced on xlog-discussion. The next beta will have a search function, so you can comment on it. > These additions would make a great basic logging and contest logging program. > I have not thought about dupe checking before. Would be an interesting point. I will add it to the TODO list. By the way Bryn, if you know a bit of c and/or gtk, you are happy to join xlog development. There are 2 people contributing at the moment: Stephane, F8FCE and myself. Development is done by distributing patches and beta versions before a new version comes out, but we will probably have CVS in the future. > Best Regards > > Bryn > N4VM FP#200 "oo" > Regards, Joop PA4TU From pa3aba@debian.org Wed Feb 20 02:37:09 2002 Received: from huygens.rijnh.nl ([192.42.124.30]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16dRJN-0005Dx-00 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2002 02:37:09 -0500 Received: from pcecrh4 (joosta@pcecrh4.rijnh.nl [192.42.126.127]) by huygens.rijnh.nl (SGI-8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA84532 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2002 08:38:28 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 08:40:10 +0100 From: Joop Stakenborg To: xlog-discussion@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org Message-Id: <20020220084010.6cebc730.pa3aba@debian.org> Organization: Debian GNU/Linux X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.2 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-debian-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Xlog-discussion] second 0.6 beta Sender: xlog-discussion-admin@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org Errors-To: xlog-discussion-admin@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org X-BeenThere: xlog-discussion@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: The message I have sent last night from home does not seem to have reached the list yet, so here is a second try from the office (hopefully savannah is not the problem). Part of it I have to type from the head, so you might want to read the original message if it still reaches this list..... I have uploaded the second beta. It is available from the usual place: http://auric.debian.org/~pa3aba If you own a kenwood rig and want to try hamlib support, be sure to get the latest CVS version. Xlog uses rig_get_ptt, which has been committed too the CVS kenwood tree yesterday. This version is of special interest to Ted, twpsk is now supported! Here is an extract from the changelog: * Patch by Stephane for the flexible log format. Should be a good starting point for adding more log fields and using multiple logs. * When search is selected from the menu (same as Ctrl+f) a dialog is displayed where a searchstring can be entered. This is compared with the callsigns in the log. In the dialog where the results are displayed, you can select a QSO, the corresponding QSO in the log will also be selected. * Add Ted Williams' scheme of sharing memory between applications. When a call is entered, it will show up in twpsk's send widget (where you type your text) when hitting Shift+Alt+h. Shift+Alt+o will show 'hiscall de mycall'. * Autosave function added, time can be set in minutes through the preferences dialog. The log is saved if it has been changed. * Mode and signal strength is retrieved from the rig. Clickable buttons added to the QSO frame. * Created a dockable s-meter for the statusbar which uses a pixmap to draw the signal level from S0-S9. Most noticable change for a user is that the log now is saved to ~/.xlog/log.xlog. The top line of this file contains the name of the log columns and also describes field widths and number of columns. Thanks to Stephane for writing this. He is now an official xlog developer ;-), see the AUTHORS file. The next release, which will probably be the last beta before 0.6 comes out, will hopefully have multiple logs and a configurable number of columns. Regards, Joop PA4TU From pa3aba@debian.org Mon Feb 25 07:58:05 2002 Received: from huygens.rijnh.nl ([192.42.124.30]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16fKhg-0005Ym-00 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 07:58:04 -0500 Received: from pcecrh4 (joosta@pcecrh4.rijnh.nl [192.42.126.127]) by huygens.rijnh.nl (SGI-8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA72429 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 13:59:21 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 14:02:33 +0100 From: Joop Stakenborg To: xlog-discussion@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org Message-Id: <20020225140234.1f16b32c.pa3aba@debian.org> Organization: Debian GNU/Linux X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.2 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-debian-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Xlog-discussion] Multiple log quicky (0.6 beta 3) Sender: xlog-discussion-admin@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org Errors-To: xlog-discussion-admin@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org X-BeenThere: xlog-discussion@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Don't know who ever suggested adding multiple logs to xlog (was it you Stephane?), but it sure is great stuff. Have a look at the new beta at http://auric.debian.org/~pa3aba/xlog-0.6beta3.tar.gz Some issues: I have disabled sorting the log, when clicking on the callsign column. Do we still need it, now we have log search capabilities? I stopped colorization of the callsigns in the log. I noticed the logs load much faster, because I do not have to set the color for every row. Stephane, I have started using your routines in logfile.h, you might want to have a peek at the code to see if you see anything odd. Most of it is in main.c, lines 274-345. There also is a compiler warning which I don't know how to fix. Cheers, Joop PA4TU From bryn@pcpractice.com Mon Feb 25 11:00:39 2002 Received: from mail07b.vwh1.net ([209.238.9.59]) by fencepost.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16fNYM-00069C-00 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 11:00:39 -0500 Received: from www.pcpractice.com (208.55.21.137) by mail07b.vwh1.net (RS ver 1.0.60s) with SMTP id 046587484; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 11:00:13 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Bryn Joynes Reply-To: bryn@pcpractice.com To: Joop Stakenborg Subject: Re: [Xlog-discussion] Multiple log quicky (0.6 beta 3) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 10:01:20 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <20020225140234.1f16b32c.pa3aba@debian.org> In-Reply-To: <20020225140234.1f16b32c.pa3aba@debian.org> Cc: xlog-discussion@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <02022510012008.21193@N4VM.