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Re: [AUCTeX-devel] XEmacs sync with 11.84: almost; some questions remai

From: David Kastrup
Subject: Re: [AUCTeX-devel] XEmacs sync with 11.84: almost; some questions remain
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 11:33:36 +0200
User-agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux)

Uwe Brauer <address@hidden> writes:

> Good news, thanks to the help of Mats Lidell, the XEmacs pkg of
> 11.84 is almost ready.
> I just compared the XEmacs pkg tarball with the tarball as generated
> by the auctex team. There are some differences I would like to comment
>     -  XEmacs pkg generate a tex-site and tex-site.elc. I understand
>        that these files are not longer used, so having them in the
>        distribution should not cause any harm?

For people using old methods of loading AUCTeX, they might result in
confusion and different behavior.

What are the _contents_ of this file?

>     - XEmacs pkg generates, besides auto-autoload.el(c) the files
>     auto-load.el(s) (I don't know why) since these files are empty
>     they should not harm.

That would point to a problem in the process creating the autoloads.
Again, the difference in _contents_ would be important if one wanted
to know whether this can cause additional problems.

>     - The Auctex pkg, generates the files .nosearch in /etc/auctex
>     and /etc/auctex/style. I recall a discussion we had 2 years ago,
>     when these file appeared for 11.55: these files are needed for
>     GNU Emacs but not for XEmacs, since the directories
>     /etc/auctex/style and /etc/auctex are not in the load path.

Sounds reasonable.

> Could somebody comment on that please. I would like to commit the
> package before the end of the week since I am leaving for vacations.

Please note that the idea of the setup in AUCTeX-11.84 is to have
AUCTeX _automatically_ activated (previous versions required (require
'tex-site)).  As opposed to previous versions of AUCTeX, however, it
is now possible to do
(unload-feature 'tex-site)
and this will cause AUCTeX to get unloaded again (this won't work if
you already loaded .tex files).

The idea is to make AUCTeX the default major mode, while providing an
easy copout for people who don't like that.

It is your call whether you want to mimick that behavior.  The reason
for this change was that 90% of users would enjoy using AUCTeX over
the builtin TeX modes, while 90% of users rarely if ever touch the
system defaults.

Enabling AUCTeX by default was only a good option once we had a good
way to let those 10% who don't want it get rid of it reasonably

David Kastrup

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