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Re: Gtk version getting closer
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Miles Bader |
Subject: |
Re: Gtk version getting closer |
Date: |
Fri, 15 Nov 2002 12:33:16 -0500 |
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Mutt/1.3.28i |
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 08:36:44AM -0800, David Masterson wrote:
> > I like the current method, so I hope any change is completely
> > optional (and certainly I'd like to use a GTK toolkit version of
> > emacs).
>
> Can you be a little more precise as to why you like the current
> method?
Because (1) I like having the tooltips, and (2) I don't find them annoying,
and (3) I _do_ find having to use an explicit command to get tooltips
annoying.
Note that (2) is something that depends a lot on the particular parameters
(popup delay etc): some programs (the enlightenment window manager is a good
example) have tooltips that drive me bonkers, but emacs seems to have done
things right.
> From another of your messages, my guess is that you don't use
> the menu directly, you just use it as documentation.
I `use them as documentation' in the sense that I use them to help me
remember rarely used commands (or commands with particularly wierd bindings).
Of course I don't look at the menu and then hit the key (that would be a bit
silly) -- I just select the menu entry.
The main difference I think is that I use the menus occasionally, rather
than for every command (which I've seen novice users do, even when I'm pretty
sure they know the key-binding; I guess they're just used to it).
> If so, then having the tooltips popup on their own makes sense. However,
> if you were going to use the menu, I would think the tooltip popping up
> might get in the way.
It would be nice to have something besides conjecture.
Has anyone heard any complaints about menu tooltips being annoying?
> Obviously, you could turn off the tooltips all together, but having a
> "What's this?" command might be a little more flexible.
They seem orthogonal, actually...
-Miles
--
Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra. Suddenly it flips over,
pinning you underneath. At night the ice weasels come. --Nietzsche
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, (continued)
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, Richard Stallman, 2002/11/14
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, Miles Bader, 2002/11/14
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, David Masterson, 2002/11/15
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, Eli Zaretskii, 2002/11/15
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, David Masterson, 2002/11/15
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, Eli Zaretskii, 2002/11/15
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, David Masterson, 2002/11/15
- Re: Gtk version getting closer,
Miles Bader <=
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, David Masterson, 2002/11/15
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, Jason Rumney, 2002/11/15
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, David Masterson, 2002/11/15
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, Stefan Monnier, 2002/11/15
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, Robert J. Chassell, 2002/11/15
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, Miles Bader, 2002/11/19
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, Richard Stallman, 2002/11/20
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, Jason Rumney, 2002/11/20
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, Robert J. Chassell, 2002/11/21
- Re: Gtk version getting closer, Richard Stallman, 2002/11/22