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Loop-Detect: 1 Sender: xlog-discussion-admin@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org Errors-To: xlog-discussion-admin@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org X-BeenThere: xlog-discussion@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, Downloaded xlog-0.6beta3 and installed. Once again a good install. I had xlog0.5 from a RPM installed already. I sent an email to this reflector a couple of weeks ago about multiple logs, as well as a search function. Both of these seem to work fine. I do have one more suggestion, and that is dupe checking of callsigns. This would I believe open the program up to general logging and general contest logging. What I mean by general contest logging is the ham who wants to logging his contacts, but not submit a log. I often play in a contest just to work a new country of state, but do not intend to submit a log, it is here that dupe checking of calls would be nice. Sometime in the future, merging of logs would be nice, but not essential yet. Also the ability to close logs, and open logs at random. Now a couple of problems I have seen. When I first opened xlog0.6 it found my old log. I added a new log, added a few contacts, left without saving. Satrted xlog0.6 to find my old log had been deleted, and the new log hadtaken its place. Added a new another new log to the existing new log, saved and exited, restarted xlog0.6 and all seems well. When entering a callsign I notice this message in the lower left hand status window. "Minutes out of range (0-59)". Thank you for all the work everyone has done. I program some, but not in C or C++, but maybe I could help in otherways, just let me know. Best Regards Bryn N4VM I'm sure others had made the suggestion of multiple logs, along with myself. One other suggestion On Monday 25 February 2002 07:02, you wrote: > Don't know who ever suggested adding multiple logs to xlog > (was it you Stephane?), but it sure is great stuff. > Have a look at the new beta at > http://auric.debian.org/~pa3aba/xlog-0.6beta3.tar.gz > > Some issues: > I have disabled sorting the log, when clicking on the > callsign column. Do we still need it, now we have > log search capabilities? > > I stopped colorization of the callsigns in the log. > I noticed the logs load much faster, because I do not > have to set the color for every row. > > Stephane, I have started using your routines in logfile.h, > you might want to have a peek at the code to see if you > see anything odd. Most of it is in main.c, lines 274-345. > There also is a compiler warning which I don't know how > to fix. > > Cheers, > Joop PA4TU > > _______________________________________________ > Xlog-discussion mailing list > Xlog-discussion@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org > http://mail.freesoftware.fsf.org/mailman/listinfo/xlog-discussion From bryn@pcpractice.com Mon Feb 25 11:37:55 2002 Received: from mail07b.vwh1.net ([209.238.9.59]) by fencepost.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16fO8R-0001d3-00 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 11:37:55 -0500 Received: from www.pcpractice.com (208.55.21.137) by mail07b.vwh1.net (RS ver 1.0.60s) with SMTP id 046761966 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 11:37:27 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Bryn Joynes Reply-To: bryn@pcpractice.com Subject: Re: [Xlog-discussion] Multiple log quicky (0.6 beta 3) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 10:38:32 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <20020225140234.1f16b32c.pa3aba@debian.org> <02022510012008.21193@N4VM.com> In-Reply-To: <02022510012008.21193@N4VM.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0202251038160A.21193@N4VM.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit To: xlog-discussion@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org X-Loop-Detect: 1 Sender: xlog-discussion-admin@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org Errors-To: xlog-discussion-admin@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org X-BeenThere: xlog-discussion@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, Please ignore below in previous post. Have found the file, checked to make sure the new file format was implemented, which it was, changed the file name, and it works fine. > > Now a couple of problems I have seen. When I first opened xlog0.6 it found > my old log. I added a new log, added a few contacts, left without saving. > Satrted xlog0.6 to find my old log had been deleted, and the new log > hadtaken its place. Added a new another new log to the existing new log, > saved and exited, restarted xlog0.6 and all seems well. > Thanks Bryn N4VM From pa3aba@debian.org Mon Feb 25 16:17:39 2002 Received: from green.nl.gxn.net ([62.100.30.36]) by fencepost.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16fSV9-000335-00 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 16:17:39 -0500 Received: from gateway.pa4tu.net (hmm-dca-ap01-d06-025.dial.freesurf.nl [62.100.39.25]) by green.nl.gxn.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9883421630 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 22:17:37 +0100 (MET) Received: from [172.16.0.3] (helo=pc3 ident=aba) by gateway.pa4tu.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16fSbW-00004m-00 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 22:24:14 +0100 Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 22:19:21 +0100 From: Joop Stakenborg To: xlog-discussion@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org Message-Id: <20020225221921.71c76676.pa3aba@debian.org> Organization: Debian GNU/Linux X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-debian-linux-gnu) X-Face: yuSM.z0$PasG_!+)P;ugu5P+@#JEocHIpArGcQZ^hcGos8:DBJ-tfTQYWyf`$2r0vfaoo7F|h.;Agl'@x8v]?{#ZLQDqSB:L^6RXGfF_fD+G9$c:)p List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Now that we have the flexible file format, we can start thinking about adding, deleting and editing columns in the log. A proposal how this could look as a gui is at http://auric.debian.org/~pa3aba/log_editor.png Feel free to comment. It looks a bit rudimentary, but it was 10 minutes of work clicking away in glade. Cheers, Joop PA4TU From pa3aba@debian.org Mon Feb 25 16:27:19 2002 Received: from green.nl.gxn.net ([62.100.30.36]) by fencepost.