Re: "modern" colors Re: Changes for emacs 28

[Gregory Heytings]

> I don’t know if (and don’t think that--, really) you mean it but your 
> replies come off as rather agressive.

That was not my intention.  I've just reread what I wrote, and I don't see 
what you find "rather agressive".  Though I admit that I was irritated by 
your "Someone who can't spare more than three minutes to research a tool 
that they may end up using for a life time for the majority of their 
workday is IMHO not a kind of user we should strive to support."

> > > And it’s solved as easily as M-x load-theme RET modus-vivendi RET post 
> > > Emacs 28 (or some point-release of 27 maybe?), or today with a simple 
> > > package install.
>
> > Do you realize that what you write amounts to "In software A, B, C and 
> > D, to get what you want, click on this button.  In software E, to get 
> > what you want, it's very easy, just type "Zk1v31!*".  For them it's 
> > almost like a secret keystroke for an easter egg in a game.  How is a 
> > new user supposed to know that they should type M-x load-theme (or M-x 
> > customize-themes)? There is not even a menu entry for this (AFAICS).
>
> I don’t realise such thing.  What I realise is, when I open VS Code, I 
> don’t see an option to change the theme in the menus. Instead, I have to 
> find preferences (or learn that C-, opens it), notice that it’s 
> searchable, search for ‘theme’ (and also: know that it’s theme, not 
> colourcheme or similar), and select a theme.  I don’t see how that’s 
> easier, especially when we have in the menu bar "Options > Customize 
> Emacs > Custom Themes", and M-x customize-themes RET.  It’s the same 
> thing, rendered differently.  And in this particular instance Emacs is 
> better at it already.

Please look again.  When you open VS Code for the first time, you have a 
big "Welcome" tab opened.  It contains four sections.  One of them is 
"Customize", and has three big buttons.  The third one is "Color theme".

Another section is "Help", with pointers to a cheatsheet, introductory 
videos, and so forth.

This "Welcome" tab will be shown every time you start VS Code, until you 
untick "Show welcome page on startup".

The proposal I sent on this list yesterday is to do something like this 
for Emacs.