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Re: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated]
From: |
Alan Mackenzie |
Subject: |
Re: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated] |
Date: |
Fri, 20 Jan 2012 07:49:22 +0000 |
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Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) |
Hello, Paul.
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 03:08:26PM -0800, Paul Eggert wrote:
> On 01/19/12 09:22, Drew Adams wrote:
> > `...' is an Emacs doc & UI convention, not simply a "coding standard".
> For user interfaces it would be better if Emacs quoted
> ?like this? or ?like this? (i.e., using directed
> quote marks) in the typical case where these quote marks
> are supported.
Reading your mail across an SSH link with my ISP, I see these quote
marks as an inverted "?". The same in mutt, where I am currently
typing, the same when I load it into Emacs.
> Quoting `like this' is no longer appropriate, since modern displays
> typically don't render ` and ' symmetrically, and it confuses new
> users when Emacs gives unusual interpretations to ` and '.
I think if ` and ' confuse new users, they perhaps should direct their
modest talents to a less demanding editor. ;-) Does anybody really
have trouble with a new style of quoting marks, assuming that they can
actually see them? I never had trouble with, for example, « and »
(apologies if anybody can't see these. They're double angle bracket
quote marks.)
I run Emacs on a Linux tty. It's always been a requirement of Emacs
that it run OK in this environment.
> One way to address this would be to prefer directed
> quote marks within the Emacs source code; the surrounding
> technology should recognize these quotes and do the right
> thing when displaying diagnostics on ASCII-only platforms.
What about displaying Elisp source code on ASCII-only platforms?
> Use of ` for Lisp backquotes, shell backquotes, etc., would
> be undisturbed, of course. The only change would be for
> when we're quoting something in English text.
--
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
- Re: TUTORIAL.de updated, (continued)
Re: TUTORIAL.de updated, Ulrich Mueller, 2012/01/19
- Re: TUTORIAL.de updated, Werner LEMBERG, 2012/01/19
- quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated], Glenn Morris, 2012/01/19
- Re: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated], Eli Zaretskii, 2012/01/20
- Re: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated],
Alan Mackenzie <=
- Re: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated], Paul Eggert, 2012/01/20
- Re: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated], Eli Zaretskii, 2012/01/20
- Re: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated], Paul Eggert, 2012/01/20
- Re: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated], Alan Mackenzie, 2012/01/21
- Re: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated], Eli Zaretskii, 2012/01/21
- Re: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated], Alan Mackenzie, 2012/01/21
- Re: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated], Eli Zaretskii, 2012/01/21
- Re: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated], Andreas Schwab, 2012/01/21
- Re: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated], David De La Harpe Golden, 2012/01/21
- Re: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated], David De La Harpe Golden, 2012/01/21