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Re: Changes for emacs 28
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tomas |
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Re: Changes for emacs 28 |
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Tue, 15 Sep 2020 10:12:28 +0200 |
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On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 11:45:27AM -0700, chad wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 13, 2020 at 3:31 AM <tomas@tuxteam.de> wrote:
>
> > But the argument "it's more popular, so it must be better" is too naive, I
> > think.
[...]
> try emacs but go (back) to VSCode, because ...". Usually, that sentence
> ends in some form of "it's much easier/more intuitive to get started" or
> "it's quick/easy/obvious how to get it to 'it just-works'".
>
> In other words, the popularity is a symptom, not a cause.
This is exactly the point I was putting in question: My
take is that popularity is part of a giant feedback loop,
so it's *both*, a symptom and a cause. And a (non-negligible)
set of forces driving that feedback loop are the marketing
departments of big corps [1]. They wouldn't be doing their
jobs if it weren't so.
Failing to see this leads to this over-eager "how can we
change Emacs to make it more popular" thing, instead of
to a more balanced view, where potential changes are
judged against a more complete set of principles and
goals (newcomer friendliness surely being one of them!).
[...]
Cheers
[1] Whose goals and values don't always align with ours,
to put it politely.
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