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16fSeV-00040r-00 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 16:27:19 -0500 Received: from gateway.pa4tu.net (hmm-dca-ap01-d06-025.dial.freesurf.nl [62.100.39.25]) by green.nl.gxn.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B47F214F4; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 22:27:17 +0100 (MET) Received: from [172.16.0.3] (helo=pc3 ident=aba) by gateway.pa4tu.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16fSkr-00004s-00; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 22:33:53 +0100 Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 22:29:01 +0100 From: Joop Stakenborg To: bryn@pcpractice.com Cc: xlog-discussion@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org Subject: Re: [Xlog-discussion] Multiple log quicky (0.6 beta 3) Message-Id: <20020225222901.2bdd8177.pa3aba@debian.org> In-Reply-To: <02022510012008.21193@N4VM.com> References: <20020225140234.1f16b32c.pa3aba@debian.org> <02022510012008.21193@N4VM.com> Organization: Debian GNU/Linux X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-debian-linux-gnu) X-Face: ?pJ]:,i!W07cVBYm%n;M_1V)(3G:`:D6i+idz}j]X)>i%v^Q!%uyvE^E^Z["N>C\8S(|Bj} .Muh4y4%g=3D?*Bz=UQgx@sYr]C/a:6qb\z?/n?UUb'6G78M3EH`0bPdQpiKckK^`V;Yo+!1XTSQ_r i0e,$PXLrbcg3;FGM\.x{f:7|5]#l|++F3v Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: xlog-discussion-admin@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org Errors-To: xlog-discussion-admin@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org X-BeenThere: xlog-discussion@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, 25 Feb 2002 10:01:20 -0600 Bryn Joynes wrote: > Hi, > > Downloaded xlog-0.6beta3 and installed. Once again a good install. I had > xlog0.5 from a RPM installed already. > Thanks for testing this Bryn, Maybe you noticed xlog will crash of you use PgUp/PgDn keys. I forgot to adapt that bit for multiple logs. If it is very annoying, I can upload a fix. Keep your logs in a safe place of you can, since there might still be some other issues. > I sent an email to this reflector a couple of weeks ago about multiple logs, > as well as a search function. Both of these seem to work fine. I do have > one more suggestion, and that is dupe checking of callsigns. This would I > believe open the program up to general logging and general contest logging. > What I mean by general contest logging is the ham who wants to logging his > contacts, but not submit a log. I often play in a contest just to work a new > country of state, but do not intend to submit a log, it is here that dupe > checking of calls would be nice. > Dupe checking should be fairly easy to program. It all depends on what you want. Should there be a start and ending date for the dupe checking, or just the whole log? If you just want to check the complete log, I can put it in 0.6 beta4. It is probably very easy to code. > Sometime in the future, merging of logs would be nice, but not essential yet. > Also the ability to close logs, and open logs at random. > Yes, and the ability to say which logs you want to have displayed at startup. > When entering a callsign I notice this message in the lower left hand status > window. "Minutes out of range (0-59)". > There must be a wrong entry in the preferences dialog for your location. > > Thank you for all the work everyone has done. I program some, but not in C > or C++, but maybe I could help in otherways, just let me know. > I am glad you can take some time testing xlog. > Best Regards > > Bryn > N4VM > > Joop PA4TU From bryn@pcpractice.com Mon Feb 25 17:13:19 2002 Received: from mail07b.vwh1.net ([209.238.9.59]) by fencepost.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16fTAR-0007Xm-00 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 17:00:20 -0500 Received: from www.pcpractice.com (208.55.21.137) by mail07b.vwh1.net (RS ver 1.0.60s) with SMTP id 047013405 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 17:00:02 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Bryn Joynes Reply-To: bryn@pcpractice.com To: xlog-discussion@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org Subject: Re: [Xlog-discussion] Multiple log quicky (0.6 beta 3) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 16:01:10 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <20020225140234.1f16b32c.pa3aba@debian.org> <02022510012008.21193@N4VM.com> <20020225222901.2bdd8177.pa3aba@debian.org> In-Reply-To: <20020225222901.2bdd8177.pa3aba@debian.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <02022516011000.00799@N4VM.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Loop-Detect: 1 Sender: xlog-discussion-admin@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org Errors-To: xlog-discussion-admin@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org X-BeenThere: xlog-discussion@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Joop, Thanks for the quick reply. A dupe check of the complete log would be fine. You often hear people on the radio pulling up contacts from years ago. Maybe we could start with a complete log check, and refine it via the search function for date interevals. Or you have dupe checking selectable by the user. BTW, when searching for "N" as the first character of a call, it also finds any call with "N" in the call. Example, search for "N" finds N4VM and VE1BRN. Something neat that I found, the ability to copy calls from one log to another. With numerous logs open, select the QSO, change logs and use the add button. You keep writing, and I will keep testing. I think this is a great logging program, with a lot of potential. Best Regards Bryn P.S. Bugs in the progarm, would you prefer me to send them to the list or directly to you? From stephane.fillod@worldonline.fr Mon Feb 25 19:34:34 2002 Received: from postfix2-2.free.fr ([213.228.0.140]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16fVZh-0005bp-00 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 19:34:33 -0500 Received: from charybde.localdomain (rennes-1-a7-96-74.dial.proxad.net [62.147.96.74]) by postfix2-2.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3746F5F713 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 01:34:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from fillods by charybde.localdomain with local (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16fSoy-00010R-00 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 22:38:08 +0100 Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 22:38:08 +0100 From: Stephane Fillod To: Xlog mailing list Message-ID: <20020225213808.GD1522@charybde> Mail-Followup-To: Stephane Fillod , Xlog mailing list References: <20020219202440.0477bd27.pa3aba@debian.