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Re: Network security manager
From: |
Ted Zlatanov |
Subject: |
Re: Network security manager |
Date: |
Wed, 19 Nov 2014 06:46:47 -0500 |
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Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) |
On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 12:23:19 +0100 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <address@hidden>
wrote:
LMI> Ted Zlatanov <address@hidden> writes:
>> I mean that EWW's visual indicators of identity and trust should be
>> global. Then you don't interrupt the user (they get cranky!) but show
>> them a visual indicator that something requires their attention. I can't
>> think of a better place that works in graphical and text modes and has
>> the precedent of embedded infobar-style buttons than the modeline.
LMI> Oh, I see. I misunderstood you completely; sorry. >"?
LMI> That does sound attractive... eww would put an icon into the mode line,
LMI> and then the user could click it to answer the query. A kind of "an
LMI> action is needed" thing.
Yes! I don't know how it could work well in text mode, though.
>> Furthermore, I think it would make sense to use the same indicators for
>> GnuTLS connections in general (whatever NSM handles), not just EWW. I
>> couldn't find UI recommendations for mail clients, but from experience
>> with a few they treat encryption problems as a high-priority dialog and
>> interrupt the user experience until you say "OK, trust XYZ." Which is,
>> again, not ideal for Emacs so we should find a nicer way to indicate
>> problems without interrupting.
LMI> The other connections things are usually done interactively, so just
LMI> asking the user directly is more user-friendly.
I'm kind of 50-50 on this; I see your point but also think it looks
weird as a user experience, especially that you can keep typing and
accidentally answer "always". Long-term we know we'll have all the
connections on background threads eventualy, so it's probably good to
handle that case consistently across all usage modes.
Ted
- Re: Network security manager, (continued)
- Re: Network security manager, Daniel Colascione, 2014/11/18
- Re: Network security manager, Stefan Monnier, 2014/11/18
- Re: Network security manager, Eli Zaretskii, 2014/11/18
- Re: Network security manager, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen, 2014/11/18
- Re: Network security manager, Ted Zlatanov, 2014/11/18
- Re: Network security manager, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen, 2014/11/19
- Re: Network security manager, Ted Zlatanov, 2014/11/19
- Re: Network security manager, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen, 2014/11/19
- Re: Network security manager,
Ted Zlatanov <=
- Re: Network security manager, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen, 2014/11/19
- Re: Network security manager, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen, 2014/11/19
- Re: Network security manager, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen, 2014/11/18
- Re: Network security manager, Stefan Monnier, 2014/11/18
- Re: Network security manager, Eli Zaretskii, 2014/11/18
- Re: Network security manager, Stefan Monnier, 2014/11/19
- Re: Network security manager, Ted Zlatanov, 2014/11/19
- Re: Network security manager, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen, 2014/11/19
- Re: Network security manager, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen, 2014/11/19
- Re: Network security manager, Ted Zlatanov, 2014/11/19