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Re: A more modest proposal
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Chong Yidong |
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Re: A more modest proposal |
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Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:33:49 -0400 |
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Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) |
Daniel Colascione <address@hidden> writes:
> easy to tell users, "unlike most programs, Emacs does not use C-c,
> C-x, and C-v for copy and paste: Emacs was old when these bindings
> were new, and they're used for something very different in Emacs. But
> Emacs *does* support using Control-Insert, Shift-Delete, and
> Shift-Insert for copy, cut, and paste. So do most other programs;
> learn to use these keys instead."
This sounds vaguely plausible, but I don't think Control-Insert,
Shift-Delete, and Shift-Insert are very well known at all, nor that
people are going to be enthusiastic about switching to these slower
keybindings.
> Right now, pressing C-c by itself simply displays "C-c -"; C-x is
> similar. Novice users would benefit if this message read something
> like "C-c - <waiting for command - C-h for help>" instead so that they
> notice faster that C-c and C-x are very different in Emacs.
Patch welcome.
> (defun undo-or-suspend-emacs ()
> "Undo if we're in a windowing system, or suspend emacs if we're in a TTY"
> (interactive)
> (setq this-command (if window-system 'undo 'suspend-emacs))
> (call-interactively this-command))
This has the disadvantage that if users learn to rely on C-z to undo,
they will be confused when they try to run Emacs in a terminal and find
that the "undo key" suspends Emacs.
- RE: A more modest proposal (Was: Emacs learning curve), (continued)
- RE: A more modest proposal (Was: Emacs learning curve), Drew Adams, 2010/07/23
- Re: A more modest proposal (Was: Emacs learning curve), Alfred M. Szmidt, 2010/07/23
- Re: A more modest proposal, Miles Bader, 2010/07/23
- Re: A more modest proposal, David Kastrup, 2010/07/23
- Re: A more modest proposal, Miles Bader, 2010/07/23
- Re: A more modest proposal, Alfred M. Szmidt, 2010/07/23
- Re: A more modest proposal, Stefan Monnier, 2010/07/23
- Re: A more modest proposal, Eli Zaretskii, 2010/07/23
- Re: A more modest proposal, Andreas Schwab, 2010/07/23
- Re: A more modest proposal (Was: Emacs learning curve), Stephen Eilert, 2010/07/23
- Re: A more modest proposal,
Chong Yidong <=
- Re: Emacs learning curve, Miles Bader, 2010/07/17
- Omi[cs]iroi! (was: Emacs learning curve), Drew Adams, 2010/07/17
- RE: Omi[cs]iroi! (was: Emacs learning curve), Drew Adams, 2010/07/17
- Re: Omi[cs]iroi! (was: Emacs learning curve), Deniz Dogan, 2010/07/17
- RE: Omi[cs]iroi! (was: Emacs learning curve), Drew Adams, 2010/07/17
- Re: Omi[cs]iroi! (was: Emacs learning curve), Juanma Barranquero, 2010/07/17
- Re: Emacs learning curve, Dirk-Jan C . Binnema, 2010/07/17
- Re: Emacs learning curve, Stefan Monnier, 2010/07/21
- Re: Emacs learning curve, Sebastian Rose, 2010/07/21
- Re: Emacs learning curve, David Kastrup, 2010/07/21