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020219202440.0477bd27.pa3aba@debian.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i Subject: [Xlog-discussion] Re: second 0.6 beta Sender: xlog-discussion-admin@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org Errors-To: xlog-discussion-admin@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org X-BeenThere: xlog-discussion@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Tue, Feb 19, 2002, Joop Stakenborg wrote: [...] > * Autosave function added, time can be set in minutes through the preferences > dialog. The log is saved if it has been changed. nice and well thought feature > * Mode and signal strength is retrieved from the rig. Clickable buttons added > to the QSO frame. > * Created a dockable s-meter for the statusbar which uses a pixmap to draw the > signal level from S0-S9. Who said Hamlib is not fun ? hi. > Most noticable for users of xlog: from now on, logs will be saved to > ~/.xlog/log.xlog, the top line of this file will indicate the number of fields, > field name and field width. ~/.xlog/log.xlog is good as a default. However, to me, only preferences should go in the ~/.xlog directory. Data have a right to be somewhere else. With a multi-log capability, instead of loading *.xlog from ~/.xlog, maybe remembering in ~/.xlog/perferences the pathname of last open log files should be enough. What do you think? > Also, Stephane is now officialy a xlog developer ;-), see the AUTHORS file. > So, next beta (probably the latest before 0.6) will hopefully have > multiple logs and a configurable number of fields. Ah! I'm waiting for the configurable number of fields for a long time. Actually this is the only "feature" I still miss to switch to xlog as my main logging application. Why? because in France, we are _required_ to log also the End time of the QSO and the transmitted Power. And then, expect to see a patch to import twlog log files very quick ;-) Cheers, Stephane From stephane.fillod@worldonline.fr Mon Feb 25 19:34:36 2002 Received: from postfix1-2.free.fr ([213.228.0.130]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16fVZk-0005bz-00 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 19:34:36 -0500 Received: from charybde.localdomain (rennes-1-a7-96-74.dial.proxad.net [62.147.96.74]) by postfix1-2.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC6CCAB027 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 01:34:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from fillods by charybde.localdomain with local (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16fQxB-0000rG-00 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 20:38:29 +0100 Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 20:38:29 +0100 From: Stephane Fillod To: Xlog mailing list Subject: Re: [Xlog-discussion] Multiple log quicky (0.6 beta 3) Message-ID: <20020225193829.GA1522@charybde> Mail-Followup-To: Stephane Fillod , Xlog mailing list References: <20020225140234.1f16b32c.pa3aba@debian.org> <02022510012008.21193@N4VM.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <02022510012008.21193@N4VM.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i Sender: xlog-discussion-admin@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org Errors-To: xlog-discussion-admin@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org X-BeenThere: xlog-discussion@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, Feb 25, 2002, Bryn Joynes wrote: > one more suggestion, and that is dupe checking of callsigns. This would I > believe open the program up to general logging and general contest logging. > What I mean by general contest logging is the ham who wants to logging his > contacts, but not submit a log. I often play in a contest just to work a new > country of state, but do not intend to submit a log, it is here that dupe > checking of calls would be nice. And even when not playing in a contest, it's still nice to be reminded that you have already made a QSO with this call sign. You can check if conditions are better than the previous time, and also if the QSL card arrived fine. hi. 73's Stephane From stephane.fillod@worldonline.fr Mon Feb 25 19:34:41 2002 Received: from postfix2-2.free.fr ([213.228.0.140]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16fVZo-0005cD-00 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 19:34:40 -0500 Received: from charybde.localdomain (rennes-1-a7-96-74.dial.proxad.net [62.147.96.74]) by postfix2-2.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C0FC5F776 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 01:34:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from fillods by charybde.localdomain with local (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16fVZP-0000Nr-00 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 01:34:15 +0100 Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 01:34:15 +0100 From: Stephane Fillod To: Xlog mailing list Subject: Re: [Xlog-discussion] Multiple log quicky (0.6 beta 3) Message-ID: <20020226003414.GA464@charybde> Mail-Followup-To: Stephane Fillod , Xlog mailing list References: <20020225140234.1f16b32c.pa3aba@debian.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="WIyZ46R2i8wDzkSu" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020225140234.1f16b32c.pa3aba@debian.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i Sender: xlog-discussion-admin@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org Errors-To: xlog-discussion-admin@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org X-BeenThere: xlog-discussion@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --WIyZ46R2i8wDzkSu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, Feb 25, 2002, Joop Stakenborg wrote: > Don't know who ever suggested adding multiple logs to xlog > (was it you Stephane?), but it sure is great stuff. No, it was Bryn. I was the one begging for more fields ;-) > Have a look at the new beta at > http://auric.debian.org/~pa3aba/xlog-0.6beta3.tar.gz Compile okay, the multi log notebook is great! And the NR field can even help in "convenience" contest logging. > Some issues: > I have disabled sorting the log, when clicking on the > callsign column. Do we still need it, now we have > log search capabilities? No, just keep the entries sorted in the order they were entered, or maybe in chronological reverse-order? > I stopped colorization of the callsigns