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Re: ls output changes considered unacceptable
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Jim Meyering |
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Re: ls output changes considered unacceptable |
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Wed, 17 Feb 2016 14:02:24 -0800 |
On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 8:46 AM, Mike Hodson <address@hidden> wrote:
>>On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 6:45 AM, Bernhard Voelker <address@hidden> wrote:
>>> On 02/16/2016 11:50 AM, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
>>> [...] We don't want those single quotes.
>>
>>
>> Who exactly is "we"?
>>
>> I can only speak for myself: I'm don't really care too much about
>> what output format is choosen.
>>
>> Have a nice day,
>> Berny
>>
>
> As part of this community who:
> 1: personally does not not particularly care about how 'ls' output looks
> 2: knows how to change it
> 3: but also knows how many people worldwide do not like such change,
> or may not appreciate the subtleties of the change, or know
> immediately how to change it if their linux distro hasn't already
> 'worked around this usability issue',
>
> I decided to take 10 minutes of my time to correlate a list of just
> who the "we" is:
>
> http://www.eenyhelp.com/bug-813164-fact-dangerous-help-215955262.html
> http://osdir.com/ml/general/2016-02/msg21069.html
> https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/457ptk/ls_default_to_quotingshellescape_for_output_to/
> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/258679/why-is-ls-suddenly-surrounding-items-with-spaces-in-single-quotes
> http://linuxmd.net/forum/komandnaya-stroka-terminal/261-gnu-coreutils-8-25-ne-tak-strashen-kak-kazhetsya
> https://github.com/thestinger/termite/issues/293
> https://www.mail-archive.com/address@hidden/msg1394230.html
> 'revert'
> https://www.mail-archive.com/address@hidden/msg1394231.html
> 'ls -N not a solution'
Thanks for the summary.
However, bear in mind that many many people objected
to systemd, too, to the point of sending death threats to
its author. Many more people recognized that systemd is
great, yet did not send email -- and all major distros
have converted.