in the log. > I noticed the logs load much faster, because I do not > have to set the color for every row. Too bad, it was cute when colorized. Maybe setting colors afterwards, once the log is totally loaded, can be much faster? > Stephane, I have started using your routines in logfile.h, > you might want to have a peek at the code to see if you > see anything odd. Most of it is in main.c, lines 274-345. Looks fine to me. I haven't tested again with old version files, but it looks like Byrn did it. > There also is a compiler warning which I don't know how > to fix. fixed in the attached patch. About the TODO file: :Wishlist from Stephan, DL6RDR: :* Cabrillo import and export. Planned using lex & yacc. Otherwise, it would take ages, especially if you're a big contester (ie. huge files). ADIF will be done the same way. :* Comma seperated log import. Should be pretty easy. The only question to solve is to which field belong the columns? Stephan, if you're reading this, do you have something in mind, like 'editest' output files? :Stephane Fillod, F8CFE: :* Interface with text, db3 and SQL databases. db3 and SQL db left as an exercice for those who need it. :* Support more than one open log at a time. looks like we're already at it. :* Adif import and export (also cabrillo). yep (cf lex&yacc note). Besides file formats, importing and exporting would be quite useful. - Import: in the "Log" menu, there could be "Import as new...", and also "Import and merge with current...". Both would let the operator choose the log file format in the file chooser dialog box. - Export: also in the "Log" menu, "Export to new file" with ability to choose the log file format among supported ones, which is nothing else but a kind of standard "Save as". And also an "Export and merge with existing file". This last one is a lot less easier to implement, and by the way, can be achieved with previous funtions. Could this be done before the final release? The twlog import should come very soon (it's working already). Stupid question (yes, the answer should be in the source :) In which log is stored a remote QSO (through the msg queueing) ? Is it in the current log? Cheers Stephane F8CFE --WIyZ46R2i8wDzkSu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="xlog-0.6beta3-warn-fix.patch" --- xlog-0.6beta3/src/main.c Mon Feb 25 13:26:39 2002 +++ xlog-0.6beta3-f8cfe/src/main.c Mon Feb 25 21:37:52 2002 @@ -177,13 +177,15 @@ } /*static gint fillin_clist(LOGDB *handle, qso_t q[], gpointer arg) {*/ -static gint fillin_clist(LOGDB *handle, qso_t q[], logtype *arg) { +static gint fillin_clist(LOGDB *handle, qso_t q[], gpointer arg) { + logtype *logw = (logtype *)arg; + state.qsos++; - arg->qsos++; + logw->qsos++; /* q[NR] = g_strdup_printf("%d", state.qsos);*/ - q[NR] = g_strdup_printf("%d", arg->qsos); + q[NR] = g_strdup_printf("%d", logw->qsos); /* gtk_clist_prepend((GtkCList*)arg, q);*/ - gtk_clist_prepend((GtkCList*)(arg->clist), q); + gtk_clist_prepend((GtkCList*)(logw->clist), q); return 0; } --WIyZ46R2i8wDzkSu-- From stephane.fillod@worldonline.fr Mon Feb 25 20:18:09 2002 Received: from postfix2-2.free.fr ([213.228.0.140]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16fWFt-0007WW-00 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 20:18:09 -0500 Received: from charybde.localdomain (rennes-1-a7-96-142.dial.proxad.net [62.147.96.142]) by postfix2-2.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id EACBD5F785 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 02:18:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from fillods by charybde.localdomain with local (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16fWFQ-00016M-00 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 02:17:40 +0100 Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 02:17:37 +0100 From: Stephane Fillod To: Xlog mailing list Subject: Re: [Xlog-discussion] Design proposal for the log editor Message-ID: <20020226011737.GD464@charybde> Mail-Followup-To: Stephane Fillod , Xlog mailing list References: <20020225221921.71c76676.pa3aba@debian.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020225221921.71c76676.pa3aba@debian.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i Sender: xlog-discussion-admin@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org Errors-To: xlog-discussion-admin@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org X-BeenThere: xlog-discussion@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, Feb 25, Joop Stakenborg wrote: > Now that we have the flexible file format, we can start thinking > about adding, deleting and editing columns in the log. > > A proposal how this could look as a gui is at > http://auric.debian.org/~pa3aba/log_editor.png Yes! There's all the fields I've been dreaming of :) By the way, I guess there will be default field withs filled in the form. > Feel free to comment. It looks a bit rudimentary, but it was > 10 minutes of work clicking away in glade. The things the simpler are often the better. Let me know when you'll have the new field coded in xlog, so I can adapt the log file management code accordingly. Cheers, Stephane F8CFE From pa3aba@debian.org Tue Feb 26 15:34:04 2002 Received: from green.nl.gxn.net ([62.100.30.36]) by fencepost.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16foIW-0000nY-00 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 15:34:04 -0500 Received: from gateway.pa4tu.net (hmm-dca-ap01-d03-185.dial.freesurf.nl [62.100.36.185]) by green.nl.gxn.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3290E21CC9 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 21:33:58 +0100 (MET) Received: from [172.16.0.3] (helo=pc3 ident=aba) by gateway.pa4tu.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16foN7-00004c-00 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 21:38:49 +0100 Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 21:33:38 +0100 From: Joop Stakenborg To: xlog-discussion@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org Subject: Re: [Xlog-discussion] Re: second 0.6 beta Message-Id: <20020226213338.301af530.pa3aba@debian.org> In-Reply-To: <20020225213808.GD1522@charybde> References: <20020219202440.0477bd27.pa3aba@debian.org> <20020225213808.GD1522@charybde> Organization: Debian GNU/Linux X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-debian-linux-gnu) X-Face: yuSM.z0$PasG_!+)P;ugu5P+@#JEocHIpArGcQZ^hcGos8:DBJ-tfTQYWyf`$2r0vfaoo7F|h.;Agl'@x8v]?{#ZLQDqSB:L^6RXGfF_fD+G9$c:)p List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, 25 Feb 2002 22:38:08 +0100 Stephane Fillod wrote: > > * Mode and signal strength is retrieved from the rig. Clickable buttons added > > to the QSO frame. > > * Created a dockable s-meter for the statusbar which uses a pixmap to draw the > > signal level from S0-S9. > > Who said Hamlib is not fun ? hi. > There is no life without hamlib. > > Most noticable for users of xlog: from now on, logs will be saved to > > ~/.xlog/log.xlog, the top line of this file will indicate the number of fields, > > field name and field width. > > ~/.xlog/log.xlog is good as a default. However, to me, only preferences > should go in the ~/.xlog directory. Data have a right to be somewhere > else. With a multi-log capability, instead of loading *.xlog from ~/.xlog, > maybe remembering in ~/.xlog/preferences the pathname of last open log > files should be enough. What do you think? > I will put a default path in the preferences dialog for the logs. Should be easy. > > Also, Stephane is now officialy a xlog developer ;-), see the AUTHORS file. > > So, next beta (probably the latest before 0.6) will hopefully have > > multiple logs and a configurable number of fields. > Skip that (about the last beta). There will be more betas. Maybe we can bump the version number to 1.0 once everything is working. > Ah! I'm waiting for the configurable number of fields for a long time. > Actually this is the only "feature" I still miss to switch to xlog as my > main logging application. Why? because in France, we are _required_ to > log also the End time of the QSO and the transmitted Power. > And then, expect to see a patch to import twlog log files very quick ;-) > Agreed, xlog should be usable for just any ham, indifferent of country, mode or band (hf/vhf/uhf). I plan to add the wwl code to xlog for calculating locator based distances. > > Cheers, > Stephane > Cheerio, Joop PA4TU From pa3aba@debian.org Tue Feb 26 15:34:05 2002 Received: from green.nl.gxn.net ([62.100.30.36]) by fencepost.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16foIX-0000oC-00 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 15:34:05 -0500 Received: from gateway.pa4tu.net (hmm-dca-ap01-d03-185.dial.freesurf.nl [62.100.36.185]) by green.nl.gxn.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E7D521ACE for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 21:34:03 +0100 (MET) Received: from [172.16.0.3] (helo=pc3 ident=aba) by gateway.pa4tu.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16foEA-00004W-00 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 21:29:34 +0100 Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 21:24:24 +0100 From: Joop Stakenborg To: xlog-discussion@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org Subject: Re: [Xlog-discussion] Multiple log quicky (0.6 beta 3) Message-Id: <20020226212424.591f360e.pa3aba@debian.org> In-Reply-To: <20020226003414.GA464@charybde> References: <20020225140234.1f16b32c.pa3aba@debian.org> <20020226003414.GA464@charybde> Organization: Debian GNU/Linux X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-debian-linux-gnu) X-Face: yuSM.z0$PasG_!+)P;ugu5P+@#JEocHIpArGcQZ^hcGos8:DBJ-tfTQYWyf`$2r0vfaoo7F|h.;Agl'@x8v]?{#ZLQDqSB:L^6RXGfF_fD+G9$c:)p List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Tue, 26 Feb 2002 01:34:15 +0100 Stephane Fillod wrote: > > I stopped colorization of the callsigns in the log. > > I noticed the logs load much faster, because I do not > > have to set the color for every row. > > Too bad, it was cute when colorized. Maybe setting colors afterwards, once > the log is totally loaded, can be much faster? > Setting the style is done before the main window appears. Either way, going through every row of the log (nearly 1000 QSO's in my case) and setting the style for every row, takes a lot of time. At the office, where I have a pentium 200, the log takes about 3 seconds to appear. No problem however, I will make colorization optional, so people can decide if they want their logs fast or just cute ;-). > > Stephane, I have started using your routines in logfile.h, > > you might want to have a peek at the code to see if you > > see anything odd. Most of it is in main.c, lines 274-345. > > Looks fine to me. I haven't tested again with old version files, > but it looks like Byrn did it. > Last time I tested it, both 0.4 and 0.5 version logs were fine, as was the new format. I will do some tests again to make sure. > > There also is a compiler warning which I don't know how > > to fix. > > fixed in the attached patch. > > Thanks! > About the TODO file: > :Wishlist from Stephan, DL6RDR: > :* Cabrillo import and export. > > Planned using lex & yacc. Otherwise, it would take ages, especially if > you're a big contester (ie. huge files). ADIF will be done the same way. > Whoops, way to go! This powerfull lex and yacc stuff is still on my wishlist to take a look at. Will be very interesting to see how you are going to solve this! > :* Comma seperated log import. > > Should be pretty easy. The only question to solve is to which field > belong the columns? Stephan, if you're reading this, do you have > something in mind, like 'editest' output files? > Which brings up another issue: should we fire up the log editor before an import, so people can decide how many fields the log will have and what the fields names will be? > :Stephane Fillod, F8CFE: > :* Interface with text, db3 and SQL databases. > > db3 and SQL db left as an exercice for those who need it. > Sure thing. SQL would be interesting (and really fast I suppose), great for big logs. Logs can reside on a different machine, which is another benefit. But not before our TODO list is empty. > :* Support more than one open log at a time. > > looks like we're already at it. > > :* Adif import and export (also cabrillo). > > yep (cf lex&yacc note). Besides file formats, importing and exporting > would be quite useful. > - Import: in the "Log" menu, there could be "Import as new...", and > also "Import and merge with current...". Both would let the operator > choose the log file format in the file chooser dialog box. Okay, looks good. > - Export: also in the "Log" menu, "Export to new file" with ability to > choose the log file format among supported ones, which is nothing > else but a kind of standard "Save as". > And also an "Export and merge with existing file". This last one is a > lot less easier to implement, and by the way, can be achieved with > previous functions. Guess so. Looks complicated to me, but we can give it a try. > > Could this be done before the final release? The twlog import should come > very soon (it's working already). > > Stupid question (yes, the answer should be in the source :) > In which log is stored a remote QSO (through the msg queueing) ? > Is it in the current log? > Yup, you guessed OK. > > Cheers > Stephane F8CFE > Regards, Joop PA4TU From pa3aba@debian.org Tue Feb 26 15:34:06 2002 Received: from green.nl.gxn.net ([62.100.30.36]) by fencepost.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16foIY-0000ng-00 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 15:34:06 -0500 Received: from gateway.pa4tu.net (hmm-dca-ap01-d03-185.dial.freesurf.nl [62.100.36.185]) by green.nl.gxn.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBD2221BE7; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 21:34:00 +0100 (MET) Received: from [172.16.0.3] (helo=pc3 ident=aba) by gateway.pa4tu.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16fnps-00004Q-00; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 21:04:28 +0100 Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 20:59:17 +0100 From: Joop Stakenborg To: bryn@pcpractice.com Cc: xlog-discussion@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org Subject: Re: [Xlog-discussion] Multiple log quicky (0.6 beta 3) Message-Id: <20020226205917.2c2dc5e6.pa3aba@debian.org> In-Reply-To: <02022516011000.00799@N4VM.com> References: <20020225140234.1f16b32c.pa3aba@debian.org> <02022510012008.21193@N4VM.com> <20020225222901.2bdd8177.pa3aba@debian.org> <02022516011000.00799@N4VM.com> Organization: Debian GNU/Linux X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-debian-linux-gnu) X-Face: yuSM.z0$PasG_!+)P;ugu5P+@#JEocHIpArGcQZ^hcGos8:DBJ-tfTQYWyf`$2r0vfaoo7F|h.;Agl'@x8v]?{#ZLQDqSB:L^6RXGfF_fD+G9$c:)p List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, 25 Feb 2002 16:01:10 -0600 Bryn Joynes wrote: > Hi Joop, > > Thanks for the quick reply. > > A dupe check of the complete log would be fine. You often hear people on the > radio pulling up contacts from years ago. Maybe we could start with a > complete log check, and refine it via the search function for date > interevals. Or you have dupe checking selectable by the user. > I just realized, we can easily add a range for dupe checking, since we use QSO numbers in the log. > BTW, when searching for "N" as the first character of a call, it also finds > any call with "N" in the call. Example, search for "N" finds N4VM and VE1BRN. > Yes, I am using a call to strstr, which was the quickest way to get log searching started. In the future, I want to program the use of wildcards, e.g. n*, n?xyz or *n. This is something for the TODO list. > Something neat that I found, the ability to copy calls from one log to > another. With numerous logs open, select the QSO, change logs and use the > add button. > Isn't that great? I was breaking my head about moving QSO's between logs and then I found the same thing you are describing. Some problems solve themselves.... Next thing would be to move QSO's up and down in a log. > You keep writing, and I will keep testing. I think this is a great logging > program, with a lot of potential. > I hope so, although sometimes I feel we are still far away from the ultimate logging program. Just experienced a few crashes with xlog. > Best Regards > > Bryn > P.S. Bugs in the progarm, would you prefer me to send them to the list or > directly to you? > To the list is fine. Regards, Joop PA4TU From bryn@pcpractice.com Tue Feb 26 16:40:19 2002 Received: from mail07b.vwh1.net ([209.238.9.59]) by fencepost.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16fpKc-00063g-00 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 16:40:18 -0500 Received: from www.pcpractice.com (208.55.21.137) by mail07b.vwh1.net (RS ver 1.0.60s) with SMTP id 048070973 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 16:39:44 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Bryn Joynes Reply-To: bryn@pcpractice.com To: xlog-discussion@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 15:40:46 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <02022615404601.14375@N4VM.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Loop-Detect: 1 Subject: [Xlog-discussion] Mouse problem with right click, and claer all. Sender: xlog-discussion-admin@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org Errors-To: xlog-discussion-admin@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org X-BeenThere: xlog-discussion@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Joop, Open Xlog, then place cursor over Date text window, double right click to bring up "Clear all ctl+Y", select which clears date. After this I no longer have the ability to control any buttons under Xlog. They no longer respond. I can place text in text fields, but I cannot use the Add, UPdate, Delete, Date, GMT, Mode selct, QSL in or Out, or selct a previous QSO from the grid. Is this me or the program. BTW, my error on the 0-59 problem. You where correct, my co-ordinates where not correct. Best Regards Bryn N4VM From bryn@pcpractice.com Tue Feb 26 16:54:21 2002 Received: from mail07b.vwh1.net ([209.238.9.59]) by fencepost.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16fpYC-0007Ja-00 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 16:54:20 -0500 Received: from www.pcpractice.com (208.55.21.137) by mail07b.vwh1.net (RS ver 1.0.60s) with SMTP id 048110228 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 16:53:50 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Bryn Joynes Reply-To: bryn@pcpractice.com To: xlog-discussion@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 15:54:52 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <02022615545202.14375@N4VM.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Loop-Detect: 1 Subject: [Xlog-discussion] Multiple log quicky (0.6 beta 3) Sender: xlog-discussion-admin@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org Errors-To: xlog-discussion-admin@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org X-BeenThere: xlog-discussion@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Joop, I think you are very close to the ultimate logging program. Everything is relative when it comes to what is ultimate. Xlog, with a little more tweaking will be the greatest logging program for Linux. The reason why I think this are: Xlog is not dependent on setting up MySQL or other databases. The data is stored in readable form so we can use command line functions like grep etc.. We could always read the data files into MySQL at a later date. The interface is clean, and simple. It stores the basic information, and is very flexable. It is easily installed with no "./configure", "make" or "make install" errors. The RPM package set itself up very nicely under X. I have looked at a lot of logging programs for Linux. I have also written my own logging and contest programs under Windows VB. I started a logging program under Linux with Kylix but did not get very far. Xlog by far is the logging program of choice for a large number of people I believe. The following along with Stephane's suggestions I think would make Xlog a version 1.0 1) Dupe checking. 2) Open and close logs as needed. 3) Easier clear of entries, such as a clear button. 4) Correct the PageUp PageDn crash 5) Stephane has some suggestions that he needs for French regulations. The above is what I think you only need to do, unless anyone else has any suggestions, or can see a flaw in my logic to have a Xlog 1.0. There are a lot of other things I would love to see, but with the above suggestions implemented, I will start using this as my primary logging program. The things I would love to see, are not going to restrict me from using this program if they are not present. Best Regards as always, Bryn N4VM P.S. Every release you make is the ultimate logging program..... From pa3aba@debian.org Wed Feb 27 16:02:17 2002 Received: from green.nl.gxn.net ([62.100.30.36]) by fencepost.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16gBDN-0001QP-00 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 16:02:17 -0500 Received: from gateway.pa4tu.net (hmm-dca-ap01-d09-036.dial.freesurf.nl [62.100.42.36]) by green.nl.gxn.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4D6421DD5; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 21:34:16 +0100 (MET) Received: from [172.16.0.3] (helo=pc3 ident=aba) by gateway.pa4tu.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16gAsi-000049-00; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 21:40:56 +0100 Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 21:36:02 +0100 From: Joop Stakenborg To: bryn@pcpractice.com Cc: xlog-discussion@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org Subject: Re: [Xlog-discussion] Mouse problem with right click, and claer all. Message-Id: <20020227213602.0d24448c.pa3aba@debian.org> In-Reply-To: <02022615404601.14375@N4VM.com> References: <02022615404601.14375@N4VM.com> Organization: Debian GNU/Linux X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-debian-linux-gnu) X-Face: yuSM.z0$PasG_!+)P;ugu5P+@#JEocHIpArGcQZ^hcGos8:DBJ-tfTQYWyf`$2r0vfaoo7F|h.;Agl'@x8v]?{#ZLQDqSB:L^6RXGfF_fD+G9$c:)p List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Tue, 26 Feb 2002 15:40:46 -0600 Bryn Joynes wrote: > Hi Joop, > > Open Xlog, then place cursor over Date text window, double right click to > bring up "Clear all ctl+Y", select which clears date. After this I no longer > have the ability to control any buttons under Xlog. They no longer respond. > > I can place text in text fields, but I cannot use the Add, UPdate, Delete, > Date, GMT, Mode selct, QSL in or Out, or selct a previous QSO from the grid. > Hi Bryn, I will have a look at this before the weekend. Just fixed a major crash I had (it wasn't xlog, it was the kenwood code in hamlib, commited by me, hi), so I can carry on with xlog again. Will be at home friday the whole day, because I am spending long days doing a labview course at national instruments (this labview stuff is awesome, would be great to interface it with hamlib). Expect a new beta soon. It will fix all your problems. > Is this me or the program. > > BTW, my error on the 0-59 problem. You where correct, my co-ordinates where > not correct. > > Best Regards > > > Bryn > N4VM > Cheers, Joop PA4TU From stephane.fillod@worldonline.fr Thu Feb 28 17:22:44 2002 Received: from postfix2-1.free.fr ([213.228.0.9]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16gYwl-0003SW-00 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 17:22:43 -0500 Received: from charybde.localdomain (rennes-1-a7-98-157.dial.proxad.net [62.147.98.157]) by postfix2-1.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E8931A9 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 23:22:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from fillods by charybde.localdomain with local (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16gYwP-0006Sc-00 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 23:22:21 +0100 Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 23:22:20 +0100 From: Stephane Fillod To: Xlog mailing list Subject: Re: [Xlog-discussion] Multiple log quicky (0.6 beta 3) Message-ID: <20020228222220.GA24773@charybde> Mail-Followup-To: Stephane Fillod , Xlog mailing list References: <20020225140234.1f16b32c.pa3aba@debian.org> <20020226003414.GA464@charybde> <20020226212424.591f360e.pa3aba@debian.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020226212424.591f360e.pa3aba@debian.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i Sender: xlog-discussion-admin@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org Errors-To: xlog-discussion-admin@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org X-BeenThere: xlog-discussion@mail.freesoftware.fsf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline > Which brings up another issue: should we fire up the log editor > before an import, so people can decide how many fields the log > will have and what the fields names will be? Not sure about what's best. * open the log file, find out what fields are available * fire up the log editor, with field not available shaded (not selected), and others selected according to preferences * let the operator make his/her choice * import the data Another possible behaviour: * always keep all the fields that were in the logfile * using the log editor, propose to add new fields. BTW, I've attached a patch that does the following: * moves all the logfile handling files into a logfile/ subdir. * log file support is gathered into the logfile/liblogfile.a archive * updated some C files for new location of logfile/logfile.h * Included also the import/export twlog format support. * POWER and GMTEND added to types.h. Adapt to your need. Joop, would it be possible to keep liblogfile.a free of any gtk dependancy? It would make much more sense. IOW, could you move new_logwindow and logtype out of logfile.[ch] ? Next step is to add ADIF/etc. support to liblogfile.a. Too bad logconv is written in C++ and not using Lex&Yacc. liblogfile could have been shared. If you're QRV tomorrow, let me know what band, I have a Friday off. 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